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I own both, 2022 models. I'm 62, 50+ years of riding and racing. I've own many larger, faster and heavier bikes. I love them both for many of the same reasons you spoke of. I don't see anything replacing either of them in the near future. The low maintenance and Honda reliability are key to their appeal for me. Uuuuh, thank you !
@DorkintheRoad OH and I love your videos. You are definitely my internet riding buddy. I think your views, opinions and experiences reflect more of the real everyday man's life. Keep up the good work my brother !
At 51 years young, the Rally is by far the most fun bike I’ve ever owned! Maybe with the exception of my Elsinore 50 that my dad bought for me when I was just 9 years old. I’ve experienced lots of Hondaness growing up.
I also have both and love them. Had the 500x in the rain yesterday and taking my 300l out today to look for model airplane wood. Great video. Have fun.
Love your review! So positive and down to earth! It's actually refreshing to listen to someone who doesn't just cruelly attack a bike because it's not that person's cup of tea.
This is a solid comparison, the 50/51 rule is a solid way to make a selection. I know I said I was working on a WR450, but I ended up getting a Triumph Tiger 1050. Figuring I'll be on pavement way more than dirt I elected to go that route. We went up to Detroit Lake, then looped back through Brittenbush into Estacada. Was hot as balls but a very epic loop.
I returned to riding two years ago. Wanted to go with the Rally, but could not find one and ended up buying a CB500X and a CRF300L. Now I can confirm everything you said. Both bikes are very friendly, easy to ride, no headaches of any kind. My advice to everybody considering these Hondas would be to have them both. 😁 However, if you must pick only one, let me state the obvious, it is all about road vs. off-road and forget about anything else.If you are mainly on paved roads, and I mean like 80/20, go with CB500X and don't look back.. It is far superior, the engine has almost double the power, front brakes are way better, it is smooth, it is more comfortable, etc.. Simply, CB500X is a lot more of a motorcycle then CRF300L but only slightly more expensive. Otherwise, pick 300L because it is like 125 pounds lighter and weight matters when going off-road.
Nice job on your comparison discussion as always! I'm excited about the new Honda SCL500. I rode a CL305 back in 1970 and that was a fun, easy to ride bike. Of course, I won't miss the drum brakes that were standard on all those "old-time" Hondas.
I have a 300 Rally and just got back from a trip from Denver CO to Phoenix CO and back. Hit the MOAB UT section of the BDR and on the way back hit Mexican hat and the Valley of the Gods. With the longest amount of Highway driving lasting 8 hours not accounting for traffic in one day. There was times where you really wished you could stay at a constant 80 mph up hills and dealing with some UT highways having 80Mph speed limits, But Ultimately didn't matter that much. There were plenty of cars and trucks that where going 70-75Mph or slower that I never was worried that I was going too slow. I could for the most part keep up and go faster than traffic. Things to keep in mind though is that I have the 550 performance ECU tune. I cant speak on how much that helps because I got the bike used with the tune already installed from an older gentlemen that never took the bike on the highway so he didn't know if it helped much either. I love the bike I feel confident I can take it anywhere in the CO mountains. A rear suspension upgrade is defiantly worth it, I changed out the stock for a Ohlins rear Shock and the ride completely changed.
I've put 13, 000km on my 2022 Honda CB500X and I've ridden it both on and off road, it is GREAT. That being said, it is my first motorcycle, I started riding with this bike so I'm as fresh as they come. The CB500X has almost never limited what I was trying to do with, I been on a road trip with it and was comfortable most of the way (had to stand every now and then to get some wind in the sail), I've taken it off road several times as well and the only time I had to turn back was when I was pushing MYSELF further than what I was ready for (some steep quad trail with dinosaur egg sized rocks come to mind). It's capable and it's a lot of fun :P
I have 23’ 500x and put 700 miles on it. I’ve riding in places that I shouldn’t and on stock tires. If you ride carefully and slow down you can get through a lot of terrains. I went up 5700 ft elevation on cliff side gravel rocks dirt road and no problem. Don’t underestimate the 500x
What's the brand of the stock? It used to be Bridgestone T32 until 2018 which was sad off-road. I believe they switched the tire since 2019 into something better.
I've always seen X's with some crappy Dunlops that suck on everything other then on sand. There is not many off road choices for the tire sizes that X uses but, it is really street bike so better get some good street tires.
That's the point, it's an adventure bike that can do some rougher terrain as needed , but not as fast offroad because it has so many on road capabilities .
It’s was nice to meet you today at Home Depot! I’ll keep watching and supporting you because you always have such awesome information, insight and great rides!
I ride a 2022 CRF300 Rally and I love it. Just a fun bike to ride on and off road. Especially off road, its natural habitat. I did the MABDR this summer from Montréal and back, around 4000 miles. Had a blast with it. Nothing stops this machine. Great on the trails and super fun on pavement with twisties. Also kept up with traffic on highways and it was more comfortable than I expected to be. Fully pact with my camping gear, I really enjoyed my trip. What an adventure! I plan to reach Colorado in the summer of 2024 and do the COBDR. The maintenance intervals is what sold me. 8000 miles between oil changes. I could go from Montréal to Colorado and back and than some, without an oil change. That's awesome! Your prior videos on the Rally helped me choose this great bike. Thank you Ben!
I had a CB500F, which is the same as the X outside of (I think) clearance and trim, for a few years and loved it. Super fun and friendly engine and I taught several people enough of the basics with it to get them into an intermediate motorcycle endorsement class. Highly recommend the CB line for new folks, or anyone really.
Just getting into adventure riding thanks to folks like you. Heading west on my first trip this coming weekend on my GS Adventure. I started researching the 300L Rally after seeing Noraly (Itchyboots) take hers all over the world and have been wanting it as a first dual sport ever since. I'd love to strap one to the back of my lifted GX470 Overlanding rig as I think that would make a great adventure combo. Anyway, thanks for another great video and continued inspiration!
I can recommend getting both. My NX500 is my daily and the CRF is the bike I'll truck to the trails and one day soon, do a BDR on. Hard luggage on NX, Soft on CRF. My only small complaint is that 2up riding on MX makes me wish I got the transalp, but overall I'm happy.
I see your a " Swanky Cat " Patron , I thought that was cool. Thanks for the content It is usually always relevant to me. Can't be 100% in real life but your content is way over 90% for me. Thanks Ben.
I am lucky to have both and use the 300 l nearly exclusively off-road here in Spain.I can not see my 65 year old body lifting the 500 x more than twice a day 😂If I had to let one go it would be the 500 though.
Honestly 90% of riders should just go with the 300L.. Once Honda actually comes out with a 400-450 true dual sport with long service intervals that’s a different story.
It's pretty cool that they offer a full kit...but it's so expensive I think it'd be more cost effective to just get a different bike unless you just really LOVE the 500X
Thank you Dork 👏🏻 I love the video. I looked the CB500X for 2 years and I ended up with the 300L that I use most weekends to explore the curvy forest roads and doing some off-road too. After a couple of months I got a new 500x and I used as a street bike. The 300L feels like a goat and the 500x feels great. They both are reliable! I need a good tire recommendation 80/20 for the 500x.
Outstanding review, Exactly the information I was looking for and straight to the point with it. The description of the CB500x matched my experience up to this point as well.
Very helpful. Still love my ‘16 Triumph Tiger 800, but there are days and easy middleweight bike in the 450-600cc range excite me, and I admit I am intrigued by the CB500X and come close to test riding. But…not quite yet! Dealers, ugh…
I've had my 500x since March of 21, and recently got a drz400 last October.. I don't even ride the 500x anymore and it's up for sale. That's because I don't do highway and everything for me is close by. But I can't imagine taking the 500x on any kind of real trails, from my experience with it it's way too low to the ground and needs different tires obviously. Great road bike but I'd rather have something different for just on road, so I'm trying to sell it.
As a teenager in the mid to late 80s I had a CR 250, then a CR 500. I think back then they only came as two-strokes, certainly both mine were. Both were awesome, but I have especially good memories of fanging it through the forestry trails next to our farm on that 500 like I'd stolen it, holding on for dear life and doing crazy stuff like only a bullet-proof 17 year old male thinks they can get away with. I didn't end up dead, so I guess I was at least partially right. To me, calling a CR "friendly" just doesn't compute. Mine were motorcross and enduro slaying beasts! I know, I'm stuck in a "good old days" two-stroke big-bore 80s time-warp, but it kinda saddens me to see the CR tamed like it is in this modern version. I've been away from off road bikes for a long time - do they still make a two-stroke CR? Are they still beasts?
Not often I’ll chime in to a bike review but I feel strongly about this one. I’m 5’9” tall and average build. I’m currently selling my 500x because in my opinion it is terrible on the highway compared to the 300 rally. At 70mph it feels like I’m hurting the engine and the vibrations are tiring. The seat and pegs position is very wrong! Never known a more painful seat. The extra weight is helpful on windy days and the little bit more power is nice but in every other way the 300 rally wins on and off road for me.
@@alcro38 what you said is really interesting. I would love to get a 300l even though I would ride gravel so seldom (Babys at home) and anyways here in Switzerland are the most illegal. Because of riding my bike twice a week to work, around 25 Km on highway each way, I thought i must choose the NX500. It seems logical to buy the 500 instead of the 300 but I would love to practice off road skills anytime I can and the 500 is not really helpful but because of riding the most of the time highway I thought I would suffer with the 300 I have to wait 2 months before purchasing a new bike between those two but I am frustrated in a way because my heart goes for the 300 and my brain for the 500 But how you commented I am more insecure right now if I was thinking wrong about the 500
@ the 300 is just more comfortable and relaxed and the 500 uncomfortable and tiring to ride over distance. It’s illegal too here in Scotland to just play off road but if you are sensible with the area and respectful it’s generally ok. The 300’s only weak point is the suspension. It is sold cheaper because it’s set up soft from factory. It can feel a touch unsteady in crosswinds but stronger springs will vastly improve the handling. I was about to sell my 300 rally but kept it and also bought a triumph tiger 800xc for longer road trips. Avoid the 500!
I really wish I could afford both , it’s always nice to have options. I can’t even find a dealer around here that has either one in the showroom to even swing a leg over it . However there is a Kawasaki KLX300 available and so I am thinking about buying it. IDK 🤷♂️ I like the Honda brand though and the CRF300L seems to have some better features than the KLX300 ( buttery smooth transmission, slipper clutch, ABS ) but the KLX has a better suspension from what I’ve been hearing. The CRF300L is around $800 cheaper , so that money could be used to upgrade the fork springs and rear suspension and accessorize the bike to make it even better than the KLX . And lastly as you stated, there’s much better aftermarket support for the Honda and that’s a huge plus for most folks who take pride in ownership and like to customize their bikes. Just trying to weigh in my options and looking for feedback . Thanks for the great content here . Edit : and the Honda has a better instrumentation panel than the Kawasaki
Three years ago I bought a Honda CMX500 Rebel as my first bike and I'm really happy with it. But now I discovered motorcycle camping is what I like most and a Rebel is not very comfortable offroad. I'm thinking about the Honda CRF300 or the Yamaha Tenere as my next bike but it's hard to make the choice. Maybe I just wait for next year and see which one is my favorite when the next riding season start..
I wish Honda would make a cb660x - with more clearance, better suspension, and some ride modes compared to the CB500X... In other words, an Aprilia Tuareg 660 but with a Honda nameplate and reliability!
My 2019 500x’s have Rally Raid suspension and a high front fender. Makes it much more capable off road! Bulletproof machine. The 500x can be made much more offroad capable and still be highway capable. The 300L will always suffer on highway due to lack of power. The only better ADV bike for me above a Rally Raided 500x may be the Tuareg 660. ;).
Rally Raid is about to release their level 2 suspension upgrade for the 2022/2023 CB500X, which will definitely be an improvement over the stock suspension. I wonder, if you reached out to them, if they would ship you a level 2 suspension upgrade to review for your 2019 CB500X. Seems like a win-win! Come on Rally Raid, get the Dork in the Road a better suspension for his CB500X!
I am an old guy so I can share some old guy thoughts: Get both ;-) I am fortunate to be have a couple of bikes. It is mostly because road touring and off-pavement are different enough during long duration rides or events that they each have a sweet spot. I have a R1250GSA for the 5-9 day mostly road and fire trail trips. I have an 890 Adventure (S for street and short) for more mixed terrain long distance activities. I have a CRF300LS (for short folks) when I will be mostly off-pavement and have a good chance of needing to be able to be able to pickup the bike. I told you that it was an old guy comment ;-) Great video
Its funny, because all i see is very experienced and capable riders (like yourselves) on Honda Rally's on CB 500 X 's while everyones saying they re beginners bikes, excellent video though👍
Beginner bike is generally saying it's easy to ride and handle while being fun and enjoyable. Basically, it's the bike the experienced tried left and went back to because it's the best right?
The only problem i have with beginner friendly bikes for beginners and more seasoned riders is all the added weight. The lower power is fine , the weaker suspension its ok for beginners but the weight is really just more tiring.
The rally is in my short list, have a big, heavy GS now and just isnt what I need or want at this point. Up till now, crf/klx toss up. BUTTTTT.... along comes a 400x triumph scrambler. Kind of a compromise between the rally and the 500x. Just curious, are you like me, waiting for the verdict on the scrambler? I love the retro, tics a lot of boxes but waiting to see reviews and US price. I know you had some fun on the bigger scramblers, what are your thoughts on the 400x?
500X is a road bike in dirt dressing 300 Rally is a dirt bike in road dressing Both are good for their price point, and which one is better depends on what terrain you want to use them for most of the time They also need a little more modification to be optimal, but nothing major
I would like to get people's opinion on which bike I should go for. I am planning a 2-month road trip through Norway and Finland on the TET but after that I want to use the bike for commuting and round town riding with the occasional off-road trip. My current thoughts are the 500x with some off-road upgrades
Oh and btw the best thing about both these bikes is the lack of tech. No rider modes or traction control BS. Love it. K.I.S.S. Ups the reliability factor.
Random question. As a fellow big dude, I've started messing with preload on my 500x. Before I have to upgrade to Ohlins, etc. What if anything have you done to the x to help highway manners in particular. With a small amount of luggage (haven't maxed the bike out) my front wheel feels like it's off the ground at highway speeds around traffic. Very very light feel overall at speed. Love the content. Now to dig into your X playlist.
I have cb500x and it's amazing bike, very easy to ride, comfortable, only 3l/100km of fuel consumption. And its also so good in offroad rides. And don't listen people who say it have not enough power.
That had to be the North Bend bridge I saw in the video. All the more reason I want to ask... since I'm looking for a dual-sport bike that can also conquer some sand dunes with a tire swap in the staging area. I want a lighter beginner bike but enough power to handle some sand riding. I don't expect to rip up and down steep dunes, but I want some capability for less intense hills. I'm assuming the 300l would be too weak?
Had my Rally Raided X, for just over 5 years, 10 countries and 82,000 miles. Ridden the TAT, parts of the TET, US, Canada and chunks of Europe, plus way too many work miles. (aka commuting, ugh...). BUT, keep looking at the 300 Rally as a 2nd bike for getting the dirt without the X weight. Convince me i need two bikes...
Great video. Would like to see a video about the 690 KTM/701 Husky really considering selling my klx300 to get one. Or I might get a Tenere 700 KLX300 is just too slow on the road for me. I’ve been fearful of a taller bike but after much research it seems it’s definitely better to increase your skills than decrease your bike.
I’m 70 years old now, & my skills/prowess peaked about half my life- ago! I briefly had -(& enjoyed) an XR 650l, about 10 years ago. I’m not interested anymore in a taller bike with the taller 1st & 2nd (etc) gears. I’ve found that taller bikes are already falling- before I had a good foot-purchase! I’m ‘capping’ my interest at 300CC’s; (however, my older brother’s KTM 390 could possibly be an exception)..?!
for my first Bike, I went for a V-Strom 250SX. I have found where it lacks, and decided that it needs twice the engine, switchable ABS (as it's nearly caused catastrophe by refusing to slow the bike at all, when I could have skidded to a stop if I was able to turn it off) and it also really needs Hazard lights (emergency flashers for the Yanks) and what does the Honda CB500X have that the Suzuki needs? probably all of the above. and it's not Chinese... I've learned that it's better to spend twice as much, than to spend twice. I'm not sold on the CF Moto yet... I'll give it 5 years and see if they hold up! But at this stage, I wish I knew about the CB500X when I was bike hunting!
I have a 54 year old buddy that had experience riding for years.He shopped for a bike that gets great MPG that he can use for commuting to work 15 min away via HWY and offroad use. Hes not a prior dirt bike champ or anything. If hes done any off road its been light. Anyway he bought the CRF300l.... And it perplexed the crap out of me. I know people love it and it IS a Honda but he doesnt even off road that much and hes having to high rev like crazy on the hwy Im sure. It just seems like such a crazy move maybe someone can tell me Im wrwong
Hey dork👋 do you think you could bring us a review of the bmw-g310gs? Im trying to figure out which small to mid size bike is right for me. I think a lot of people would appreciate your opinion on it
I love my 300 rally. But if honda took the CRF450RL, traded the motor out for the 500 and put on rally trim, it would be my unicorn. Light, high power to weight ratio, low vibration, great suspension, good fuel economy, and low maintenance. I'm tempted just to make it happen myself! Lol
Thanks! 50/50 for the CB500x, on which tyres ? In europe it seems no open offroad profile can be found in the size 160/60r 17… I am very pleased with mitas e07, some tyre like that one in the correct size, do you have an idea?
Thanks for the video, super useful. Isn't weight also a factor? I want to do a long silk road trip of over 15,000km, with a lot of highways, but also a lot of very difficult terrain in the mountains with snow/mud/sand. Buuuuut - I'm 250lbs and I will have 60-70lbs of luggage. Which puts me at the limit of the CRF300 :( Do you think it can be an issue?
If you can not make up your mind between the two, get the KTM 390 Adventure, Much better off road than the BC500X and much better on the highway than the CRF300 Rally. Had all three and all are great bikes. I did find the CRF300 L a bit to tall for me, when trying to get on and off on uneven ground. Now riding the CB500X and the Honda Trail125. and most of the time for short rids under 100 km I will take the Trail125 a great utility bike can carry a lot of weight on the rear rack That is one thing I do not like about the CB500X is the weight capacity on the rear rack is way to low. All heavy loads have to go in the side boxes. I did have the CRF 300L and found the gas tank was way to small, ( come on Honda were do you find gas out on the trail???) Looking forward to the CRF300 LS coming to Canada but hopping they will also come with the same gas tank as the Rally dose.
Dumb question, as I’m new to off roading: how does one find off roads to ride on? Is there a site people use? Like if someone’s riding from Mexico to Canada, how do you find where to travel that isn’t the highway? Thanks.
I would be on road more than my 50% of the time but I want to know if the CRF300 rally fit better than the cb500x in heavy heavy heavy traffic Where I live there is traffic everyday even in highways so I would like to know your opinion Thanks for the help
I have a CB500X 2020 and have ridden v-stroms 650 a couple of times (1st gen 2005 and 3rd gen 2017 models). The v-strom is more powerful, definitely better on the highway and vibrates less. Suzuki's latest 650 engine is the best engine I've ever tried in my life! But the CB is also pretty comfortable up to 120 km/h. The riding position is more upright on the CB, while the v-strom feels more like a sport-tourer. The CB feels much lighter (17 kg lighter and has much lower center of gravity), more fun to ride on the backroads (subjective) and I do take mine off-road after I've done the suspension upgrade on it (Hyperpro - the same travel but progressive, stiffer and better damping).
This is a serious question and I'm not trying to be sarcastic. From whom can you buy off road pants that fit? It seems that most off road pants are made to fit teens.
love that the bleeping of dipshit now sounds like you said dick in the video. it made me chuckle. I prefer the rally over the X. It looks so much tougher.
If you want comfort a smoothness of twin cylinder combined with off-road capabilities of dual sport bikes like CRF300LR, then CB500X is NOT the way to go even for beginner. There are bikes that are good at both. Aprilia Tuareg 660, KTM 790 Adv-R, a bit tall Yamaha Tenere 700, and some other. However, each of these good bikes costs twice as CRF300L. On the other side, these bikes are ready from factory, while you have to pour money on CRF300L to get good suspension, seat, durable hand guards, skid plate... so it's not that cheap in the end.
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Not sure if I missed it or cant find it, but I didnt see a review on this versus your DRZ
I own both, 2022 models. I'm 62, 50+ years of riding and racing. I've own many larger, faster and heavier bikes. I love them both for many of the same reasons you spoke of. I don't see anything replacing either of them in the near future. The low maintenance and Honda reliability are key to their appeal for me. Uuuuh, thank you !
You, sir, are a very wise man.
@DorkintheRoad OH and I love your videos. You are definitely my internet riding buddy. I think your views, opinions and experiences reflect more of the real everyday man's life. Keep up the good work my brother !
@tammymisorski6272 I think the 500X would be the much better commuter. But either would do.
Yes sir.., i also own both now..,hv own many larger bikes also and back to my cbx now 😂
If you had to sell one of the two, which would you sell first?
I already have a 250l and an Africa twin, still want a 500x . Its an illness
I've been riding for decades exclusively on beginner friendly bikes - I still consider my self a beginner :)
Itchy Boots owns both, she took the CB500X to Norway, Sweden and Iceland. The CB500X is her daily, while the Rally is her world travel bike.
At 51 years young, the Rally is by far the most fun bike I’ve ever owned! Maybe with the exception of my Elsinore 50 that my dad bought for me when I was just 9 years old. I’ve experienced lots of Hondaness growing up.
I also have both and love them. Had the 500x in the rain yesterday and taking my 300l out today to look for model airplane wood. Great video. Have fun.
I'm very pleasantly surprised at how many people are saying they also have both. That's super cool.
Love your review! So positive and down to earth! It's actually refreshing to listen to someone who doesn't just cruelly attack a bike because it's not that person's cup of tea.
This is a solid comparison, the 50/51 rule is a solid way to make a selection. I know I said I was working on a WR450, but I ended up getting a Triumph Tiger 1050. Figuring I'll be on pavement way more than dirt I elected to go that route. We went up to Detroit Lake, then looped back through Brittenbush into Estacada. Was hot as balls but a very epic loop.
I returned to riding two years ago. Wanted to go with the Rally, but could not find one and ended up buying a CB500X and a CRF300L. Now I can confirm everything you said.
Both bikes are very friendly, easy to ride, no headaches of any kind.
My advice to everybody considering these Hondas would be to have them both. 😁
However, if you must pick only one, let me state the obvious, it is all about road vs. off-road and forget about anything else.If you are mainly on paved roads, and I mean like 80/20, go with CB500X and don't look back.. It is far superior, the engine has almost double the power, front brakes are way better, it is smooth, it is more comfortable, etc.. Simply, CB500X is a lot more of a motorcycle then CRF300L but only slightly more expensive.
Otherwise, pick 300L because it is like 125 pounds lighter and weight matters when going off-road.
Nice job on your comparison discussion as always! I'm excited about the new Honda SCL500. I rode a CL305 back in 1970 and that was a fun, easy to ride bike. Of course, I won't miss the drum brakes that were standard on all those "old-time" Hondas.
I have a 300 Rally and just got back from a trip from Denver CO to Phoenix CO and back. Hit the MOAB UT section of the BDR and on the way back hit Mexican hat and the Valley of the Gods. With the longest amount of Highway driving lasting 8 hours not accounting for traffic in one day. There was times where you really wished you could stay at a constant 80 mph up hills and dealing with some UT highways having 80Mph speed limits, But Ultimately didn't matter that much. There were plenty of cars and trucks that where going 70-75Mph or slower that I never was worried that I was going too slow. I could for the most part keep up and go faster than traffic. Things to keep in mind though is that I have the 550 performance ECU tune. I cant speak on how much that helps because I got the bike used with the tune already installed from an older gentlemen that never took the bike on the highway so he didn't know if it helped much either. I love the bike I feel confident I can take it anywhere in the CO mountains. A rear suspension upgrade is defiantly worth it, I changed out the stock for a Ohlins rear Shock and the ride completely changed.
I've put 13, 000km on my 2022 Honda CB500X and I've ridden it both on and off road, it is GREAT. That being said, it is my first motorcycle, I started riding with this bike so I'm as fresh as they come. The CB500X has almost never limited what I was trying to do with, I been on a road trip with it and was comfortable most of the way (had to stand every now and then to get some wind in the sail), I've taken it off road several times as well and the only time I had to turn back was when I was pushing MYSELF further than what I was ready for (some steep quad trail with dinosaur egg sized rocks come to mind). It's capable and it's a lot of fun :P
I have 23’ 500x and put 700 miles on it. I’ve riding in places that I shouldn’t and on stock tires. If you ride carefully and slow down you can get through a lot of terrains. I went up 5700 ft elevation on cliff side gravel rocks dirt road and no problem. Don’t underestimate the 500x
What's the brand of the stock? It used to be Bridgestone T32 until 2018 which was sad off-road. I believe they switched the tire since 2019 into something better.
I've always seen X's with some crappy Dunlops that suck on everything other then on sand. There is not many off road choices for the tire sizes that X uses but, it is really street bike so better get some good street tires.
That's the point, it's an adventure bike that can do some rougher terrain as needed , but not as fast offroad because it has so many on road capabilities .
@@oknevals There are many 50/50 tyres, great choices for front 110/80-19 and rear 150/70-17
@@jutjub22 500x still uses rear 160/60-17 as far as I know. They only changed front tire from 17" to 19".
It’s was nice to meet you today at Home Depot! I’ll keep watching and supporting you because you always have such awesome information, insight and great rides!
I ride a 2022 CRF300 Rally and I love it. Just a fun bike to ride on and off road. Especially off road, its natural habitat. I did the MABDR this summer from Montréal and back, around 4000 miles. Had a blast with it. Nothing stops this machine. Great on the trails and super fun on pavement with twisties. Also kept up with traffic on highways and it was more comfortable than I expected to be. Fully pact with my camping gear, I really enjoyed my trip. What an adventure! I plan to reach Colorado in the summer of 2024 and do the COBDR. The maintenance intervals is what sold me. 8000 miles between oil changes. I could go from Montréal to Colorado and back and than some, without an oil change. That's awesome! Your prior videos on the Rally helped me choose this great bike. Thank you Ben!
Change your oil every 2k miles if you are riding in the dirt, 5k if you are only on the street.
Love my Rally and I’ve been looking at adding 500 to the stable great review. 🤟😎
Nice video, love my cb500x. Went from wv to Columbus Ohio round trip last Saturday. Deciding between the tw200 and the rally for my next bike.
I had a CB500F, which is the same as the X outside of (I think) clearance and trim, for a few years and loved it. Super fun and friendly engine and I taught several people enough of the basics with it to get them into an intermediate motorcycle endorsement class. Highly recommend the CB line for new folks, or anyone really.
My very first bike was a CB500F. I very much agree with you.
@@DorkintheRoad I remember that! I was still on my F back then and it was how I found your channel lol
Just getting into adventure riding thanks to folks like you. Heading west on my first trip this coming weekend on my GS Adventure. I started researching the 300L Rally after seeing Noraly (Itchyboots) take hers all over the world and have been wanting it as a first dual sport ever since. I'd love to strap one to the back of my lifted GX470 Overlanding rig as I think that would make a great adventure combo. Anyway, thanks for another great video and continued inspiration!
I can recommend getting both. My NX500 is my daily and the CRF is the bike I'll truck to the trails and one day soon, do a BDR on. Hard luggage on NX, Soft on CRF. My only small complaint is that 2up riding on MX makes me wish I got the transalp, but overall I'm happy.
I see your a " Swanky Cat " Patron , I thought that was cool. Thanks for the content It is usually always relevant to me. Can't be 100% in real life but your content is way over 90% for me. Thanks Ben.
I have to support the other Bens out there on TH-cam! 😉
I am lucky to have both and use the 300 l nearly exclusively off-road here in Spain.I can not see my 65 year old body lifting the 500 x more than twice a day 😂If I had to let one go it would be the 500 though.
I have always wanted to do off-roading in Spain!! Was near Sevilla this summer but was told not allowed off-road due to risk of wildfires and the heat
Excellent review and comparison for those looking at these models👍. You really have mastered these buying guide episodes.
Well that's a very nice compliment. Thank you.
Honestly 90% of riders should just go with the 300L.. Once Honda actually comes out with a 400-450 true dual sport with long service intervals that’s a different story.
I’m interested in the CFmoto 450 and Himalayan 450 vs CB500x
Great little machines the 300 Rally. Very happy with mine, and a joy when adventure riding. Cheers for the upload 👍
Love my new 500x! I do more commuting than offroad. I’d love to see it build up with all the rally raid gear!
It's pretty cool that they offer a full kit...but it's so expensive I think it'd be more cost effective to just get a different bike unless you just really LOVE the 500X
@@DorkintheRoad Yeah, like, go for Transalp? That with suspension upgrade for us that have survival reserve around our waist for 40 pounds?
I love you videos reviewing bikes or comparing them. They are always spot on and you give great honest information.
Thank you Dork 👏🏻 I love the video. I looked the CB500X for 2 years and I ended up with the 300L that I use most weekends to explore the curvy forest roads and doing some off-road too. After a couple of months I got a new 500x and I used as a street bike. The 300L feels like a goat and the 500x feels great. They both are reliable!
I need a good tire recommendation 80/20 for the 500x.
Might give the Dunlop munants a look.
Outstanding review, Exactly the information I was looking for and straight to the point with it. The description of the CB500x matched my experience up to this point as well.
EXCELLENT Comparison Dork Dude!
Have a 2022 500x.
About to pull the trigger on the rally if I can get the dealer to get his head out of his ass on pricing.
Great job on the review.
Thanks for sharing. Looking again at the CB500X, 390ADV, 300Rally and the new Triumph 400X. Miss having one in the stable.
Just great.
I thought I’d narrowed down my search to the 300, but now I’m not sure. Guess I’ll need to go ride both.
Very helpful. Still love my ‘16 Triumph Tiger 800, but there are days and easy middleweight bike in the 450-600cc range excite me, and I admit I am intrigued by the CB500X and come close to test riding. But…not quite yet! Dealers, ugh…
2017 cb500x WA hwy20 trip 2023. Great camping
I've had my 500x since March of 21, and recently got a drz400 last October.. I don't even ride the 500x anymore and it's up for sale. That's because I don't do highway and everything for me is close by. But I can't imagine taking the 500x on any kind of real trails, from my experience with it it's way too low to the ground and needs different tires obviously. Great road bike but I'd rather have something different for just on road, so I'm trying to sell it.
As a teenager in the mid to late 80s I had a CR 250, then a CR 500. I think back then they only came as two-strokes, certainly both mine were. Both were awesome, but I have especially good memories of fanging it through the forestry trails next to our farm on that 500 like I'd stolen it, holding on for dear life and doing crazy stuff like only a bullet-proof 17 year old male thinks they can get away with. I didn't end up dead, so I guess I was at least partially right.
To me, calling a CR "friendly" just doesn't compute. Mine were motorcross and enduro slaying beasts! I know, I'm stuck in a "good old days" two-stroke big-bore 80s time-warp, but it kinda saddens me to see the CR tamed like it is in this modern version. I've been away from off road bikes for a long time - do they still make a two-stroke CR? Are they still beasts?
Not often I’ll chime in to a bike review but I feel strongly about this one. I’m 5’9” tall and average build. I’m currently selling my 500x because in my opinion it is terrible on the highway compared to the 300 rally.
At 70mph it feels like I’m hurting the engine and the vibrations are tiring. The seat and pegs position is very wrong! Never known a more painful seat. The extra weight is helpful on windy days and the little bit more power is nice but in every other way the 300 rally wins on and off road for me.
@@alcro38 what you said is really interesting. I would love to get a 300l even though I would ride gravel so seldom (Babys at home) and anyways here in Switzerland are the most illegal.
Because of riding my bike twice a week to work, around 25 Km on highway each way, I thought i must choose the NX500.
It seems logical to buy the 500 instead of the 300 but I would love to practice off road skills anytime I can and the 500 is not really helpful but because of riding the most of the time highway I thought I would suffer with the 300
I have to wait 2 months before purchasing a new bike between those two but I am frustrated in a way because my heart goes for the 300 and my brain for the 500
But how you commented I am more insecure right now if I was thinking wrong about the 500
@ the 300 is just more comfortable and relaxed and the 500 uncomfortable and tiring to ride over distance. It’s illegal too here in Scotland to just play off road but if you are sensible with the area and respectful it’s generally ok.
The 300’s only weak point is the suspension. It is sold cheaper because it’s set up soft from factory. It can feel a touch unsteady in crosswinds but stronger springs will vastly improve the handling.
I was about to sell my 300 rally but kept it and also bought a triumph tiger 800xc for longer road trips.
Avoid the 500!
Also had the privilege of 2 days on a BMW F750GS which was bang on 👌
I really wish I could afford both , it’s always nice to have options.
I can’t even find a dealer around here that has either one in the showroom to even swing a leg over it . However there is a Kawasaki KLX300 available and so I am thinking about buying it.
IDK 🤷♂️ I like the Honda brand though and the CRF300L seems to have some better features than the KLX300 ( buttery smooth transmission, slipper clutch, ABS ) but the KLX has a better suspension from what I’ve been hearing. The CRF300L is around $800 cheaper , so that money could be used to upgrade the fork springs and rear suspension and accessorize the bike to make it even better than the KLX . And lastly as you stated, there’s much better aftermarket support for the Honda and that’s a huge plus for most folks who take pride in ownership and like to customize their bikes.
Just trying to weigh in my options and looking for feedback .
Thanks for the great content here .
Edit : and the Honda has a better instrumentation panel than the Kawasaki
I like the way you broke it down to the type of riding👍 I lean more off and only ride road for light commuting. I live near my riding areas.
Three years ago I bought a Honda CMX500 Rebel as my first bike and I'm really happy with it. But now I discovered motorcycle camping is what I like most and a Rebel is not very comfortable offroad. I'm thinking about the Honda CRF300 or the Yamaha Tenere as my next bike but it's hard to make the choice. Maybe I just wait for next year and see which one is my favorite when the next riding season start..
I wish Honda would make a cb660x - with more clearance, better suspension, and some ride modes compared to the CB500X...
In other words, an Aprilia Tuareg 660 but with a Honda nameplate and reliability!
They did, have a look at the Transalp
I have a rally, but I want both! And they're relatively cheap. That works cause I'm relatively poor lol
My 2019 500x’s have Rally Raid suspension and a high front fender. Makes it much more capable off road! Bulletproof machine. The 500x can be made much more offroad capable and still be highway capable. The 300L will always suffer on highway due to lack of power.
The only better ADV bike for me above a Rally Raided 500x may be the Tuareg 660. ;).
What about the twisties. For hours on the highway a car is the better choice anyway.
Rally Raid is about to release their level 2 suspension upgrade for the 2022/2023 CB500X, which will definitely be an improvement over the stock suspension.
I wonder, if you reached out to them, if they would ship you a level 2 suspension upgrade to review for your 2019 CB500X. Seems like a win-win!
Come on Rally Raid, get the Dork in the Road a better suspension for his CB500X!
Great vid. Think my next bike is the 500X to get me around the Philippines:)
I am an old guy so I can share some old guy thoughts: Get both ;-)
I am fortunate to be have a couple of bikes. It is mostly because road touring and off-pavement are different enough during long duration rides or events that they each have a sweet spot.
I have a R1250GSA for the 5-9 day mostly road and fire trail trips.
I have an 890 Adventure (S for street and short) for more mixed terrain long distance activities.
I have a CRF300LS (for short folks) when I will be mostly off-pavement and have a good chance of needing to be able to be able to pickup the bike.
I told you that it was an old guy comment ;-)
Great video
Its funny, because all i see is very experienced and capable riders (like yourselves) on Honda Rally's on CB 500 X 's while everyones saying they re beginners bikes, excellent video though👍
Both can be true simultaneously
Beginner bike is generally saying it's easy to ride and handle while being fun and enjoyable. Basically, it's the bike the experienced tried left and went back to because it's the best right?
The only problem i have with beginner friendly bikes for beginners and more seasoned riders is all the added weight. The lower power is fine , the weaker suspension its ok for beginners but the weight is really just more tiring.
Exactly.
I had both and the rally was the keeper due to my dirtier needs and wants. Downsized from larger bikes.
All depends on use case, for sure. 300X would be my choice as well because of the riding I like to do.
Honda Rocks! I've ridden the S90, CB160, Elsinore 250, CL350, CB450, GL1100, and now a VT1300CT Interstate!
Nah I just clicked on the video cause I value your opinions and point of views on stuff. 😁
Great vid bro.
😎🤜🤛
The rally is in my short list, have a big, heavy GS now and just isnt what I
need or want at this point. Up till now, crf/klx toss up. BUTTTTT.... along comes a 400x triumph scrambler. Kind of a compromise between the rally and the 500x. Just curious, are you like me, waiting for the verdict on the scrambler? I love the retro, tics a lot of boxes but waiting to see reviews and US price. I know you had some fun on the bigger scramblers, what are your thoughts on the 400x?
Hey Dork! You've really inspired me to get into adventure riding. How do you think the 300 Rally would do on the WA or OR BDRs?
500X is a road bike in dirt dressing
300 Rally is a dirt bike in road dressing
Both are good for their price point, and which one is better depends on what terrain you want to use them for most of the time
They also need a little more modification to be optimal, but nothing major
I would like to get people's opinion on which bike I should go for. I am planning a 2-month road trip through Norway and Finland on the TET but after that I want to use the bike for commuting and round town riding with the occasional off-road trip.
My current thoughts are the 500x with some off-road upgrades
Oh and btw the best thing about both these bikes is the lack of tech. No rider modes or traction control BS. Love it. K.I.S.S. Ups the reliability factor.
thanks.. i was more focus on 300L,, but in reality, the 500x makes more sense.
Random question. As a fellow big dude, I've started messing with preload on my 500x. Before I have to upgrade to Ohlins, etc. What if anything have you done to the x to help highway manners in particular. With a small amount of luggage (haven't maxed the bike out) my front wheel feels like it's off the ground at highway speeds around traffic. Very very light feel overall at speed. Love the content. Now to dig into your X playlist.
Enjoyed the video and RIDE SAFE OUT THERE!
I have cb500x and it's amazing bike, very easy to ride, comfortable, only 3l/100km of fuel consumption. And its also so good in offroad rides. And don't listen people who say it have not enough power.
That had to be the North Bend bridge I saw in the video. All the more reason I want to ask... since I'm looking for a dual-sport bike that can also conquer some sand dunes with a tire swap in the staging area. I want a lighter beginner bike but enough power to handle some sand riding. I don't expect to rip up and down steep dunes, but I want some capability for less intense hills. I'm assuming the 300l would be too weak?
Thank you, very informative and straight
Had my Rally Raided X, for just over 5 years, 10 countries and 82,000 miles. Ridden the TAT, parts of the TET, US, Canada and chunks of Europe, plus way too many work miles. (aka commuting, ugh...). BUT, keep looking at the 300 Rally as a 2nd bike for getting the dirt without the X weight. Convince me i need two bikes...
Do U own cb 500x ? May I please what tires do u prefer most ?
@@tomaszjablonka9178 Hello. I have the TKC80 on the front, and TKC70 Rocks on the rear.
Great video. Would like to see a video about the 690 KTM/701 Husky really considering selling my klx300 to get one. Or I might get a Tenere 700
KLX300 is just too slow on the road for me.
I’ve been fearful of a taller bike but after much research it seems it’s definitely better to increase your skills than decrease your bike.
I'd love to make that video but would have to get my hands on one first.
I’m 70 years old now, & my skills/prowess peaked about half my life- ago! I briefly had -(& enjoyed) an XR 650l, about 10 years ago. I’m not interested anymore in a taller bike with the taller 1st & 2nd (etc) gears. I’ve found that taller bikes are already falling- before I had a good foot-purchase! I’m ‘capping’ my interest at 300CC’s; (however, my older brother’s KTM 390 could possibly be an exception)..?!
Ah this is been on my mind for ages
Great video! Thanks for the insight.
wish Honda would just morph these together :) great video, thank you
Awesome video. Could you do another one comparing the Tenere 700 and the Crf 300 rally? Is the Tenere 700 begginer friendly? I’ve heard mixed opinions
tenere 700 is another level mate😊 but expensive:(
for my first Bike, I went for a V-Strom 250SX.
I have found where it lacks, and decided that it needs twice the engine, switchable ABS (as it's nearly caused catastrophe by refusing to slow the bike at all, when I could have skidded to a stop if I was able to turn it off) and it also really needs Hazard lights (emergency flashers for the Yanks)
and what does the Honda CB500X have that the Suzuki needs? probably all of the above. and it's not Chinese... I've learned that it's better to spend twice as much, than to spend twice. I'm not sold on the CF Moto yet... I'll give it 5 years and see if they hold up!
But at this stage, I wish I knew about the CB500X when I was bike hunting!
I have a 54 year old buddy that had experience riding for years.He shopped for a bike that gets great MPG that he can use for commuting to work 15 min away via HWY and offroad use.
Hes not a prior dirt bike champ or anything. If hes done any off road its been light.
Anyway he bought the CRF300l....
And it perplexed the crap out of me.
I know people love it and it IS a Honda but he doesnt even off road that much and hes having to high rev like crazy on the hwy Im sure.
It just seems like such a crazy move maybe someone can tell me Im wrwong
Hey dork👋 do you think you could bring us a review of the bmw-g310gs? Im trying to figure out which small to mid size bike is right for me. I think a lot of people would appreciate your opinion on it
I just love what a nerd you are. Thanks for this - perfect :) (from a fellow nerd, to be clear!)
If you want to go ANYWHERE! Get the crf300L.
Crf500? Come on Honda.
I love my 300 rally. But if honda took the CRF450RL, traded the motor out for the 500 and put on rally trim, it would be my unicorn. Light, high power to weight ratio, low vibration, great suspension, good fuel economy, and low maintenance. I'm tempted just to make it happen myself! Lol
Cool pugger, Which bike does he like?
I got the 22 klx 300, cant go wrong
I’m thinking the 500x since I’m only doing fire roads when I’m off pavement. No single track.
Great explanation. Thank you
I'm trying to decide if I want a CB500X or wait for the Transalp for a first bike.
Hey Ben, What did you do to your left ankle?
Thanks! 50/50 for the CB500x, on which tyres ?
In europe it seems no open offroad profile can be found in the size 160/60r 17…
I am very pleased with mitas e07, some tyre like that one in the correct size, do you have an idea?
Thanks for the video, super useful. Isn't weight also a factor? I want to do a long silk road trip of over 15,000km, with a lot of highways, but also a lot of very difficult terrain in the mountains with snow/mud/sand. Buuuuut - I'm 250lbs and I will have 60-70lbs of luggage. Which puts me at the limit of the CRF300 :( Do you think it can be an issue?
You can always add a stiffer rear spring, but I'm heavier than you and have taken it camping more than once.
@@DorkintheRoad Oh that's good to know, some people scarred me off about the weight.
How about the heat from the exhaust? Who got the less one?
If you can not make up your mind between the two, get the KTM 390 Adventure, Much better off road than the BC500X and much better on the highway than the CRF300 Rally. Had all three and all are great bikes. I did find the CRF300 L a bit to tall for me, when trying to get on and off on uneven ground. Now riding the CB500X and the Honda Trail125. and most of the time for short rids under 100 km I will take the Trail125 a great utility bike can carry a lot of weight on the rear rack That is one thing I do not like about the CB500X is the weight capacity on the rear rack is way to low. All heavy loads have to go in the side boxes. I did have the CRF 300L and found the gas tank was way to small, ( come on Honda were do you find gas out on the trail???) Looking forward to the CRF300 LS coming to Canada but hopping they will also come with the same gas tank as the Rally dose.
@@hiltonmcconnell2563 arent KTM made in India?
Dumb question, as I’m new to off roading: how does one find off roads to ride on? Is there a site people use? Like if someone’s riding from Mexico to Canada, how do you find where to travel that isn’t the highway? Thanks.
Do the nc750x. Great Swiss Army knife of a bike.
I would be on road more than my 50% of the time but I want to know if the CRF300 rally fit better than the cb500x in heavy heavy heavy traffic
Where I live there is traffic everyday even in highways so I would like to know your opinion
Thanks for the help
Hi can you do a comparison between 500x and v-strom 650? Many thanks
I have a CB500X 2020 and have ridden v-stroms 650 a couple of times (1st gen 2005 and 3rd gen 2017 models). The v-strom is more powerful, definitely better on the highway and vibrates less. Suzuki's latest 650 engine is the best engine I've ever tried in my life! But the CB is also pretty comfortable up to 120 km/h. The riding position is more upright on the CB, while the v-strom feels more like a sport-tourer. The CB feels much lighter (17 kg lighter and has much lower center of gravity), more fun to ride on the backroads (subjective) and I do take mine off-road after I've done the suspension upgrade on it (Hyperpro - the same travel but progressive, stiffer and better damping).
This is a serious question and I'm not trying to be sarcastic. From whom can you buy off road pants that fit? It seems that most off road pants are made to fit teens.
love that the bleeping of dipshit now sounds like you said dick in the video. it made me chuckle. I prefer the rally over the X. It looks so much tougher.
If you want comfort a smoothness of twin cylinder combined with off-road capabilities of dual sport bikes like CRF300LR, then CB500X is NOT the way to go even for beginner. There are bikes that are good at both. Aprilia Tuareg 660, KTM 790 Adv-R, a bit tall Yamaha Tenere 700, and some other. However, each of these good bikes costs twice as CRF300L. On the other side, these bikes are ready from factory, while you have to pour money on CRF300L to get good suspension, seat, durable hand guards, skid plate... so it's not that cheap in the end.
In the end, things are added or modified to all motorcycles, it doesn't matter the bike.
The 500 engine in the 300 chassis would be real winner.
The sad thing is Honda doesnt sell either of them in INDIA
Surely a unicorn bike would be that 500x with a bit more off road capability
Put the new E-clutch on the 500x and I’m sold
What do think compared to your old DR?
DRZ is worse on the road and better off road than the CRF. I don't think it's super beginner friendly, though.
@@DorkintheRoad with all the talk about the new bikes out trying to decide if they are any better then my Dr650... beside newer
@@kenkayser9337 There's nothing quite like the DR650 out there.
We just went over wabdr sec3. Way more rocks then last time
I want a Rally but brand new Rally costs 40€ more than a brand new CB500X so that got me thinking…..
Itchy Boots (Noraly) rides here 300 Rally across continents.
REALLY? You're the first person to ever mention that. ;)
And a 500x early on. Named ‘Ronin’.
Both are excellent bikes, looked at several reviews on each before my last purchase.