A beautiful piece out of the ordinary.. Very expressive. A good number of different themes. Great piece. Thumbs up for Bates and of course for Trifonov!
Both unlimited in there Arts. Composer and Pianist. Thanks to Mason Bates for this great Concerto dedicated to Daniil Trifonov !❤ How much he loves to play it is audible !❤ The audiences at the Concert Halls are delighted to hear something New.
What a strange confusing piece. Genuinely beautiful in places, sparkling and witty. And then moments of real shmultzy music that sounds like it's streaight out of a Hallmark romantic movie from the early 1990s. But still enjoyable...
Last week Trifonov was supposed to play it at the BBC Proms in London, but it was cancelled as he is the only person who knows it and apparently couldn't get a visa to enter the UK. Let's forget the politics and ask why no other pianist has bothered to learn this fabulous work since it was premiered in January 2022. Plenty of time I'd say. No, these pianists just want to continue to take our money for playing works they have played, and we have heard, hundreds of times. Utterly disgraceful.
Can You tell me please why Daniil Trifonov did Not get a Visa? And why He should need it ? He is living , and having his Family in New York . This Mason Bates is Music of absolute Beauty, and He is playing it just divine !@@DavidA-ps1qr
Элиза, это пото му,что многие страны Западной Европы до сих пор не определись,кто их друг,а кто враг.Хочется усидть на двух стульях.А то,что музыка и музыканты,еслиони настоящие,вне политики,им не понять. Ирина . Но зато твоя любимая Италия предос тавила им площадку в собственной столице.Все замечательно,Элиза. Ирина.💕💕💕💕💕elisabethbaumer-sn8go
Yesterday I attended the Spanish premiere with the Orquesta Nacional de España, Heras-Casado and Trifonov. I believe it was the best premiere I have attended ever, the work is simply amazing, it touched me deep inside, I was really moved. I found the first movement especially emotive. And I would say the rest of the Auditorium agreed with me, after the end people showed clearly they had enjoyed it, something quite unusual for a work premiered earlier this year. Even if Stravinsky's Rite of Spring was performed afterwards, this was the most applauded work in the matinee by far. Thanks to the composer, Trifonov, the OCNE and Heras-Casado for such a especial event. I would have attended all three performances for this piece alone.
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Last week Trifonov was supposed to play it at the BBC Proms in London, but it was cancelled as he is the only person who knows it and apparently couldn't get a visa to enter the UK. Let's forget the politics and ask why no other pianist has bothered to learn this fabulous work since it was premiered in January 2022. Plenty of time I'd say. No, these pianists just want to continue to take our money for playing works they have played, and we have heard, hundreds of times. Utterly disgraceful.
Благодарю за Радость , благодарю за Щедрость, благодарю за Любовь к Музыке......"...счастье может звучать?...- конечно...! - Послушайте! Вдохновение фонтанирует- купайтесь! Живите в Радости и Счастье просто будьте и дарите друг другу радость, что может быть прекраснее
Last week Trifonov was supposed to play it at the BBC Proms in London, but it was cancelled as he is the only person who knows it and apparently couldn't get a visa to enter the UK. Let's forget the politics and ask why no other pianist has bothered to learn this fabulous work since it was premiered in January 2022. Plenty of time I'd say. No, these pianists just want to continue to take our money for playing works they have played, and we have heard, hundreds of times. Utterly disgraceful.
It won't become a repertoire staple unless trump types take ver theconcert hall . Easl Listening for peeps that don't value honesty or contemporary sensation . Barber nor Menotti was ever this corny,washed out ,facile and throw back .;there is taste in places but not enough to save it. I predict he will be at least 80 before he reaches a finer idea of what can happen in music !
Musik vom Feinsten aus neuerer Zeit ! Hoehre es zum ersten Mal, und bin entzueckt von der Komposition, und wie immer von Daniil Trifonov's unvergleichlichem Spiel ! Eine Hommage fuer den Komponisten - wie immer. Min. 9.07,Part 2 ❤❤❤
Trifonov riesce a rendere accettabile anche una partitura molto modesta, che sicuramente acquista lustro grazie al talento russo. Spero che almeno l'abbiano pagato bene. Per me, musica da film. Priva di profondità e di qualsiasi spessore emotivo. Rispecchia la povertà culturale dell'ambiente che lo ha prodotto.
Avec tout mon respect, je ne suis pas d'accord. C'est un concerto joyeux et plein d'enthousiasme, et je serais tout à fait heureux si davantage de BO de films y ressemblaient !
@@TheophileBbn Я так рада, что Вам понравился этот концерт, и полностью с Вами согласна. Музыка чудесна, а исполнение Даниила гениально! Санкт-Петербург.
honestly, it's nothing crazy. Third movement kinda resemble Stravinsky Firebird's Dance of the Roi Kastchei, and apart from that it would definetly fit a movie soundtrack, but has not the depth and the theme structuration of a Concerto. Not even considering that this harmony it's amusing to hear, but probably a little bit boring in these days.
I can hear that Stravinsky reference from the firebird infernal dance too...mix in Oldfield's Tubular Bells, and you have the syrupy version of what those two works would sound like together!!!
Another composer who pretends that the 20th and the early part of the 21st century never existed. Our species lives in constant denial of reality. It breaks my heart. Music for people who don’t like music.
It's most certainly is not. There may be more truly great composers now, then at any time in history. (Check the Wergo and Kairos labels.) Bates seems to be a composer that orchestras are comfortable with: orchestras who would rather play nothing of contemporary music, but can accept (and feel their musically-ignorant audience can tolerate). @@jm960
@@hugomirandamusic because it is easy listening. But the thing people really lost was the sense of logic in music, at its most pronounced in J F Haydn. Even Scriabin just makes sonatas by joining motives together and changing the key.😊
Let's see: here are some 20th and 21st century-composers who compose music you believe to be in denial of reality: Samuel Barber, John Adams, Mason Bates, Nico Muhly, William Bolcom, Jennifer Higdon, Gorecki, Arvo Pårt...the list goes on and on. I'm sorry your heart is broken, but you are wrong when you say this is "music for people who don't like music." You really mean, "music for people who don't like the music I like."
@@composerguy100 barber is an example of someone whose music is bad not because it's not atonal but because it's meretricious. And that goes for some others too, like gorecki and part.
If Rautavarra had been American and more desperate to be liked This is what he would have sounded like the jazz statements with wind flurries is supreme bad taste .The 2nd mov is scarely any better and the finale is just gross ,cheap, easy please the knownothing s,not feel anything/ no depth crowd ! Each subject each movement childish ,speaking not purely (though Trifonov instills it with honesty and heart).He makes it better than it is the conductor can't help with all the bithdaycake bursts . A lot of young American composers will thing Hallmark card music is legitimate : naively just have your happy career and be forgotten .
Full of brightness and a type of Light but it feels immature and as if it's trying to please3rd mov. shows how unremarkable and ordinary allthis .Ligeti rhythms this ain't perhaps Africanus Light I'll call it -though I won't be listening again.I'm really against over commercialism-but the guy wants r has a record contract so he fits in gawd bless him.He grew up in the country so maybe he is being honest Hanson ain't here nor is Sessions more like Havhaness which I can't stand -maybe when I'm older and don't want musc to bother me.Pleasing !!!Yukk- THE ONLY SIN I KNOW!!!...Wow Dika Newlin one of the teachers of Bates studied with Schonberg at end oF his life and she was also a punk singer and now we have middle of theroad Bates. It doesn't have to be Ustvolskaya or ugly but it Should Be Now and include the ugliness of NOW! tHE 3RD MOVEMENT SOUNDS LIKE TENTHOUSANDother young American composers so It will Be Forgotten .Thankgod for Tia Leon,Higdon and maybe MissyMazzoliSo I won't accept this and it justdoesn't interest ME.9 minute long 1st movement in a regular sized piece Is Short &was a welcomesurprise to lead into the 2nd mov.which felt like it was about something not new just honest..2nd movement still too comforting but more interesting than the 1st mov.not Jonathan Harvey but communicative and Simple .This could play on any easllistening channel -immature to my mind. So good to hear Trifonov in something contemporary -but I don't agree with this choice ;it certainly won't offend anyone (I can't believe that's all he wanted after his highly emotional and depth in Schumann and others .This is a letdown for me & sadly it's the most ordinary ,forgettable experience one can imagine .What is it saying "? The 2nd mov. has so much more realness but we've still heard these kind of ruminations too often and almost everywhere else . How did Bates become supported and who did he study with I'll have to find out. Expression is artefact and an expression of political/economic relations as Andriessen told us long ago . This feels like attractive ,mindless furniture in a livingroom or even music one would hear after a Disney movie as one walks out during the credits .Matthias Pintscher could teach Bates a thing or two about brass .I won't be looking for any other Bate's music . I wonder if he has tried his hand at Boulez or Messiaen ?I'm sure he hasa curious mind . Bates is an easy listen unlike most serious composers now writing : no new ideas or uncomfortable ideas hear ;sounds like radio jazz . Not my kinda thing . Wuorinen's first piano concerto anyone or Bolcolm's lovely American masterpiece ? Where is Higdon's piano concerto the violin got alleys and ears attention unlike Wynton Marsalis truly great violin concerto but dat will change !
A great concerto. Mason Bates has unlimited musical talent. Here's another example of it. A massive "thumbs up" from me.
A beautiful piece out of the ordinary.. Very expressive. A good number of different themes. Great piece. Thumbs up for Bates and of course for Trifonov!
What an incredible piece! Emotional evocative expressive. I loved it! Played at the CSO yesterday!!!
Both unlimited in there Arts. Composer and Pianist. Thanks to Mason Bates for this great Concerto dedicated to Daniil Trifonov !❤
How much he loves to play it is audible !❤
The audiences at the Concert Halls are delighted to hear something New.
What a strange confusing piece. Genuinely beautiful in places, sparkling and witty. And then moments of real shmultzy music that sounds like it's streaight out of a Hallmark romantic movie from the early 1990s. But still enjoyable...
All of it is Hallmark ! You arae the only one with some taste in this room who sees wut iz wut !
Love this concerto. It’s brilliantly scored
Thank you I have been very keen to hear this
Last week Trifonov was supposed to play it at the BBC Proms in London, but it was cancelled as he is the only person who knows it and apparently couldn't get a visa to enter the UK.
Let's forget the politics and ask why no other pianist has bothered to learn this fabulous work since it was premiered in January 2022. Plenty of time I'd say. No, these pianists just want to continue to take our money for playing works they have played, and we have heard, hundreds of times. Utterly disgraceful.
Can You tell me please why Daniil Trifonov did Not get a Visa? And why He should need it ? He is living , and having his Family in New York .
This Mason Bates is Music of absolute Beauty, and He is playing it just divine !@@DavidA-ps1qr
Элиза, это пото му,что многие страны Западной Европы до сих пор не определись,кто их друг,а кто враг.Хочется усидть на двух стульях.А то,что музыка и музыканты,еслиони настоящие,вне политики,им не понять. Ирина . Но зато твоя любимая Италия предос тавила им площадку в собственной столице.Все замечательно,Элиза. Ирина.💕💕💕💕💕elisabethbaumer-sn8go
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Yesterday I attended the Spanish premiere with the Orquesta Nacional de España, Heras-Casado and Trifonov. I believe it was the best premiere I have attended ever, the work is simply amazing, it touched me deep inside, I was really moved. I found the first movement especially emotive.
And I would say the rest of the Auditorium agreed with me, after the end people showed clearly they had enjoyed it, something quite unusual for a work premiered earlier this year. Even if Stravinsky's Rite of Spring was performed afterwards, this was the most applauded work in the matinee by far.
Thanks to the composer, Trifonov, the OCNE and Heras-Casado for such a especial event. I would have attended all three performances for this piece alone.
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Last week Trifonov was supposed to play it at the BBC Proms in London, but it was cancelled as he is the only person who knows it and apparently couldn't get a visa to enter the UK.
Let's forget the politics and ask why no other pianist has bothered to learn this fabulous work since it was premiered in January 2022. Plenty of time I'd say. No, these pianists just want to continue to take our money for playing works they have played, and we have heard, hundreds of times. Utterly disgraceful.
Can You Tell my please why He should need a Visa? He is living, and having His Family in New York .wath happend ?@@DavidA-ps1qr
Fabuleux !! Quelle musique !!👍🙏🙏
Дорогой Данилушка! Благодарю Создателя за Ваш благословенный талан! За глоток свежего воздуха и движение Жизни! Любовь умножается и Мир преображается
Благодарю за Радость , благодарю за Щедрость, благодарю за Любовь к Музыке......"...счастье может звучать?...- конечно...! - Послушайте!
Вдохновение фонтанирует- купайтесь! Живите в Радости и Счастье просто будьте и дарите друг другу радость, что может быть прекраснее
Thx
It's obvious from this performance that Mr. Bates is a master.
A brilliant modern concerto, wow!
Wuts moderne bout ' dis ?
@@MrInterestingthings komponiert 2020 ! Sollten Sie doch wissen, da Sie sich doch als "Kenner der Musik Szene " glauben profilieren zu müssen !
This is pretty good. I don't recall ever hearing it before.
Last week Trifonov was supposed to play it at the BBC Proms in London, but it was cancelled as he is the only person who knows it and apparently couldn't get a visa to enter the UK.
Let's forget the politics and ask why no other pianist has bothered to learn this fabulous work since it was premiered in January 2022. Plenty of time I'd say. No, these pianists just want to continue to take our money for playing works they have played, and we have heard, hundreds of times. Utterly disgraceful.
It won't become a repertoire staple unless trump types take ver theconcert hall . Easl Listening for peeps that don't value honesty or contemporary sensation . Barber nor Menotti was ever this corny,washed out ,facile and throw back .;there is taste in places but not enough to save it. I predict he will be at least 80 before he reaches a finer idea of what can happen in music !
Musik vom Feinsten aus neuerer Zeit ! Hoehre es zum ersten Mal, und bin entzueckt von der Komposition, und wie immer von Daniil Trifonov's unvergleichlichem Spiel !
Eine Hommage fuer den Komponisten - wie immer.
Min. 9.07,Part 2 ❤❤❤
Děkuji Vám 🤍🕊️ Daniil Trifonov 🌷
Where do l find notes please, PlEASE!!!!!?!??
Omg, is there another name for this piece? I can’t find it on iTunes nor Spotify.
More interesting than a composition by Philip Glass.
Not hard
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Oh please!! It starts with a horribe copy of Bartok "Bluebeard Castle" and then it falls down to hell level
sembra la colonna sonora di un film americano! mah!
Trifonov riesce a rendere accettabile anche una partitura molto modesta, che sicuramente acquista lustro grazie al talento russo.
Spero che almeno l'abbiano pagato bene.
Per me, musica da film. Priva di profondità e di qualsiasi spessore emotivo. Rispecchia la povertà culturale dell'ambiente che lo ha prodotto.
Avec tout mon respect, je ne suis pas d'accord. C'est un concerto joyeux et plein d'enthousiasme, et je serais tout à fait heureux si davantage de BO de films y ressemblaient !
@@TheophileBbn яя
@@TheophileBbn Я так рада, что Вам понравился этот концерт, и полностью с Вами согласна. Музыка чудесна, а исполнение Даниила гениально! Санкт-Петербург.
Уберите , пожалуйста, это ошибка,а я не знаю, как это сделать.
@@TheophileBbn
Sei fortunato. Ti accontenti di poco
honestly, it's nothing crazy. Third movement kinda resemble Stravinsky Firebird's Dance of the Roi Kastchei, and apart from that it would definetly fit a movie soundtrack, but has not the depth and the theme structuration of a Concerto. Not even considering that this harmony it's amusing to hear, but probably a little bit boring in these days.
I can hear that Stravinsky reference from the firebird infernal dance too...mix in Oldfield's Tubular Bells, and you have the syrupy version of what those two works would sound like together!!!
Another composer who pretends that the 20th and the early part of the 21st century never existed. Our species lives in constant denial of reality. It breaks my heart. Music for people who don’t like music.
It's most certainly is not. There may be more truly great composers now, then at any time in history. (Check the Wergo and Kairos labels.) Bates seems to be a composer that orchestras are comfortable with: orchestras who would rather play nothing of contemporary music, but can accept (and feel their musically-ignorant audience can tolerate). @@jm960
can you elaborate on your response? Just want to fully know what you meant...
@@hugomirandamusic because it is easy listening. But the thing people really lost was the sense of logic in music, at its most pronounced in J F Haydn. Even Scriabin just makes sonatas by joining motives together and changing the key.😊
Let's see: here are some 20th and 21st century-composers who compose music you believe to be in denial of reality: Samuel Barber, John Adams, Mason Bates, Nico Muhly, William Bolcom, Jennifer Higdon, Gorecki, Arvo Pårt...the list goes on and on. I'm sorry your heart is broken, but you are wrong when you say this is "music for people who don't like music." You really mean, "music for people who don't like the music I like."
@@composerguy100 barber is an example of someone whose music is bad not because it's not atonal but because it's meretricious. And that goes for some others too, like gorecki and part.
If Rautavarra had been American and more desperate to be liked This is what he would have sounded like the jazz statements with wind flurries is supreme bad taste .The 2nd mov is scarely any better and the finale is just gross ,cheap, easy please the knownothing s,not feel anything/ no depth crowd ! Each subject each movement childish ,speaking not purely (though Trifonov instills it with honesty and heart).He makes it better than it is the conductor can't help with all the bithdaycake bursts . A lot of young American composers will thing Hallmark card music is legitimate : naively just have your happy career and be forgotten .
Beautiful , cheesy and conformistic piece of music. Made just to please everyone.
Full of brightness and a type of Light but it feels immature and as if it's trying to please3rd mov. shows how unremarkable and ordinary allthis .Ligeti rhythms this ain't perhaps Africanus Light I'll call it -though I won't be listening again.I'm really against over commercialism-but the guy wants r has a record contract so he fits in gawd bless him.He grew up in the country so maybe he is being honest Hanson ain't here nor is Sessions more like Havhaness which I can't stand -maybe when I'm older and don't want musc to bother me.Pleasing !!!Yukk- THE ONLY SIN I KNOW!!!...Wow Dika Newlin one of the teachers of Bates studied with Schonberg at end oF his life and she was also a punk singer and now we have middle of theroad Bates. It doesn't have to be Ustvolskaya or ugly but it Should Be Now and include the ugliness of NOW! tHE 3RD MOVEMENT SOUNDS LIKE TENTHOUSANDother young American composers so It will Be Forgotten .Thankgod for Tia Leon,Higdon and maybe MissyMazzoliSo I won't accept this and it justdoesn't interest ME.9 minute long 1st movement in a regular sized piece Is Short &was a welcomesurprise to lead into the 2nd mov.which felt like it was about something not new just honest..2nd movement still too comforting but more interesting than the 1st mov.not Jonathan Harvey but communicative and Simple .This could play on any easllistening channel -immature to my mind. So good to hear Trifonov in something contemporary -but I don't agree with this choice ;it certainly won't offend anyone (I can't believe that's all he wanted after his highly emotional and depth in Schumann and others .This is a letdown for me & sadly it's the most ordinary ,forgettable experience one can imagine .What is it saying "? The 2nd mov. has so much more realness but we've still heard these kind of ruminations too often and almost everywhere else . How did Bates become supported and who did he study with I'll have to find out. Expression is artefact and an expression of political/economic relations as Andriessen told us long ago . This feels like attractive ,mindless furniture in a livingroom or even music one would hear after a Disney movie as one walks out during the credits .Matthias Pintscher could teach Bates a thing or two about brass .I won't be looking for any other Bate's music . I wonder if he has tried his hand at Boulez or Messiaen ?I'm sure he hasa curious mind . Bates is an easy listen unlike most serious composers now writing : no new ideas or uncomfortable ideas hear ;sounds like radio jazz . Not my kinda thing . Wuorinen's first piano concerto anyone or Bolcolm's lovely American masterpiece ? Where is Higdon's piano concerto the violin got alleys and ears attention unlike Wynton Marsalis truly great violin concerto but dat will change !