We The People | Row Over Faiz Ahmad's Poem

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  • @drmadhusudan
    @drmadhusudan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Idiotic explaination from Nigam. He wants to divert the real meaning of the poem to his liking & idiocy.

    • @chetanrajora2031
      @chetanrajora2031 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      NDTV has hired him on dihadi..just speak so that viewers can laugh.

    • @ramraghuwanshi2562
      @ramraghuwanshi2562 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes everything is joke for u except when it comes to vande mataram

    • @mattynewham1125
      @mattynewham1125 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      the BJP turned india to talibani hindu state

    • @ramraghuwanshi2562
      @ramraghuwanshi2562 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mattynewham1125 no dude... India was already had talibani muslim when they opposed vande mataram...
      Now they r getting taste of there own medicine... Wht happens when when hindu get fundamental

    • @nagraj2k1
      @nagraj2k1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      To be a bjp fan you need to be below 80 IQ

  • @mz24x77
    @mz24x77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I'm proud of my non-muslim brothers and sisters in the comment section. I have a strong belief that our youth will remember all this brutality, unconstitutional decisions and evil actions of ruling government. Deshratan Nigam is not a political analyst but a spokesperson of BJP/RSS.

    • @kpp2941
      @kpp2941 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mr.Ali201 Salman Rushdie is a great writer. Dont ban and threaten him.

  • @uzairansari9222
    @uzairansari9222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    funny how a poem once labelled as anti muslim is now being labelled as anti hindu

  • @ArvindYadav-ge7kb
    @ArvindYadav-ge7kb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    We should not expect Sanghis to understand Faiz's poetry.

    • @kpp2941
      @kpp2941 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It wasn't a sanghi who banned Salman Rushdie's literarary work.

    • @twinsofchina5839
      @twinsofchina5839 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      KP P comparing Faiz with Salman is very idiotic!

    • @yess10
      @yess10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Faiz ka chutiyapa aur Iqbal ka chutiyapa = pakistan

    • @kpp2941
      @kpp2941 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@twinsofchina5839 The point is, no literature should be banned.

    • @nit23sharma
      @nit23sharma 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The girl asking the question didn't even knew that Dharam is not religion.....

  • @yeshonestly4268
    @yeshonestly4268 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This poem is timeless for Injustice anywhere in the world. Pure eternal truth as Injustice and lies are bond to perish by nature. Hum bhi dekhenge

  • @himstien
    @himstien 4 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Ndtv please stop writing "political analyst" for Mr Nigam. Write what he is, an RSS mouth piece

    • @humashaz2015
      @humashaz2015 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      and a shallow one and one with a limited vocabulary 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @nagraj2k1
      @nagraj2k1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its not the left or the centrists fault that the right are intellectually bankrupt

    • @ankushsingh1991
      @ankushsingh1991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Whats wrong in RSS... Atleast he is not member of boko haram... Or isisi , they all Rapist.

    • @amitthakur8162
      @amitthakur8162 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Prof. Himstein people from other parties are also coming as political analysts, why only single out rss. Perhaps because you look at only one side of the picture

  • @shaktiyadav6133
    @shaktiyadav6133 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Mr Deshratan is not polytical analyst He is BJP spokesperson and has no sense to understands like this poetry

    • @srinivasarao7145
      @srinivasarao7145 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One of the poetry rendered by Muslim leaders Hus ke liye Pakistan; barbad karenge hindustan. This perhaps everybody understands.

    • @mr.y_bhav4255
      @mr.y_bhav4255 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awwal darje chutiya he ye
      Tajmahal ko tejomahal bolta he sala

  • @tapanroysarkar215
    @tapanroysarkar215 4 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    Little knowledge is dangerous. Applies to the bjp spokesperson.

    • @Historystudent882
      @Historystudent882 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tapan ROY SARKAR :- buut hataaye jayinge..is similar to roz 5 baar chuttad uthaaye jaayinge...isn’t it .

    • @sumbulakhtar1885
      @sumbulakhtar1885 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think they know the meaning and deliberately misconstrued the meaning to distract from the zulm.

    • @balamurugan5934
      @balamurugan5934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No my friend RSS and BJP knows everything but their main aim is to divide the people in the name religion.....

    • @sumbulakhtar1885
      @sumbulakhtar1885 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @guns ofglory when people resist singing bandematram, or say it Is anti Islamic and refuse to sing it, it is different from people choosing a piece of poetry to signify their protest. Here the protesters are not forcing it on everyone. Actually the hue and cry is making everyone interested in faiz and urdu poetry in general. We know for sure vandematram was not meant for india only and was a glorification of hindu goddesses including bharat Mata. Also, Allah's name will remain means God will remain while the tyrants will be overthrown and people who have been subjugated will rule. There isn't anything against any religion but to understand this one has to understand elements of poetry and language.

    • @neildutta
      @neildutta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would you think similarly if I were to write a song about a certain prophet's 'love' for children??

  • @ashrafbharde9906
    @ashrafbharde9906 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Mr Nigam can't understand
    if he Accepted then he is getting fire from RSS

    • @nit23sharma
      @nit23sharma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No one answered Nigam's questions...if Faiz was fighting against mullahs then why no poem mullah's uthaye jaayenge n masjidein uthaayi jaayengi

    • @simim111
      @simim111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @guns ofglory we sing Vande Mataram. At the time it was declared as the India's national song they took just the first paragraph. And Muslims at the time had no objection to it. But when people like you want to force others you consider outsiders to say the whole song, it shows your fascist and supremacists ideology. Nothing that will be forced down our throats, we the people will object to it.

    • @rahulkanojia7240
      @rahulkanojia7240 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sarri duniya m maar kaat kar rakhi h mujhe dikhta m blind nhi hu sirf ek hi religionaur bolne ko to maa ki gaali bhi de sakte h to yrr apni maa ko gaali dedo phir

  • @drmadhusudan
    @drmadhusudan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    these children are more intelligent than this Nigam or the RSS spokeman..I solute their bravery & intelligence.

    • @twinsofchina5839
      @twinsofchina5839 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Shyla S L to kha gaye ho india walon! Pakistan pakistan do you guys have anything else to do in ur lives? 24/7 Pakistan 🤣

    • @vijayaditya2003
      @vijayaditya2003 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s not this ..... it’s not that... it’s not against idols .... it’s this it’s that...ha ha ha “ struggling to white wash all that Islamic bigotry and venom spewed against people who use idols in worship in that poetry by saying it is not what u hear ... it’s not this ... it’s not that inspite obvious venom in those lines though the venom is spewed directly and openly. It is openly bigotric and jihadist.
      But they dig unseen meanings and twist them in wired way in any thing that is Hindu or Modi govt laws.

    • @vicky1b
      @vicky1b 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dr Madhusudan who made you doctor?
      Answer this. Imagine an Indian poet writing following:
      Kaashi ke pavitra dharti se masjid uthaye jaayemge....
      Will he be called progressive or hate monger?

  • @amitgoyal3101
    @amitgoyal3101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    To understand Faiz Ahmed Faiz, one needs to have a lot of depth and understanding of symbolism, history, literature, to begin with. A cartoon like the RSS guy who is so literal in his thinking, trying to decode Faiz is painfully hilarious!

    • @AsmaSohailMRTH
      @AsmaSohailMRTH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Whenever Nigam opens his mouth, I start searching for something to throw at the TV. And to prevent that I have the mute button handy. The joke is they call him political analyst. He should be called the RSS Donkey.

    • @rehanhaque5660
      @rehanhaque5660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Best comment so far

    • @rehanhaque5660
      @rehanhaque5660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AsmaSohailMRTH hahahahha lol I cant stop laughing

    • @mattynewham1125
      @mattynewham1125 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the BJP turned india to talibani hindu state

    • @vijayaditya2003
      @vijayaditya2003 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depth or my foot. One need to be a Islamist . As simple as that. Don’t try to dig the depths that was never there. You will be buried under the mud u digged.

  • @tavleensasan2408
    @tavleensasan2408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Its not about faiz the whole thing is we r against this rss mentality

  • @ajitsengar7504
    @ajitsengar7504 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ham Bhi dekhenge salute JNU

  • @swagatochatterjee7104
    @swagatochatterjee7104 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Bhakts be like 'Sirf naam rahhe ga Allah kah', There is no God but Allah. Abbe saale, the next line specifically says 'joh mein bhi hoon aur tum bhi hno'.

    • @sumbulakhtar1885
      @sumbulakhtar1885 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @guns ofglory faiz was not being muslim when he wrote this. In case you didnt understand after the whole discussion.

    • @twinsofchina5839
      @twinsofchina5839 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Samajhne ke leye dimagh chahiye! Jiska jo dil kar raha hai wo idhar comment kar raha hai! If someone really knows Faiz Sahib then he wouldn’t even question his poetry!

    • @sumbulakhtar1885
      @sumbulakhtar1885 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @guns ofglory just wondering why should muslims sing this song from a novel written to invoke feelings of love for hindu rastra?

    • @twinsofchina5839
      @twinsofchina5839 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      guns ofglory haha 😂 all the respect disrespect mandari masjid hindu muslim pakistan india etc all became so important and big issues in BJP government time 😂

    • @sumbulakhtar1885
      @sumbulakhtar1885 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @guns ofglory nobody needs to accept anything. Poets say things they feel. People accept what resonates. It becomes a problem when people are forced or expected to recite when it does not resonate with them. Those who like Faizs poetry and find it relevant can choose it and common hindus( who you assume do not find it relevant) and others do not need to recite it.

  • @jacobkbh8733
    @jacobkbh8733 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    there is another urdu word for people like deshratan nigham its called JAHIL

    • @jacobkbh8733
      @jacobkbh8733 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ankurverma2630 so you except that you are a jahil..and cannot differentiate between right and wrong.

    • @Worldwise_Perspectives
      @Worldwise_Perspectives 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ankurverma2630 jahadi is Arabic word jahil

  • @waseemraza935
    @waseemraza935 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    This RSS man is good item of entertainment, really I enjoyed him.

    • @srikri1403
      @srikri1403 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Its the truth. Peacefuls given all comforts, but they give us stones and stone pelters and deface our gods. Now whole world knows the ugly truth

    • @mattynewham1125
      @mattynewham1125 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      the BJP turned india to hindu talibani state

    • @jaydevsinhparmar238
      @jaydevsinhparmar238 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sare mazar tode jayenge sab minar uchhale jayenge sirf naam rahega Krishna ka 😀😀😀 now it's secular

  • @cicolusnage2349
    @cicolusnage2349 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This guys are politicising a poem! It doesn't get more dumber 😂

  • @Gulamrabbani3190
    @Gulamrabbani3190 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    For Nigam- Allah k bande hans de Allah k bande

  • @whatslifespurpose
    @whatslifespurpose 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The BJP guy should be sent to a mental asylum.

  • @thepunjabinterest
    @thepunjabinterest 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Looking at desh ratan's face, I can say even he himself isn't convinced with his own interpretation

    • @s.vraman6009
      @s.vraman6009 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hahaha..

    • @kpp2941
      @kpp2941 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think he is like a sheepish student who forgot the obvious befitting answer: the stupid row over Rushdie's book.

    • @adnankitabi9530
      @adnankitabi9530 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is an intelligent man and I agree he is not convince with his own argument

    • @mohsindalvi87
      @mohsindalvi87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He is convinced. He is an ideologically motivated fanatic.

  • @greenroad343
    @greenroad343 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mr.Arora got it right. No one can accuse Parivar of lack of intelligence. Most people are emotional and cannot see the purpose and intentions of focused organisations. Intelligent people know how to use logical fallacies to dictate the discourse.
    It is interesting that Faiz's poem has shaken the powerful. I hope that the law of diminishing returns catches up the present regime's push on social agenda.
    They better fo us on the basics of what a government needs to do - it is certainly not divisive social agenda.

  • @zainmohammed5947
    @zainmohammed5947 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "There is no image of him. He is unborned and He should be worshipped" (Yajurveda, Chapter 32, Verse 3)
    "god is bodyless and pure" (Yajurveda, Chapter 40, Verse 8)
    "They are entering darkness, those who worship the natural things(like air, water, fire etc.), they are sinking more in darkness who worship created things." (Yajurveda, Chapter 40, Verse
    "Say this, all one God in many names" (Rigveda, Book 1, Hymn 164, Verse 46)
    "Do not worship anyone besides him alone, praise him alone" (Rigveda, Book 8, Hymn 1, Verse 1)
    "Praise him would matchless and alone" (Rigveda, Book 6, Hymn 45, Verse 16)
    Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires, they worship demigods" (Bhagavad Gita, Chapter 7, Verse 20)
    "There is no likeness of him" (Svetasvatara Upanishad, Chapter 4, Verse 19)
    "His form cannot be seen, No one can see him with the eyes" (Svetasvatara Upanishad, Chapter 4, Verse
    "God is one and only, not a second" (Chandogya Upanishad, Chapter 6, Section 2, Verse 1)
    "Of him (God), there is no parents, no Lord" (Svetasvatara Upanishad, Chapter 6, Verse 9)
    "Of him (God), there is no parents, no Lord" (Svetasvatara Upanishad, Chapter 6, Verse 9)
    ALL HINDU RELIGIOUS SCRIPTURES ARE ANTI HINDU ?
    THATS STRANGE

    • @neildutta
      @neildutta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And your prophet married a 6 year old... What are you talking about??

    • @yeshonestly4268
      @yeshonestly4268 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jahel that is lies.

    • @yeshonestly4268
      @yeshonestly4268 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Since the approval and consent of a girl for marriage is a must and has a legal standing in Islam therefore the girl can not be a minor. You are jahel and malicious

    • @yeshonestly4268
      @yeshonestly4268 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      In Islam women were given rights when the rest of the world had not given them rights. A marriage in Islam can not take place without the approval of the girl. Women were given the right to inherit property 14 hundred years ago. Islam and tradition are two different things. In Islam a woman does not even have to do housework, it is a traditional thing. Half truths and twisted truths are whole lies. Ppl have very little knowledge and understanding

    • @zainmohammed5947
      @zainmohammed5947 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@neildutta who told u that?
      Ur RSs guru?
      Thats a plain lie..
      By the way do u know the age of sita when she married Ram?
      If u dont know ask me..i will enlighten u

  • @akrambagwan7872
    @akrambagwan7872 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Bhakts are iliterate dont know literature 🤣🤣🤣

    • @srikri1403
      @srikri1403 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ran out of logic already?

    • @kpp2941
      @kpp2941 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wonder who demanded banning literary work of Salman Rushdie.

    • @prashantsinghal3140
      @prashantsinghal3140 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So called intellectual can never run countries, it is illiterates who rule this country and many more

    • @jaydevsinhparmar238
      @jaydevsinhparmar238 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sare mazar tode jayenge sab minar uchhale jayenge sirf naam rahega Krishna ka 😀😀😀 now it's secular

  • @tamallahiri5572
    @tamallahiri5572 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    There is no difference between Zia and the present BJP Government as both think in the same way.

  • @sandeepmajhi4414
    @sandeepmajhi4414 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Nigam is so pathetically shameless - and so disciplined over discharge of the brief he received from his political masters! May be a Rajya Sabha candidature is on the cards!!

    • @sandeepmajhi4414
      @sandeepmajhi4414 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @guns ofglory "Guns of Glory" - Covert activist & partisan intellectual!! So many in emerging India today - - wish people with proficiency in English Writing were fair & bold too! It is so convenient to take side of the power and close eyes to absurdities? This is a very short phase, albeit, in a nation's life-time.

    • @sandeepmajhi4414
      @sandeepmajhi4414 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @bg s As a voter, not a supporter & covert activist, the concern is where are our aspirations that this government promised to address and guarantee and got our vote? Faiz, an erstwhile Indian army man followed by his life in some other nation, died 35 years back and is no concern at all to us or anyone in India. How many farmers committed suicide in last one year? Despite good monsoon for last 6 years, why food prices are on rise? Why my bank is charging me hidden costs - where are zero-balance accounts? Why I'm not getting my CGST returns? Why our public hospitals, schools are still not changing from Congress days? Why are we discussing Faiz now?

  • @bajpaipunit
    @bajpaipunit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Mr Nigam when an atheist like Savarkar can talk on Hindutva, why Faiz can't talk about bu'ut? Anyways he was simply a great poet.

    • @suhridguha2560
      @suhridguha2560 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well that parallel doesn't make sense cause nastikas can be hindus. I am one. You don't need to believe in GOD to be Hindu.

    • @vishalpatkar6819
      @vishalpatkar6819 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@suhridguha2560 hindu is fucking Ideology not religion dude came in existence with rss

    • @vishalpatkar6819
      @vishalpatkar6819 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Britishers ofcourse

  • @Rafikhanabd1970
    @Rafikhanabd1970 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    There was a Educated Muslim who said
    “ I always lost to a JAHIL and never from the educated one”
    Today I see the sweeping comments & views from people who does not even know or understand the subject and when these idiots talk they talk like an expert 😱

    • @IruTheFatma
      @IruTheFatma 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Manish Erande vande Matram . Now you say vande matram

    • @IruTheFatma
      @IruTheFatma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Eric sam big issues man . They are distracting us to these small things. Our people are hungry, uneducated ,jobless and sick . Why we don't talk about these issues and we do debate on these issues ?? Is that being anti nationalist or some kind of anti , thinking about your own country and people . May be then they have to work and take the real responsibility which they don't want to but we are not fools here . We love our country and we mean it . They should be answerable to their people and to their country. Do they mean vande matram ?? I don't think so spreading hatred in communities , dividing your own people for the sake of vote . How can one be so selfish but now we are not fools and the good thing is this tactic will not work anymore because this time we all are together for eachother aur Hm dekhenge .

    • @IruTheFatma
      @IruTheFatma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Eric sam i say vande matram very proudly because i have my own mind , i am not listening to any maulana. No maulana/priest can provide me school , hospital and jobs . If they can I am greatful to them but the one who is responsible i will ask to him , the government. They all are same in the name of religion they are also not doing any good to country, but we will ask . If any day any maullana or priest is PM , my question will remain same . Ask a hungry person which religion he belongs to ,ask a person who is educated but not having a job which religion he belongs to . We all are same at the end of the day we all want food in our home ,no matter from what religion we are , every parent want their kids to be educated, healthy. There is no question of religion or patriotism. I am not paying any tax to any maullana . My money should be used for some productive work in my country .

    • @IruTheFatma
      @IruTheFatma 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Varoon please give the reference of which poem you are talking about ?? And let me tell you he is the same guy who wrote sare jaha se acha hindustan hmara . Mazhab nhi sikhata apas me bair rakhna. I wish if you have read this poem too , how beautifully it has been written and described, how you people are able to find bad in every beautiful thing ... Heights of hypocrisy 🤣

    • @rahulbhalerao2266
      @rahulbhalerao2266 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IruTheFatma That's the whole point maulana's are a very intelligent community. They cannot provide jobs, shelter and food. That's the reason they promise "Jannat" haven (Virtual Reality)

  • @bajpaipunit
    @bajpaipunit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bu'ut means yes men... such a beautiful poetry...

  • @RashidKhan-bk9hm
    @RashidKhan-bk9hm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The poem is anti Islamic defying Zia for his islamisation of Pakistan

  • @shikebkhan9834
    @shikebkhan9834 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Aamir sir , way you expressed stanza really broughtup so much detailing in few minutes......as always your brilliance.
    Beautiful Sir

    • @shikebkhan9834
      @shikebkhan9834 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Manish Erande sure, but not because you this I always belief......vande mataram bharat Mata ki jai, jai hind .....right, now could we move for some real issues, we want better and healthy life and development of country......not just chants but we believe in bharat mata by heart

  • @xilici
    @xilici 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jab Arz-e-Khuda ke Kaabe se sab Buut uthwaye jaaengay ❤️🔥

  • @Jack54275
    @Jack54275 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "When you look at the dark side, careful you must be. For the dark side looks back. You will find only what you bring in. Difficult to see" - Yoda

  • @smsshamsi
    @smsshamsi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mein bahut hairaan hun, ke yehan per kisi participater ne iss jumle per kiyun dhyan nahin diya ke: "Arze khuda ke kabe se", "Arze kuda" Yani "zameen per ke khuda" jo kisi bhi daur ke zalim, ghamandi hakim ko batana karta hai. Issi tarah in zameen khudaon ke kabe aur unn ke buton se murad inn hukumranon ki hukumat ke shareek hain.
    Agar in baton ko samajh lein to iss nazm ka sahih matlab aur iss ke maine puri tarah khul kar samne aa jata hai...

  • @anantsingh5578
    @anantsingh5578 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Sheeba aslam fehmi ...... Kudos
    👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @PrakharTalksSports
    @PrakharTalksSports 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Call Desh Ratan Nigam on the day of Delhi's election result.

    • @amitagarwal2117
      @amitagarwal2117 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      6 mahine phale hi desh ne tumhe sabak sikhaya..50 seat bhi nahi mili tere pappu ko

    • @himstien
      @himstien 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think he was during the jharkhand election time. He was up in knots trying to twist the results

    • @AK7731
      @AK7731 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Desh Ratan Nigam is the kind of person that can put a spin on literally anything shamelessly without seeing how much he is exposing himself and his organization to ridicule by some of the most idiotic arguments I've heard on a debate!!

    • @iqbalkrishna930
      @iqbalkrishna930 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AK7731 If you can spot it, it is not so. In an earlier debate, Nigam was explaining the rationale that minorities in Pakistan are being raped on basis of religion and cricket.
      I was wondering what is his explanation for such cases in India and if for a woman, the effect is different for the 2? Unbelievable!

  • @shadabqureshi6283
    @shadabqureshi6283 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Are kya chutiyapa laga rakha hai bc ...koi unemployment ,ECONOMY ,jobs,development ,education ,health per bolo

  • @20shourya
    @20shourya 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Supporters of Modi Narendra Modi have lost it - especially Nigam Ratan Desh Ratan Nigam.

  • @drmadhusudan
    @drmadhusudan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This Kaushal is calling the people protesting as Antinationals. Shame on him

    • @vicky1b
      @vicky1b 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dr Madhusudan off course they are anti nationals. These people want citizenship for Muslims of Pakistan same people who created Pakistan. That is anti nationalism of worst kind.

  • @humashaz2015
    @humashaz2015 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    idols in Kaaba were not the Hindu idols , an idol is also Ravan's idol

    • @bimkivi
      @bimkivi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Bas naam rahega Allah ka".. Supports islamic fascism

    • @BharatSingh_Rajpoot
      @BharatSingh_Rajpoot 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What about bus naam rahega Allah ka???
      Bande matram gane main muslims ki dharam khatre main aajati hai???

    • @firdosiaparveen1131
      @firdosiaparveen1131 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bimkivi "bas naam rahega Ishwar ka" - if u translate it in hindi. What's wrong in it?

    • @bimkivi
      @bimkivi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@firdosiaparveen1131 no it's not that.. Allah doesn't translate to Ishwar... Have you even heard ishwar Or any other Synonym of God being used for Azan, in place of Allah.

    • @firdosiaparveen1131
      @firdosiaparveen1131 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bimkivi Ishwar in hindi is the translation of Allah in Arabic .
      U cn search it if u don't trust me.

  • @Nisar_Awan
    @Nisar_Awan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ہم دیکھیں گے لازمی ہے کہ ہم بھی دیکھیں گے انشاءاللہ love from kashmir

  • @dheerajkumar2943
    @dheerajkumar2943 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Who is came here after seeing comedian of the century (ताज़महल वाले) Mr. NIGAM 😂

  • @OneWorld_MJ
    @OneWorld_MJ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Why the hell do you bring this RSS chap

  • @SalmanKhan-uy9du
    @SalmanKhan-uy9du 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bjp or rss kuch saal aur india ko rule ki tu sach me log India me zindga rehne ko he vikas samjenge .

  • @Kolkatabong
    @Kolkatabong 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hum dekhenge .....

  • @abhivarghese1078
    @abhivarghese1078 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Mr Nigam amongst the RSS lot I had a shred of respect for u....today u lost it all....I feel sorry for my country.

    • @twinsofchina5839
      @twinsofchina5839 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      mahesh deshmukh hahahahaha 🤣🤣

    • @twinsofchina5839
      @twinsofchina5839 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eric sam bhai ye lou! VandeMataram! I am from Karachi and i am saying this for you so that you can feel that VandeMataram does not affect my faith!

    • @twinsofchina5839
      @twinsofchina5839 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zen Zui Zen zui buddy! You dont know! People in Karachi or lets say in sindh and balochistan are not even thinking or talking about india! They are just going to work and coming back having chai ☕️ at dhaaba with friends! Smoking some cigarettes 🚬 chilling! Why do we need to talk about india all the time? But in india and india godi media you will see pakistan most of the time!

    • @twinsofchina5839
      @twinsofchina5839 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zia Ul Haq time is over! His ideas his jihadi mentality had let us to many regional issues! It takes time and which it took almost 30+ years 😁 i see Karachi hyderabad quetta larkana sukkur etc different than what it used to be in 2005 2007! Totally different!

    • @twinsofchina5839
      @twinsofchina5839 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zen Zui and if you can then check Altaf Hussain interview with arnab goswami! Seriously they are made for eachother 😂 that guy and his terrorist group mqm they had created a communal violence in karachi hyderabad and sukkur of sindh province! And look at this now? Indian media and government is using them for the propaganda? Same way hafiz saeed and this mullah azhar get support for specific agendas! We need to understand we need to stop using these tactical tactics to fight and spread violence! But again no one cares and talks about it in pakistan! In india politics is mostly around pakistan 😂

  • @anujcool21
    @anujcool21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I skipped parts where nigam and rss chap spoke

  • @ema7561
    @ema7561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If you're going to ban songs, you should also ban ' Sare jehan say acha hindustan', by Allama Iqbal since he was one of the founders of Pakistan.

    • @fahadkidwai8824
      @fahadkidwai8824 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Em A a solid point aroused you brother !!

    • @ema7561
      @ema7561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @syed sameed Ahmed If you bothered to look the year of his death you could also do yourself a favour and read his biography. He is considered one of the founding fathers of Pakistan along with Jinnah. He was one of the first to espouse the idea of a separate homeland for Muslims. Look it up anywhere. Sorry if its not what you want to believe.

    • @ema7561
      @ema7561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @syed sameed Ahmed I have read his poetry, as has every Pakistani student. Look up Allahabad Address. How can you deny facts?

    • @ema7561
      @ema7561 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @syed sameed Ahmed More than Jinnah he was responsible for Pakistan. He came up with the idea of a separate state for Muslims first within and later independent of India. He did not live long enough to see the creation but it was his brainchild. His descendants all live in Pakistan.. Look up the letters exchanged between Jinnah and Iqbal before his death

    • @ema7561
      @ema7561 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @syed sameed Ahmed First lines from Wikipedia
      Sir Muhammad Iqbal), widely known as Allama Iqbal, was a poet, philosopher and politician, as well as an academic, barrister and scholar[1][2] in British India who is widely regarded as having inspired the Pakistan Movement. He is called the "Spiritual Father of Pakistan."[

  • @voicification
    @voicification 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amir Raza Hussain should be declared a national treasure.
    Also a Dushyant while being a bit more dramatic than needed but he was spot on. Right wing understands this very well and is exploiting this.

  • @MerajKhan-cw8hm
    @MerajKhan-cw8hm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I used to think Nigam to be a sensible person but here he made a complete fool of himself.

  • @funnyclouds17
    @funnyclouds17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Mr Nigam connected Faiz poem to CAA. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @srikanthgadila4930
    @srikanthgadila4930 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dr Gauhar sir Salute to you

  • @avtarsingh9667
    @avtarsingh9667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good debate.
    Let's broaden our views and peep into others heart to make sure his world is not demolished. We are humans.
    Let's learn from our idols.

  • @harrixon3d
    @harrixon3d 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I being a Pakistani have heard and understood this poem since my childhood but I would like to say that this is by far the worst explanation of the poem that could ever be made up

    • @jaydevsinhparmar238
      @jaydevsinhparmar238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sare mazar tode jayenge sab minar uchhale jayenge sirf naam rahega Krishna ka 😀😀😀 now it's secular

    • @harrixon3d
      @harrixon3d 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaydevsinhparmar238 dont be a sanghi, you bhangi!

  • @sandeepmajhi4414
    @sandeepmajhi4414 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nigam and Mishra are both proving a point : In democracy, even the utter ignorants deserve prime-time media attention and so many wise minds striving to help them understand the moot point. Biggest strength of of Nigam and Mishra-like people is remain on their point of (political) interest.

  • @rehanhaque5660
    @rehanhaque5660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The young generation of India shocked the world as those people did in that stadium ....decade ago ...reject Fundamentalism

  • @smartcuts
    @smartcuts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kafir simply means non muslim...like in Hindu religion fro e.g...if somethng does do certain thing he'll not b considered as Hindu or Non -Hindu ...similar is the case in Islam if some1 considered anothr God he'll not b considered as Muslim or non-muslim or mushriq...
    bt there is anothr verse which says"whoevr desrespect anothr religion or God will also not b considered as muslim"...

  • @prithvirajdj
    @prithvirajdj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Itne saare experts bitha liye, poora poora time dia, sb ko bolne ka mauka dia fir bhi bich me baithe ek bhakt ko convince nhi kr paae. Ab socho hmlog ka kya haal hota hoga apne friends ko samjhaane me kisi wtsap group me 😂😂😂

  • @mohammadkhan9577
    @mohammadkhan9577 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nigam saheb aapke samay me bjp power me nahi thi isliye aapko humla ka samna nahi karna pada aur aapko Faiz ka tarana padhne ki zaroorat padi. You make it all clear the difference of regime. Thanks

  • @Samir-ik7hv
    @Samir-ik7hv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bas naam rahega Allah ka - Allah in arabic is the synonym of the word Ishwar in hindi or God in English or Khuda in urdu. Type meaning of Allah in arabic in your google browser and you’ll find it out. In arabic speaking countries the christians and the jews use allah as a synonym for God. It’s not only for muslims.

  • @mayraboutique1112
    @mayraboutique1112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Both govt and opposition are in different state of discussion , instead of economy , development we are Tangled in useless things , Nothing will happen with Caa or NRC but joblessness will be a debacle for India young generation

  • @heiftonheifton9412
    @heiftonheifton9412 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jagne ki bhi jaagane ki bhi aadat ho jaye.....
    "Dushyat" (political analyst)ko shayari se mohabbat hojaye.

  • @sanjaydubey4556
    @sanjaydubey4556 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wo din ke jiska wada hai: truly the promised justice is being delivered to the prosecuted minorities. Better late than never. Instead of condemning the perpetual offenders, strangely all the venom is directed towards the one who have worked towards the long awaited course correction. It would be interesting to know about (a) phrase/ quote/ line/ version from Islamic world propagating/advocating coexistence of all religions and faiths. Answer to 'Ishwar Allah tero naam' can never be 'la ilaha ilallah'.

  • @mdfaizanali9929
    @mdfaizanali9929 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Twinkle twinkle little star should be baned because it hearts star...😅😅😅😅😅

  • @2saadkhan
    @2saadkhan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's not anti Hindu..its anti modi government..

  • @sudeepmenon17
    @sudeepmenon17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Get well soon Desh Ratan Nigam

  • @godsowncountry660
    @godsowncountry660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Waste of time arguing wth sanghiz ...thy dnt hv brain 🧠 or logic ...leave it

  • @mehmoodaslam9160
    @mehmoodaslam9160 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Bjp problem is these days they are linking everything with Pakistan lol

  • @prashantkurhade1947
    @prashantkurhade1947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear all viewers.
    Whatever the matter may be with the origin of this poem.
    But this poem is for a particular community.
    This poem is irrelevant in India.
    Those who love this song so much .
    With due respect i want those to leave India and migrate to some other country.
    I would say just leave .

  • @shoaib3784
    @shoaib3784 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Allah is not only the God of Muslims he is for everyone.

  • @badal1001
    @badal1001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We the poor people who are not a part of kingdom will get government, we must see ,all dectetors will finish soon and common persons will have power. This poem have nothing with any religion,also not for Islam.

  • @fizaa7120
    @fizaa7120 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If faiz would have been Indian he would answer why he did not use masjid instead of bout ... this poem has been loved by Pakistanis . It is a Pakistani poem written by Pakistani poet for Pakistani people what’s the point in criticising.

  • @scorpio0006
    @scorpio0006 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    IDOLS means "Fascist leaders ,dictators all the leaders who thinks they are above the JANATA.
    THINK INDIA THINK
    Bol keh lub Azad hain tere (Again by Faiz)
    Gen.Zia was the Idol that time ,in the times of DARKNESS this was the glimpse of HOPE & LIGHT for Suppressed. When everyone FEARED ,
    Faiz was the first to Spoke against Fascist Dictator in daylight.
    All of Sudden the Suppressed find the VOICE n Courage took over Fear n all starting chanting.
    " LAZIM HAY KEH HUM BHI DEKHAIN GAYE! "

  • @sagarkushwaha4991
    @sagarkushwaha4991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Finally literature got his work.
    # humdekhenge

  • @hindustanimusiclover6543
    @hindustanimusiclover6543 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Adding the "Offensive" lines from "Vande Mataram" here for "Context":
    Thou art Durga, Lady and Queen,
    With her hands that strike and her swords of sheen,
    Thou art Lakshmi lotus-throned,
    And the Muse a hundred-toned,
    Pure and perfect without peer,
    Mother lend thine ear,
    Rich with thy hurrying streams,
    Bright with thy orchard gleems,
    Dark of hue O candid-fair [Verse 4]
    Muslims: This is against our religion.

  • @drashmaria
    @drashmaria 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very well said by the lawyer

  • @shabbirahmad2204
    @shabbirahmad2204 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing show ,thanks a lot Mam gargi

  • @vatsalpant
    @vatsalpant 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jis dhaz ke koi maqtal ko gaya woh shaan salamat rehti hai
    Ye jaan toh aani jaani hai iss jaan ki toh koi baat nahi-faiz

    • @sheebaaslam
      @sheebaaslam 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      vatsal pant great recall, thanks

    • @vatsalpant
      @vatsalpant 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sheebaaslam oh.. My pleasure mam

  • @bilalyaqubrana496
    @bilalyaqubrana496 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shame on them, who even didn't have knowledge about Poet,his background, circumstances in which it was written and the deep even straight meaning of each verse.
    Faiz was a progressive Poet nothing to do with Hinduism or RSS India.
    He is addressing to his people in Pakistan at that time who were bowed down to General Zia, to stand up against him for their own fundamental rights.
    Dear Indian plz if u don't gonna understand. The soul of the poem,then plz don't politicise and insult my Faiz.
    From PAKISTAN❤

  • @durrayshawar4345
    @durrayshawar4345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Buth and ruler are synonymous which are selected or made by people with thr own hand...thats y faiz used buthh as they can be removed by people whenever they want

  • @alfwaq
    @alfwaq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ayeeyay haath uthayen hum bhi
    Hum jinhain rasm-e-dua yaad nahi
    Hum jinhain soz-e-muhabbat k siwa
    Koi but koi khuda yaad nahi
    Woh Jin ka deen pairwi e kizb-o-raya Hai unko (Those who go astray)
    Himmat e jufr milay jurrat e tehqeeq milay
    Woh Jin Kay sar muntazir e tegh e jafa hain unko ( Those whose heads are awaiting the cruel blade of the executioner)
    Dast e qatil ko jhatak Dene ki taufeeq milay (They may shore up the courage to push away the hands of the murderer )

  • @貴方の愛
    @貴方の愛 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks asstt. stupid Sharma for putting grievance against the poem making it so popular.
    Otherwise, it wouldn't have become so famous in India.

  • @rkgupta7168
    @rkgupta7168 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Answe to faiz
    By R K GUPTA
    TUM DEKHO GE
    1.
    तुम सोच रहे क्या देखोगे
    क्या देखोगे
    लाज़िम है यही तुम देखोगे
    तुम देखोगे,
    मेरा है वतन मेरा ही मन
    मेरा ही तन मेरा ही वचन,
    इस राष्ट्र में मेरे प्राण बसे,
    सदिओं के अरमान बसे,
    अब देश नहीँ बटने तुम देखोगे
    लाज़िम है यही तुम देखोगे
    हाँ देखोगे
    2.
    तुम सोच रहे क्या देखोगे
    क्या देखोगे
    सागर जिसके पांव पखारे
    हिम का मुकुट ललाट निखरे
    दाए बाये धरती अम्बर
    गंगा यमुना और समंदर
    भारत की पहचान यहीं तुम देखोगे,
    लाज़िम है यही तुम देखोगे
    हाँ देखोगे
    3.
    तुम सोच रहे क्या देखोगे
    क्या देखोगे
    सदियों से मेरा नाम यही
    भारत ही पहचान मेरी
    पुरखों की मेरे जान यहीं
    हर मन में हिन्दुस्तान यहीं
    सत्य अहिंसा और शांति का
    आज असर तुम दिखोगे
    हाँ देखोगे
    लाज़िम है यही तुम देखोगे
    तुम देखोगे
    4.
    तुम सोच रहे क्या देखोगे
    क्या देखोगे
    गीता का है ज्ञान यहाँ
    मस्ज़िद की अज़ान यहाँ
    गुरवाणी है सदा गूंजती
    धम्म पद का मान यहाँ ,
    जीसस का सम्मान यहाँ तुम देखोगे
    लाजिम है यही तुम देखोगे
    हाँ देखोगे
    5.
    तुम देखोगे,
    तुम सोच रहे क्या देखोगे
    क्या देखोगे
    बुत भी यहाँ और मौला भी
    सूरज भी यहाँ और चंदा भी
    आतंक नहीं चलने देंगे ,
    फिर देश नहीं जलने देंगे
    सत्यम शिवम् और सुंदरम
    मसनद पे बैठा देखोगे
    तुम देखोगे
    लाजिम है यही तुम देखोग
    हाँ देखोगे
    लाजिम है यही तुम देखोग
    हाँ देखोगे .

  • @hshakeem
    @hshakeem 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Remember how the statue of Saddam Hussain was torn down.
    Was that also an act against the RSS.
    I am sure many statues of British rulers were removed after independence. We in Pakistan did remove the statue of Queen Victoria placed in front of the Punjab assambly building in Lahore. Was that an act against Hindutva.

    • @IruTheFatma
      @IruTheFatma 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      These statues are down because they have not done anything good to human kind ,they only spreaded hatred and violence . Give it any name in any country . They all are same with different names . People think they are in power so they can do anything. Only the peace and love will be remembered and appreciated . The truth is we all will die one day , the commen man and the powerful man . Try to spread love and make others life easy ,don't be a trouble maker , karma will always follow you back.

  • @unknown_i.m
    @unknown_i.m 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The last line clears everything that the peom is not anti hindu , " raj karegi khalq e khuda , jo mai bhi hoon aur tum bhi ho .... You and I , the creature of God.

  • @naeemsiddiqui-s8t
    @naeemsiddiqui-s8t 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This Desh Ratan guy is not even funny, he is incorrigible.

  • @morashid6612
    @morashid6612 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome poem by faiz Ahmad faiz ... glad to see so many Indian Muslims explaining this to the bigoted and racist Hindu right wingers about the interpretation of the Urdu poem

  • @saqib..
    @saqib.. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Laazim hai ki hum bhi dekhenge!

  • @jatinjarwal386
    @jatinjarwal386 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The girl on the left is on some serious stare down battle

  • @NileshKumar-nr2vj
    @NileshKumar-nr2vj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Right wing wale kitne gawar h samjh ata 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

  • @syedkaramathullah207
    @syedkaramathullah207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Allah is the symbol of all powerful sources, it is not the name of God alone. In Urdu poetry Khuda or Allah is used for the people who claim that they are ultimate power.

  • @saqib..
    @saqib.. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    nigam calls the lawyer intolerant and deliberately denies the actual meaning of the poem

  • @LifeandSpiceofficial.
    @LifeandSpiceofficial. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He knows the process . Amazing

  • @sujaybms
    @sujaybms 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Are deshratan sahab, savarkar called himself both an athiest and a hindu! Dushyant just said that he was born in a hindu family. You must have asked this question to your god father, "Veer"!!

    • @george4vIogging
      @george4vIogging 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's extraordinary certain modern day Indians consider Bhaghat Singh to the Coward Savarkar.

  • @Peace791
    @Peace791 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Faiz ka poem samjhne k liye dimaag ko ek soch chahiye .. Andh Bhakt Jo pahle se gulaam hain wo nahi samajh sakte

    • @Peace791
      @Peace791 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Amit Jatt yes we are secular .. I am against a group of people who is against constitution & secularism of India not all .. Others are like my brothers & sisters ...!!!
      Do not worry ..!!

  • @srinivasarao7145
    @srinivasarao7145 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    According to NDTV everything said and done by terrorists should be taken positively. I am amazed by the ammount of love NDTV exhibits for terrorists and terror state PAKISTAN. But every country has its own group of traitors..

  • @MrADITYA5597
    @MrADITYA5597 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He literally said that on tv that saying faiz's poem is anti national if it is said against government i can see a dictatorship in this statement

  • @fredikoli5314
    @fredikoli5314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hindutva boys just make your own , you can't reconcile faiz , he is a Pakistani

  • @anirdbify
    @anirdbify 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shame NDTV. RSS guys typically can’t graduate out of high schools. Why would you expect them to understand Faiz, Rabi Thakur or Mir Taqi Mir? These guys talked about universalism and RSS only understands the brit philosophy of divide and rule. Asking RSS about their opinion on Faiz is like asking a 5-year old kid about quantum mechanics.

  • @uzaifasimab5972
    @uzaifasimab5972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Faiz is also laughing from above and seeing that great my poetry is still in viral in 2020

  • @himstien
    @himstien 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Ram ratan dhan payo" should be banned. It implies that Ram was a greedy money minded god