I grew up near the prototype track for this maglev in northern Germany and was able to ride it as a kid (before they closed the track after a tragic accident). It's a shame it never got widely adopted but it's nice it gets used in this one place at least.
A train that is way before its time and has aged exceptionally well. It is hard to believe that it is already 20 years old. The original plan was to use this as a demonstration line and extend it all the way to Beijing. However, the project was shelved in favour of conventional wheeled rolling stock. The rest is history as they say.
Imagine how I was mind blowed in 2007 when this thing went 431kmh, I still remembered I went to the airport and returned only to experience this and had a KFC bucket for lunch
7:45 Taking metro line 2 with luggage from Pudong Airport to Hongqiao is painful, I tried it myself this past August. Carrying check-in size luggage and take a 90 minutes metro, which is always crowded at most of the time (A single line with ridership per day overtaking the whole Berlin U-Bahn) through city center, I don’t want to do that again. Luckily there will be a new airport link connecting Hongqiao Hub to Pudong Airport and Shanghai East station in less than 2 years, reducing travel time about 50% compared to line 2.
The french successfully record a speed of 574.8 km/h on normal track with normal train. Fast train are not that new. But all of them are not financially profitable including this one. Hence why they didn't etend the line beyond the current length.
worth noticing, the rail support of maglev is much narrower than conventional train, so you have a closer look at what is flying under your train and a feeling of a roller coaster ride.
I travelled on this Maglev when I was in Shanghai back in 2007 for a conference, from Longyang rd stn to Pudong and back. It was indeed a great experience. Thanks for the video
Great to see, my, how the Shanghai Metro network has grown!! I visited Shanghai in 2010 to attend Expo 2010 and used this service. My ride was great, smooth, comfortable, and not unduly noisy - I was able to watch as the suburbs whizzed past at 431kph!. At the time the metro did not include the airport and it was necessary to take a taxi to the city centre hotel - that route included the iconic circular road bridge and was a great introduction to the city. Unfortunately the taxi driver on the way back to the Maglev was unhappy he wasn't taking me all the way to the airport, his driving (in the rain) was very erratic indeed. Enjoy your travels in China.
Unfortunately this line is having fewer and fewer ridership nowadays. It has never been a viable public transportation since the ticket is expensive and there's only one single station that's not even in the city center, so most likely you will have to transfer to a metro line after getting off the maglev. While It was a major tourist attraction in the 2000s, now with 350kph+ HSR all over the place not as many people are interested in the Maglev anymore
it is a shame that this line was not constructed to connect the two airports Pudong and Hongqiao, anyhow the new city train line at 160kmh will be completed in a few years and there will be a new high speed train station alongside Pudong airport
ive been on it and its soooo cool and smooth going so fast!! Im chinese-american and we normally take CRH, ive also been to japan and have taking Shinkansen
An incredible ride, I imagine. What's more amazing about maglev performance is its acceleration rather than max speed. There's a low speed maglev in Japan, but has way faster acceleration than a Shinkansen.
I don’t think Shanghai maglev will ever go back to 430 kph again, as the passenger flow for that line is too low to maintain profitable. They have to lower the speed so that lower the maintenance cost. Even though they can still not profit from the line.
@@sawgames8623 the think is meglev in Shanghai should not be treated as a public infrastructure. Pudong airport also has good subway connection, even one subway that goes exactly same as the meglev and it is going to have a railway connection between the two airports later this year. If meglev just disappears, it would not have any impact to the transport from airport to the city at all, so this should not be treated as a part of public infrastructure, otherwise it just spends unnecessary tax money.
The big issue is you gotta change to Line 2 (which departs from Airport) with all heavy luggage being checked on X-ray machine at 龍陽路 metro station. Taking Line 2 directly from airport to city centre saves you money and from problems.
Ni hao and xie xie for the video. I've been on Maglev a couple of times many years ago - really loved it. It was sooo smooth that it was difficult for me to sense much speed difference above 300km/hr. I do remember the Maglev passing in the opposite direction (literally 1s or so) and made everyone, including me, jump! I wasn't aware there was a VIP class - paying £11 rather than £6 is not a big deal.
Yeah, it is only an 11 minute ride. I suspect even the ordinary fare coaches are not crowded - unlike the much slower alternative trains. @@NonstopEurotrip
maybe try to get yourself invited to one of the Chuo-Shinkansen maglev test-runs. I think they are back to doing show runs with passengers multiple times a week now that the Pandemic is over.... it's actually longer & significantly faster (albeit mostly in a tunnel) I know it's basically a ride today... so it is very possible to do.
This is mostly empty whilst Line 2 is always packed. It shows how practicality wins even though Line 2 is not very pleasant for air travellers - it's a city metro line not airport express.
@@stefanosong9314 Public transport in China is not in the business of making money directly. The municipalities (and the whole country in general) seem to have decided that this transport is an essential part of their economy. So the money is actually made when people get to work in time, and businesses are possible and profitable which would otherwise be impossible or more difficult. This concept seems not understood well in the west, esp. when we have the more conservative parties in government.
This monorail still holds the title of the speedy 430. No another countries holding this title of speed in their train.👏🏻💪🏻👊🏻👍🏻🥂❤️🍾 When the two trains meet together and other trains disappear right way.
This maglev line has been in operation for 20 years, and the equipment is very old. In fact, there are maglev lines in Beijing and Changsha, but the speed is only 140km/h. It is a low-speed maglev railway developed by China itself.😂As for the faster 600km/h maglev line, it is still in the discussion stage because the cost is too high, although the train has been developed.
You can google photos of the maglev's driver cab, it looks like complete DIY with a basic office chair not fixed to the ground, a consumer fan and various control systems plugged into an extension cord lying on the ground with the cheapest off the shelf materials everywhere. I would enjoy a ride, but I would never feel safe in that thing
maglev is always on the rail above the bridge and difficult to change lanes, so no need for complex control, I would say it is much easier to do autopilot than conventional trains
The _Transrapid_ system isn't controlled from the train itself. There is a _driver cab style_ compartment, but the only thing a personnel might do here is giving the departure signal.
Great video.. took it a few years ago at the max speed, and also very much enjoyed it albeit Longjiang Rd is a kind of nothing station, and the taxi mafia tries to overcharge tourists. Not sure if it wll be around for much longer, even with the high ticket prices it is typically empty and doesnt make money. The under construction medium speed rail is meant to open in 2024 with a handful of stops between the two airports and much better connections.
This Maglev train was developed originally by Siemens in Germany. Its speed appears to now have been regulated down to 300Km/h which is slower than the new French TGV which can run at 360Km/h. I think the Shanghai Maglev has been throttled due to safety concerns on what is a very short journey.
When I was growing up (I’m now in my mid 70,s) this was forecast as the future of train travel , all these years later it’s still the future for train travel, sometimes even the best of ideas take time to come to fruition, well done the Chinese can’t see it happening here in the UK well in my lifetime anyhow,
I took ride on this train purely for the experience and it did go over 400 km/h. The only thing about this line is that its terminus is not closer to the city center. At the time of construction, this was a demon line in the hope that Beijing - Shanghai high speed line could select the technology.
列車の磨耗を減らすために、何年も前に最高速度が 431km/h から 300km/h に引き下げられました。 To reduce wear and tear on trains, the top speed was reduced from 431km/h to 300km/h many years ago.
Although this is a Maglev operating in Shanghai China, it was built by a German tech corporation. After it was built, China almost decided to build this system everywhere in the country, but finally chose the HSR.
difficult to say city center in large metropolitan Shanghai, but if we compare to same Longyang road station (around east downtown Shanghai), about 45 min
I have ridden it once at full revenue speed. It was cool to try once for the novelty, but unless you are going somewhere near Longyang lu it is not all that convenient. Still well worth the ride for having the bragging rights of having ridden the worlds only remaining maglev in revenue service.
Hate to tell you but I worked for Knorr Bremse uk ltd and our company supplied the brakes for the French TGV that set a record run of 574.8kph (357.2mph) on the then new high speed line between Paris and Strasburg in 2007. They did this to show that you don’t have to go the Maglev way for speed. Mind you it did use a lot of Electricity to do it. This is why first the British then the Germans gave up on the Maglev idea. The British prototype is in Peterborough if you want to see it? Unless it’s rusted away
Ah excellent where do I buy a ticket for this super fast train that's in regular service? (Btw Chinese maglev testing is now at 623km/h @ 70% of power)
@@NonstopEurotrip this was just a fact from a railway engineer didn’t want a diplomatic incident over it. By the way we couldn’t have done the run in England because we don’t have enough atomic power stations unlike France.
it is.... it's just 30 kilometers, so the construction wouldn't have taken much longer elsewhere on the planet. But the planning alone usually takes a decade....
People used to be curious about this back in the day. Today, when China has built around 40,000 km of HSR, its not a novelty. Today its like a white elephant - a line from the airport to nowhere. You can take the metro directly from Airport anyway.
It’s fascinating tech, but I can’t see the logic of a super high speed line that’s only 19 miles long. It’s so short that the time saved versus a conventional train is rather minimal. I can absolutely see this technology being implemented in intercity routes, where it would be very competitive with standard rail or air travel.
strange... I always thought this was advertised as the 505km/h line.... 431km/h will make it slightly slower than the official top track-speed of the Hayabusa/Red train E6... which has a section in can accelerate to 435km/h in perfect conditions (not that this was ever the case when I traveled... even a slight moisture on the track or mist reduces the lines speed to a 380km/h cautionary limit)
running on 300km/h instead of 430km/h is actually for cost saving purpose instead of technical issue... since too few people are riding this train, it is lossing money every day😂
@@NonstopEurotrip but he is right. the trains goes 300 km/h scheduled. Years ago they had early morning and late evening trains going 300 km/h and during the day 430 km/h. They changed that to save energy/money. The newer _Transrapid_ based development CF600 (or CRRC 600) has better aerodynamics. So does the Japanese _SCM L0 Series_ for the _Chuo Shinkansen_ maglev line.
it was in suburban shanghai at that year, although now the departure LongYang road is already downtown and one of reason of degrading speed is noise complaints
1000 km/h train feels like exxageration ,marketing and boasting.something like a politician would say without even thinking or consulting.devoid of reality .i think people fawn over everything with a bigger number without analyzing.
@@NonstopEurotrip They're probably trying to say that the maglev they have in japan is faster, at least that's what I got. Though we won't hear much from that hyperfast maglev until at least 2027 :/
I don't know about the technical issues which were mentioned in the video. The train can go easily 500 km/h theoretically, but not on this curved track design. The train did 430 km/h during the day before they reduced the top speed to 300 km/h. The air resistance caused high energy consumption. The latest model using the _Transrapid_ technology is called CF600 (or CRRC 600) is built for up to 600 km/h and has better aerodynamics. The same applies to the Japanese _SCM L0 Series_ for the _Chuo Shinkansen_ maglev line. They wanna go 600 km/h as well and have a 15 meter _nose_ to reduce air resistance.
Great short trip. Absolutely agree, Maglev is the future of Ground Transportation that make sense around decades or centuries, rather than Hyperloop or Vaccum Tube Train. Ah yes, a whole VIP Cabin for yourself.
Not really. It takes $50-100 for a comparable distance taxi ride to JFK airport in NY. $11 for a state-of-the-art maglev ride is peanuts. I think you severely lack perspective.
@@sawgames8623 your point is true for wage of US. But in China, especially in Shanghai, a fare of 80 yuan is already very expensive compared to the average subway fare of 5 yuan.
The magnetic levitation is really money sucking to care or maintenance that's way in the world only in Shanghai 😂😂 maybe later on China uses their own magnetic levitation system to make a new line
The chinese developments are based on the _Transrapid_ system. So there won't be a _own magnetic levitation system._ There is a different approach in Japan, but their technology consumes far more energy for levitation. That's why the Japanese system uses wheels uo to a speed of 150 km/h. With higher speeds rolling resistance get more important and becomes the money sucker, thats why levitation makes sense after all.
Speed isn't limited due to technical difficulties, it's permanently limited, I guess due to low ridership and high running costs. China's high speed trains achieve faster speeds than the maglev in it's current limited speed, so not even worth riding to boast about going fast. The maglev is a gimmick. It's much more expensive than the subway and as someone else already mentioned, you most likely will need to take the subway anyway to reach your final destination, at which point might as well just take the subway the whole way for cheapness or a taxi for comfort. Would be AWESOME if it went to Hongqiao but it doesn't. I know this video is sponsored and all, but you could have explained better how this service is actually one of the few in China that doesn't really fit well into the usually amazing public transport network.
@@luisramos123 the train still runs at 431kmh on 'special occasions'. In fact it did the week prior to my visit. When the new HSR link between PVG and SHA opens I imagine the Maglev will be closed soon after anyway.
honestly what we see here looks like just an exibition project. I suspect real cost price of the ride is much higher than you paid but nevetheless we have not seen too many pax. all this comfort does not look adequate to the travel lengh and station staff that manually opens the latch seems ridiculous
This train was built in Germany. How does that ensure that only the Chinese can build a train that runs 600km. Could it be that because they can't come up with technology on their own but are experts in copying they can now improve on existing technology having saved all the development time and cost.
@@rm83689 Why would that be. Maybe because of the cost involved it is financially not viable? Is it really that important to get there in 8 minutes if you can get there in 15 at half the cost? Ask Disney what happened to its Maglev in Future land. It is no more. Why? Because their is no future in Maglev?
@@cestmoi1262 Who told you that you can get there in 15 mins at half the cost? Yourself? Lol Btw, saying that the Chinese are experts in copying maglev is the same as saying that all countries are experts at copying railroad technology from Britain (the first country to build a railroad).
@@cestmoi1262 maglev would be the better choice, if it would be about building a network from the scratch. But in germany and western europe we do have a rail network which is amost as good. Most interesting markets would be america and states in the middle east and asia which don't have an existing infrastructure.
@@mariokrings Germany grew up on rails, cars came much laterwhile America grew up on wheels. For long distance trains took over and then planes. Germany from North to South is approx. 500 miles, US from East to West is 3,000 mile. If I want to see the countryside I take my car. If I want to get there fast I'll take a plane and rent a car. Notice: no train involved. The convenience and freedom that a car offers cannot be overlooked and Americans have never let go of that convenience.
Perhaps the UK can afford to have Maglev trains instead of HS2 which would make journey times lot more quicker from London to Birmingham and the North of England. Taiwan has Maglev trains and so does Japan.
I don't about the details of HS2, but isn't already under construction? A big pro about the _Transrapid_ maglev is, that it can climb steeper inclinations. That can save money if tunnels or bridges get obsolete. A big con is, that an expensive Transrapid HS can only serve those maglev trains. You can't realize other connections using this infrastructure except you connect thss destinations with Transrapid as well. There is a hybrid track though, with rails on the transrapid track meant to be used in already existing train stations. That allowes the station management to let traditional trains board/deboard when there's no maglev at the platform.
there is nothing INSANE about this; it is 40+ years old technology; it fell out of interest of general public long ago; it is pure showcase, hardly any practical use
I can't understand why and old technology (maglev's patent was registrated in 1934) is not used right now. May be its because you have to renew all your tracks and spend a lot of energy just to make this "train" flying. It is not future it is just an economical nonsense. Have you ever seen a network with this 90 yo technology?
@@NonstopEurotrip older. But it has never been replaced by maglev or aérotrain or Hyperloop. Those technologies are old and consume too much energy. This is not future for mass transit or freight.
@@MrZepeg the _Transrapid_ was market-ready in the early 90ies. By that time Spain, France, Italy and Germany were already planing/building their first high speed tracks. Germany is too populated for a maglev to make much sense. Maybe on single connections, but that would have menat zero integration. France developed it's TGV and would have never bought a german train instead of it's own development. Spain would have made a lot of sense, because they had no proper rail network and used broad gauge back then. They built their hight speed network from the scratch. Spain got huge distances and would have been an excellent market for the _Transrapid_ technology. But the transrapid came just 5-10 years too late. Aerotrains are dead since the mid-70ies and the Hyperloop is far away from being market-ready.
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I love China❤
Well, anything from India this winter.....?👀
@@northeastern_steamie maybe January ✌🏻
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I grew up near the prototype track for this maglev in northern Germany and was able to ride it as a kid (before they closed the track after a tragic accident). It's a shame it never got widely adopted but it's nice it gets used in this one place at least.
A train that is way before its time and has aged exceptionally well. It is hard to believe that it is already 20 years old. The original plan was to use this as a demonstration line and extend it all the way to Beijing. However, the project was shelved in favour of conventional wheeled rolling stock. The rest is history as they say.
It's not financially viable.
坊间传闻很多有人说辐射大(这说法不靠谱,毕竟在运营)我感觉应该是成本太高,
@@nntflow7058yes it is
Imagine how I was mind blowed in 2007 when this thing went 431kmh, I still remembered I went to the airport and returned only to experience this and had a KFC bucket for lunch
Just no one will choose to take it in shanghai, unless they are really in a hurry, because that ticket is too expensive.
7:45 Taking metro line 2 with luggage from Pudong Airport to Hongqiao is painful, I tried it myself this past August. Carrying check-in size luggage and take a 90 minutes metro, which is always crowded at most of the time (A single line with ridership per day overtaking the whole Berlin U-Bahn) through city center, I don’t want to do that again. Luckily there will be a new airport link connecting Hongqiao Hub to Pudong Airport and Shanghai East station in less than 2 years, reducing travel time about 50% compared to line 2.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the fact that a train that can goes 431 km/h has been running for 20 years.
German Transrapid, development started in 1969 and reached "fielding maturity" in 1991.
@@Ryan_Winter German technology is amazing😮💨
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China is also great. Just have a look how Shanghai develops and at the Belt and Road Initiative by the great leader Xi Jinping. 👍
The french successfully record a speed of 574.8 km/h on normal track with normal train.
Fast train are not that new. But all of them are not financially profitable including this one. Hence why they didn't etend the line beyond the current length.
@@nntflow7058
Naaaah... We India with the hyperloop successfully record 1200 km/h .
This is currently the fastest train globally accessible to the public, with no other surpassing its speed.
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yet
You miss the moment when two trains meet. It's very impressive
worth noticing, the rail support of maglev is much narrower than conventional train, so you have a closer look at what is flying under your train and a feeling of a roller coaster ride.
I travelled on this Maglev when I was in Shanghai back in 2007 for a conference, from Longyang rd stn to Pudong and back. It was indeed a great experience. Thanks for the video
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏻
The fact that the lady is shock that someone going to VIP Class that nobody's guarding the door
Great to see, my, how the Shanghai Metro network has grown!! I visited Shanghai in 2010 to attend Expo 2010 and used this service. My ride was great, smooth, comfortable, and not unduly noisy - I was able to watch as the suburbs whizzed past at 431kph!. At the time the metro did not include the airport and it was necessary to take a taxi to the city centre hotel - that route included the iconic circular road bridge and was a great introduction to the city. Unfortunately the taxi driver on the way back to the Maglev was unhappy he wasn't taking me all the way to the airport, his driving (in the rain) was very erratic indeed. Enjoy your travels in China.
Unfortunately this line is having fewer and fewer ridership nowadays. It has never been a viable public transportation since the ticket is expensive and there's only one single station that's not even in the city center, so most likely you will have to transfer to a metro line after getting off the maglev. While It was a major tourist attraction in the 2000s, now with 350kph+ HSR all over the place not as many people are interested in the Maglev anymore
it is a shame that this line was not constructed to connect the two airports Pudong and Hongqiao, anyhow the new city train line at 160kmh will be completed in a few years and there will be a new high speed train station alongside Pudong airport
Yes, it’s a hassle to have to get off at Longyang station and take a cab if staying at Puxi.
ive been on it and its soooo cool and smooth going so fast!! Im chinese-american and we normally take CRH, ive also been to japan and have taking Shinkansen
An incredible ride, I imagine.
What's more amazing about maglev performance is its acceleration rather than max speed. There's a low speed maglev in Japan, but has way faster acceleration than a Shinkansen.
Yeah agree faster acceleration on same distance leading to much higher avg speeds
Exactly Luke 👍🏻
I don’t think Shanghai maglev will ever go back to 430 kph again, as the passenger flow for that line is too low to maintain profitable. They have to lower the speed so that lower the maintenance cost. Even though they can still not profit from the line.
Also, those train have a shaking problem when running at 430 kph, it was pretty annoying.
@@Kalston558only one trainset has that problem because of lack of maintenance. Proper trainsets don't shake at all
Profit should not be the goal for public infrastructure projects. That is short-sighted, western thinking.
@@sawgames8623 the think is meglev in Shanghai should not be treated as a public infrastructure. Pudong airport also has good subway connection, even one subway that goes exactly same as the meglev and it is going to have a railway connection between the two airports later this year. If meglev just disappears, it would not have any impact to the transport from airport to the city at all, so this should not be treated as a part of public infrastructure, otherwise it just spends unnecessary tax money.
@@Kalston558 the maglev line is more of a tourist destination or business traveller exclusive thing
Japanese are already planning and building the Chūō Shinkansen. Maglev line from tokyo to Nagoya and from there to Osaka...
The big issue is you gotta change to Line 2 (which departs from Airport) with all heavy luggage being checked on X-ray machine at 龍陽路 metro station.
Taking Line 2 directly from airport to city centre saves you money and from problems.
Exactly as I said
Ni hao and xie xie for the video. I've been on Maglev a couple of times many years ago - really loved it. It was sooo smooth that it was difficult for me to sense much speed difference above 300km/hr. I do remember the Maglev passing in the opposite direction (literally 1s or so) and made everyone, including me, jump! I wasn't aware there was a VIP class - paying £11 rather than £6 is not a big deal.
True yeah, I probably wouldn't do it again if I wasn't filming 😎
Yeah, it is only an 11 minute ride. I suspect even the ordinary fare coaches are not crowded - unlike the much slower alternative trains. @@NonstopEurotrip
maybe try to get yourself invited to one of the Chuo-Shinkansen maglev test-runs.
I think they are back to doing show runs with passengers multiple times a week now that the Pandemic is over.... it's actually longer & significantly faster (albeit mostly in a tunnel)
I know it's basically a ride today... so it is very possible to do.
I'll try, for sure!
Oh I'm absolutely surprised that you made it longer than 10 minutes 😂
short montage of the museum you mentioned would've been great
I can't include everything and I'm sure you can use Google
This is mostly empty whilst Line 2 is always packed. It shows how practicality wins even though Line 2 is not very pleasant for air travellers - it's a city metro line not airport express.
Exactly as I said
if it sells at 10 yuan maybe it will change but for sure losing money
@@stefanosong9314 Public transport in China is not in the business of making money directly. The municipalities (and the whole country in general) seem to have decided that this transport is an essential part of their economy. So the money is actually made when people get to work in time, and businesses are possible and profitable which would otherwise be impossible or more difficult. This concept seems not understood well in the west, esp. when we have the more conservative parties in government.
China is such a fascinating country
Yes, it is, especially now with Evergrande
This monorail still holds the title of the speedy 430. No another countries holding this title of speed in their train.👏🏻💪🏻👊🏻👍🏻🥂❤️🍾 When the two trains meet together and other trains disappear right way.
This maglev line has been in operation for 20 years, and the equipment is very old. In fact, there are maglev lines in Beijing and Changsha, but the speed is only 140km/h. It is a low-speed maglev railway developed by China itself.😂As for the faster 600km/h maglev line, it is still in the discussion stage because the cost is too high, although the train has been developed.
Not in Japan it isn't...
L-M-Shinkansenの工事は既に始まっています。実験線と称していたものを東京、名古屋方面へ延長するだけですから。
Excellent
@NonstopEurotrip can you make videos on currently on construction high speed lines like HS2, MAHSR, CALIFORNIA high speed rail,....
Sorry,.not my thing!
You can google photos of the maglev's driver cab, it looks like complete DIY with a basic office chair not fixed to the ground, a consumer fan and various control systems plugged into an extension cord lying on the ground with the cheapest off the shelf materials everywhere. I would enjoy a ride, but I would never feel safe in that thing
maglev is always on the rail above the bridge and difficult to change lanes, so no need for complex control, I would say it is much easier to do autopilot than conventional trains
The _Transrapid_ system isn't controlled from the train itself. There is a _driver cab style_ compartment, but the only thing a personnel might do here is giving the departure signal.
Great video.. took it a few years ago at the max speed, and also very much enjoyed it albeit Longjiang Rd is a kind of nothing station, and the taxi mafia tries to overcharge tourists.
Not sure if it wll be around for much longer, even with the high ticket prices it is typically empty and doesnt make money.
The under construction medium speed rail is meant to open in 2024 with a handful of stops between the two airports and much better connections.
I can't wait to try it 😁
20yrs in service is quite evident. Shabby green seat covers.
i once travelled in this it was awesome experience
This Maglev train was developed originally by Siemens in Germany. Its speed appears to now have been regulated down to 300Km/h which is slower than the new French TGV which can run at 360Km/h. I think the Shanghai Maglev has been throttled due to safety concerns on what is a very short journey.
No line is France is approved for more than 320kmh
You missed the opportunity to mention and film the Maglev passing in the other direction. It's the best way to get a perspective of your speed.
Not really
Great video cool train perfect for travel
Thank you very much!
When I was growing up (I’m now in my mid 70,s) this was forecast as the future of train travel , all these years later it’s still the future for train travel, sometimes even the best of ideas take time to come to fruition, well done the Chinese can’t see it happening here in the UK well in my lifetime anyhow,
It's very much happening in Japan rn
I took ride on this train purely for the experience and it did go over 400 km/h. The only thing about this line is that its terminus is not closer to the city center. At the time of construction, this was a demon line in the hope that Beijing - Shanghai high speed line could select the technology.
But now Longyang road is no doubt downtown Shanghai
there were a few train times u must have travel the slow train times , there is many videos that show it went 431km.h
I‘ve had the luck - back in the days - as the TRANSRAPID was tested on his track nearby Lathen (Emsland)/Germany to get a ride at 350 km/h (217 mi/h)
It's a shame they don't run at 431 anymore!
列車の磨耗を減らすために、何年も前に最高速度が 431km/h から 300km/h に引き下げられました。
To reduce wear and tear on trains, the top speed was reduced from 431km/h to 300km/h many years ago.
It still runs at 431 certain times of the day, apparently
Although this is a Maglev operating in Shanghai China, it was built by a German tech corporation. After it was built, China almost decided to build this system everywhere in the country, but finally chose the HSR.
As mentioned in the video
I traveled there in 1991. NONE of this was available or even envisioned.
Great video !!
Thanks!
Hiow long does the metro take to get to the airport?
To the centre, about 40 minutes
difficult to say city center in large metropolitan Shanghai, but if we compare to same Longyang road station (around east downtown Shanghai), about 45 min
Wow
I have ridden it once at full revenue speed. It was cool to try once for the novelty, but unless you are going somewhere near Longyang lu it is not all that convenient. Still well worth the ride for having the bragging rights of having ridden the worlds only remaining maglev in revenue service.
Wish I'd had the chance 😹
Smooth looking ride!
It was!
@@NonstopEurotrip Keep up the GREAT WORK SIR!
@@JoseMoreira-vo8cu 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Unfortunately,because of the aging track and train,the operating speed is only 300km/h for all days.
Sad times 😭
我国在大面积建设高铁之前,有高铁/磁悬浮路线之争,所以才建设了这条试验性质的磁悬浮线。以考察磁悬浮在实际运营中的建造成本/运营成本/对周边的影响等等。
最终我国放弃了磁悬浮路线。这才有了后续的高铁爆炸式发展。
磁悬浮有优点,但缺点太多。
正因为这本质上是一条试验线路,才让这条线路更显得难能可贵。我建议每一位没乘坐过的,在前往或离开浦东机场时,体验一下这条线路。
I can't wait to try them over a much longer distance!
@@NonstopEurotriphe meant it’s not gonna happen, unfortunately, but I think Japan has longer maglev ones? not fact checked 🤔
@@radiosparrow851 not yet, but soon
@@NonstopEurotrip soon....ish: constructions are paused as far as I know.
China is living in future.
Amen 🙌🏻
Hate to tell you but I worked for Knorr Bremse uk ltd and our company supplied the brakes for the French TGV that set a record run of 574.8kph (357.2mph) on the then new high speed line between Paris and Strasburg in 2007. They did this to show that you don’t have to go the Maglev way for speed. Mind you it did use a lot of Electricity to do it. This is why first the British then the Germans gave up on the Maglev idea. The British prototype is in Peterborough if you want to see it? Unless it’s rusted away
Ah excellent where do I buy a ticket for this super fast train that's in regular service?
(Btw Chinese maglev testing is now at 623km/h @ 70% of power)
@@NonstopEurotrip this was just a fact from a railway engineer didn’t want a diplomatic incident over it. By the way we couldn’t have done the run in England because we don’t have enough atomic power stations unlike France.
L-M-Shinkansenは1979年に517km/hを、2015年に603km/hを達成しています。500km/hでの安全静音営業速度を目指しています。
That will be amazing 🤩
When I saw the VIP on the ticket, I was like: "that thing exists??" 😂
They built it in 3 YEARS??? Wtf that’s crazy
it is.... it's just 30 kilometers, so the construction wouldn't have taken much longer elsewhere on the planet. But the planning alone usually takes a decade....
@@mariokrings india took 10 years to buy only 10 km
It's been going for decades. Meanwhile in London the Heathrow airport express goes for more than double the ticket price and less than half the speed.
Amen 🙌🏻
Worlds fastest train, that isnt on tracks
People used to be curious about this back in the day. Today, when China has built around 40,000 km of HSR, its not a novelty. Today its like a white elephant - a line from the airport to nowhere. You can take the metro directly from Airport anyway.
China should build 500,000 km of HSR
Is the ride quality superior to conventional rail?
Far better!
Yes it’s far better due to lack of friction it’s like flying on rails much smoother ride
smooth but terrifying when the other train on the opposite line flashes by, because the shock wave of air will push your train out for a blink of eye.
I’ve a 2 hour stopover at Pudong next month and would love to ride this. I wonder if I dare risk a ride there and back, anyone done it?
I doubt that they will let you leave the airport for that time
The country's showpiece of modernity 20 years ago. Expensive to have and maintain.
Indeed
Great one 👌
Thanks ✌️
It’s fascinating tech, but I can’t see the logic of a super high speed line that’s only 19 miles long. It’s so short that the time saved versus a conventional train is rather minimal. I can absolutely see this technology being implemented in intercity routes, where it would be very competitive with standard rail or air travel.
I guess the technology wasn't quite ready for full roll out yet
Have you been to the Maglev Exhibition Center in Japan where you can see the maglevs at 500kmh? 🤩
Saya pernah ke wakanda mengunjungi stan pameran Maglev dgn kecepatan 8500 km/jam 👍 😂😂
@@acuantjahyadi7393that section will be part of the whole line in the future.
Not yet!!
@@NonstopEurotrip Definitely worth the trip. 👍
I have tried the vip twice.
Me too :)
How does maglev switch tracks in case of a blockage on the line?
The whole tracks moves!
Relieving vids
WOW WOW WOW !!!
I wonder how they get spare parts for it?...
Probably fab themselves
it goes almost 25 years now.
20 actually
strange... I always thought this was advertised as the 505km/h line....
431km/h will make it slightly slower than the official top track-speed of the Hayabusa/Red train E6... which has a section in can accelerate to 435km/h in perfect conditions (not that this was ever the case when I traveled... even a slight moisture on the track or mist reduces the lines speed to a 380km/h cautionary limit)
It's always limited to 320 in service tho
but maglev has a commercial speed of 431, which is top even today
Nice 😊
It looks so unassuming. Hard to imagine its the fastest train on earth.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating!
The scmaglev would like a word with you, passengers have been taking it on and off for quite some time now
Ikr 😆
In Deutschland wurde er entwickelt und hieß Transrapid. Leider war und ist die Auto- Lobby zu stark das sie den Bau hier verhindert hat.
running on 300km/h instead of 430km/h is actually for cost saving purpose instead of technical issue... since too few people are riding this train, it is lossing money every day😂
Not according to the staff
🤣
@@NonstopEurotrip but he is right. the trains goes 300 km/h scheduled. Years ago they had early morning and late evening trains going 300 km/h and during the day 430 km/h. They changed that to save energy/money. The newer _Transrapid_ based development CF600 (or CRRC 600) has better aerodynamics. So does the Japanese _SCM L0 Series_ for the _Chuo Shinkansen_ maglev line.
Who would have thought the Jetsons would happen in China before America.
😆😆😆
They constructed 30km in two freaking years?
As a trial for larger projects
it was in suburban shanghai at that year, although now the departure LongYang road is already downtown and one of reason of degrading speed is noise complaints
india 10km in 10 years
World's fastest antique train, ever since Transrapid folded. The tech lives on in current CRRC r&d whose prototype you blipped on screen
Are you aware what antique means
1000 km/h train feels like exxageration ,marketing and boasting.something like a politician would say without even thinking or consulting.devoid of reality .i think people fawn over everything with a bigger number without analyzing.
Shanghai - Hangzhou 1000 km/h low vacuum maglev is under construction and will be finished in 2025. That's two years later.
@@sunnywu2464i think you are smoking the same stuff elon musk is smoking.monkey brain sees big number monkey believes everything.
@shanjida8353 Know how to use Google? Find out what comes out in searching : Shanghai Hangzhou China hyperloop .
@@sunnywu2464 thats not true =)
Did you travel with doc7austin?
I didn't.
No, he often travels with Superalbs on these kind of trips 😉
@@paulthiel5145 both excellent TH-camrs
Boa viagem lindo trem mas rápido do Japão bom dia 1:35
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@@NonstopEurotrip They're probably trying to say that the maglev they have in japan is faster, at least that's what I got. Though we won't hear much from that hyperfast maglev until at least 2027 :/
@@WildWildWeasel he's Brazilian
@@NonstopEurotrip I know, that's Brazilian Portuguese. They probably messed up what they were trying to say or just didn't think too much when typing
it could be nice if it reached 400+ but its fine
I don't know about the technical issues which were mentioned in the video. The train can go easily 500 km/h theoretically, but not on this curved track design. The train did 430 km/h during the day before they reduced the top speed to 300 km/h. The air resistance caused high energy consumption. The latest model using the _Transrapid_ technology is called CF600 (or CRRC 600) is built for up to 600 km/h and has better aerodynamics. The same applies to the Japanese _SCM L0 Series_ for the _Chuo Shinkansen_ maglev line. They wanna go 600 km/h as well and have a 15 meter _nose_ to reduce air resistance.
Great short trip. Absolutely agree, Maglev is the future of Ground Transportation that make sense around decades or centuries, rather than Hyperloop or Vaccum Tube Train. Ah yes, a whole VIP Cabin for yourself.
Let's hope so, I can't wait to ride the full Japanese and Chinese versions soon!
I have a lifetime ticket. That means I can travel freely if I ever come back to Shanghai.
Amazing 😍
That 80 yuan per ride ticket is toooooooo expensive
11 usa , than u should stay home or u from a very poor country
Not really. It takes $50-100 for a comparable distance taxi ride to JFK airport in NY. $11 for a state-of-the-art maglev ride is peanuts. I think you severely lack perspective.
@@sawgames8623 your point is true for wage of US. But in China, especially in Shanghai, a fare of 80 yuan is already very expensive compared to the average subway fare of 5 yuan.
The magnetic levitation is really money sucking to care or maintenance that's way in the world only in Shanghai 😂😂 maybe later on China uses their own magnetic levitation system to make a new line
Japan 🙁
The chinese developments are based on the _Transrapid_ system. So there won't be a _own magnetic levitation system._ There is a different approach in Japan, but their technology consumes far more energy for levitation. That's why the Japanese system uses wheels uo to a speed of 150 km/h. With higher speeds rolling resistance get more important and becomes the money sucker, thats why levitation makes sense after all.
Nice Nice Nice
Thanks 👍🏻
He Never Make About Bangladesh Railway😢😢
Because I've never been
China in Europe? Who would have known?
Speed isn't limited due to technical difficulties, it's permanently limited, I guess due to low ridership and high running costs. China's high speed trains achieve faster speeds than the maglev in it's current limited speed, so not even worth riding to boast about going fast. The maglev is a gimmick. It's much more expensive than the subway and as someone else already mentioned, you most likely will need to take the subway anyway to reach your final destination, at which point might as well just take the subway the whole way for cheapness or a taxi for comfort. Would be AWESOME if it went to Hongqiao but it doesn't. I know this video is sponsored and all, but you could have explained better how this service is actually one of the few in China that doesn't really fit well into the usually amazing public transport network.
@@luisramos123 the train still runs at 431kmh on 'special occasions'. In fact it did the week prior to my visit. When the new HSR link between PVG and SHA opens I imagine the Maglev will be closed soon after anyway.
@NonstopEurotrip oh I didn't know they were building that link, good to know, looks like it'll open soon too. It's much needed.
honestly what we see here looks like just an exibition project. I suspect real cost price of the ride is much higher than you paid but nevetheless we have not seen too many pax.
all this comfort does not look adequate to the travel lengh and station staff that manually opens the latch seems ridiculous
I mean, it was built as a test case
Fvあか赤城山
This train was built in Germany. How does that ensure that only the Chinese can build a train that runs 600km. Could it be that because they can't come up with technology on their own but are experts in copying they can now improve on existing technology having saved all the development time and cost.
But Germany has already scrapped its maglev though
@@rm83689 Why would that be. Maybe because of the cost involved it is financially not viable? Is it really that important to get there in 8 minutes if you can get there in 15 at half the cost? Ask Disney what happened to its Maglev in Future land. It is no more. Why? Because their is no future in Maglev?
@@cestmoi1262 Who told you that you can get there in 15 mins at half the cost? Yourself? Lol
Btw, saying that the Chinese are experts in copying maglev is the same as saying that all countries are experts at copying railroad technology from Britain (the first country to build a railroad).
@@cestmoi1262 maglev would be the better choice, if it would be about building a network from the scratch. But in germany and western europe we do have a rail network which is amost as good. Most interesting markets would be america and states in the middle east and asia which don't have an existing infrastructure.
@@mariokrings Germany grew up on rails, cars came much laterwhile America grew up on wheels. For long distance trains took over and then planes. Germany from North to South is approx. 500 miles, US from East to West is 3,000 mile. If I want to see the countryside I take my car. If I want to get there fast I'll take a plane and rent a car. Notice: no train involved. The convenience and freedom that a car offers cannot be overlooked and Americans have never let go of that convenience.
Perhaps the UK can afford to have Maglev trains instead of HS2 which would make journey times lot more quicker from London to Birmingham and the North of England. Taiwan has Maglev trains and so does Japan.
I doubt it Andrew 🤣
I don't about the details of HS2, but isn't already under construction? A big pro about the _Transrapid_ maglev is, that it can climb steeper inclinations. That can save money if tunnels or bridges get obsolete. A big con is, that an expensive Transrapid HS can only serve those maglev trains. You can't realize other connections using this infrastructure except you connect thss destinations with Transrapid as well. There is a hybrid track though, with rails on the transrapid track meant to be used in already existing train stations. That allowes the station management to let traditional trains board/deboard when there's no maglev at the platform.
Why run on the road when you can fly.
Because you can't fly here
Your video is longer than the actual train ride.
Impressive, right?
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there is nothing INSANE about this; it is 40+ years old technology; it fell out of interest of general public long ago; it is pure showcase, hardly any practical use
And will soon be back in everyday use
I can't understand why and old technology (maglev's patent was registrated in 1934) is not used right now. May be its because you have to renew all your tracks and spend a lot of energy just to make this "train" flying. It is not future it is just an economical nonsense. Have you ever seen a network with this 90 yo technology?
And conventional railway was made in what year?
@@NonstopEurotrip older. But it has never been replaced by maglev or aérotrain or Hyperloop.
Those technologies are old and consume too much energy. This is not future for mass transit or freight.
@@MrZepeg the _Transrapid_ was market-ready in the early 90ies. By that time Spain, France, Italy and Germany were already planing/building their first high speed tracks. Germany is too populated for a maglev to make much sense. Maybe on single connections, but that would have menat zero integration. France developed it's TGV and would have never bought a german train instead of it's own development. Spain would have made a lot of sense, because they had no proper rail network and used broad gauge back then. They built their hight speed network from the scratch. Spain got huge distances and would have been an excellent market for the _Transrapid_ technology. But the transrapid came just 5-10 years too late.
Aerotrains are dead since the mid-70ies and the Hyperloop is far away from being market-ready.
But the west think its fake 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
the train is a german development, so I doubt that _the west thinks its a fake..._
@@mariokrings Ask Americans. They'll just cope and seethe about this being fake all day and all night.
So.........
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India will have a high-speed train with a speed of 800 kilometers per hour in the future
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And it will be absolutely silent and invisible too! 🙂
I suppose, you refer to some kind of "Hyperloop"-system?
Forget it, won't happen!
the dreamer 😂😂😂😂
meanwhile Indians are lucky to travel with 80 km/h.... 😛
india do not even have high speed train in 2024