The thing I love about your channel is finding new headphones brands that I've never heard of before. These sound like something I'd he highly interested in. Thanks for the review! PS - New glass frames look good on you. 😉
Thanks, had quite a few compliments on the glasses ;) Final have been around for a while, but hopefully these should get them more noticed as a brand :D
I got a pair e3000s like 2yrs ago I listen to lots of genres they do not put out just anything. Amazed these wireless iems are under 2 bills. They have ones north of a used car
Absolutely agree, best sounding TWS earbuds. I have MW08, DM BE3000Ai, JBL Livefree NC+ TWS and Final ZE3000 to me sound so good. Not as much base as MW08 and DM BE3000Ai, but are clear and more airy. Vocals are pure joy.
My only thing iz that, i, think alot of audiofiles type sound sigz are flat sounding..one thing i wont listen too, izza dull, flat sound signature..thanx , so much for the return info..i like ta hear the different sound sigz, with my sabbat e12 ultraz, lypertek sf , s 20..ur vids on thoze , sealed the deal, on me getting the s20z..alzo ave the mpowx3z, and juzt got the votomy v22z..all of em sound different..for all 4 pair, i paid less then 180 bucks..i dont use eq . in any of my listeninz..my motto, iz, clarity, and volume with no distortion , and youll ave a great pair of twsz...thanx so much for ur reply..i might take a look at theze down the road..peace
Really like the way you approach ur reviews..im not even a subscriber, but ya still sent ur point of views on the final ze 3000z..reason i avent subsribed with anyone, iz, cauze , and dont take thiz offensive..Are the bloatware that follow it..minute , i went on you tube, thiz morning, iz , my girl got it with our cable..firzt i was pissed she got it, but i can watch ur vids, other peoplez vidz on a big tv set..it makez such a difference to reviews ya look at, on ur cell phone..night and day difference..soon az ur vid came up thiz morning..I had to watch it, because, ya dont put thinz down...anyway, thanx, and im defentitly gonna be keepin an open mind to getting the final ze 3000z..foe zhure..got my s20z for 41 buckz, anr i luv em..only pair i ave , i paid full ransome for..Sabbat e12 ultraz for 90 bucks..ya should give the sabbatz a listen..ya gotta ave the right eartips for em though..using , znari foam , large, t500z for my sabbats..wow..thanx again..tty..peace
My first time ever hear about this brand. Is it compared to B&O, B&W, Bose, Sennheiser ...? or its less degree? I specifically asking for the sound quality.
Sound quality is actually better than a lot of the more well known brands - as they focus on sound instead of marketing. Final have incredible heritage too if you look them up.
Thanks for the review! I think I might grab these given the SQ and price. A question: is there any way that I can stream music from my iphone with higher bitrate than AAC by using some sort of adapter, something like the B&W PI7 case?
I'm not aware of any external bluetooth transmitters that would work as a DAC out of the iPhone into LDAC or aptX adaptive sadly. Apple need to up their game in terms of Bluetooth and stop being proprietary with their products and features.
@@BBshark000 Not at all, the Fokus Pro sound bloated in comparison, whilst the ZE3000 has a more neutral yet still punchy presentation. It highly depends on if you prefer exaggerated bass or a more balanced tuning.
Well since you wanna start going down that 🐰 🕳️⛳ of higher FIDELITY!! Look into a DAP DAC Hiby, Hidizs, or FiiO have some $100 It can be a stand alone player balanced and unbalanced Jack's. LDAC , AptX HD +LL. Hiby's UAT.
They have a QR code on the box for the app, and it is in development, but it's not available in English, only Japanese at the moment. We're hoping it'll be available soon.
Different, the Fokus Pro were surprisingly unrefined and a bit peaky for my tastes (Oscar) I found the Lypertek Z7 to be much more linear, if not a little too refined (boring to some). The ZE3000 cost a lot less, but I personally prefer them to the Fokus Pro for daily use, the comfort is better and the sound is more natural. Falcon Pro on the other hand are quite a good TWS earphone with plenty of detail, good fit and a subtle sub-bass lift - not quite as clean cut as the Final but definitely a good contender for a daily use earphone.
Hey, if you’re still responding to comments: What are the best sounding ANC TWS you have found, and how do those compare to these? I would be upgrading from the z reviews originals: Tin T2 + fiio UTWS2 from 2020. So I’m used to not having ANC, and enjoying great audio
They do well in most environments, but if there is a lot of wind noise the person on the other end will hear it (not an issue for the listener as there are no ANC mics to pick it up).
John yes I've been reading all the info about the drivers how they engineered them to work in a sealed cavity. But I did not know any reviews were out! I had my heart set on the Over Ear Headphones from Final with that awesome texture. Now I can't make up my mind. I just sent back my 🦌 space Audio headphones. Well they rhyme w 🦌! Sound Quality priority .. my wife's gonna be pissed 😡 just get Both?
I don’t consider myself a true audiophile, but I do appreciate and understand the basics to good sound quality. I’ve used the Master & Dynamic MW07 plus / Bose quietcomfort / Sony XM4 (newest). How do these stack up in terms of bass / clarity / sound isolation/noise canceling? Thanks!
These don't have any active noise cancelling but the isolation is more than enough for daily use. In terms of clarity the only ones you have listed that we have tried are the XM4 - and these definitely beat them in terms of detail and control, at the expense of a little warmth of smoothness that the Sony have.
@@hifiheadphones good to know, appreciate the response! I’m definitely sticking with my Sony’s for now, but for the price I’d argue these are probably some of the best I’ve seen for a better value, and you’d get your monies worth if you can forego a few minor things that other earphones have that these don’t.
@@whitefaze13 I own the XM4, the Samsung airbub pro and the ze3000, what I can say is that the Samsung for me was much better than the Sony, we made comparisons with other member and everyone was unanimous. ze3000 seems better than Samsung, I don’t even talk about XM4 anymore, Sony are really far behind
@@maurofrederic1807 I can’t say I’ve tried the Samsung before. Would you really rate them higher then the newest Sony’s? I guess if I had to make few categories of my personal rating towards the Sony’s. I’d say: Sound Quality: 8.5 / 10 Battery: 9 / 10 Design: 8 / 10 Value for money spent: 8 / 10 Overall they are expensive and there’s still a few bugs they need to work out, which I’ve experienced with just about every earphone. But overall still very solid and if you ‘can’ afford it, worth the money. The ZE3000 are also a very aesthetically pleasing design choice and look pretty nice. Only gripe is they don’t have active noise cancelation. Maybe if they have an updated model later on, since I know they are newer models
@@whitefaze13 exact there is no active reduction but the passive reduction is quite correct. if I want to use with active reduction , my best current choice and the samsung earbud pro, its reduction is almost as effective as that of the XM4 and for me the sound is much better, it remains the fit that can be delicate depending on the person
I've become a big final audio fan now. I have the a4000 iem and ux3000 ANC headphones. Considering buying these for on the go audio. Would be perfect if these had ANC
@@hifiheadphones I bought these and they sound so good! The resolution is unlike any other tws I've tried. I didn't feel the need for ANC with music on.
Sadly it seems we misunderstood what the app is for - they will release an app so you can register your products serial number but they do not plan to make any additional features available via an app.
These are not the loudest true wireless we've tested and you might want something with a little more punch for the gym (personal opinion) - the Lypertek Z3 2.0 would be better for that.
@@hifiheadphones - This is gonna sound like a newbie question which it is, and why i've kind of hidden it away here, but do you need another device that transmits the bluetooth to these headphones, and what is that called so i can search for it?
@@jezzyby47 most people use their phone with these kind of earphones, as all modern phones have bluetooth. And most people use music streaming services on their phones.
@@jezzyby47 Some TV's have bluetooth, if not you can get transmitters from Amazon etc... But some bluetooth earphones have slight lag which isn't good for TV use.
Leaving out ambient sound mode is simply lazy. There are a ton of budget bluetooth earbuds clocking in at $30 that have this feature so it's not a matter of sacrificing this feature for cost.
Not really - a lot of ambient modes impact the sound quality. If you don't like these, then there are plenty of cheap options that you might enjoy - for us and many others the sound quality of these is far superior than other models and thus this missing feature really isn't an issue.
Excellent review!!!!🔥🙂👍🏻
Thanks!!
The thing I love about your channel is finding new headphones brands that I've never heard of before. These sound like something I'd he highly interested in. Thanks for the review!
PS - New glass frames look good on you. 😉
Thanks, had quite a few compliments on the glasses ;)
Final have been around for a while, but hopefully these should get them more noticed as a brand :D
I got a pair e3000s like 2yrs ago I listen to lots of genres they do not put out just anything. Amazed these wireless iems are under 2 bills. They have ones north of a used car
Absolutely agree, best sounding TWS earbuds. I have MW08, DM BE3000Ai, JBL Livefree NC+ TWS and Final ZE3000 to me sound so good. Not as much base as MW08 and DM BE3000Ai, but are clear and more airy. Vocals are pure joy.
Which one do you prefere? Ze3000 or the ze2000?
Xcellent review by ya john..Was lookin to get a final audio tws ..I ave 4 pair now..I saw there listing for 149.00 on amazon..
£119 in the UK and available on Amazon :) these are brilliant
My only thing iz that, i, think alot of audiofiles type sound sigz are flat sounding..one thing i wont listen too, izza dull, flat sound signature..thanx , so much for the return info..i like ta hear the different sound sigz, with my sabbat e12 ultraz, lypertek sf , s 20..ur vids on thoze , sealed the deal, on me getting the s20z..alzo ave the mpowx3z, and juzt got the votomy v22z..all of em sound different..for all 4 pair, i paid less then 180 bucks..i dont use eq . in any of my listeninz..my motto, iz, clarity, and volume with no distortion , and youll ave a great pair of twsz...thanx so much for ur reply..i might take a look at theze down the road..peace
@@ikejennings1154 These have clarity and low distortion but are not clinical, analytical or boring to listen to :)
Really like the way you approach ur reviews..im not even a subscriber, but ya still sent ur point of views on the final ze 3000z..reason i avent subsribed with anyone, iz, cauze , and dont take thiz offensive..Are the bloatware that follow it..minute , i went on you tube, thiz morning, iz , my girl got it with our cable..firzt i was pissed she got it, but i can watch ur vids, other peoplez vidz on a big tv set..it makez such a difference to reviews ya look at, on ur cell phone..night and day difference..soon az ur vid came up thiz morning..I had to watch it, because, ya dont put thinz down...anyway, thanx, and im defentitly gonna be keepin an open mind to getting the final ze 3000z..foe zhure..got my s20z for 41 buckz, anr i luv em..only pair i ave , i paid full ransome for..Sabbat e12 ultraz for 90 bucks..ya should give the sabbatz a listen..ya gotta ave the right eartips for em though..using , znari foam , large, t500z for my sabbats..wow..thanx again..tty..peace
My first time ever hear about this brand.
Is it compared to B&O, B&W, Bose, Sennheiser ...? or its less degree?
I specifically asking for the sound quality.
Sound quality is actually better than a lot of the more well known brands - as they focus on sound instead of marketing. Final have incredible heritage too if you look them up.
Thanks for the review! I think I might grab these given the SQ and price.
A question: is there any way that I can stream music from my iphone with higher bitrate than AAC by using some sort of adapter, something like the B&W PI7 case?
I'm not aware of any external bluetooth transmitters that would work as a DAC out of the iPhone into LDAC or aptX adaptive sadly.
Apple need to up their game in terms of Bluetooth and stop being proprietary with their products and features.
@@hifiheadphones Would you say there is a significant lack of bass for the ZE3000, and especially when compared to say, FoKus pro?
@@BBshark000 Not at all, the Fokus Pro sound bloated in comparison, whilst the ZE3000 has a more neutral yet still punchy presentation. It highly depends on if you prefer exaggerated bass or a more balanced tuning.
Well since you wanna start going down that 🐰 🕳️⛳ of higher FIDELITY!! Look into a DAP DAC Hiby, Hidizs, or FiiO have some $100 It can be a stand alone player balanced and unbalanced Jack's. LDAC , AptX HD +LL. Hiby's UAT.
I hope those tips are available to purchase like the regular Type E. I use those on my wired IEMs.
I don't see why Final wouldn't offer them as spares, they are super comfy!
may i ask, did final make an announcement that they were making an app for it? im holding out hope that they can at least bring an ambient mode on it
They have a QR code on the box for the app, and it is in development, but it's not available in English, only Japanese at the moment. We're hoping it'll be available soon.
I'm currently using Sennheiser MTW2.
How does this compare in terms of sound quality?
We personally prefer the crisper and cleaner sound of the Final over the warm and relaxed sound of the Sennheiser.
@@hifiheadphones thanks for the feedback
Good review.. Well descrived
These are very good, sound is nice and crisp. What product would you rec for overall soundstage?
out of true wireless the ZE3000 are probably some of the best in terms of soundstage - the Lypertek Z7 might just have the edge though
How does sound compare to the final A4000.
Quite similar in many ways, clean and clear :) I haven't tested them side by side but there are full reviews of both models on our blog.
No ambient mode is unfortunate, but I'm sure the sound quality makes up for it.
It could be something they add down the line with firmware updates, but they sound so good you soon forget about the features that are missing.
still worth it in 2024? (at around 100usd)
How good does it fit in the ear especially for sports?
Very well, secure enough for sports.
Please compare noble fokus mystique
How do these compare with the wired final A3000?
Similar in some ways but with a little more body to the sound
How do these sound compared to the noble audio fokus pro and falcon pro?
Different, the Fokus Pro were surprisingly unrefined and a bit peaky for my tastes (Oscar) I found the Lypertek Z7 to be much more linear, if not a little too refined (boring to some).
The ZE3000 cost a lot less, but I personally prefer them to the Fokus Pro for daily use, the comfort is better and the sound is more natural.
Falcon Pro on the other hand are quite a good TWS earphone with plenty of detail, good fit and a subtle sub-bass lift - not quite as clean cut as the Final but definitely a good contender for a daily use earphone.
@@hifiheadphones So in your opinion in terms of overall sound and bass is the ZE3000 a tad better than the Falcon Pro?
@@pablojaquez7949 The ZE3000 is flatter sounding, the Falcon Pro is a bit smoother and has slightly better separation during fast tracks.
Love the channel
Thanks
Do you know if they will they be making a higher end model as well? i.e. ze4000
Hopefully ;)
Hey, if you’re still responding to comments:
What are the best sounding ANC TWS you have found, and how do those compare to these?
I would be upgrading from the z reviews originals: Tin T2 + fiio UTWS2 from 2020. So I’m used to not having ANC, and enjoying great audio
Do you know how the phone calls sound in windy/noisy conditions? (for me as the listener and the person on the other end)
They do well in most environments, but if there is a lot of wind noise the person on the other end will hear it (not an issue for the listener as there are no ANC mics to pick it up).
John yes I've been reading all the info about the drivers how they engineered them to work in a sealed cavity. But I did not know any reviews were out! I had my heart set on the Over Ear Headphones from Final with that awesome texture. Now I can't make up my mind. I just sent back my 🦌 space Audio headphones. Well they rhyme w 🦌! Sound Quality priority .. my wife's gonna be pissed 😡 just get Both?
Both the ZE3000 and UX3000 are super for the price, can't go wrong with either to be fair.
@@hifiheadphones NOT HELPFUL!!!!😜😁
I don’t consider myself a true audiophile, but I do appreciate and understand the basics to good sound quality. I’ve used the Master & Dynamic MW07 plus / Bose quietcomfort / Sony XM4 (newest).
How do these stack up in terms of bass / clarity / sound isolation/noise canceling?
Thanks!
These don't have any active noise cancelling but the isolation is more than enough for daily use. In terms of clarity the only ones you have listed that we have tried are the XM4 - and these definitely beat them in terms of detail and control, at the expense of a little warmth of smoothness that the Sony have.
@@hifiheadphones good to know, appreciate the response! I’m definitely sticking with my Sony’s for now, but for the price I’d argue these are probably some of the best I’ve seen for a better value, and you’d get your monies worth if you can forego a few minor things that other earphones have that these don’t.
@@whitefaze13 I own the XM4, the Samsung airbub pro and the ze3000, what I can say is that the Samsung for me was much better than the Sony, we made comparisons with other member and everyone was unanimous. ze3000 seems better than Samsung, I don’t even talk about XM4 anymore, Sony are really far behind
@@maurofrederic1807 I can’t say I’ve tried the Samsung before. Would you really rate them higher then the newest Sony’s? I guess if I had to make few categories of my personal rating towards the Sony’s. I’d say:
Sound Quality: 8.5 / 10
Battery: 9 / 10
Design: 8 / 10
Value for money spent: 8 / 10
Overall they are expensive and there’s still a few bugs they need to work out, which I’ve experienced with just about every earphone. But overall still very solid and if you ‘can’ afford it, worth the money.
The ZE3000 are also a very aesthetically pleasing design choice and look pretty nice. Only gripe is they don’t have active noise cancelation. Maybe if they have an updated model later on, since I know they are newer models
@@whitefaze13 exact there is no active reduction but the passive reduction is quite correct. if I want to use with active reduction , my best current choice and the samsung earbud pro, its reduction is almost as effective as that of the XM4 and for me the sound is much better, it remains the fit that can be delicate depending on the person
How do these compare to the warmer sounding B&W Pi7?
Sadly we haven't heard the B&W
Sound quality of these vs. Sony xm5 ?
More space in ze3000 and Sound stage.
I've become a big final audio fan now. I have the a4000 iem and ux3000 ANC headphones. Considering buying these for on the go audio. Would be perfect if these had ANC
The passive isolation is good enough for portable use - you only really need ANC for constant background noise (train/plane etc...)
@@hifiheadphones I bought these and they sound so good! The resolution is unlike any other tws I've tried. I didn't feel the need for ANC with music on.
@@tweakerofknobs Exactly, no need for ANC, it would ruin the sound ;)
Any ideas on when the Eng version of the app is launching?
Sadly it seems we misunderstood what the app is for - they will release an app so you can register your products serial number but they do not plan to make any additional features available via an app.
@@hifiheadphones No problem, good to know either way!
Hello can tell me if these get loud for gym
These are not the loudest true wireless we've tested and you might want something with a little more punch for the gym (personal opinion) - the Lypertek Z3 2.0 would be better for that.
Have you fit springs in your feet? What's all about the hopping? 😂😅
No app to use?
Nope, but that's fine by us - don't need it for pure sound quality
These sound better than the Sennheisser?
Depends on your preference, Sennheiser tend to have a more rounded and fuller sound whereas these will have better detail, control and clarity.
@@hifiheadphones - This is gonna sound like a newbie question which it is, and why i've kind of hidden it away here, but do you need another device that transmits the bluetooth to these headphones, and what is that called so i can search for it?
@@jezzyby47 most people use their phone with these kind of earphones, as all modern phones have bluetooth.
And most people use music streaming services on their phones.
@@hifiheadphones - Oh i get it, i thought they were for watching TV etc, not just for Itunes etc.
@@jezzyby47 Some TV's have bluetooth, if not you can get transmitters from Amazon etc...
But some bluetooth earphones have slight lag which isn't good for TV use.
Microphone samples, that would be great
Yeah, it's always a tricky one but trust us, the mic is brilliant
I'm quite tempted by these, but I also am tempted by the Evangelion ones
Evangelion are more of a collectors item, these have better sound quality
Should add Subtitle!!!
They love 6mm drivers.
Nothing wrong with 6mm micro-drivers, when well implemented and tuned well they can offer up some impressive sound!
They fall out my air easily and the touch is too sensitive
Leaving out ambient sound mode is simply lazy. There are a ton of budget bluetooth earbuds clocking in at $30 that have this feature so it's not a matter of sacrificing this feature for cost.
Not really - a lot of ambient modes impact the sound quality. If you don't like these, then there are plenty of cheap options that you might enjoy - for us and many others the sound quality of these is far superior than other models and thus this missing feature really isn't an issue.
All words lmao no explanation