I already watched another guide and have been following Reddit but I watched this whole thing because Datto is just so easy to listen to. You're very good at this, dude.
Really enjoyed the hard raid. Was a lot of fun with the additional challenges and feels like a full blown raid experience. Wish the light had been 400 though for a bit harder of a time.
the trick for disabling mines we do is have someone (me) stay back near the engine, and as soon as the parts spawn work on killing the mines from the engine towards the team, while my teammates hung back and took out skiff turrets (in turn avoiding OHKO shock mines that spawn from the skiffs). since the skiffs activate some of the further back mines none were left while moving the parts and it was quite safe. 3 ended up dying right at the end but still we managed to get it done first try in 4:59, whereas every other part needed quite a few tries (still havent finished aksis)
Always appreciate your input on all things Destiny homie. Keep the vids coming. You do a great job of imparting the information in a clear and concise manner. Thumbs Up!
In the door opening phase (at least in normal) if you take a long time (REALLY LONG) the encounter will restart; meaning ads instant die and Vosik leave and when you start the encounter again (through charging Voltage, and not by going to orbit) Vosik will be full health.
Turner Welborn The nightfall wasn't even that hard lmao. My team just used a glitch spot where the The fire one can't hurt you. We just did damage to him, cleared ads, then damaged him again, and the blue one can't hurt you from the glitch spot.
I was thinking that they were going to introduce the Iron Lord battle Axes in the raid, to maybe destroy captain shields or just to damage, I was also thinking that they were going to strategically place a special fallen walker on the far side where the parts fall after you pick them up and get so far, you know, run from the Walker and avoid it, and then ramming it with the siege machine as you need to disable the special walkers cannons so that it doesn't destroy the Death Zamboni
Datto, On the seige engine my team got 3 :51 as a finishing time. We did this by, stunning the walker (opens core) and getting all the parts in this time.
Yea that Vosik fight took the longest for my group. Tbh, Aksis was the easiest out of all the encounters since it only took 2 tries for part 1 and 3 for part 2. Overall we had a 4 hour run.
I don't want to be that guy, but the Fallen drop ships are called Skiffs. Ketches are the big flagships. Regardless, this was a very helpful video. Keep it up, Datto!
Hey datto, can you compare all raid exotic weapons(vex mythoclast touch of malice, necrocasum, and outbreak prime( assuming all of which where I'm their prime.(before they got frontier by a new dlc
Bungie should make that extra door (where the 4th monitor is) accessible through some sort of sequence in the raid. Get this, then behind the door is a chest to start a year 3 Vex Mythoclast quest. The quest involves beating every single raid on heroic and it drops at 400 light. Also, the element is random. To me this would be the ultimate nostalgia leaving with the legacy Destiny.
Vosik is by far the most difficult section. Once we beat that, we thought the rest was going to take forever - we blew through the rest without wiping. Lol.
I found HM insanely hard and now I'm finding NM insanely easy. Im 388 light, i really think thats more of a balancing issue, the boss and mechanics are fine, its the damage and health of the adds thats are making the biggest change for me.
Datto.. I know it might sound dumb but I think you should test the touch of malice for damage on Aksis phase 2. I know they patched the blessings glitch or whatever, but you don't take any damage while fighting the boss on wave 2. I feel like mixing weapons with a tether could end up in a lot of damage and when your health is low, just switch to a sniper while you regain health. Also, aksis switching spots gives you time to regen.. Just a thought
Datto, you need to damage test the raid machine gun, IF MATERIA~ against your previous heavy damage tests. I just ran hard mode and did 1 million more damage to Aksis than people using dark drinker. Not controlled settings, but REALLY effective nonetheless.
Yeah that Walker's health bar is glitchy. Or the tank itself is. It seems like it has an oryx chest-like damage component, where you just have to keep high impact damage on the core
With our raid group we through 3 sets of bombs on vosik and we did over damage on his shield and actually started doing health damage with them. Don't know if bugged out but it seemed like we only needed 15 and not 18.
Lol nice. We killed the walker and got 4:50. This was our very first attempt, and one of our guys died right at the beginning too, so definitely room for improvement.
nlc369 what were the weapons you guys used and what light were you? Just asking so when I do it, I can have a general idea of how much harder the walker makes it. :)
hey Datto, idk if anyone suggested this already but whenever your up for it you should do Radegast's challenge, which is to wear memory of radegast (disabling supers in exchange for extra grenades and melee charges) and to beat wrath of the machine :)
Adam Joaquim radegast is sword ammo and it reflects projectiles. you're right about not being silimar. felwinter is the one that takes your super and gives two grenade and melee charges.
Last Bastion Ik just said that, not my fault I associate radegast as the most diehard Lord so whenever I think of the lack of super but more grenades reminds me of radegast cuz he probably would do have something like that
Datto pls do raid machine gun. I put in approximate calculations from shooting into an excel sheet and I think you'd be surprised at how good it actually is.
Datto you're doing it wrong. Empowerment gives a speed boost. Knowing this this is how the encounter is best done. 3 people with swords 3 people with gjalahorn or sleeper or snipers. 1 of each are on each side. 1 person is allocated from each side to swap Once empowerment has happened you call out what sides are empowered If 2 people on one side are empowered you kill your captains and the swap with the side that doesn't have an empowered. Empowered take cannons and go around killing servitors and then stay on the side that they kill there last servitor. Non-empowered people call out servitors and throw bombs. Cannons are then taken to middle by non-empowered while middle empowered covers back and sides cover their side and middle.(can add in supercharging) After slam snipe and reassign empowered to every open side. Repeat for second slam. Third slam sword people go and sword his legs with a weapons bubble and tether while cannons are used by the other three. Repeat until dead. This is no meant as an insult but the speed boost works much like the voltage at the start and gives a significant advantage for killing servitors. Thanks for reading and I hope you catch on with the proper easier way to do it.
I'm not sure if anyones commented or if its been mentioned. But how did the walker instantly die in the one clip? I'm sorry if I'm completely missing something
Kiran K ahh thats what id assume. although maybe there was a mechanic I was unaware of. So I was wondering if I needed to do something specific to have it dealt with
GUYS QUICK QUESTION ANSWER FAST: for the out break prime on the math part does everyone need the quest and does it have to be hunter+warlock+Titan to do the math part
I would guess you've tried rotating your friend to see if they do better in different lanes? If so do you have two Titans? Try putting that friend with a blessings Titan. My favorite idea of course is make them play crucible for a while. Since players can be unpredictable it helps to sharpen your reflexes and increases your awareness of surroundings.
You're wrong about Visik. The first charge does little to no damage to the shield. Only the other charges do damage to his shield. Which means the 5 charges you throw do the same damage as the 2 on Normal...
Sharles Davis Kendy the first one allows the other ones to do high damage. I found the charges to do more DMG then in normal but Vosik has more Health now
EnterTheKyuubi What makes you think that in Destiny 2 they're going to have Cabal to begin with? They'll probably want to have something refreshing so people don't scream about copy/pasting, and even IF they made an appearance in Destiny 2 what makes you think they would want to make a raid for a faction that we've already got our fill of?
Anonimoose A. Because if you were invested in the lore, you'd know that the Cabal we're fighting is only a fraction of their galactic empire, and we just killed a few of their high ranking commanders and soldiers. You think they're going to sit back and NOT retaliate?
I've been trying to get all the hard mode raid gear for Wrath of the Machine and I only have the gloves chest and cloak. Still looking for helmet and legs.
my team and i didnt kill the walker we just had 3 people shooting it while the others grabbed the parts and hopefully he would focus on the people shooting it and then we would switch and we also tryed shooting one of its legs and carried the parts while he was down and we finished the encounter with 5:03 minutes
we didnt know we would have more time so we figured we wouldnt have time to kill him and though is not a very elaborate way of doing it it is still very effective
we simply killed it, and even with 3 dead after that (no clue what happened, probably captains getting a bit too close for comfort) we did it in 4:59 on the first run surprisingly enough. didnt even know about the walker so it caught us off guard
I'm 390 and I want to help my friend trough normal mode. Once it is finished and I get 385 loot from the raid when I then play the hard mode will I still get loot?
when you said all 6 need to grab the bombs on vosik you are wrong you dont need all 6 to get all the bombs just grab as many as you can safely a min of 3 and then throw and that will be plenty might take you more rotations but being safe is key in hard mode
SKIFF, not Ketch. My bad. 3am editing!
Was slowly going insane from that, thank you for noticing Datto
Datto what system do you play destiny on?
IcetheHedgehog PS4 last time I checked.
reply and u will win the lottery
Datto man this music is so nostalgic
I already watched another guide and have been following Reddit but I watched this whole thing because Datto is just so easy to listen to. You're very good at this, dude.
I think if a ketch was coming down above the wall, we'd have *much* more of a problem!
And Oryx, what the hell.
James Vincent bungie- "you know how we can make this part HEROIC? Let's make all the skiffs ketches!"
Bruh this man datto is the best, most reliable destiny youtube channel. Keep up the work man . You help us guardians out so much.
"I'm gonna go disable the min- never mind I'm never staying there ever again" OMG DATTO HAHAHA IM DIEING! Any ways good job all ways :)!
*dying
Sorry, I'm trash at spelling :/.
Thank God no one can complain about not being able to snipe a fucking Knight again...
They'll find something else to fuck up. For instance, the Servitors.
shanks are very dangerous if you're low light/not paying attention. or both
Really enjoyed the hard raid. Was a lot of fun with the additional challenges and feels like a full blown raid experience. Wish the light had been 400 though for a bit harder of a time.
YOU BROUGHT BACK THE OLD MUSIC!!! Low key tho, you da best ;)
the trick for disabling mines we do is have someone (me) stay back near the engine, and as soon as the parts spawn work on killing the mines from the engine towards the team, while my teammates hung back and took out skiff turrets (in turn avoiding OHKO shock mines that spawn from the skiffs). since the skiffs activate some of the further back mines none were left while moving the parts and it was quite safe. 3 ended up dying right at the end but still we managed to get it done first try in 4:59, whereas every other part needed quite a few tries (still havent finished aksis)
Always appreciate your input on all things Destiny homie. Keep the vids coming. You do a great job of imparting the information in a clear and concise manner. Thumbs Up!
In the door opening phase (at least in normal) if you take a long time (REALLY LONG) the encounter will restart; meaning ads instant die and Vosik leave and when you start the encounter again (through charging Voltage, and not by going to orbit) Vosik will be full health.
best destiny you tuber by far. Enjoy all your vids. keep them coming.
this week's nightfall is harder than hard mode raid lol
Turner Welborn true hahaha
Just stand in that one high spot along the wall and focus adds. The brothers won't even be able to hit you.
Turner Welborn don't tell me the nightfall has solar burn
Turner Welborn i fucking hate the nightfall dude hahahaha
Turner Welborn The nightfall wasn't even that hard lmao. My team just used a glitch spot where the The fire one can't hurt you. We just did damage to him, cleared ads, then damaged him again, and the blue one can't hurt you from the glitch spot.
Thanks Datto ur guides are always the best!
Can't wait to see how easy "challenge" mode will be.
perfected walker strat. break leg. walk by. profit.
Turner Welborn Perfect Walker Strat- taking 15 seconds to kill the walker with no threat of anyone on your team dying a causing a wipe
Turner Welborn yup that's what my team did it worked great with no problem
Great vid dude!
Hey Datto, great video man.
I was thinking that they were going to introduce the Iron Lord battle Axes in the raid, to maybe destroy captain shields or just to damage, I was also thinking that they were going to strategically place a special fallen walker on the far side where the parts fall after you pick them up and get so far, you know, run from the Walker and avoid it, and then ramming it with the siege machine as you need to disable the special walkers cannons so that it doesn't destroy the Death Zamboni
Datto, On the seige engine my team got 3 :51 as a finishing time.
We did this by, stunning the walker (opens core) and getting all the parts in this time.
Tanveer Alam lol did you even kill the walker or did you just skip it xD
Jack Sparrow you don't have to kill walker. just repair engine.
Yea that Vosik fight took the longest for my group. Tbh, Aksis was the easiest out of all the encounters since it only took 2 tries for part 1 and 3 for part 2. Overall we had a 4 hour run.
Great video Datto
Datto, can you use the two spare siva bombs to damage aksis or do they disappear?
I don't want to be that guy, but the Fallen drop ships are called Skiffs.
Ketches are the big flagships.
Regardless, this was a very helpful video. Keep it up, Datto!
Thanks for the guide daddy datto
Hey datto, can you compare all raid exotic weapons(vex mythoclast touch of malice, necrocasum, and outbreak prime( assuming all of which where I'm their prime.(before they got frontier by a new dlc
The heavy machine gun is so helpful
Bungie should make that extra door (where the 4th monitor is) accessible through some sort of sequence in the raid. Get this, then behind the door is a chest to start a year 3 Vex Mythoclast quest. The quest involves beating every single raid on heroic and it drops at 400 light. Also, the element is random. To me this would be the ultimate nostalgia leaving with the legacy Destiny.
datto has been here even before destiny released on day 1. most people dont know that because datto himself is a relatively small channel
Vosik is by far the most difficult section. Once we beat that, we thought the rest was going to take forever - we blew through the rest without wiping. Lol.
Ya Vosik was the hardiest for my group too. Aksis was the easiest for us as long as we remembered to kill the turrets :3
I found HM insanely hard and now I'm finding NM insanely easy. Im 388 light, i really think thats more of a balancing issue, the boss and mechanics are fine, its the damage and health of the adds thats are making the biggest change for me.
burns0100 eyy boss can I habe u in fire team plox.b0$$
Pybread The PyroMancer You know your grammars bad when TH-cam gives you a Translate button...
Datto.. I know it might sound dumb but I think you should test the touch of malice for damage on Aksis phase 2. I know they patched the blessings glitch or whatever, but you don't take any damage while fighting the boss on wave 2. I feel like mixing weapons with a tether could end up in a lot of damage and when your health is low, just switch to a sniper while you regain health. Also, aksis switching spots gives you time to regen.. Just a thought
Datto, you need to damage test the raid machine gun, IF MATERIA~ against your previous heavy damage tests. I just ran hard mode and did 1 million more damage to Aksis than people using dark drinker. Not controlled settings, but REALLY effective nonetheless.
Great Guide
Datto! Time to do more dps tests with the new raid weapons
Yeah that Walker's health bar is glitchy. Or the tank itself is. It seems like it has an oryx chest-like damage component, where you just have to keep high impact damage on the core
With our raid group we through 3 sets of bombs on vosik and we did over damage on his shield and actually started doing health damage with them. Don't know if bugged out but it seemed like we only needed 15 and not 18.
our firteam disabled the legs and strolled by. suprisingly, finished under the 6 min mark too. 4.44.
Lol nice. We killed the walker and got 4:50. This was our very first attempt, and one of our guys died right at the beginning too, so definitely room for improvement.
nlc369 what were the weapons you guys used and what light were you? Just asking so when I do it, I can have a general idea of how much harder the walker makes it. :)
Thanks for the help dad
In the first encounter in the raid you can bring all the voltage to the same machine and you will done it way faster
They aren't called "ketches" at the Siege Engine. They are the "skiffs". Ketches are the giant ships.
About time!!!
hey Datto, idk if anyone suggested this already but whenever your up for it you should do Radegast's challenge, which is to wear memory of radegast (disabling supers in exchange for extra grenades and melee charges) and to beat wrath of the machine :)
Adam Joaquim that's not radegast's artifact. I think that's silimar.
Last Bastion no similar is different, it is radegast I promise. I'm wearing right now
NvmLast Bastion its felwinter. I mix them up they are both badass grimoire wise. Still not similar
Adam Joaquim radegast is sword ammo and it reflects projectiles. you're right about not being silimar. felwinter is the one that takes your super and gives two grenade and melee charges.
Last Bastion Ik just said that, not my fault I associate radegast as the most diehard Lord so whenever I think of the lack of super but more grenades reminds me of radegast cuz he probably would do have something like that
Thanks!
Datto pls do raid machine gun. I put in approximate calculations from shooting into an excel sheet and I think you'd be surprised at how good it actually is.
Datto, what are you using in your heavy slot while using your Outbreak Prime?
Hey datto, would you mind checking the damage of the raid machine gun? IMHO it's a viable option for vosik and even more for Aksis
So basically if you can beat vosik you can beat the raid. That's good to know.
Wat place did u come in completing the heroic mode raid Datto
Are you going to do a dps test on the new sniper?
Datto, do a dps test between the following.
No time to Explain vs Outbreak Prime
No time to Explain vs Chaos Dogma
SGA vs Raid LMG
hey datto what about testin out 'no time to explain' in wrath of the machine??
I'm reading that there are two loot chests now, are they next to each other? Can folks distinguish the Hard-Mode chest from the Normal one?
Nice video
Datto you're doing it wrong. Empowerment gives a speed boost. Knowing this this is how the encounter is best done.
3 people with swords 3 people with gjalahorn or sleeper or snipers.
1 of each are on each side.
1 person is allocated from each side to swap
Once empowerment has happened you call out what sides are empowered
If 2 people on one side are empowered you kill your captains and the swap with the side that doesn't have an empowered.
Empowered take cannons and go around killing servitors and then stay on the side that they kill there last servitor.
Non-empowered people call out servitors and throw bombs.
Cannons are then taken to middle by non-empowered while middle empowered covers back and sides cover their side and middle.(can add in supercharging)
After slam snipe and reassign empowered to every open side.
Repeat for second slam.
Third slam sword people go and sword his legs with a weapons bubble and tether while cannons are used by the other three.
Repeat until dead.
This is no meant as an insult but the speed boost works much like the voltage at the start and gives a significant advantage for killing servitors. Thanks for reading and I hope you catch on with the proper easier way to do it.
Siva charges must be thrown simultaneously to deal a great damage, or not?
I'm not sure if anyones commented or if its been mentioned. But how did the walker instantly die in the one clip? I'm sorry if I'm completely missing something
they shot him down but datto only showed the part in which it died
it's glitched i assume, my group did a bunch of damage and it didn't take any damage, bout few seconds later, the walker was at half health
Pixelary it's a visual glitch in which it incorrectly displays the health of the walker
Kiran K ahh thats what id assume. although maybe there was a mechanic I was unaware of. So I was wondering if I needed to do something specific to have it dealt with
What weapon should I use for the HM raid?
Outbreak Prime or Gjallarhorn
Will you do a thorn review
Song in background is first to last Gunnar Olsen
GUYS QUICK QUESTION ANSWER FAST: for the out break prime on the math part does everyone need the quest and does it have to be hunter+warlock+Titan to do the math part
do you have to complete normal mode first or can you go straight to heroic
one of my friends keepa dying at vosik what should i do to him
Sacrifice him to the bungie RNG gods
Good idea thanks
I would guess you've tried rotating your friend to see if they do better in different lanes? If so do you have two Titans? Try putting that friend with a blessings Titan. My favorite idea of course is make them play crucible for a while. Since players can be unpredictable it helps to sharpen your reflexes and increases your awareness of surroundings.
Hey datto. Nice shirt.
Where'd u get it
Should I use outbreak prime or gjallarhorn for aksis damage?
You're wrong about Visik.
The first charge does little to no damage to the shield. Only the other charges do damage to his shield. Which means the 5 charges you throw do the same damage as the 2 on Normal...
Sharles Davis Kendy the first one allows the other ones to do high damage. I found the charges to do more DMG then in normal but Vosik has more Health now
Sharles Davis Kendy
Hungry Hippo What I'm saying is that it's not a 1:2 ratio like Datto said.
The orbs don't do half damage. They don't do half RELATIVE damage either...
Sharles Davis Kendy yeah i see what ur saying
I pray the Cabal Raid is epic and difficult af.
What Cabal raid? This is the last expansion.
Anonimoose A. So we're not gonna have raids in Destiny 2? lol
EnterTheKyuubi What makes you think that in Destiny 2 they're going to have Cabal to begin with? They'll probably want to have something refreshing so people don't scream about copy/pasting, and even IF they made an appearance in Destiny 2 what makes you think they would want to make a raid for a faction that we've already got our fill of?
Anonimoose A. Because if you were invested in the lore, you'd know that the Cabal we're fighting is only a fraction of their galactic empire, and we just killed a few of their high ranking commanders and soldiers. You think they're going to sit back and NOT retaliate?
Anonimoose A. And to note, the Cabal are the only race that we fight that hasn't had a raid. Every other race has. Therefore it'd be fresh regardless.
Is there an updated loot table yet?
Good guide :)
Is it possible to get normal mode weapons in the hard mode ?
Smith. N Thank you :)
Smith. N Thanks for the info.
Smith. N thanks for the info appreciate it
Smith. N thanks for the info appreciate it
peice of the advise if you are using a warlock use transverse steps in the siege engine and crouch you will walk faster than normal just saying
Semoske Games hunters can do the same
Username well there we go now that 2 out of 3 classes that can move quickly with the parts
Semoske Games and a hunter can use keen scout. Titans are out of luck to my knowledge though
CAhockeydude dunemarcher
CAhockeydude don't they work?
What gauntlets are you using
Do you really need outbreak prime as I don't have it
Hey Datto, is fruit going to do a challenge with you?
What's the name of the background music? I can't remember for the life of me.
Shin Malphur First to Last.
I miss this raid, I miss the old revive system, I miss a lot.
Background music? Thanks!
I've been trying to get all the hard mode raid gear for Wrath of the Machine and I only have the gloves chest and cloak. Still looking for helmet and legs.
my team and i didnt kill the walker we just had 3 people shooting it while the others grabbed the parts and hopefully he would focus on the people shooting it and then we would switch and we also tryed shooting one of its legs and carried the parts while he was down and we finished the encounter with 5:03 minutes
Chris Vargas Sounds like a super sloppy and dumb way to complete it. You would've been able to kill him easy anyway.
we didnt know we would have more time so we figured we wouldnt have time to kill him and though is not a very elaborate way of doing it it is still very effective
we simply killed it, and even with 3 dead after that (no clue what happened, probably captains getting a bit too close for comfort) we did it in 4:59 on the first run surprisingly enough. didnt even know about the walker so it caught us off guard
So the loot tables are perma-split?
holy balls what the hell killed the tank with one shot!? was one of your team mates sword reflecting skiff shots?
Can anyone please tell me what the BGM (back ground music) was in this video?
What light is recommended
Omfg Datto those ships are Skiffs not ketches, omg disliked, flagged, reported, and unsubscribed wow Datto I expected more from you ;)
Luke Smith TH-cam Hero level 666
whats the background music
Vosik fight got difficult for my team and then we did the rest of the raid in Like 40min whole messing around with the monitors
thx daddo
I'm 390 and I want to help my friend trough normal mode. Once it is finished and I get 385 loot from the raid when I then play the hard mode will I still get loot?
Now check if the monitor is any different?
What if for the Aksis challenge mode, you can't disable the turrets? Like if you shoot it then you fail the challenge.
Sam Martin Aksis phase 1
Dan yeah but that's not the actual fight so there won't be a challenge mode for aksis phase 1
What light are the enemies on Aksis phase 1/2? (Including Aksis)
ThatBro Kevin 400
bsxiii ok thank you
no they are 390 light
is this like oryx hm when you kill a boss in hard you get a underlevel piece of gear or weapon ?
Pedro Melo No, ever since the April Update that hasn't been a thing
Volactic Milk thanks good to hear (:
yo did the whole community give up on the last exit code ?
would you please test if materia
They need to nerf the fallen skiff turrets, they have WAAAY too much health and do insane damage
Joshua Park They are annoying, but yeah, Vosik is so much harder than the rest of the raid.
when you said all 6 need to grab the bombs on vosik you are wrong you dont need all 6 to get all the bombs just grab as many as you can safely a min of 3 and then throw and that will be plenty might take you more rotations but being safe is key in hard mode
that looping music is in the back of ALL YOUR VIDEOS???
So much good information, but that looping music is making me nuts
whst hit the walker?
Devils dawn vs ex machina ???
Lucky Satyr devils dawn will lose by heaps
Lucky Satyr use the event horizon from crucible vendor over the devil's dawn
That was a funny end clip XD