Rome: The Punic Wars - The Second Punic War Begins - Extra History - Part 2

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  • @birdiemcchicken1471
    @birdiemcchicken1471 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3129

    Not gonna lie. The sight of a war-elephant emerging from the sleet and fog of a pre-dawn winter morning would make an awesome scene for a movie...

    • @VxlvetCece
      @VxlvetCece 8 ปีที่แล้ว +145

      Why d'ya think Tolkein came up with Oliphants? #lotr

    • @birdiemcchicken1471
      @birdiemcchicken1471 8 ปีที่แล้ว +180

      Storm Galaxy2319
      Because he can't spell elephant?

    • @VxlvetCece
      @VxlvetCece 8 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      Well, I was gonna say that it was because he was inspired by Hannibal but wanted a more otherworldly-sounding name for the creatures, but that works too.

    • @Nemoticon
      @Nemoticon 8 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      That is correct. In fact, there was only one Elephant left that survived to see the fight (or at least that is what I have read). Hannibal rode that one obviously. But they are better for intimidation than actual battle. If you fluster an Elephant before your lines meet... say fire a volley of flaming arrows at it, it will panic and create havoc within its own ranks.
      I'm a fan of Hannibal so I'm not going to put that down to foolishness. I just think he wanted history to remember him as a baddass... he succeeded too xD

    • @akatsukami9578
      @akatsukami9578 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      But the Romans had faced elephants in the wars against Pyrrhus some sixty years earlier, and had worked out effective anti-elephant tactics then (as Hannibal was to learn at Zama).

  • @pct87
    @pct87 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1458

    I gotta say, you guys paint a beautiful picture with your words, how you described the romans reaction to elephants was great.

    • @elgostine
      @elgostine 10 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      i heartily agree

    • @MertSu66
      @MertSu66 10 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      elgostine i third the shit out of that motion, i became that roman farmer for a minute

    • @elgostine
      @elgostine 10 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Mert Su
      there is however one slight flaw in this... the romans HAD encountered elephants prior to this i believe when confronting hellenistic armies, although im not sure which war came first.
      still, your average soldier rushed into combat to fight hannibal wouldnt neccesarily have heard of the elephants in the conflicts with the greeks.

    • @kennhyr
      @kennhyr 10 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      elgostine Well, the Roman FACTION did, but these recruits/farmers have never seen them before. It's like a Knight coming across a tank for the first time, only hearing vague stories about it.

    • @elgostine
      @elgostine 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ***** pretty much.. dan is still absolutely right about those things being totally alien to the average italian

  • @EasilyBoredGamer
    @EasilyBoredGamer 10 ปีที่แล้ว +977

    i think this series really shows just how easy it is for history to be made intresting

    • @mohammedtijani3749
      @mohammedtijani3749 9 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      There is something wrong in this video:numedian cavalry was never black we are white

    • @giorgimeqvabishvili8210
      @giorgimeqvabishvili8210 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      amine mchanna nigga?

    • @LordBloodySoul
      @LordBloodySoul 9 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Aboy5768 Yeah, and it also shows how great movies, fantasy novels and games have been influenced by actual historical battles and events as well :)
      I love this show! ^.^

    • @LordBloodySoul
      @LordBloodySoul 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      amine mchanna The army was probably not made up entirely of numedian warriors, boy.

    • @Xamarin491
      @Xamarin491 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Easily Bored Gamer Yeah, this is like my star wars...

  • @iprobablyforgotsomething
    @iprobablyforgotsomething 8 ปีที่แล้ว +678

    "Will you have peace or war?" "War."
    Dude, Peter Jackson totally ripped that line off.

    • @somedragonbastard
      @somedragonbastard 8 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      I like it. Percy Jackson *is* based on Greek and Roman mythology, so I feel like using that line fits.

    • @iprobablyforgotsomething
      @iprobablyforgotsomething 8 ปีที่แล้ว +100

      That may be so, idk. I was referencing *Peter* Jackson's Hobbit-movie line said by Bard, though.

    • @somedragonbastard
      @somedragonbastard 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      +R MH Sorry. I guess I read it wrong.

    • @iprobablyforgotsomething
      @iprobablyforgotsomething 8 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      No worries, it happens.

    • @teatime8535
      @teatime8535 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      R MH i honestly thought you just misspelled Percy Jackson

  • @黎安沛
    @黎安沛 8 ปีที่แล้ว +480

    1:27
    The second punic war was caused by "some damn thing in the balkans"

  • @iainballas
    @iainballas 6 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    "Legit fighting monsters"
    All I picture is two romans going "Bro, wtf is that?" "Dude, don't think, just run!"

    • @theramendutchman
      @theramendutchman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I would completely be on their side in that day and age

    • @kargaroc386
      @kargaroc386 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      what would that be in latin?

    • @amielpatriarca2551
      @amielpatriarca2551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@kargaroc386 That would be:"Frater,quid irrumabo est?Frater,noli cogitare,modo curre!"

  • @connormclernon26
    @connormclernon26 8 ปีที่แล้ว +799

    6:03 losing nearly 70% of your army to attack Rome? Yeah. Why let that get in the way of a good crusade

    • @k0rasi
      @k0rasi 8 ปีที่แล้ว +134

      Actually, there wasn't 98k men who tried crossing the alps. As he said in the video, a lot of them left the army before starting the climb (Hannibal gave them the choice). In the end, only about 45k men+cavalry included did the climb, and between 1/3 and 1/2 died. Out of the 38 elephants who started the journey, only 1 elephant made it to the other side. That kind of ruins the next scene of "Romans fighting monsters" , but it was impressive nonetheless

    • @CarlosRios1
      @CarlosRios1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      That's a lot of attrition.

    • @materbater5596
      @materbater5596 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      well you're kind of wrong i think. hannibal lost his elephants (bar one) in a the winter after he crossed into italy, so according to my memory he should have definitely had them at his disposal for the battle of the trebia

    • @AbbeyRoadkill1
      @AbbeyRoadkill1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      My understanding is that Hannibal only had one elephant left when he emerged from the Arno river marshes (near the modern town of Pistoia) in the spring of 217 BCE (a year after the battles of the Ticinus and Trebbia rivers, which occurred in 218 BCE).

    • @darthbricksempire3606
      @darthbricksempire3606 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Tian Run Xu No, they died after the alps, either after Trebia, or (i dont remember if this happened, but i believe that i remember perhaps reading somehting baout a battle before Trebia, and if that happened, then it would be after that battle, before Trebia, Buuuuut).
      But they died of cold from the Alps, though they did make it into Italy

  • @TheMarctnt
    @TheMarctnt 8 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    "Okay Charlie, I know you hate Carthage but we really need to think before we speak in there."
    "Yeah yeah, I know. Let's do this shit." *Enters* *Carthage* *senate*. "I hold before you peace and war!"
    "Choose what you will!"
    "I choose war!"
    "CHARLIE WHAT THE FUCK?!"
    "WE ACCEPT!"
    "GODDAMNIT CHARLIE!"

  • @jmr2008jan
    @jmr2008jan 9 ปีที่แล้ว +518

    "To this day historians can not agree which river the Ebro R. is"
    Just spent 20 minutes in google earth trying to find the Ebro, only to give up and unpause the video to hear that. History it seems does indeed repeat itself.

    • @fristi61
      @fristi61 8 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      +jmr2008jan Actually I think there may have been a mistake. The Ebro or Ebre is the second largest river in Spain and you can easily find it on Wikipedia. The name of the river that appears on the treaty is actually 'Iber' (which gives its name to the Iberian peninsula), Ebro being the most likely candidate.
      Actually in recent years some new evidence has come to light that the Ebro and the Iber are one and the same.

    • @DeyaViews
      @DeyaViews 7 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      The funny thing is that Barcelona is very clearly north of the Ebro, while Seguntum was very clearly south of it. If the Ebro river was meant to be the border, both Rome's alies and Hamilcar were in violation of it.

    • @michealroth120800
      @michealroth120800 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@DeyaViews Cartography wasn't very good back then, they may have actually thought that Saguntum was North and Barcelona was south.

  • @Randomdudefromtheinternet
    @Randomdudefromtheinternet 5 ปีที่แล้ว +479

    Just imagine the logistic nighmare to keep all those elephants fed. Damn.

    • @sparks4458
      @sparks4458 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Suppertimepuss2 they sound like no fun what so ever lol

    • @sh11death
      @sh11death 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Oh crap, I didn't even think of that. I was too wrapped up in the awesome description.

    • @dphalanx7465
      @dphalanx7465 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      According to most accounts, more than half the elephants perished in the Crossing of the Alps. So, to make him even _more_ boss (if such a thing was possible), Hannibal achieved his elephantine Shock & Awe with only a handful of pachyderms!

    • @florians9949
      @florians9949 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Elephants didn’t realy had any real impacts on the war as a whole. They died rather early in the conflict, with the battle fo the trebia river being the only major engagement they saw as most of them actually perished in the fight.

  • @Fatortu
    @Fatortu 10 ปีที่แล้ว +434

    I live in the Alps and I have seen where they crossed them. It is obvious they didn't know the place because they didn't take the easy way at all. There were low valleys going toward Italy but they sometimes decided to climb a 2000 meters high pass instead ^^
    What's cool though is that even 2000 years later, the local noble families would have ivory in their treasure that Gauls had stolen on dead elephants.

    • @blupolo2389
      @blupolo2389 9 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Like they ivory from these elephants ?

    • @Fatortu
      @Fatortu 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yes ! That's cool !

    • @Theimpracticalelf
      @Theimpracticalelf 9 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Fatortu That's awesome!

    • @Theimpracticalelf
      @Theimpracticalelf 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Fatortu That's awesome!

    • @Theimpracticalelf
      @Theimpracticalelf 9 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Fatortu That's awesome!

  • @lucaswalker6575
    @lucaswalker6575 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    "Aut Viam Invenium Aut Faciam." -Hannibal, when told it was impossible to cross the Alps at that time.
    "I will find a way, or I will make one."

  • @Vanalovan
    @Vanalovan 8 ปีที่แล้ว +532

    Sempronius Longus wouldn't happen to have been a relative of Bigus Dickus?

    • @karelvansteenhuyse3522
      @karelvansteenhuyse3522 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ha live of Brian fan, nice to see you

    • @6666Imperator
      @6666Imperator 6 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      in the german version his name was "Schwanzus Longus" so even closer :D

    • @weldonwin
      @weldonwin 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      We mock, but we all know he was of gweat help in a sudden cwisis

    • @criticuttam
      @criticuttam 6 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      How dare you compawe such a gweat woman with Sempwonius Longus?

    • @chazzwozzio
      @chazzwozzio 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      He has a wife you know

  • @extrahistory
    @extrahistory  11 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Well, JUST FOR YOU, we posted Part 3 this morning. :) Skip to about 10:53 in the video and you'll see the link.

    • @thejummyjum6207
      @thejummyjum6207 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks bro

    • @Annymausd
      @Annymausd 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This has been out for 10 years, thejummyjum6207

  • @GyroCannon
    @GyroCannon 9 ปีที่แล้ว +317

    It's too bad that the Punic Wars are largely ignored by world history books... I remember that there were almost no mention in my World History textbook... the only reason I knew about the main players of the war was from a project I had to do, where we had to make a short presentation on someone from history, ranging from recent people (like US presidents) to ancient people (Scipio Africanus for me)

    • @VintageLJ
      @VintageLJ 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Misael Ramirez I'm guessing Mexico? I mean, I'm surprised you didn't study the Spanish, since they are the most important part of Mexican history If I know correctly.

    • @Latetothegame
      @Latetothegame 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I remember briefly touching on it in like sixth or seventh grade. My teacher was nuts about Roman history though so it was probably a special case.

    • @RJtheMightyStang
      @RJtheMightyStang 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      GyroCannon we study
      Greece
      Egypt
      Rome
      Mesopotamia
      China (to emperor Quinn)
      India
      Nothing on America in my 6th grade

    • @darthbricksempire3606
      @darthbricksempire3606 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At my school, we only hear about our countries history (Denmark), and not about anything else. We almost never hear about any wars. Hannibal, Alexander, Attila, Ghengis Khan and many others have never been mentioned. Napoleon wws mentioned for like 10 seconds, but only about his coronation. In WWI and WWII, we only hear about what goes on in our country. In WWI, we were neutral, and we nearly didn’t hear about the war, but just how Denmark were doing. I have made presentations about Alexander, Hannibal, and Napoleon, but we have never heard of the first two... really annoying.

    • @StephanePare
      @StephanePare 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In the French part of Canada, when I was a kid our first history course was world history, then 2 years later Canadian history. We had a certain focus on wars, but never battles.
      We saw some fast forwarded version of this as part of our chapter on Rome, but with 9 months of 2 hours a week to cover human history worldwide from the australopitecus to modern hitory, we couldn't stop for details on anything but world war 1/2 :( There just wasn't enough time.

  • @Zeviander
    @Zeviander 11 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I'm quite amazed how epic this series of videos is. Using modern pictures and internet memes to portray an ancient event is unexpectedly awe-inspiring.

  • @wolvie90
    @wolvie90 8 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    I can't stop thinking Scipio achieved military might with the power of peanut butter.

    • @somedragonbastard
      @somedragonbastard 8 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      And then, Skippy-o filled empty PB jars with Greek Fire, and flung it at his opponents, and they died in a delicious, salty explosion.

  • @yayisnotasinger
    @yayisnotasinger 11 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I got chills when he said "I choose war" Just imaging what those 3 words caused

    • @apriliahussna4561
      @apriliahussna4561 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, just like cersei's "i choose violence"

  • @Annymausd
    @Annymausd 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Nobody has posted in a WHILE but I can’t believe what eventually became the main “extra” channel started with one sponsor. Wow

  • @romanshik
    @romanshik 9 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "It's one of the coldest days of a year and a sleet is pouring down..."
    Northern European bursts into laughter :D

  • @keiyakins
    @keiyakins 10 ปีที่แล้ว +209

    If you wrote this shit up as a fantasy novel, I don't think it would be considered believable.

    • @vfaulkon
      @vfaulkon 10 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      Truth is often stranger than fiction, n'est pas? :D

    • @stevenirizarry1304
      @stevenirizarry1304 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Replace the elephants with ice dragons and giants and have rome attain fire dragons and this shit would make a great fantasy novel

  • @IMVADER2
    @IMVADER2 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    wow, this war is getting awesome. I also love knowing lucas used it as the inspiration for the battle of Hoth in episode V

  • @joinmarch76
    @joinmarch76 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is probably my favorite of the second punic war saga, especially the description of what I like to call "Meet the Pachyderms". Fun fact, all of these elephants are from a now-extinct subspecies found in North Africa.

  • @cannonballjenkins2757
    @cannonballjenkins2757 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This def was a good start, and i love how it changed as it went on. These extra history vids were very fast, and the newer ones are slow, more dramatic, less "this happen, then this and this and this", and more "this happend because of this, then this could only happen because of that (the thing they explained 10 min prior to make a more dramatic pause) then leaves us on a cliff hanger

  • @LeonRauten
    @LeonRauten 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's alot of people who act very kindly towards their fans, but in my opinion, you guys here at extra credits are the greatest. You mentioned before you used to help fans with their homework... who else would do THAT?

  • @DoomedLich
    @DoomedLich 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It isn't cherishing the war, it's cherishing the narrative. They're presenting an interesting piece of history, give a frame of mind for a people long gone, and tell a story in the most full way possible.
    If we do not hear a story, we can't learn from it.

  • @meganpandalover8913
    @meganpandalover8913 10 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I know that a lot of students didn't learn this on history... That's why I love my teacher (I've had her 2 years in a row, she teaches multiple grades) she always digs super deep and doesn't even just tell us the story she makes us connect to the past. For example Hannibal one guy ( on a farm I believe? Excuse me if that's incorrect) was able to almost throw over Rome. Do you realize how insane and cool that is? Rome was kinda like the capital of the world SUPER powerful.... I think that people don't even realize that history contains actually people some times

  • @sevenaries
    @sevenaries 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is the second video of all time on this channel?? Epic

  • @wanaan
    @wanaan 11 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I know history class usually dig a good bit deeper than this (not high school history classes though), and I have to wonder...why does this cartoony style appeals to me soooooooooo much more than a typical class setting normally does. Maybe it's just so much quicker.

    • @aliciajazmin9568
      @aliciajazmin9568 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, I think I prefer this, instead of my High School Social Studies class. Social Studies in the setting it is at High School, just does not appeal to me. In middle school, when we got to learning about history in Social Studies class, it was awesome!

    • @GnarledStaff
      @GnarledStaff 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Savin Wangtal
      A good teacher capable of entertaining and holding attention can make a huge difference.
      I had an English teacher who captivated a class with a story about an ear rinse. He could also get the class to participate in philosophical debate.
      I learned more by listening to my History teacher talk to a few students who actually cared than by reading the book (well, maybe about the same) because the participants were interested in the conversation and that interest les to enthusiasm.

    • @materbater5596
      @materbater5596 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      you wont remember this type of teaching in the long run, and it is very simplistic so you'll actually watch the video

    • @StephanePare
      @StephanePare 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Maybe it's also because videos like this focus on the human element instead of a long list of facts and dates to remember and recite. The added knowledge that we can learn this at our pace and not be tested on how well we absorbed it also pushes off some of the pressure that would otherwise put us off in a class setting

  • @umartdagnir
    @umartdagnir 9 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    5:52 - what, wookiees riding elephants?

    • @momobone7305
      @momobone7305 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lmao Jawas aren't that tall but nice guess

    • @JoGyatto
      @JoGyatto 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Whatabout the droid attack on the wookies?

  • @yousefshahin2654
    @yousefshahin2654 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The 1st Punic war was the ancient version of WW1 and the 2nd Punic war was the ancient version of WW2

  • @Zerepzerreitug
    @Zerepzerreitug 10 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    the encounter between the romans and the elephants sounds like such a hollywood-esque moment it almost sounds fake XD

  • @notben5088
    @notben5088 6 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    When you see a bunch of Africans crossing the Alps on elephants
    *Pizza Time Stops*

    • @ah925
      @ah925 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They were Phoenician not African

    • @smoothcast6940
      @smoothcast6940 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ah925 a little mix of phoenicians and lots of north africans or "amazigh"

    • @lucamaddalena5925
      @lucamaddalena5925 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ah925 I mean, the romans weren’t romans they origined from Alba Longa

  • @Reddenfield7
    @Reddenfield7 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You guys should really keep doing these history episodes. Maybe I'm just a history nerd, but I find this incredibly fascinating.

  • @MDMAx
    @MDMAx 11 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm having goosebumps while watching this. This is AMAZING!

  • @Fred-ju1xs
    @Fred-ju1xs 8 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    maybe 10 years as an enlisted grunt is what OUR politicians need.

    • @IkeOkerekeNews
      @IkeOkerekeNews 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Fred P
      Not really.

    • @tobechukwuanyanwu6117
      @tobechukwuanyanwu6117 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ike Okereke actually Fred P just might be right

    • @nathalie_desrosiers
      @nathalie_desrosiers 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The coward we have now in charge paid is way out of Vietnam.

    • @Fred-ju1xs
      @Fred-ju1xs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Aditya Chavarkar No. All decisions should be made with the person making them having worn the shoes of the people she's about to sacrifice in a war.

    • @Fred-ju1xs
      @Fred-ju1xs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Aditya Chavarkar I don't see you disagreeing with my statement. Just a side step about bad examples.
      Yes there are people with proper training who still do a bad job.
      My argument is about the requirements.
      You didn't state why serving before leading is a bad requirement so I'm done here.

  • @CrazyCreeps
    @CrazyCreeps 8 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Hannibal: the only person who can crush a Roman army in the peak of Roman power.

    • @CrazyCreeps
      @CrazyCreeps 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Sorry if I was unclear: a long time before Rome's division and fall.

    • @kakhagvelesiani3877
      @kakhagvelesiani3877 8 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Lol , Rome wasn't near of it's peak. In fact , roman legions weren't that mighty forces that they become after Marian reforms. Roman forces led by Scipio in the end of Punic wars, were far more close to post-Marian army than in the beginning of war. Besides , Romans were repeatedly crushed be mere barbarians. Read about Cimbrian War and Battle of Arausio , where roman force as big as at Cannae was crushed by mere barbarians and that was when Rome was far more powerful than in the beginning of 2nd Punic War.

    • @zyaicob
      @zyaicob 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Unless you are the Mongols.

    • @ZoanBlade90
      @ZoanBlade90 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Suddenly his appearance in Drifters makes SO much sense.

    • @sharilshahed6106
      @sharilshahed6106 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zyaicob dont you mean Huns?

  • @caseygray2328
    @caseygray2328 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Hannibal: *growls*
    Rome: ahh Carthage control your general
    Carthage: he don't bite
    Hannibal: *starts yelling with Elephants*
    Rome: YES HE DO~

  • @dakivild3009
    @dakivild3009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Who’s revisiting after the oversimplified video

    • @chiefthomas5342
      @chiefthomas5342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      First seeing no revisiting yes

  • @MartenvanVelzen
    @MartenvanVelzen 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    This story, it's the first time in 22 years I've been interested in history. Thank you, feels great.

  • @brucegao5353
    @brucegao5353 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    10:11 The same effect when allied soldiers saw the german tiger tank and also maybe how some rebel troopers saw the AT-AT, this is huge psychological warfare.

  • @thelarchmage
    @thelarchmage 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is 150% awesome. Thank you guys so much for this epic series.

  • @Mistabanned
    @Mistabanned 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As a TW veteran, I applaud this. I already have Rome 2.

  • @rogerogue7226
    @rogerogue7226 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The sad thing that this video misses, is that by this point Hannibal has basicly already failed (end of the vid). His losses in the alps were so immense, the troops lost too well trained, the elephants and specialists too hard to come by, that his army never recovered, no matter how many wildling gauls he recruited. After the alps, he had no real chance of capturing the city of Rome, and while others might have surrendered through sheer attrittion or fear, Rome would not. Which made it a matter of waiting until he lost.

  • @NigzBlackman
    @NigzBlackman 10 ปีที่แล้ว +224

    This was pretty bad ass! why didn't I learn this in school?! =l

    • @Bobby_Corwen
      @Bobby_Corwen 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Natasel
      And now Summer Vacation is used to save money on AC, nice try buddy.

    • @Bobby_Corwen
      @Bobby_Corwen 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Natasel
      Hm... Not really, who am I to defend the school system? I'm almost in Grade 11 and the teachers union where I live refuses to work.
      Then again I do live in Canada...

    • @Frikgeek
      @Frikgeek 10 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Any decent highschool should've covered the Punic wars. I don't know where you live but most civilised countries cover global history and not just the history of their own country.

    • @Bobby_Corwen
      @Bobby_Corwen 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Frikgeek
      They were glossed over in sixth grade for me. It was essentially.
      "Les personnes à Rome ont fait des choses stupides aux personnes dans les autres pays et puis ils ont bataillé et Rome a gagné."
      So close auto-translate, so close.

    • @Bobby_Corwen
      @Bobby_Corwen 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Natasel
      Oh wait never mind...

  • @evilpez
    @evilpez 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a fantastic use of extra advertising budget. Round of applause to Creative Assembly for not only coming up with a creative idea to help sell their game through education, but knowing the group of people who could maximize their investment.

  • @miquelescribanoivars5049
    @miquelescribanoivars5049 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    2:40 Always Sunny in Philadelphia theme starts playing:
    "Hannibal Crosses The Alps".

  • @loganshockey4041
    @loganshockey4041 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8 years since Extra History began... one of my favorite series

  • @MagicAccent
    @MagicAccent 10 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Wow, I actually remember the battle of Trebia from the original Rome:Total War..!
    Yay I did History!

    • @elgostine
      @elgostine 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      i played that practice battle SO many times its not funny....

  • @drmaniac5763
    @drmaniac5763 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    This. This is how you make history fun for people. This is AWESOME.
    The bit where you talked about the elephants was just woah

  • @darthvader4994
    @darthvader4994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Rome had a population and resilience advantage over Carthage at the time and during the 2nd and 3rd wars, a money advantage too.

  • @liamcullen3035
    @liamcullen3035 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I... really want you guys to do more of these history episodes! It reminds me of crash course world history (awesome youtube series with John Green), which is one of the best educational experiences I've ever had! Love your animation and narration style!

  • @endlessxaura
    @endlessxaura 9 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Imagine a game where you play through the whole story on either side. It'd be pretty epic.

    • @exacrion3963
      @exacrion3963 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i'd love series, like game of throne or Rome on that, with multiple main characters, were we can see all the sides, during the 3 punic wars

    • @exacrion3963
      @exacrion3963 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ***** or focusing on one, their call, but that would be pretty damn epic

    • @samguy7654
      @samguy7654 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Screw a game, imma make a show out of this one day

    • @meme-hr8pb
      @meme-hr8pb 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In a fps?

  • @TzuCraft
    @TzuCraft 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Despite knowing literally everything about the topic from years of study (roman history is life long passion) I really enjoyed watching this. Excellent presentation, and having made videos myself I know it couldn't have been easy writing, performing and editing all that together so flawlessly! Awesome job.

  • @xxx_xbox_onex_xxx
    @xxx_xbox_onex_xxx 9 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I blame Wapole

    • @dagur7
      @dagur7 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      +Isaac Perez Now I'm not sure whether there was a comment that was later deleted or taken back, but I find the fact that you are right now calling yourself what you said a hilarious thing. It's like looking at a cat snarl at a mirror.

    • @mellon6804
      @mellon6804 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol

    • @coolmcq4133
      @coolmcq4133 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rick Fredrick its a running joke in extra history

  • @Wickertop
    @Wickertop 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    This would be a wonderful series. You guys obviously love history, and it still fits within the brand name - Extra credits referring to play tokens in old arcades also can refer to additional credits in schooling. Frankly, this is a great way to learn history, and if I taught a unit on Roman history at my school, I'd be showing them these.

  • @EmperorZephyr
    @EmperorZephyr 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If history lessons were like this, people would be a LOT more entertained...

    • @Jaguar_Delta
      @Jaguar_Delta 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not all history is entertaining

  • @mockingbird0901
    @mockingbird0901 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    The way you told us about that battle...... *goosebumps*
    Pure awesome!

  • @Lawh
    @Lawh 9 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Has anyone ever found any remains of this army in the alps?

    • @jmr2008jan
      @jmr2008jan 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      +Lawrence H I was wondering the same thing. Would be a interesting field trip. Though I doubt anything would have been left after very long considering the weather of the Alps.

    • @fawwazn.1244
      @fawwazn.1244 9 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      +jmr2008jan But the snow and how low temperature it was could preserved the trail of corpse they left behind far beneath the surface..
      And we could just follow Hannibal Trails through the alps and dig, we might have found it..

    • @PSPaaskynen
      @PSPaaskynen 8 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      +Lawrence H Archeologists have been searching along the two most likely routes and have found proof of large numbers of horses passing at a time that fits the second Punic war, but nothing conclusive yet.

    • @Lawh
      @Lawh 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      PSPaaskynen Source please :)
      Tai, lähde kiitos, Pääskynen :)

    • @Lawh
      @Lawh 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks bud

  • @CGruenert
    @CGruenert 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know that this is a marketing ploy in support of a sub-standard game. I'm still glad that they are doing this. This is an excellent use of entertainment media for the purpose of education and the Extra Credits gang should be ridiculously proud of themselves for undertaking this project. I'm going to recommend this to a friend of mine that teaches history, maybe he can do something similar for his class.

  • @SamaritanPrime
    @SamaritanPrime 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That bro fist had to be the most toga-wettingest bro fist ever from Rome's perspective.

  • @dezomania
    @dezomania 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    No one yet had hand out a presentation as interesting as Daniel Floyd. He is the reason why extra credits is such an interesting show.

  • @Starwarsdude8221991
    @Starwarsdude8221991 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Oh i am loving this history lesson

  • @manguy01
    @manguy01 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is THE BEST, Extra Credits. Especially because I spent hours and hours playing the original Rome Total War. So, all these tactics and the geography are familiar to me.
    And also, this all leads up to my favorite battle ever! I never knew the whole history behind it. I just knew that they unexpectedly crossed the Alps.

  • @RealBigBangVideos
    @RealBigBangVideos 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    More like this history stuff guys! You are awesome! I also watched those Sengoku Jidai videos you made... So fun to watch!

  • @marktaylor1139
    @marktaylor1139 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    An excellent and accessible summary of the basic narrative of the initial stages of the Second Punic War. Well researched, well explained with solid background when needed.

  • @tamerofhorses2200
    @tamerofhorses2200 8 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    You should re-do this series and delve deeper into the wars themselves. Especially the first punic war and the life of Hamilcar.

    • @luccagiovani
      @luccagiovani 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thy would need money for this.

    • @MiloDelMal
      @MiloDelMal 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would support a kickstarter for it.

    • @navacamal36
      @navacamal36 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      support them on patreon

    • @antares9601
      @antares9601 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would love to have some more in depth stuff by the Extra Crew.
      But I would rather have a lot of surface things covered with great references for me to continue deeper.

    • @kevinsullivan3448
      @kevinsullivan3448 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what Hardcore History is for. Nearly 4 hours on the Punic Wars in 3 episodes.

  • @Peterdeskater100
    @Peterdeskater100 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant! Can't wait for next show... Already know the general story, but hearing it more detailled is really nice. These videos are more awesome than any videos about games themselves!

  • @quinnquintillus2925
    @quinnquintillus2925 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    great video, i love history, especially roman history.

  • @cristo3214
    @cristo3214 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    this is really a good idea for publicity, it makes me want to play Total War! Seriously it's much more effective than a billboard because it's directed towards a caring audience. PLEASE do more of these to promote games!

  • @freedomordeath89
    @freedomordeath89 11 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    the army was actually around 35.000 strong and the losses in the Alps were around 10.000...90.000 was the exaggerated number that the roman historians wrote in their books :-)

    • @cockiesun
      @cockiesun 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      But where then do you get the other number from?

    • @freedomordeath89
      @freedomordeath89 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      studies...calculations...number of troops in the registers, castra (camps), garrisons, how many troops could they supply ...i don't know 100% im not an historian...btw its well known that the numbers are always inflated or decreased..in this case roman historians wanted to make hannibal look stronger to justify his success and make the early roman losses less disgraceful...but dont take my numbers as truth either...i don't know where i took the 35.000 from...i have aso other numbers that said that hannibal had indeed 90.000soldiers until he left spain, after he crossed the Pyrenees he had 50.000 couse he sent some back so maybe 35.000 its the number of soldiers that survived the crossing of the alps?

  • @HeartlessDH
    @HeartlessDH 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep doing that you guys do, I absolutely love everything about this channel, the topics, the design, the music, everything! I hope you get paid for doing this stuff cuz it is worth it

  • @saurabhjaiswal2700
    @saurabhjaiswal2700 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    They made it cool 10 years ago and oversimplfied made it even cooler.

  • @AMGitsKriss
    @AMGitsKriss 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    This needs to be a regular, or semi-regular, thing. You guys have me on the edge of my seat every time.

  • @ponyfairyVania
    @ponyfairyVania 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So it was basically Comes Bunker Hill. If you don't know what I'm talking about, I'll explain. At the beginng of the American Revolution, there was a fight between the British and the Americans for a hill called Bunker Hill, then called Breeds Hill. This was important because, when you've got a fort on a hill, you've basically got an advantage over other, literally. I can't go into detail, but the gist of it was that the British won the hill, but at a cost. The only reason they won was cause the Americans ran out of powder and shot. This was the point in the war when the British figured out that they weren't fighting farmers.

    • @AndrewMeyer
      @AndrewMeyer 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe they'll do an episode on that in the future.

  • @celestialangel666
    @celestialangel666 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would use this if I had a classroom. I wish everyone who did historical battles gave you guys extra money for this, the whole thing is just so awesome!

  • @the_major
    @the_major 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hate to be the sobering history nerd here, but the Romans had fought against elephants before (in greater numbers I might add) and were actually fairly adept at it. No doubt, those men would have been terrified but it wasn't a completely unknown thing for them. Many of their own grandfathers may have even recalled their experiences fighting against them..
    For more info: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhic_War

    • @pureblackeagle
      @pureblackeagle 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      themajor Heard about that on the History of Rome podcast. They did some AT-AT shit and tripped them with ropes!

    • @the_major
      @the_major 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is the history of Rome podcast any good? I've heard about it but never tried it.

    • @pureblackeagle
      @pureblackeagle 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      themajor
      It's actually really good! Hearing the ancient stories of Rome has been fascinating. They're only 15 to 20 minutes each, and he goes into good detail very comprehensively. I now understand how Roman government worked.

  • @choirboyzcutleryoutdoors
    @choirboyzcutleryoutdoors 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this channel!!

  • @50Calabyte
    @50Calabyte 11 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I don't know if you have heard of it, but History Channel did this dramatic series called Vikings based off a real viking. I was thinking that this war sounds like it'd make a great TV show.

    • @50Calabyte
      @50Calabyte 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      *****
      Perhaps, but the production values on Vikings was really good, so I think they could afford it.

    • @ericshw171
      @ericshw171 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      50Calabyte Give it to HBO or some other studio they'll do it better.

    • @Necroskull388
      @Necroskull388 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *****
      Vin Diesel is working on a passion project about Hannibal, actually.

    • @redbastard9711
      @redbastard9711 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      MonkeyMonastary No other studio. Only HBO.

    • @patrickcummins79
      @patrickcummins79 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They made a pretty damn good TV movie off of this back on 2005 or 06. Was Called Hannibal Rome's Worst Enemy/Nightmare or something. It has the prince from Syriana(also played the doctor from Deep Space Nine) as Hannibal, guy's named Alexander Siddig, he is a pretty good actor. Check it out, not bad for a TV movie! It is uploaded onto youtube too, can download it with a quick google search of youtube to mp4

  • @nathanielmarks4872
    @nathanielmarks4872 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think it's the most epic thing this channel had ever said 2:17

  • @Legendaryknight2
    @Legendaryknight2 10 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Hang on, if men sometimes had to crawl, how did they crossed with elephants?

    • @calebswinson2823
      @calebswinson2823 10 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      Very carefully.

    • @Legendaryknight2
      @Legendaryknight2 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Wasn't hoping to the mathematicians answer to pop out here.

    • @tacoisfried750
      @tacoisfried750 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      By breaking the mountain down with sour wine, fire, and brawn. true story!

    • @exacrion3963
      @exacrion3963 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      RealBigBangVideos Actually they did pass, with a handful of elephants, so they didn't had to crawl

    • @Beautyfreax1
      @Beautyfreax1 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      They put them on rafts and tricked them into thinking they were on still land so they wouldn't freak out and die drowning in the water

  • @gladrial89
    @gladrial89 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guys this is really well done. I love how you blend story telling with historical facts so we can get a better picture of what the Romans and the Carthaginians went through. I'm with the majority of commenters here and think you should do a second channel just on history. I'd subscribe to it. :)

  • @jamesclarke5133
    @jamesclarke5133 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    My life would be complete if you guys did Thermopylae and the 300 spartans.

    • @6666Imperator
      @6666Imperator 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      except it were not 300. But I would also love to hear about that one person running all the way from Marathon to Athen to tell them "they are here" just to fall dead on the floor straight after

  • @Archgamer
    @Archgamer 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is brilliant, thank you Extra Credits and thank you CA for actually funding this, you are awesome.

  • @slickbonebraker6689
    @slickbonebraker6689 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    due teach my history class you make sound intestine and you don't make thing boring

  • @8393Robertrex
    @8393Robertrex 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how he thinks this war is one of the *lesser* known wars from people who love roman history
    Like. The bad blood between scipios family and hamilcars was the game of thrones for a 15 year old me. I read EVERYTHING i could find about these wars. And it makes me endlessly happy to see this channel covering. Im pretty much just re-reading stories ive read a thousands times but its just as sweet the 1001st time

  • @milesbeler3974
    @milesbeler3974 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "God dammit Atticus, why did that dumbass jsut wake us up? Didn't Afrikanus say we could sleep in?" "Oh, I guess he wanted us to see these gray war-demons that are charging through our testuedo?"

  • @Ravenforce3
    @Ravenforce3 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Solid information, man. Looking forward to the rest of the series. This makes me miss the days when the History channel actually showed programs about, you know...HISTORY.

  • @kingofthebungle8612
    @kingofthebungle8612 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was watching this while playing civ 5 as rome when I got a great general "Hamilcar Barca"

  • @MrGuyJacks
    @MrGuyJacks 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love history but I can't get myself to watch boring hours long history documentaries, you just solved one of the biggest issues I was facing with my free time hobby, thank you. :)

  • @croicullagh7530
    @croicullagh7530 9 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    4:24 Fucking SPOILER WARNING!!!

  • @lidiakedra1831
    @lidiakedra1831 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, guys, this is awesome what you are doing. I'm really inspired and I love history even more, thanks to you. I know English pretty well, but polish subtitles are really helpful for me, I'm so grateful for your work. History is fascinating with you.

  • @BackTwoTheBasics
    @BackTwoTheBasics 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The Romans could have sent aid to saguntum but didnt. The reason is because they like to wage "just wars" and thus by Hannibal killing off Saguntum, the Romans had a reasons to later fight Carthage

    • @materbater5596
      @materbater5596 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the reason they didnt send aid is because they wanted to avoid the war as much as possible, sending multiple embassies to spain to try and hault the siege. if they sent aid, they would start a war with carthage, and have to pull troops back from illyria and their other wars

  • @rickkrout1804
    @rickkrout1804 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great. The Second Punic War is hands down my favorite era in history.

  • @sub-nautical_chill4379
    @sub-nautical_chill4379 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What started this Amazing series
    If this series didn’t exist, there is a lot of things I wouldn’t know if this didn’t exist

  • @christophedlauer1443
    @christophedlauer1443 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    MOAR ! This series is so damn gripping, I just can't wait for the next episode ! Propably going to search some of those mentioned podcasts until I get my next fix...

  • @taitbillings3818
    @taitbillings3818 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It should be noted that the Second Punic War was not the first time the Romans encountered war elephants. Pyrrhus of Epirus used them in at least three battles during the Pyrrhic Wars, after which the Romans got good at killing them. The Carthaginians also used elephants in the first Punic War, although never conclusively because the Romans knew how to scare them and make them ineffective. And most of Hannibal's elephants died crossing the Alps

    • @shacklock01
      @shacklock01 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      got there ahead of me, only real fault i spotted in an otherwise accurate video.

  • @Harclave
    @Harclave 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would love to see more history lessons from you guys. Seriously, this is better than the history channel!

  • @wilsthelimit
    @wilsthelimit 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    8:17 Do my eye bequeath me! Is that Transformers Prime!?

    • @MerkhVision
      @MerkhVision 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think u mean decieve, not bequeath...lol

  • @Dulcedecorumest
    @Dulcedecorumest 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    These illustrations are EVERYTHING 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾