So glad you like it...I hope it keeps other from making some of the mistakes we made over the years lol! Appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment!!!
Great video, I hope this inspires others to do something similar instead of leaving it out on the ground. On another note, we (my wife and I) use the old tried and true 5 gallon bucket with a trash bag and seat. We line the bag with 2 diapers, and fill a portion with a bit of kitty litter. And have several bags made inside of the toilet, that way when your done you pull the innermost one and have a fresh bag. We also use a coffee can that holds the poop tickets and a tad bit more kitty litter. We do have a privacy/shower tent. But we rarely use it. Since it's usually just us we keep in the annex. There isn't any smell to the tent, and it eliminates the need for a separate tent. We also have a trasharoo and similar steps are taken to keep everything sanitary. Thanks again for sharing this will, it's great content to share in hopes that not only do we keep public lands cleaner, but also make the trip out there a bit more comfortable.
Really great info here! If you have room I think the bucket seat is sometimes more comfortable than the Reliance seat - because it sits higher off the ground. We stopped using an annex when we got the new tent because it's 2X bigger and bulkier that our old one...but I was never tempted to put the bathroom in there...it sounds like you figured out how to do it in a way that's pretty clean though. Thanks for taking the time to share this. Pack in pack out - pass it on!!!!!
Several years ago on a guided climb of Mt Shasta we were issued brown paper bags for pooping. Inside was a 1 gallon ziplok bag and a 1 quart ziplok bag with kitty litter. The process was to tear open the brown bag and lay it flat. The inside of the bag was printed with a bullseye target. Someone had a sense of humor. You did your business on the target, then sprinkled the kitty litter from the 1 quart ziplok bag on the "material", roll up target bag with "material", and put in the 1 gallon ziplok bag. Done. You could make adjustments for vehicle travel. Nothing more disgusting than finding a camp spot, letting the dogs out until they find the previous person's "material" laying on the ground. I call this person Richard Head. If you use standard slang for the first name you'll see why I use this term.
Very nice. We use biodegradable bags and pine kitty litter in a Luggable Loo (bucket toilet). Since it's all biodegradable, we can throw it in the trash or bury it. We keep in a trasharoo also. The bucket provides excellent protection
I hear kitty litter quite a bit from folks....we've never tried it and are happy with the Ecco Gel we use...but Kitty Litter seems like it might be a lower cost alternative. The bucket approach is a good one - more comfortable seat..for us, we just need our gear to break down a bit smaller with our current set up. Really good info here - thank you for sharing I think these comments will really help folks who are looking to learn about this!
Camera looking out of the trasharoo and then from below the toilet is awesome! Great video Will. We also use the reliance toilet and the double doodie bags. Best set up so far.
Cool vid, yup, we all have to do it! Need to talk about it much more especially if you're new to dispersed camping / overlanding. Best is to pack it out. We use a porta-pottie (chemical toilet) and a privacy cubicle attached to the vehicle. Most common question usually is why right next to the vehicle, surely you want the cubicle further away. Well in the middle of the night I don't want to navigate hungry critters (i.e. lions, hyenas) on the way to the loo 😉
Lol. Thanks…I wish I had seen a vid like this when we were figuring this stuff out. Hope it helps folks! Really appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment!
Good video! This is one of the most necessary parts of the camping/overlanding experience. I can vouch for the Wolfwise toilet tent. Once you get the hang of the folding process it's pretty easy to do.
Thank you so much! I so agree about this being a very necessary subject...I wish there were more vids like this when we started. The Wolfwise....until you figure out the system...it's like the most frustrating thing..but then it's great. I used to be the guy who would go through camp and break everyone else's wolfwise down lol.
Back in the day when Overlanding was called 'Camping' and we didn't have all of these new products (which are way cool and helps get my wife out there) I took an old folding camp chair and mounted a toilet seat on hinges (so it still folded) and would dig a small pit place a small kitchen back in the pit and do our business. Now we have a similar set-up and I feel like it is Glamping but so much nicer in the winter hunting in the high country - yup I am spoiled now.... Thanks for the video - well done..
It's OK to be a little spoiled when your out there...especially since this set up is one of the rare things in Overlanding that doesn't cost an arm and a leg! I think it takes someone who's dug holes to truly understand the luxury of this fairly rustic setup lol...it's so cool to hear your wife is getting out with you too. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!!!
Thank you!! We've been using a really good setup but our setup is bigger ... The Cabela's throne and the Kelty bunkhouse and it's been really great, we use clumping cat litter, but what you use is so much smaller, so we're good to try this! Thank you!!
Plus 1 on the Wolfwise. Mine lives in the 4Runner. Poop tent, shower tent, privacy tent. Inexpensive. Weighs nothing. I have permanent guy lines attached and stakes in the zip bag because she will blow away. Great vid!
Great video Will and definitely the most informative I've seen on the subject. I have the same toilet and bags (walmart version) but have yet to use them so this gives me the extra instruction I needed to make the process go smoothly.
I think I ordered like 20 boxes of those bags at some point - just so we'd always have some in stock before going out...The Walmart versions were just as good in my opinion. I have some horror stories from not using these things correctly - and so I wished there was a video like this I could have watched! Thanks so much for taking the time to comment here - I think it will help folks who read the comments!
Thanks so much for taking on this subject. This is so incredibly helpful for us. My wife was just asking me the other day about this topic, and here it is. We’ll definitely look into some of these product recommendations.
This is interesting. Going to be honest, the way we've been camping, we've been digging catholes backpacking style for years now. We just never are around other people, always have a shovel, taught the kids to dig holes as well since we're backpackers and pack out the TP. But recently, we decided to camp along the south fork. (talk about crowds of people) And for the first time ever, there was really no where private from the road to scurry off to and dig a hole. And this presented a challenge, since we have no shelter for this with the girls. I couldn't find a suttble location. Luckily where I chose to setup about 500yrds was one of those horse camps with a pit toliet, so I made them walk down the road. But it got me thinking about this topic. Especially since I haven't really taken them camping in the desert. It's one thing for you and your buddies and be like "Yo I'm digging a hole in front of my truck" - it's another to be out with wives and kids and other peoples wives and kids. This is def a setup we need to start incorperating. I've always applied my minimilist backpacking experince to my overlanding (which is why I always make fun of other dudes with overloaded Tacomas about how much gear you really need :P ) but alias, this is something I need to tackle now.
Awesome comment! There's nothing wrong with digging a hole..in fact, walking away from camp to get privacy is probably a better practice in terms of keeping wild animals out of camp. I like just having this stuff in the spare tire bag, so it's always there if we need it...which isn't 100% of the time...but with kids, I've found it to be a really nice set up, so they have privacy...we use the Wolfwise tent as a shower tent too..so that's been a nice secondary use as well. Thank you so much for sharing your experience and perspective here - I really think it will help folks out who are reading the comments!
Total newbie here - where do you dispose of the waste? I have seen people mention throwing it in the trash, but since it is human waste I assume this is a special trash at campsites? Or do you just carry it home with you? Or can it really just go in the trash?
Some places will have specific locations you can take the bags. I found this out while researching for an upcoming Moab trip. They have a couple disposal cans available where you can put them. They prefer you not throw them in the regular trash.
We don’t use a tent.. we just go out in the woods with a shovel and or the toilet with bags depends on the atmosphere and scenarios. Been in many situations lol
I got a wolf wise toilet tent. Later I purchased a large solar shower bag. Then I realized that the wolf wise poles can't support the solar shower bag. So I need to shop for a tent with heavy duty poles to support the solar shower bag.
It is the "800 pound gorilla" outdoors. So many times I find a beautiful campsite only to find evidence of Homus Stupidus, so thank you for your PSA. Great information. BTW, there is also a need to manage your dogo's poop. Leave it better than you found it!
I know this is an old comment, but... How did you train your dogs to use the toilet seat? 😂 Seriously, as a dog person with 2 pups that camp with us, THANK YOU for stating what should be obvious. Sad that people DON'T clean up after their pets.
GREAT POINT! I should have included that. We always dispose of our trash/waste in designated dumpsters (at campgrounds we pass on the trail) or pack it all the way home and dispose of it there.
Well this video was a bunch of crap.... Haha, seriously, great job! That's pretty much exactly how we do our bathroom setup. I decided right off the bat, that everyone gets their own bag every time. No way I'm dealing with over flow...
Place the black inner liner of the bag up and around the toilet seat and pinch it between the lower seat. That way you're sitting on the bag, the toilet seat stays clean and everything makes it into the bag.
I might suggest swapping those gloves out for the home depot chemical protection gloves, they're essentially tall black rubber gloves like the ones you might find under your sink but better, just under 5 bucks usd, because after all if the doo doo can soak through your gloves, then what's the point of gloves?!
Yea, plus It sounds like you learned your lesson so I doubt your gonna let it happen again, but those rubber ones are washable/ reusable and cotton lined but not so thick like some that makes them hard to use your fingers properly, so highly recommended great vid!
You just put it outside of camp a ways...or seal up the bags at night. That said, we've never seen any evidence of animals trying to get in during the night..and we've camped in bear country quite a bit.
@@Venture2Roam Thought that might be the case. I don't think I've ever heard of a case of a bear breaking into an outhouse. Not as cool as a the wrappon but way cheaper. And probably lighter too.
Girls aren’t the dainty poopers you allege them to be. Most throw down mighty Cleveland Steamers after a couple days of camp fare. They’d have us believe they pinch off cute little owl pellets, but no.
@@Venture2Roam Whatever moron. Shitting in a hole and burying it is not the same as littering. Carrying your shit around with you in a bag is sick and wrong.
I didn't mean to insult you by referring to leave no trace...not sure why you called me a moron. In any case, you might want to take a quick read of the Leave No Trace principles. Here's the link to the section on waste management. You can agree or disagree with the approach, but it's my frame of reference: lnt.org/why/7-principles/dispose-of-waste-properly/
@@Venture2Roam You're a moron if you think you need to haul your own feces out of the forest. You're supposed to bury it like people have been doing for millennia. Since we're trading reading advice, you might want to take a quick read of Deuteronomy chapter 23 verses 10-13, you know, because sanitation was a thing even back then.
I used to that..but it can get messy fast with a group any any size…it also makes using a seat really messy. The bags keep everything much cleaner, keep smells down, and allow you to leave much less of a footprint.
This is amazing! It’s something that we have all had/have questions about, but no one talks about. Thank you for the info.
So glad you like it...I hope it keeps other from making some of the mistakes we made over the years lol! Appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment!!!
Great video, I hope this inspires others to do something similar instead of leaving it out on the ground. On another note, we (my wife and I) use the old tried and true 5 gallon bucket with a trash bag and seat. We line the bag with 2 diapers, and fill a portion with a bit of kitty litter. And have several bags made inside of the toilet, that way when your done you pull the innermost one and have a fresh bag. We also use a coffee can that holds the poop tickets and a tad bit more kitty litter. We do have a privacy/shower tent. But we rarely use it. Since it's usually just us we keep in the annex. There isn't any smell to the tent, and it eliminates the need for a separate tent. We also have a trasharoo and similar steps are taken to keep everything sanitary. Thanks again for sharing this will, it's great content to share in hopes that not only do we keep public lands cleaner, but also make the trip out there a bit more comfortable.
Really great info here! If you have room I think the bucket seat is sometimes more comfortable than the Reliance seat - because it sits higher off the ground. We stopped using an annex when we got the new tent because it's 2X bigger and bulkier that our old one...but I was never tempted to put the bathroom in there...it sounds like you figured out how to do it in a way that's pretty clean though. Thanks for taking the time to share this. Pack in pack out - pass it on!!!!!
Several years ago on a guided climb of Mt Shasta we were issued brown paper bags for pooping. Inside was a 1 gallon ziplok bag and a 1 quart ziplok bag with kitty litter. The process was to tear open the brown bag and lay it flat. The inside of the bag was printed with a bullseye target. Someone had a sense of humor. You did your business on the target, then sprinkled the kitty litter from the 1 quart ziplok bag on the "material", roll up target bag with "material", and put in the 1 gallon ziplok bag. Done.
You could make adjustments for vehicle travel. Nothing more disgusting than finding a camp spot, letting the dogs out until they find the previous person's "material" laying on the ground. I call this person Richard Head. If you use standard slang for the first name you'll see why I use this term.
Dude! You just saved me so much time and research. I’m going to do the same exact setup!
I’m still using amongst the exact same setup. Still works great!
Very nice. We use biodegradable bags and pine kitty litter in a Luggable Loo (bucket toilet). Since it's all biodegradable, we can throw it in the trash or bury it. We keep in a trasharoo also. The bucket provides excellent protection
I hear kitty litter quite a bit from folks....we've never tried it and are happy with the Ecco Gel we use...but Kitty Litter seems like it might be a lower cost alternative. The bucket approach is a good one - more comfortable seat..for us, we just need our gear to break down a bit smaller with our current set up. Really good info here - thank you for sharing I think these comments will really help folks who are looking to learn about this!
@@Venture2Roam thank you! It's great to get ideas from lots of people. Glad you posted about something few people seem to talk about.
A year later, still a gem. Good stuff man! And, something that will be very useful to my wife and I next month. 😊
Glad you are finding it useful! Hope you have an awesome trip next month!
Camera looking out of the trasharoo and then from below the toilet is awesome! Great video Will. We also use the reliance toilet and the double doodie bags. Best set up so far.
Thanks for watching!! Can’t bear those double doodies lol!!!
Cool vid, yup, we all have to do it! Need to talk about it much more especially if you're new to dispersed camping / overlanding. Best is to pack it out. We use a porta-pottie (chemical toilet) and a privacy cubicle attached to the vehicle. Most common question usually is why right next to the vehicle, surely you want the cubicle further away. Well in the middle of the night I don't want to navigate hungry critters (i.e. lions, hyenas) on the way to the loo 😉
Really great info Christoff! We used to put it farther away from the tent…but hav gradually moved it closer.
Good pointer about the overloaded bags.. Been in that shituation myself...
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A very "Advise Situation"! But you handled it well. Thanks for all the tips and tricks!
Lol. Thanks…I wish I had seen a vid like this when we were figuring this stuff out. Hope it helps folks! Really appreciate you watching and taking the time to comment!
Good video! This is one of the most necessary parts of the camping/overlanding experience. I can vouch for the Wolfwise toilet tent. Once you get the hang of the folding process it's pretty easy to do.
Thank you so much! I so agree about this being a very necessary subject...I wish there were more vids like this when we started. The Wolfwise....until you figure out the system...it's like the most frustrating thing..but then it's great. I used to be the guy who would go through camp and break everyone else's wolfwise down lol.
@@Venture2Roam The hero we didn't know we needed!
@@DixieOverland 🤣
Back in the day when Overlanding was called 'Camping' and we didn't have all of these new products (which are way cool and helps get my wife out there) I took an old folding camp chair and mounted a toilet seat on hinges (so it still folded) and would dig a small pit place a small kitchen back in the pit and do our business. Now we have a similar set-up and I feel like it is Glamping but so much nicer in the winter hunting in the high country - yup I am spoiled now.... Thanks for the video - well done..
It's OK to be a little spoiled when your out there...especially since this set up is one of the rare things in Overlanding that doesn't cost an arm and a leg! I think it takes someone who's dug holes to truly understand the luxury of this fairly rustic setup lol...it's so cool to hear your wife is getting out with you too. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!!!
Thank you!! We've been using a really good setup but our setup is bigger ... The Cabela's throne and the Kelty bunkhouse and it's been really great, we use clumping cat litter, but what you use is so much smaller, so we're good to try this! Thank you!!
So glad you found it helpful!! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
Plus 1 on the Wolfwise. Mine lives in the 4Runner. Poop tent, shower tent, privacy tent. Inexpensive. Weighs nothing. I have permanent guy lines attached and stakes in the zip bag because she will blow away. Great vid!
I might try keeping guy lines on it…that’s a great idea!!
Great video Will and definitely the most informative I've seen on the subject. I have the same toilet and bags (walmart version) but have yet to use them so this gives me the extra instruction I needed to make the process go smoothly.
I think I ordered like 20 boxes of those bags at some point - just so we'd always have some in stock before going out...The Walmart versions were just as good in my opinion. I have some horror stories from not using these things correctly - and so I wished there was a video like this I could have watched! Thanks so much for taking the time to comment here - I think it will help folks who read the comments!
Thanks so much for taking on this subject.
This is so incredibly helpful for us.
My wife was just asking me the other day about this topic, and here it is.
We’ll definitely look into some of these product recommendations.
So glad it was helpful! I still use this setup. Works great!
Thank you ! I had quite a time trying to get the pop up back into it's pouch!
So glad it was helpful!!! That pop up tent can be so frustrating if you don’t do it that specific way. Cheers!
I recently switched to the InstaPrivy! Game changer!
Awesome video!
Very informative!
Glad it was helpful!!
This is interesting. Going to be honest, the way we've been camping, we've been digging catholes backpacking style for years now. We just never are around other people, always have a shovel, taught the kids to dig holes as well since we're backpackers and pack out the TP.
But recently, we decided to camp along the south fork. (talk about crowds of people) And for the first time ever, there was really no where private from the road to scurry off to and dig a hole. And this presented a challenge, since we have no shelter for this with the girls. I couldn't find a suttble location. Luckily where I chose to setup about 500yrds was one of those horse camps with a pit toliet, so I made them walk down the road.
But it got me thinking about this topic. Especially since I haven't really taken them camping in the desert. It's one thing for you and your buddies and be like "Yo I'm digging a hole in front of my truck" - it's another to be out with wives and kids and other peoples wives and kids.
This is def a setup we need to start incorperating. I've always applied my minimilist backpacking experince to my overlanding (which is why I always make fun of other dudes with overloaded Tacomas about how much gear you really need :P ) but alias, this is something I need to tackle now.
Awesome comment! There's nothing wrong with digging a hole..in fact, walking away from camp to get privacy is probably a better practice in terms of keeping wild animals out of camp. I like just having this stuff in the spare tire bag, so it's always there if we need it...which isn't 100% of the time...but with kids, I've found it to be a really nice set up, so they have privacy...we use the Wolfwise tent as a shower tent too..so that's been a nice secondary use as well. Thank you so much for sharing your experience and perspective here - I really think it will help folks out who are reading the comments!
What about showering? Do you have a video addressing showering? Products you recommend?
I don't have a shower video yet, but might do one soon.
Great tips! Thank you so much for sharing what you’ve figured out. I already know I will be using most of them!
Glad it was useful!!!
nice man, love the gear review with a little humor added!
Thank you sir! This is stuff I wish I would have known when starting out - hope it helps some folks down the road!
GR8 Video😊
Thank you. Hope it was helpful!
Thanks for the tip on the eco gel. Ordered!
You’re welcome…and thank you.
We just ordered ours for our first camping trip of the summer. We’re coming from a 45’ 5th wheel to a tent so this should be interesting
That's a big change!! Good luck and keep me posted!
I camp with my fiancé.. we have a cvt shower/toilet tent. Different commode but definitely the reliance bags.
Those reliance bags are great. I like those CVT tents. Thanks for the comment!!
Your videos are the shit. Good talk.
Best. Comment. Ever. 😂
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Total newbie here - where do you dispose of the waste? I have seen people mention throwing it in the trash, but since it is human waste I assume this is a special trash at campsites? Or do you just carry it home with you? Or can it really just go in the trash?
It just goes in the trash.
Great video, I was curious what if anything you do for showering?
We use the bathroom tent, and a Gyeser shower system. Love it.
This is a shitty conversation. Im glad you had it with us. Thanks!!!
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How to dispose of the bags? Surely they do not go into the garbage? Do parks have receptacles that accept bags? Thank you!
They go into the garbage. Same as diapers, doggie bags, etc.
Some places will have specific locations you can take the bags. I found this out while researching for an upcoming Moab trip. They have a couple disposal cans available where you can put them. They prefer you not throw them in the regular trash.
We don’t use a tent.. we just go out in the woods with a shovel and or the toilet with bags depends on the atmosphere and scenarios. Been in many situations lol
All Natuuuurahl. Lol. 😂
We have the OVS privacy tent and a fold up commode. I call it...
The Pooperdome.
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Actually the same one you guys have, hahaha
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Pooperdome makes it kind sound like a sport lol.
@@Venture2Roam 🤣 I guess that depends who cooks camp dinner 🤷♂️
I got a wolf wise toilet tent.
Later I purchased a large solar shower bag.
Then I realized that the wolf wise poles can't support the solar shower bag.
So I need to shop for a tent with heavy duty poles to support the solar shower bag.
Oh ya, that would just make the Wolfwise collapse! There are stronger ones out there, they are just heavier and less compact. Good luck!!!
Is that Wolfwise tent fully NONtransparent?
Yes. You can see shadows of the sun is at the right spot..but we’ve found to be private enough.
and how much dose it cost? the t seat
I think it was around $50. amzn.to/3TJMqmv
I am from BD and I stoped camping for that reason and we haven’t amazon yet. So there's no chance I can continue my camping.
4:14 - lol - he said "double dootie". :-)
LOL. That's what they are actually named. amzn.to/3A35ina At least they have a sense of humor!
It is the "800 pound gorilla" outdoors. So many times I find a beautiful campsite only to find evidence of Homus Stupidus, so thank you for your PSA. Great information. BTW, there is also a need to manage your dogo's poop. Leave it better than you found it!
Great comment on Pets. We don't have a dog, so it didn't occur to me to put that in there...but it's a real thing. Thanks again for the great comment!
I know this is an old comment, but...
How did you train your dogs to use the toilet seat? 😂
Seriously, as a dog person with 2 pups that camp with us, THANK YOU for stating what should be obvious. Sad that people DON'T clean up after their pets.
You didn’t say what you’re doing with the bags of waste. Where and how are you disposing of them?
GREAT POINT! I should have included that. We always dispose of our trash/waste in designated dumpsters (at campgrounds we pass on the trail) or pack it all the way home and dispose of it there.
Well this video was a bunch of crap.... Haha, seriously, great job! That's pretty much exactly how we do our bathroom setup. I decided right off the bat, that everyone gets their own bag every time. No way I'm dealing with over flow...
LOL. I have some very disgusting overlflow stories that will haunt me until the day I die....
Tripod lake?
It does kind of look like Tripod…but this was near the Little Payette.
Place the black inner liner of the bag up and around the toilet seat and pinch it between the lower seat. That way you're sitting on the bag, the toilet seat stays clean and everything makes it into the bag.
So you're sitting on the bag?
@@Venture2Roam Yes. This keeps the toilet seat clean, especially for multiple users.
I might suggest swapping those gloves out for the home depot chemical protection gloves, they're essentially tall black rubber gloves like the ones you might find under your sink but better, just under 5 bucks usd, because after all if the doo doo can soak through your gloves, then what's the point of gloves?!
That’s not a bad idea…I’m ok with throwing out my gloves if/when something really gross happens.
Yea, plus It sounds like you learned your lesson so I doubt your gonna let it happen again, but those rubber ones are washable/ reusable and cotton lined but not so thick like some that makes them hard to use your fingers properly, so highly recommended great vid!
How's that work in Bear Country?
You just put it outside of camp a ways...or seal up the bags at night. That said, we've never seen any evidence of animals trying to get in during the night..and we've camped in bear country quite a bit.
@@Venture2Roam Thought that might be the case. I don't think I've ever heard of a case of a bear breaking into an outhouse. Not as cool as a the wrappon but way cheaper. And probably lighter too.
Girls aren’t the dainty poopers you allege them to be. Most throw down mighty Cleveland Steamers after a couple days of camp fare. They’d have us believe they pinch off cute little owl pellets, but no.
Lol. All the more reason to change the bag!!!
Wait, girls poop😮🤔
What's with crapping in bags and toting it around with you? You crap in a hole and bury it.
Pack it in, pack it out. Leave no trace.
@@Venture2Roam Whatever moron. Shitting in a hole and burying it is not the same as littering. Carrying your shit around with you in a bag is sick and wrong.
I didn't mean to insult you by referring to leave no trace...not sure why you called me a moron. In any case, you might want to take a quick read of the Leave No Trace principles. Here's the link to the section on waste management. You can agree or disagree with the approach, but it's my frame of reference: lnt.org/why/7-principles/dispose-of-waste-properly/
@@Venture2Roam
You're a moron if you think you need to haul your own feces out of the forest.
You're supposed to bury it like people have been doing for millennia.
Since we're trading reading advice, you might want to take a quick read of Deuteronomy
chapter 23 verses 10-13, you know, because sanitation was a thing even back then.
Why use a bag when you can dig a hole?
I used to that..but it can get messy fast with a group any any size…it also makes using a seat really messy. The bags keep everything much cleaner, keep smells down, and allow you to leave much less of a footprint.
@@Venture2Roam good points. Thanks. Starting to go out with my family this year. 4 year old seems mature enough for it :p
We started with our kids around that age. They get filthy and get into everything...but it's was very doable.
The eco gel's purpose on the environment is useless if we are using these military grade thick bags haha.
There more environmentally friendly options I suppose. But if you pack in and pack out like we do, a spill proof bag is very nice.
No! We can’t talk about this in public! 🫣
Lol 😂😂
@@Venture2Roam It’s just so uncomfortable 😳 but thank you for making this video!