Brian Pillman Jr did a similar thing to AJ a while back against Malakai Black. I still can't work out if his springboard botch was intentional (his foot placement was near identical to the Great Sasuke's example in this video) but he did play up big confidence issues for the next couple of matches. Was a nice touch for somebody still green.
Another instance; Billy Kidman botching a shooting star press on Chavo Guerrero (breaking Chavo's nose with his knee in the process) and slowly turning him heel on Paul London because Kidman didn't want to hit the shooting star press again, even thought London wanted him to do it. Even though Chavo was never meant to get injured in the first place and it was all an accident, Kidman ran with it and made it into a storyline after the fact.
Also a very funny moment in Bullet Club vs Top Rope angle on Chikara show, if I remember correctly, they even gave the top tope a Triple Superkick at some point
The premise that as a audience we have a say on who main events sounds good and maybe be somewhat true with most of the promotions, but I’d argue not with WWE. They have to be forced into it. There’s just too many examples of the WWE ignoring what we the fans want to see.
The Bucks get a lotta heat for just doing moves , and not selling . Matt sold his back like crazy! For months ! Maybe cause it was really hurt . IDK. I think their shtick is pretty stale now , but back in the day , PWG stuff was great at the time ! I think (and maybe its just me) fans are now ready for more realistic wrestling that makes more sense again . Nothing wrong with a few matches on a show doing crazy highspots , i love that too . But The overall tone should be serious promos , serious wrestling . Brian , Punk , MJF and FTR for example have done that great s of late . Its no Crockett 80s or AJPW early 90s , but a step in the right direction
Yuup. Besides the fact that he's trying to get the young bucks loved. Dude needs to understand the bucks aren't everyone's cup of tea. I'm personally an FTR fan but the bucks are amazing pro wrestlers. If no one can see that then that's also fine
A list actually using the phrase "totally intentional botches" featuring at least one slam dunk "It was 100% totally a botch, but..." WhatCulture everybody
I watch AEW more than WWE nowadays, but "sports-centric"? Really? Don't they have a dinosaur for a tag team champ right now? And a millennial character that throws lazy shin kicks every single match? And an alien lady?
This has nothing to do with the video but I got an ad for the jeep grand wagoneer. Oh boy is that a terrible name. Talk about a botch am I right? *high five*
The amount of swearing in this video really jarred for me. Don’t get me wrong I love to fucking swear. But when you know you have to bleep it out why write it into the script? Weird.
When it comes to Corny's hate for The Bucks, I am of the firm belief he hates them because he couldn't do anything with them while he was in charge of ROH.
The young Bucks are just flippy doodles there's not really a lot substance, I've seen and have a good matches with people who can have good matches when they're in there with somebody who's s*** as they are you have to really like your flippy doodles to be entertained. 🙂🙃🙂 emoticon flipy doodle when you've got guys who can do a shooting star of his feet I just don't really see the point in anything the young bucks do. They're friends with really good wrestlers but wrestling Talent isn't even sexually transmittable so it's certainly not transmittable just by hanging around with somebody your friends don't make you good at wrestling otherwise Kevin Nash would be a bona fide legend lol basically the young bucks Kevin Nash it's the same person they made the right friends.
@@pleaseno333 that's not that long that's literally just 3 solid wrestling jokes based on their lack of Talent and tremendous friendship acquisition skills I'm guessing it's how you got where you got in life lol
@@pleaseno333 I mean, he's not wrong. If you've watched one Young Buck match, there's no need to see another. All they do are flips, dives and super kicks. There's not a lot there pass that.
@@thepolarphantasm2319 That's exactly what it is..... And he's wondering why ratings are dropping. I don't even know guys on the roster and this whole yearly cuts shit they do is disgusting.
I wonder why they always talk or complain bout every wrestling show except WhatCulture Wrestling it self. ow yeah sorry there own show whas so bad its not around anymore
@@deadersurvival4716 aww, I remember my first time trying to troll on social media (not really)... A tip, try this thing called "making sense" and try not to throw random nonsense. It helps to not sound like just a butthurt loser, crying. A cute attempt tho. Keep trying. 👍😁
When did Cornette actually do any wrestling? I'd love to know. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to listen to someone who ACTUALLY knows what they're talking about and ACTUALLY done things in the business other than ride everyone else's coattails, Simon Miller.
@@syndicategrim3452 No clue, it couldn't be that those "TH-cam marks" are the same people who are actively watching wrestling programs, both directly and indirectly paying wrestling for the entertainment that they want to see, in a way that SHOULD actively encourage businesses in the wrestling industry to give them what they want; causing jokes and mockery when a company actively creates a reputation that discards those same people's opinions just so the owner can fetishize a bunch of large men, and desecrate tag, women's, and women's tag wrestling. Yeah, that couldn't be it.
@@deadersurvival4716 So you mean the guy whose greatest claim to fame is talking about things other people are doing isn't riding coattails? Simon may wrestle, but his in ring career hasn't afforded him any more knowledge of the business than a guy that has run his own territory and helped train arguably the single most successful group of professional wrestlers ever in in-ring psychology.
Corny was actually excited for AEW until he saw the product, and even now he’ll still praise what’s good and bash what’s bad. Y’all AEW stans just can’t take any kind of criticism. Corny bashes WWE just as much. The man just wants to see simple good old wrestling.
Could this be more biased? “Vince is a weird weird man, if he decides something is going to happen then it’s going to happen whether it makes sense or not”, remind me again what’s happening with AEWs title?
3:05 A badly worked match is a badly worked match, whether it's intentional or not. We get it. WhatCulture hates Jim Cornette, because he doesn't fellate Kenny Omega. But, when you see what he's talking about,with context, he's right, far more often than not, about professional wrestling.
Anyone with this level of hate for Cornette has only ever heard snippets of his rants , which in isolation do sound awful. If all people hear is out of context bits presented by those who wish to discredit him, then its no wonder people think cornette is controversial and hateful
Isn't "intentionally badly working a match" more often than not just selling an injury though? What's the difference between selling ring rust and selling an injury to tell the story of a match?
@@isabellamorris7902 You can still work a match well while selling ring rust or injury. The guys in Japan do it all the time. The difference is in how easily you can see them trying to "botch" moves and sequences they've done hundreds of times.
Calling Cornette a bad faith critic earned you a downvote from me. He's a geezer and might be out of touch, and his political opinions are dog spit, but he gives AEW free, objectively good advice every week. He praises what's good and criticizes what's lazy.
Except he literally doen't give any objectively good advice, even in his own opinion, considering he'll bash AEW for something, and then praise WWE for the exact same thing. Just admit you're a suckboy and move on.
@@vileluca as tmage said, he's literally wished that people die (especially the talent like Omega and the Bucks) on air. How Cornette is not in federal prison, I don't know. As for bashing AEW and praising WWE for doing the same thing, let's hake how both companies treated their top star's heel work (at the time, Omega vs Roman). Cornette loved the angle where Roman talked about his dislike of the missionary position, and yet, hates the "goofy shit" that Omega did. And that's just the first thing I think of. I actually listened to the disgusting filth that is Cornette, I'd probably be able to think of more, but as it is, I only listen to news stories from people who are actually impartial.
If your ankle, knee, leg are hurt/injured, why would you continue to try to flip, fly, dive, springboard? Makes no sense. Makes that person look like a complete idiot that has very little in their offensive and "tool box".
Puro means pro in Japanese. Calling puroresu (pro-wres) "puro" is dumb and doesn't make sense. And it's not pronounced pure-oh. The u is /basically/ silent. Maybe you should educate yourself on the topics you cover.
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I love AJ screaming "I hate lucha ropes" after his second "botch". So funny!
Lol because he wouldn't admit that he couldn't do a Springboard that time
I was a wrestler and I’ve set up rings for lucha shows….the ropes are way fucking tighter for them
Brian Pillman Jr did a similar thing to AJ a while back against Malakai Black. I still can't work out if his springboard botch was intentional (his foot placement was near identical to the Great Sasuke's example in this video) but he did play up big confidence issues for the next couple of matches.
Was a nice touch for somebody still green.
Yeah the was a good mini story. I feel like Pullman was definitely influenced by styles there.
The styles “botches” are a great way to turn something bad into something amazing.
FACTS dude.
Another instance; Billy Kidman botching a shooting star press on Chavo Guerrero (breaking Chavo's nose with his knee in the process) and slowly turning him heel on Paul London because Kidman didn't want to hit the shooting star press again, even thought London wanted him to do it. Even though Chavo was never meant to get injured in the first place and it was all an accident, Kidman ran with it and made it into a storyline after the fact.
That shit was dope as hell. I still remember that shooting star press it looked brutal
It definitely was brutal. Chavo was taken off tv for weeks, maybe a month or 2.
@@ALXStarfish97 yeah it looked like he was busted open instantly
Correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't Chavo made to return as Kerwin White as a result of head injury?
@@TheTMNTurtle no it wasn't. It was just a pointless repackaging
That roll up Becky used on Ronda definitely looked weak. I’m surprised Becky didn’t pin Charlotte instead.
Because it was weak since it was a botch and not a proper pin
she was supposed to, apparently (or submit her, I forget)
Also a very funny moment in Bullet Club vs Top Rope angle on Chikara show, if I remember correctly, they even gave the top tope a Triple Superkick at some point
The premise that as a audience we have a say on who main events sounds good and maybe be somewhat true with most of the promotions, but I’d argue not with WWE. They have to be forced into it. There’s just too many examples of the WWE ignoring what we the fans want to see.
Yer it's almost as if they book the shows 🤦🏽 you people do my head in
Michael sidgwick is a crazy aew fan that somehow gets to judge wwe without a bias warning. He legit ruined the wrestlemania rating vids
Pac sells depth perception or his depth perception was actually hindered because he wore an eyepatch
The Bucks get a lotta heat for just doing moves , and not selling . Matt sold his back like crazy! For months ! Maybe cause it was really hurt . IDK. I think their shtick is pretty stale now , but back in the day , PWG stuff was great at the time ! I think (and maybe its just me) fans are now ready for more realistic wrestling that makes more sense again . Nothing wrong with a few matches on a show doing crazy highspots , i love that too . But The overall tone should be serious promos , serious wrestling . Brian , Punk , MJF and FTR for example have done that great s of late . Its no Crockett 80s or AJPW early 90s , but a step in the right direction
You could tell these botches were intentional because nobody proclaimed "I AM THE TABLE!"
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂💀
Young Bucks 2018 might be my favorite version of them they sold that back and ankle injury literally for a year and a half.
Surprised to not see the KO/Sami springboard spot on here. Great list
The Young Bucks suck on purpose? Could have fooled me, I was under the impression they just sucked period.
LOL at the Sabu one!
Is this not just called “psychology”?
Not according to a certain Louisville shock jock.
These videos are Amazing
Jim cornette is not bad faith criticism, the man likes old school wrestling
Yep you could quickly tell these were sidgewick’s words
Really? It might just be that you're a suckboy and you like to complain because not everyone else is.
Yuup. Besides the fact that he's trying to get the young bucks loved. Dude needs to understand the bucks aren't everyone's cup of tea. I'm personally an FTR fan but the bucks are amazing pro wrestlers. If no one can see that then that's also fine
@@juniorkhomari1850 TYB are great wrestlers but man their characters GRATE and they're on TV way too much atm.
AJ Styles botches? Mhm, where? Shikara? Okay, the first might be real, the rest is a work for comedy. Glorious!
which is exactly what the video said...
Not disagreeing there. Just badly worded perhaps.
I was at the Royal Rumble Cena-Batista McMahon blown quads event.
Criticizing WWE Is ok but being AEW IS trash, spot feast, and the other bs hurt y’all feelings 😂
Michael sadrick wrote this so instant dislike
Jokes on you, Sidgwick is right.
okay but mick foley is a genius for that. he really said imma piss off shawn to make him do better and it worked.
Jules is the man!
A list actually using the phrase "totally intentional botches" featuring at least one slam dunk "It was 100% totally a botch, but..." WhatCulture everybody
What about matt hardy's invisible twist of fate 😫😫
I called that liger spot !!! Sasuke has done that several times . Oops or " oops" yeah . Makes sense does it not ?
I cannot believe that any of those wwe F'ups were intentional , wwe creative are not that imaginative or that smart .
What was going on with Aj Styles and those ropes? Not only he can't do a Spiral Tap anymore apparently he couldn't do a Springboard move
How many of theses are not planned lol but "Wrestlers say they Are"? Lol great video though
I watch AEW more than WWE nowadays, but "sports-centric"? Really?
Don't they have a dinosaur for a tag team champ right now? And a millennial character that throws lazy shin kicks every single match? And an alien lady?
Kenny omega would cover up the botch with perfection
Please give MJF the belt for a long time, the guy is too awesome. He might be greater than HHH
Hello there
Um, what was the botch in the last one? I didn’t understand it!
This has nothing to do with the video but I got an ad for the jeep grand wagoneer. Oh boy is that a terrible name. Talk about a botch am I right? *high five*
Say what you want about the Bucks but they are good at what they do
Where can I watch pro wrestling?
I heard he has settled out of court for a needle exchange gift voucher
Jim Cornette is the man.. One of the best bookers/promoters of all time. He knows what he's talking about..
This was a very what culture video
Bucks and "authentic" hahahahahaha
Shawn Michaels vs mankind great match
Hi
2:37 was this a passive aggressive shot at aew?
I'm pretty sure that was a sarcastic jab at the haters.
JULES!
AJ and the rope 😀
The amount of swearing in this video really jarred for me. Don’t get me wrong I love to fucking swear. But when you know you have to bleep it out why write it into the script? Weird.
So he can pretend he's not made of soy for a moment.
Jules rules !!! ; )
When it comes to Corny's hate for The Bucks, I am of the firm belief he hates them because he couldn't do anything with them while he was in charge of ROH.
The young Bucks are just flippy doodles there's not really a lot substance, I've seen and have a good matches with people who can have good matches when they're in there with somebody who's s*** as they are you have to really like your flippy doodles to be entertained. 🙂🙃🙂 emoticon flipy doodle when you've got guys who can do a shooting star of his feet I just don't really see the point in anything the young bucks do. They're friends with really good wrestlers but wrestling Talent isn't even sexually transmittable so it's certainly not transmittable just by hanging around with somebody your friends don't make you good at wrestling otherwise Kevin Nash would be a bona fide legend lol basically the young bucks Kevin Nash it's the same person they made the right friends.
@@pleaseno333 that's not that long that's literally just 3 solid wrestling jokes based on their lack of Talent and tremendous friendship acquisition skills I'm guessing it's how you got where you got in life lol
@@pleaseno333 I mean, he's not wrong. If you've watched one Young Buck match, there's no need to see another. All they do are flips, dives and super kicks. There's not a lot there pass that.
A.E.W. is the best thing smokin. I will NOT watch WWE again.
Why would you? I'm an adult, I'm not still watching Disney channel 😂
Leave that kid show crap for the Fortnite kids
@@thepolarphantasm2319 That's exactly what it is..... And he's wondering why ratings are dropping. I don't even know guys on the roster and this whole yearly cuts shit they do is disgusting.
@@Rysofly they're not a wrestling company, they're a content farm.
WWE is Troom Troom with less Ukrainian girls 😂
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@@thepolarphantasm2319 Sports Entertainment lol..... But when Vince finally lets go maybe they can get back to something great.
Jules
I wonder why they always talk or complain bout every wrestling show except
WhatCulture Wrestling it self.
ow yeah sorry there own show whas so bad its not around anymore
Love Jules. Just let him do every video
The Omega vs Moxley Exploding Barbwire Deathmatch ending was “worked” botch!!! The commentators ruined it since they prob didn’t know the finish lol
These botches are from aew
😂😂😂😂😂
Sidgwick is so obviously biased against WWE it's ridiculous. Two entries and one is taking a shot at them.
...Listen to yourself. You're a suckboy, and it'd be hysterical if it weren't so pathetic.
@@deadersurvival4716 aww, I remember my first time trying to troll on social media (not really)...
A tip, try this thing called "making sense" and try not to throw random nonsense. It helps to not sound like just a butthurt loser, crying.
A cute attempt tho. Keep trying. 👍😁
I’m just gonna say it, The Bucks are not my cup of tea.
"AEW adds botched spots to matches because they are story telling geniuses"... sure they do buddy, sure they do lol
Go watch wwe
Hmmmm
I love how a bunch of TH-cam marks think they know more then a man who’s held every job in the business. They suck up to AEW so much it’s pathetic.
When did Cornette actually do any wrestling?
I'd love to know.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to listen to someone who ACTUALLY knows what they're talking about and ACTUALLY done things in the business other than ride everyone else's coattails, Simon Miller.
Wonder why 🤔
@@syndicategrim3452 No clue, it couldn't be that those "TH-cam marks" are the same people who are actively watching wrestling programs, both directly and indirectly paying wrestling for the entertainment that they want to see, in a way that SHOULD actively encourage businesses in the wrestling industry to give them what they want; causing jokes and mockery when a company actively creates a reputation that discards those same people's opinions just so the owner can fetishize a bunch of large men, and desecrate tag, women's, and women's tag wrestling.
Yeah, that couldn't be it.
@@deadersurvival4716 So you mean the guy whose greatest claim to fame is talking about things other people are doing isn't riding coattails? Simon may wrestle, but his in ring career hasn't afforded him any more knowledge of the business than a guy that has run his own territory and helped train arguably the single most successful group of professional wrestlers ever in in-ring psychology.
Idea* not Ideer!
Toemato tomato
@@bloodysabbath1984 nah dude,imagine adding R to words that never had that letter
@3:18 Finally someone calls out Corny for just being a plain hater of AEW.
Corny was actually excited for AEW until he saw the product, and even now he’ll still praise what’s good and bash what’s bad. Y’all AEW stans just can’t take any kind of criticism. Corny bashes WWE just as much. The man just wants to see simple good old wrestling.
Whatculture just said AEW is a sports entertainment company like WWE
Could this be more biased? “Vince is a weird weird man, if he decides something is going to happen then it’s going to happen whether it makes sense or not”, remind me again what’s happening with AEWs title?
Anything to defend AEW I see 😂
PG kiddie Wwe has the biggest desperate defenders.
Etards be like "anything to defend AEW I see" 😂
@Paul Woodford “LeT iT pLaY oUt” they say. “vInCe KnOwS wHaT hE’s DoInG” they say.
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@@StarrPower2232 Anytime a wwe fan says let it play out it the storyline always ends up TRASH.
Your salt nourishes Jim Cornette.
Who cares about Jim cornette 😂
I should hope so, considering Jim Cornette literally is nothing else. Cornette is a walking sodium pack.
@@alexescutia4805 Apparently whatculture does since they feel the need to address his opinion.
3:05 A badly worked match is a badly worked match, whether it's intentional or not.
We get it. WhatCulture hates Jim Cornette, because he doesn't fellate Kenny Omega. But, when you see what he's talking about,with context, he's right, far more often than not, about professional wrestling.
Anyone with this level of hate for Cornette has only ever heard snippets of his rants , which in isolation do sound awful. If all people hear is out of context bits presented by those who wish to discredit him, then its no wonder people think cornette is controversial and hateful
Isn't "intentionally badly working a match" more often than not just selling an injury though? What's the difference between selling ring rust and selling an injury to tell the story of a match?
@@isabellamorris7902 You can still work a match well while selling ring rust or injury. The guys in Japan do it all the time. The difference is in how easily you can see them trying to "botch" moves and sequences they've done hundreds of times.
This is some of the markiest shit I've ever watched
Calling Cornette a bad faith critic earned you a downvote from me.
He's a geezer and might be out of touch, and his political opinions are dog spit, but he gives AEW free, objectively good advice every week. He praises what's good and criticizes what's lazy.
Except he literally doen't give any objectively good advice, even in his own opinion, considering he'll bash AEW for something, and then praise WWE for the exact same thing.
Just admit you're a suckboy and move on.
I've literally heard him wish death on AEW wrestlers. There's nothing constructive about his criticism.
@@deadersurvival4716 Give an example.
@@tmage23 Wrong. Yes, some of what he says is bigoted trash. Other things have value. There is nuance here.
@@vileluca as tmage said, he's literally wished that people die (especially the talent like Omega and the Bucks) on air. How Cornette is not in federal prison, I don't know.
As for bashing AEW and praising WWE for doing the same thing, let's hake how both companies treated their top star's heel work (at the time, Omega vs Roman).
Cornette loved the angle where Roman talked about his dislike of the missionary position, and yet, hates the "goofy shit" that Omega did.
And that's just the first thing I think of. I actually listened to the disgusting filth that is Cornette, I'd probably be able to think of more, but as it is, I only listen to news stories from people who are actually impartial.
Ronda got screwed
If your ankle, knee, leg are hurt/injured, why would you continue to try to flip, fly, dive, springboard? Makes no sense. Makes that person look like a complete idiot that has very little in their offensive and "tool box".
Here's the thing. The Bucks' ring rust performance was overdone and it made them look like inept clowns.
😂😂😂
Ooook
You want a cookie?
Thanks for the input, are you a wrestler or wrestling trainer? Take a walk.
Here's the thing... it was meant to make them look inept 🤦♂️
okay expert
Puro means pro in Japanese. Calling puroresu (pro-wres) "puro" is dumb and doesn't make sense. And it's not pronounced pure-oh. The u is /basically/ silent. Maybe you should educate yourself on the topics you cover.
Cody Rhoades making a garbage promotion on a dare......
tell me you're a spastic without saying you're a spastic
Get rid of this narrator
Get rid of the hate.
Or just don't watch it.
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