Spoiler . . . . . 50-50 Racing Incident for me. Ben should have left more room as he turns in too early, as if it's his corner and could have taken a wider line. He had momentum. Alex was too far back and should have backed out at the point of contact.
It’s easy to blame someone for that incident with Alex but when you actually look at the replay there was hardly any contact. Looks more like a netcode problem to me, but if you’ve ever raced on this track you’d know that 2 wide into turn 1 at full racing speed just isn’t a good idea lol.
on top of that, soft vs medium. alex just had to be the smart one and realise ben already had the position. just use ben to gain advantage on those mediums instead of trying to get some ego going. desperation to stay in front got the better of him and thats fine.
@@xAshreal yeah he should have just let the pass happen and tuck into the slipstream to save battery, but it looks like he really wanted to stay ahead which is understandable I’m sure we’ve all been there before. It would have been an easy win tho cause the softs fall off quickly around here, so I don’t understand why they were trying to go wheel to wheel being on different strategies. It was just a racing incident in the end about 50/50 fault Alex could have backed out and been more smart about it, and Ben could have left a bit more space.
probably more a racing incident than anything. Alex didnt have any more space to do anything whereas Ben perhaps could have turned in a little less but its also not as though he turned in completely. Plus like Ben said, the smart thing for Alex would have been to let Ben go and stick in his DRS and wait for that tyre advantage to swing back his way later.
I mean it kinda is, he knew that for an incident that wasn't his fault, he was gonna get a bunch of flack from Ben's fans, and I can't imagine that's nice to have
@@emraldpearLive wasn’t his fault? He was the one swerving around knowing he has a tire disadvantage still trying to stick it on the inside when the move was practically done. It’s not the first time he went flying into a corner either so it’s no surprise he got taken out, it was bound to happen when you drive like that. Also if you actually look at the replay there was barely any contact it was more like network issues, not to mention Alex has like another foot of space on the inside curb so he could have taken a tighter line.
@@emraldpearLive That is fair and I didn't think about the flack he would receive. I just see it as ultimately it is a game. It is just a group of creators racing at the end of the day
I think the crash was fairly innocuous, but more the fault of Ben. I’m a Ben fan, but quite simply you have to give room on the inside if you overtake on the outside, and he didn’t. Yes Alex could and arguably should have backed out, but he was under no obligation to do so. Always assume he’s still there until you know he isn’t.
you can clearly see alex has got enough space on the inside, yes ben turned in a little bit early considering he has alex on his inside but looking from the onboard of ben there is almost no contact, both were at fault, ben had the obvious overspeed and the overtake was nearly done but turned in slightly too early, alex shouldve backed out from a car on faster tyres with huge overspeed on the straight(ers,drs)
@samurai_king_yt8058 How did Alex turn in to Ben? Do you understand F1? Alex turned right. Ben was on his left. You can only turn in to someone if they are on your inside
@ItzMav What makes you say Alex had enough space on the inside? For me he was right up next to the white line on the right side, so the fact that Ben hits him means for me he didn’t have a car’s width, meaning there wasn’t enough space. Also I fully get your point that he should’ve backed out as it wasn’t worth fighting, but that has no real relevance in the conversation of fault, as by the rules he’s under no obligation to back out.
@@Nando_Lorris_04 looking from outside the car you can see alex have space on the inside, it looked more like a network incident than a real incident since ben didn't even feel Alex. if you watched the real life japan you know that when a car overtakes you on that spot on track they all back out on the inside bc it just doesnt work everyone who drives japan on the game knows this as well since its a corner that gets tighter
Alex just refuses to not put his nose in every opportunity he gets. He'll slow down other cars in breaking zones by wheel banging in slow corners. He's such an arrogant driver and refuses to concede any position in any race.
That first lap in sprint race.. Well,first few corners.. It was a joke. Half of them could have avoid collision easily, but of course,all of them lost all of their front wing.
I dont get why Gillon didnt just use the curbs , with that he had more then a cars width .. or like Ben said just let Ben have that corner get him back on one of the countless other corners ...
The cars width has to be inside the white lines. The curb is beyond the white line. He didn’t have a cars width on the inside. Whatever you think of the incident, saying he had a car’s width is factually false
Overall the move is Ben’s fault as if Gillon wants to hang a wheel inside and ruin his exit that is his right, however the logical move for Gillon was to back out way before the corner there knowing that even if he was left room there was no chance he goes into turn 2 ahead. One of those where even though Gillon can feel upset over the contact he needs to not put himself in that kind of position with time left in the race.
Just a racing incident that’s exaggerated because of the speed, position, time of race, and drivers. At the end of the day, it’s fictional racing and is never that serious
I like Ben as a TH-camr but have been following Alex for the last couple of months because of their rivalry. Alex is probably a better racer but Ben is definitely a better TH-camr. Further, Alex is too competitive and whenever he bumps someone it’s always a racing incident but whenever he loses position it’s always the other person’s mistake. Don’t care, Ben is my favourite content creator of F1 and felt so happy he is driving so good
To me the incident is 50/50. Ben should have given a little more room but I don't think he "closed the door" or anything like that. Alex should have been more patient but he also had a right to the inside line. I'd say he does have an aggression problem and if anything, that's the biggest reason for the incident, but I'd genuinely still call it 50/50.
I think ben could have left more space, yes you dont want to give the attacking car the opptimal line but that could have ended badly just as much for ben as it did alex
I do think it was a racing incident, but if we have to point fingers I'm gonna Ben. Alex needed space and didn't get it, even though he wasn't deserving of space by the rules. It wouldv'e been nice to give Alex the space.
I think the crash wasn't really your guys' fault, in the replay you can see there is hardly any contact so it was probably the game that caused it. I voted Silverstone for you Ben! Even tho i want Spa
You tend to ignore the red markers. Still pulling the car onto the racing line even if the red arrow is there. Happened in the sprint, happened at the race. Tbh I wouldn't wanna race you either. You are a great youtuber, I gotta give you that, but your idea of racing is quite poor
The door wasn't shut, there was more than a car's width up the inside, it's on Gillon to make safe use of the space. You can see clear at 30:28 that there's space and Alex just went a bit wide trying to unwisely hang it on the inside
The other driver ( Wont Say His Name) is in the wrong. Ben was very much ahead and its on the other driver to back out. Space was given but the other driver is so arrogant and quite frankly comes across as the biggest crybaby in the the whole of creator series
The lap we had the incident I burned my battery to get fastest lap, didn’t get it so the battery was wasted for no reason and Skyzii was quicker than me anyway so it was GG’s
I dunno, I watched the responses from Thomb, GB, Rasin, Saffzo and some others every single one of them agreed that you are at fault for the contact. Should alex of given up the place - Yes Does he have to give it up - NO Do YOU have to give space - YES That's the thing in this incident for me, alex has literally done nothing wrong than what should be done other than not conceding position, but you physically just pushed him off which is a huge NO NO. Like alex said on stream, he isn't going to race you anymore. Personally if it was me, i'd just let you past, what's the point of racing you if you don't race anyone at all and just pretend they don't exist. If thats the way you enjoy racing then okay, but the fact that most people on the grid can go wheel to wheel and not make contact, but you are in basically every single one of these incidents feels its an issue with your driving rather than anyone else. Think you need to reassess your standards before you alienate every single driver on the grid until eventually no one wants to race you because you just don't race fairly. You becoming the Pastor Maldonado of the online racing community, sooner or later, your getting a ban.
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50-50 Racing Incident for me. Ben should have left more room as he turns in too early, as if it's his corner and could have taken a wider line. He had momentum. Alex was too far back and should have backed out at the point of contact.
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This is the most valid opinion 💯💯 all the other opinions are wrong
fair assessment. Felt more like Verstappen-Hamilton in Silverstone 2021. Weaving to break the tow, and a light touch that changed it all.
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@@thomassmets8303 if you think that then you are either blind or you havent actually watched it
It’s easy to blame someone for that incident with Alex but when you actually look at the replay there was hardly any contact. Looks more like a netcode problem to me, but if you’ve ever raced on this track you’d know that 2 wide into turn 1 at full racing speed just isn’t a good idea lol.
on top of that, soft vs medium. alex just had to be the smart one and realise ben already had the position. just use ben to gain advantage on those mediums instead of trying to get some ego going. desperation to stay in front got the better of him and thats fine.
@@xAshreal yeah he should have just let the pass happen and tuck into the slipstream to save battery, but it looks like he really wanted to stay ahead which is understandable I’m sure we’ve all been there before. It would have been an easy win tho cause the softs fall off quickly around here, so I don’t understand why they were trying to go wheel to wheel being on different strategies. It was just a racing incident in the end about 50/50 fault Alex could have backed out and been more smart about it, and Ben could have left a bit more space.
When is F1 manager
Gillon casually parting the red sea
Ben Gillon strikes again
probably more a racing incident than anything. Alex didnt have any more space to do anything whereas Ben perhaps could have turned in a little less but its also not as though he turned in completely. Plus like Ben said, the smart thing for Alex would have been to let Ben go and stick in his DRS and wait for that tyre advantage to swing back his way later.
Gillon seemed like he was gonna cry on stream. It's not that deep man 😕
I mean it kinda is, he knew that for an incident that wasn't his fault, he was gonna get a bunch of flack from Ben's fans, and I can't imagine that's nice to have
@@emraldpearLive wasn’t his fault? He was the one swerving around knowing he has a tire disadvantage still trying to stick it on the inside when the move was practically done. It’s not the first time he went flying into a corner either so it’s no surprise he got taken out, it was bound to happen when you drive like that. Also if you actually look at the replay there was barely any contact it was more like network issues, not to mention Alex has like another foot of space on the inside curb so he could have taken a tighter line.
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Gillon cry like baby
@@emraldpearLive That is fair and I didn't think about the flack he would receive. I just see it as ultimately it is a game. It is just a group of creators racing at the end of the day
Should submit that turn 1 moment to the “racing stewards” Reddit and see how people answer lol
Do it, I'd love to see the answers
gillon in the bin
He’s in the mud
Setting controversy and whatanots aside, what a fantastic edit this vid is
3:07 Happiest I've ever been in a Creator Series race
Wot is happeninggge
Bro how the spanish guy spunned the french guy killed me🤣🤣🤣
Oh we definitely want a spoiler blocker for this one Ben
Every race u have has controversy that's what we love to see
It’s true, I do indeed say it just like that 💀
Croissant!!! 27:31
Edit: After watching through, you apexed Alex.
Met le où je pense ton croissant 😂
I think the crash was fairly innocuous, but more the fault of Ben. I’m a Ben fan, but quite simply you have to give room on the inside if you overtake on the outside, and he didn’t. Yes Alex could and arguably should have backed out, but he was under no obligation to do so. Always assume he’s still there until you know he isn’t.
There was space, Alex turned into Ben mate
you can clearly see alex has got enough space on the inside, yes ben turned in a little bit early considering he has alex on his inside but looking from the onboard of ben there is almost no contact, both were at fault, ben had the obvious overspeed and the overtake was nearly done but turned in slightly too early, alex shouldve backed out from a car on faster tyres with huge overspeed on the straight(ers,drs)
@samurai_king_yt8058 How did Alex turn in to Ben? Do you understand F1? Alex turned right. Ben was on his left. You can only turn in to someone if they are on your inside
@ItzMav What makes you say Alex had enough space on the inside? For me he was right up next to the white line on the right side, so the fact that Ben hits him means for me he didn’t have a car’s width, meaning there wasn’t enough space.
Also I fully get your point that he should’ve backed out as it wasn’t worth fighting, but that has no real relevance in the conversation of fault, as by the rules he’s under no obligation to back out.
@@Nando_Lorris_04 looking from outside the car you can see alex have space on the inside, it looked more like a network incident than a real incident since ben didn't even feel Alex.
if you watched the real life japan you know that when a car overtakes you on that spot on track they all back out on the inside bc it just doesnt work everyone who drives japan on the game knows this as well since its a corner that gets tighter
Alex was moving so erratically before the contact anyway, something was bound to happen.
Keep it up editor!!! these edits from different perspectives are great
Gillion in the mud, gillon in the muddddd
Alex just refuses to not put his nose in every opportunity he gets. He'll slow down other cars in breaking zones by wheel banging in slow corners. He's such an arrogant driver and refuses to concede any position in any race.
braking not breaking
Ben is back with a banger
Classic elray why’s he in this league if he can’t race clean out him in f2 at most
7:50 had me thinking wing was about to get binned again
27:25 what was the guy in the Alphatauri doing!?
Cheating I guess
Gillon getting a taste of his own medicine then crys about it 😂😂
Great result tho
when has alex taken someone out in the lead?
@@tombolton6063 U watched the last 4 player career mode video where Alex gave Ben's teammate a penalty on purpose so he could win
Thumbnail wrote Japaense instead of Japanese
Alex for sure killin Ben in the next race 😂😂😂
So business as usual!
Alex gillons luck strikes again
Alex always gets heated whenever Ben is close. One could almost think Ben murdered his whole family with how much he loses his mind.
19:32 happened irl but this time its a single ferrari
That first lap in sprint race.. Well,first few corners.. It was a joke. Half of them could have avoid collision easily, but of course,all of them lost all of their front wing.
Spelt Japanese wrong in the thumbnail
Sure there will be good and fair takes in the comments and not the emotional sillyness that twitch chat had. sure that will happen
I dont get why Gillon didnt just use the curbs , with that he had more then a cars width .. or like Ben said just let Ben have that corner get him back on one of the countless other corners ...
You can’t touch that kerb at all it’s a death sentence
The cars width has to be inside the white lines. The curb is beyond the white line. He didn’t have a cars width on the inside. Whatever you think of the incident, saying he had a car’s width is factually false
@@Nando_Lorris_04 wyoab mate u can use the curb
Thumbnail has a spelling mistake lol
Here for the Drama !
same
"japaense" grand prix in the thumbnail 😂
Overall the move is Ben’s fault as if Gillon wants to hang a wheel inside and ruin his exit that is his right, however the logical move for Gillon was to back out way before the corner there knowing that even if he was left room there was no chance he goes into turn 2 ahead. One of those where even though Gillon can feel upset over the contact he needs to not put himself in that kind of position with time left in the race.
Just a racing incident that’s exaggerated because of the speed, position, time of race, and drivers. At the end of the day, it’s fictional racing and is never that serious
Says a lot that Ben was told he would have likely got a penalty in another series for the move.
What music does ben use
f1 24 games official song
Conveniently cut out them saying in PSGL (or what ever) that swipe would have been a penalty
Ah yes, the Japaense GP
I like Ben as a TH-camr but have been following Alex for the last couple of months because of their rivalry. Alex is probably a better racer but Ben is definitely a better TH-camr. Further, Alex is too competitive and whenever he bumps someone it’s always a racing incident but whenever he loses position it’s always the other person’s mistake. Don’t care, Ben is my favourite content creator of F1 and felt so happy he is driving so good
To me the incident is 50/50. Ben should have given a little more room but I don't think he "closed the door" or anything like that. Alex should have been more patient but he also had a right to the inside line. I'd say he does have an aggression problem and if anything, that's the biggest reason for the incident, but I'd genuinely still call it 50/50.
I think ben could have left more space, yes you dont want to give the attacking car the opptimal line but that could have ended badly just as much for ben as it did alex
wish i caught this race live
I do think it was a racing incident, but if we have to point fingers I'm gonna Ben. Alex needed space and didn't get it, even though he wasn't deserving of space by the rules. It wouldv'e been nice to give Alex the space.
HUHH?? What happened between lap 44 and lap 47???
I’m sorry Ben but that’s actually shocking 😅
Gillon got what he finally deserved. Such a dirty driver and doesn’t think he is but he clearly is
I think gillon just needs to know when to back out. There were still 10 laps to go so plenty of other opportunities if he just backed out.
great episode Ben!! 👍🏻
Everyday I wonder how Elrey is still in the creator series. Dude straight up shoved GB in the last corner to steal the win
At the end of the day, its just racing
I think the crash wasn't really your guys' fault, in the replay you can see there is hardly any contact so it was probably the game that caused it. I voted Silverstone for you Ben! Even tho i want Spa
Bens ahead into the corner. That means it’s bens corner and gillon has to concede. Gillon doesn’t. There’s contact. Racing incident, gillon to blame.
Ben is so fit for Ferrari with his strategies
I gotta say. Your wheel looks fire man. I wish that i had one of those!
To defend Ben, it is T1 in Japan
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You would have to be crazy to keep your nose in it there. Not along anymore, overtake was done and it was ben's corner.
Definitely Alex should have backed out. Still multiple laps plus no way he's holding the racing line thru the corner in that entry.
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Ok, let's all just collectively touch grass maybe?
who doesn't have rear view mirror enabled?
29:55 Silverstone 2021 between max and lewis
Exactly my thoughts
reply of silver stone 2021 basically
can we have a new set up tour as next video please
Turned in on him but Alex could EASILY have just accepted that and backed out
Alex Gillon has negative racing IQ when Ben is near him
27:25 I'm sorry but this mf pushed Pearja TWICE. This is purely unacceptable
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Did you watch the Japanese grand prix over the weekend?🤔
Please Ben, don't bottle this Season
It was gillon's fault. Ben was first on the corner and he followed the racing line also left space. Alex pushed too much there
50-50, Ben turned in too early and Alex should've backed out before the point of contact. If it was a real life race, that's a Penalty for Ben.
uh uh
Ben casually ignoring the red arrows when he decides to take the apex causing an incident. No awareness or accountability and it’s boring now
He gave just about enough space
I gotta say what a fuckin start to that spring
Why is Gillion crying...its a racing incident at worst he kept the nose inside, obviously ben didnt give him all the space but its t1 at suzuka
You tend to ignore the red markers. Still pulling the car onto the racing line even if the red arrow is there. Happened in the sprint, happened at the race. Tbh I wouldn't wanna race you either. You are a great youtuber, I gotta give you that, but your idea of racing is quite poor
Is Ben or Alex our ElRey this time?
Sorry but thats on ben, you cant shut the door like that regardless of your speed.
The door wasn't shut, there was more than a car's width up the inside, it's on Gillon to make safe use of the space. You can see clear at 30:28 that there's space and Alex just went a bit wide trying to unwisely hang it on the inside
The other driver ( Wont Say His Name) is in the wrong. Ben was very much ahead and its on the other driver to back out. Space was given but the other driver is so arrogant and quite frankly comes across as the biggest crybaby in the the whole of creator series
Ben takes out Alex then shits the bed 😂😂😂 love it
The lap we had the incident I burned my battery to get fastest lap, didn’t get it so the battery was wasted for no reason and Skyzii was quicker than me anyway so it was GG’s
@Tiametmarduk as long as you took Alex out it was all worth it
Alex needs to learn patience when racing
Gillons fault there
The move that Alex made was so avoidable if he just simply waited for another sector he could’ve won
Fabio needs to calm down, he sometimes loses the car and dnfs because of some tiny mistakes :/
This time he actually did nothing wrong, just really unfortunate contact 😭
What about you Ben? Always destroy your ERS for 1 point of fastest lap but lose all the pace
The incident was unfortunate
He has been on controller? Damn
Racing incident with Gillon. Wouldn’t be a penalty for either driver in actual F1.
And here i thought you are adressing the penalty against opmere when he criticised F1 esport for making a dumb and useless VSC that fucked the race xd
And the Comment Arguments start again..............................
I’m here for another Ben bottle
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Ridiquion needs to go
it was a good "japaense" race
I dunno, I watched the responses from Thomb, GB, Rasin, Saffzo and some others every single one of them agreed that you are at fault for the contact.
Should alex of given up the place - Yes
Does he have to give it up - NO
Do YOU have to give space - YES
That's the thing in this incident for me, alex has literally done nothing wrong than what should be done other than not conceding position, but you physically just pushed him off which is a huge NO NO.
Like alex said on stream, he isn't going to race you anymore. Personally if it was me, i'd just let you past, what's the point of racing you if you don't race anyone at all and just pretend they don't exist. If thats the way you enjoy racing then okay, but the fact that most people on the grid can go wheel to wheel and not make contact, but you are in basically every single one of these incidents feels its an issue with your driving rather than anyone else.
Think you need to reassess your standards before you alienate every single driver on the grid until eventually no one wants to race you because you just don't race fairly.
You becoming the Pastor Maldonado of the online racing community, sooner or later, your getting a ban.
It's just pixels in a screen
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Bro wrote a Shakespeare novel over a racing incident on a racing game
@@owenburton 🤣
Cry harder
alex is such a sook. it’s just a video game, goes so show he bases his whole life and personality around this video game, sad
y don't they use wets
Bc they are crap
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YES, ANOTHER VID
Ben please I'm begging of you can I get some help with my f2 career