Thanks for this excellent test in poor conditions. I'm going to buy one of these tents, all reports I've seen on them support the view that they are very reliable in all realistically encounterable UK conditions.
Great video, I use the Rakoon 2.1 and I love it, I use double poles since it gets a bit scary in the winds, double poling makes most modern tents almost bomb proof. Hope that helps other campers.
People seem to like these side-entry tents, but you can't keep the door open in the rain and you don't get enough shelter to cook in the wind. A traditional A-frame with a decent vestibule at the front is a bit less liveable in good weather, but works much better in nasty conditions.
So….I have done my homework on lightweight tents before buying one. Was really looking at the vango Nevis as a real choice, and was fascinated by the decathlon MT900 with the built in vestibule flooring….but just had a spir of the moment visit to gooutdoor and seen this tent. Light weight 2.1kg 5000 HH flysheet And with the Gooutdoor membership £67! I can’t see anything wrong with that for the money! I’ll be taking it out and giving it a try, I’ll try get back and give some feedback. Wish me luck 😅
Great vid. How many of the 16 included pegs do you think you really need? Looking to replace the pegs with some lightweight ones which come in a 6 pack, so wondering if I can get away with 12, or if I'd need to get a 3rd pack.
I went through a stage of trying to wild camp and go scrambling and film for my TH-cam channel all at the same time but I ended up with so much heavy gear in my bag (inc drones, GoPro, batteries, sticks etc) it was more hard work than fun! The Rab Ascent 900 was warm in the winter but I struggled with the mummy shape a bit. The Berghaus Transition was fine for summer camps but too heavy and bulky for wild camping. I haven't tried any others recently as I'm leaning towards campsites rather than wild camping atm. Best.
I had to lower the guy ropes so the outside flap wasn't so high and that helped but when my feet were up against that large vent, I could certainly feel the cold. It wasn't so bad in the latter half of the night as the wind eased off. Next time I camp in wind/cold, I'll probably take a pair of thick wooly socks.
There’s nothing like a nice quiet wild camp...and that was nothing like a quiet camp! 😂 well done for sticking it out in that wind. I use a cloud peak 2, it’s just over 2kg but plenty of room, and it’s got two good size vestibules. I’m 6’4 so need the space. 👍
Thanks, it was quite a night! I looked at the Cloud Peak before as it's freestanding I think, and would be better on rocky ground. I defo need a bigger vestibule area for my bag. The Phoxx 2 is totally reliant on the guy ropes to keep it up; I spent ages looking around for a nice spot with soil to get the pegs stuck in. I might do some more wild camps, it doesn't make sense coming off the mountain, just to drive to a campsite and then drive back the following morning. I was even thinking about stashing a bag with the tent, food, sleeping bag etc so I don't have to carry it around all day.
@@thebaldscrambler that’s one of the things I like about the cloud peak, you can move it around after it’s pitched. Stashing a bag is a good idea, but needs to be a remote area. Leave a note on it in case someone finds it and thinks someone is in trouble. You might get back to it and find mountain rescue have been looking for you all day! 😂😂👍
Those flameless heater packs are worth carrying in this scenario of too windy to use a gas stove. They take up very little room and weigh a couple of ounces.
Well I walked up to stickle tarn in similar conditions to this, when I found a suitable spot, I took tent out and realised I picked up the phoxx 1, not 2 in my rush to get out the house. Used the flameless heater though, very uncomfortable experience as eating it in the tent meant I was lying on my side to eat. I mean yeah sure the Romans ate like that and all. it did reinforce however, the phoxx 1 is not for me.
That's a really small tent. Yes, both have a low profile, good for stealth but not the best for eating/sitting up, I could just about sit up in the Phoxx 2 but my head was rubbing on the roof, (I'm 6ft2). I just did another night, this time on Pen Yr Ole We, not a bad night's sleep but with the usual issues I have as a side sleeper on a thin air mattress.@@Outdoorshuntingshooting
Yes, as the path levels off above the DK area, you'll see a huge rock to your right with flat grass in front of it, it's very popular with wild campers as it offers shelter from the wind that can really whip up. Wild Beare also camped there - th-cam.com/video/9WvGkqaa-0I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QPd3GXd7L11FM2sW&t=408
@@thebaldscrambler No, the Cobra 2 is ~2.3 kg acording to the multiple websites Iäve checked. But yeah, it seems like a really pleasant tent, that (but the Phoxx 2 punches above its price range, though!).
I know we don’t normally cook indoors but I’d of probably cracked open both sides at the top and cooked just the once in there. As long as there’s good ventilation which it looked like you had in abundance then I’d of risked it for a hot meal
Thanks. I've got a couple more 2-man tents to test, so just waiting for some appropriate weather to put them to the test and I'll have a couple more videos to put out.
The weather forecast was for 40mph winds and gusts up to 55mph but the tent has a fairly low profile so much of it blew over it. I have another tent which is much taller and I doubt it would have survived the night as it was really howling, the footage doesn't really show how windy it was.
@@thebaldscrambler thank you for explaining, I appreciate that :) I have the Phoxx and I’m eager to go further than woodland camping now so I was wondering what it can take :) It’s a brilliant tent, I’ve just not put it though it’s paces like you seem to have 😂😊
What on earth is the point of going out in weather like that. What on earth would you find to do ? If you weren't occupying your self filming wheres the fun in laying there for hours eating lying down and unable to cook. ?
Well, obviously the purpose of the video is to test the tent in adverse weather so buyers can see its limitations. I did state that at the start of the video...
@@thebaldscrambler I get that thank you but in general I get the being g on your own but people going up mountains and putting themselves and rescue services at risk is a serious issue. Father and son in Scotland recently. One Slip and a go pro. Cant help.you. 😞
For me, i cant always predict the weather sometimes its glorious for days, then all of a sudden your circumstances change, those uneducated folk are the ones getting into trouble, know your surroundings and know your limitations.
A good stress test for the Phoxx 2 - I have it and it’s a great tent!
For the price, I think it's good value. It held up better than I expected.
Thanks for this excellent test in poor conditions. I'm going to buy one of these tents, all reports I've seen on them support the view that they are very reliable in all realistically encounterable UK conditions.
Great video, I use the Rakoon 2.1 and I love it, I use double poles since it gets a bit scary in the winds, double poling makes most modern tents almost bomb proof. Hope that helps other campers.
Before i get to far into this video, i have had this tent in 50mph wind and sideways rain, it withstood everything, i love it :D
It's very robust, I've now done 4 wild camps on rough ground and it's been fine, no issues to report. I just wish it was a kilo lighter!
Ah, my neck of the woods! Hiraeth!
I take my Phox 2 there regularly.
Thanks for confirming my decision to by this tent before seeing this video 😂
same!
People seem to like these side-entry tents, but you can't keep the door open in the rain and you don't get enough shelter to cook in the wind. A traditional A-frame with a decent vestibule at the front is a bit less liveable in good weather, but works much better in nasty conditions.
Have a look at the Hyena 2. Weighs 3kg but picked one up for 52 quid. Fiberglass poles could probably be replaced with Ali poles.
So….I have done my homework on lightweight tents before buying one. Was really looking at the vango Nevis as a real choice, and was fascinated by the decathlon MT900 with the built in vestibule flooring….but just had a spir of the moment visit to gooutdoor and seen this tent.
Light weight 2.1kg
5000 HH flysheet
And with the Gooutdoor membership £67!
I can’t see anything wrong with that for the money!
I’ll be taking it out and giving it a try, I’ll try get back and give some feedback.
Wish me luck 😅
Great vid. How many of the 16 included pegs do you think you really need? Looking to replace the pegs with some lightweight ones which come in a 6 pack, so wondering if I can get away with 12, or if I'd need to get a 3rd pack.
Great video, bad enough going out in that weather never mind camping in it, what kind of sleeping bag do you reccommend
I went through a stage of trying to wild camp and go scrambling and film for my TH-cam channel all at the same time but I ended up with so much heavy gear in my bag (inc drones, GoPro, batteries, sticks etc) it was more hard work than fun! The Rab Ascent 900 was warm in the winter but I struggled with the mummy shape a bit. The Berghaus Transition was fine for summer camps but too heavy and bulky for wild camping. I haven't tried any others recently as I'm leaning towards campsites rather than wild camping atm. Best.
@ nice one. Cheers
Brilliant video can’t wait to get out in my phoxx 2. Just worried about my feet being cold as I’m 6,1 😂. I wonder if you can mod that bottom vent
I had to lower the guy ropes so the outside flap wasn't so high and that helped but when my feet were up against that large vent, I could certainly feel the cold. It wasn't so bad in the latter half of the night as the wind eased off. Next time I camp in wind/cold, I'll probably take a pair of thick wooly socks.
@@thebaldscrambler Or a hot water bottle lmao
Down socks....
There’s nothing like a nice quiet wild camp...and that was nothing like a quiet camp! 😂 well done for sticking it out in that wind. I use a cloud peak 2, it’s just over 2kg but plenty of room, and it’s got two good size vestibules. I’m 6’4 so need the space. 👍
Thanks, it was quite a night! I looked at the Cloud Peak before as it's freestanding I think, and would be better on rocky ground. I defo need a bigger vestibule area for my bag. The Phoxx 2 is totally reliant on the guy ropes to keep it up; I spent ages looking around for a nice spot with soil to get the pegs stuck in. I might do some more wild camps, it doesn't make sense coming off the mountain, just to drive to a campsite and then drive back the following morning. I was even thinking about stashing a bag with the tent, food, sleeping bag etc so I don't have to carry it around all day.
@@thebaldscrambler that’s one of the things I like about the cloud peak, you can move it around after it’s pitched. Stashing a bag is a good idea, but needs to be a remote area. Leave a note on it in case someone finds it and thinks someone is in trouble. You might get back to it and find mountain rescue have been looking for you all day! 😂😂👍
I'll let you know how I get on... (queue the video of me making my off the mountain in the dark moaning about ppl stealing my tent.) ;-).
@@thebaldscrambler 😄😄
Thank you for your wonderful video :)
Debating getting hold of one of these at the moment , if it werent for the vestibule space i would've got it already
Those flameless heater packs are worth carrying in this scenario of too windy to use a gas stove. They take up very little room and weigh a couple of ounces.
Yes, good shout.
@@thebaldscrambler i am off for a walk and overnighter this weekend, langdale, taking the phoxx 2, and some mre's. cannot wait.
Well I walked up to stickle tarn in similar conditions to this, when I found a suitable spot, I took tent out and realised I picked up the phoxx 1, not 2 in my rush to get out the house. Used the flameless heater though, very uncomfortable experience as eating it in the tent meant I was lying on my side to eat. I mean yeah sure the Romans ate like that and all. it did reinforce however, the phoxx 1 is not for me.
That's a really small tent. Yes, both have a low profile, good for stealth but not the best for eating/sitting up, I could just about sit up in the Phoxx 2 but my head was rubbing on the roof, (I'm 6ft2). I just did another night, this time on Pen Yr Ole We, not a bad night's sleep but with the usual issues I have as a side sleeper on a thin air mattress.@@Outdoorshuntingshooting
Was that at the top of the Devils Kitchen? I fancy a camp near that tarn. Llyn y cwn? And I have the phoxx 2 myself.
Yes, as the path levels off above the DK area, you'll see a huge rock to your right with flat grass in front of it, it's very popular with wild campers as it offers shelter from the wind that can really whip up. Wild Beare also camped there - th-cam.com/video/9WvGkqaa-0I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=QPd3GXd7L11FM2sW&t=408
Wow windy strong
Just a little bit :-)
I had this but changed it for the Coleman Cobra 2, in my opinion this is a different class, better in every way than the Phoxx
Cobra 2 looks more spacious but heavier too, according to the website; 4.3 kg if that's right? That's a heavy beast.
@@thebaldscrambler No, the Cobra 2 is ~2.3 kg acording to the multiple websites Iäve checked. But yeah, it seems like a really pleasant tent, that (but the Phoxx 2 punches above its price range, though!).
I know we don’t normally cook indoors but I’d of probably cracked open both sides at the top and cooked just the once in there. As long as there’s good ventilation which it looked like you had in abundance then I’d of risked it for a hot meal
Yeah, I'm overly cautious in small tents. Would be nice if the vestibule was just a tadge bigger though.
Great review. Shows the limitations in dire weather. Not for me.
Thanks. I've got a couple more 2-man tents to test, so just waiting for some appropriate weather to put them to the test and I'll have a couple more videos to put out.
How strong were the winds?
The weather forecast was for 40mph winds and gusts up to 55mph but the tent has a fairly low profile so much of it blew over it. I have another tent which is much taller and I doubt it would have survived the night as it was really howling, the footage doesn't really show how windy it was.
@@thebaldscrambler thank you for explaining, I appreciate that :) I have the Phoxx and I’m eager to go further than woodland camping now so I was wondering what it can take :) It’s a brilliant tent, I’ve just not put it though it’s paces like you seem to have 😂😊
Did you have all the guys lines attached?
Think this tent is ideal for stealing camping
Not big enough for me, would suit a small guy though.
What on earth is the point of going out in weather like that. What on earth would you find to do ? If you weren't occupying your self filming wheres the fun in laying there for hours eating lying down and unable to cook. ?
Well, obviously the purpose of the video is to test the tent in adverse weather so buyers can see its limitations. I did state that at the start of the video...
@@thebaldscrambler I get that thank you but in general I get the being g on your own but people going up mountains and putting themselves and rescue services at risk is a serious issue. Father and son in Scotland recently. One Slip and a go pro. Cant help.you. 😞
For me, i cant always predict the weather sometimes its glorious for days, then all of a sudden your circumstances change, those uneducated folk are the ones getting into trouble, know your surroundings and know your limitations.