Why Vinyl Records Are Making a Comeback

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  • In 2022, vinyl records surpassed CDs as the best-selling music physical format. This is the first time it has happened since 1987. Why the sudden shift? Why did a medium that was kept around mostly because of nostalgia and novelty now take back its place at the top?
    Invented in 1948, vinyl records became the definitive way of listening to music in just a couple of years and stayed that way for decades. With the invention of cassette tapes, they gradually became less and less popular.
    Cassettes were just smaller and more convenient, which contributed to their popularity. Vinyl stayed around but the glory days were long gone. With the invention of the internet, then streaming, physical media in general took a backseat for a long time. A few enthusiasts and audiophiles still preferred the warm sound of the vinyl to the alternatives.
    This community kept the medium alive and even somewhat directly caused the vinyl revival. The bigger cover art that you can display at your home, the joy of going to a record store to talk about music and hunting rare second-hand vinyl records as a hobby all contributed to the recent comeback.
    They are still less popular than streaming but are widely considered to be the most involved and interesting way of listening to music.
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  • @HeyThereItsEnzo
    @HeyThereItsEnzo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    As a Gen Xer I can say that streaming has helped me determine which new albums to buy. I can listen to dozens of albums via streaming services before deciding what to get. For me it's very important that I can listen and enjoy a whole album before buying it, especially if you're investing in vinyls. Back in the 80s this wasn't possible, so enjoy the best of both worlds. Hope it sticks forever!

  • @recordtime4923
    @recordtime4923 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Vinyl is one way that I choose to listen to music. I also listen to CDs, streaming services, and, yes, even tapes. I can listen to whatever I want on a streaming service but there’s something to be said for finding an album in my collection, being able to feel the album cover in my hands, opening the gatefold cover, dropping the needle on the record and playing side one then side two (the way the artist intended). It’s not “nostalgia” it’s a complete experience of listening. I’m not knocking the other methods of listening.

    • @quattrofrank
      @quattrofrank ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Dont forget the record and needle brush :)

  • @hawaiifiles
    @hawaiifiles ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The major problem I have with new vinyl records is that they are extremely expensive when compared to CDs today and vinyl from decades ago. I am glad I have a small collection of vinyl records I bought from back in the day when most records were under $10 new.

    • @RecordGuyJ
      @RecordGuyJ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ehh, I wouldn't be so sure. 80s, maybe? But the price of your regular LP in the 60s was anything but cheap.

    • @small_ed
      @small_ed 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@RecordGuyJLikely so, and currently vinyl sycophants are paying quadruple and quintuple for yesterday's technology!

  • @analogkid4557
    @analogkid4557 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I never stopped listening to my vinyl collection and have never stopped buying them.

  • @akmmonirulislam3961
    @akmmonirulislam3961 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I'm very happy to see young people are listening to Vinyl. I'm 64 now and never gave up vinyl in my life. Well, I listened to cassettes and CDs and mp3 files from my computer hard disk and USB drive but I'm a vinyl person. Thanks. Monir from Dhaka, Bangladesh.

    • @janath9118
      @janath9118 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Are vinyl records of western music available for sale in Bangladesh at this present time!? Are there plenty of music stores in Dhaka and other towns!? Here in Sri Lanka vinyl records as well as and music stores are dwindling since sometime. Thanks for a reply!

  • @scottcortez1313
    @scottcortez1313 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    playing vinyl is like driving a dodge charger from 1970, it was cool in the 70's and cool now. digital is as fun as a rental electric scooter, it is convenient, will get you where you need to go, and you don't feel bad just leaving it anywhere, but it isn't cool. 'oh wow what a beautiful and impressive collection of digital files' said no one ever.

    • @davidlong1786
      @davidlong1786 ปีที่แล้ว

      Uhhhhhh digital is playback as it was recorded and produced. Vinyl is old tech the reproduces at best 90% of the sound. You sound like some one that listens to their equipment rather than the music. Please educate yourself as to why CD/digital will ALWAYS sound better as long as the master is recorded well and some moron doesn't try to cram as much loudness and compression into the format.

    • @dtz1000
      @dtz1000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also, the sound quality is better on vinyl. That is the most important thing.

  • @HalcyonRyan
    @HalcyonRyan ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I like vinyl for having the big album art on my wall, the gorgeous pressings as i play a record and the intentional feel instead of just throwing on a playlist.

  • @smallfaucet
    @smallfaucet ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Another cool bit: lots of things not released on vinyl from the 90's are being released currently.

  • @charleswilliams8368
    @charleswilliams8368 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Records have been part of my life since I can remember, and it brings joy to my heart to know they're still around.

  • @leewightman8619
    @leewightman8619 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    They sound so good there's just something about the bass that hits different and the sounds richer

    • @xxBLKSNXxx
      @xxBLKSNXxx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There really is I streamed a song of a record I have and was shocked how insanely clearer and the bass sounds on vynil.

  • @BiserAngelov1
    @BiserAngelov1 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    The vinyl is coming back, as a consequence of the loudness wars. Although vinyl cannot sound better, than a CD, it most definitely sound better than an over compressed, flat, remaster on CD.

    • @Terribleathletes
      @Terribleathletes ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Which is exactly why classic rock/jazz fans who knew better never made the switch to CDs. Analog recordings that have been digitally remastered suck.

    • @The_Original_Geoff_B
      @The_Original_Geoff_B ปีที่แล้ว +10

      "Vinyl cannot sound better "?? In what universe?

    • @BiserAngelov1
      @BiserAngelov1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@The_Original_Geoff_B The one we live. The one full of pseudo-audiophiles.

    • @jerryspann8713
      @jerryspann8713 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Terribleathletesfunny, because the same loudness war masters are used for vinyl. Brainwashed sheeple. Bottom line is the music industry doesn't want you to own cds. They can't put DRM on them and keep you from making perfect .flac files from CDs which can be put on your phone are car stereo, which results in lost sales of streaming and iTunes purchases. The music industry knows people want physical copies of their music, so instead of making it available on a state of the art technology they press it on vinyl that degrades after each play.

    • @jmi5969
      @jmi5969 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@BiserAngelov1 One does not need to be a "phile" to hear not-so-subtle differences in mixing and mastering. Indeed, a poorly mastered vinyl can sound atrociously dull - but so does a poorly mastered and/or brickwalled CD.

  • @blackocean75
    @blackocean75 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Its not only listening but hours spending in record stores to find vinyls.

  • @jmua8450
    @jmua8450 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    It’s not a fad. Anyone with ears can tell that vinyl recordings sound best.

    • @xxBLKSNXxx
      @xxBLKSNXxx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Indeed vynil does sound so much better. I streamed a song of a record I have and compared and was totally blown away how much better it was on vynil.

  • @tedlogan5628
    @tedlogan5628 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Not record collector but have distinct memories of using our families old turn table set up in the living room. What I remember most was how full the sound was coming out of the speakers and the little odd noises when putting one in (hiss, pop, crackle). Blew my little mind!
    Tired of streaming subscriptions and digital. Leaning towards diving into the record world!

    • @mypalfootfoot9591
      @mypalfootfoot9591 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's a certain sophistication to playing a vinyl record, it creates a feeling which harkens back to a time past, a time before social media, streaming movies, smart phones, online dating, digital everything! It seemed to be a less chaotic time, it was a time of personal interactions, Michael Caine's glasses, Connery's Bond, Bridget Bardot's bikini, Grace Kelly becoming a princess, poetry readings, epic movies that played for months in the same theater, women wearing sun dresses with white gloves, independent book stores, 3 TV channels, one hour news broadcasts, a simpler time when we weren't consumed by the myriad forms of contemporary media.
      Console stereos, Grundig, Magnavox, Zenith, some with reel to reel players were prevalent. It wasn't unusual to see someone on their way to a friends house with several albums under their arm, everyone had a stereo system with a turntable back then. Adults would have cocktail parties and play Take Five from Dave Brubeck's Time Out album or Miles' Birth of the Cool or Bennett, Sinatra, Bobby Darin, Peggy Lee or Nina Simone.
      Perhaps, the act of selecting an album, placing it on a turntable, lowering the stylus and settling in for a listen is a way to recapture a part of the past in which people seemed to be more urbane, elegant and less troubled?

  • @stevejones8660
    @stevejones8660 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I play vinyl for the exercise. Getting up off my butt to flip the LP every 22 minutes has given me the body of a 20 year old Olympic swimmer.

  • @lucalone
    @lucalone ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The one and only reason why I started collecting vinyl records back in 2003 was because of the damn LOUDNESS WAR in the mastering of compact discs !!
    And even 20 (!) years later, this damn LOUDNESS WAR is still not over.....
    If compact discs would be mastered as they were from '83-'86 I would have never ever bought a single vinyl record....
    And you know why a vinyl record can't clip (just google audio clipping...) ???
    Because if they would master vinyl records as loud as they do with compact discs the needle would always jump out of the groove !!

  • @travingalloverthemap8375
    @travingalloverthemap8375 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This may seem weird but for me vinyl record is nostalgia even though I'm only in my 30s my grandmother had a vinyl record player. Unfortunately she passed away a long time ago but I still listen to vinyl and remember her I miss my grandmother.

    • @mypalfootfoot9591
      @mypalfootfoot9591 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It may be that there's a certain sophistication to playing a vinyl record, it creates a feeling which harkens back to a time past, a time before social media, streaming movies, smart phones, online dating, digital everything! It seemed to be a less chaotic time, it was a time of personal interactions, Michael Caine's glasses, Connery's Bond, Bridget Bardot's bikini, Grace Kelly becoming a princess, poetry readings, epic movies that played for months in the same theater, women wearing sun dresses with white gloves, independent book stores, 3 TV channels, one hour news broadcasts, a simpler time when we weren't consumed by the myriad forms of contemporary media.
      Console stereos, Grundig, Magnavox, Zenith, some with reel to reel players were prevalent. It wasn't unusual to see someone on their way to a friends house with several albums under their arm, everyone had a stereo system with a turntable back then. Adults would have cocktail parties and play Take Five from Dave Brubeck's Time Out album or Miles' Birth of the Cool or Bennett, Sinatra, Bobby Darin, Peggy Lee or Nina Simone.
      Perhaps, the act of selecting an album, placing it on a turntable, lowering the stylus and settling in for a listen is a way to recapture a part of the past in which people seemed to be more urbane, elegant and less troubled?

    • @C.Q_Wilkenson
      @C.Q_Wilkenson 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Similar experience. My kindergarten teacher had one back in the year 2000.

  • @lowenbad
    @lowenbad 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Vinyl never went away for me. I miss the early 2000’s when I could buy vinyl off ebay for $0.01 plus shipping.

  • @Tigeron1a
    @Tigeron1a ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The draw is the art and the craft of music. Its not just buying music. Its tangible. Real, raw, more involved, makes you listen to an album the way the artist intended.

  • @InfectiousGroovePodcast
    @InfectiousGroovePodcast ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Vinyl records are a big deal to me. I don't even bother with the argument of what format sounds best anymore. For me, I just love the size and physicality of vinyl records. I do a mix of streaming and vinyl listening at home. Both are enjoyable for different reasons but overall, I prefer the vinyl experience.

  • @maximesteinebrunner9941
    @maximesteinebrunner9941 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    if you ever listen to a 45 rpm vinyl remaster you know what I mean by saying the artist is singing right in front of you. No streaming can ever replace that organic sound that you get from vinyl

  • @greencraig8570
    @greencraig8570 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I tend to listen exclusively to vinyl these days. It has nothing to do with nostalgia, hipster cred, cover art, or colored records. I prefer vinyl (If it's an AAA all-analog recording) to digital because it sounds better. I had a $7000 SACD player. I had an Aurender server with lossless files. They never measured up to their vinyl counterparts. These days CDs and digital files can sound "good", but compared to vinyl on a revealing system (unfortunately, that usually means expensive) there is no comparison. There is an organic (NOT "WARM"!) , involving sound with records that the digital medium can't match. I will listen to artists on digital that have never recorded on vinyl and they are "OK-good", not horrible as in the first days of CDs. It's not a tribal thing or an intellectual thing, it's just that my body feels an analog recording in a way that it doesn't respond to digital. To me, digital can be glassy, hard, and uninvolving for the most part. Michael Fremer just gave a "10" sound rating to the latest Costello/Bacharach record and it was an ADA recording, so I am open to digital being part of the production chain. Who knows what the future will bring? But for now nothing gets my foot tapping and my body swaying like analog.

    • @earl007
      @earl007 ปีที่แล้ว

      Organic and involving sound I think you mean distortion. How many vinyl heads picked up that mo fi were putting a digital process in the vinyl. Zero.

  • @NerdyRed23
    @NerdyRed23 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm super duper glad that vinyl came back I've always been an LP person

  • @AndyBHome
    @AndyBHome ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I can only speak for myself, but the fact that streaming services can and do pull titles from their offerings at any time, and the fact that CD players have a more finite lifespan than I originally imagined, drove me to ownership of vinyl. To be clear, in just as happy with ownership of digital files and CDs. Even cassette tapes would make me quite happy. But with CD and cassette we face the disappearance of players in the case of CD, and media in the case of magnetic tape. I do like high quality too. The most popular and biggest streaming company, Spotify, different stream in the quality level that sounds really up to the level of a vinyl record on a full sized stereo system. Most other streaming companies do have higher quality streaming which is plenty good enough for me. But ultimately, many of the things I want to listen to are not streaming. I can't listen to original TV theme songs on any of the streaming services. I can't get most Lenny Dee albums (the organ player, not the Heavy Metal singer) on streaming services. Obviously I also can't just get whatever I want on vinyl either. But I keep and use my vinyl audio system because it's a way to play things I can't play any other way, and it's a way to obtain things that won't just disappear from my collection without warning.

  • @jesserussell7242
    @jesserussell7242 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Streaming services are OK but there’s something wonderful about listening to cassettes CDs and vinyl I will continue to buy all three format because I love them so much I think they give you a really better experience plus you’re in control of the music you were if you were streaming it because if you were streaming some thing then all the albums wouldn’t be available all the time.

  • @SoundlabStudios63
    @SoundlabStudios63 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Now that we have streaming, people don’t want the most convenient physical media, they want the best.

  • @ellisgarbutt1925
    @ellisgarbutt1925 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I do stream music but I will never stop buying & or stop using DVD,'s & CD's recently got into vinyl cassette & minidisc much better audio quaility on some of the format than streaming can ever do

  • @MrJdebest
    @MrJdebest ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I hated vinyl records. They get scratches, warp, skips, and ticks are pops . I was so happy when CD came out - play the entire album on one side, easy selection of songs, resistant to scratches and no noise.
    Going vinyl is going back to a lousy technology 😮

    • @robertjanicki5906
      @robertjanicki5906 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      A vinyl record degrades with each playing. The sound fidelity goes down hill rapidly. I understand why afficiandoes prefer vinyl records. It's mostly nostalgic.

    • @renegodeau5060
      @renegodeau5060 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think exactly the same thing, plus they take up more space!!👍👌

    • @scottcortez1313
      @scottcortez1313 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@robertjanicki5906 are you playing records with wolverines claws or playing acetates? the record can handle a good number of plays and you could always make a copy of it on tape.

  • @vinylrules4838
    @vinylrules4838 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I know dozens and dozens of people that enjoy/listen to vinyl and nobody I know listens to vinyl for "Nostalgia" reasons. Sheesh

  • @jesserussell7242
    @jesserussell7242 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love my cassettes CDs and vinyl records I need to bring back 78 because it’s one of the greatest final recordings ever even though it’s the records I think they’re great. I love vinyl hearing the sound of it is awesome and CDs are fantastic because you get more music on it. First I grew up listening to cut that I had a Walkman and I play cassette tapes and I got into CDs in the early 90s then I got into vinyl tears afterwards.

  • @missbonekittyasylum3715
    @missbonekittyasylum3715 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The biggest mistake of the music industry: the closure of all pressing plants and the clearing of warehouses with tons of records. Today everyone is crying about the machines and the discarded records. Millions were lost that way! To quote the Wu Tang Clan: "You must think first, before you move!"

    • @monaural2.988
      @monaural2.988 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In a sense, it’s too late. The prices for vinyl have only been rising and rising and rising until growing numbers are declaring themselves out and returning to CDs. The time to be excited for vinyl was the 90s, when people were giving mountains of records of all forms of music away. Now? Have fun paying an average of $40 for that basic copy of “Eagles Greatest Hits”.

    • @missbonekittyasylum3715
      @missbonekittyasylum3715 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@monaural2.988 Yes I agree with you. But the biggest mistake was destroying the machines or emptying the stores on dumps. Millions of dollars were dumped in landfills (with sealed new LP's, 12 inches, 7 inches,...)

    • @monaural2.988
      @monaural2.988 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@missbonekittyasylum3715 The biggest loss was several of the pressing plants that were at least having some form of business in the late 80s. When those were forceably closed by the powers-that-be at the time, vinyl records could never again return to the six to twelve dollar prices we had at that time. And I’m not about to surrender two twenty dollar bills to pay for what essentially were the errors of arrogant CEO’s at that time. I’m sorry, but I’m gonna keep stating it; The new vinyl generation will never truly have what their parents did in the 1970s. Foolish decisions assured it.

    • @missbonekittyasylum3715
      @missbonekittyasylum3715 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@monaural2.988 Again I agree with you. Today money is made everywhere with inflated prices. That's why I give everyone the tip: Buy original pressings, because today's ones are not only expensive, but also have a lot of mistakes, because quality control almost doesn't exist anymore. That the times of the 70s, 80s and that the good quality and the lower prices are over, is a fact. CEO´s are greedy. . .

  • @Boatzerama
    @Boatzerama ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vinyl makes you listen to an album, well one side at least without skipping tracks.

  • @pinkypoohable
    @pinkypoohable 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Apart from the physical aspect of it and the art cover, it is primarily the sound that got me into vinyl music. It is a lot more richer, textured and layered compared to the highly accurate and precise yet sterile sound of digital. Analog has more character, feel and life to the sound. I can tell the difference in my HiFi amplifier and full range floor-standing speakers. The 320kbps sound quality of Spotify wouldn’t cut it. The closest you’ll get is Tidal HiFi Plus where sound quality reaches to 24bit/192kHz in 9216 kbps.

  • @RocknRonni
    @RocknRonni ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The reason people like records is because they like analog not digital converted to analog. you lose the emotional connection to the music that way.
    When folks listen to analog records. it's a emotional connected listening experience. Were you actually sit and listen to the music. digital is music for background listening. When folks are listening to digital formats they're usually doing another task at the same time.

    • @RobertQuant
      @RobertQuant วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Streaming is background music it’s not in the same as cds 💿 have better sound quality

  • @alanarakelian5021
    @alanarakelian5021 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ultrasonic record cleaning has lifted vinyl sound to a whole new level.

  • @TheI3lacky
    @TheI3lacky 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    31 now, started a couple of Years ago... even tho my System isnt the most expensive, i still feel it sounds different and better. I love Vinyl!

  • @benschlotte8242
    @benschlotte8242 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    People next door to a home I was working in had a large dumpster and cleaned out the basement tossing out crates and boxes of records. 45’s and 33’s most of the 45’s were DJ edition records all from the 50’s and 60’s. What a treat it’s been especially when they also tossed the techniques 1800 turntable to play them all on.

    • @monaural2.988
      @monaural2.988 ปีที่แล้ว

      And that’s just one story. Multiply it times 100,000, when no one ever gave a damn.

  • @kenbaird7067
    @kenbaird7067 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a builder of "real" Hifi systems in the vinyl era, I was delighted when CDs came out. Young children bouncing around the house led to endless clicks on my vinyl LPs rendering them useless. Not so with CDs. But today, with excessive compression, CDs have been considerably degraded. You can keep your vinyl, enjoy all the clicks etc.

  • @mrmusiclover4178
    @mrmusiclover4178 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am 82 yrs old and have many, many hundreds of LP records back to when I was in high school in 1956. I transferred a good many of them to digital format in the last 20 years, but that is a time-consuming, tedious chore. In the intervening years, I sort of abandoned the vinyl and have built up a large collection of CD's, some of which are the same album as the original vinyl. I own a very nice Audio Technica Turntable and a decent Onkyo Receiver, and OLD (but decent) speakers I bought in 1966! I used iTunes to transfer over 3,000 tunes from the CD's and LP's to two iPods, one connected to the car stereo and the other to the home stereo. These two iPods are the source of my music now. I probably need to sell the vinyl records, but I live in a small town with meager sales outlets for this sort of thing. Any suggestions from other YT viewers is appreciated. At my age, I much prefer to use the CD's. (BTW, I DESPISE pre-recorded commercial cassette tapes! They all seem to be produced on cheap cassettes! Horrible music source!) Nicely done video, by the way!

    • @Donjasoni
      @Donjasoni ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s amazing! 1956! What sort of music are you into? I’ve been into vinyl for about a decade now. I love it. I listen to everything from Sinatra to the Stones to Otis Redding. Are you interested in selling any of them? I’d love to discuss if you’re interested…and talk music with you. Let me know.

    • @mrmusiclover4178
      @mrmusiclover4178 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Donjasoni I have a lot of classical, opera, some (not much tho) rock, lots of popular music (most from the 60's) and easy-listening.

    • @Donjasoni
      @Donjasoni ปีที่แล้ว

      I like the 60s stuff and the rock. I have a lot of classical already.

    • @Donjasoni
      @Donjasoni ปีที่แล้ว

      I like the 60s stuff and the rock. I have a lot of classical already.

    • @Donjasoni
      @Donjasoni ปีที่แล้ว

      I like the 60s stuff and the rock. I have a lot of classical already.

  • @jhodges3131
    @jhodges3131 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Top notch sound system is absolutely neccessary with vinyl. My Pro Ject turntable and 350 watt Sony amplifier with 4 Akai floor speaker...sounds like your actually in the studio with the band...😊

  • @tto0508
    @tto0508 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vinyl is the best option to listen to songs imo. I love vintage and old stuff + I'm also an audiophile, so, I love play music on my turntable.
    Vinyl and Spotify are best things to listen to music. But vinyl is still a great type to listen to music.

  • @mrhoffame
    @mrhoffame ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think what is telling?...I work at a record shop and you would NOT BELIEVE the number of people that come in, buy records, and don't even have a turntable to play them on. So for some people it's sound, for some nostalgia, but ultimately the surge in vinyl is about bringing music, art, and conversation BACK INTO THE REAL WORLD for people. We are human. WE like to touch, we like to see, we like to smell, we like to be social in person, etc. As much as technology has tried to trick us into thinking we can do it all virtually by foregoing our senses vinyl is reminding people you are still flesh and blood and they LOVE the feel of it. Daydreaming about your favorite road trip will never be as good as actually taking it. The excitement of grabbing that record, telling a story to yourself, showing it to a friend in the store, then buying something physical to take home...EVEN IF you can't play it when you get home is STILL just flat out exciting and people people are rediscovering that. I tell people all the time vinyl shops are nothing more than BILLIONS of memories sitting on the shelf and it's just exciting to go through and relive some of your own.

    • @RobertQuant
      @RobertQuant วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      For me it’s cds 💿 I used to go to Best Buy a lot when cds 💿 we’re so popular and got to experience going every Tuesday for new releases and buy albums on cds 💿 with my earn money and brings back soooo many memories 💿💿💿🤬📀📀✋🏻✌️✌️✌️ Physical media for the win

  • @jmi5969
    @jmi5969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn't quit vinyl in the 1990s, didn't quit CDs in the 2000s. To me it was only about availability. Many vinyl titles remain vinyl-only, they were never transferred professionally to CDs or were pressed in vanishingly low numbers, and they didn't make it to streaming services. Most music outside of mainstream Americana - say, Estonian prog from the early 80s - is still mostly legacy vinyl, and quite inexpensive even compared to bootleg CDs.

  • @seand67
    @seand67 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You pay for a subscription to 'rent' music while streaming. Physical media is yours to actually own

  • @tuskedbeast
    @tuskedbeast ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cassettes didn't replace records.

    • @Solitaire001
      @Solitaire001 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sales of the Compact Cassette (CC) did exceed that of the LP mainly due to the introduction of the Sony Walkman and other personal CC players. However, a factor that worked against the CC was the sound quality of the tapes wasn't very good compared to the LP. Due to that many people, including myself would buy an album on LP and then record it to CC. This was because with a little effort and preparation, and using good equipment and tape, you would get better results than from the pre-recorded cassette.
      Towards the end of the CCs life the Recording Industry worked to improve the sound quality of pre-recorded CCs. On record company, A&M, started releasing Type II tapes biased for Type I playback (one of these was "Synchronicity" by The Police) and they sounded good. Another development was the introduction of Cobalt tape, a Type I formulation that was better than the standard ferric oxide tapes. Unfortunately, it is likely that it was too little, too late to save the CC.

  • @chrisrees7054
    @chrisrees7054 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The price of records is insane!!

    • @travelllller
      @travelllller 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I do not mind the price when I get quality product. Recently I bought Led Zep debut album for 29 bucks. Sound quality is shit, print quality of the cover is under even lowest standard, and label sticker (glued in the center of cover art) is placed upside down. Not THAT is ridicoulous.

  • @theallseeingmaster
    @theallseeingmaster ปีที่แล้ว +10

    There is vinyl and then there are all the others. That about sums it up.

  • @Abitibidoug
    @Abitibidoug 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm 63 years old and have seen different audio formats come and go. In 1989 I walked into a record store and saw vinyl records had suddenly disappeared. Then, in 2009 I saw vinyl's return at another record store. Personally I prefer tapes and CDs because they're easily portable but the question that begs to be asked is, if vinyl's so great why did it disappear for all those years?

    • @carlodelysid
      @carlodelysid หลายเดือนก่อน

      To give those of us not interested in CD's an opportunity to buy lots of vinyl for cheap as trendy folks dumped their LP's for the new show in town? Sure worked that way for me.

    • @Abitibidoug
      @Abitibidoug หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@carlodelysid Good point, you're thinking like a contrarian. It reminds me of back in 1983 when at a record store there was a bargain bin full of 8 track tapes for 50 cents each. In more recent times I've scooped up many cheap cassettes at yard sales or second hand stores. I even found a few that someone threw in the rubbish, in good usable condition.

    • @carlodelysid
      @carlodelysid หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Abitibidoug Yeah.... now CD's are being rendered obsolete and cheap. A digital medium that take up space and have to be handled compared to easy low cost streaming with a phone. Vinyl, that heavy, bulky, labor intensive medium, by virtue of being analog, has the edge being outside that box. Now it's "trendy". Go figure.

    • @Abitibidoug
      @Abitibidoug หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@carlodelysid Good news, it looks like I'll be able to scoop up some cheap CDs at yard sales or second hand stores.

  • @mattolinallc8888
    @mattolinallc8888 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m from Gen Z and make music. I started making music on a custom vinyl record album from Dr.Energizer(6) because of the consequence of not owning anything on Spotify and online streaming and online games I’m bit of a old soul as a 21 year old stuck in a 100 year old body but with a young spirit. It’s about ownership without the internet and not worrying about updating and using the internet because of net neutrality and data caps.😊😊😊 Support physical media for ownership and own property rather than Own Nothing and Be Happy.😊😊😁😁😍😍🥰🥰🥰

  • @Lyon_Jolie
    @Lyon_Jolie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What made special is a single 12inch with all remixes…. Thats awesome.

  • @savadeelephantes2773
    @savadeelephantes2773 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video is a bit late

  • @donjohnstone3707
    @donjohnstone3707 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I play both records and CD's and, in my opinion, there is nothing that makes vinyl records special. Asking what makes good quality CD's special compared to vinyl records is a much better question, as the reasons are very obvious and provable to anyone who cares about long lasting sound quality, convenience of use and value for money. These days CD's show Vinyl records up as being an expensive ripoff. New vinyl records are mostly made from digital recordings and/or other digitally remastered sources anyway. PS. I stopped buying new vinyl records back in the 1990's and have plenty of old original records I sometimes play but I mostly prefer CD's, which can give me up to 80 minutes of great music that I can listen to as many times as I want without any wear and consequent deterioration in sound quality, unlike playing noisy vinyl records.

  • @anthonymorris1998
    @anthonymorris1998 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ❤ my Vinyl collection so much!! These records are very precious to me!! Their my babies. I have to make they are well taken care of!!

  • @Cherr1
    @Cherr1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You say that the superior sound quality of vinyl is a myth, which is a pretty irresponsible claim, because the sound quality of music is not an objective thing. But what is indisputable, even for engineers, is that vinyl and digital do sound different, and in ways that cannot always be measured by standard means. You assume that the preference for vinyl is nostalgia based, without any evidence, but I'd be willing to bet that if you surveyed the people who bought those 41 million LPs last year, the majority would say that it is because they prefer the sound. Certainly that's the case with me, and it's what I hear from the younger people I know who listen to vinyl.
    It seems to me that an engineer should start there: observe that people are hearing a difference that cannot be accounted for in the standard measurements of frequency, noise, and distortion. Clearly, there must be something that isn't currently being measured, and wouldn't it be interesting to figure out what that is?

  • @Toogoodtobetrue458
    @Toogoodtobetrue458 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After having a really terrible literally all in one player with really crappy sound I gave up on analog then I got old and tried my hand in vinyl and I was blown away at how it sounded
    Amazing. But I listen to all formats except for cassettes. I realize that many vinyl records are pressed from digital waves

  • @BomBoo-rn8gj
    @BomBoo-rn8gj 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Rebirth? It never left around 'hear'.
    Digital/streaming is workable in a busy distracted world where listening is secondary and a quick shortcut to the goal is paramount.
    Vinyl/analog requires attention and attention to the music enhances the enjoyment of the experience.
    Start talking over my experience and the digital will come out and I'll join the conversation.
    Yes, I am an old fart...I bought my first vinyl in 1958, 'Jazz Impressions of Eurasia"
    "Music can be made anywhere, is invisible, and does not smell." W. H. Auden

  • @chrisrees7054
    @chrisrees7054 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Who remembers buying records for $3 -$5? Now they are $20 - $50 ea. The DEVIL is in the details. 10 times as much nowadays. Still happy? I didn't think so!

  • @brucermarino
    @brucermarino ปีที่แล้ว +1

    According to this reasoning, should we discard our vintage car collections or vintage fountain pens? I rather think there is more to it. In all events, thanks for an interesting video!

  • @richardpointer
    @richardpointer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It ain't nostalgia. Its freedom from those platforms.

  • @richardcline1337
    @richardcline1337 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I never have been and never will be a user of streaming audio. Anyone that has listened to TH-cam and then the actual record can get an idea of how condensed the sound of streaming audio really is. No, TH-cam isn't streaming audio but the idea is about the same. I have thousands of vinyl records, all ultrasonically cleaned and new sleeves and covers on them. I do collect some CD's but the medium is getting harder and harder to find as most stores no longer carry them due to lack of sales caused by streaming audio services. There is just something really satisfying about placing a stylus (needle) onto a record and hearing sounds many will never know.

  • @chrisrees7054
    @chrisrees7054 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I liked records WHEN you could buy one for $5.00.

  • @patrickwalsh2086
    @patrickwalsh2086 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Avocado-on-toast lovers need only apply!

  • @fluorite1965
    @fluorite1965 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I refuse to spend twenty five to thirty dollars for a new vinyl record.

  • @analogkid4557
    @analogkid4557 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All the people complaining about surfave noise needs to stop playing it on a POS turntable.

  • @theorgelmeisterakathesoapm8589
    @theorgelmeisterakathesoapm8589 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't really miss vinyl records, but I do miss the large album covers.

  • @small_ed
    @small_ed 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In short, nothing aside from clever advertising.

  • @rolando_j_
    @rolando_j_ 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "A few enthusiasts and audiophiles still preferred the warm sound of the vinyl to the alternatives. This community kept the medium alive and even somewhat directly caused the vinyl revival." This is wrong. What they knew is that vinyl has always been a high resolution format. So even if digital options offered another high resolution format, it wasn't better, it was just different. Each format differs in mastering. And there were what many considered better mastering from the offering with vinyl over what was made available from digital. So the audiophile will do what they always do and that's buy the better mastering. Their investment in their gear will get the most out of better mastering. And the community that were still offering vinyl knew this. It became a symbiotic relationship. If vinyl offering had better mastering than digital options, audiophiles would persist in buying it. It wasn't about "warmth" it was about it actually being better. More clarity, improved resolution over original mastering with reissues from the audiophile labels like Analogue Production, Classic Records and Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs. Your assessment that digital is better is false. Digital has more potential because of improved available dynamic range, but poor mastering won't take advantage of it. And that's what happened. We got some really bad mastering with digital. The point is that vinyl offers a satifactory threshold in potential. And better mastering on vinyl if it approaches that threshold will sound better than digital if mastering to their offerings are poorly done. We can argue about why there is extreme recent growth. But let's tell the actual story about why the medium persisted. And your assertation that the 2007 was a year that for "unknown" reason vinyl increased. The well known reason is that 2008 is the first year of Record Store Day. It was an actual successful marketing promotional campaign. Why did it work? I don't know, but marketing exists as a thing because it works. This isn't my job to do this analysis. It's yours because you're supposed be answering this with your click-bait promise of suggesting that this video answers "Why Vinyl Records Are Making a Comeback." And your and answer is simply "unknown." Do some work, maybe you'll get some additional viewer. I'm banning you because I'm sick of content creators wasting my time on TH-cam.

  • @deadandburied7626
    @deadandburied7626 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait for Shellac's return 😂

  • @HawklordLI
    @HawklordLI ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I want to be cool...what should I do?....Oh...I know...I'll buy vinyl albums at exorbitant prices....yeah....that'll make me cool.🤪

    • @RobertQuant
      @RobertQuant วันที่ผ่านมา

      More like they taking all ur money 😊

  • @johnkom2339
    @johnkom2339 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Vinyl on a decent player sounds better than CD. Since CDs have an annoying and fatiguing "digital glare". It's possible to remedy this but only with fairly expensive equipment. By contrast a 300 dollar turntable sounds pretty good. The major drawback of vinyl is of course their size and that they get scratchy after awhile.
    Wav files can be ripped onto a thumb drive. My cd collection has been converted this way, and played on a streaming device thru a DAC. I do still listen to records.

  • @DankSandwich
    @DankSandwich 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I personally can relate to most, if not, all of the sentiments within this video and comment section; but I think there’s a point everybody is neglecting, or maybe just don’t want to talk about: societal collapse. If society collapses and streaming services cease to exist, how will the average person be able to listen to music? Assuming they don’t buy physical copies of music, they can’t, right? I personally want to preserve the music I listen to, I want to be able to plug my record player into a generator and be able to listen to music regardless of the circumstances

  • @7JANEWAY
    @7JANEWAY 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One main reason people are into vinyl is that they own something tangible. When you pay $10/mo. to Spotify or another streaming service, what do you own at the end of the month? Nothing. On the other hand, when you buy a vinyl record, not only do you own something, but you own something tangible that you can hold in your hand. It’s true that you can hold both cassettes and CDs too. But vinyl is larger, so you can see the album artwork better. It’s also something more to look at, which is why people put vinyl records on their wall. Have you ever seen someone put a cassette on the wall?
    And then there’s the experience of playing a record. Popping a cassette or a CD into a player just doesn’t compare to admiring the cover artwork, taking the record out of its jacket, placing it on the turntable, and putting the needle (stylus) on the record. That ritual alone brings satisfaction in a way that CDs and cassettes can’t.
    One of the main objections about vinyl records are the pops and clicks. I find that new records generally (but not always) don’t have this problem. But if a record does, a thorough cleaning usually takes care of the problem, unless it’s due to damage to the vinyl. And some would argue that pops and clicks come with the territory. I don’t agree with that position. But I accept any pops and clicks that I might hear, unless it’s excessive, at which time it’s time to get a new copy (which doesn’t happen very often).
    The fact that vinyl endured during the heyday of CDs and cassettes, and has come back even stronger, is a testament to not only its staying power, but its overall superiority as a format. If records really sounded like crap, then no one would buy them. But they don’t (with proper care), and that’s a fact that’s well known.
    So, for the time being at least, vinyl is here to stay. And I have no doubt that in the future, with whatever format is invented, good old vinyl will still be there!!!

    • @marshto1
      @marshto1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      7janeway vinyl will be around for a long time yet. As you say 7janeway vinyl is something you can own that has a look and feel to it.

    • @RobertQuant
      @RobertQuant วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      😂😂😂😂 ur only talking about the records positives and not negatives cds 💿 u can make duplicates not to get them scratch cam copy records and also u forget cds 💿 have bonus tracks records don’t get extra songs like cds 💿 😂😂😂😂 and also it’s easier to take care of cds 💿 compare to records

    • @7JANEWAY
      @7JANEWAY 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Of course I spoke about the positives, for the video was about why vinyl has made a comeback. In that context, it makes no sense to emphasize the negatives.
      However, if you read my comments again, you’ll see that I talk about the pops and clicks. That certainly is a negative for vinyl. But as I said, with proper care, that’s not a major issue.
      As for CDs: the video was about vinyl, not CDs. So why would I comment on CDs, then? For the record (a deliberate pun), I like CDs, and they do have cleaner sound than vinyl. But for my money, the vinyl sound is where it’s at-blemishes and all!!!

  • @Voykkaido
    @Voykkaido 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just you wait, cassettes are the next comeback, baby! 😜

    • @RobertQuant
      @RobertQuant วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Noooo cds 💿 are better cassettes get chewed up easily

  • @goatman7362
    @goatman7362 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    People like stuff, and when they can get cool stuff, that does something they can already do but “cooler” and is “retro” then its get popular. iPods are still decently popular and so are cassettes.

  • @turtlechris2
    @turtlechris2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i just want more Hi-Res

  • @richardwhite2344
    @richardwhite2344 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A great video!!!! But, I must say that if you take care of records they will last your entire lifetime and still sound as good as they did when you bought them. In some cases, Records do sound better then CD's, it all depends on what care was taken in the recording and mastering process. I have CD's in my collection that sound not very good and others that sound great. Records all sound great. So, while I appreciate CD's Vinyl is much more enjoyable and fun and I Love the idea of physical media in your hands and a large photo to look at and the back of the album jacket to read. Records are better!!!

  • @josmir2797
    @josmir2797 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    While they're at it, they should bring back the reel to reel. The sound quality is superior to cassette tapes.

  • @patrickwalsh2086
    @patrickwalsh2086 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I personally hate vinyls, waste of space, waste of time and waste of money!

  • @chrisrees7054
    @chrisrees7054 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Most of those records you are listening to were recorded 50 years ago when a new record cost $2.99 - $4.99.

  • @earl007
    @earl007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    May 2023. Metallica 72 Seasons. UK charts No 1. CD sales 15,873. Vinyl sales 6,292. Ed Sheeran Subtract. uK charts No 1. CD sales 41,122. Vinyl sales 8,122. Enjoy your hisses and pops.

    • @monaural2.988
      @monaural2.988 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As well as skips and scratches.

    • @RobertQuant
      @RobertQuant วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@monaural2.988moooo my Sony cd player had anti skip protection 😅😅😅 and my cds aren’t scratch I take care of them 📀📀💿💿🙏🙏🙏

    • @RobertQuant
      @RobertQuant วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@monaural2.988oh and 1 more thing Amazon sells scratch removers for cds 💿 and movies so problem solved 😅

  • @djxcel23
    @djxcel23 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Vinyl is way too much money. Its like ridiculous. Its not way it should be costing when technology has got way better. CD’s & dvds are super cheap.

    • @RobertQuant
      @RobertQuant วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That’s why I like cds 💿 more there smaller and cheaper and take up less space but some cds 💿 are expensive if there rare

  • @thedevilslawyer
    @thedevilslawyer หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Streaming is fir the young, uninitiated, surely those who prefer streaming wait long lines at starbucks drive thru while vinyl audiophiles prepare home made espresso with an italian machine

    • @RobertQuant
      @RobertQuant วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      😅😅😅 nice wayyy to put it actually Streaming is for lazyyyyyy 🗑️ cheap ass people that don’t want pay for music and movies and rather rent There music and not support Artist

    • @RobertQuant
      @RobertQuant วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Streamers want everything for free but at the end of the day ur paying a lisenced that’s getting more expensive 😅😅😅😅😅

  • @BillAdams-fb3jm
    @BillAdams-fb3jm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why are records making a comeback? Because mp3s made music so disposable, really. Deleting mp3s from your computer or other device made music disposable -- vinyl is the antithesis of that; it's big, it's bulky (and expensive) and you have to take care of it -- it's basically everything digital music isn't.

  • @jerrywcarman1483
    @jerrywcarman1483 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Vinyl has got too expensive for me. It's CDs and cassettes for me. And when you take about vinyl outselling CDs, you're probably talking about in store sales. You're not talking about online sales. Truth be known, when you consider online sales, CDs may actually be outselling vinyl. You may have to do more homework.

    • @emilspec1227
      @emilspec1227 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are talking about new vinyl and CD sales, both in stores and online, in the US last year.

    • @analogkid4557
      @analogkid4557 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I buy all my vinyl online.

    • @RobertQuant
      @RobertQuant วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That’s what I’m talking about nothing against records but I’m more into cds 💿 more cheaper better sound Quality and u own the music 📀📀📀💿💿💿

  • @60sdj
    @60sdj 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi i am doing a small youtube documentry on album cover art, i was wondering if anyone in the comments would like to appear in it all you would need to do is do a talk to camera about your favorite album covers and talk a little about them. Maybe talk about going to record stores and looking at the covers and all about your personal experiances. i would give your channel a shout out if you have one too. kind regards Vital

  • @galaxykode9243
    @galaxykode9243 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Because that’s what the spirit loves

  • @VinylPro
    @VinylPro ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Vinyl still the best sound...
    no any doubt

  • @glennbarret-jy5ut
    @glennbarret-jy5ut 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like all the impracticalities of the hobby. I’ve also never heard a sound system that rivals my mostly analogue system. With the right DAC, lossless streaming is fantastic, and I use it, but i’d still argue that a well pressed record sounds better again.
    I also have plenty of records that sound like shit. But the same could be said for any shitty master of any recording

  • @MrStarofTruth
    @MrStarofTruth ปีที่แล้ว

    they are a good investment and you must take care of them and have a good Turntable . because they are not like days of old when you can buy a vinyl record at $6.99 they selling as high as $40.00 ...

  • @PhokenKuul
    @PhokenKuul ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wait, the sound quality can be replicated with a good HiFi system? But the sound quality being better is mostly a myth? How are you just going to contradict yourself and then act all normal, like that's fine? The sound quality is either the same regardless of sound system or it's not. And it's not. Some compression of sound happens on any recording, but on digital format of any kind it is greater and it is different, even so-called lossless. Vinyl sounds better, less artificial. If you like AI art then you'll hate vinyl.

  • @Aeternuss
    @Aeternuss ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vinyl sucks and I am addicted

  • @BrianShelby-wc5yq
    @BrianShelby-wc5yq 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I first wanted george benson shiver on 12 inch but after that I discovered e Bay had all the classics on viynl I couldn't buy in my hometown

  • @rogerturner1881
    @rogerturner1881 ปีที่แล้ว

    VINYL 1000000% i started collecting in 1971 my fav artist Connie Francis , but i do listen to other artists too. from Greece

  • @DJboutit2
    @DJboutit2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vinyl crazy has been in full effect for 6 to 7 years now video title is kinda off

  • @PJV1990
    @PJV1990 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    41 million vinyl records sold in 2022. 20 million of them will never be played and will spend their life sitting on a shelf collecting dust thanks to idiotic people who buy vinyl records and don't even own a turntable. 50% of people who buy new vinyl records today don't own a turntable! People like that are ruining vinyl records for those of us who to listen to and appreciate the amazing medium that is vinyl. All they do is push up the prices and reduce availability for those of us who genuinely want a particular release to listen to and enjoy. I don't care what your argument is, vinyl records are meant to be played and enjoyed. Not to sit on a shelf collecting dust for the rest of time!

    • @RobertQuant
      @RobertQuant วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That’s true same with cds 💿 the reason to buy music is to have a music collection and listen to the cds 💿

  • @michaeljoefox
    @michaeljoefox 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The answer is nothing. You’re welcome.

  • @Stonecutter334
    @Stonecutter334 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Because it sounds better than cds and streaming.

    • @RobertQuant
      @RobertQuant วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nawwww cds and records sound better than streaming there both Physicsl media everybody got there preferences

  • @antiquetaperecorderlovermu9699
    @antiquetaperecorderlovermu9699 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super super super ❤❤❤❤

  • @sugarjoe50
    @sugarjoe50 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm sure this'll piss people off, but aside from a select few no way is vinyl making a comeback.

    • @RobertQuant
      @RobertQuant วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ur late it already did in 2024