JayzTwoCents didn't waste his money on the SM7b! He's using it wrong! (The Proximity Effect)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
- Always makes me sad when someone buys nice gear but they don't get the results they were hoping for. JayzTwoCents recently picked up an SM7b, but couldn't get the tone he wanted. Here's a quick explanation as to WHY his mic under-performed!
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WARNING TO HEADPHONE USERS! There's a room tone test around five minutes in. I completely suck for not warning you about when my voice comes back at full volume. 5:02, you want to turn your headphones down. Sincere apologies! I hate nasty little surprises like that.
Thank you!! lol
What? I can't hear you...
He said EQ but its actually a Mixer. Correct?
it definitely got me right as i cranked lol
@@kalijasin You EQ with the mixer, that's what those green knobs were for.
Lol! I used to work as a photographer and my boss was always saying, "Photoshop at the lense, less work for the post guys."
YYYYYYYEEEEEEESSSSS!
Im not a big fan of "fix it in post" guys...
That’s why I started film photography a few years ago. I prefer to do it right the first time or suffer the consequences. People rely way too much on photoshop now and often make their photos overly processed and lack real natural qualities
A good quality lens will help. Probably the best thing is persistence. Keep practicing and keep making mistakes. Keep failing and eventually you’ll get it right and be better than most people.
I really love dynamic mics for the sole reason that they are good at isolating background noise. Everytime in a discord call, I would always hear my friend's keyboard taps, dog barking, thunderstorms, his parent's yells, him closing the door, all because he was convinced that the Blue Yeti is "the best mic in the world" and "everyone on youtube was using it".
Yup! People don't seem to get the idea of "right tool for the job"...
I love how condenser mics are advertised as studio quality microphone as a selling point and streamers go ahead and make a purchase based on that, when their stream room is not a studio, let alone them having complete control over the noises in the room, like the PC, AC unit, fan, or TV which is also in the room.
Your comment sums up my mic history perfectly. I bought the Blue Yeti Pro because it has great specs, has stereo mode, could be used as either a USB or XLR mic and the price was about what I was looking to spend. I didn't really grasp that condenser mics pick up a fly farting from a 100 yards away. That room fan and fan in my ps4 sounded like a freight train. Uggg
So I bought the Shure SM7B mostly because it was supposed to be the best dynamic mic at rejecting background noise. Lesson learned.
@@AnthonyGoodley You really don't need the SM7B to reject noise but if it works for you, it works for you
One of the most honest videos on mics I've seen! A buddy of mine wanted to stream on Twitch, and I suggested an SM58 or 57. He scoffed since his condenser was significantly more expensive, but the cheaper mics sounded significantly better. It's worth noting that you might want decent preamps if you plan on using an SM7b, as it is VERY quiet by default. Awesome video! First one I've seen, and I subbed!
Would you recommend the mv7 to anyone?
Love these sorts of vids from you...I just got educated!
Happy to help 😊
the sm7b sounds so good man, glad you clear this stuff
This is probably one of the best responses I ever seen. You not only explained the issue in a calm fashion, but also addressed it in a very humbling way!
I applaud you my good sir!
As a Sound Engineer myself. I couldn't explain it better myself what throwing too many technical terminology in the mix because of my personality lol
I tend to be to passionate about technicalities.
Well done sir! I commend you!
Love the helpful tips here!
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Really happy to see someone who likes and uses like the SM57. Makes me feel a lot better about the SM58 I just ordered.
I can't figure out why every mic review everywhere uses the $400 SM7B as their baseline comparison, even for cheap mics. I think there's a lot of noobs like myself that would be better off with a $100 vocal mic like the SM58 (or a Podmic if you can find one right now). For $100, you're spending enough to get a professional-grade mic, and you have an extra $300 left over for a nicer interface and creature comforts like a spring loaded mic boom and a shock mount.
If you can’t record it with a 57 you probably can’t record it
Finally , opening a video and learn something , everything become ad this days .
Dude... this was super interesting. For a message of "just move the mic closer to your face", you made a very informative and entertaining video. And your personality fits very well with the type of videos you create. Cheers
I like to show my work 👍
I subbed to Jay when he was at 70-80k subs. I watched him grow to more than a million and you know what, I'm seeing the same drive in you as well.
Professional response, clear video editing, and vocal personality comes through well.
Your thumbnails might need some extra touch up. Touch them up and choose a style you enjoy and stick with it so people can pick out and recognize your videos in the recommendation area. This can be important if a sub missed a video from you, they will be able to pick it up in their peripheral vision easier.
Second improvement I would recommend is dynamic B-roll, I lightly touched into other videos and you did have B-roll. They were however mostly static shots and single direction. Getting a camera gimbal might be helpful in capturing rotational b-roll shots, or even a lazy susan.
I look forward to your growth, liked and subbed.
This is a great, constructive response to Jay's issues. subscribed!
Figured it was in my wheelhouse. 🙂
Yeah I can't believe his soundguy didn't help him out!
Oh you know for a fact his sound guy just sat there with a smile on his face. Be realistic xD I'd so do that.
Sm7b here as my first mic. I didn’t want to regret it later and have to upgrade. Glad I went with it
same, feel like I made the right choice
Excellent news ... my 57 is 40 years old... still runs, no problem :)
Some day I'll switch out my 57 for my 56 😊
Yes yes yes, this!! Thank you JCB for making this video, and especially so quickly after Jay's video came out. I saw his demo and immediately scrolled down to the comments to find stuff about proximity effect. My other opinion about Jay's video is that with audio, you can often get 80% of the results for 20% of the price. But that extra 20% quality is what people pay for in recording studios.
And often that last 20% is only a benefit when you have the technique down.
@@SomeGadgetGuy I totally agree. Again, that's what you're paying the studio for. And if you're not paying the studio, well, chances are you're doing the learning. Which, IMO, is more fun!
It's so weird to think i was picking up mic technique tricks from an old studio engineer twenty years ago. Damn. I'm the old guy now...
@@SomeGadgetGuy Haha, I always love learning new mic'ing tricks. I've been the primary or assistant engineer for over 20 theater productions (mostly youth shows), and I learn a new awesome trick almost every time. Thank you for sharing your tips and tricks, they're awesome!
Best part of the job!
Thank you for making this. A podcast I listen to use to have 'mic talk' back in the day but it was hard to find when they talked about it.
People don't cover audio like they do other disciplines.
I just bought an SM7B and I’m just gonna plug it right into my Apogee Duet II and use those pres.
I'd also like to add that a good mic preamp and good quality XLR make all the difference. I use a UA 6176 and Canare cable. It's overkill for podcasting, but for all the VO talent I record, it brings out the best of every mic. But if you can't afford a good mic pre, please use the quality cable. It's about $1 per foot, and absolutely worth very penny.
and today I learnt a lot from you. Didn't really know how placing of a microphone can change the audio by THAT MUCH.
Yup. I wasn't even getting fancy in this video 😁
THANK YOU. I was so disappointed in that video, because it trashes one of my favorite mics. I dig the fact that you actually mic your show the right way!!! Not sure why people like the "style" of having a big honking studio mic in frame. No one in the film/broadcast world would do that unless it were a particular retro vibe (think Carson's early ribbon, and most talk show hosts thereafter copping that look). Jay is actually on target about getting the mic "out of frame," but the Yeti is the wrong mic for that. There's a reason that pro on-set sound happens right above the frame with boom mics. Our entire industry is based on keeping the dang mics OUT OF THE FRAME, haha. Get a short shotgun or super/hypercardioid, and live happily ever after. But I digress.
One thing that kind of blows my mind about that SM-7b review is that he missed another dead-obvious thing: The mic element is **already** spaced away from your mouth by the metal surrounding cage (which also serves as a Faraday cage)!! You've placed your SM-57 element about the same distance away from your mouth (in the back half of your video) as the SM-7b would be spaced if you were right on the foam. And you'd think a guy pitching himself as some kind of tech expert would know all of that. It's basic, basic stuff.
I really struggle with a "tech expert," like Jay, I have to be honest. He's putting himself out there as someone qualified to advise people, and putting up a cheap Focusrite converter as a "high quality" front end for a broadcast mic? It's just nope and nope. No way, man. A DBX 286 is really cheap in the mic preamp world on an SM-7 for $219, or if you want to go to SM-7 heaven and have a digital output, choose the 376. You can have a processing chain that rivals any broadcaster, and still has all the rejection and **INsensitivity** that the SM-7b brings to the table.
In some ways, the industry was really cursed by the discovery that a manufacturer could produce Large Diaphragm Condensers in China for peanuts. Suddenly everyone thought that a "studio mic" was what they needed. You are TOTALLY on target that the SM-57 is the single best workhorse microphone ever produced, and for 99% of people getting into recording/broadcasting, etc, they could buy one and never need another mic. Every recording studio in the world has a box of 57s, and every event sound company probably has a hundred.
Sm7B without the filter is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Honestly the SM7b is a great piece of gear from everything I've seen, heard, and the few times I got to try one. If we're talking purely price/performance, imho you can get a better deal unless the SM7b is *exactly* what you're looking for.
And never should someone underestimate the proximity effect with directional mics. Hell, I can let an AT2020 make my voice sound deep and warm simply by getting close to it. That may bring some other issues with it with the at2020, but that's another story ;p
SM7B is straight up overrated as hell. There are much better sounding mics in it's price range. (LCT 440 comes to mind.)
Legend has it SM57 used the mic of choice for Steven Tyler IN THE STUDIO and the SM7b for Michael Jackson... Thank you for this video, I actually contact some youtubers from time to time to turn their attention to audio and offer some advice. This video should be SUPER HELPFUL to content creators worldwide! Cheers!
Always held that if an engineer couldn't make some one sounds good on an sm57, then they didn't know what they were doing 🙂
@@SomeGadgetGuy all they both need is a DECENT preamp with high gain and low noise... A little knowledge can get you far!
The best advice I ever got from Jason (Painfully Honest Tech) and Bandrew (Podcastage) was "get the mic closer to your mouth."
This his how I was able to make my Blue Yeti (USB) mic sound so "radio-like" for the streams we do.
When Rode hooked us up with the Procaster (which I LOVE!), all I added on was a Scarlett 2i2 and a Cloudlifter. And I continued to keep the mic close to my mouth.
Good breakdown, Juan!
A little technique goes a LONG way, and few folks can keep up with Jason. Dude knows his audio.
You're using an sm57 at about 2 feet away? Without room noise? You've got some skill. I'm surprised you're able to get that clean of a sound from a cheap dynamic mic with (apparently) little acoustic processing in the room.
Hmmm... interesting. What kind of post processing are you doing to the signal?
How good would this setup be if you had 2 or three other mics in the room?
@JuanBagnell, Guys. [UPDATE] Jay did a Twitch stream two days ago in which he was still setting up his audio. Couple of changes:
1. He has taken the advice and is now chewing the mic, getting the proximity effect and thus the sound he was looking for.
2. He has swapped out his previous signal chain for a GoXLR which is more optimised for his use case and (as we all know) comes with one of those fantastic Midas preamps.
His Twitch stream is there to be viewed if you want.
Jay changed the title of his video lmao!
This was amazing. Right on with the conversation!
Felt it was a teachable moment. 😁
It's nice to learn something new. Thanks, Juan Audio Tips!
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I have no need for this particular information but I always click and hit that thumbs up. Just here to support a fellow tech brother. Keep on keepin on!
You rock!
@@SomeGadgetGuy why thank you kind sir but I'm almost certain it is you that rocks. Also I hope you caught the jazz film reference with the "keep on keepin' on" tag I left there at the end lol. I'm not the biggest jazz fan in the world by any means but I definitely appreciate what the genre has branched into. I was also a drummer in jazz band during high school haha.
i don't even know what your channel is. not even the slightest concept of what you usually cover... but ill tell you, i love this. great work.
It gets weird. It's good times.
Thank You So Much Making This, You Just Sealed The Deal For Me I Have Been Wanting To Get An SM7B And All My Friends Laugh At Me And Say Why Dont You Just Get The Yetti ..............
I thought I YT was messed up recommending a video I had just watched. Nope! Just Juan being Juan. Good info and glad to see you providing advice without it having to turn into a bash on Jay.
I've handling this SM7 "problem" for YEARS LOL. People don't learn about audio like they do camera tech.
@@SomeGadgetGuy Yeah I've been dealing with this with the SM58 and singers all the time. You can't hold it down on your chest, you've got to eat it. Of course I'm also dealing with feedback as well, but yeah, same principle.
sounds sooo much better up close
Your audio content is always top notch. Nice job.
So I have a SM7B...well aware of the proximity concept but I feel like the swallows, and all of the mouth sounds are insanely profound and hard to minimize in post. Mic is off to the side so I’m not sure where to go from here!
I love my SM-58.
There's a reason why they're used the word over, for decades now.
I have absolutely no incentive to upgrade at this point.
Something I would recommend though, is a decent quality shock mount.
Especially when the mic is mounted on an arm attached to a computer desk (keyboard clicks, anyone?), a good shock mount can really help to remove unwanted mechanically transmitted noise.
Presidential Pair is a couple SM57s. If it works for the president...
You could use the Shure A55M or as a cheaper alternative the t.bone SSM6...my hints for you ✌️
After switching from a starter kit BM-800 Condenser that captured everything to a MXL BCD-1... I literally have to eat the mic and it sounds fantastic! Thanks Juan!
Right tool for the job! It's magic when you find it 🙂
OMFG THANK YOU.
I was so bummed watching his video today. Literally left a comment on his thread that when you plug a $400 mic into an $80 interface, you can't complain when it doesn't work the way you expected it to.
And the interface isn't as much of a bottleneck as the distance from the mic is working against him. I think for a basic radio style sound, that interface plus a cloudlifter could get the job done.
I agree with you and everyone about the proximity, but he still had to run that thing through a cloud lifter AND a mixer to get his output where it needed to be for the Solo. That Solo alone couldn't handle that Shure, and it was never really meant to. It just doesn't have the headroom.
I love his channel and I watch you both pretty religiously (love your MEE Audio coverage especially, btw), but I guess even the pros can fall victim to the classic "throw money at it" trap. "Happens to the best of us," as they say.
Maybe? The main reason to add the mixer was EQ tho. The CL delivers another 20dB and the proximity would fill in the lost low end.
@@SomeGadgetGuy tá
Love the 57 exactly because of the noise rejection.
wow that was an amazing pro tip .. i just wish more people knew how to use their equipment more often .. i see this type of thing all the time at my job
It kinda hurts when you see the same mistakes over and over...
Got it say love how much I learn from you all the time really all the time
Great video! People buy the Shure SM7 because they see others "using" it.. Radio stations and broadcasters use the SM7 combined with expensive pre-amp's with enough gain to run them without a Cloudlifter/Fethead. Often followed by a channel strip with hi-pass, Eq, exited, compression, limiter. Not to mention, the station processing (like Optimod), that will make the presenters voice sound even more processed. And like you demonstrate; the good old SM57, (used for all the american presidents started in the sixties) is still a fine microphone for vocal reproduction, that won't break the bank ;-) But if it doesn't look good, it can't be good.... I get that ;-)
Thank you for this video. I was on the verge of purchasing SM7B which i think is very expensive compare to what SM57 can deliver.
I literally dodged this video because I like your phone reviews the most. This video educated me on something I thought I would never care about. You are by far my favorite tech guy.
Right on. Glad you enjoyed it 😁
@@SomeGadgetGuy thanks man, got into your videos because of the Sony Xperia 5 review. I got the phone after that review an have been enjoying it since. Keep up the great work
Good man! That Xperia was such a refreshing change of pace. I really hope I can get my hands on the X1ii.
@@SomeGadgetGuy please do a review if you can! I'm very excited for it, and the smaller Xperia 5 ii.
Thanx for the microphone skoolin'. It's helpful and much appreciated.
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Some Audio Guy comes to save the day.
LOL!
I use a microphone by Razer for a lot of my videos. Mainly because it was pink.
NOTHING wrong with that! 😄
Love ♥️ it (SMB7) and this video and your vibe! Subscribed 🎬
Ok, I just watched Jay's video. Ouch. Painful. Dude... just get closer. The Shure SM7B NEEDS you to be close!
To put that much work into plugins and EQ... Feels bad man...
@@SomeGadgetGuy He literally has everything he needs. Nothing needs to be adjusted. SM7B to Cloudlifter to Scarlett. That's it. Go. Turn that gain down and get close. Omg... 🤦♂️
Jay just tries different things. Not really that knowledgeable about certain stuff
I would also consider the noisefloor of the complete soundchain and speaking of proximity..depending if you are a amateur or maby have a guest...it might be worth using a "easy" mic like the SM7B or Rode Procaster
I love dynamic mic’s. Shotgun mic’s people seem to use to great effect but I hate the open ambience of them.
People always forget that lo-bar is still designed to pick up some room or outdoor ambiance.
Hey sir, love the quality you're getting outta the sm57. Mind letting us Know what are you running it through?
On his table you can see a Focusrite Audio Interface;)
@@gustavschneider8983 yeah i saw that, but i meant to ask about his vocal chain, preamps, analog or digital etc.
@@gamalehab7848 Ahh I see;)
Juan...we could use some tips on using cheap mics, mobile phones (specially LG V60) and other portable and practical equipment OUTSIDE. You know... concerts, environment, ambient in street/church/nature... capturing wide range as well.
Awesome. I hope Jay sees this man.
We've shared a few tweets. I think he gets me.
SM7b needs something like the Cloudlifter... it’s an absolute necessity if you want to keep the noise floor to acceptable levels.
I didn’t mind him getting to that conclusion by mistake. What I did mind tho was the video he made in response to the help and corrections given to him. He spent even more money, this time on a GoXLR, even tho his Focusrite Scarlett Interface and Cloud Microphones CL-1 would have been just fine, admittedly with post processing needed to get rid of ambiance noise and whatnot, that - with the GoXLR - is comfortably done in a software directly in front of the Interface. And what’s worse: Because this time the purchase helped him to get to the sound he wants, Jay never learned the difference between ambiance noise and system- or self-noise. I mean, the Focusrite, even without the CL-1 is a great audio interface, if you get around to learn that noise isn’t always caused by the equipment and if it does, how system noise works.
It's a shame how this could have been a great educational moment for other prospective podcasters to learn from.
i can 100% agree with this.. spending a lot of money on a mic doesn't get you the best quality.
i spent $40 aussie dollars on a mic kit that included a microphone (bm-800), shockmount (plastic), boomarm, pop filter, windshield, xlr to 3.5mm, soundcard and a desk mount.
one of my friends actually mistook it for a blue yeti so I'm pretty happy with it
Knowing how to use a tool is more important than buying the most responsive tool.
THANK YOU! i was literally screaming this at my monitor watching jays vid haha
Felt it was a teachable moment 😁
Man!!! You are fun to listen to. Bravo!!
That was actually quite useful - thanks. Does anybody else use an SM7B in the shotgun position you have your sm57 I wonder?
Big question I hope you see and can answer! What is attached to the front of your sm57! Looks like a great improvement for vocals!!!
Yah. Sometimes folks don't think of the 'end application' that suits for the tool/mic. IF one talks one foot or more from the sm7b it is junkie!!! Not designed for that kind of application. BUT.....its interesting how a cheap mic can be EQ'ed to sound good. Ah....well...ah...EQ is part of the story. See what I mean? Or...maybe I am being vague and off the wall...again!!! Thank you sir. Very informative and your enthusiasm is contagious!!! Ah... I don't mean as in COVID!!! Yikes!!
This comment was a roller coaster ride of emotion. 10/10. Would read again.
FUN and informative vid! #thanks I use an SM58 for all my vid recordings and LOVE IT!! :)
Luv this vid, so much valuable Info,
Thanks breh
Great video, very well explained and you didn't sound arrogant at all! Love the video response, reminds me of all TH-cam.
Thanks man i really appreciate this video. You woke the shit out of me from SM7B
It's a classic mic for a reason 😁
I saw the video... He was using the mic the way he was going to be using it for his setup. He stated in his situation it wasn't for him, not for the money because he could get the same results that he was looking for with a cheaper mic/pre combo.
And I explained WHY he got it wrong. Especially if his advice was "don't just buy a popular piece of kit because it's popular". He laid the blame on the mic. I'm arguing he didn't do his research.
@@SomeGadgetGuy I'm pretty sure he took blame for buying the mic because it was popular as well.
Great advice! Thanks!
Wow, there is a big difference in noise when you compare your Shure cardioid mic with the Yeti. There is more noice in the Yeti. And I can't hear any noise in the Shure.
Would be great to have some videos on how to improve our audio! I've got myself a Rode NT1-A and find it a bit sensitive... but I also use it for music, any tips?
Isolate yourself and the microphone. Record in a dead quiet room, use Accoustic treatment. Keep things that make the noise, generally recording equipment, computers, refrigerator etc in another room.
That was very helpful, thanks! :)
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I see ya xim
thanks dude
Still not a fan of the Shure SM7B...I bought one, tried it in every variation possible in my Sound Proof Vocal Booth and then returned it and got my money back. However I agree with power of proximity effect in professional recording Juan. There's a microphone out there for every voice...it's just matter of finding what you like and works best for you. By the way it might be time to upgrade your Focusrite interface. They are good, but there are better USB powered ones in the prosumer market with better preamps. Listening back to work I did on mine compared to today and its chalk and cheese.
Excellent video on how to use microphones.
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And you are not a technician like I am. And, you did not mention that the SM-7 has the identical capsule within its long black foam covered phallus. That the microphone element is 2 inches down within that black phallus element.
So while your observation was clear and valid. And you understand some of the differences of the different types and sound of microphones. And you are using the right one the SM/Beta 57's. Bravo! You now things are supposed to sound. You just don't have a full understanding what makes them sound the way they do.
So regarding that Proximity Effect. You get less with the SM-7. By virtue of your lips are not nearly touching the diaphragm. They are 2 inches or so away.
So knowing that concept. Makes it so much easier to use the SM-57 or 58's. When you know the, Proximity Effect they generate that's pronounced. And the key is finding the right balance. In a Rudy Van Gelder like way.. You move the microphone further away from the spoken word talent. And then you get a less amateur sound of the vocal of your recording.
So now you're on the right track. We are just trying to figure out what track you have placed yourself on?
RemyRAD
By the way... if you want the "warmest... richest sound money can buy"... you want to move into Neumann (tlm103 or u67/u87). But of course, now you're dropping 1200 to 5000+ bucks into a microphone. Not quite sure who justifies that anymore. I've had the great pleasure of working with neumann mics. Its like cooking with real butter. :)
Great points. Thank you.
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I have a complete different philosofy about audio, I think that you really should play with compression and EQ to get the best of what you have, but I completely agree with the point of the video, just buying something because you see other people using isn't the best thing, and on these days is easy to see people on Twitch with SM7b, RE20, or another top of the line broadcast microphones that doesn't sound any better than a cheap USB condenser mic...
Hi juan, im using an SM58 with windscreen right now for discord. lmao. but i kinda like the sound you're getting with an SM57. i just took this mic from our practice space since we don't have any gigs so i guess i'll just get myself an SM57 for recording voice and guitar since i think it's a better all around mic.
It shouldn't be that much different. The capsules should be nearly identical.
Epic, thanks man!!
Felt it was a teachable moment...
Learned all this the hard way.. started with the blue yeti and tried software after software to cancel out background noise to then find the shure beta58A and realized I no longer needed all that fancy noise gates and eq to sound just fine. I do slap on the rtx voice on occasion when playing a video game that causes my pc to go full blast. But when I had rtx on the yeti, I simple yell would turn into a faint mouse squeak. Now I just keep the dynamic mic close to my face and all is well
How RAD is RTX voice tho? It's one of the most futuristic audio processing tools I've ever used. It almost feels like movie magic "zoom in and enhance".
@@SomeGadgetGuy ITS AMAZING! Idk if you've experimented with how well it does with condenser mics vs dynamics, but from what I've found over the past few months, it doesn't work as well with condensers as one might expect. Possible video idea?
What’s the brand of your desktop mounted mic stand?
Just using an inexpensive Samson stand.
thanks for your content
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Mic technique 👏
My question is a bit unrelated, but can I use a Roge video micro for podcast style recording, and if so do I need some kind of preamp for it (it obviously doesn't need much power but who'd it improve it? )
This was quick
I've had to deal with this SM7 "problem" a LOT over the years...
@@SomeGadgetGuy I don't really blame him. I made the same mistakes as him starting out, but I had to learn everything overnight with whatever equipment we had in the studio, whereas he did have the time to learn and also money to spend. I had to use the NTG 4 instead of the SM58 we had because the "Professional Voice Over actor" was afraid of the mic and was leaning further and further.
Oh man. I hated those guys that would swallow my mic. I used to use a long foam sock on my 416, and I would scootch it far from the end of the mic so those guys would still have some distance.
@@SomeGadgetGuy I had a pop filter in front so they couldn't get too close to the mic, but he was getting pretty far from the mic (I think like 3 feet?) to the point where he started sounding muffled. So yeah that's when I switched to a boom mic instead. Sure, I could hear the ruffling of his shirt, but at least I can get some of that, as the TH-cams people say it, "juicy audio" while the VO guy goes further and further from the mic.
I remember trying to use a Shure Beta 58A as my pc mic at a lan with only an XLR to 1/4" adapter cable along with a requisite 1/4" to 3.5mm adapter to the pink plug on the back of my motherboard. After spending an hour+ also trying to ghetto rig a standard mic stand to be used on a desk and upping the mic audio in windows and ventrilo settings I gave up. Drove to Fry's and just got a Zalman mic clip.
LOL we've all had THAT experience getting into computer audio.
Thank you great reviewer. Always right. That is why you are EL HOMBRE.
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Man, I like that streamers are moving to dynamics more often, less keyboard noise and reflections. But good god I wish more would just get SM48/57/58s, and just learn how to use them. My friend started off with a AT2020, despite my objections, and wondered by this "incredible microphone" sounded worse in his setup, than even my Behringer XM8500. Amazing what a little bit of foam, and hanging blankets can do.
My fiancee is getting into streaming and we got her the SM58. Like you said, condensers sound cleaner when reflections are a non-issue. However, most people getting into streaming don't have treated walls or even know mic technique. Also, you're right on the background noise. When you have a handheld mic, it rejects so much around you because that's what it's meant to do.
@@nerdyneedsalife8315 Almost like mics meant for live environments perform well in live environments right?
@@GallopingWalrus Maybe it didn't come off that well but my ending statement was meant to have the same tone as your comment here. In a way, I think stage mics are a bit underrated. Sure the audio guys recommend it as there jack of all trades mic but most people then don't use it because they don't want a jack of all trades, they want a master of one.
@@nerdyneedsalife8315 Oh, no I absolutely understood. I just sometimes get a little cynical, and sarcastic. Even if it's something I agree with. Sounding sincere is a real problem I can have.
@@GallopingWalrus Don't worry my dude, I justified because I do the same thing.
My lg g8 is a monster enjoying it thank you for your video
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can you make a video about your microphone settings on your focusrite and your input settings on your pc
To be fair, the radio voice he is after are all using a voice processor on top of an FM processor which is a 150 (DBX286s)-500(Symetrix 528e) USD for the voice and 200(seperate computer with BreakAway or Stereotool)-10.000(Orban optimod/Omnia) for FM processor to do.
So, even having my SM7B super close to my mouth the gain is still too low. My interface is the UMC202Dh by Behringer. What should I use to improve my sound ?
The sm7b has a very low output level, you need a preamp before the interface, this guy’s using the Cloudlifter, a crowd favourite for getting the most out of dynamic mics. I think it gives a 50dB clean boost, retaining your signal:noise ratio, while also providing your interface with much more to play with.
Felipe Eugênio Vinhal Cloudlifter...or buy an Apogee Duet 2
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How the hell did you not get that SM57 popping when you moved it closer to your mouth. You my friend are a god of the SM57.
I've been using this mic for almost 20 years.
@@SomeGadgetGuy That explains it I’ve been using mine for about a month. Still a newbie when it comes to audio gear. I love it. Your sound made me realize I’m using it all wrong for the sound that I wanted. Thanks very much.
It was hilarious seeing him use a mic that is known as a singing mic not close to his mouth