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- Talking about the F-2 and if it should be something we are to expect to come!
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as a japan main i need the F-2
Facts also from a japan main
@@cagiestnickle72 what's your favourite plane in the japan tree? mines the A6M5 or the F-15J
I think it’s still a bit too early for the F-2. They haven’t even fixed the 16v16 issue yet.
same from a japan main I also need F-2 for future grind as I am busy climbing upto the top tier
My dream is the AAM-3 for the F4 EJ Kai.
I don't really see why people keep on making a fuss about the AESA radar, because really without the AAM-4 the F-2 won't be all that much better than any top tier jets we have right now. Current top tier NATO radars can already lock all the way to 20 km, which is like the maximum effective range for the Sparrow, so really it won't make much of a difference when we already have Su-27 and Mig-29s spamming R27ER 20+ km away. Also do note that F-14s can detect planes that just take off.
I think it’s better against ground clutter. Unfortunately because of Russian bias the American sar missiles are trash. Like I don’t think the war thunder strat of fly low to dodge all missiles works in real life.
This is what I've been saying. It could have appeared instead of the f16aj because Gaijin could have limited it by weapon choice. The Ej kai has constantly received updated weapons to the point of being ridiculously high a br for a phantom. All I've heard is oh noooo AESA radar is impossible to defeat. Seriously put just cause the radar is insanely good like how the Ej kai had when it was the only f16 radar at the time makes having an AESA radar early with crap weapons is straight comedic. Hell even the R27ER is on a crap radar system is better than a fancy radar that can't even perform as a fancy radar to guide useable missiles.
@@guitarlover42 no it’s realistic but the height at which it happens is much higher then it is in real life and no plane would realistically fly that low because they’d ingest dirt and shit into their engines and crash
It's the missile itself who has a AESA radar, the AAM 4B. I don't know if it's the case for the plane.
@@smash79 both aam4 and the f2 have aesa radars
My dream is the AAM-3 for the F4 EJ Kai 11.7 with this missels are be a dream.
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY F/A-18?
Sadly denied, hopefully this patch will be small and F-18 will come after this one
It’s coming chill llol
ofc Japan needs F-2...and to lower br for F-4EJ
As a Japan main, it’s still a bit too early for the F-2 to arrive. Ik it wouldn’t get its best missiles on arrival, but the AESA radar it a lot more powerful than anything in game currently. We don’t even have PESA radars yet. I still do think the F-2 should be the first AESA radar in game (like in real life), but it’s too early rn. Maybe we get an early F-2 or something so we could get something more realistic than the F-16AJ though.
F-2A early variants only had AIM-7M's and AAM-3's, the same loadout as the current F-15J in game right now. It would be so easy to just nerf the AESA radar right now, and then when everyone else gets the AESA radars, they can remodel them to work the way they should. Hell, the F-16C Block 50 is supposed to have an AESA radar. They could just give the F-2A it's radar but nerfed to act like a PD radar, or they could just straight up give it a PD radar until all the other nations have it. IMO Japan needs it right now. Their only top tier jet at the moment is the F-15J and as of now, isn't even 12.7. And the F-16AJ isn't even as competitive with it's poorer missile kit with the 9L and the 7F's. Japan's hurting and they need to give them a buff. If not, then they should remodel the F-15J to actually be an F-15C like it's supposed to and give it the AAM-4's when fox-3's come out.
@@lilkev9425. Wait, isn't F-16E Block 60 is the first F-16 to have AESA radar ?
@@MoskusMoskiferus1611 Nah, Japan was the first to ever implement Active Electronically Scanned Array radars into their military equipment. The F-2 being the first production fighter to ever have AESA, even before the F-22 and Japan also made the first Active Radar Homing missile to use an AESA seeker as well, the AAM-4B
I mean… we already have the F-16C block 50, and that plane should have an AESA radar… so i can actually see the implementation of the F-2 without any issue
Exactly. Even with an AESA radar, they can just nerf the radar for now until other nations get the radar and then they can remodel the radar and implement it with the correct model. Just make the radar a faster refresh rate PD radar and honestly I see no issue especially when the early F-2 never got the AAM-4 (Japanese fox-3), it had access to the same exact kit as the F-15J that's currently in game so it would literally just be an F-16AJ with the F-15J armament and better radar. It doesn't hurt especially if fox-3's are coming to the game next patch, the F-2 early wouldn't even have the fox-3's.
Fantastic fighter
It's more maneuverable then block 10s, atleast in rating for it's G-limit, with it going up to 10 instead of 9, also the engine produced 134 not 131kn, the dry load is 910kg heavier
Do you think the xf-84h will make it to the game
Id love the F-2. Also i wish ships were back in battles. Good time to add Anti ship missiles.
Yes, whenever 13.0 or 13.3 drops it we should expect it. The Radar and its Turning are the main upgrades, this would not only expand the Japanese tree which is what all Japanese players want, it would perform similarly to f16c's that are already in the game. It should be slightly lighter than an F16c, with an early variant carrying AAM3 and AIM7Ms , thats pretty standard nowadays, you might be living in the past a bit. AESA is definitely a new tier of radars, but it can easily be limited with having only 2-4 AIM7's and by not introducing the extremely dominant AAM4's until, like you said, similar options are introduced to other crafts. This also gives Gaijin room to be lazy and give us a F-2 late variant down the road.
AAM-4 A is an under licence Amraaam C variant If I'm not mistaking. IT's the AAM 4B that has the AESA radar. An A variant shoudn't be too strong when equivalent comes in the game. Until then, Japan could have temporarily the B variant of the amraam since they actually tested and qualified it on their aircraft. (without buying it tho)
AAM-4 is domestic for either version. B is the same missile, but with an AESA seeker and both are much larger than AIM-120
I have a hard time believing the F-2 is more maneuverable. Like sure it has a higher wing loading, but its powered by the same F110 engine and weights quite a bit more than the F-16C Block 50. The higher wing area was ultimately chosen mainly for the purposes of carrying anti-ship missiles and more internal fuel for maritime patrols.
It'd have the lower turn radius and an advantage in the first turn which could be pretty big if we had the AAM-5 or more realistic AAM-3 performance, but we don't and the F-16C we have in the game would win in a sustained fight.
people acting like there wasnt a prototype and if it was added gaijin would add the best varient known to man and that it would be added with all the modern shit but forget that there is a version that carried AIM7 and AAM-3 just like the F15J
I just want some guided munitions for top tier japan CAS... TV guided mavs aren't horrid but against top tier spaa it can be rough if there is more than one up. Also ~ if you do get the mav off there isnt a guarantee that the mav will even kill the target. (%chance to kill goes down from SPAA --> light tank ---> MBT)
The F-2 was designed with ordinance in mind actually!
Exactly, and given all the other nations have superior guided munitions available, I think we should expect Japan to get them too
I pray that the F-2 comes I would love Japan to get an f16 that holds aam3s or something similar
Just also add the f16c block 70
no because we have block50 in game just we need fox3 for all country and the block 70 are v varient not c
The f16 block 70 is a 2022 aircraft so no
I just thought because it also has an aesa radar
Why isn’t it realistic to expect??
Aesa radar
Because it’s too advanced, we’re not even at 90s fox 3 missiles yet and people are expecting a eurofighter, f2, su35, etc, not for a while
@@brodykloster2102I’m not saying next patch but to say not to expect it at all for the Japanese tree is alil silly to say.
@@Blueesteel_ no mat was saying to not expect in the upcoming patches, ofc all these jets are going to be added eventually but people are expecting them this patch and the next one, he’s saying they won’t be added for a while
@@brodykloster2102 ahhh ok 👍
F-2 wouldn't be needed if the OP UFO SU-27 wouldn't have gotten better missles from the get-go. Russia still mad about the Russo-Japanese war.
its not lmao