I have seen A Doll's House and Hedda Gabler both of which are fantastic plays. So I look forward to watching Ghosts. Thank you for such an interesting set of short interviews that are very interesting and with some depth.
I'm surprised, in the talk of a Doll's House, nothing is made of the fact that when Nora realised the inevitability of Helmer finding out about the debt, the turning point wasn't so much that he would, but his diametrically wrong response to it compared to her expectation that he would be there to save her, and therefore also himself and the family, just like she had been there to save him and the family before. Without the willingness for reciprocal self sacrifice - as one vows to when getting married - marriage is simply a sham imposed on us by the imagined expectations of society.
He was reviled in those countries where his Plays were staged; he saw through the sleek facades Of the men and women of his times, and He exposed their immoralities and Deceits. The times and mores have changed; he Is now esteemed a great modern playwright.
Women can now work miserable office jobs while a foreign nanny raises their children and they can take pills to stick it! You have to really hate women if you think that the single mom lifestyle is preferable to having a husband.
@old man strength ur profile is the most predictable thing i’ve ever seen lol ur a caricature of a person that’s found on the right and is most likely what bots emulate when trying to look convincing
@FITNESSOVER45 Conservatives are electing a man who underpayed his taxes, lied about election interference (while attempting it himself), lied about hiding classified documents, paid Stormy Daniels hush money out of his campaign funds, tried to sue the media AS the President when they shat on him, fired/lost every lawyer he had, lied EVERY DAY IN OFFICE... ... oh but libs are the liars.
I'm going to sound like a hard-nosed polemic, but I hate hearing people considering A Doll House make such a point of Ibsen not meaning to write first of all a feminist play. Good art tend not to be a political tract and to be many things at once, yes, but I also feel it matters to emphasize that feminist thought could only emerge out of a concern for paying attention to women's humanity and struggle when it was politically inconvenient to turn an unflinching gaze onto that. Feminism emerges out of other things as a movement and is applied to the context of other kinds of thought. If, in creating existential drauma about characters who seek to live lives based on meaning truth and authenticity, you choose to centralize female characters as seekers of that truth, and if you show that in spite of the political explosiveness of how those women act and react, than your play is feminist - or it's a pre-feminist springboard for feminism. Yes, it may be that among many other things --really good art should be as multidimensional as possible, but I still think it's worth looking at A Doll's House as in the context of what it did for the possibilities of emerging feminist ideas as a core work for feminism. I'm sure there could be some good discussion of how Ibsen, as a very privileged man, came to create such believable female protagonists struggling within societal constraints.
The relationship of men to woman in the plays of Ibsen have many concrete modern interpretations. Many use these aspects of the plays for own political propaganda. But also many of the women in his plays are clever manipulators, and blow up the significance of things that happened to them in earlier life as tools for own manipulation, but these aspects are not given emphasis in current interpretations.
Wonderful. Thanks for this great introduction.
I have seen A Doll's House and Hedda Gabler both of which are fantastic plays.
So I look forward to watching Ghosts.
Thank you for such an interesting set of short interviews that are very interesting and with some depth.
Where did you watch them? I mean did you watch them online? I saw GHosts with judi Dench on youtube .
Ibsen shook the world. This must be remembered now and then.
Hayatta en güçlü insan, en uzun süre yalnız kalabilendir.
🕊️
Henrik İbsen
I'm surprised, in the talk of a Doll's House, nothing is made of the fact that when Nora realised the inevitability of Helmer finding out about the debt, the turning point wasn't so much that he would, but his diametrically wrong response to it compared to her expectation that he would be there to save her, and therefore also himself and the family, just like she had been there to save him and the family before. Without the willingness for reciprocal self sacrifice - as one vows to when getting married - marriage is simply a sham imposed on us by the imagined expectations of society.
He was reviled in those countries where his
Plays were staged; he saw through the sleek facades
Of the men and women of his times, and
He exposed their immoralities and
Deceits. The times and mores have changed; he
Is now esteemed a great modern playwright.
Women can now work miserable office jobs while a foreign nanny raises their children and they can take pills to stick it!
You have to really hate women if you think that the single mom lifestyle is preferable to having a husband.
@old man strength ur profile is the most predictable thing i’ve ever seen lol ur a caricature of a person that’s found on the right and is most likely what bots emulate when trying to look convincing
@FITNESSOVER45 Conservatives are electing a man who underpayed his taxes, lied about election interference (while attempting it himself), lied about hiding classified documents, paid Stormy Daniels hush money out of his campaign funds, tried to sue the media AS the President when they shat on him, fired/lost every lawyer he had, lied EVERY DAY IN OFFICE...
... oh but libs are the liars.
Brilliant:)
I'm going to sound like a hard-nosed polemic, but I hate hearing people considering A Doll House make such a point of Ibsen not meaning to write first of all a feminist play. Good art tend not to be a political tract and to be many things at once, yes, but I also feel it matters to emphasize that feminist thought could only emerge out of a concern for paying attention to women's humanity and struggle when it was politically inconvenient to turn an unflinching gaze onto that. Feminism emerges out of other things as a movement and is applied to the context of other kinds of thought. If, in creating existential drauma about characters who seek to live lives based on meaning truth and authenticity, you choose to centralize female characters as seekers of that truth, and if you show that in spite of the political explosiveness of how those women act and react, than your play is feminist - or it's a pre-feminist springboard for feminism. Yes, it may be that among many other things --really good art should be as multidimensional as possible, but I still think it's worth looking at A Doll's House as in the context of what it did for the possibilities of emerging feminist ideas as a core work for feminism. I'm sure there could be some good discussion of how Ibsen, as a very privileged man, came to create such believable female protagonists struggling within societal constraints.
Bojack brought me here
What do you mean?
Où se situe GUISE ?
LES Maçons vous le diront ?
s'ils sont
mariables ?
Am I the only one watching this because he has to make an Ibsen essay for tomorrow?
Apparently
I m working on a thesis about ibsen nd A doll s house
Imposed and supposed identity. Very existential
The relationship of men to woman in the plays of Ibsen have many concrete modern interpretations. Many use these aspects of the plays for own political propaganda. But also many of the women in his plays are clever manipulators, and blow up the significance of things that happened to them in earlier life as tools for own manipulation, but these aspects are not given emphasis in current interpretations.
Plays are diversion and Entertainment from everyday boredom in it's purest form could not care less about hidden meanings like Women's Liberation!!!!!
Ce que la soi-disant
famille nous a fait vivre ?
entre quatre murs aux oreilles aiguîsées ?
Masonic propaganda
Perhaps Ibsen was a mason? It is rather probable, because very many of the elite in the Norwegian society were and are masons.
Brilliant:)