hijacking this comment to say if you're wondering whether watching this is worth even if you havent heard of these other 2, it is defs worth it. for the laughs at least, not so much for any wisdom or knowledge
Came in expecting Tony to be this weird red pill character. He ended up just being an innocent normie who doesn't judge anyone's lifestyle choices. Cool dude.
He actually kind of annoyed me. Not so much because of his opinions, but his approach. Being a normie doesn’t mean you don’t have opinions or views on things. This guy came off to me like he was avoiding conflict and just trying to get along by playing the middle-of-the-road kind of guy and finding comprimises, which isn’t the point of a debate. But I don’t think this guy had any intention of debating. The guy just sounded like a Grandpa trying to mediate a fight between too teenagers. To be fair though some of the behaviors were close to teens. But anyways I consider myself solidly on the right, but I can see elements of truth in some of the things people on the left say. In other words, you can have good conversation and have a more nuanced view without being a cuck.
Only male bisexuals, it seems. 🙄 So often sex is reduced to penetration only. Guys can have sex together without it being anal. Women can have sex with each other without requiring penetration. Penetration can be a huge part for many people but it’s not everything. Yet it seems to be the part that throws off so many people who seem to struggle with considering same-sex relationships valid.
@@AVspectre”sex is often reduced to penetration” is so spot on! ive never been with a man but ive slept with plenty of women. a lot of people still believe im a virgin because ive never been penetrated by a dude.
@@karithewarlockditto. And people expect us to qualify it by saying a “well technically” or some shit like that. While I’ve had more sexual partners than them. Lol.
As much as a dumpster fire as this “debate” was, it was really sweet when Tony asked Destiny if he could play fortnite with his son since his kid is a huge gamer.
It's always good to see a dad thinking about his kid...... I just hope he's giving his kid good advice on relationships lol you got to start early! I started telling my son when he was 7 "don't you dare follow your dad into working your life away in that power plant. Get yourself out of this shit hole small town, do not stopp and knock up some local halfwit, before getting your exit key out of here and onto a better life" I told my son everyday that small-town girls are shiftee, they will get pregnant on the sly, to land them the best man out of the bunch. I'm so proud of my son he stayed a virgin until he was eighteen, he only lost his virginity because he was getting shipped off overseas to England with the Air Force. I guess he figured he'd better get that out of the way before he went out to serve the country Parents are so afraid to hurt their kids fragile little feelings. That's because parents these days are raising perpetual children. I on the other hand was raising small people to be fully functioning members of society. I straight up told my children almost on the daily that if they fcked around, and ruined their lives, I would be greatly and hugely disappointed in them! I made them aware from a young age that they are directly responsible for their own lives, and the outcome of said lives. They knew if they failed, that was squarely on their own shoulders and no one else's. I was a parent.... a real parent. I was such a good parent a couple of my kids barely speak to me.... They say I wasn't their friend enough lolol that kind of nonsense talk only comes out of the mouths of daughters! I told those girls, "I'm your mom my job is to parent you not to be your friend. Friends are what you got at school at home you got a mom....... F*king deal with it, and if you don't like how I'm parenting you...... feel free to grow up, get married have a baby and parent the crap out of that child, in whatever way you think you can do it better than I did. And I hope you do, because like all parents I don't know what the hell I'm doing. " Straightforward tough-love no-nonsense kind of parenting...... It'll make your kid successful..... but they might hate you a little bit in the long run. But that's okay lol we moms are the most "hated and blamed for everything" person's on the face of the planet. I mean I haven't looked at the Stats lately, but I'm pretty sure that moms are still blamed for everything-even at a higher rate than the "evil white man" is lolol
@@stepfaniehawkins205 you belittled your son's father for his whole life and tried to stop him from having relationships with other women for 18 years. and he joined the military straight out of high school? i'm not sure that's all that much better than being a power plant operator. hope your relationship with your kids is better than i think it is.
The biggest red flag here (as Tony points out) is that she markets herself as some flavour of therapist and yet exhibits zero compassion, is super judgmental, resorts to petty attacks, pivots constantly, outright makes shit up, etc… You could argue that she’s not like this with actual clients, however, her online presence is also part of how she markets herself. Not a good look. In online conversations or debates, actual therapists are far more measured, objective and never resort to ad hominems…
Reminded me of my ex almost Mother in law. She would cycle through different unbiased fair therapist until she would find one that was unprofessional enough she could basically pay them to tell her she is never wrong and other people are the issue. It's crazy there are a few PhD mental health professionals that will say "Fuck the work/training I'm just doing what the patient wants for $$$". This woman seems like the type to say whatever nonsense for her patients to pay her
Tony is the embodiment of a regular not online person. It was refreshing to have someone like him to show a perspective of what someone who has no interest in these topics/debates (i.e. a normal person) thinks of all this.
@@MeinMummyDustthis is not the word id use to describe him. he’s just nervous about having a controversial opinion and didn’t want to be attacked; he seemed like a fence sitter that was terrified of actually giving an opinion that wasn’t brand friendly
@@DavidJones-ot8qu Nah, he does just seem like a very reasonable person, he doesn't seem like the type of person that would be afraid to speak his mind at all, he actually just seems like a crazy chill ass viber.
That's not even the worst part, she expected Tony to simp for her and anyone could see that. The way she went at the end you have a daughter towards Tony expecting him to defend her view just because she's also a woman funniest shit I have ever seen. Not to forget shes a huge ass clout chaser as soon as she thought she wasn't getting tagged in the video she was talking about it not being worth her time if she wasn't gonna grow her platform to promote her scam business. I'm so glad Tony wasn't having any of it, little disappointed he's friends with someone as scummy as that but it is what it is I guess....
It takes a lot of balls to be brought on by your friend and then utterly destroy them like that on camera and refuse to just say you think she's right.
@@John.T.Yeah? In certain situations honesty takes a lot of balls. Trying to reduce anything down to a single attribute based on limited perspective is vapid, naive oversimplification.
Redpill woman brings up someone's child, complains her child was brought up. Redpill woman complains about white men ganging up on her. Redpill woman says she is being disrespected while using micro-penis insults. Absolutely delusional.
Being a complete hypocrite is part of the job description of being a redpill woman. Same way they say women should be housewives, let their husbands lead, and shut up despite working lucrative careers, not being married, and talking a lot
To be fair a mother can discuss her own child and be weirddd out by others doing it. Same way a woman can post her own nudes on Twitter but it’s illegal if someone else does it without her permission
@@faeiger9215yeah it's about consent. Like a woman can have had sex, and would never want to have sex with you. I'm sure this is a very common occurrence! The mom being mad when others talk about their kids is pretty stupid though.
@@faeiger9215it's more like sending someone you're nudes, then get mad if they comment on them. Or if you post them publicly and get mad that people comment on them publicly. What weird/disingenuous analogy
@@faeiger9215 Stop. You don't bring up something in a discussion, let alone a debate, let alone a heated one - and get mad/shocked/offended when the other party discusses it. She put it on the table herself. And he didn't even say or ask anything offensive about it.
It was like watching someone set themselves on fire...then when you thought it could not get any worse, she travels back in time to pour gasoline on it. Truly horrifying.
Janelle: "don't accuse me of bringing Tony to simp or blindly agree with me" -----*30 minutes later*---- Janelle: "Destiny is laughing at me and the fact that you're not even doing anything and you have a daughter and ex-wife is sad to me" *walks out* 😂😂😂😂😂
Shoutout to Tony, bro. Dude got dragged into some shit that he clearly was not properly briefed on and obliterated Janelle's whole existence by just being there and asking questions to get caught up.
I feel like in any other scenario Tony would be top tier cringe. I mean old dude with bleached hair bragging about his IG followers? But with Janelle on there he seemed like a normal guy lol
@@TonyCox1351 Yeah, maybe. I imagine anyone being introduced as the "Super Dan Bilzerian" or whatever probably has some out there views. But he definitely came into this conversation being non-judgmental and fully objective before anything else, and I appreciate that.
Yeah he was cool. Got a little irritated with him trying to moderate at times, but I tried to chalk it up to the assumption that he doesn’t engage in a lot of online debates.
The funniest moment in the vid is when Tony asked about the redpill. The whole movement is based on turning every dude into a Tony, and the dude who the epitome of it doesn’t know Wtf it is 😂😂😂. It really goes to show that the whole movement is BS.
Watching Jennelle flip from stating she's a right wing conservative, with red pill talking points, to "I'm not going to sit here as a woman, with white men from the patriarchy..." made me giggle out loud & re affirmed everything I had already thought about her from her previous appearances; she's a chameleon clout chaser.
I made it 40 minutes in but I can’t handle it. Between the transparent clout-sharking, straight lying about things she said, grandstanding, and never answering questions… This woman is the most aggravating person destinys ever talked to.
To be fair to her, Destiny wasn't innocent as well, as he's also being bad faith and uncharitable in his takes of her points, taking part in the immature takes and irritating Janelle. Probably there's been beef between Janelle and Destiny since that other debate Alex was in and some things where said there that triggered Destiny.
@@danielnelson3136Still to be fair, she’s had multiple times to calm down and not personally attack Destiny, but she continues to throughout the debate. Not only that, she’s upset at Destiny for thinking that her business is a scam, but then proceeds to explain why it isn’t in the most confusing way, even confusing the person she brought on. In general it just seems like she doesn’t care to defend her character or her business, but instead just attack Destiny’s character, which isn’t a good look since she’s the one that’s upset with Destiny for thinking her business is a scam.
@@danielnelson3136that isn't really sound. Most people would do that if the person they are debating wouldn't have one single objective point. To try to hold someone to that standard when it's not all reciprocated is just bad faith in of itself realistically. As destiny has done this before with others, he will try to be respectful to other debaters, they refuse to give a coherent point, and personally attack him. So instead of just sitting there he plays along with jabs back.
@@Reos-Domain I still will try to be good faith, charitable, and respectful even if Destiny is making snarky comments and character assassinating me. The reasoning why is that metaphysically, and epistemically, to me arguments are hyper codependent onto the arguer and debater who starts and maintains debating and arguing. Arguments need two arguers interlocked into conflict to justify it's existence in the minds of the arguer and followers of those arguers, creating a deep implicit need for that argument's survival. In fact many appeals and fallacies towards ethos, pathos and logos are just that, a mechanism for how an argument itself survives in other minds. Furthermore, due to the murky distinctions between the arguer/argument, the debater/debate, and the faulty assumptions that arguments themselves are tools of truth finding, truth seeking, and truth championing, is disingenuous because the majority of those arguments couldn't exist without bewitching the arguer making that argument, as if the argument itself is like a parasite ghost that infects it's host to parrot and be it's mouth piece to spread and infect and convert as many minds to it's worldviews as possible, which is why sometimes Destiny, this woman, and many other streamers that argue argue passionately and are sometimes emotionally triggered and defensive, because attacking an argument point is akin to attacking the arguer, it's not a bug but a feature of those whole digital environment we're in, where big tech companies and others capitalize and perversely incentivize bad faith communications because it's appealing to our egoic minds rather than to actual truth. I base my commentary on my understanding of developmental factors like Spiral Dynamics stages of development and value systems(by Don Beck), cognitive biases and moral development, personality types and traits(by Myers Briggs personality modal and Big Five personality traits modal), 9 stages of ego development(by Jane Loevinger), Architypes and shadow work(by Carl Jung), states of being/becoming and consciousness, Integral Theory and other lines of development in life and societal domains(by Ken Wilbur), ideological beliefs indoctrinated by family upbringing, culture, mainstream/alternative media, TV, radio, news outlets, social media platforms, community and peer pressures, group think, manufactured consent, and so on that influences self biases and preferences, which creates an internal feedback loop that supports the externalities that influence your intrinsic motivations. I suggest you check out those sources and understand them yourself before replying back, have a good day!
@@danielnelson3136 wow look at you grandstanding, you are taking fault with Destiny from a viewpoint of attacking Destiny you can't do that, not without standing by points anyways... for instance how would Don Beck, Myers Briggs, Jane Loevinger, Carl Jung and Ken Wilbur help you prove that Destiny has a micro penis only using the information that he thinks your (hypothetical) sex coach job is a scam? Also, if I put you in Destiny's shoes how would you answer a person who can't remember what their major argument with you was, got their rich friend on to "debate" you and used an hour to say that their time is precious you are wrong (about who knows what) and to argue you have a micro penis?
Yea it’s crazy because she set this up saying that tony wanted to debate destiny for his disagreements but almost immediately you can tell it’s all a ploy.
Yeah, if she didn’t understand that one she’s just a lost cause at that point. Someone should put a ding on her that says “do not engage in any form of conversation. I will lie and deceive you”.
Felt so bad for Tony trying to translate such a wild convo. “Because I’m a woman” literally just needs to be replaced with “Because I’m immature” and it’s absolutely correct. She’s reinforced to me that growing old != maturing. Reinforces that I want to build a life with a Woman, not a Girl. One of the funniest Destiny videos I’ve caught in a minute. Definitely not what I want to see as the bread and butter if the channel but a gem for sure.
@@Behonkcé She literally SAID she was a conservative…you think i was making a petty insult? And that VERY point is one of the top contended opinions between left and right (in the USA) if you want to get serious..
Never heard of Tony T. before this, but dude seems super fair and reasonable. He also has the superhuman ability (I only call it that because of how sadly rare it is) to not project his personal, subjective opinions/values onto everyone else like all redpillers and Jennelle does. His response to learning about Destiny being in an open relationship is how an actual secure, reasonable human being would/should react: "hey, that lifestyle's not for me, but if that works for you then great." It's also clear how he came to realize how irrational she is.
His first response to hearing about Destiny's open relationship was stating a positive stereotype, which is pretty rare to hear from anyone in general but was especially surprising here he said "Oh i hear people in open relationships have strong marriages" which was kind of cute of him to say, instead of any number of derogatory statements he could have made.
@@JustMark87 He basically said "I wouldn't be comfortable with that, but if that works for you then I'm happy for you," which is based as fuck. He ended up being what Jennelle pretends to be - kind, sex positive and non-judgmental.
@@DavidJones-ot8qu Of all the guys to call Destiny a cuck, I think he's the first one to actually acknowledge that Destiny sleeps around too. It kinda sounded like he was mixing up open relationships with swingers, and clearly didn't understand all of the things being talked about. Which made his open-mindedness extra sweet.
Tony is a cool normie, dude; but he is also extremely horny and Jennelle is attractive. You don’t exactly need to split the atom to see why he is mixed up with her
She says she is red pill/Conservative leaning, but some of the things she was saying goes completely against those ideals to the point that if she said that to people on her side, they would roast her, boot her, etc. Could you imagine her telling Fresh and Fit they don't know about a particular topic about women because they are both men and that they should just be quiet and listen to her?
@@johnbrooks756 Yeah, I actually could. For example, if I wanted to know how to get my channel demonetized I could imagine they can give me a few pointers.
@@nicklasveva You have a very rational and masculine point, but I wasn't expecting rationality from her. A very, very small percentage was due to her being a woman, but most of it was because she's red pill.
Her phone died right after she says "i bid you a farewell" ??? I think she realized Tony was against her and she wanted to be closer for manipulation because someone is way less likely to disagree or be confrontational if youre in front of them.
The fact that she's literally constantly bringing up handicaps of race and gender and this and that is un freaking real. She can say quite literally anything she wants but if there is anything brought against her she's using her non-factoring differences to shield herself from any kind of criticism
And they used to shit on libs for identity politics but they use it as much as they need. Beliefs are tools to these people, not genuinely held at all.
As someone that actively tries to be empathetic to both race and gender, that shit got old hella fast. Every other sentence was about how "3 white males, wait you're not white, are attacking a single mom" blah blah. Are they handing out sympathy points somewhere
It's purely a defense mechanism. She isn't woke except when she thinks it will get her sympathy points. So many red flags suggesting she's a con artist
Janelle came off so poorly. She constantly attacked Destiny and called him names while attacking his character, while crying theyre doing the same thing to her. What world does this woman live in? 😂
This dude is funny cuz he represents like what the actual “alpha” male would be and turns out he’s just a dude who works hard and is super normal. No snake oil bull shit about what men have to do. I disagree with this dude probably on what he said about me too and he’s prolly conservative, but outwardly this dude comes off as superbly normal.
@@paulx6755 maybe its just because i am online and autisticly watch trends and shit, but the way that he GENUINELY had like no idea what the redpill is or things like that just show that he IS an alpha male lol. an alpha male isnt a male that copies what the other successful alpha males do, they just do THEMSELVES and dont care about others. also the way he is like willing to throw away a friendship to AGREE with a random internet guy who is adversarial to his real life friend under the guise of "i am a man of the truth" was maybe the most alpha male thing I have ever witnessed lol talk about integrity also when she was getting grilled about the non profit thing and her "golden seal" you could genuinely see the gears in tonys head turning and you could see on his face he was going "wait is this bitch just lying about her entire life" lol because you can tell tony will believe almost anything someone tells him because hes so positive. he probably genuinely thinks everything that jennelle has told him about her life is true and you can literally see him questioning it all lmao
@@twocheezitz9182I fucking lost it at the national television part. Or when he pointed at destiny and said: that right there sucks sick! But he somehow meant it in a good way? Absolute fucking legend.
Jennelle is making it really hard for herself. She’s prone to defensiveness, but the thing that got to me the most was her using the word “loose walls.” Also said “he has a micro-penis” “it looks like he likes to get pegged” Then she has the audacity to say Destiny is saying derogatory things about HER business. It’s immature and just embarrassing.
Destiny didn't even have to do anything from a 50-50 shot at her being a scammer, and the room went from being uncertain she was a scammer, to being 70%+ sure she was a scammer based on her boxing with shadows lmao
I know literally nothing else about this woman, Based on this "debate" alone, this woman seems like a grifter. Tony Robbins "Investing in her company" turned out to be him giving her tickets to his seminars and then she tried to change the common understanding of what occurs when someone invests in your company. Extremely misleading. Couple that with the Tony guy having to tell the "therapist" that a disagreement isn't an attack gives credence that shes a just tiktok doc; sound bite deep; profound in 140 characters or less
I don't get why noone calls Jenelle out for the vagina change thing.. Sure, hormons and all that shit make womens body change.. But the change is absolutely minimal and for most people 99.9999% it'll have no relevance whatsoever. It was so irrelevant, and she made it a much bigger thing than it is.. With how she explained it, it sounds like it's a complete remodel, gspot and everything, it's insane
I wished they had a Gynecologist on this call. almost every time she answers a question it is either personal attacks and talking nonsense. She has a massive chip on her shoulders.
It is true that the more $3x u have the looser u are though. And it is true that women try to act like thats not the case so men dont preffer virgins. And yes it is true that the more partners a woman has the bigger d she has encountered and been with for a long time. So the looser she is. And promiscuous women obviously have mire $3x. They never stop. Making a non promiscuous woman tighter. And it is true that women wanna deny that so once again men dont have standards they dont fit. So in the end, destiny just is better at arguing, but she was right
@@stoneheart_raven Oh I would pay to see her meltdown when a medical professional straight up refutes her bullshit. Facts and science are the enemy of woo woo scammers.
I don't know this Tony guy but dude made me tear up with his question "so a pssy that looks like roast beef can be fix to be the perfect little pssy?" Trying to hold in the out loud laughter and tears from that xD
Props to Alex for staying neutral, bro kept catching strays. Apparently that blank stoic stare makes him look as threatening as an easter island statue. Keep that fire coming brother @playingwithfirechannel
I love how she says how it is to be a white male but then says they have no idea what it’s like to be a non white female. The hypocrisy! She also used the expression throwing rocks into a glass house.
I love how Tony is like Wtf is the red pill movement? Goes to show real go getters handling their business in real world than roasting their brains on toxic online communities.
OMG he is like a Dad having a tough love argument with his daughter. She is literally making therapist and women look like unhinged people. It’s insane that she hurls insults towards Destiny but he makes a counterpoint mixed with sarcasm and she resorts to using the POC card. As if Destiny isn’t also a women of color 😳
dude that's like half of all women online lmao, considering their default response to criticism is any variation of "you'll never touch a woman" or "you're ugly/you look like an incel"
nah, his incoherent self congratulatory rambling got genuinely hard to listen to very quickly. idk why everyone here is simping so hard for him. i guess bc he’s contradicting janelle lmao
@@Kenpachi_White707i think if ur not socially retarded it’s pretty apparent that he’s being brand-friendly and trying to ride a fence. when ppl say shit like “THIS GUY HERE SUCKS DICK” and “well you know, he’s gay which i don’t like or support, but i love all ppl!” then u can usually infer they’re just being PC as to not get harmed by ramifications of their real opinions
Tony sounds like the dude who swears hes saying something really wise about political issues but is really just so wealthy he’s more isolated than he realizes.
1. Love Tony. Logical, nice, funny, and called her out on her bullshit. 2. How is a sex therapist so judgmental over sexual orientation, open relationships, penis size, etc. 3. I love how by her logical in investment, she goes to a restaurant, pays for her food, and that would be her investing in the restaurant business 😅
and he is entitled to thinking that and living this life that way just like how you probably want to live your life as gay. He said its wrong but doesn't hate people for being gay. what am i missing?@@Shoxie_g
@@Shoxie_ghe thinks it's wrong personally but he isn't spewing it out at gay people shaming them is the point. He has an opinion but he isn't making other people suffer over it
@@Shoxie_g He literally said, "everyone has the right to live the way the live." when talking about gay people. How is that not open-minded? Maybe you are the close-minded one.
At the start I dismissed Tony, and I was wrong, as he was a really cool dude in this show, I really grew to like him. I hope Destiny games with his son.
She’s not Redpill. Plus, she keeps using “I’m a single mother” excuse for whenever they disagree and she acts likes she’s a “survivor”. It was her choice and her mistakes that let her to being a single mother. No accountability.
One thing I've learned from personal debates and watching debates is you can't threaten to leave and then stay. If you're done you're done. Otherwise you're just owning yourself
Holy shit this was the best. I have never enjoyed and laughed out loud in a while from a debate. Great job Destiny and Alex. Thanks for the primo content.
I love when fake therapists aka “life/sex coaches whatever” get exposed. Janelle is insufferable with her pseudoscience and judgmental attitude. She absolutely deserves this.
She deserves a real SmackDown, the kind that only a woman could give her. Sometimes men are just too nice to these stupid women. Only a woman knows how to knock a bich down a few pegs...... Properly!
I think she might be one of those who's genuinely deluded about it and thinks she's actually an expert in something, but it's the little things like the throwing in random words and then going "That's Sanskrit for penis". Any time someone throws out an obscure term and it makes no sense as to why they wouldn't use a common term. She doesn't give any technical reason for it, it's completely unnecessary, it's just there to obscure that she's not saying anything interesting and make her sound educated.
I loved that she completely ignored the "male g spot" being up their ass when saying a man doesnt have an "inside sexual" whatever thing she was going on about
My favorite part was when she said, "You don't have a vagina, you don't know how it works." I would like her to say that in the face of a male OB-GYN, lololol.
Im 50 years old and have seen a lot over the years, I've got to tell you, These podcasts are way better than the olden timey soap operas. Young and the restless has nothing on Destiny and his podcast.
@@stepfaniehawkins205 Oh i agree sir, it's very entertaining and i had some good laughs. But this girl is barely hitting 50 IQ and sadly has a platform to infect young women and men with her brain rot 😥
And 2 minutes later “I never said there’s no such a thing as bisexual… it’s Just, I’m my opinion, because men’s thing is on the outside”. 😂😂😂 this woman is unbelievable 🤦🏽♀️
Tony was such a sweetheart. Dude was chill af and was ACTUALLY listening which was really surprising. At the beginning I was worried about Tony cuz I thought him trying to calm things down he was going to cuck the content but he was based af. This Jennelle lady tho.... she actually seems very much like scamah lmao
Tony can reach Jenelle because he talks to her as if she's a child. The more she talks, the worse she makes herself look and she's completely unaware of it. She's not a scammer because she fully bought into whatever scam she's peddling. To be so dim and petulant of a person and to still make money warrants respect, somehow.
I was kinda thinking that too. Like if she said any of these things as a dude, no one would have been charitable toward her. She’s getting treated unbelievably well for how delusional she is
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FINALLY, you TAGGED HER LMAO
She'll find a way to complain about being tagged, guaranteed 😂
hijacking this comment to say if you're wondering whether watching this is worth even if you havent heard of these other 2, it is defs worth it. for the laughs at least, not so much for any wisdom or knowledge
lol she has been tagged
We fear this tag down here. We feel it’ll make our job too easy
Came in expecting Tony to be this weird red pill character. He ended up just being an innocent normie who doesn't judge anyone's lifestyle choices. Cool dude.
Ikr, what a chill guy
I knew he was a Chad when he said, "what's the red pill?" 😂
He actually kind of annoyed me. Not so much because of his opinions, but his approach. Being a normie doesn’t mean you don’t have opinions or views on things. This guy came off to me like he was avoiding conflict and just trying to get along by playing the middle-of-the-road kind of guy and finding comprimises, which isn’t the point of a debate. But I don’t think this guy had any intention of debating. The guy just sounded like a Grandpa trying to mediate a fight between too teenagers. To be fair though some of the behaviors were close to teens.
But anyways I consider myself solidly on the right, but I can see elements of truth in some of the things people on the left say. In other words, you can have good conversation and have a more nuanced view without being a cuck.
@@adox8574it’s called neutrality
@adox8574 did you miss the whole point where he gave his opinion on destiny being gay and sucking d?
A sex coach that doesn't believe in bisexuals. That's crazy.
Only male bisexuals, it seems. 🙄
So often sex is reduced to penetration only. Guys can have sex together without it being anal. Women can have sex with each other without requiring penetration. Penetration can be a huge part for many people but it’s not everything. Yet it seems to be the part that throws off so many people who seem to struggle with considering same-sex relationships valid.
I know! As a bisexual man I literally spit out my drink. We’re here, we’re queer and we also eat pussy.
@@AVspectre”sex is often reduced to penetration” is so spot on! ive never been with a man but ive slept with plenty of women. a lot of people still believe im a virgin because ive never been penetrated by a dude.
@@karithewarlockditto. And people expect us to qualify it by saying a “well technically” or some shit like that. While I’ve had more sexual partners than them. Lol.
@@karithewarlockmany gay men don't even have anal sex or like it.
As much as a dumpster fire as this “debate” was, it was really sweet when Tony asked Destiny if he could play fortnite with his son since his kid is a huge gamer.
That really warmed my heart too!
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It's always good to see a dad thinking about his kid...... I just hope he's giving his kid good advice on relationships lol you got to start early! I started telling my son when he was 7 "don't you dare follow your dad into working your life away in that power plant. Get yourself out of this shit hole small town, do not stopp and knock up some local halfwit, before getting your exit key out of here and onto a better life"
I told my son everyday that small-town girls are shiftee, they will get pregnant on the sly, to land them the best man out of the bunch.
I'm so proud of my son he stayed a virgin until he was eighteen, he only lost his virginity because he was getting shipped off overseas to England with the Air Force. I guess he figured he'd better get that out of the way before he went out to serve the country
Parents are so afraid to hurt their kids fragile little feelings. That's because parents these days are raising perpetual children.
I on the other hand was raising small people to be fully functioning members of society. I straight up told my children almost on the daily that if they fcked around, and ruined their lives, I would be greatly and hugely disappointed in them!
I made them aware from a young age that they are directly responsible for their own lives, and the outcome of said lives.
They knew if they failed, that was squarely on their own shoulders and no one else's.
I was a parent.... a real parent. I was such a good parent a couple of my kids barely speak to me.... They say I wasn't their friend enough lolol that kind of nonsense talk only comes out of the mouths of daughters!
I told those girls, "I'm your mom my job is to parent you not to be your friend. Friends are what you got at school at home you got a mom....... F*king deal with it, and if you don't like how I'm parenting you...... feel free to grow up, get married have a baby and parent the crap out of that child, in whatever way you think you can do it better than I did. And I hope you do, because like all parents I don't know what the hell I'm doing. "
Straightforward tough-love no-nonsense kind of parenting...... It'll make your kid successful..... but they might hate you a little bit in the long run.
But that's okay lol we moms are the most "hated and blamed for everything" person's on the face of the planet.
I mean I haven't looked at the Stats lately, but I'm pretty sure that moms are still blamed for everything-even at a higher rate than the "evil white man" is lolol
Timestamp please?
@@stepfaniehawkins205 you belittled your son's father for his whole life and tried to stop him from having relationships with other women for 18 years. and he joined the military straight out of high school? i'm not sure that's all that much better than being a power plant operator. hope your relationship with your kids is better than i think it is.
The biggest red flag here (as Tony points out) is that she markets herself as some flavour of therapist and yet exhibits zero compassion, is super judgmental, resorts to petty attacks, pivots constantly, outright makes shit up, etc… You could argue that she’s not like this with actual clients, however, her online presence is also part of how she markets herself. Not a good look. In online conversations or debates, actual therapists are far more measured, objective and never resort to ad hominems…
The biggest red flag here is that she’s incompetent, internally misogynistic, and generally annoying.
Don’t forget the homophobia!
Reminded me of my ex almost Mother in law. She would cycle through different unbiased fair therapist until she would find one that was unprofessional enough she could basically pay them to tell her she is never wrong and other people are the issue. It's crazy there are a few PhD mental health professionals that will say "Fuck the work/training I'm just doing what the patient wants for $$$".
This woman seems like the type to say whatever nonsense for her patients to pay her
Onlyfans coming soon.. Thisnis all just a build up for her to drop a onlyfans 😂 i 100% believe that
A sex therapist that cant say penis and vagina. She said eggplant at one point
Tony is the embodiment of a regular not online person. It was refreshing to have someone like him to show a perspective of what someone who has no interest in these topics/debates (i.e. a normal person) thinks of all this.
tony needs to let others talk.
Im so happy Janelle is technologically illiterate or else she would be an actual orbiter and all our brains would melt
True
😅 really dodged that bullet
She's nicer to look at than most orbiters tbh.
She looks like mumbo jumbo from banjo kazooie
@@jamesnite2157😂😂😂 fire comment
Jannelle expecting and trying to bait backup while Tony just continues to be an aggressively reasonable person is peak comedy
Tony is real af
Aggresively reasonable is the perfect way to describe how he was here kek
@@MeinMummyDustthis is not the word id use to describe him. he’s just nervous about having a controversial opinion and didn’t want to be attacked; he seemed like a fence sitter that was terrified of actually giving an opinion that wasn’t brand friendly
@@DavidJones-ot8qu Nah, he does just seem like a very reasonable person, he doesn't seem like the type of person that would be afraid to speak his mind at all, he actually just seems like a crazy chill ass viber.
That's not even the worst part, she expected Tony to simp for her and anyone could see that. The way she went at the end you have a daughter towards Tony expecting him to defend her view just because she's also a woman funniest shit I have ever seen. Not to forget shes a huge ass clout chaser as soon as she thought she wasn't getting tagged in the video she was talking about it not being worth her time if she wasn't gonna grow her platform to promote her scam business. I'm so glad Tony wasn't having any of it, little disappointed he's friends with someone as scummy as that but it is what it is I guess....
The funniest thing about this debate is the fact that she legit thinks Destiny teaches his fan base anything about gaming.
😂
He taught me only degenerate scum play league.
im bronze in league thanks to Destiny's teaching
@@trey3284 lol seriously though does Destiny play league?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 WE ARE ALL DYING IN HERE
Imagine having her as a therapist. People need their money back.
I'm convinced a significant amount of therapist are insane, he has ran into a couple and I've heard of others elsewhere.
Wdym? She's helped 100s of 1000s of couples. 😂
@@drewrobitaille7989which is fine. But she's online giving sex advice like her son and his friends won't see this and judge her.
@@drewrobitaille7989if she was so concerned about promiscuity she would be a private sex therapist. Not broadcasting it embarrassing her son
It takes a lot of balls to be brought on by your friend and then utterly destroy them like that on camera and refuse to just say you think she's right.
she’s deserved it even if he is her friend who would agree with that
Wtf it take honesty and that’s it.
Balls have nothing to do with it…
If your friend is wrong; your friend is wrong.
@@John.T.Yeah? In certain situations honesty takes a lot of balls. Trying to reduce anything down to a single attribute based on limited perspective is vapid, naive oversimplification.
@@bul166
The initial comment specified the parameters:
A friend being honest with a friend.
☝️What takes balls here?
@@John.T.
Having the courage to do so ?
Lots of people are not comfortable confronting their friends
If she actually knew anything about Destiny she would know that there is actually zero to learn from him about gaming.
We are helping him when he has questions, lol
He’s getting old, he can’t keep up with games anymore 😢
Or cooking
@@pepelechad536 same tho, maybe thats why i like watching him, haha!
She would also not say he is a white man since we all know Destiny is a girls name
Redpill woman brings up someone's child, complains her child was brought up. Redpill woman complains about white men ganging up on her. Redpill woman says she is being disrespected while using micro-penis insults. Absolutely delusional.
Redpill women act just like the very same “modern women” they pass judgment on, given the right circumstances
Being a complete hypocrite is part of the job description of being a redpill woman. Same way they say women should be housewives, let their husbands lead, and shut up despite working lucrative careers, not being married, and talking a lot
lmao yeah, redpill women are suddenly super upset about misogyny as soon as a man makes them look bad...
She got Brittany Simon energy 😂
bruh she's not redpill... this woman is such a grifter , i think even Pearl is like : damn girl
She literally seethes over every single throwaway joke Destiny makes; it's actually hilarious. She's such perfect lolcow material.
lolcow is so right
imagine the mental deterioration we could witness
LITERALLY! 😅
She literally called her babysitter to prove to destiny how she’s not full time, you can’t make this shit up
@@chrismills7703 best part was when she asked "your *son* son?"
@@ts4gvI still don’t get what that was supposed to mean. It was such a weird phrasing.
Damn, I didn't expect Tony to be such a wholesome person. The anti-Tate
Him butting in and talking to janelle like she’s a child he is disappointed in had my dying
I felt really bad for Tony. We have all had a friend call us in for backup just for us to realise they they are 100% the one in the wrong.
Jennelle > Brings up her child unprompted multiple times.
Also Jennelle > Gets upset that her child is being discussed.
To be fair a mother can discuss her own child and be weirddd out by others doing it.
Same way a woman can post her own nudes on Twitter but it’s illegal if someone else does it without her permission
@@faeiger9215yeah it's about consent. Like a woman can have had sex, and would never want to have sex with you. I'm sure this is a very common occurrence!
The mom being mad when others talk about their kids is pretty stupid though.
@@faeiger9215it's more like sending someone you're nudes, then get mad if they comment on them. Or if you post them publicly and get mad that people comment on them publicly.
What weird/disingenuous analogy
@@faeiger9215 Stop. You don't bring up something in a discussion, let alone a debate, let alone a heated one - and get mad/shocked/offended when the other party discusses it. She put it on the table herself. And he didn't even say or ask anything offensive about it.
@@faeiger9215 It's not even remotely like that
The title is misleading. This is NOT 2v1. This is 1v1.
Jenelle VS herself.
and she's losing, badly🤣🤣
You’re so right
Playing Mexican basketball. A little Juan on Juan
Saved thousands of marriages but couldn’t save her own
Often the case.
Hundreds of thousands*
"Ironic, isn't it?"
I just spit my orange juice out reading this
Even I spit out of my mouth
It was like watching someone set themselves on fire...then when you thought it could not get any worse, she travels back in time to pour gasoline on it. Truly horrifying.
Jannelle can never loose a debate to a white person of any gender , a man of any race . She is the most identity politics conservative .
Janelle: "don't accuse me of bringing Tony to simp or blindly agree with me"
-----*30 minutes later*----
Janelle: "Destiny is laughing at me and the fact that you're not even doing anything and you have a daughter and ex-wife is sad to me"
*walks out*
😂😂😂😂😂
You can’t make this shi up
Shoutout to Tony, bro. Dude got dragged into some shit that he clearly was not properly briefed on and obliterated Janelle's whole existence by just being there and asking questions to get caught up.
he's definitely a bit more old school, but definitely was super good about sticking to being honest, even with Shiva screeching next to him
Fr i wouldnt even care about tony but since he had that janelle in person and stood his ground was commendable
I feel like in any other scenario Tony would be top tier cringe. I mean old dude with bleached hair bragging about his IG followers? But with Janelle on there he seemed like a normal guy lol
@@TonyCox1351 Yeah, maybe. I imagine anyone being introduced as the "Super Dan Bilzerian" or whatever probably has some out there views. But he definitely came into this conversation being non-judgmental and fully objective before anything else, and I appreciate that.
I think she thought this was gunna go WAYYY differently lmao she seemed so upset anytime he asked any question
Tony had the energy of a guy whose girlfriend demanded he defend her honor and is trying his best to survive the encounter.
He had a bit more integrity than most guys in that situation, I think
but he clearly knows his girlfriend was the one who started it
Halfway through Destiny talking to this woman on Jubilee I finally recognized her and now I'm losing my shit
On behalf of someone who enjoys this type of content, thank you Janelle for being so ambitious.
Vaguely knowing who Tony was, I would’ve never thought he would’ve won this debate, but he did. He won all of our hearts.
Same, I used to keep up with tony when he was best friends with Dan, no clue what they fell out about but big props to him for growing on his own
@@burneyburneydestiny's Dan?
20 minutes in and I love this guy already, she brought him in as backup and he's just being super neutral and 100% reasonable throughout everything 😂😂
@@tramarthomas6105Dan bilzerian
tony has always been chill
Tony passes all sorts of vibe checks, he seems like such an honest everyman, his live and let live attitude is very positive.
Bro was the best part of the video lol, didn’t care at all about the debate. “Pussy?? Elaborate!”
He is like the meme of giggachad not knowing what a podcast is
Yeah he was cool. Got a little irritated with him trying to moderate at times, but I tried to chalk it up to the assumption that he doesn’t engage in a lot of online debates.
The funniest moment in the vid is when Tony asked about the redpill. The whole movement is based on turning every dude into a Tony, and the dude who the epitome of it doesn’t know Wtf it is 😂😂😂. It really goes to show that the whole movement is BS.
If the redpill was truly turning people into tonys id sign up immediately. What a gigachad
Watching Jennelle flip from stating she's a right wing conservative, with red pill talking points, to "I'm not going to sit here as a woman, with white men from the patriarchy..." made me giggle out loud & re affirmed everything I had already thought about her from her previous appearances; she's a chameleon clout chaser.
I made it 40 minutes in but I can’t handle it. Between the transparent clout-sharking, straight lying about things she said, grandstanding, and never answering questions… This woman is the most aggravating person destinys ever talked to.
Janelle non stop personally attacks Destiny
Also Janelle: all he does is put people down
To be fair to her, Destiny wasn't innocent as well, as he's also being bad faith and uncharitable in his takes of her points, taking part in the immature takes and irritating Janelle. Probably there's been beef between Janelle and Destiny since that other debate Alex was in and some things where said there that triggered Destiny.
@@danielnelson3136Still to be fair, she’s had multiple times to calm down and not personally attack Destiny, but she continues to throughout the debate. Not only that, she’s upset at Destiny for thinking that her business is a scam, but then proceeds to explain why it isn’t in the most confusing way, even confusing the person she brought on. In general it just seems like she doesn’t care to defend her character or her business, but instead just attack Destiny’s character, which isn’t a good look since she’s the one that’s upset with Destiny for thinking her business is a scam.
@@danielnelson3136that isn't really sound. Most people would do that if the person they are debating wouldn't have one single objective point. To try to hold someone to that standard when it's not all reciprocated is just bad faith in of itself realistically. As destiny has done this before with others, he will try to be respectful to other debaters, they refuse to give a coherent point, and personally attack him. So instead of just sitting there he plays along with jabs back.
@@Reos-Domain I still will try to be good faith, charitable, and respectful even if Destiny is making snarky comments and character assassinating me. The reasoning why is that metaphysically, and epistemically, to me arguments are hyper codependent onto the arguer and debater who starts and maintains debating and arguing. Arguments need two arguers interlocked into conflict to justify it's existence in the minds of the arguer and followers of those arguers, creating a deep implicit need for that argument's survival. In fact many appeals and fallacies towards ethos, pathos and logos are just that, a mechanism for how an argument itself survives in other minds. Furthermore, due to the murky distinctions between the arguer/argument, the debater/debate, and the faulty assumptions that arguments themselves are tools of truth finding, truth seeking, and truth championing, is disingenuous because the majority of those arguments couldn't exist without bewitching the arguer making that argument, as if the argument itself is like a parasite ghost that infects it's host to parrot and be it's mouth piece to spread and infect and convert as many minds to it's worldviews as possible, which is why sometimes Destiny, this woman, and many other streamers that argue argue passionately and are sometimes emotionally triggered and defensive, because attacking an argument point is akin to attacking the arguer, it's not a bug but a feature of those whole digital environment we're in, where big tech companies and others capitalize and perversely incentivize bad faith communications because it's appealing to our egoic minds rather than to actual truth.
I base my commentary on my understanding of developmental factors like Spiral Dynamics stages of development and value systems(by Don Beck), cognitive biases and moral development, personality types and traits(by Myers Briggs personality modal and Big Five personality traits modal), 9 stages of ego development(by Jane Loevinger), Architypes and shadow work(by Carl Jung), states of being/becoming and consciousness, Integral Theory and other lines of development in life and societal domains(by Ken Wilbur), ideological beliefs indoctrinated by family upbringing, culture, mainstream/alternative media, TV, radio, news outlets, social media platforms, community and peer pressures, group think, manufactured consent, and so on that influences self biases and preferences, which creates an internal feedback loop that supports the externalities that influence your intrinsic motivations. I suggest you check out those sources and understand them yourself before replying back, have a good day!
@@danielnelson3136 wow look at you grandstanding, you are taking fault with Destiny from a viewpoint of attacking Destiny you can't do that, not without standing by points anyways... for instance how would Don Beck, Myers Briggs, Jane Loevinger, Carl Jung and Ken Wilbur help you prove that Destiny has a micro penis only using the information that he thinks your (hypothetical) sex coach job is a scam? Also, if I put you in Destiny's shoes how would you answer a person who can't remember what their major argument with you was, got their rich friend on to "debate" you and used an hour to say that their time is precious you are wrong (about who knows what) and to argue you have a micro penis?
Felt like an attempt at an ambush then Tony said, "I don't know why I am here." and the lady spiraled out into nothing. Wonderful too see.
Yea it’s crazy because she set this up saying that tony wanted to debate destiny for his disagreements but almost immediately you can tell it’s all a ploy.
She was there the whole time. This is wild.
It was very satisfying to watch. Tony seems like a normal rational guy.
“You don’t have a very high opinion of me as a woman”
“No I don’t have a very high opinion of you as a person”
Lmao…
Yeah, if she didn’t understand that one she’s just a lost cause at that point. Someone should put a ding on her that says “do not engage in any form of conversation. I will lie and deceive you”.
Felt so bad for Tony trying to translate such a wild convo. “Because I’m a woman” literally just needs to be replaced with “Because I’m immature” and it’s absolutely correct. She’s reinforced to me that growing old != maturing. Reinforces that I want to build a life with a Woman, not a Girl.
One of the funniest Destiny videos I’ve caught in a minute. Definitely not what I want to see as the bread and butter if the channel but a gem for sure.
Did she actually claim to have written two books in one day? 🤣
i'm getting secondhand embarrassment cause tony is so reasonable. Jennelle really should have prewatched this debate
She’s embarassing
She’s a “conservative” but cries victim about race and gender from the start?! 🤦🏻♀️
That’s kinda their thing
@@Justin-fb9irnot so much tbh, and I'm on the left.
Is it an American thing to brand everyone not left as Conservative? Or "trad" ?
The cringiest part of the whole thing
@@Behonkcé She literally SAID she was a conservative…you think i was making a petty insult? And that VERY point is one of the top contended opinions between left and right (in the USA) if you want to get serious..
Never heard of Tony T. before this, but dude seems super fair and reasonable. He also has the superhuman ability (I only call it that because of how sadly rare it is) to not project his personal, subjective opinions/values onto everyone else like all redpillers and Jennelle does. His response to learning about Destiny being in an open relationship is how an actual secure, reasonable human being would/should react: "hey, that lifestyle's not for me, but if that works for you then great." It's also clear how he came to realize how irrational she is.
His first response to hearing about Destiny's open relationship was stating a positive stereotype, which is pretty rare to hear from anyone in general but was especially surprising here he said "Oh i hear people in open relationships have strong marriages" which was kind of cute of him to say, instead of any number of derogatory statements he could have made.
@@JustMark87then the first question he asks was whether or not destiny is a cuck lmao
@@JustMark87 He basically said "I wouldn't be comfortable with that, but if that works for you then I'm happy for you," which is based as fuck. He ended up being what Jennelle pretends to be - kind, sex positive and non-judgmental.
@@DavidJones-ot8qu Of all the guys to call Destiny a cuck, I think he's the first one to actually acknowledge that Destiny sleeps around too.
It kinda sounded like he was mixing up open relationships with swingers, and clearly didn't understand all of the things being talked about. Which made his open-mindedness extra sweet.
Tony is so sweet and wholesome and innocent, how he got mixed up with someone as toxic as Jennelle I have no clue.
Tony is a cool normie, dude; but he is also extremely horny and Jennelle is attractive. You don’t exactly need to split the atom to see why he is mixed up with her
They aren’t together
Tony is the wholesome motivational uncle I wish I had lmao. He’s such a breath of fresh air.
She says she is red pill/Conservative leaning, but some of the things she was saying goes completely against those ideals to the point that if she said that to people on her side, they would roast her, boot her, etc. Could you imagine her telling Fresh and Fit they don't know about a particular topic about women because they are both men and that they should just be quiet and listen to her?
She was a feminist for this debate
She's a woman. What do you expect? Rationality?
Could you imagine listening to fresh and fit for advice about anything?
@@johnbrooks756 Yeah, I actually could. For example, if I wanted to know how to get my channel demonetized I could imagine they can give me a few pointers.
@@nicklasveva You have a very rational and masculine point, but I wasn't expecting rationality from her. A very, very small percentage was due to her being a woman, but most of it was because she's red pill.
ALEX UNDERAPPRECIATED FOR GETTING THESE CHARACTERS TOGETHER
Alex is unironically one of the best people destiny's met in recent years.
He's pretty fun, can disagree respectfully, and helps meet others.
@@BrendanishLeoHe’s one of the few people that’s more interested in what somebody means than the semantics
I did a total 180 on Alex. I saw him in one debate and he seemed ultra condescending but every interaction since, he's been cool.
Best panel host
@@capcaptainmycaptain4771he’s dumb but alright
Poor tony having to realize in real time that his friend is nuts 😂
Her phone died right after she says "i bid you a farewell" ???
I think she realized Tony was against her and she wanted to be closer for manipulation because someone is way less likely to disagree or be confrontational if youre in front of them.
The fact that she's literally constantly bringing up handicaps of race and gender and this and that is un freaking real. She can say quite literally anything she wants but if there is anything brought against her she's using her non-factoring differences to shield herself from any kind of criticism
And they used to shit on libs for identity politics but they use it as much as they need. Beliefs are tools to these people, not genuinely held at all.
As someone that actively tries to be empathetic to both race and gender, that shit got old hella fast. Every other sentence was about how "3 white males, wait you're not white, are attacking a single mom" blah blah. Are they handing out sympathy points somewhere
@@JFromTheLandOfHella right. And the irony of how conservative she is with most of her thoughts.
It's purely a defense mechanism. She isn't woke except when she thinks it will get her sympathy points. So many red flags suggesting she's a con artist
She isn't really conservative in case u still haven't figured it out. She's just an opportunistic scammer. @@Skratch63
Janelle came off so poorly. She constantly attacked Destiny and called him names while attacking his character, while crying theyre doing the same thing to her. What world does this woman live in? 😂
A Matriarchy.
That's that redpill in her
This dude is funny cuz he represents like what the actual “alpha” male would be and turns out he’s just a dude who works hard and is super normal. No snake oil bull shit about what men have to do. I disagree with this dude probably on what he said about me too and he’s prolly conservative, but outwardly this dude comes off as superbly normal.
it was also so funny when he was like "we are on national television" you can tell hes not some internet alpha hes just a real dude
@@paulx6755 maybe its just because i am online and autisticly watch trends and shit, but the way that he GENUINELY had like no idea what the redpill is or things like that just show that he IS an alpha male lol.
an alpha male isnt a male that copies what the other successful alpha males do, they just do THEMSELVES and dont care about others.
also the way he is like willing to throw away a friendship to AGREE with a random internet guy who is adversarial to his real life friend under the guise of "i am a man of the truth" was maybe the most alpha male thing I have ever witnessed lol talk about integrity
also when she was getting grilled about the non profit thing and her "golden seal" you could genuinely see the gears in tonys head turning and you could see on his face he was going "wait is this bitch just lying about her entire life" lol because you can tell tony will believe almost anything someone tells him because hes so positive. he probably genuinely thinks everything that jennelle has told him about her life is true and you can literally see him questioning it all lmao
@@twocheezitz9182I fucking lost it at the national television part. Or when he pointed at destiny and said: that right there sucks sick! But he somehow meant it in a good way? Absolute fucking legend.
This post and replies are the golden take away from the convo
@@iep6228 yeah hes so obliviously to internet culture that its amazing he so successful, hes seems like an idiot but i know he isnt.
Jennelle is making it really hard for herself. She’s prone to defensiveness, but the thing that got to me the most was her using the word “loose walls.” Also said “he has a micro-penis” “it looks like he likes to get pegged”
Then she has the audacity to say Destiny is saying derogatory things about HER business. It’s immature and just embarrassing.
She really came in with the energy of someone offended during an interview and was packing her things to go the entire time.
Destiny didn't even have to do anything from a 50-50 shot at her being a scammer, and the room went from being uncertain she was a scammer, to being 70%+ sure she was a scammer based on her boxing with shadows lmao
But she wrote two books in 24hr
@@tesselate8nowait262 naturally it is easier to write two books in that time and it's really hard to pack 3 days in advance.
I know literally nothing else about this woman, Based on this "debate" alone, this woman seems like a grifter. Tony Robbins "Investing in her company" turned out to be him giving her tickets to his seminars and then she tried to change the common understanding of what occurs when someone invests in your company. Extremely misleading. Couple that with the Tony guy having to tell the "therapist" that a disagreement isn't an attack gives credence that shes a just tiktok doc; sound bite deep; profound in 140 characters or less
I don't get why noone calls Jenelle out for the vagina change thing.. Sure, hormons and all that shit make womens body change.. But the change is absolutely minimal and for most people 99.9999% it'll have no relevance whatsoever.
It was so irrelevant, and she made it a much bigger thing than it is.. With how she explained it, it sounds like it's a complete remodel, gspot and everything, it's insane
I wished they had a Gynecologist on this call. almost every time she answers a question it is either personal attacks and talking nonsense. She has a massive chip on her shoulders.
@@stoneheart_raventhis is her personal pref- …opinion.
It is true that the more $3x u have the looser u are though. And it is true that women try to act like thats not the case so men dont preffer virgins. And yes it is true that the more partners a woman has the bigger d she has encountered and been with for a long time. So the looser she is. And promiscuous women obviously have mire $3x. They never stop. Making a non promiscuous woman tighter. And it is true that women wanna deny that so once again men dont have standards they dont fit. So in the end, destiny just is better at arguing, but she was right
You dont know about the semi-monthly yoni reupholster ???? lmfao what a virgin.
@@stoneheart_raven Oh I would pay to see her meltdown when a medical professional straight up refutes her bullshit. Facts and science are the enemy of woo woo scammers.
This woman’s narcissism is on full display, constantly playing the victim. Giving me some good content ideas.
I don't know this Tony guy but dude made me tear up with his question "so a pssy that looks like roast beef can be fix to be the perfect little pssy?" Trying to hold in the out loud laughter and tears from that xD
Props to Alex for staying neutral, bro kept catching strays. Apparently that blank stoic stare makes him look as threatening as an easter island statue. Keep that fire coming brother @playingwithfirechannel
He couldn’t control the situation. Tony did
Man I HATE people who do something and IMMEDIATELY turn around and deny it
@@natediaz1863 That's a people thing, not a woman thing. Guys lie their asses off when they do something embarrassing.
@@RolaiEckolo shh don't tell him that wtf! That's our #1 cheerleader.
@@RolaiEckolothat guy was born in 1863 look at his username. Times were different back then. Can't blame him
@@natediaz1863you hate women buddy, you might not be as hetero as you think
@@natediaz1863Yes
“How dare you say that about a single mom.” 😂 She has zero self awareness.
She’s actually calling her nanny haha this lady is so defensive and insecure
That was so cringe I’m dying
She’s so out of place here
Most impressive part was her calling her right after her phone died
I love how she says how it is to be a white male but then says they have no idea what it’s like to be a non white female. The hypocrisy! She also used the expression throwing rocks into a glass house.
*Tony from off screen* "THAT'S ANOTHER ATTACK!" XD Had me rolling.
I love how Tony is like Wtf is the red pill movement? Goes to show real go getters handling their business in real world than roasting their brains on toxic online communities.
NGL Tony was a much better moderator than the actual moderator lmao
Bcoz she only listens to him only😂
After the second debate, I swore I wouldn't subject myself to more of this torture, but alas, here I am...
Don't worry, Tony's got your back.
The "son son" thing was explained by the Nanny...
She said it's a code word to use when she's asked to cover for something...
OMG he is like a Dad having a tough love argument with his daughter. She is literally making therapist and women look like unhinged people. It’s insane that she hurls insults towards Destiny but he makes a counterpoint mixed with sarcasm and she resorts to using the POC card. As if Destiny isn’t also a women of color 😳
Let it be known that Destiny did not tag Janelle. Now we know what a horrible person he is.
Common August W
Destiny is afraid another woman of color will outshine her.
MrGirl is now updating his article 😂
@@GchildwarriorThat was a good one.
@@Gchildwarrior Mr Who? Who is that?
The fact she thinks that her critics are just "guys that want to sleep with me" is just so narcissistic and out of touch of reality...
the boobs is crazy though
Yea, you can sleep with a plastic bag and will be the same.
Going in that would be like beating a tent. But that's Sexology 102, online course comming soon.
dude that's like half of all women online lmao, considering their default response to criticism is any variation of "you'll never touch a woman" or "you're ugly/you look like an incel"
@@emperortgp2424 all influencers* online. Most of those types dip into being scammers with OF simp thirst traps
TONY IS SUCH A GIGACHAD. THE REAL MODERATOR.
defnetly the moderate in this conversation
Got overbearing in the final 20%, fine guy tho
nah, his incoherent self congratulatory rambling got genuinely hard to listen to very quickly. idk why everyone here is simping so hard for him. i guess bc he’s contradicting janelle lmao
@@deep_and_profound_topicsbecause he kept it unbiased. He stayed even. Unless somehow you saw something different?
@@Kenpachi_White707i think if ur not socially retarded it’s pretty apparent that he’s being brand-friendly and trying to ride a fence. when ppl say shit like “THIS GUY HERE SUCKS DICK” and “well you know, he’s gay which i don’t like or support, but i love all ppl!” then u can usually infer they’re just being PC as to not get harmed by ramifications of their real opinions
Tony sounds like the dude who swears hes saying something really wise about political issues but is really just so wealthy he’s more isolated than he realizes.
1. Love Tony. Logical, nice, funny, and called her out on her bullshit.
2. How is a sex therapist so judgmental over sexual orientation, open relationships, penis size, etc.
3. I love how by her logical in investment, she goes to a restaurant, pays for her food, and that would be her investing in the restaurant business 😅
She not a actual therapist. never did a degree in it. She's just a coach.
Tony came off pretty level headed and open minded. Props to him.
He literally said that he thinks being gay is wrong so I don't know what open-mindedness you are talking about
and he is entitled to thinking that and living this life that way just like how you probably want to live your life as gay. He said its wrong but doesn't hate people for being gay. what am i missing?@@Shoxie_g
@@Shoxie_ghe thinks it's wrong personally but he isn't spewing it out at gay people shaming them is the point. He has an opinion but he isn't making other people suffer over it
@Shoxie_g here comes the straight savior 🥴
@@Shoxie_g He literally said, "everyone has the right to live the way the live." when talking about gay people. How is that not open-minded? Maybe you are the close-minded one.
This was the best guest of any panel ever created, Tony 2024!
Omg when he genuinely asked destiny to play fortnite with his grandson 😂😂😂
Take Tony for chicken and waffles!
"That one right there, sucks dick" I almost spat my coffee out. Dude is hilarious.
My favorite part was when he went to get a drink, came back and was exasperated because "Thai" Dolezal was doing another random personal attack
At the start I dismissed Tony, and I was wrong, as he was a really cool dude in this show, I really grew to like him. I hope Destiny games with his son.
I've worked for multiple nonprofits and I have no idea what she's talking about with this "gold seal" lol
I had entirely too much fun watching Tony and Destiny just ask questions that end up triggering her lol
Imagine we had someone like Tony instead of Q. For Kick or Keep he would have all the connections and he is perfect as a Support Character. Man.
Trueee Q really needs to learn how to not be so fucking annoying
absolutely not lmfaoo are you on drugs?!
every single conversation would be filled with random and nonsensical interruptions
I hope Destiny talks to Tony more in the future
She’s not Redpill. Plus, she keeps using “I’m a single mother” excuse for whenever they disagree and she acts likes she’s a “survivor”. It was her choice and her mistakes that let her to being a single mother. No accountability.
This backfired horribly. She thought he was going to be an echo chamber. She's a wimp!
One thing I've learned from personal debates and watching debates is you can't threaten to leave and then stay. If you're done you're done. Otherwise you're just owning yourself
And she did it like 5 times lol
Watching Tony realize how screwed up Janelle truly is was a once in a lifetime experience
It was glorious
It’s grrrrr-r-r-reat!
Gold
This Tony dude feels like a real life gta character 😂
Omg! Right in the middle of reading that my mind just went, "Yep!" So true. xD
The Ballad of Based Tony
@@oXexify 😂
For someone who pals around with Fresh and Fit and Adam Sosnick, she went down the SIGN language route very quickly.
Holy shit this was the best. I have never enjoyed and laughed out loud in a while from a debate. Great job Destiny and Alex. Thanks for the primo content.
... I love this. Her making claims then her backup calling her out EVERY time.
I didn't catch this originally, but man - this entire "debate" is comedy gold! Couldn't stop laughing the entire time, lol.
'Micro-Penis' lol this shits too funny. Always with the body shaming the minute it can be weaponized
And she would be offended if people made fun of her boobs.
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In a previous talk destiny made a comment about club girls and lip fillers. Janelle got defensive very quickly about that.
Sex coach btw
Funny because she complained about Destiny mentioning her implants too at the beginning. Shes a remedial.
Odd criticism to make too, seeing as Destiny's dick has been on the internet for over a decade.
The fact that janelle can say so many things without saying anything makes me go crazy
That’s common for scammers
Remember the debate from like 7 years ago where some dude brought his lawyer friend only for him to agree with Destiny? Really similar energy here.
I love when fake therapists aka “life/sex coaches whatever” get exposed. Janelle is insufferable with her pseudoscience and judgmental attitude. She absolutely deserves this.
She deserves a real SmackDown, the kind that only a woman could give her. Sometimes men are just too nice to these stupid women. Only a woman knows how to knock a bich down a few pegs...... Properly!
Yeah a sex coach saying bi guys cant exist 👌🏻😅
I think she might be one of those who's genuinely deluded about it and thinks she's actually an expert in something, but it's the little things like the throwing in random words and then going "That's Sanskrit for penis". Any time someone throws out an obscure term and it makes no sense as to why they wouldn't use a common term. She doesn't give any technical reason for it, it's completely unnecessary, it's just there to obscure that she's not saying anything interesting and make her sound educated.
I loved that she completely ignored the "male g spot" being up their ass when saying a man doesnt have an "inside sexual" whatever thing she was going on about
My favorite part was when she said, "You don't have a vagina, you don't know how it works." I would like her to say that in the face of a male OB-GYN, lololol.
Those first 10 minutes of them setting up were definitely super important.
She is the most delusional scam artist I’ve ever seen. Brings up her son all the time and trashes Nebraska Steve and he says one thing and she cries.
She’s saved so many marriages but couldn’t hold a man down
Well she said he was special lol
Ready to get my brain made into jelly... Here we go...
Im 50 years old and have seen a lot over the years, I've got to tell you, These podcasts are way better than the olden timey soap operas. Young and the restless has nothing on Destiny and his podcast.
@@stepfaniehawkins205 Oh i agree sir, it's very entertaining and i had some good laughs. But this girl is barely hitting 50 IQ and sadly has a platform to infect young women and men with her brain rot 😥
i hope this woman imploded her entire business because of this "debate" and Tony got as far away from her as possible.
"I'm not a writier, I'm a speaker" uh huh...
"There's no such thing as bisexual" .... There you have it, your sex therapist mwahahaha
And 2 minutes later “I never said there’s no such a thing as bisexual… it’s Just, I’m my opinion, because men’s thing is on the outside”. 😂😂😂 this woman is unbelievable 🤦🏽♀️
Tony was such a sweetheart. Dude was chill af and was ACTUALLY listening which was really surprising. At the beginning I was worried about Tony cuz I thought him trying to calm things down he was going to cuck the content but he was based af. This Jennelle lady tho.... she actually seems very much like scamah lmao
Respect for not dropping the hard R
Tony can reach Jenelle because he talks to her as if she's a child. The more she talks, the worse she makes herself look and she's completely unaware of it. She's not a scammer because she fully bought into whatever scam she's peddling. To be so dim and petulant of a person and to still make money warrants respect, somehow.
I was kinda thinking that too. Like if she said any of these things as a dude, no one would have been charitable toward her. She’s getting treated unbelievably well for how delusional she is
writing 2 books in one day isn't the brag you think it is