Sucks to break down. But what a view! Incredibly gorgeous place to be stuck. I’m pleased to see that all three of you guys don’t just arbitrarily squish the little critters. Thanks for showing care for the environment in several different ways.
Thanks for the reminder to check my belt tension! I should probably order a spare belt too. My plan was also to just pro-actively change the belt whenever I change the tires.
@@NewZeroland do you think you might be able to test out the srf a bit back home in New Zeeland like you've done with the dsr? I'm curious to see if the bike might grow on you considering that you didn't seem that impressed in the beginning.
@@TAD-9 to be honest, I didn't like how it felt to ride (too heavy, awkward handle bar placement, footpegs in a weird spot).. and $4k extra for the ability to charge in 1hr. If someone imports one, I'd love to take it on a longer ride to do a proper comparison, but I really think the previous models are better bang for your buck.
Hells Bells! That happened to me a month or so ago. Luckily I was in San Francisco, so I got my cardio in and pushed the bike to the dealership. I guess it's just that time for parts on the 2015 models to start failing. Needless to say...I am definitely bookmarking this in case it happens again when I am riding out of town.
Cool method!!! But is it save to lift up the zero on this position with a scissor lift? I thought on this position is the onboard charger under the cover...
Being in Melbourne Australia, I made sure to get myself a replacement belt for just this reason so i know i had one. I know another guy here in Melbourne who had to wait almost 3 weeks to get a replacement sent out. Always have a spare at home I say.
So, I had my belt break today (2015 SR). Semi-hard accel while going over train tracks. I’m not very handy, so it went to the Zero dealer/shop. My question is, how long should it take to replace the belt (hours of labor)? They quoted me 3-4 hours, and I’ve had a few people scoff at that time frame. They had a belt on hand so I don’t have to wait for it, which is nice.
It's quite a bit of work, but it only took us about 30 minutes (on the side of the road with limited tools). Quoting 3-4 hours is absolutely insane haha, but I'm glad they were able to get you in and out the same day.
The belt was actually in great condition.. the bike only had 12k km's on it.. the belt was just really really loose, so when he hit grabbed the throttle all that torque snapped it.
Ai ai ai, nice group tho 👍 And what a beautiful scenery!! I travel now with a spare belt allready attached on the bike and put to the side of the swingarm. So no heavy tools needed when touring and .......snap.
That was easy! Thumbs up for the easy going self sufficient Kiwis! Of course things brake down on e-bikes too with such massive torque...but there are far less parts that can break down. So what are the real costs of maintenance of an E bike throughout their lifespan? Do you know of any statistics / findings? All the best from the Netherlands.
Thanks! That's a good question. So far it's just been brake pads and tire changes. Belts are about $100 if they snap, but they seem to last between 30-40k km's. If the onboard charger fails (which is common) it's $800 to replace, but there are better charging options out there now. Having ridden my Zero for 3 years, I would never go back to gas :D
@@dennisnl7125 Ya gotta give your bike a look over before doing a tour at least tyre pressure chain tension and lube or in this case check the belt 5:53 and wheel bolt ☺
I guess this is a good lesson for every motorcycle rider. Everybody who drives a car should know how to change a tire especially in emergency situations. Also, everyone who rides a motorcycle should know how and have on hand the tools to change a broken chain or belt. This would be just too frikin bad if this occurred in freezing weather.
Haha. HA! Yuk it up, funny man-at least you don’t have to worry about this happening with the hub motor. And since when is having reverse drive something to sniff about?
Haha, no-just never been a fan of belt drives. Question though: three belt driven bikes, not one spare belt between them? You guys were never scouts, were you? 😉
@@PtBm2975 haha, I gave my spare to Tim because he needed to swap his (a week before this video) and Jef's spare was still being shipped. I have another spare now though. A chain conversion is pretty appealing right now, but I really hate the maintenance and noise. If they made a hub motor with the same amount of power, that would be way cooler.
Agreed-chain maintenance is a grind, but reliable and easy to fix on the fly. Hub motors are more reliable still, but not great, torque-wise. (“Unsprung weight” is not the issue it’s made out to be unless you’re off-roading, so hubs are great city bikes.) Zero, Lightning, Harley and now Evoke have all decided belt drives are the future. The only solution is to wear several spares, bandoleer-style, and hope for the best. 😉
It would seem those bikes aren't that good, belts breaking, teeth chipping off the belts, charging problems, what next. They are not cheap bikes but they seem to be made really cheaply.
Can Zero Riders work on their own Bikes for high-level tech issues, unlike us gas guys? I mean can you theoretically not have to go to a mechanic with Basic knowledge of how the Bike works? If so then I'm definitely in.
It depends.. a lot of it is basic mechanical stuff, or just unplugging and replacing things. Stuff like the battery is high voltage and potentially dangerous so that should be done by a dealer.. but most other stuff is simple 😁
Zero riders are heroes. All of them. But Tim is a very special kind of hero. Long live Tim the Great!
Sooo well said! :D
Sucks to break down. But what a view! Incredibly gorgeous place to be stuck. I’m pleased to see that all three of you guys don’t just arbitrarily squish the little critters. Thanks for showing care for the environment in several different ways.
For sure! Not a bad place to break down, haha. And that spider was really chill. He just wanted to see what we were up to :D
Thanks for the reminder to check my belt tension!
I should probably order a spare belt too. My plan was also to just pro-actively change the belt whenever I change the tires.
That's a good idea.. maybe every second tire change. Having a spare is really a must, though. They take so long to get!
Take a spare belt, you never know when it's gonna snap
That's a lot of work just to replace a belt, I never knew what it really took to replace one before
Great video thanks for sharing
Yeah! Gotta drop the swingarm. It's pretty difficult out on the road.
@@NewZeroland is it any different on the srf?
@@TAD-9 not sure, but the belt looks a lot stronger.
@@NewZeroland do you think you might be able to test out the srf a bit back home in New Zeeland like you've done with the dsr? I'm curious to see if the bike might grow on you considering that you didn't seem that impressed in the beginning.
@@TAD-9 to be honest, I didn't like how it felt to ride (too heavy, awkward handle bar placement, footpegs in a weird spot).. and $4k extra for the ability to charge in 1hr. If someone imports one, I'd love to take it on a longer ride to do a proper comparison, but I really think the previous models are better bang for your buck.
Amazing. Keep up this content guys you’re changing the narrative slowly but surely.
Thanks for the support!
Hells Bells! That happened to me a month or so ago. Luckily I was in San Francisco, so I got my cardio in and pushed the bike to the dealership. I guess it's just that time for parts on the 2015 models to start failing. Needless to say...I am definitely bookmarking this in case it happens again when I am riding out of town.
I like the idea Dennis commented below.. when you change your belt, put a spare already inside the swingarm just in case you need it in the future.
Wonderful! Life is always fun and easy with friends!
😁 cheers!
I love this channel! Even when sh1t happens you guys still seem to have fun sorting it out.
Thanks for the support! I'm glad ya enjoyed it :D
Cool method!!! But is it save to lift up the zero on this position with a scissor lift? I thought on this position is the onboard charger under the cover...
Yep, for sure. The charger is really strong 😎👍
I love that technique for the belt change it’s so genius!
Right?? Tim is a pro now.
NewZeroland how many belts have Tim broke to get that good?
@@250MotoMark Haha he changed his own, then removed it and put it on Jef's bike. So technically 3 times, but his belt lasted 30,000km's.
I thought New Zealand didn't have spiders!! Dream country dreams shattered :(
Haha, that was out in the wild. I don't see anything bigger than daddy long legs around the house. At least there aren't any snakes here XD
Yeah we have spiders, nothing posioness
Being in Melbourne Australia, I made sure to get myself a replacement belt for just this reason so i know i had one. I know another guy here in Melbourne who had to wait almost 3 weeks to get a replacement sent out. Always have a spare at home I say.
Or with you, there will allways be some place nearby with tools, but not with your belt!
Absolutely!
So, I had my belt break today (2015 SR). Semi-hard accel while going over train tracks. I’m not very handy, so it went to the Zero dealer/shop. My question is, how long should it take to replace the belt (hours of labor)? They quoted me 3-4 hours, and I’ve had a few people scoff at that time frame. They had a belt on hand so I don’t have to wait for it, which is nice.
It's quite a bit of work, but it only took us about 30 minutes (on the side of the road with limited tools). Quoting 3-4 hours is absolutely insane haha, but I'm glad they were able to get you in and out the same day.
NewZeroland no, they didn’t. I go back on Saturday to pick it up. :-(
How much did u pay for this belt?
Any replacement belt aftermarket available?
Not sure how much they are now.. probably just over $100 USD. Unfortunately the only source is through Zero dealers.
@@NewZeroland well they are 250$ at this moment ;)
@@rolandMclovin 😱😲😵
I heard that there is a kit to change it to chain drive.
Yep, and depending on the gearing, you could end up with a bike that does wheelies super easy :D
How many miles on the belt before failure..?
The belt was actually in great condition.. the bike only had 12k km's on it.. the belt was just really really loose, so when he hit grabbed the throttle all that torque snapped it.
Ai ai ai, nice group tho 👍
And what a beautiful scenery!!
I travel now with a spare belt allready attached on the bike and put to the side of the swingarm.
So no heavy tools needed when touring and .......snap.
That's an amazing idea!
Oh that idea is SOOOOO stolen!
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That’s why I love my electric motorcycle, no chain or belt on mine. Very little moving parts mean barely any break downs.
Hub motors are awesome!
3:40 standard mate's response to a disaster!
That was easy! Thumbs up for the easy going self sufficient Kiwis! Of course things brake down on e-bikes too with such massive torque...but there are far less parts that can break down. So what are the real costs of maintenance of an E bike throughout their lifespan? Do you know of any statistics / findings? All the best from the Netherlands.
Thanks! That's a good question. So far it's just been brake pads and tire changes. Belts are about $100 if they snap, but they seem to last between 30-40k km's. If the onboard charger fails (which is common) it's $800 to replace, but there are better charging options out there now. Having ridden my Zero for 3 years, I would never go back to gas :D
Just had my first belt snap, can't for the life of me get those 10mm bolts off from the motor
The swingarm bolts? Man those are tricky without a big breaker bar. Good luck man!
Who sells zeros in New Zealand?
Nobody, unfortunately. We all imported them ourselves, but it wasn't that difficult. I made a video about the process a few weeks ago.
Ah, the joys of group riding.
Totally! I don't know what would have happened if Tim wasn't there, and wasn't such a hero!
so cool!
Omg this happened to me just two weeks ago. Such a pain.
Ohhhh man! It really makes me consider a chain conversion.. but I'd hate the maintenance.
'mini-copper tarantula'?? wth type of spiders you all got down there???
Haha, I think it's a tunnel web spider. The non-poisonous version of Australia's crazy funnel web. It was pretty friendly!
And there's a lesson in doing a little proactive maintenence
Especially before departing on a 10 day trip.
Yes and no, done now 45k km on my belt. It's not for free also!
But at least a spare belt on the bike is nice with a group.
😎
@@dennisnl7125 Ya gotta give your bike a look over before doing a tour at least tyre pressure chain tension and lube or in this case check the belt 5:53 and wheel bolt ☺
I guess this is a good lesson for every motorcycle rider.
Everybody who drives a car should know how to change a tire especially in emergency situations.
Also, everyone who rides a motorcycle should know how and have on hand the tools
to change a broken chain or belt.
This would be just too frikin bad if this occurred in freezing weather.
Well said. Doing some maintenance before a big trip to make sure this doesn't happen would have been better though haha.
I"ve snapped 2 belts on my buells over the years.....
Whoa! And those are way thicker than Zero belts.
Haha. HA! Yuk it up, funny man-at least you don’t have to worry about this happening with the hub motor. And since when is having reverse drive something to sniff about?
Haha did you buy an Evoke or something?
Haha, no-just never been a fan of belt drives. Question though: three belt driven bikes, not one spare belt between them? You guys were never scouts, were you? 😉
@@PtBm2975 haha, I gave my spare to Tim because he needed to swap his (a week before this video) and Jef's spare was still being shipped. I have another spare now though. A chain conversion is pretty appealing right now, but I really hate the maintenance and noise. If they made a hub motor with the same amount of power, that would be way cooler.
Agreed-chain maintenance is a grind, but reliable and easy to fix on the fly. Hub motors are more reliable still, but not great, torque-wise. (“Unsprung weight” is not the issue it’s made out to be unless you’re off-roading, so hubs are great city bikes.) Zero, Lightning, Harley and now Evoke have all decided belt drives are the future. The only solution is to wear several spares, bandoleer-style, and hope for the best. 😉
Zero maintenance..
Surely not
Haha, everything needs to be mantained, but electrics have way less things to service.
It would seem those bikes aren't that good, belts breaking, teeth chipping off the belts, charging problems, what next.
They are not cheap bikes but they seem to be made really cheaply.
Had a Zero for a short time then I went back to Yamaha... that's all folks.
Can Zero Riders work on their own Bikes for high-level tech issues, unlike us gas guys? I mean can you theoretically not have to go to a mechanic with Basic knowledge of how the Bike works? If so then I'm definitely in.
It depends.. a lot of it is basic mechanical stuff, or just unplugging and replacing things. Stuff like the battery is high voltage and potentially dangerous so that should be done by a dealer.. but most other stuff is simple 😁
Well, I am not first comment. I refuse to watch, now. I am downvoting this trash. (tee hee)
THUMBS DOWN FOR WHAT!
Sorry...... 😉😎
20 Grand for a bike with a very thin belt. I would have thought Zero would have a breakdown service at that price.
This bike was $15k and the owner didn't tighten his belt. The newer bikes have more power and wider belts.
So after 6 minutes of wasting my time, you finally show the belt replacement, with no description whatsoever. Thanks for wasting my time.
Oh, did I write that this was a how-to video? I must have made a mistake. This was not a how-to video.
@@NewZeroland Title: " Emergency Zero belt replacement" What else was I supposed to think it was?
@@glennarnold3667 an emergency Zero belt replacement hahaha