Octavia Build - door sound treatment

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  • @leif8436
    @leif8436 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    This is the first Acoustic Treatment video I've seen with sensible measurements. All the other ones are either just driving and showing a dB difference or nothing at all. But that doesn't tell the whole story. Thank you so much for your efforts to explain and show us your results!

  • @GuitarTherapy144
    @GuitarTherapy144 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Watched the video 2 times. I treaat your channel as a school class. Thanks for the upload!

    • @RAW-CAt
      @RAW-CAt  วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Glad to hear that. The next one will be very cool 😎

  • @Mph82
    @Mph82 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Dude you are doing the best car audio videos. So much insight and detail. Love it

  • @Jake-kb2le
    @Jake-kb2le วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    One of my favorites videos so far, didn't even know that there's such a good way to find rattling parts. Nice job as always

    • @JasonWW2000
      @JasonWW2000 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Sure, a free tone generator app on your phone is all you need.

  • @kylebetchuk2114
    @kylebetchuk2114 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have only just started this video, and I got thinking, I hope your channel gets so big you can just made car audio content for a living and u dont have to work your other job. I f#@king love it. Informative. Realistic. And you just explain stuff so well. Even with your Accent. ( I'm Canadian ). Cheers raw cat. Thanks for your work. Your a genius.

  • @georgeperez4231
    @georgeperez4231 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Your knowledge is very valuable extremely detailed. I’ve gained so much knowledge about the importance of measurements..Coming from over the pond. Many thanks 😊

  • @raidiadlila
    @raidiadlila วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    the amount of work and effort is amazing. Love it, cant wait for the next one!

  • @diamondsink2000
    @diamondsink2000 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    You need to build yourself a car port. Nice work running through the freq to find the rattles

  • @xTinBenderX
    @xTinBenderX 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Your effort to prove all the possible acoustic variables is exemplary!

  • @ConradBrander
    @ConradBrander 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Outstanding video.
    Your willingness to seperate and sound test the various stages of the build, along with the road noise while dealing both weather and family is absolutely impressive and commendable!!
    Much thanks, and please keep it up!! These videos are head and shoulders above anything else out there.

  • @Randy_G
    @Randy_G วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    OMG i am so excited to watch this unprecedented study! Thank you

  • @stelzacharias2508
    @stelzacharias2508 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Love how you explain in detail and you go in to depth with everything and I’m sure you will have a great build in the Skoda keep up the good work 👍

  • @Gomez561
    @Gomez561 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Absolutely love how you’re documenting this whole process with before and after measurements! I did my best to sound-deaden and dampen everything in my doors along with enclosing the inner shell with PVC paneling and the mid bass from my 3 way JBL components is glorious. Tried my best but still get rattles/vibrations at certain frequencies which drive me crazy after doing all of that work. I like the idea of mounting the midbass drivers in the kick panels to be away from so many vibration issues. Keep up the awesome work with your vids!

    • @Gomez561
      @Gomez561 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I tried to document most of my install on my TH-cam channel and that alone is a ton of work. You’re vids are top notch for the DIY community ✌🏼

  • @neilziesmer6109
    @neilziesmer6109 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    NICE JOB , WELL DONE . PROPER DOOR TREATMENT ...

  • @CarAcoustics
    @CarAcoustics 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love your approach to these videos. Better than any real tutorial, pure tips & tricks :D
    About checking the road noise before and after - have you taken into consideration things like wind, road wetness, other cars etc? I've been playing around with these kind of measurements for some time (sharing outputs on my channel) and they're trickier than they seem at first.

  • @customspeakerpods5078
    @customspeakerpods5078 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Above and beyond as always!

  • @cromagnon305
    @cromagnon305 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hello lovely person. Keep these videos coming. Merry Christmas

  • @onkyo69
    @onkyo69 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great job, cant wait to see the results.

  • @Mph82
    @Mph82 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Maybe you want to try speaker boxes under the seats as i did with my golf mk7. On these skodas you would be able to fit 5 to 6 liters easy under each seat for a 6.5 speaker and then let them play up to 150 or 200hz. Absolutely zero rattles and the frequency responses between left and right are way more equal than with door speakers

  • @VladC6
    @VladC6 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Thanks!

  • @diegoleiva1709
    @diegoleiva1709 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    toda esta informacion es muy valiosa ya que nadie te explica ni hace las pruebas que haces vos gracias por tu tiempo dedicado y tus videos.

  • @kerwincaesar4100
    @kerwincaesar4100 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Can you do measurements of each front doors just as it is in the video except just remove all treatments to the left door card (ie remove the open cell foam and deadening applied to the left door card ony). Leave the right door with the stock speaker and all treatments to it

  • @davidallison976
    @davidallison976 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    My friend, similar issue with power door locks. I used thin rubber washers under the bolts between metal and plastic. Seems to have fixed the issue. May be worth a try?

  • @ryandalrymple5636
    @ryandalrymple5636 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for all you do and Merry Christmas! This is a lengthy message, so I apologize ahead of time.
    I'm 51, in the USA (Waco, Texas) and getting back into car audio as a hobby after a 30 year absence for Home Theater. I hit you with a question a week so or so ago in one of your videos.
    Ironically, I had just watched the 3-years old series for Cheap Sound Quality, which included sound-proofing a vehicle from PSSound. Since these videos were from three years ago, I was going to write Peter and ask if he would change anything today. Your video today was basically the same, so I will send my question your way.
    I have a new 2025 Toyota Highlander Hybrid Platinum incoming and have begun preparing for the sound dampening/sound proofing, which I will do immediately and then do the sound system in February or March wiht a local installer. I ordered the CLD two weeks ago, 60 sq-ft Mega CLD from Resonix and 60 Sq-ft Kno Knoise XT from KnuKonceptz. Both have the same specs on paper. I bought both to compare. I had already sourced the CCF. I was planning to use it in the door panels, floor and headliner around the sunroof.
    After ordering the Mega CLD, I reached out to Nick at Resonix and he was fairly adamant that I stay away from using CCF in the door panel and that it would be a waste of time. He said I would have superior results using his Resonix Fiber Mat instead. I realize he has a potential bias because he sells his own material. Anyway, I had watched Peter's videos and thought that the thinking about CCF had changed in three years. Then I watched your video today. So, now I'm conflicted as to which material to use.
    What would be your thoughts on this? I understand you may not have used the Fiber Mat material that Nick sells, but you and Peter have obviously used the CCF in the door panels and you have a lot of experience. Naturally, I am very curious to see the measurement results when you post them.
    If you want to see the entire build plans, I can figure out a way to get the plans to you.

    • @RAW-CAt
      @RAW-CAt  6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for a very generous donation☺️ The difference between CCF and OCF is their sound absorption characteristics. Open cell foam is simply more effective at absorbing sound. The Resonix Fiber mat has the effectiveness of OCF just in a slightly different package. The main advantage of the Fiber mat is that it's waterproof, same as CCF, so can be used anywhere. Fiber mat has the best of both worlds. If choosing between CCF and OCF, you choose based on moisture. If the place you are treating can get wet, CCF is a better choice. If it's always dry, like a roof, you put OCF. Fiber mat is an exception as it can be used anywhere. Hope that helps.

    • @ryandalrymple5636
      @ryandalrymple5636 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @ understood. I’ll ask a different question…if you had access to both without worrying about the $ hit, would you still use the CCF in the door panel (not the cavity as it’s a wet environment)? I just want to do this once and not worry about it again. (Says EVERY person in this hobby!)

    • @RAW-CAt
      @RAW-CAt  6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@ryandalrymple5636 nah, I would use fiber mat everywhere 😂

    • @ryandalrymple5636
      @ryandalrymple5636 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@RAW-CAt Dang! I was afraid of that. At $90 USD for 10.9 sq-ft, I’m about to get into trouble. 22 years of marriage and I still haven’t figured out the Spousal Approval Factor (SAF). Guess I’ll have to beg for forgiveness later. Seriously, Much appreciated. Have a great holiday!

    • @JasonWW2000
      @JasonWW2000 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@ryandalrymple5636 I used a pragmatic approach. I did my front doors a bit overkill, because I do have mid range drivers in them. Then I listened to where I head noise coming into the vehicle, and then I treated those areas. And then the next loudest thing became apparent, so I treated that. Eventually you get the vehicle quiet enough that your satisfied with it.
      If you just buy a lot of materials and try to treat everything all at once, you tend to treat areas that don't need it and waste time and money. 👍

  • @gamecock2465
    @gamecock2465 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Replacing all the door clips would probably be money well spent. Especially on the last install so you know they are as tight as possible.

  • @mjmorris72034
    @mjmorris72034 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    @ RAW-CAt do have links for long handled roller and trim panel pliers or at least the brand information that I can look them up. Thank you for the informative video sir.

    • @RAW-CAt
      @RAW-CAt  6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The roller is from.Vibrofiltr, they sell it with the deadener. The pliers are from AliExpress:
      a.aliexpress.com/_EGhK01K

  • @johnnygandy3931
    @johnnygandy3931 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent

  • @MrElliotGear
    @MrElliotGear วันที่ผ่านมา

    where is the strip foam from you show at 39:20 ? I need this

    • @RAW-CAt
      @RAW-CAt  วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      1mm thick CCF gasket AliExpress special😉

  • @colbylaro9361
    @colbylaro9361 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I just like that word "skoda"

  • @paulwisdom5383
    @paulwisdom5383 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    So close Skoda. On the Mk2 you made a beautiful removable metal inner panel that made treatment and upgrading so easy. But you stuck the midbass by my arse cheeks. On the Mk3 you stuck the midbass back where it should be, and made it a solid inside door with no frame 🤣

  • @eustahijelifetips
    @eustahijelifetips 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Alright, so, i did almost all of that but, where two different parts meet, instead of a decoupling layer that i couldnt smash inside, i did pour in polyurethane glue, it works like a charm, stiffens the card up yet also removes any chance of rattles, hollow areas are also to be filled with Pu foam, i found it to be a good material since it bonds everything, and seals up nice, its not visible too, one good thing also is to put a layer of fiberglass on thin surfaces that would deflect easy, also stiffens it up good, otherwise, one needs to plan which materials can use because of the thickness and clearance issues that come with too thick deadening materials

    • @RAW-CAt
      @RAW-CAt  6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, some doors have absolutely no space. I am lucky that this Škoda has very accommodating door panels. I wanted to use fiberglass, but I was told that while curing, it can wrap the panels so decided not to risk it.

    • @eustahijelifetips
      @eustahijelifetips 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @RAW-CAt if the door card is made from cork, one just needs to clean it up first and apply a layer or two of resin so the laminate will stick to it better, cork, being pourous is pretty soft of a material, and if its coupled with hard plastics, it will deteriorate with time, both my old passat b4 and current w203 use similar materials and i didnt have problems with shrinking or warping in either case, though, i didnt laminate them completely because it didnt make sense to do that on the frame-y parts that add structure and stability to the cards already, however, the w203 is already a good built car and the door cards are certainly not a serviceable part from the manufacturer, they are glued onto the doors in a few places, and i tried to find a thin material but the clearance was so tight i couldnt fit the cards like they were, they stick out on the top, good thing i made enclosures for the doors, unfortunately, the doors are of an old design so i wish best of luck to all the mid 2000's MB owners, i think, no amount of deadening inside and out will make a big difference because of the huge, gaping holes that are only covered by thin ccf that just serves as a water protector, mostly

  • @Htk-es1ky
    @Htk-es1ky 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    what is the software which you are using ?

    • @RAW-CAt
      @RAW-CAt  21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      REW

  • @408SPLKINGS
    @408SPLKINGS 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    As always great content lessons tutorials advice video audio editing skills craftsmanship creativity execution 🚗🔊🎵🎶🎼🙏

  • @rummuhe1492
    @rummuhe1492 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    if you haven't completed the damping yet, can you measure, on the other hand, finally also the damping of the so-called cardboard, i.e. the innermost, i.e. without sheet metal damping. i.e. the opposite of what was intended? guess that the biggest effect. if you understood/could explain?

    • @rummuhe1492
      @rummuhe1492 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      look to the end, before you ask stupid questions 🤦, you had already taken the matter into account.. but in this case there was also a good Door trim ready from the factory.

  • @FAS_M6
    @FAS_M6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wish you could have got mazda 6 and do this tests

  • @Jake-kb2le
    @Jake-kb2le วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hmm isn't mdf better than aluminum for sound quality?

    • @RAW-CAt
      @RAW-CAt  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      MDF is a porous material that absorbs moisture, expands and becomes weak over time in car door environment. It's good for subwoofer boxes though.

    • @el_taiito5492
      @el_taiito5492 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      not really, at least for the speaker ring, stiffer is better, aluminium is better for this. This add some strength to the door panel around the speaker too, a tad more than MDF

    • @timothy5977
      @timothy5977 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Those are the best rings I've ever seen!!! I've cracked so many plastic pos and mdf rings before

    • @Jake-kb2le
      @Jake-kb2le 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Okay, very valid points. I actually destroyed MDF in my car because of moisture. However, the aluminum ring from this video won't fit my car. I think I found an alternative in China, but these rings are about 2 cm shallower than the ones I have right now. I wonder if that will negatively affect the sound.

  • @ah4800
    @ah4800 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'll trade you weather. -30 here

    • @RAW-CAt
      @RAW-CAt  20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      🥶

  • @mishavo1291
    @mishavo1291 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the measurements! But i not belive that you have find the closed cell "Wave" material, check it by water test.

    • @RAW-CAt
      @RAW-CAt  18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Inside the door the foam is closed cell and waterproof. On the door card is open cell.

  • @CosminCraiova
    @CosminCraiova วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Hello ! Great job on the deadening ! The only thing I would do is to completly seal those plastic service pannels with vibrofiltr. Those move like crazy at high volume so they produce resonance that produces distorsion ! I have 2 layers of deadening over my pannels lol :)
    PS : where did you get that player for removing the door cards from minute 34 th-cam.com/video/lczZXwZ7d-Y/w-d-xo.html ? It looks like a nice little tool ! Thx !

    • @RAW-CAt
      @RAW-CAt  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I might cover them up, thanks for the advice. You can find the tool here:
      a.aliexpress.com/_EJFL12u

    • @CosminCraiova
      @CosminCraiova วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@RAW-CAt thank you !

    • @el_taiito5492
      @el_taiito5492 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Find the good weight so they can act like passive radiators 😂

  • @kraken2109
    @kraken2109 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Do you do this professionally as a business, or is this just a very serious hobby for you?

    • @RAW-CAt
      @RAW-CAt  3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      This is my hobby that I can allocate 5-10 hours a week. I have a full time job not related to car audio.

  • @chloeleedow7250
    @chloeleedow7250 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Not sure why skoda put that door control module on the plastic how stupid, my Golf door is super similar but doesn't rattle at all because a few things have been arranged differently. On the whole vag cars are great without too much work unlike my old Japanese cars. My golf is pretty new too so might get more rattly as I go 😂

  • @soitiharada9063
    @soitiharada9063 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just curiosity why manual transmission car? I love manuals, but here in japan, 90% or more is automatic transmission

    • @MrElliotGear
      @MrElliotGear วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      he is in the UK, here in the uk 90% of us drive manuals, we like a bit more control over the gears and something to play with :D

    • @XtrAMassivE
      @XtrAMassivE วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Traditionally Europe was majority manual transmission, only lately automatic is becoming more popular. Manual just offers better driving experience and more control. In bigger cities people prefer automatic because of slow moving traffic but outside of it manual rules.

  • @petereckerwall9423
    @petereckerwall9423 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This video was a little bit painful to listen to with good headphones.. 🤣♥️🇸🇪

  • @malucosom
    @malucosom 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Nice Job, But the midbass in this car will always sounds at right center due to the problems with central tunel! I tried everything on this car But no way!

  • @LansaDiag
    @LansaDiag วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is getting increasingly unbearable to listen to. The endless rambling, the constant distractions

    • @RAW-CAt
      @RAW-CAt  วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Yeah I know. I am doing this on purpose to shed some subs. I would recommend you to find some other channels that mostly do time lapse videos or demos over YT. I understand that my content is not for everyone, but I never asked you to subscribe🤷

    • @chokboywonda
      @chokboywonda วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Ignore him, ramble away.
      All the details are in the ramblings and not everybody appreciates detail these days.
      Keep up your good work 👍

    • @customspeakerpods5078
      @customspeakerpods5078 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      I personally enjoy the ramblings, this is as close to doing the job yourself as it can be!

    • @colbylaro9361
      @colbylaro9361 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Why are you here if it's unbearable? Go watch videos of trunk rattles and hair tricks.

    • @408SPLKINGS
      @408SPLKINGS 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      In school there's general education & classes you have to attend, this is an elective, a class you choose to attend...
      Class dismissed schools out sucka