Another perspective to put the power rating into was that the average contemporary car in Europe at the time you would meet on the street had 50-75 hp vs 200 hp here.
And they all went faster than American cars at the time🤷♂️😂 Sadly Americans sometimes get wrapped in numbers as a dick waggling thing, yet the cars turned out are sh1t that falls apart as built on a shoe string purely to make money🤦🏼♂️ in the U.K. we had British leyland for that in the 70’s (mind you they made some fook ugly cars AMD they’re shit to drive also!🤷♂️😂) We all get it wrong sometimes, but Porsche rarely do as they follow the traditions of the founder…. That’s why for my dads birthday a few years ago bought a 911 and took him to Germany to the Porsche museum, not because I’m rich at all, I sold my house to do it, but because I wanted to show him what good engineering is capable of…. Of we may have done 186mph on the autobahn whilst there but who knows it wasn’t posted online🤷♂️🤪😂
Zach! This was an awesome editorial of a video. Love the content and the inserts. I know it probably took a bit longer to produce, but it was really appreciated. Hopefully the views reward your efforts. Well done.
Visiting Zuffenhausen, taking a factory tour, seeing the museum and THEN driving one of the finest examples FROM the museum on the local roads? "Spitze!" Doesn't get much better than that. He's probably off to Oktoberfest to wrap up his "business trip!" PROST!!!
Only statement that I disagree with is that a better track car (always) makes a better road car. This most definitely isn’t always the case. But, having driven a 2.7 RS, I can say that it’s the best Sunday morning backroad car I’ve driven in my life. It is closest thing I’ve ever driven to a road going go kart.
I think you have to think about that statement of Zach considering the time. Back then normal cars were really sloppy, had horrible brakes, were underpowered and or had scary aerodynamic characteristics. So in that period the motorsports department made cars much safer and faster. I would even argue that real motorsports engineers would make modern cars better if you told them the right parameters (not nurburgring lap times, but lap times on a slower track for example). As matter of fact Betim from BBI said he often softens the suspension of modern GT cars for race tracks in America - I would consider that making it better on the road.
Dude it’s nice to see a real review of one for a start, I’ve been a very lucky man due to previous job and a very kind owner of 30+ 911’s and knew I loved them, and I’ve driven a low mileage U.K. car, and they’re simply amazing, but real car people give the best reviews so top work dude👌🏻😉
I love his enthusiasm with the car, and he dug up a great story about birdbill in the windscreen, but I do feel there is a bit of a case of the narrative trampling on the actual history. This was not the "first time that the racing engineers came down and improved the street car". As an example I'd like to point out the various 356 Carrera models. Porsche had been doing that since I some of the ideas from the first Le Mans 356 were incorporated into updates to the production cars.
The 2.7 RS has no downforce at all. In fact, it still has quite a bit of lift. The ducktail doesn't produce any downforce. What it does is partial 'spoil' the area of low pressure behind the car, reducing lift. Overall, the 2.7 RS still produces lift, not downforce.
There's a reason why all air cooled low mileage manual coupes cost more than new 911's now. The early ones and 964/993 especially. They are icons and they look absolutely stunning. Sure, new ones are faster and better but they're HUGE GT-like cars that have lost the essence of 911. More reasonable, sure. Just like a chubby lady can probably cook better food than a fitness model with perfect shape. Which one would you hang around with?
@@TheSmokingTire Oh man do I feel that. Premiere has been borderline un-usable for me for years. Sorry for the misdirected heat! Still loved the video as always.
Laughing when you say the sport model "which was cheaper at the time" me in 2022 watching knowing that probably means another 6 figures. If we only knew back then.
No they don't........... Aircooled Porsches have a deeper whaling roar with a distinct vintage hotrod rumble..... Tuned aircooled Porsches have a very muscle car like camy vibro at idle ...... Modern Porsche is too high pitch....
@@PhillyDee215 its almost the exact same dimensions, the miata actually has a longer wheelbase, and I think the nd is also wider. Thats why there both known as the 2 best cars for twisty public roads air cooled 911 and miata.
Biggest car regret of my life. I could have bought a 2.7 RS lightweight back in the early 90s for around AUD$30k. It was a lot of money then, but I could have stretched to it. I test drove it for a day and it was sublime. I didn’t buy it. The current owner has knocked back offers of AUD$1.75m for it. 🥹
The light weight they only made 20. I remember in the 90s no one wanted the long hood ones. You would look for the ones that were converted to impact bumpers LOL
If I give a dislike i tent to explain it: the all concept of the Homologation, not sure where you took it from. Each model of any car is Homologated. Actually the homologation is what usually ruins the ideas of the engineers because they have to respect some rules. May be you wanted to say Special Homologation.Either ways, I find it misinforming.
From Motor Biscuit: "The point of these (homolgation) rules was to discourage automakers from creating supercars just for racing-instead, the racing federations “wanted modified versions of normal street cars to compete.” To satisfy these rules, automakers had to produce insanely fast and powerful production cars to be able to build their racecars." Homologation specials mean that car companies upgrade the cars they are selling to the public in order to use that technology at the track. For example, let's say Car Company X wants to take their favorite coupe, Le Coupe, racing but they know their chassis is really flexible. Some series won't let them build 2 racecars with bespoke tube frame chassis. The rules might state that the race cars have to retain the unibody, and if Car Company X wants to race a new vehicle, they have to sell at least 500 of them to the public. Car Co. X re-engineers the Le Coupe, strengthening the unibody and making other changes. They build 500 cars, sell them to the public, and now their race car is much better than the old one. ZK
first, the chubby guy tries to sell you stuff, immidiately after that, the regular commercial kicks in, after that the little guy tells you stuff everyone with a little interest in porsche knows since ages...great video, you should do that for a living...😴
What a banger of a video! With the exception of the steering wheel, this Porsche is awesome in all the ways that 21st century cars are lame
Isn't a crappy steering wheel di rigueur for a 911?
Truth
Modern wheels and tires have come a long way
Hell, I like the funky steering wheel. It's a bit kitsch, gives the car a bit more character.
I’ve had several air cooled 911’s, but I’ll keep my current 991.2 GT3 over any of them thank you very much
The benchmark for all the hot rod air-cooled 911s. What a dream to be able to drive the real deal. Congrats Zack. 👏
Another perspective to put the power rating into was that the average contemporary car in Europe at the time you would meet on the street had 50-75 hp vs 200 hp here.
210PS to be exact
@@Nord_Mann my bad :)
And they all went faster than American cars at the time🤷♂️😂
Sadly Americans sometimes get wrapped in numbers as a dick waggling thing, yet the cars turned out are sh1t that falls apart as built on a shoe string purely to make money🤦🏼♂️ in the U.K. we had British leyland for that in the 70’s (mind you they made some fook ugly cars AMD they’re shit to drive also!🤷♂️😂)
We all get it wrong sometimes, but Porsche rarely do as they follow the traditions of the founder….
That’s why for my dads birthday a few years ago bought a 911 and took him to Germany to the Porsche museum, not because I’m rich at all, I sold my house to do it, but because I wanted to show him what good engineering is capable of…. Of we may have done 186mph on the autobahn whilst there but who knows it wasn’t posted online🤷♂️🤪😂
Zach! This was an awesome editorial of a video. Love the content and the inserts. I know it probably took a bit longer to produce, but it was really appreciated. Hopefully the views reward your efforts. Well done.
What a dream trip! Awesome that you got to do it Zack!
Visiting Zuffenhausen, taking a factory tour, seeing the museum and THEN driving one of the finest examples FROM the museum on the local roads?
"Spitze!"
Doesn't get much better than that. He's probably off to Oktoberfest to wrap up his "business trip!" PROST!!!
My neighbor has a magnificent 1972 911 RS. I was humbled and honored to be selected to detail the Porsche legend. 🍻
Maybe a 2.7RS homologation car if it’s MY ‘72….??
I saw a classic non RS 911 in exactly that spec drive past my house recently. Made my day.
Only statement that I disagree with is that a better track car (always) makes a better road car. This most definitely isn’t always the case. But, having driven a 2.7 RS, I can say that it’s the best Sunday morning backroad car I’ve driven in my life. It is closest thing I’ve ever driven to a road going go kart.
I think you have to think about that statement of Zach considering the time. Back then normal cars were really sloppy, had horrible brakes, were underpowered and or had scary aerodynamic characteristics. So in that period the motorsports department made cars much safer and faster.
I would even argue that real motorsports engineers would make modern cars better if you told them the right parameters (not nurburgring lap times, but lap times on a slower track for example). As matter of fact Betim from BBI said he often softens the suspension of modern GT cars for race tracks in America - I would consider that making it better on the road.
@@warummussmeinnameangegeben6502 Nurburgring lap times have been the enemy of nice road cars.
those german country roads are gorgeous those houses almost seem like they are not real.
Dude it’s nice to see a real review of one for a start, I’ve been a very lucky man due to previous job and a very kind owner of 30+ 911’s and knew I loved them, and I’ve driven a low mileage U.K. car, and they’re simply amazing, but real car people give the best reviews so top work dude👌🏻😉
Woah, Zach standing next to the RS really makes u see how small they were compared to new GT3!
I love his enthusiasm with the car, and he dug up a great story about birdbill in the windscreen, but I do feel there is a bit of a case of the narrative trampling on the actual history. This was not the "first time that the racing engineers came down and improved the street car". As an example I'd like to point out the various 356 Carrera models. Porsche had been doing that since I some of the ideas from the first Le Mans 356 were incorporated into updates to the production cars.
Ad or not, it's good to see you guys promoting improving mental health
The 2.7 RS has no downforce at all. In fact, it still has quite a bit of lift. The ducktail doesn't produce any downforce. What it does is partial 'spoil' the area of low pressure behind the car, reducing lift. Overall, the 2.7 RS still produces lift, not downforce.
Yep, and Porsche didn’t need ‘feedback’ to know that .. they knew a long time before the 2.7RS.
this seems like pretty much the coolest work trip ever. So jealous!
There's a reason why all air cooled low mileage manual coupes cost more than new 911's now. The early ones and 964/993 especially. They are icons and they look absolutely stunning. Sure, new ones are faster and better but they're HUGE GT-like cars that have lost the essence of 911. More reasonable, sure. Just like a chubby lady can probably cook better food than a fitness model with perfect shape. Which one would you hang around with?
Zack over here living the dream. Nice!
This yellow/black is a touring... yes a dream
But the white/green is a light ... The Legend
I wish that I won the lotto because I’d definitely look for one to own !
maybe Porsche will launch a special edition of a 911 model with a ducktail and a seagull in the windshield
Porsche is king
Another great drive video and an honest review of the granddaddy of all the GT Porsche models, Zack I’m envious beyond belief 👍
What a day! In Germany driving that RS on rural roads. You are one lucky dog!
This has to be one of the most beautiful cars ever made am I right??
Needs a Mansory touch.
Almost as beautiful as the 2006 Chevrolet Rezzo
It's visually perfect. Needs nothing changed.
This was very cool, thanks Zack!
I got to drive a Gulf Blue 73 RS last year and it blew my mind. I may not be able to afford one now, but I will do everything I can to get there.
great video and what a joy and experience that must have been to drive that special 911!
That’s my favorite video after a few years of watching. Probably because it’s pretty much the coolest driver car that can do anything.
It’s the dream of every Porsche fanatic🤩
This and the lacia delta integrale are my dream cars
It's the one of ones proof that it always will be in the details
The story reminds me of a Python skit:
"May we have your windshield then?"
"But I'm USING it!"
Way to go Zach. That was interesting and equally entertaining. What an icon of a car. Keep up the great reviews.
Outstanding historical video, thanks so much !
This was a super interesting video Jack!
I have a 1970 911S - 1,000 kg - 180 BHP - you can all envy me now!
Great shot when you drove the old(ish) car out of the „Recyclinghof“ :-)
Old Porsche's are HOT right now!
Zak "Yakety-Yak"
I love the 2.7 RS. Such a masterpiece.
🏁 My man KLAPPPPMANNNNN!!!! FLEXING with the O.G. R.S.!!!!
This thing just oozes fluidity and confidence inspiring driving, you can just tell by how Z just guides it along down the road
Love the format thanks.
900k-1.2 million
Please tell us more about the trip!
Nice one Zack, really love the history lesson. What a beautiful car.
@TheSmokingTire【 𝟰𝟰𝟯 】𝟱𝟴𝟰-𝟲𝟰𝟬𝟭 No, I haven't. However my name is pretty common.
Bravo! Amazing overview, as always
best video on the channel, epic work Zach!
Love it: "Shtuttgart!" Very well said! Sehr gut!!!
But if you were a local, you'd say "Shturgut." Crazy Schwäbians!
Nice.
Very cool video, Zach!
another gem... great production!
Great looking vehicle. Yellow rules
Really great video ! Best I’ve seen in a while
It's so scary driving in other countries!
They didn't had a centering spring!
Great review Zack, dream car!
Amazing vid! Slight issue with the audio sync
when Porsche flies you out for a video but the editor leaves the audio out of sync for the final product and no one notices :(
I spent a lot of time trying to sync this up, actually. New premiere seems to be having issues. - ZK
@@TheSmokingTire Oh man do I feel that. Premiere has been borderline un-usable for me for years. Sorry for the misdirected heat! Still loved the video as always.
Laughing when you say the sport model "which was cheaper at the time" me in 2022 watching knowing that probably means another 6 figures. If we only knew back then.
Zach’s the man
Great video Z! What a car. Any chance you know the name of the Yellow colour? Light yellow?
Beautiful Porsche
Great vid Zack, well spoken and fun. Much better than Matt. Sorry Matt.
…especially for the seagull.
Love the history!
Great video thanks
I always thought the car was great looking and wanted to drive one. But I would buy something else for the amount these cars go for.
When can we get an update on Matt's Keen Safari Porsche?
He sold it.
I do like a Zackman video 👏🏻
he better drive the 993 gt2
How did You like Germany?
It's kind of amazing, considering how different modern NA Porsche engines are, that they sound SO similar to this classic 2.7
No they don't........... Aircooled Porsches have a deeper whaling roar with a distinct vintage hotrod rumble..... Tuned aircooled Porsches have a very muscle car like camy vibro at idle ...... Modern Porsche is too high pitch....
Only 2300 pounds😵
The lightweight one is 2100 and it felt it! - ZK
Its the same size and weight as a miata, actually smaller then a miata.
@@Sideways_Singh u sure🤔
@@PhillyDee215 its almost the exact same dimensions, the miata actually has a longer wheelbase, and I think the nd is also wider. Thats why there both known as the 2 best cars for twisty public roads air cooled 911 and miata.
I’ll have you know my 2019 si coupe weighs only 2800 pounds good sir
3 minutes of adds in a 14 minute video? Zack, demand more camera time.
Matt talking health is hilarious 🤣
if you ask an EU car guy, "homologation" is one of the worst words in the car universe.
👍
It is sWEEt
🔥1973
Whenever I start watching these videos I'm always just like that's not Matt Farrah
What would I do to own one of those. . . . . .
Pleasure a dirty homeless man.....
But that's it.. I won't go any further than that!!!......🤔
This guy should grow a beard shave his head bald and legally change his name to Matt Farah
Biggest car regret of my life. I could have bought a 2.7 RS lightweight back in the early 90s for around AUD$30k. It was a lot of money then, but I could have stretched to it. I test drove it for a day and it was sublime. I didn’t buy it. The current owner has knocked back offers of AUD$1.75m for it. 🥹
Just buy a 1969 Volkswagen Beetle and put an LS in it.
@@アマ-p2l Not quite the same
The light weight they only made 20. I remember in the 90s no one wanted the long hood ones. You would look for the ones that were converted to impact bumpers LOL
I couldve bought a careera GT in 2005 biggest regert of my life bro I could sold my house
Sublime?? Was your benchmark a 917k?
Subbed for Matt, not Zack.
junk
If I give a dislike i tent to explain it: the all concept of the Homologation, not sure where you took it from. Each model of any car is Homologated. Actually the homologation is what usually ruins the ideas of the engineers because they have to respect some rules. May be you wanted to say Special Homologation.Either ways, I find it misinforming.
From Motor Biscuit: "The point of these (homolgation) rules was to discourage automakers from creating supercars just for racing-instead, the racing federations “wanted modified versions of normal street cars to compete.” To satisfy these rules, automakers had to produce insanely fast and powerful production cars to be able to build their racecars."
Homologation specials mean that car companies upgrade the cars they are selling to the public in order to use that technology at the track. For example, let's say Car Company X wants to take their favorite coupe, Le Coupe, racing but they know their chassis is really flexible. Some series won't let them build 2 racecars with bespoke tube frame chassis. The rules might state that the race cars have to retain the unibody, and if Car Company X wants to race a new vehicle, they have to sell at least 500 of them to the public. Car Co. X re-engineers the Le Coupe, strengthening the unibody and making other changes. They build 500 cars, sell them to the public, and now their race car is much better than the old one. ZK
....pedantic much?
first, the chubby guy tries to sell you stuff, immidiately after that, the regular commercial kicks in, after that the little guy tells you stuff everyone with a little interest in porsche knows since ages...great video, you should do that for a living...😴
like the car stuff but don't like the therapy woke stuff steer clear
Yeah! Fu*K therapy, just get an AR15 and start shooting! /s
Without Ads, you are not getting car stuff.
@@michaelday6987 understood but chose ads better.
getting therapy is woke now?? is anything involving admitting you have emotions now therapy? why yall wanna be a robot so bad
You're the problem