As a feminist for 5 decades and a victim of the dark men you are speaking of starting with my dad and mom of a 15 yr old daughter, I thank you for your bravery Drew.
my man you’re misappropriating your frustration onto another abuse victim. Drew is one of the many feminists that are using accessible platforms to teach women to stand up to misogyny, and that can come from men and women, mind you. Men are arguably the loudest perpetrators and the most invincible especially in the patriarchal societies we live in, and to your point, vileness can come from men women and everyone in between. No one is disparaging your experience. Take your frustration to therapy, break down that trauma, and learn to cope and confront your trauma. Think twice before commenting.
@@eatmanyzoos um, what?? I know there are toxic women out there but that’s not what this podcast is about. I’m sure there are plenty of those you can find. Bye.
drew’s wisdom honestly helped me escape an abusive relationship the more i thought “what would drew think about the way im being treated rn” or “what would drew think of what he just said to me”the more strength i gathered to leave and i did eventually and im gunna keep her wisdoms in my head moving forward💗
It gives me such joy knowing how many TERRIBLE MEN love The Office who will see this and be devastated Rainn Wilson is complimenting Drew for an hour. 😁 (Also a huge fan of The Office and enjoyed this so much)
She describes the same men who are angry at women who choose to stay single and live their own hero's journeys. Same type of men who call these women "childless cat ladies". Sorry to burst their bubble but these women are free, happy and grateful that for the first time in history, they are now able to take care of themselves and their community without feeling obligated to cater to a man. Something we've always been completely capable of but have been deterred and brainwashed away from doing so. Decenter men and as Drew says, "the world opens up". I love it!
The amount of women getting on SSRI’s is on the rise. The data shows the exact opposite Also female suicide has doubled from 2021 to 2022 Women are actually killing themselves more frequently and getting on depression medication more than ever before. Happy it worked out for you. But the data shows the exact opposite of what you just said
There are seriously not a whole lot more satisfying moments quite like when a man tries to come for me for being a near 40-year-old woman who is child free and never been married and tries to belittle me for it and claim I must live a miserable and lonely existence, and I get to turn to them and say "No, it's a peaceful and quiet existence filled with joy that no man could ever match." ❤
interesting, I heard this only from women gossiping and thought theyre jelous of these "free women". First time I hear that some males do that too. Same goes for alone living men over 40 , but nobody cares how they feel. Most people think theyre weird or pedos or whatever.
Drew is so well spoken and passionate, you can feel how much she cares about her fanbase. This interview was so refreshing, she’s an amazing role model!
Her conversation about internalized fat phobia was really important to me. Fat is a descriptor, it shouldn't be a word that is associated with self worth and this is so important for me to teach my daughter
I've always been a feminist, but until I started watching Drew's videos I never realized a huge source for my chronic anxiety was rooted in the patriarchy. I was always afraid to misstep or inconvenience someone, and I never before had put into perspective that men don't manage and limit themselves for the convenience of others the way women do. Drew made me realize that I'd subconsciously felt responsible for making men comfortable and that they shouldn't have that power over me. If you're reading this and you have severe anxiety, try to remember that a lot of your fears are rooted in patriarchal standards. Whatever your gender identity is, your fears of not being successful enough, strong enough, smart enough, attractive enough, etc. are all based on what patriarchal societies and systems value. Your own value comes from you, not them.
@@bdmenne you know that the whole notion that men were the hunters and women were the gatherers has been disproved, right? scientists are actually thinking that it’s likely that autistic people were the main gatherers because they could remember a lot of specific information about plants and stuff, and people with adhd were great hunters because they had a lot of energy and were very quick thinkers. there’s so much about humanity that we’ve assumed, but the truth is we don’t know. there is no excuse for the patriarchy, not even “human nature” because gender doesn’t actually have anything to do with survival 👍
"It's easy to do it from afar but can you do it when it's right next to you?" Drew, that is such a profound way to describe supporting a marginalized group!!! Everybody claims to be an ally but if it was your family member that came out, or started dating interracially, or even stated to say racist or homophobic things themselves, would you stand up or show support for that marginalized group? Or would you stay silent (or worse make it about your discomfort or fear)?
I've never understood why people say to be kind even when someone is mean to you. As Drew has said before kindness is not a language they understand. You have to speak the language they do understand, and sometimes that's meanness. Also, if someone is mean to you they just don't deserve your kindness period.
I absolutely LOVE that Drew cusses so naturally and fluidly within her passion for women’s and minorities’ rights and at no point does it diminish her points. Stunning woman and absolutely captivating!
Drew has inspired me, a disabled(autism) femme person to stand up for myself and advocate for myself. Drew is my hero. Thanks for having her on your show Rainn
Drew IS a hero for us. She created a space most women struggle to find, and the validation of generations of anger inside of us. so happy to have seen this episode!
Drew know her fan base so well. Delighted to see such a thoughtful and engaging discussion! Drew and Rainn have both such interesting takes. Looking forward to more great conversations like this!
I could see someone arguing "youre complaining about men haiting women but say its fine for women to hate men." But literally the WHY behind the contempt is astounding. Men feel entitled to their misplaced beliefs about women bc they think its preordained. Women are responding to the pushback and terrible crimes committed against them.
Drew has honestly changed my life, I'm so inspired to use my feminine rage to lift all of my sisters up, and getting to cackle while doing so! Thank you for having her on, I'm now a fan of this pod because of her interview!
I loved this episode so much! She’s great at expressing her thoughts in such a positive manner. And he’s great at opening up the conversation with great questions:)
I don't think i have ever been this emotional for an Anology before and especially because i have been following drew for a while now, the Anology off "It's like a burning Building and i'm just the one that found the Door and holding it open for everyone (or who chooses to) to get out, the Building is gonna burn down regardless" has got me sobbing for like 5 minutes now It's absolutely true and it might sound like a pretentious statement to people not familiar with her person, but thats exactly who she is. And its so selfless too, because holding the door open for a extented period of time takes a toll on someone too, she could also just have been like well i figured it out for my self for the most part i'm good, but she doesn't love this woman doown, and i really need people to know that just because she is not "nice" (atleast to bigoted men) doesn't mean she isn't kind, and she is so kind. all the love, thank you for this great episode
I love Drew for this! I look up to her as a WOC who faces racism, sexism and misogyny daily... You both had such a wonderful conversation, thank you for letting us into this conversation 😄
i really appreciate her approach to conflict, humoring yourself while embarrassing and cornering perpetrators is definitely something ive employed in my life especially regarding my asshat father! shes such an inspiration of how she views the world and relationships!
A lot of people stop at Drew’s “silly” TikTok’s without actually getting to know the basis and foundation as to why she speaks the way she does and feels the way she does. She’s extremely intelligent and I’m so grateful to the work that she does, it’s genuinely impactful.
hell yeah Drew!! loved watching this, had no idea Rainn had a podcast! very happy strong voices like Drew's are being shared with a new audience and pumped to dive into Soul Boom further
I've always found her accounts a bit too much for me but wow this conversation opened how I look at her work. She's a brilliant, considered and concious speaker with such a mission. I'm a convert now.
Drew is such an online icon. This is the first time I've seen one of her interviews and it's so refreshing to see her speak with such knowledge about systemic issues. As a woman of colour and from the global south who has studied feminist theory for years, and completed a master's in gender and development, I love how good she is at understanding and speaking of complex theoretical concepts that feminists have expanded for years, and is able to bring them into conversation with her casual and humorous interventions. Feminism is not a monolith, and it cannot be reduced to 'the search for equality in opportunity and choice'. Feminisms (pl.) are an ethical struggle, and can be applied to all aspects of human life. Well done Rainn and Drew, I hope videos like these reach millions of women AND men, and hopefully one day we're able speak of systemic oppressions as past concepts. Great content. Cheers!
I had a lot of internalized misogyny in my early twenties. I’m glad I’ve grown into a woman that staunchly supports other women and builds other women up instead of tearing them down. Women face enough hate and adversity. We have to stick together.
I love Drew so much and have been following her (and her sister Deison) since the beginning. She is so layered and intelligent and well spoken and I am beyond happy that she is getting the platform and recognition that she deserves. Having an open dialogue about violence, misogyny and the patriarchy as a whole gets us one step closer to dismantling it. So proud of you Drew! (And great questions from Rainn as usual!)
I love Drew Afualo. She is so intelligent and truly a unique modern pop culture figure. She is so clear, concise and knowledgeable on so many topics. This is the first time I heard of ANY western influencer who is not of Korean descent speak on the 4B movement. This is a major foreign movement that really needs more eyes especially since feminism is so frowned upon and seen as the equivalent to a crime there.
Never thought I’d be scratching off Rainn x Drew collab off my bingo, but here we are!! This was a fantastic interview, I am glad Drew went into more details about her book, I will be adding it to my reading list. I echo what many have said, but Drew’s unashamed, proud, loud, and just stance on topics makes be feel BRAVE. I am so happy to have someone like Drew on social media nowadays - she makes the world seem a little less scary ❤️
Drew explains so many complex, deep issues so eloquently. I really appreciate her loaning us some of her boldness and confidence through her podcast. As a queer, plus size, disabled woman in the world, I love her view of a cornerstone of intersectional feminism being autonomy and that she talked directly about anti fat bias.
I love the analogy of the burning building, it applies to so many things, but I think of it in terms of internalized misogyny. Like all of us are in the burning building of patriarchy, but we’ve convinced ourselves it’s not burning. Drew’s coming in talking to the people suffering the most and pointing out the smoke and the burns, showing you that the room is burning, and then pointing out the exit door by saying, you are allowed to say, this treatment, this state of eternal burning, is unacceptable, and I’m not going to pretend I don’t see it and I don’t suffer anymore.
Drew crushed it as always! I really appreciated Rainn's reminder that we were all indigenous to begin with and his rough mapping of feminine deity representation to male. I had never thought/heard of that progression.
This was awesome, Rainn! So glad Drew is growing the way she is. Big respect to your team for having her on. This is such an important conversation to have.
Drew is so eloquent with how she speaks about these very vast topics it’s hypnotizing to watch. She is so strong and brave and that makes other women like myself feel like we can be that way too. She is truly such an inspiration ❤
Drew talking about her sister coming out to her reminds me of when an ex came out to me as trans. She was so shaky and when I asked her why she said "I wasn't sure how you'd take it. I'm a girl who likes girls." And THAT was the moment that I realized that I'm not as good of an ally as I thought either. We both cried about it while I told her no matter what I'm ALWAYS going to love you, as long as youre a good person and are being genuine, be YOU who you were born to be. Her fear and tears really drove me to be better, to be who I am today because I don't want people to have that fear with me. Ik to an extent it'll always be there because opening up is scary and the world is terrifying but opening up to me the tears shouldn't be shed because someone fears to tell me who they are. The day she came out to me I became louder about where my heart lies to try to make it a more comfortable place for those who are afraid.
Drew's philosophy is one that I've implemented in my daily life and it has drastically impacted how I engage with allyship. I don't have fear when challenging perspectives, particularly as I work in a male dominated industry. When you make allyship your own you can begin to see the positive impact it has on marginalized populations, and privileged populations that have never been challenged on their ideas.
This episode was absolutely perfect, besides the fact it's my two most favorite entertainers, it's so important to talk about these things. Thank you both for sitting down and talking about the hard things, this was beautiful.
I have so much to learn from this woman. I’ve known about her for a while but never really got into her content until the past couple months and I just fucking love everything she says. I have a lot of internalised phobia’s and misogyny even as a lesbian woman. I grew up in a rough house where these things were normal and encouraged. It’s a tough thing to relearn things you have learned as a child in the years where it matters most. I am doing my best but its so fucking refreshing to hear her speak my thoughts without shame and with the confidence and the knowledge to back herself up if questioned
I just bought Drew’s book, and I’m so incredibly excited. Drew is such an inspiration to woman of color, plus sized women and just any woman in this world today. Thank you Drew for your positive influence on the world 🫶
This is why I love drew so much, she literally just spoke so much fucking truth in this video like the part where she said she feels like she validates women's experiences by being angry with them, and that hit me in my core like I knew I loved her because she's gorgeous, kind, hilarious, and dogs on shitty men, but it wasnt until this video I realized why i truly value and admire her because she does in fact Validate my feelings when it comes to men in general. She deserves the world, and will always be a feminine icon to me
This is such a beautiful and honest interview. I loved how understanding and receptive Rainn is as an interviewer. And I love how Drew is so real, candid and vulnerable. I’ve always supported her and her platform. Great video :)
She’s such a beautiful soul. This was so nice to hear more about Drew in depth and personally. What an amazing person. Such an inspiration to me as a woman pursuing a career in politics to hopefully make the world better 💕💕
Rain , I really like the questions you asked . I feel Iike I love watching drew because of her personality and how she stands her ground but watching her response to these questions helps me see MORE of why she does what she does. You asked her the question and listened ❤ also rip your father he would come into a Starbucks I used to work at . He always talked about how proud he was of you ❤
I fuck with Drew the long way. Drew thank you to the moon and back for everything that you do, this interaction was so eloquent and tbh it really shows how sharp you are. God speed queen, I’m so honoured to share a lifetime with you ❤
drew!!!!!! my heart. when she used the metaphor of holding the door open to the building that's on fire...... and taking the power back from words like 'fat' and 'ugly'.... I needed to hear that. many blessings onto you and yours xoxoxo
I am so proud of who you are Drew, and every time you pop up on my feed, I get excited. Also, very pleased with Rainn Wilson for unabashedly bringing this perspective to us. Love you both
Drew is incredibly well spoken and passionate about the people she cares about. She is a textbook incredible Virgo woman. What a remarkable human being ❤
Drew is so inspiring! ❤ I stand by the point that you have to speak to someone in a language they understand. Throw it badk at them and see how they react. I am not a yeller, but had to keep doing it to someone in my life bc they do it so much to me and it always made me feel terrible. Asking them to speak to me calmly and with respect got me nowhere. Turns out they HATE being yelled at, big shock😮
@@mars7143 I agree with you totally! Still thankful for the interview, too. She made great points, as always and as expected. Can't wait to buy her book!
Sooooooo happy to see Drew on this show!! I'm reading her book now and she has helped me unpack so much. Truly one of my favorite creators and I'm glad to see her collab with so many other amazing creators.
i love drew so fucking much. she is a beacon in this dark ass world. intelligence beyond measure, eloquent and clear. not to mention an amazing writer and an overall beautiful human being.
It’s not women’s job to “nice” the hate out of men. It’s men’s job to figure out why they insist on projecting their own self hatred onto women simply living their life
If anyone knows Drew’s lore, you know The Office is one of her top shows, I’m SO happy for her!!
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this was the best crossover in 2024!
The way she kept her cool on both shows is astonishing 😊
As a feminist for 5 decades and a victim of the dark men you are speaking of starting with my dad and mom of a 15 yr old daughter, I thank you for your bravery Drew.
where do the victims of abusive women go? do you even care? with all your superior female empathy?
my man you’re misappropriating your frustration onto another abuse victim. Drew is one of the many feminists that are using accessible platforms to teach women to stand up to misogyny, and that can come from men and women, mind you. Men are arguably the loudest perpetrators and the most invincible especially in the patriarchal societies we live in, and to your point, vileness can come from men women and everyone in between. No one is disparaging your experience. Take your frustration to therapy, break down that trauma, and learn to cope and confront your trauma. Think twice before commenting.
@@eatmanyzoos um, what?? I know there are toxic women out there but that’s not what this podcast is about. I’m sure there are plenty of those you can find. Bye.
How many cats do you currently own? 😂
@@capndallas4918 do you actually listen to the soul boom podcast and act like this too? You don’t seem to be actually listening.
drew’s wisdom honestly helped me escape an abusive relationship the more i thought “what would drew think about the way im being treated rn” or “what would drew think of what he just said to me”the more strength i gathered to leave and i did eventually and im gunna keep her wisdoms in my head moving forward💗
Love this ❤️
Same here 🙌
I’m proud of you ❤
im so glad your inner drew saw your value ❤❤❤
This is so beautiful 😭 you took her words and made her your own cheerleader. That's exactly what she wants
Im glad she mentioned the pedo problem. She shows the real side of some men
100%. A psychologist told me that pedophilia or any non consensual sex is always about power. And what kind of men are obsessed with power?
@@giarichards1529 narcicists?
she’s a real one thanks for having drew
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It gives me such joy knowing how many TERRIBLE MEN love The Office who will see this and be devastated Rainn Wilson is complimenting Drew for an hour. 😁 (Also a huge fan of The Office and enjoyed this so much)
Yikes...
lmaaoooo so true!!!!!
This was my immediate thought when I saw rainn is gonna be on Drew’s podcast too 😂 I can’t wait for the tantrums
Imposter syndrome is a bitch
YESSSSSS🎉
She describes the same men who are angry at women who choose to stay single and live their own hero's journeys.
Same type of men who call these women "childless cat ladies". Sorry to burst their bubble but these women are free, happy and grateful that for the first time in history, they are now able to take care of themselves and their community without feeling obligated to cater to a man. Something we've always been completely capable of but have been deterred and brainwashed away from doing so.
Decenter men and as Drew says, "the world opens up". I love it!
🖐🏼 this childless cat lady is indeed very free, happy, and grateful 😌
The amount of women getting on SSRI’s is on the rise. The data shows the exact opposite Also female suicide has doubled from 2021 to 2022 Women are actually killing themselves more frequently and getting on depression medication more than ever before. Happy it worked out for you. But the data shows the exact opposite of what you just said
@@andreamarie6501 me & my bestie live together with our 5 cats & our home is always peaceful (cat zoomie chaos aside lol) 🖤
There are seriously not a whole lot more satisfying moments quite like when a man tries to come for me for being a near 40-year-old woman who is child free and never been married and tries to belittle me for it and claim I must live a miserable and lonely existence, and I get to turn to them and say "No, it's a peaceful and quiet existence filled with joy that no man could ever match." ❤
interesting, I heard this only from women gossiping and thought theyre jelous of these "free women".
First time I hear that some males do that too.
Same goes for alone living men over 40 , but nobody cares how they feel. Most people think theyre weird or pedos or whatever.
Drew is so well spoken and passionate, you can feel how much she cares about her fanbase. This interview was so refreshing, she’s an amazing role model!
Agreed!
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Her conversation about internalized fat phobia was really important to me. Fat is a descriptor, it shouldn't be a word that is associated with self worth and this is so important for me to teach my daughter
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I don’t “handle hate” gracefully either. Nor should any human. Truth exists. A spade is a spade.
Hate needs to be handled with love. If we won't accept teaching from those enlightened then we are doomed to repeat the same low vibrational mistakes.
"Can you imagine if we started the race at the same time" HITS SO HARD DREW
I've always been a feminist, but until I started watching Drew's videos I never realized a huge source for my chronic anxiety was rooted in the patriarchy.
I was always afraid to misstep or inconvenience someone, and I never before had put into perspective that men don't manage and limit themselves for the convenience of others the way women do. Drew made me realize that I'd subconsciously felt responsible for making men comfortable and that they shouldn't have that power over me.
If you're reading this and you have severe anxiety, try to remember that a lot of your fears are rooted in patriarchal standards. Whatever your gender identity is, your fears of not being successful enough, strong enough, smart enough, attractive enough, etc. are all based on what patriarchal societies and systems value. Your own value comes from you, not them.
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Go for 2 weeks in the wilderness, then come and talk to me about how unneeded and dangerous “the patriarchy” is.
@@bdmennehi! female backpacker here. the patriarchy is unneeded. thanks!
@@bdmenne you know that the whole notion that men were the hunters and women were the gatherers has been disproved, right? scientists are actually thinking that it’s likely that autistic people were the main gatherers because they could remember a lot of specific information about plants and stuff, and people with adhd were great hunters because they had a lot of energy and were very quick thinkers. there’s so much about humanity that we’ve assumed, but the truth is we don’t know. there is no excuse for the patriarchy, not even “human nature” because gender doesn’t actually have anything to do with survival 👍
I needed to read this! Thank you kindly. 💛
"It's easy to do it from afar but can you do it when it's right next to you?" Drew, that is such a profound way to describe supporting a marginalized group!!! Everybody claims to be an ally but if it was your family member that came out, or started dating interracially, or even stated to say racist or homophobic things themselves, would you stand up or show support for that marginalized group? Or would you stay silent (or worse make it about your discomfort or fear)?
Do you speak up when someone in your family says something problematic about marginalized groups?
Oooooof! I can’t wait to get to that part.
Me when I saw this pop up: “fantastic, gimme 14 of em right now” I love both of you
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I've never understood why people say to be kind even when someone is mean to you. As Drew has said before kindness is not a language they understand. You have to speak the language they do understand, and sometimes that's meanness. Also, if someone is mean to you they just don't deserve your kindness period.
I absolutely LOVE that Drew cusses so naturally and fluidly within her passion for women’s and minorities’ rights and at no point does it diminish her points.
Stunning woman and absolutely captivating!
Drew has inspired me, a disabled(autism) femme person to stand up for myself and advocate for myself. Drew is my hero. Thanks for having her on your show Rainn
So glad you enjoyed! She rules 🙌
it doesn't matter how much content i watch from drew, im always struck by how eloquent she is and how fantastic a communicator she is
Drew IS a hero for us. She created a space most women struggle to find, and the validation of generations of anger inside of us. so happy to have seen this episode!
We are so lucky to have Drew. I wish I had her when I was younger, but so glad to have her now.
Drew know her fan base so well. Delighted to see such a thoughtful and engaging discussion! Drew and Rainn have both such interesting takes. Looking forward to more great conversations like this!
So many more to come! 🙏
I could see someone arguing "youre complaining about men haiting women but say its fine for women to hate men." But literally the WHY behind the contempt is astounding. Men feel entitled to their misplaced beliefs about women bc they think its preordained. Women are responding to the pushback and terrible crimes committed against them.
Get bent with this take. Hate of an entire group is irrational. Replace men with any other subgroup and recognize what a bigot you truly are.
The sheer imbecility and cognitive incoherency of your thoughts literally make the world dumber.
Drew is the clap back we’ve all needed! She is the textbook definition of when they go low we go LOWERRER
Drew has honestly changed my life, I'm so inspired to use my feminine rage to lift all of my sisters up, and getting to cackle while doing so! Thank you for having her on, I'm now a fan of this pod because of her interview!
I loved this episode so much! She’s great at expressing her thoughts in such a positive manner. And he’s great at opening up the conversation with great questions:)
I love Drew Afualo. She is so funny, intelligent and brave. A role model for me.
I don't think i have ever been this emotional for an Anology before and especially because i have been following drew for a while now, the Anology off "It's like a burning Building and i'm just the one that found the Door and holding it open for everyone (or who chooses to) to get out, the Building is gonna burn down regardless" has got me sobbing for like 5 minutes now
It's absolutely true and it might sound like a pretentious statement to people not familiar with her person, but thats exactly who she is. And its so selfless too, because holding the door open for a extented period of time takes a toll on someone too, she could also just have been like well i figured it out for my self for the most part i'm good, but she doesn't
love this woman doown, and i really need people to know that just because she is not "nice" (atleast to bigoted men) doesn't mean she isn't kind, and she is so kind.
all the love, thank you for this great episode
YES!! That analogy hit me too, I'm so so grateful for Drew
I have 3 brothers and they all are red pill. It’s terrifying. I am not joking. Had to separate myself
I’m so sorry you’re experiencing this. I am glad you have been able to separate yourself and enforce your boundaries. Take care !!
I hope they grow like my brothers have 💔💔💔
I love Drew for this! I look up to her as a WOC who faces racism, sexism and misogyny daily...
You both had such a wonderful conversation, thank you for letting us into this conversation
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i really appreciate her approach to conflict, humoring yourself while embarrassing and cornering perpetrators is definitely something ive employed in my life especially regarding my asshat father! shes such an inspiration of how she views the world and relationships!
A lot of people stop at Drew’s “silly” TikTok’s without actually getting to know the basis and foundation as to why she speaks the way she does and feels the way she does. She’s extremely intelligent and I’m so grateful to the work that she does, it’s genuinely impactful.
hell yeah Drew!! loved watching this, had no idea Rainn had a podcast! very happy strong voices like Drew's are being shared with a new audience and pumped to dive into Soul Boom further
So glad to have you here 🙏
I've always found her accounts a bit too much for me but wow this conversation opened how I look at her work. She's a brilliant, considered and concious speaker with such a mission. I'm a convert now.
Drew is such an online icon. This is the first time I've seen one of her interviews and it's so refreshing to see her speak with such knowledge about systemic issues. As a woman of colour and from the global south who has studied feminist theory for years, and completed a master's in gender and development, I love how good she is at understanding and speaking of complex theoretical concepts that feminists have expanded for years, and is able to bring them into conversation with her casual and humorous interventions.
Feminism is not a monolith, and it cannot be reduced to 'the search for equality in opportunity and choice'. Feminisms (pl.) are an ethical struggle, and can be applied to all aspects of human life.
Well done Rainn and Drew, I hope videos like these reach millions of women AND men, and hopefully one day we're able speak of systemic oppressions as past concepts. Great content. Cheers!
I had a lot of internalized misogyny in my early twenties. I’m glad I’ve grown into a woman that staunchly supports other women and builds other women up instead of tearing them down. Women face enough hate and adversity. We have to stick together.
i love drew! she’s been a constant reminder that it’s okay to take issue with injustice and speak up against it whether it affects me or not.
I love Drew so much and have been following her (and her sister Deison) since the beginning. She is so layered and intelligent and well spoken and I am beyond happy that she is getting the platform and recognition that she deserves. Having an open dialogue about violence, misogyny and the patriarchy as a whole gets us one step closer to dismantling it. So proud of you Drew! (And great questions from Rainn as usual!)
I love Drew Afualo. She is so intelligent and truly a unique modern pop culture figure. She is so clear, concise and knowledgeable on so many topics. This is the first time I heard of ANY western influencer who is not of Korean descent speak on the 4B movement. This is a major foreign movement that really needs more eyes especially since feminism is so frowned upon and seen as the equivalent to a crime there.
The influencers I've followed have been talking about this for months. I hope the movement makes it way over here.
Never thought I’d be scratching off Rainn x Drew collab off my bingo, but here we are!! This was a fantastic interview, I am glad Drew went into more details about her book, I will be adding it to my reading list. I echo what many have said, but Drew’s unashamed, proud, loud, and just stance on topics makes be feel BRAVE. I am so happy to have someone like Drew on social media nowadays - she makes the world seem a little less scary ❤️
Drew explains so many complex, deep issues so eloquently. I really appreciate her loaning us some of her boldness and confidence through her podcast. As a queer, plus size, disabled woman in the world, I love her view of a cornerstone of intersectional feminism being autonomy and that she talked directly about anti fat bias.
I love the analogy of the burning building, it applies to so many things, but I think of it in terms of internalized misogyny. Like all of us are in the burning building of patriarchy, but we’ve convinced ourselves it’s not burning. Drew’s coming in talking to the people suffering the most and pointing out the smoke and the burns, showing you that the room is burning, and then pointing out the exit door by saying, you are allowed to say, this treatment, this state of eternal burning, is unacceptable, and I’m not going to pretend I don’t see it and I don’t suffer anymore.
Never seen soul boom. This is so insightful and an amazing way to start my morning. Thank you guys.
A combo I didn’t realize I needed to see. Excited for this convo 🔥
Drew is SPECIAL👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 we are so blessed to have her in the world, thank you Drew!
Not just young women. I’m 57 and a huge fan!!❤
Same. 58 and love Drew.
this makes my day!
Some of these comments are calling themselves out, I love it. Keep it up Drew. Thank you for letting our voices be heard
I love that you had Drew on. I could’ve listened to another hour. So thankful for her brilliant mind and boldness
Drew crushed it as always!
I really appreciated Rainn's reminder that we were all indigenous to begin with and his rough mapping of feminine deity representation to male. I had never thought/heard of that progression.
This was an interview I was so excited to watch. Drew is a warrior goddess, I admire, respect, and adore what she stands for and how she does it.
"If I wasn't aiming for you, don't feel hit". Fantastic!
This was awesome, Rainn! So glad Drew is growing the way she is. Big respect to your team for having her on. This is such an important conversation to have.
Drew is so eloquent with how she speaks about these very vast topics it’s hypnotizing to watch. She is so strong and brave and that makes other women like myself feel like we can be that way too. She is truly such an inspiration ❤
Drew talking about her sister coming out to her reminds me of when an ex came out to me as trans. She was so shaky and when I asked her why she said "I wasn't sure how you'd take it. I'm a girl who likes girls." And THAT was the moment that I realized that I'm not as good of an ally as I thought either. We both cried about it while I told her no matter what I'm ALWAYS going to love you, as long as youre a good person and are being genuine, be YOU who you were born to be. Her fear and tears really drove me to be better, to be who I am today because I don't want people to have that fear with me. Ik to an extent it'll always be there because opening up is scary and the world is terrifying but opening up to me the tears shouldn't be shed because someone fears to tell me who they are. The day she came out to me I became louder about where my heart lies to try to make it a more comfortable place for those who are afraid.
Why does this make me so emotional… Drew you’re so important
My fav. girl. Always saying the truth, standing strong and empowering women all around the world❤ Thx for the great interview
Drew's philosophy is one that I've implemented in my daily life and it has drastically impacted how I engage with allyship. I don't have fear when challenging perspectives, particularly as I work in a male dominated industry. When you make allyship your own you can begin to see the positive impact it has on marginalized populations, and privileged populations that have never been challenged on their ideas.
This episode was absolutely perfect, besides the fact it's my two most favorite entertainers, it's so important to talk about these things. Thank you both for sitting down and talking about the hard things, this was beautiful.
I absolutely adore her. Her energy just feels like the most supportive hug!
I have so much to learn from this woman. I’ve known about her for a while but never really got into her content until the past couple months and I just fucking love everything she says.
I have a lot of internalised phobia’s and misogyny even as a lesbian woman. I grew up in a rough house where these things were normal and encouraged. It’s a tough thing to relearn things you have learned as a child in the years where it matters most. I am doing my best but its so fucking refreshing to hear her speak my thoughts without shame and with the confidence and the knowledge to back herself up if questioned
I just bought Drew’s book, and I’m so incredibly excited. Drew is such an inspiration to woman of color, plus sized women and just any woman in this world today. Thank you Drew for your positive influence on the world 🫶
I love Drew’s insights and perspective on here. I really appreciate this podcast for curating a safe & thought- provoking conversation. Thank you guys
This is why I love drew so much, she literally just spoke so much fucking truth in this video like the part where she said she feels like she validates women's experiences by being angry with them, and that hit me in my core like I knew I loved her because she's gorgeous, kind, hilarious, and dogs on shitty men, but it wasnt until this video I realized why i truly value and admire her because she does in fact Validate my feelings when it comes to men in general. She deserves the world, and will always be a feminine icon to me
This is such a beautiful and honest interview. I loved how understanding and receptive Rainn is as an interviewer. And I love how Drew is so real, candid and vulnerable. I’ve always supported her and her platform. Great video :)
She’s such a beautiful soul. This was so nice to hear more about Drew in depth and personally. What an amazing person. Such an inspiration to me as a woman pursuing a career in politics to hopefully make the world better 💕💕
6:33 "I don't think meaness should beget niceness, but I do think that's an entitlement people have to me because I'm a woman." -Drew Afualo
Drew was pivotal to my healing process, and for that she’ll have my heart forever.
Rain , I really like the questions you asked . I feel Iike I love watching drew because of her personality and how she stands her ground but watching her response to these questions helps me see MORE of why she does what she does. You asked her the question and listened ❤ also rip your father he would come into a Starbucks I used to work at . He always talked about how proud he was of you ❤
This one literally made me cry so hard. Women are so strong but they rarely know it
so thrilled to see drew on soul boom. loved listening to this conversation!!
Imagine if it had been Dwight instead of Rainn sitting in front of Drew 😭🙏🏼 Man, the conversation would have been completely different !
I fuck with Drew the long way. Drew thank you to the moon and back for everything that you do, this interaction was so eloquent and tbh it really shows how sharp you are. God speed queen, I’m so honoured to share a lifetime with you ❤
Thank you for adding to her platform❤ she is saving us!
Loved how respectful Rainn was with Drew this is my first time watching the podcast and really loved the topics of conversations here!
this was such an interesting conversation on both sides. love to see a real, honest, open discussion like this. subscribed 😊
drew!!!!!! my heart. when she used the metaphor of holding the door open to the building that's on fire...... and taking the power back from words like 'fat' and 'ugly'.... I needed to hear that. many blessings onto you and yours xoxoxo
I am so proud of who you are Drew, and every time you pop up on my feed, I get excited. Also, very pleased with Rainn Wilson for unabashedly bringing this perspective to us. Love you both
Team time to lock tf in
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Drew is incredibly well spoken and passionate about the people she cares about. She is a textbook incredible Virgo woman. What a remarkable human being ❤
Drew is so inspiring! ❤ I stand by the point that you have to speak to someone in a language they understand. Throw it badk at them and see how they react. I am not a yeller, but had to keep doing it to someone in my life bc they do it so much to me and it always made me feel terrible. Asking them to speak to me calmly and with respect got me nowhere. Turns out they HATE being yelled at, big shock😮
I love Drew and Rainn!! What a wonderful interview.
Not Rainn interrupting her 17 seconds after she started answering his VERY FIRST question 💀💀💀 2:15
I also noticed this. 😀 I hope he can correct it for next time, esp bc I love watching him!
@@gracesirois9489 yeah, he keeps cutting her off, especially with a topic like that 😅 it just proves the point
he cut her off all episode 😭 appreciated the convo but let her speak!!
@@mars7143 I agree with you totally! Still thankful for the interview, too. She made great points, as always and as expected. Can't wait to buy her book!
THIS IS THE COLLAB I NEEDED LETS GOOOO
This was such an empowering episode. So refreshing and inspiring to women. Love Drew so much for waking women up and MEN to the world we live in.
Sooooooo happy to see Drew on this show!! I'm reading her book now and she has helped me unpack so much. Truly one of my favorite creators and I'm glad to see her collab with so many other amazing creators.
I’m grateful for this discussion. Truly and deeply
Drew stands on business. She's so wonderful! Love her
i love drew so fucking much. she is a beacon in this dark ass world. intelligence beyond measure, eloquent and clear. not to mention an amazing writer and an overall beautiful human being.
Absolutely loved this whole conversation!
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First episode I’ve watched of the new podcast love it! Love Drew!
I love Drew and watching her videos but this really showed me how well-spoken she is! She spoke about everything SO WELL
Thankyou for making this you have no idea how much this means for a 19 yr old girl from the uk , you both give me hope ❤
I love Drew! Holding people accountable can look so many different ways ❤
I just found soul boom last week and I just keep coming back for more. This is my 4th episode in a week!
Deserves more likes. A good chatter and unboxing of important topics.
Nice work having Queen Drew on, Rainn. ✊
I am also doing 4b. Have been for 2 years. Its the best feeling in the world. I really recommend women to look into it and practice it. Its peaceful
Drew is one of the most attractive souls and personalities I’ve ever witnessed. God took his time with that one.
Drew I love you! Thank you Rainn for elevating this amazing person's platform. I can't wait to read the book!
me tearing up when he said she's a hero 🥺 i love them both! Drew is doing such great work!
It’s not women’s job to “nice” the hate out of men. It’s men’s job to figure out why they insist on projecting their own self hatred onto women simply living their life