Fixing a Viewer's BROKEN Gaming PC? - Fix or Flop S5:E3
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Welcome to Fix or Flop! We're up to Season 5, Episode 3. This viewer's gaming PC overheats! Can it be fixed? By the way, if you live in the Orlando, FL area and have an issue with your PC, apply to have it (possibly) fixed for free today! gregsalazar.co...
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Thanks again Greg for fixing the system for me. It’s been running amazing and I’ve been playing for hours and no crashing.
U are the owner of this system
@@TruthHurts1519 yeah unfortunately lmao
@@WowAdonyz Put a second stick of ram in it. Believe me: Dual Channel will make a big difference. ; )
@@nordlicht1881 already did lol running 2 sticks of 16gb now for a total of 32gb it’s been way better
YES, please upgrade to 16gb of decent DDR4. Just don't waste money on anything faster than 2666, as that mobo won't do any clocking past that and won't do any XMP profiling. You'll notice a big difference just upgrading RAM@@nordlicht1881
That rear I/O was just depressing to look at.
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Easily the worst rear I/O I've ever seen. I'd suggest a powered USB hub. I would say that Intel boards a few years ago were very lacking in USB compared to AMD, they seem to have fixed that recently.
I've seen laptops with way more ports than this motherboard.
Love your videos. My only advice as a viewer of your content for some time, try not to keep Apologizing all the time for not upgrading or changing something for someone. You already do ALOT for viewers if we are being honest compared to so many other tech youtubers I follow. The fact that you even do small upgrades for someone like a PC case, PSU, Fans, or w/e else is already going a LONG way. Appreciate your videos! keep up the good work
Calm down, bro. This is a man running a business and these videos are made to turn a profit through the comp'd products he's using, advertising and monetization of the video itself. Even though the submitters aren't paying him directly, he's not running a charity. The motivation to give things away isn't even altruistic, most youtube channels are merch shops and sweepstakes nowadays for a reason.
@@nickb.249 I think you completely missed the point of what I said. I was just telling him not to apologize so much because of it. Im 100% aware of how he functions through the monetization of the video.
@@Fvviff I got that point, I was addressing the second half of your post.
@@nickb.249 You're completely off base. Nothing @Fvviff said was negative. He just said that Greg doesn't need to apologize so much for not upgrading more, since he already does so much for free.
@@ryanmcgraw1743 I'm completely off base huh? I was directly commenting on the OP acting like this youtuber was doing this out of the kindness of his heart like he was some kind of saint. I honestly don't care about the apology thing, that was only half of what the person I replied to said. I assure you Greg does absolutely none of this for free, which was my entire point and why you shouldn't be handing him rotary club awards like he's been volunteering in the food bank and cleaning up parks. Giving away sponsor-comp'd computer parts is his twist on the sweepstakes angle everyone on youtube with a pulse is doing. It's not some series of kind gestures he's doing for the community; people who get parts are just lottery winners where the prize is coming from whoever sponsored the video and/or provided the parts. It's all calculated and he wouldn't be doing it if it wasn't paying the mortgage on the fancy new custom house he's building. If you feel like he is being genuinely kind and putting himself out there, then he accomplished his mission and you're also clueless and desperate for parasocial relationships.
I think the biggest peformance hit comes from the single stick of RAM. The owner should definitely upgrade that ASAP.
I actually think Greg did him a huge service by not touching the platform and GPU. He set him up (almost) perfectly for a newer CPU, MoBo, RAM (7800X3D+AM5 MoBo +32gb@6000 all for 500 ar microcenter) and GPU upgrade later this year when the new gen arrives. He can even wait for Zen5 for a CPU.
If it were me, I'd be happier with this than if he touched the platform, instead. That MoBo is one of the saddest I've seen in a long time...
Don't think the issue comes from the ram running on a single stick, but rather the speed of it. It looks incredibly cheap, wouldn't even add another stick, just replace the whole damn thing 😂
@@PexceIit's probably just some value RAM of some sort, it doesn't look fancy but works just as well as other RAM sticks
@@BarAlexC yeah I agree... or even an extra stick from ebay for a very cheap upgrade to hold him over
Luckily Intel is much less picky about RAM than AMD. If the dude wants to upgrade it in the future he can.
I feel bad for anyone that buys a pre-built like this one. Y'all deserve more than this!
the stripped v ram sinks on the MB was very painful to look at.
May not have been the craziest repair troubleshoot, but I feel like helping address a pre-Built PC's issues is great. It shows people who might be afraid to take on their own build that it isn't that hard to do and that you don't always get what you pay for in the pre-Built segment. Great job and PC for the video
Thanks for the support!
This PC almost completes OEM bingo: bad CPU cooler, barebones motherboard, sealed off case, single channel memory. At least it doesn’t have too much proprietary headers and PSUs so some of the parts were able to be reused which is always good
Great Wall is an OEM brand. They make power supplies for several reputable brands. That should be a decent power supply.
Yeah, i saw them in 486 pcs and they were still working
Yup. They made one of Corsair’s best SFF PSUs. The Corsair SF750.
If you ask me no oem brand is reputable
They just have more marketing then smaller brands
@@holyhelga In this case it's not OEM for cheap machines it's an OEM for actual manufactures, some models of branded PSUs are actually great wall.
I’m not gonna give you crap for when you do or don’t give free upgrades. It’s your channel and, honestly, even a free diagnostic puts you ahead of most repair shops. I’ve seen some places charge upwards of $100 just to crack open the case and poke around. Folks need to stop whining and pay attention to all the free stuff you’re already giving away before an upgrade even happens. Keep up the good work. You’re truly doing your part and I’m happy you still get to earn a living through monetization of these videos.
I took a handful of DDR5 Laptop RAM, CR2032 batteries, & small NVMe drives, buried them in my backyard, and hopefully after placing them in the right soil and watering them everyday, will grow to be a tall and beautiful Hardware Tree
No need to apologize, He has a much better rig than before.
Coming from someone who recently went from a pre-built to taking the plunge and building my own pc, it was great. I always had weird unexplainable things happen on my prebuilt until it eventually just quit working one day. Things have been rock solid on my new and first build. Super happy with it
Great wall is one of the big OEMs for PSU alot of the basic PSUs tend to be a rebrand of theirs
Personally, my favorite part of the video is when you upgrade someone. I live 1000 miles away from you and my stuff isn't broken. But I can only imagine how great it would feel to get a broken rig back with upgrades. Do what you do, Sir. Love it!
I watched a video on this channel many years ago and ever since I watched it, I couldn't stop watching.
You're my hero, Marco daddy :-)
@@GregSalazar My walter-white inspired Inwin 303C build only has you to thank! I will be rebuilding it with a 5800X3D and undoing my haswell setup soon when i get some time.
honestly, i love the generosity of you upgrading machines, dont listen to people complaining about it, it generous and super nice of you.
You're awesome Greg! I think it's great that you do this for free. You're doing a lot of ppl a lot of good. I always love to learn what you have to teach. Knowing you do this for free is apart of the reason I'll always watch these!
I assembled a "barebones" build with this case!!! Got the case, psu, b550 mobo & 5600x cpu and 1tb HDD for $139!! Got a used RX 6750XT for $232!! Added $45 of 2 new ram sticks and just $417.33 later. I had a fully assembled pc....I sold it November for $700. Which is still an amazing deal for the buyer. Gave him a 1 year warranty on labor/parts too.
Great Wall is an OEM PSU manufacturer and one of the biggest there is, of who other name brands use to make their PSU's, such as Corsair's "CX" and "TX-M" for an example.
corsair CX series is total garbage though ive had some of those die on me
@@dawn1berlitz i have a cx 500 thats been running sold for over 8 years now
It still needed replacing due to the GPU requirements
@@Jalex0021 for me it would be CPU related
ODM
That CPU cooler is so horrible. Wow that is a totally stripped-down motherboard. I've never seen one that stripped down.
I did a double take at that IO. Like wow what a joke for connectivity.
I was wondering, how much money did they really save by stripping down that motherboard so harshly?
@@arthurstarling9743 There's 2 factors. First, they save a bit on stripping it. Second, they make money again when it has to be replaced...
@@arthurstarling9743 Likely quite a bit. In the CPU area alone, if you were to buy all of the missing mosfets and passives, that could be $20-30 depending on what they're using. OEMs of course get huge discounts for buying reels of parts vs piecemeal, but it's still a significant reduction.
Connectors are the next most expensive part, they saved a fair bit deleting all of those as well. Not only in connector cost, but copper cost and board complexity, not having to run as many traces. I'm actually surprised they removed the connectors from the board design, that's some real cheap skating. Usually they just use a retail board and not populate the connectors or passives.
It's a shame that they removed those connectors from the actual board design. I've been able to add missing connectors and components on OEM boards to get back missing functionality. My most recent "upgrade" of an OEM board was an older HP AM3 board (Apricot-RS780L-UATX.) It had the pads for two additional DDR3 slots and a full size PCIe x16 slot that weren't installed.
Adding in missing RAM slots is usually straight forward, just install the slots and they generally work. The BIOS may not detect the memory correctly, so you can end up with hilarious things like a BIOS screen that says 0 MB installed, but the OS will see it fine.
Adding missing PCIe slots is another story. They usually remove the passives with the slot, so you have to install those too. In this boards case, it was something like 52 0102 SMD ceramic caps the size of a grain of dust. But the slot worked fine after all of the passive capacitors were installed. There's actually another PCIe x1 slot that can be installed, but the x16 slot was enough for me, because it allowed you to use a non-crippled video card.
I also cross flashed the BIOS on the board with a BIOS from a similar 760G AM3 board. I lost the fan speed detection, but gained more features in the BIOS that were absent before.
That CPU cooler is odd imo, it looks like an intel stock cooler and yet is pretty incapable at cooling down the CPU. I've an old intel stock cooler in my old computer and even it can keep the CPU at reasonable temperatures and reach 4000 RPM if need be. And it looks very similar. I'm not sure that's actually an intel stock cooler we've seen in this vid, more like a bad copy of it.
Hey Greg, I just want to say that your videos are really helpful in terms of fixing PCs. But it's really heartbreaking for me that after learning so much from your videos I failed to fix my own rig. But even technically don't have a PC anymore I love to watch your videos and learn from it. Thank you for making these great videos for us❤️
Great Wall are actually very legit. Corsair has (dunno if they still do) bought and relabelled Great wall units in the past, and other companies have done the same including dell. They are perfectly acceptable units
Oh wow, that motherboard IO shield is something I haven't seen before. I'm actually surprised that Asus labeled this under its own brand and not as an OEM.
Haven't watched the video entirely yet, but I have to say... keep the series going! I always like watching the repair/restoration videos.
1:36 That IO area is a bloody desert!
I can relate as a biomed equipment specialist. I get a work order for an issue, and we try to recreate the problem. If we can't recreate it, we do a basic preventative maintenance and send it back. Great video! Keep up the great work!
I actually really like these vids.
Not every rig has to have a POST problem. Sometimes we just need to learn what areas to focus on when doing upgrades.
Seeing the data and listening to the symptoms is a great way to “troubleshoot” your own upgrade path.
Still a win of a video. Learning happened!
Ahhh the classic Best Buy builds that always has issues. Best Buy’s way to get u to spend $100 just for them to tell u they don’t know what’s wrong with it.
To be fair, I bought a Omen Obelisk pre-built from best buy back in 2019 and it was a $1k price tag and boots in 2 seconds according to the start up time. My new PC I built recently boots in 7.8 seconds and I'm just wondering WTF did those guys tho with the software that made it boot so God damn fast?!?! Still haven't figured it out
@@Brawlio13 probably fast startup in bios and in windows? it's just 5 seconds though lol it's not that big of a deal
@@Brawlio13AMD system?
Yep, though this isn't a Best Buy system, it's an Asus system sold at Best Buy. But sold in the same vein.
I did the Geek Squad think for a while, so be nice. Along with myself we had three techs who knew what they were doing...and one guy who had never installed a HDD. The reputation these days is often earned.
Microcenter should sponsor this series. Just sponsoring the replacement parts would be a no brainer deal.
Microcenter works with other you tubers so don't think they aren't part of the game, i'm not even from America and i know this. the point of the video is to find a problem and fix it, not just to say "here have a complete PC upgrade courtesy of Microcenter". that's about it in a nutshell, if you need me to elaborate more then feel free to reply.
Great Wall makes great PSUs. They make private label PSUs.
Same with Super Flower and FSP.
My Corsair is really a Great Wall
Yeah, many Corsair PSUs are made by them, they also make many laptop charging bricks.
@@Louie_M same with mine.
And then is me, 560w for 3080ti, but yeah I know, good brand, rtx undervolt and not so power hungry cpu
You do what your have to friend. Why anyone complains about it is beyond me. Feel happy gregg about what you have done
I love the channel and love upgrade videos. Anything to keep you able to help people out and save some abused systems lol. Keep up the great work.
I love this series, even these where your dealing with a cheap prebuilt with cheap/proprietary components that upgrading one thing such as the cpu, cpu cooler, or the graphics card won't provide the uplift in performance it should because its potential is limited by the other cheap/low end components and fixing them is impossible without acquiring the exact same part or just rebuilding the whole thing which you usually end up doing the latter.
You giving people new hardware to fix problematic computers doesn't bother me at all, its just the reality of dealing with cheap computers where the manufacturer has cut a bunch of corners in making them to save cost. If it fixes the problem the owner sent it to you to for that's a win.
Great video as usual. It's great that you can upgrade items, considering you don't have a parts warehouse in your back yard !!!. Nicely done 🙂
Nice video. It was very nice and very considerate of you to do those Upgrades.
You got to love how Greg loves fighting his niceness but usually ends up losing anyways. Great video and great series. It's one of my favorites on TH-cam.
Let go! Really enjoy this series
My 10 year old son loved this video!! You need to make more of these videos!
Man I hope the owner plans to add a second Ram stick.
Love watching Fix or Flop vids, I learn a lot from them, thanks for the vids.
He got a new case, extra fans, a cooler, and a power supply? I'd say he should be pleasantly surprised. Great job Greg!
Nice fix! Sometimes broken means things are haunted or burned up...and sometimes broken means a design penny pinched to oblivion with subpar components.
Been a while since I built a PC, so just now getting familiar with the latest generations of hardware since I got friends asking for advice. Certainly trying to steer them away from prebuilts at this point since those almost always seem to be a can of worms.
Had a friend with the same prebuilt, and the same bothering issues. I recommended a case, a Hyper 212 and better RAM, and it was night and day difference. What you did is enough to give it new life, and give the owner a feeling being upgraded to the max. My friend paid for his stuff, but it was still just under $200.
Greg keep them coming I love watching and I pick a few things up in every episode to help me with my system
Thanx a ton for the video and diagnosis, it's always good to have more knowledge behind the belt.
Noone can comment on what greg does in a negative way. I enjoy the channel. Learnt alot and i take alot more pride in building and cleaning the home pc. My 11 year old watches this with me and now does routine cleaning on his also thank you
All thw way from aus
Greg: i wanna be resourceful with any upgrades i wanna give out and only upgrade what is necessary
also Greg: upgrades 3 components of the PC to premium ones
Great video Greg.....again. Gave them path to upgrade as well. Keep em coming.
Love your work, attitude, and diagnosis process.
That said, I would have preferred to see a video where you kept this case, and made it work. I understand the cooler fitment complicated things, but as someone has literally worked within the 'next iteration' of this plagued Asus ROG case... I was super interested when I saw the thumbnail.
Overall, still an awesome job.
Fun video Greg. Just a quick suggestion, if you feel a build is somewhat deficient in USB ports a USB card with usually 4 USB ports is a very cheap option. If the motherboard has USB connectors on the bottom the 4 port breakout fishplate adapter can be as little as $6. This client scored big time with the new case, CPU cooler and 1000W PSU. As others have said here Great Wall is a good quality OEM brand.
No worries here, I've watched many of your fix or flop videos and have always felt that your decisions about upgrades have been well thought out and make total sense!
Anyone reading this PLEASE give Greg Salazar a *few spare parts for the Fix or Flop* series...
I totally agree!!! He is bust.
new cooler looks HUGE !!!! great upgrade for your customer
I love upgrade episodes too! Maybe it’s not everyone cup of tea but it’s pretty exciting to see viewers get these awesome builds! Although I totally get we can’t have that all the time lol 😅
That pre-built cut so many corners it went from a square to a circle lol. I can feel your pain inside with that motherboard, great episode and upgrade nevertheless!
I will say, I was one of the few that bought a prebuild (before I started building custom rigs) from bestbuy and it actually worked, and worked great. It was a CyberPowerPC rig. All the components were brand named, the cable management was spot on, and it came at a really nice price RX580/R5 3600 for $650 in 2020. It became the base of my future upgrades for a two years. I have heard nothing but bad things about these Asus ROG prebuilts. Anyways... Great video as always greg lol.
That single stick of RAM is absolutely killing me
That was a great upgrade. You gave a path to the future with the upgrades.
Ohnestly your doing your best. Its not even my computer yet im greatfull for you doing your best to help ppl to the capacity you can.
Greg does it again! Thanks again Greg for helping people, You are fantastic!
This is by far the best playlist on this platform, I'm already looking forward to the next episode!
A nice and easy fix. You love to see it! Hats off to you for helping all these people with their troubled systems.
That board has to be proprieterry, no one would buy it separately
Thanks for the video Greg! As always very informative and nice for watching
The Dark Rock 4 comes to the rescue. This cooler is one of the best on the market. I used it on a 5800X3D stock settings and temps never went higher than 76 degrees at full load (stock settings)
That is the most bare bones motherboard I have seen in awhile. Holy moly.
"I don't want to upgrade too much, I need to be resourcefull" -> Proceeds to upgrade the case, cpu cooler and psu. xD No front it was just funny. Great video as always.
honestly i like the case upgrade as it gives the viewer the chance up upgrade to a better board in the future i also agree you cant always upgrade everything you do what you can with what you are given props to you for these vids i enjoy them
Greg: I cant replace too many things on these builds. Also Greg: I will replace the cpu cooler, case and PSU.
but that single ram stick looks fine....who needs dual channel?
he means the more expensive parts usually like graphics card
Poor choice really in replacing a totally fine psu and not upgrading the single channel generic low speed ram in the system. Amateur hour at it’s finest.
Would have just replaced the cooler and swap/add RAM.
Honestly, i agree with you guys, but I'd actually be very, very happy with what he did.
Ar this point, the 9700 is outdated anyway.
I'd get an AM5 (or intel 1800 later this year) into that case and change the GPU late this year, once they launch RDNA 4 and Blackwell.
I think he paved the way greatly for an upgrade and he states it at the end.
According to GN the Great Wall PSU is fine not good but not bad.
Never doubt your self.... Good Job Greg !!!
I think you gave it a good upgrade and of course driver updates are a must. Which is what you did right off the bat.
Hi Greg, lovin` your series and watchin` every episode, don`t be bothered with a dodgy comments. One thing i need to mention, STOP with explaining yourself. You are a great guy who gives a LOT as a charity, your time, effort and free parts. People are watchin` your channel globally - greets from Poland mate ;)
I dont think you need to upgrade all the other things for this, issues where that it ran hot and was loud, and you fixed those issues. job well done.
had a friend buy a prebuilt from best buy and they did something similar. he got a 8700k and a 2080 and couldnt multitask in any way. things like they couldnt join a discord vc and game at the same time without discord cutting out constantly. asked him what his temps were and his cpu was sitting at 100%, below base clock, and at 100c. it was absolutely thermal throttling because they put a 120mm aio with 2 fans on it for the cooler. he got a dual tower air cooler and hasnt had any issues since
I got a ridiculous deal on an Asus G15CE (i7-11700F + 3070).
The cooling system is *hilariously* under spec'd. It couldn't complete the Windows installation without shutting down and the UEFI through an "Over temperature event" warning.
I used it for a couple of days while my Noctua Chromax 92MM (NF-A9) shipped.
I lived in an apartment at the time and my neighbors *actually complained* about how loud the system was!
They didn't complain about my subwoofer or my home theater system.
They complained about the computer fan which was "driving them insane."
With these systems I'll up the customer to a main stream Motherboard & PSU, up it to dual channel Ram and that will usually get the numbers in the ball park respectably. For the cooler anything goes really but the shadow rock line will keep it good and not break the bank. Great video.
If only Greg could produce content everyday. When I go to YT, my first search is for a new GS vid. Always.
Looks like something Geek Squad built with the cheapest parts, and/or out of open box returns.
back in the GPU gouging days, I bought an Omen 40 from HP so I could get a 3080, from the factory it came using the radiator as the only case exhaust. So my 3080 cooking the interior was being exhausted thru the radiator causing thermal throttle right out of the box. Ram would not OC and was 2133 mhz vs 4000 mhz DO NOT BUY PRE BUILTS! Tanks to MIcro Centers amazing bundles I grabbed a new intel bundle and left all of HP in the trash can
Still enjoy this series very much. Keep it up
Hey Greg, I thought the upgrades you did with this PC made sense! I don't like the motherboard either, but you fixed the main problems with this one!
that single ram stick is laughing about this upgrade..
I just started watching your channel and now you have a new subscriber :) love your content and can’t wait to see more
I would really like you to start the repair process with a segment where you tell us about the specs if the rig. Like the cpu, GPU, ram snd PSU specs. Make it an every episode must have for the future upgrades :) from pausing the video I checked that it was an lga1151 motherboard, so I assume it was an i7 9700 of some sort (you mentioned an i7)
As for the rig - i would personally leave the case as is, put a smaller cooler (like a 92mm be quiet pure rock slim) and add another stick of ram (or put a new set) to get the most of the cpu with dual channel. And the PSU of course too.
dont worry greg any help is appreciated u dont have to replace anything but u do
I'm sure it makes you feel better to express your thoughts/feelings but ultimately, it's your channel, your time, your effort. Please don't for a second feel bad about what you choose to do because a select few people attribute to unhealthy mindsets. You're doing a good thing, that's all that matters.
Greg, no explanation needed for what you can and cannot replace. You are decent enough to even look at someone's pc and tell them what's wrong with it. That alone is of great value. Especially for those who don't know how to troubleshoot.
This exact issue happened with my prebuilt. Went through every component until I figured out it was the cpu cooler
My brother had bought an identical build to this a few years back. I recently took it in and cleaned it up for him. The overall build quality is an absolute nightmare. The motherboard was Jammed down onto one of the standoffs so much it was poking through. The extra metal frame that was along the pcie slots was holding on tight to that GPU. I've never been more sure something was going to break. But Luckily the only thing that that got really injured was my hands with all the micro cuts lol.. I really hope you had a better time with this than I did.
My first pc was a prebuilt ASUS from BestBuy, it came in a funny shaped case that left me with zero upgrade options graphics card or ram wise. While I learned about pc's and pc building I started wanting more, so while I saved to buy all the pieces for a new pc I decided to mod/hack up my current proprietary shit box via a pcie riser and a standalone psu to power the gtx1080ti I had bought off craigslist, threw that 750ti in the trash so fast. Was so ready to do something with my new found love of pc's I ended up putting a water-cooling adapter plate and an AIO on the 1080ti, even though it ran perfectly cool before as it sat outside of the case and got fresh air coming from the air vent in my office. Long story short, don't buy a prebuilt that is not built using off the shelf parts.
That ram looked really cheap too. Thanks Greg for the fix or flop videos.
Loving this series, been watching almost every episode! Were the tests done with the sidepanel on or off on his old case btw? In every shot it was off, so I just have to ask. Considering how restrictive the case was on airflow, it would definitely make a difference on GPU thermals. Having run into the black screen issue myself with seemingly normal GPU temps, it seemed to be more closely linked to VRAM temps in my instance.
Thank you for these videos. I started flipping pc’s and having watched these since season 1 I have been able to trouble shoot things easily when building pc’s.
PSU was a “Better safe than sorry” swap so I don’t mind it, the cooler was 1000% necessary, I had to get an AiO for my brother’s build because of how hot his chip was getting with the stock cooler. It wasn’t overheating but I did not feel comfortable letting the CPU get that hot under load.
Good job Greg!
Maybe once per season of this show, do an episode where it is basically just a massive upgrade job and then maybe film their reactions when you hand it back and be like "I did fix it, BUT also I just pimped yo PC!" *Insert X-zibit*
Awesome series Greg 👏🏼 Look forward to weekly episodes
That is some fantastic upgrades.
Love the antec performance 1, and bequiet products are really nice.
Looking forward to the next video :D
I like this series and you're doing a great service for the community! With that said, I feel like you over explain yourself on the decisions you make... Not trying to sound harsh but it's a little bit hard to listen to. Keep up the good work though!
That rig will definitely - DEFINITELY - need some attention to VRM cooling now that the CPU will be able to pull its TDP (or more). I'd suggest a fan (90/120 x 15mm) cut from its frame and attached to the CPU cooler back-plate with a few blobs of RTV (a lash-up, but practically inaudible and of course invisible).
As someone who came from a prebuilt. i dont see an issue with replacing the case, PSU and cooler with something better. IF anything it's more responsible to do all that. Keep doing the good work.