what a great conversation. it's been such a long time since I've seen such a respectable man... my heart broke when he said "im only going to one place, the hell one" . may God bless this man and I will pray that he can welcome Jesus in his life so he can soften he's already softened heart even more because he's already halfway there.
God did stick to the moral code He gave us, by sacrificing His son, and not requiring Abraham to. God has fulfilled HIS CODE, and proved He could be perfect AND kill His son.
God didn't fulfill anything that flesh is capable of. Abraham is a man so he thought like a man. But what is from God is God, jesus died because the people of this world are evil, otherwise he wouldn't need to die. He did it for his sheep who hears his voice, if you being evil don't want to have your son killed, how much more God? But he allowed it to happen because everyone has free will.
The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life-only to take it up again. 18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. John 10
"I feel that he (God) should live under the same moral code he expects of us" Funnily enough that's the same argument children make to their parents - but we all understand, as adults - that's not correct. There is a different standard for parent and child. He is definitionally good, his standards and reasons are beyond our understanding because we're children - and he the parent. What you need to do is just understand that definitionally he's correct and trust.
Great explanation. I caught when he said that too. And if this man believes there is no God (or that we can't know if there's a God), then I wonder how he works out this mysterious sense of right and wrong we are equipped with.
That was a great video - great explanation. I’m sure that the young fella has turned his life around and now looks forward to spending eternity with our Lord in Heaven.
The God of the Old Testament is Jesus Christ. He was teaching our Israelite ancestors to love and honor our creator. Then after we dishonored him enough, God divorced us in order to remarry us in the faith of Jesus Christ. He referred to himself as the bridegroom for a reason
@@mr.renaissancemts Yahweh is pagan war god who divorced his wife asherah. God name is Allah which you called Elohim in distorted Hebrew. Jesus, Moses, David, Solemon all were prophets of one Almighty God. Holy sprit/ sprit/ sprit of truth is Angel gibrael who connected with humans basically prophets through divine revelation.
@@truefaith1718 your book tells you to look to the scriptures for truth. Allah means strong oak. Or Allah is god in that religion so it's not a name but title.
Jesus was always there for. John 1:1-4 King James Version 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. Amen.
No offense to Catholics but they make a big deal about being first, but I see a lot of works based salvation in them. Its not about religion, its about Jesus Himself.
If someone asked me to sacrifice my son, I would have said no, concluded that was a bad God and never obeyed. Why God test Abraham on his moral? Either do the wrong or losing trust. It was unfair and unjust. I still dont get my answers from this conversation.
God knew Abraham's heart and knew he would do anything God asked him to do. Abraham knew If he had to give his son to God, that God would take care of Isiac, who was given to Abraham from God to begin with! When God lets us go through difficult times and difficult decisions, it teaches us to lean into God and rely on Him and strengthens our faith in God.
It's like if your parent's told you to give away a toy to a friend and once you do give you a better on except instead you get to keep the toy and get the better one because you obeyed them
God didn't kill his Son. Mankind killed His Son. God used sinful mankind to save mankind. God in His manifold wisdom used mankinds free will, to do something that mankind could never do... Save himself. Now the freewill of mankind is this. It's easy. Trust in Jesus for his righteous, not your own.
@@bugsbunny2500 You will surely give price in eternity for denying the true monotheism teaching of prophets and followed Paul. Just like any other prophets, Jesus prayed to one unseen God. If you really follow Jesus, Why you prayed to triniune? Shouldn't you repent to your one & only true God for having such kind blasphemy that God are an elderly father retired from the responsibility of heaven, a 30 year old beaten by romans and a white dove?
Isaac was monogenes, meaning one of a kind. Same word used in John 3:16, referring to the Son of God that is species unique and above all Elohim. Isaac was one of a kind because he was the fulfillment of Gods promise.
Psalms 2:12 kiss His Son : (This Son is Jesus Christ),or He will be angry and your way will lead to your destruction.for His wrath can flare up in a moment, Blessed are all who take refuge in Him Proverbs Chapter 8 : The wisdom described is the Lord Jesus. Proverbs 8:35-36 For those who find Me( Jesus)find life and receive favor from the Lord.bur those who fail to find Me harm themselves,all who hate Me love death
This particular one is smart but it's only the first line of explanation. Why do we still need Jesus to be good ppl? If this is all ab claiming smth in His Name like I do this bc Jesus told me so, it's not working - many ppl are almost perfect while not the Christians. How do you become a better person in deeds not words? God's not doing anything for you, you should. What's the hidden message behind the Trinity - beyond behavioral? 😉
@@ariammogos6866 No he isn't. God who saved the righteous people of Noah is the true saviour of humanity. Jesus prayed to him during the night of crucifixion.
@@truefaith1718 that was the flesh that prayed. Being an example for us to do. There is no flesh and blood in heaven. After that blood was shed he has took on the fullness of God
God flooded the world because he was angry that a 900 year old man and his relatives took 150 years to build a boat and then didnt include penguins on the ark because Noah didn't want to travel up north to get them because he didnt have anything warm to wear and thought the trip would take 40 years and he was already 900 years old by then so he was a little worried about his heart.
@@bennettdaniel7779 To present a counter argument, there has to be something that makes some sort of sense. Unfortunately, that’s not what we’re dealing with here.
John 1:14 The Correct Meaning. And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. Notice how John 1:14 DID NOT SAY: And (GOD) became flesh and dwelt among us, as would be the case if John was teaching Jesus is GOD who became flesh, as MOST wrongly believe Jesus is GOD who became flesh. John 1:14 continues saying: And we beheld His glory, a glory as of an only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth. Notice Jesus is: an only begotten from the Father, meaning Jesus was BORN and Fathered from His GOD and Father, proving Jesus is NOT the SAME GOD He was Begotten from. To be Begotten means to come into existence, and NOT always existing as most wrongly believe. John 1:14 is simply saying the (word) of Yahweh became a living, walking, physical MAN, called The Word (OF) God in Revelation 19:13 and Yahweh's Begotten Son. But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, HAVING BEEN BORN OF A WOMEN, having been born under the Law, Galatians 4:4. Notice how Jesus first came into existence by HAVING BEEN BORN OF A WOMEN? Please notice how we read in Acts 2:22 saying Jesus was a MAN, and nothing about Jesus being GOD, or an Angel, or some kind of Spirit being BEFORE He was BORN: Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, (A MAN) having been set forth by God to you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by Him in your the midst, as you yourselves know. Notice in John 8:40 how Jesus Himself confirms He is (A MAN) and says nothing about Himself being GOD, or an Angel, or some kind of Spirit being BEFORE He was BORN: But now you seek to kill Me, (A MAN) who has spoken to you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do this. Romans 1: 1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, set apart for the Good News of God, 2 which he promised before through his prophets in the holy Scriptures, 3 concerning his Son, who was born of the seed of David according to the flesh, 4 who was declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the Spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead, Jesus Christ our Lord, 5 through whom we received grace and apostleship, for obedience of faith among all the nations, for his name's sake; 6 among whom you are also called to belong to Jesus Christ; Notice how Paul tells us that Jesus: was BORN of the seed of David according to the flesh, who was declared to be the Son of God, in line with what Jesus tells us in John 10:36 saying I am the Son of GOD. NOT GOD. Notice how we do NOT read Paul saying Jesus PRE-EXISTED his flesh before David? But instead we read Paul saying Jesus comes into existence by the seed of David according to the flesh, in line with John 1:14 saying the word of GOD became FLESH, as the SON of MAN Jesus. NOWHERE is it written that Jesus was already alive with GOD in heaven and was transformed into the BABY Jesus, unless you are reading the many false modern Bible translations. If Jesus was WITH GOD before He was BORN as a MAN, then WHAT WAS HE? Jesus did speak figuratively by saying He came down from Heaven and simply meant He came from GOD as GOD is in heaven, just as Jesus tells us in Matthew 6:9 saying: Therefore pray you like this: 'Our Father (IN THE HEAVENS), hallowed be Your name! Just as James 1:17 tells us: Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow. Jesus is truly a gift from GOD, when we take up our cross and deny ourselves by believing and following the true Jesus, we will be saved: For God so loved the world that (HE GAVE) the only begotten Son, so that everyone believing in Him should not perish, but should have eternal life. John 3:16. BLB. Notice how we read in John 3:16, how GOD GAVE us His only begotten Son, and yet most have been deceived into believing in a false Gospel teaching GOD came and gave Himself and madly believe died on the cross, when the truth is GOD cannot DIE, when it was GOD's SON who died, NOT GOD, which makes a false Christ.
Did he not say to honor me is to honor God and isn't worship a part of honoring God. The pharisees wanted to kill because he was claiming to be God when he said " before Abraham was, I AM. A reference to exodus chapter 3. And Jesus did say he is God when the asked before his crucifixion and the priest tore his robes. Jesus claiming to be God is he was killed in the first place
@@coolgoku810 John 17:5 Correct Understanding. And now glorify Me, You Father, with Yourself, with the glory that I had with You before the world existed. BLB. As normal, most of Christianity are deceived and confused with understanding the truth of what Jesus actually meant here in John 17:15 by believing Jesus was teaching He EXISTED WITH GOD before the world existed. Notice how Jesus did NOT say: And now glorify Me, You Father, with Yourself, with the glory that I had with You (WHEN I WAS ALREADY WITH YOU) before the world existed. The obvious facts are: 1. If Jesus is GOD who is WITH GOD as most believe, that equals TWO GODS side by side contradicting the word of GOD who says: I am Yahweh, and there is none else. Besides me, there is no God. WEB. 2. if Jesus is the SAME One True GOD, as most believe, then Jesus could NOT be with His GOD if they are the SAME One True GOD. 3. Jesus said in John 20:17 'I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.'" if Jesus is the SAME One True GOD, as most believe, then how is it possible that Jesus Father is His GOD, when the One True GOD does NOT have a One True GOD above Him? The Correct Meaning: The simple truth is that Jesus is NOT GOD, and Jesus was NOT WITH His GOD before He was born as a MAN in John 1:14. John 17:5: And now glorify Me, You Father, with Yourself, Jesus was praying to His Father that many of the old Testament Bible prophecies would now be fulfilled, as He was near the end of His ministry and was about to be crucified and raised from the dead to be with His Father (in glory) as our High Priest, Advocate and Mediator, where GODS plan would continue since before the world begun, and the Son would receive (glory), which He worked in Christ, having raised Him out from the dead, and having set Him at His right hand in the heavenly realms, Ephesians 1:20 with the glory that I had with You before the world existed. Jesus is simply referring to Himself as the (glory) He had with His Father before He physically existed, and that (glory) was in GODS mind and purpose as the highest in precedence to be the promised Messiah in: the determinate plan and foreknowledge of God, Acts 2:23, He was known before the foundation of the world 1 Peter 1:20. Notice Jesus is for-known in GODS plan, and NOT physically existing. But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, who are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come forth for Me One to be ruler over Israel, whose origins are of old, from the days of eternity. Micah 5:2 Conclusion: Jesus prayed to receive the (Glory) GOD promised before the world existed, before Jesus physically existed, that He would now be WITH His Father and GOD: But from now on the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the power of God.” Luke 22:69, fulfilling Bible prophecies, and to continue with fulfilling the Greatest Bible Prophecy yet to come when Jesus will return as the Prince of Peace with His Father as ONE, as a Father and SON. So also Christ did not glorify Himself to become a high priest, but the One having said to Him: "You are My Son, today I have begotten You." Hebrews 5:5 But this One, having offered one sacrifice for sins in perpetuity, sat down at the right hand of God, Hebrews 10:12 After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, He was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God. Mark 16:19 Therefore indeed the Lord Jesus, after speaking to them, was taken up into the heaven and sat at the right hand of God. Mark 16:19
@@coolgoku810 You 👉Did he not say to honor me is to honor God and isn't worship a part of honoring God. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Me 👇 Correct, as Jesus was appointed by GOD, we are to follow Jesus as the SON OF GOD, NOT as GOD. No where are we told to worship Jesus as GOD Almighty. We are to honer and worship Jesus as the SON OF GOD. To worship Jesus as GOD, is to BREAK the first of the Ten Commandments-"Thou shalt have no other gods before me."[5:7] To believe Jesus is GOD Almighty, is to DENY the Father and the SON and the Christ as written in 1 John 2:22
@@coolgoku810 You 👉The pharisees wanted to kill because he was claiming to be God when he said " before Abraham was, I AM. A reference to exodus chapter 3. ----------------------------------------------------------- Me 👇 John 10:33 The Correct Understanding. The Jews answered Him, "We do not stone You for a good work, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a man, make yourself God." Very sadly millions of Christians are very confused by believing Jesus is GOD, because the rebellious Jews said: because You, being a man, make yourself God." By believing what the rebellious Jews believed that Jesus was making Himself GOD, Christians today are believing the rebellious Jews understood and believed what Jesus taught. And yet, Jesus said that the rebellious Jews DID NOT BELIEVE His teachings, or understand, or believe who Jesus claimed to be. John 10: 6 Jesus used this figure of speech, but the Pharisees did not understand what he was telling them. John 10:1 - 6, This is why: Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, 26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. Simply notice how Jesus did NOT say to the Jews: Yes you are correct I am GOD, but instead Jesus RECTIFIED the Jews by saying: do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, 'You blaspheme,' because I said, 'I am Son of God'? John 10:36 When we believe and teach that Jesus is GOD - when He only ever taught that He was the SON of THE ONE TRUE GOD - we are no better then the Jews, who accused Jesus for something He never claimed, which they RIGHTLY CALLED BLASPHEMY, but wrongly accused Him for BLASPHEMY. ‘You are accusing Jesus of slander, because Jesus NEVER SAID HE WAS GOD, but INSTEAD ONLY EVER said He IS the SON of GOD. John 10:36.
Everything he says trying to align Jesus there but without any historical or Biblical context and chain of story. This way I can too make emotional story building. Give the narration with chain and evidence and if there's not then acknowledge that if you're truthful.
Well if you read the bible, it all leads to the coming of Christ. David, Zechariah, Isiah, all predict the Messiah, and he came in he name Jesus, the living God.
God didn’t flood the world because it was wicked. You make him sound like a maniac. He did it to preserve the bloodlines for Christ. A lot of intermingling going around with angels and humans. Noah was pure of his generation 🧬
It was wrath. God was very angry. . But he showed in that story if you reject him you die. If you believe you live. Noah believed. It was a punishment but a message too
@@grahfkarate1799 the bible says the wages of sin is death. Basically everyone who sinned and hasn't repented and accepted christ is already doomed to die.
@@phantomkingJk you’re missing the point. Sin is here now. Why not do it again. Satan was told that a child will bruise his head. Thus the angle hybrids. It was his plan to ruin the human genome 🧬 so the messiah can’t be born. His plan failed because god saved Noah because “he was pure of his generation” anytime that word is used it’s referring to family history.
what a great conversation. it's been such a long time since I've seen such a respectable man... my heart broke when he said "im only going to one place, the hell one" .
may God bless this man and I will pray that he can welcome Jesus in his life so he can soften he's already softened heart even more because he's already halfway there.
Thank God for courageous and kind evangelists like you, Todd.
God did stick to the moral code He gave us, by sacrificing His son, and not requiring Abraham to. God has fulfilled HIS CODE, and proved He could be perfect AND kill His son.
God killed his Son?
This question has been asked.
Did God kill Jesus ? No.
He gave Jesus...
God didn't fulfill anything that flesh is capable of. Abraham is a man so he thought like a man. But what is from God is God, jesus died because the people of this world are evil, otherwise he wouldn't need to die. He did it for his sheep who hears his voice, if you being evil don't want to have your son killed, how much more God? But he allowed it to happen because everyone has free will.
Jesus sacrificed Himself for the punishment of sin
The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life-only to take it up again. 18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. John 10
Our ancestor, Abraham was asked to offer his son. God stopped him. He was teaching Abraham.
Exactly. Easy answer. It was a test. It's not like it He went through with it. So that man's question wasn't even a debate at all.
"I feel that he (God) should live under the same moral code he expects of us"
Funnily enough that's the same argument children make to their parents - but we all understand, as adults - that's not correct. There is a different standard for parent and child. He is definitionally good, his standards and reasons are beyond our understanding because we're children - and he the parent. What you need to do is just understand that definitionally he's correct and trust.
Doesn't help take his argument that God isn't just seriously when he smirks like a child when he says its not fair.
Massive props to him regardless. I don't mean to be insulting.
Great explanation. I caught when he said that too. And if this man believes there is no God (or that we can't know if there's a God), then I wonder how he works out this mysterious sense of right and wrong we are equipped with.
That was a great video - great explanation. I’m sure that the young fella has turned his life around and now looks forward to spending eternity with our Lord in Heaven.
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The God of the Old Testament is Jesus Christ. He was teaching our Israelite ancestors to love and honor our creator. Then after we dishonored him enough, God divorced us in order to remarry us in the faith of Jesus Christ. He referred to himself as the bridegroom for a reason
Do you believe YHWH was crucified?
@@truefaith1718 Yahweh is self existence. The name of God is Jesus Christ. Acts 2:38
@@mr.renaissancemts
Yahweh is pagan war god who divorced his wife asherah.
God name is Allah which you called Elohim in distorted Hebrew.
Jesus, Moses, David, Solemon all were prophets of one Almighty God.
Holy sprit/ sprit/ sprit of truth is Angel gibrael who connected with humans basically prophets through divine revelation.
@@truefaith1718 your book tells you to look to the scriptures for truth. Allah means strong oak. Or Allah is god in that religion so it's not a name but title.
Very good information explained very well.
This is such a great video, Irving did an excellent job!
Amen, Amen, God bless
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Jesus was a prophet who came after moses.
That's why, old testament didn't include.
@@truefaith1718 you are so wrong
Jesus isn't prophet but GOD
@@ariammogos6866
Then why Jesus prayed to God?
What is the name of His God?
Jesus was always there for.
John 1:1-4
King James Version
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Amen.
Did he listen? God would not make someone do something that he himself would not do.
Awesome
Amen ❤
Isaiah 53.
Our Lord and savior Jesus Christ is in Isiah 9:6 simple amen
No offense to Catholics but they make a big deal about being first, but I see a lot of works based salvation in them. Its not about religion, its about Jesus Himself.
GOD went by many names in the OLD Testament but in the NEW Testament GOD only goes by two names FATHER and SON JESUS CHRIST
1CORITHIANS 8:5-6
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If someone asked me to sacrifice my son, I would have said no, concluded that was a bad God and never obeyed. Why God test Abraham on his moral? Either do the wrong or losing trust. It was unfair and unjust. I still dont get my answers from this conversation.
God knew Abraham's heart and knew he would do anything God asked him to do. Abraham knew If he had to give his son to God, that God would take care of Isiac, who was given to Abraham from God to begin with! When God lets us go through difficult times and difficult decisions, it teaches us to lean into God and rely on Him and strengthens our faith in God.
It's like if your parent's told you to give away a toy to a friend and once you do give you a better on except instead you get to keep the toy and get the better one because you obeyed them
God didn't kill his Son. Mankind killed His Son. God used sinful mankind to save mankind. God in His manifold wisdom used mankinds free will, to do something that mankind could never do... Save himself. Now the freewill of mankind is this. It's easy. Trust in Jesus for his righteous, not your own.
Isaac wasn’t Abraham’s only son though…
But Isaac was the promised son. Isaac was also the son of Sarah
@@eduardocampuzano3805 And notice how it was a miraculous birth kinda like how Jesus’s birth was miraculous
@@bugsbunny2500
You will surely give price in eternity for denying the true monotheism teaching of prophets and followed Paul.
Just like any other prophets,
Jesus prayed to one unseen God.
If you really follow Jesus,
Why you prayed to triniune?
Shouldn't you repent to your one & only true God for having such kind blasphemy that God are an elderly father retired from the responsibility of heaven, a 30 year old beaten by romans and a white dove?
Isaac was monogenes, meaning one of a kind. Same word used in John 3:16, referring to the Son of God that is species unique and above all Elohim. Isaac was one of a kind because he was the fulfillment of Gods promise.
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You wrote
...above all Elohim.
So you blv more than one God?
Psalms 2:12 kiss His Son : (This Son is Jesus Christ),or He will be angry and your way will lead to your destruction.for His wrath can flare up in a moment, Blessed are all who take refuge in Him Proverbs Chapter 8 : The wisdom described is the Lord Jesus. Proverbs 8:35-36 For those who find Me( Jesus)find life and receive favor from the Lord.bur those who fail to find Me harm themselves,all who hate Me love death
This particular one is smart but it's only the first line of explanation. Why do we still need Jesus to be good ppl? If this is all ab claiming smth in His Name like I do this bc Jesus told me so, it's not working - many ppl are almost perfect while not the Christians. How do you become a better person in deeds not words? God's not doing anything for you, you should. What's the hidden message behind the Trinity - beyond behavioral? 😉
Jesus Christ is Adam ❤️🙏
No
He is our savior and creator GOD
@@ariammogos6866
No he isn't.
God who saved the righteous people of Noah is the true saviour of humanity.
Jesus prayed to him during the night of crucifixion.
@@truefaith1718 that was the flesh that prayed. Being an example for us to do. There is no flesh and blood in heaven. After that blood was shed he has took on the fullness of God
This is so obviously immoral and ridiculous to believe.
God flooded the world because he was angry that a 900 year old man and his relatives took 150 years to build a boat and then didnt include penguins on the ark because Noah didn't want to travel up north to get them because he didnt have anything warm to wear and thought the trip would take 40 years and he was already 900 years old by then so he was a little worried about his heart.
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God seems to spend a lot of time very angry. Kind of ridiculous given that he supposedly controls everything. Absurd.
It is not a problem or a contradiction to be both angry and in control at the same time.
@@JV-jq4dt Lol.
"Lol" isnt a good counterargument
@@bennettdaniel7779 To present a counter argument, there has to be something that makes some sort of sense. Unfortunately, that’s not what we’re dealing with here.
@@scrumpymanjack Parents raising their children. The police arresting a criminal. A judge sending a murderer to prison.
John 1:14 The Correct Meaning.
And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.
Notice how John 1:14 DID NOT SAY: And (GOD) became flesh and dwelt among us, as would be the case if John was teaching Jesus is GOD who became flesh, as MOST wrongly believe Jesus is GOD who became flesh.
John 1:14 continues saying: And we beheld His glory, a glory as of an only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Notice Jesus is: an only begotten from the Father, meaning Jesus was BORN and Fathered from His GOD and Father, proving Jesus is NOT the SAME GOD He was Begotten from. To be Begotten means to come into existence, and NOT always existing as most wrongly believe.
John 1:14 is simply saying the (word) of Yahweh became a living, walking, physical MAN, called The Word (OF) God in Revelation 19:13 and Yahweh's Begotten Son.
But when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, HAVING BEEN BORN OF A WOMEN, having been born under the Law, Galatians 4:4.
Notice how Jesus first came into existence by HAVING BEEN BORN OF A WOMEN?
Please notice how we read in Acts 2:22 saying Jesus was a MAN, and nothing about Jesus being GOD, or an Angel, or some kind of Spirit being BEFORE He was BORN:
Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, (A MAN) having been set forth by God to you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by Him in your the midst, as you yourselves know.
Notice in John 8:40 how Jesus Himself confirms He is (A MAN) and says nothing about Himself being GOD, or an Angel, or some kind of Spirit being BEFORE He was BORN:
But now you seek to kill Me, (A MAN) who has spoken to you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do this.
Romans 1:
1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, set apart for the Good News of God, 2 which he promised before through his prophets in the holy Scriptures, 3 concerning his Son, who was born of the seed of David according to the flesh, 4 who was declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the Spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead, Jesus Christ our Lord, 5 through whom we received grace and apostleship, for obedience of faith among all the nations, for his name's sake; 6 among whom you are also called to belong to Jesus Christ;
Notice how Paul tells us that Jesus: was BORN of the seed of David according to the flesh, who was declared to be the Son of God, in line with what Jesus tells us in John 10:36 saying I am the Son of GOD. NOT GOD.
Notice how we do NOT read Paul saying Jesus PRE-EXISTED his flesh before David?
But instead we read Paul saying Jesus comes into existence by the seed of David according to the flesh, in line with John 1:14 saying the word of GOD became FLESH, as the SON of MAN Jesus.
NOWHERE is it written that Jesus was already alive with GOD in heaven and was transformed into the BABY Jesus, unless you are reading the many false modern Bible translations.
If Jesus was WITH GOD before He was BORN as a MAN, then WHAT WAS HE?
Jesus did speak figuratively by saying He came down from Heaven and simply meant He came from GOD as GOD is in heaven, just as Jesus tells us in Matthew 6:9 saying: Therefore pray you like this: 'Our Father (IN THE HEAVENS), hallowed be Your name!
Just as James 1:17 tells us:
Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow.
Jesus is truly a gift from GOD, when we take up our cross and deny ourselves by believing and following the true Jesus, we will be saved: For God so loved the world that (HE GAVE) the only begotten Son, so that everyone believing in Him should not perish, but should have eternal life. John 3:16. BLB.
Notice how we read in John 3:16, how GOD GAVE us His only begotten Son, and yet most have been deceived into believing in a false Gospel teaching GOD came and gave Himself and madly believe died on the cross, when the truth is GOD cannot DIE, when it was GOD's SON who died, NOT GOD, which makes a false Christ.
Did Jesus not say " return to my the glory I had with you Father before creation"
Did he not say to honor me is to honor God and isn't worship a part of honoring God.
The pharisees wanted to kill because he was claiming to be God when he said " before Abraham was, I AM. A reference to exodus chapter 3.
And Jesus did say he is God when the asked before his crucifixion and the priest tore his robes. Jesus claiming to be God is he was killed in the first place
@@coolgoku810 John 17:5 Correct Understanding.
And now glorify Me, You Father, with Yourself, with the glory that I had with You before the world existed. BLB.
As normal, most of Christianity are deceived and confused with understanding the truth of what Jesus actually meant here in John 17:15 by believing Jesus was teaching He EXISTED WITH GOD before the world existed.
Notice how Jesus did NOT say: And now glorify Me, You Father, with Yourself, with the glory that I had with You (WHEN I WAS ALREADY WITH YOU) before the world existed.
The obvious facts are:
1. If Jesus is GOD who is WITH GOD as most believe, that equals TWO GODS side by side contradicting the word of GOD who says:
I am Yahweh, and there is none else. Besides me, there is no God. WEB.
2. if Jesus is the SAME One True GOD, as most believe, then Jesus could NOT be with His GOD if they are the SAME One True GOD.
3. Jesus said in John 20:17 'I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.'"
if Jesus is the SAME One True GOD, as most believe, then how is it possible that Jesus Father is His GOD, when the One True GOD does NOT have a One True GOD above Him?
The Correct Meaning:
The simple truth is that Jesus is NOT GOD, and Jesus was NOT WITH His GOD before He was born as a MAN in John 1:14.
John 17:5: And now glorify Me, You Father, with Yourself,
Jesus was praying to His Father that many of the old Testament Bible prophecies would now be fulfilled, as He was near the end of His ministry and was about to be crucified and raised from the dead to be with His Father (in glory) as our High Priest, Advocate and Mediator, where GODS plan would continue since before the world begun, and the Son would receive (glory), which He worked in Christ, having raised Him out from the dead, and having set Him at His right hand in the heavenly realms, Ephesians 1:20
with the glory that I had with You before the world existed.
Jesus is simply referring to Himself as the (glory) He had with His Father before He physically existed, and that (glory) was in GODS mind and purpose as the highest in precedence to be the promised Messiah in: the determinate plan and foreknowledge of God, Acts 2:23, He was known before the foundation of the world 1 Peter 1:20.
Notice Jesus is for-known in GODS plan, and NOT physically existing.
But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, who are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come forth for Me One to be ruler over Israel, whose origins are of old, from the days of eternity. Micah 5:2
Conclusion:
Jesus prayed to receive the (Glory) GOD promised before the world existed, before Jesus physically existed, that He would now be WITH His Father and GOD: But from now on the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the power of God.” Luke 22:69, fulfilling Bible prophecies, and to continue with fulfilling the Greatest Bible Prophecy yet to come when Jesus will return as the Prince of Peace with His Father as ONE, as a Father and SON.
So also Christ did not glorify Himself to become a high priest, but the One having said to Him: "You are My Son, today I have begotten You."
Hebrews 5:5
But this One, having offered one sacrifice for sins in perpetuity, sat down at the right hand of God, Hebrews 10:12
After the Lord Jesus had spoken to them, He was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God.
Mark 16:19
Therefore indeed the Lord Jesus, after speaking to them, was taken up into the heaven and sat at the right hand of God.
Mark 16:19
@@coolgoku810 You 👉Did he not say to honor me is to honor God and isn't worship a part of honoring God.
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Correct, as Jesus was appointed by GOD, we are to follow Jesus as the SON OF GOD, NOT as GOD.
No where are we told to worship Jesus as GOD Almighty.
We are to honer and worship Jesus as the SON OF GOD.
To worship Jesus as GOD, is to BREAK the first of the Ten Commandments-"Thou shalt have no other gods before me."[5:7]
To believe Jesus is GOD Almighty, is to DENY the Father and the SON and the Christ as written in 1 John 2:22
@@coolgoku810 You 👉The pharisees wanted to kill because he was claiming to be God when he said " before Abraham was, I AM. A reference to exodus chapter 3.
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John 10:33 The Correct Understanding.
The Jews answered Him, "We do not stone You for a good work, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a man, make yourself God."
Very sadly millions of Christians are very confused by believing Jesus is GOD, because the rebellious Jews said: because You, being a man, make yourself God."
By believing what the rebellious Jews believed that Jesus was making Himself GOD, Christians today are believing the rebellious Jews understood and believed what Jesus taught.
And yet, Jesus said that the rebellious Jews DID NOT BELIEVE His teachings, or understand, or believe who Jesus claimed to be.
John 10: 6 Jesus used this figure of speech, but the Pharisees did not understand what he was telling them.
John 10:1 - 6, This is why: Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me, 26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep.
Simply notice how Jesus did NOT say to the Jews: Yes you are correct I am GOD, but instead Jesus RECTIFIED the Jews by saying: do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, 'You blaspheme,' because I said, 'I am Son of God'? John 10:36
When we believe and teach that Jesus is GOD - when He only ever taught that He was the SON of THE ONE TRUE GOD - we are no better then the Jews, who accused Jesus for something He never claimed, which they RIGHTLY CALLED BLASPHEMY, but wrongly accused Him for BLASPHEMY.
‘You are accusing Jesus of slander, because Jesus NEVER SAID HE WAS GOD, but INSTEAD ONLY EVER said He IS the SON of GOD. John 10:36.
Everything he says trying to align Jesus there but without any historical or Biblical context and chain of story.
This way I can too make emotional story building. Give the narration with chain and evidence and if there's not then acknowledge that if you're truthful.
Well if you read the bible, it all leads to the coming of Christ. David, Zechariah, Isiah, all predict the Messiah, and he came in he name Jesus, the living God.
God didn’t flood the world because it was wicked. You make him sound like a maniac. He did it to preserve the bloodlines for Christ. A lot of intermingling going around with angels and humans. Noah was pure of his generation 🧬
It was wrath. God was very angry. .
But he showed in that story if you reject him you die. If you believe you live. Noah believed. It was a punishment but a message too
@@phantomkingJk if god killed everyone because of sin is he sleeping now or something? It makes god seem like a maniac.
@@grahfkarate1799 the bible says the wages of sin is death. Basically everyone who sinned and hasn't repented and accepted christ is already doomed to die.
@@grahfkarate1799 also he promised to never flood the earth again with rain . Causing mass death
@@phantomkingJk you’re missing the point. Sin is here now. Why not do it again. Satan was told that a child will bruise his head. Thus the angle hybrids. It was his plan to ruin the human genome 🧬 so the messiah can’t be born. His plan failed because god saved Noah because “he was pure of his generation” anytime that word is used it’s referring to family history.