Crispin Glover: "Zemeckis Got Really Mad at Me" | Opie & Anthony
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- Actor Crispin Glover sits down with the "Opie & Anthony Show" and talks about issues he had with "Back To The Future".
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"If you question propaganda it has serious consequences." Wise words. Sad story to hear, but he still is such an iconic part of such an incredible film!! Love Crispin Glover!! Bravo!!
Best,
~Curtis & FiZzO~
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I always saw George McFly's success stemming from finding his confidence by standing up to Biff in the parking lot car scene. He faced his demons. As a result his confidence soared and he chased his dreams. The material success that folllowed was a simple by-product of finding his confidence.
Same here- and they aren't THAT much better off, they are living in the same house.
Yeah I actually think Glover is way off base suggesting that the film is “propaganda” and also probably off base in my personal opinion that the point of the film is actually polluted by the leads actually having a better life both spiritually and financially.
I will say I’m with him on them using his likeness without rehiring him. Glad he sued.
Exactly. But there's was definitely a commercial aspect to it. I don't necessarily have an issue with it if it served the screenplay. Glover was great, but should've kept his mouth shut and taken his own path afterward.
Money doesn't guarantee happiness, but it sure as hell solves a lot of problems, that poor people have. Teaching young people that becoming skillful at something, and working hard, will most likely give you a higher quality of live, than you would otherwise have, is a positive message.
George became more skillful and hard-working in the second timeline?
his laughing at the honeymooners was the BEST scene in the whole movie... sometimes i watch the movie just to see that... he should have been paid whatever he wanted in the second movie just to do that laugh!!!!
I've always found Crispin Glover to be a fascinating guy. He's a bit quirky, but he isn't stupid. Great interview!
He's totally a dumb ass... If you believe him he got fired for trying to rewrite Major Mothin picture as An nobody actor.
Not stupid, for sure. But, definitely an overthinker.
@C Mahoney you act like you his agent. You're so soft someone can't critique a third rate actor who's big mouth ruined his career? 😂😂
@C Mahoney if you're gonna be a grammar dick proofread your shit first 😂😂
These are some quality comments guys. Good job
Ironically, the weaker sequel Back to the Future II, and which foolishly cut Crispin Glover from the cast, contained the message that money does not always bring happiness. Biff obviously had plenty of money and power in the sequel, but he wasn't happy at all. In fact, he was a miserable person, knowing that nobody really loved him.
Also it led to his death and there was originally a deleted scene where old Biff fades from existence after having returned to 2015.
I agree. That’s what I thought too. Crispin could of gotten involved without feeling he compromised
The moral of the story. The only irony and Hypocrisy on his part is that it really was all about the money. He demanded equal pay with MJ Fox
It's a nice way to show that material possessions without love does not bring happiness.
They didn't cut him out. Crispin refused to act in it
its ironic since the reason he was cut was because of how much money he wanted for part 2
People always thing Crispin is weird, but in settings like this one he always seems so measured and knows what he's talking about. I think he's just a very deep and misunderstood man. I don't blame him at all for walking away with the reasons he's said here. He knows who he is and you have to respect that...
He didn't behave this calmly 30 years ago. He was constantly difficult because everything had to fit his viewpoint, or it was a "problem".
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Yeah, Crispin is entitled to his opinion regarding to the moral of the film he was in but he should have known that he is there to act in the film and that at the end of the day it is Bob Gale and Robert Zemeckis's vision. The studio using his image after kicking him out of the franchise now that was wrong. If Crisping didnt complain about them using his image, studios would be able to get away with it.
Gotta respect a person who holds true to their values despite financial consequences.
See Crispin at his neurotic best in "River's Edge" with Dennis Hopper and Keanu Reeves.
+Black Death 1347 I still have a hard time seeing Keanu as anything other than that metalhead.
Mike Carter Yes, Keanu is at his metal/meat-headiest in that one, which, given Parenthood, Dracula, and Point Break, is no small accomplishment.
Tom Miller I'm not sure if that movie would have worked at all if Crispin hadn't brought so much vitality to the "Layne" role. Someone had to carry that film, and Keanu wasn't exactly doing it.
Black Death 1347 Love the movie. Keanu "Made" that movie. Lol 😂
Yes!! I only ever watch that film for Crispin! Cracks me up when he’s ranting in the car.
“Damnnnnnnn iiiiiiiiyyeeeeuutttttttt!!!”
Crispin Glover is a great guy and actor. It's not surprising he's not reached the mainstream success he deserves given his very moral character and questioning mind. I still think his best is yet to come ;-)
I think you are right :^)
He’s very handsome too with the extra weight he’s put on
IDK, he is nutoriousl y hard to work with. Somehow he seems to think he knows how a character he is playing is supposed to act, more than the directors and writers..
@@sdHansy I suspect Crispin is often the smartest man in the room and it's difficult for others to accept that, which I'd imagine causes a clash of egos on set. Just me guessing though tbh.
You can never be sure about these things.
Actually to me Crispin Glover shows signs of narcissistic personality disorder. I'm not saying he has it. Just that he shows some signs and that I see similarities. The way he blames people, the way he paints Bob Gale as the worst he can think of (a thief), the way he accuses him of deliberately lying to hide some illegal activities (which could just have been a honest mistake, and probably was), and the way he cannot let go of this until Bob Gale apologizes. All red flags. He also made 750.000$ through the lawsuit, yet he cannot let go of this, and it's said he demanded 8x as much pay as the studio and his own manager thought was reasonable, despite it being quite early in his career. I've seen these things all before, some in my personal life.
People with NPD are exceptionally good liars, and can have good acting skills, too, although usually these are a bit eccentric (which they were in back to the future). So, guys, be careful which side you're fooled by. It's easy for him to pull entire audiences onto his side, with him being an actor and handsome and all. Even professional psychologists sometimes cannot diagnose NPD in patients due to how brilliantly they lie.
Again, I'm not saying, that he has NPD.
The sequels (especially II) did suffer from Crispin's absence. I was a 13 year old kid, and I could tell the difference, and I missed him. Crispin Glover is pure magic!
No you couldn’t lol especially at 13
@@StuffedBearSus honestly
Okay 👌🤪
It didn’t hurt the films at all as his role in part two was small and no one could even tell. Part 3 was the one where you could see the difference as Fox had to play the ancestor role (although Fox was great in that role too). But missing Crispín didn’t hurt the sequels.
Glover's take on how "Back to the Future" ended and how it promotes the idea of wealth and fortune as being most important and the key to happiness is a bit skewed. To me, the happiness didn't come from George's wealth. It came from him being confident and driven to pursue his dreams. That's what Marty taught him to do. Marty taught George to be more assertive and to not be afraid to follow his dreams, and likewise Marty learned that himself. From George becoming more self-confident came his writing career and then subsequent wealth. I think it's particularly skewed considering the themes in "Part II" with Biff accruing tremendous amounts of wealth from the sports almanac his future self gave to him. Wealthy Biff in the alternate 1985 was a tyrant. All his money and power had gone to his head to the point that he was even more ruthless and had more freedom to expand upon his negative qualities. Ultimately in that time line, off screen, Lorraine shoots and kills Biff somewhere in the 1990s, I believe, and that's why we see old Biff after returning from his trip to the past staggering out of the DeLorian and (in deleted footage) disappearing like Marty was doing so on stage at the dance in the first film.
Like confidence lead to wealth? Like wealth means happiness? I agree with Crispin. You're a brainwashed sheep.
thomascampr Let's face it, wealth isn't necessarily happiness, but financial security sure takes the edge off of life. I'm not a brainwashed sheep, either. Don't act like you know me.
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Problem is your conclusion has to come from an assertion. Anyone's conclusion does since it's directly related to whatever happens throughout George's life after the past has been changed. But, no matter what you believe the movie still makes a connection between wealth and happiness in the end.
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Wealth or financial security? There's a difference.
jw870206 By going back to 1955 and giving himself the almanac he created an alternate timeline where old 2015 Biff is now a mega rich tyrant. That's why he is dying when he gets out of the Delorean he erased himself from the normal 2015 but existed long enough to return the Delorean to normal 2015.
STAND TALL, CRISPIN! HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR YOURSELF! YOU LET PEOPLE WALK OVER YOU NOW, THEY'LL BE WALKIN' OVER YOU FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE!
Mayor........... he could be mayor!
That'll be the day! When we have a narsassitic mayor!
You watch people someday I'm going to be mayor! Abd immm gonna clean up this town.
Good Crispen.......... you can start by sweeping the floor.
@@davidward9487 Mayor Crispin Glover. I like the sound of that.
Crispin acatlly misses the real point of what happens in the movie. George McFly was scared of others opinion of him and when Marty comes back home from the 50's George did not have that fear in him anymore, of others peoples opinion of him so he had self confidence in himself.
joseph frank Yes, that is true but him being confident in himself didn't have to do with wealth.
joseph frank Exactly, and that confidence is what allowed him to become wealthy.
Thingsandstuff Yes and also in the ending that even though they were wealthy they stayed living in the same house and not showing them in a big mansion is a a great message too.
The Presidential Perkolator Go away.
joseph frank he said there was a different ending tho
To the people saying Glover was wrong about the ending and that it was Zemekis' movie not his... well Zemekis now agrees with him that the ending with Marty getting the car of his dreams etc. is dated and shallow. He has said as much in interview. And if Glover is telling the truth that the ending was originally even worse - he hints at them having a servant that wasn't Biff - it's not hard to understand his concerns. Sure, maybe it wasn't his place to voice them, but he wasn't wrong. Just a smartass.
2003 essay on Stephen Spielberg written by Crispin Glover
I love Crispin Glover! Such a great actor. True to his philosophy in life. Big Respect.
He may be extremely weird, but I can't imagine anybody else playing George McFly. That laugh gets me every time.
Miles Finnch haha, me too! Even when I was 10 and saw it when it came out in the theater, that laugh was and still is one of my favorite things in the movie. :)
What is extremely weird about Crispen?
Crispin Glover is so talented and the other 2 films were not nearly as good as they could have been if he was in them
I haven't seen a lot of interviews of Crispin Glover, but the few I have seen were quite strange in terms of the way he would act and the things he would say & do, but this is the first interview I've seen where he's been an intelligent, articulate individual and it's good to see him being his true self. That said, it's very sad how the studio apparently short-changed him by offering so little money for his part in the second movie. I also did not know that wasn't him in part 2. I have a new respect for Crispin now.
Faye Dunaway- "Whats my motivation?" Roman Polanski- "Just say the fucking words, your paycheck is your motivation."....
+jobless205 And then Roman left the set, got a 14-year-old drunk, had his way with her, and ran off to avoid charges.
Yes, I jumped on it quicker than Roman did a defenseless child.
magazinekitchen Bully for you.
+jobless205 Wow... swearing that the view of a greedy, self centered, sociopathic child molesting criminal is gospel, while attacking the view of a victim of crime. A crime which Glover held the perpetrator Bob Gale, whom continues to slander his victim to this very day, civilly responsible for. You're sick...
Brent Clouda Zemeckis and Gale did the franchise a huge service getting rid of this fucking tool. Good day sir.
It's a damn shame that Crispin Glover is absent from the Back to the Future sequels (I wonder, did they have a part for him in BTTF III as well?) What many people do not remember about BTTF II is that despite its financial success, at the time, the movie was poorly received by both audiences and critics. George McFly's absence demanded a major rewrite of a sequel originally scripted so that, like final final film, it begins in 2015 (this year!) but with the remainder of the film taking place in the 1960s. Having read one draft the earlier BTTF II script online, my impression is that it *_could_* have been a movie with a little more of the flavor we loved from the original (it also had a much cooler ending with Marty and Doc flying the Delorean through some sort of electrical tower power grid in order to generate the 1.21 Gigawatts for time travel!)...sadly, the rewrite ensured that like Biff's Mega Million Dollar Casino, this incarnation of BTTF II quickly faded from existence.
Great filmmakers make something good out of a bad situation. Jaws became a much scarier movie b/c the animatronic shark did not work, forcing Spielberg to only hint at the shark's presence for most of the film. Crispin's absence gave birth to the idea of an alternate 1985 in which George is dead. Leading to the characters basically jumping back into the first film at a different angle. This idea is much more unique than just another time period movie like BTTF3 became. Especially since they've already done the "how do we generate 1.21 gigawatts" problem in the original. Without the uniqueness of part 2, the series would've become overly repetitive by the time BTTF3 came along, possibly resulting in a much more negative reception. Zemeckis himself named BTTF2 as one of his favorites out of his own filmography b/c it put him in a very inventive position of creating events around established ones.
+jp3813 As I see it (and since 1989, I've seen it too many times) BTTF II commits the #1 cardinal sin of all bad sequels; that being it is *literally* a twice fried, 1/3 rehash boring the audience to tears by forcing us to watch BTTF 1 (from different angles....but who cares) for the film's final act. Excellent sequels place the characters the audience knows and loves into previously uncharted territory. To avoid writing a long winded BTTF II review I'll just say that the movie earns a C+ in my book because: it spends barely 10 minutes in 2015 (about right now I think); Biff's character is over saturated in regards to a plot with 🕳Gaping 🕳Holes🕳; Marty's once pragmatic resolve is replaced with a ridiculous and annoying Hot Headed frailty; the scene at George McFly's grave represents horrible acting and an all time, cringeworthy low for the entire film series; etc., etc., ad infinitum, 3 ⚡️Sonic Booms⚡️, 💥Reverse Explosion💥, 🌫Temporal Displacement🌫...I'm just happy it's 2015.
ROTO SCOPIC For most people, you're actually describing BTTF3. In which the characters are just in the same situation as the original: stuck in a time period b/c the DeLorean isn't working right. Only this time, it's actually boring b/c there's no sense of urgency. No schemes that they have to pull off before the train's arrival, the lamest McFly vs Tannen finale, barely any surprises, etc... It's a waiting movie with a random romance thrown in. Waiting for the train, waiting for Doc to wake up, waiting for Marty to come out of the saloon, etc... Your so-called "cardinal sin of all bad sequels" doesn't even apply to BTTF2 given that its 1955 sequence can be considered as a sidequel. The film may be far from being as revered as The Godfather part 2 (which is both a sequel and a prequel), but it does the same thing in that it doesn't just settle for being a rehash of its predecessor's plot like part 3 did. BTW, for a guy who clearly realized the dangers of time travel, Doc sure has no problem screwing with the futures of every passenger on that train. Ah well, what do you expect from a guy who doesn't even remember finding his own grave in 1955?
+ROTO SCOPIC I have to disagree with you. Although the second film was somewhat disliked at the time, it has grown in stature. Even during the period of time IMDB has been around, the appraisal of it has improved. It used to be rated significantly behind part 3, now it's almost a half a point higher than part 3. The script is nearly as good as the first, and it has a lot of iconic elements to it that people still remember. I go back and watch it somewhat regularly and I find it to be immensely entertaining. Part 3 has almost no interest if you're turned off by the 'western' vibe. I do agree that seeing the same scenes from different angles is a bit gimmicky but if those scenes are going to be in a film, one about time travel and trying to save yourself and others from things happening is as good a setup to do so as any.
+jp3813 I just stated this in a reply to OP but BTTF 2's stature has definitely grown over time. The script in particular has been singled out for praise now that the dust of the initial disappointment and the lawsuit etc has settled far in the past.
Glad that I heard this. I'd only ever heard the Gale version before. Many many times.
It was the eighties, Crispin. "Money equals happiness" was a very popular concept back then.
It’s been a popular idea since the beginning of humankind, but Crispin is correct. The moral message at the end is pretty bad. Even if you try to make wealth a byproduct of love, you are sending the message that the acquisition of wealth is a reason to love your family. But BTTF is just one of many 80s films that had moral issues. Revenge of the Nerds and Sixteen Candles promoted rape, for example.
I always thought that was kind of strange, so I kind of see his point. "Oh, my parents are nearly entirely different people than they were before I meddled with time... but now they're rich, so who cares?"
They lived in the same house. They weren't exactly rich. Probably just well off or comfortable.
@@gregr3720 The original draft of that scene featured the McFlys having a servant in their home serving them breakfast and talking about the mansion they were about to buy - Crispin pushed for them to change it. You can read the entire draft online. It's in the 4th version of the screenplay.
Everyone is remembering Back to the Future, but a little known fact was how the producers screwed over Crispin Glover. They stole his likeness for the sequels, Crispin was only in the first movie. He also had a lot of trouble with the capitalist message of the film.
+Tracy Vanity Plus high intelligence, mental illness, and drugs.......
+Tracy Vanity Depends on who you believe. If he made the ridiculous demands that many claim he did (including asking that his salary match Michael J Fox's and that he get script approval for his character), he got what he deserved. And that was nothing. As far as the capitalistic message of the film, if that's what anyone gets out of it, they completely miss the point. The point was that he stopped being a victim and took control of his life. Money was one of the results of his change but was not the reason for his happiness.
He took control of his life, and he took some acid.
I didn't know that and I understand why he would be pissed.
What a shame. Who knows, the sequels could have been better than mediocre if Crispin was involved. He was essential to the first one's success.
The sequels were not mediocre, and your not a true BTTF fan for saying that. They were blessed by God and God used Zemeckis’s right hand to direct his will. God is good and so is BTTF trilogy. That is all for now..
3:00 right on the nail. They were living better lives and the money was one result of that. Barrow money? No, they were more productive with better jobs and that was because they were spiritually better.
It's been a long time since I saw the film, but wasn't the money a result of him placing bets when he knew which teams were going to win?
Where is this wheel barrow of money you mentioned?
@@fyootb9482 deleted scene, maybe? Lol
He crushed that movie. It had an amazing ensemble cast. The script was pretty much perfect.
The point the film was trying to make with the money was that George McFly always had intelligence and talent but never capitalised on it due to low self esteem. By punching out Biff and winning the love of his wife through his assertive action rather than the Florence Nightingale effect of being hit by the car he found his self confidence and learned to take affirmative action to get the success he wanted from life. Because of that confidence he capitalised on his talent and made lots of money. How can Crispin Glover not even understand the progression of his own character?!
The issue is how that success is portrayed, not that he made lots of money. The visual clues made the confidence and intellectual accomplishments pale in comparison to the house being in better condition, different clothes, playing tennis, and expensive high ticket items. It was an overload FOCUSING on the spoils of success over the satisfaction of the work itself and love. A lot of rich people don't change many things about their life materially if they came from poverty.
@@razorbeard6970 Russians excluded. ;-)
no disrespect to Crispin, but i think he missed the message. as his character said "if you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything" was the message.
+Jose Rodriguez I think he got the message, He just didnt like the outcome
+Jose Rodriguez "If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything" was indeed the movie's theme/message. That said, what the McFlys (& the Tannens) wanted to accomplish with their minds was "monetary gain". So, Crispin's take still stands (despite you mentioning the movie's theme).
+Jose Rodriguez Weeelllll that wasn't his character that said that it was Doc.
+FLYING DREAM PRODUCTIONS The McFlys weren't seeking monetary gain. George McFly became more confident in himself and set his mind to becoming a sci-fi writer and ended up being a successful one. That in turn led to having enough disposable income for them to afford a better lifestyle and a new car. Their wealth was a side effect of the characters doing what they wanted to do for a career and succeeding at it. Seeking out wealth was never a focus of the movie.
As for Biff becoming basically a servant at the end, he was dominant over George in the beginning of the movie and the movie had to show that George became the dominant man in that character relationship at the end. It wasn't enough for him to deck Biff back in 1955 because that would have only shown George's side of character development. We needed to see Biff's resolution and the pacing of the movie between when George punches Biff and when Marty makes it back to 1985 didn't allow for that to happen until the end of the movie.
I really don't see how anyone could see the ending of that movie as corporate propaganda for becoming rich.
+FLYING DREAM PRODUCTIONS Not really though because we see in the 50s that George's stories are his life and writing Science Fiction is what he loved to do. So yeah he had new found confidence at the end of the prom that led him to believe that his science fiction writing were good and he could let people 'read his stories' and it ended up becoming a big hit. As for Marty being excited for that new truck, guess what he was a teenager who grew up poor and this was his first taste of anything nice so yeah he would be excited to get something he really desired just days earlier that he never thought would happen. It's also not like he started jerking off and was like OMG WE HAVE MONEY NOW!!!!
I thought the McFly's were rich at the end of BTTF because self-confidence helps build skills (i.e. writing) which if done well enough ad often enough creates money. Without self confidence, achievements are hardly ever accomplished.
Absolutely which is why one can argue that the wealth came from the happiness but I agree with Crispin's interpretation that boiled down it really did flaunt the wealth, the new truck, and whatnot was the measure of happiness.
I totally agree.
Money doesn't lead to happiness. Poverty doesn't do this even more.
I heard if crispin was actually on board for part 2 it had a different screenplay like marty & doc go to 1967 the year b4 Marty is born. I wish I had a link for that.
It's true. When crispin turned down the offer for part 2, the directors changed the whole script for part 2 to be set in the future.
He is ultra talented.
I was 38 years old before I realized Crispin Glover wasn't in the sequels.
Love this guy. Courage and talent.
He was just 20 to22 years old when he was already standing up for what he believes in. So much strength of character!
Crispin in River's Edge FTW!
Crispin Glover the great brother of Danny...
Crispin is such a profound and great human being
The McFlys had a black maid and owned multiple houses in the original ending. This ending was shot with Eric Stoltz so there is footage of it. It's also in one of the draft screenplays. I don't know why he keeps being coy about it saying, "I don't want to talk about it."
He is definitely one of my favorite actors and he is right I'm glad he told us this I would have never known about this situation and I'm a big back to the future fan of all 3 movies and also a big Michael J Fox fan❤
Idk why it’s so hard to understand how George punching out his bully, combined with Marty’s influence gave him newfound confidence that would alter his life. A fellow student asked him to run for class president, and he wrote a novel based on his encounter with Marty. I’m curious if he pitched a realistic alternative, bc that’s a major theme in these time travel movies - the butterfly effect. Just kind of a dumb hill to die on. It’s why Edward Norton is viewed as difficult to work with - it’s like “don’t tell me how to do my job.”
I disagree about the ending. The real message was “if you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything”. The family’s new lifestyle came out of George breaking free of his insecurities, actively pursuing his career as a writer and making a lucrative living off of it. I don’t think that’s a bad message at all.
I agree. If we think about it………….. The obvious clues that self confidence could change the McFly family’s future were there………….And I believe them to be very relevant
Firstly at the end of the movie, Lorraine is with George out of love and not pity because her dad hits George with a car. They weren’t in love in the first part of the film. Lorraine was not an alcoholic when Marty returns, George was visibly looking after himself and they had hobbies in common. That’s gotta do wonders for a person’s self confidence in itself.
The older siblings’ more successful professional lives can easily be explained by the encouragement they would have received by loving parents who were in love with each other.
Then there’s the bit when George explains he never let’s people see his science fiction stories for fear of rejection and being told they were no good. His newfound self-confidence took away that fear. He followed his dreams and those dreams were more lucrative when he had some success.
Before Marty goes back to 1955, Biff was actively still bullying George and was his supervisor at work. Having discovered in the 50s that his life didn’t have to be that way, there was no way that situation was going to be same when Marty returned to 1985. George had stood up to Biff and wasn’t going to be a doormat. Which meant Biff couldn’t use George anymore for his own gain. Therefore, it is likely that George would be doing better professionally. That does usually mean options to have nicer things.
Then the last clue before Marty returns, when Doc hears that George had never stood up to Biff in his life. Doc’s response there and then suggests that he’s expecting obvious differences to be there when Marty returns.
I don’t take the message from the movie that having love and self-confidence guarantees financial gain. But having self-confidence to follow your dreams could lead to those rewards.
In my younger days I had serious self-doubt, which prevented me from ever asking the ladies I fancied, to have a date etc. Then years later I found out that some of those ladies wanted me to ask them. But I always assumed they’d say no. To find that out when it was too late was crushing at the time lol. To find out what I could have achieved if I had had that little bit of self-belief has pushed me to come out of my shell and go for what I previously considered unobtainable. This I believe is what George did.
The message I take is “If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything” In other words don’t let yourself be defeated by yourself. Put yourself out there and there can be rewards.
Growing up I loved BttF and watched the movies on and off. Today as a 35 year old grown man I'm sick of all the 80's nostalgia throwbacks filled with BttF references, I like the movies as they are, I don't need tie-ins. Yesterday I started watching the first movie again and I understand a lot more today as I did as a kid. And I see many flaws that I don't like today. But I'm still gitty at the sight of the DeLorean and key moments in the film. It's fascinating to hear Crispin talking about the controversies around the second movie casting and ending of the first movie. I'm happy I stumbled uppon this video! I think the tennis racket and stuff is not problematic, he got over his awkwardness and became a successful writer, there's nothing wrong with the message. I get that Marty had this dream about the Toyota pickup too, now that's the part that was a little problematic in this sense. George achieved his goal, Marty just go the truck but did not earn it (yeah, he saved his own existence but, you got it I think...) But on the other hand, Marty had his own nemesis and the truck accident was a good lead up to his character development of coming over his attitude when he was called chicken and stop being stubborn about it.
I’m sickened... I didn’t know that Glover didn’t play George mcfly in bttf2...
In the future, they had somebody else playing him. His role wasn't really anything. He came in hanging upside down.
Honestly absolutely right it’s like the whole message of back to the future is that look how poor this family is they are not happy and they’re all a bunch of jerks and then when they’re rich they’re all nice people that’s a little strange, but I also think it was a little bit more nuanced than that like when Kristen’s character finally lived out his dreams he was a much for your happier person that part rings true
As for the Toyota truck...product placement people...product placement. The whole movie was full of them. Besides Marty had to get some sort of reward for his hard work in 55.
As for Glover..his story arch was done. He had beaten the bully, become famous and can now spend his days playing tennis, screwing his wife and bossing Biff around. He was no longer needed.
+shortbuspileup That is exactly what the truck was just product placement. There was the guys Mountain dew hat twice. Burgerking. California raisins. Pepsi multiple times The Toyota truck and more if I think hard enough.
Guess somebody had to pay Fox the big dollars. One of the all time classic movies that is for certain.
+shortbuspileup That makes sense with somebody hanging onto the bumper at least the guy who is supposed to keep things safe is right there.
The movies rely heavily on popular culture to make tie-ins with "now" and "then" references throughout the film. E.g. Studebaker dealer now a Toyota dealer. Pepsi vs Pepsi-Free. The shark still looking fake in Jaws. Sure, in BTTF it's blatantly obvious product placement yes, but having a movie without any kind of then-popular products or product placement would have lessened the overall feel and impact of traveling back to a different time period, when all those things were different.
And what's wrong with the guy getting the girl and a cool truck at the end - a guy's happy ending, like the stereotypical princess finding a prince and getting married. Who wants an ultra politically-correct, lectured, responsibly reserved ending to a fun romp through time.
+TheSubatomicCheese Exactly. Glover could have been used more but chose not to. Marty got his reward...Elizabeth Shue and the pic of them by the clock. They needed the placements to pay for production costs. Nothing new. Hope the Cubs win to make it even better.
+strontiumXnitrate You are welcome
Loved you in Back to the Future part 3 man
I agree with Glover. I will say that one can argue the increased money comes from the characters being more confident and greater success and money comes from the confidence.
When you’re trying to leave the staff meeting and that “one guy” keeps asking questions
Most people would recognize him only for Back to the Future. But he so much more than that... Alot of great movies/music under this guy's belt.
Worked background in the movie Freaky Deaky. It was interesting seeing Crispin on set. During filming, in scenes that he wasn't in but was on set, he would stare intently at us and the scenes being filmed, like he was really studying what was going on.
He was great in BTTF. He stood out over the other characters IMO.
HE WENT FULL DIVA, thats why he got fired from back to the future. I've seen people go full DIVA when helping an in-law for one days work, thought he was my new God and over-lord, almost hit him but i barely hung on, i did leave before work was done, cuz i was done with the dork
Cite your source, please?
Cody R actually after watching this I honestly believe Crispin is telling the truth. he seems over it and that he doesn't care but if you want the truth this is it. I believe him. studios and people with money are fucked up
He has a STRONG point. The political view of the future movie with money is very controversial. But I can see it by both sides, the moral versus earning. It’s only differentiated by each owns personal perspective. I personally agree with crispin about sending out the wrong message about money meaning happiness. As opposed with someone else viewing it perhaps as like working hard to earning what you want for happiness and maybe accomplishment.
Very confident and strong man crispin is. It’s sexy.
Yup and his point even becomes stronger after reading the ending from the 4th draft of the film. The McFlys having a maid named Bertha and a new home with a swimming pool and tennis court, comes across as very pompous. Zemeckis and Gale were out of touch when they wrote those in.
He's pathetic. You have Taste calcification
@@DCol and here he goes again. I start to think you're Crispin yourself 😂 you're the most bad actor Hollywood has ever seen
did everyone else pull this up from searching for it from TH-cam's algorithm suggesting collider and crispin glover's anger clip?
OMG he looks like the old guy with a shovel from home alone
Old ? Crispin does not age !
big pun true but just seemed a lil too similar
I always crack up when I think of his David Letterman appearance when he claims he was on acid and almost kicked Letterman in the chin
His interviews prior to this seemed psychotic. I've worked as a psych rn
He needed help. Good for Johnny Carson for being kind at least
Was Goldie Wilson originally the McFly's servant in the end? Is that the original ending Glover is referencing? If that is true, people would not look back on this movie as fondly.
What’s crazy is that even when I watch BTTF2 today I STILL think it’s Crispin Glover playing George McFly.
hes right though...i loved these movies since i was a kid. i was born in 85 and watched it for the first time i dunno maybe at like 7 or 8 and many more times since. but ill be 30 this year and i just watched them again and for the first time just now actually noticed what hes talking about. it totally sticks out at that scene where marty comes home and his family is rich and happy. and his brother has an office job and wears a suit lol...subconsciously i picked up something funny about it but didnt really give it any thought. just now that i saw this i realized that the thing that felt kinda wrong was exactly this what hes talking about. loved him in the movie. and biff i think is just fantastic too. love them all! :) and the director and producers for making it happen. nobodys perfect!! :) but good on him for taking responsibility for himself and what he helps bring into the world! its these small things that nobody thinks much of that eventually sum up.
I get what Crispin Glover is saying about the money thing, but the thing is, his character, the father, had no confidence at all, which was a brought down on his family, it wasn’t that they didn’t have money, it just shows that low self esteem not only brings you down, but the people around you, including your family, before Marty leaves, you see the house isn’t so bad, but George is still being bullied by Biff, like Biff driving their car and telling him he’s going to pay for it after Biff crashes it and his dry cleaning bill for spilling his drink on it during the crash, wonder how many things Biff had George pay for, which is probably reasons why Marty never got his truck in that timeline because George was always paying for Biffs mistakes, who knows what Biff did to George before Marty leaving to the past, maybe he always hit him up for money,when Marty comes back, they are still at the same house, just different, you see a more confident George Mcfly, he was able to publish his book, and because of that, his kids gained that same energy, you see that with his sister of getting calls from boys, his brother is wearing a suit instead of fast food outfit, and he and his wife are doing more stuff together, I don’t think Zemeckis was sending the message of money makes things better, but having more confidence in yourself will lead you to great things, and lead you to your dreams, because what do they say in the movie, “you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything.”
to call it propaganda is ridiculous, nothing wrong with having nice things, wealth to a reasonable level does make hapiness, we are material beings.
They should make another back to the future movie with him going in the time machine to fix the past and make the movie end right.
he looks nice with a beard
So Crispin got tossed from the sequels because he dared to question their storytelling and messaging. Typical. The entertainment industry is filled with petty tyrants.
He is completely right.
this is the very first time i have ever seen glover act like a normal rational human being.
Underrated actor this guy. He was awesome in At Close Range & What’s Eating Gilbert Grape.
Glover's story doesnt match up with the story of other individuals who were present on the Back to the Future sets/negotiations. The real reason Glover wasnt in Back to the Future II is simple: greed. Glover demanded exuberant salary increases as well as specific script changes. ie: he felt his character should become "cool" in part II. Obviously, Glover overplayed his hand in life, and was simply cut out of the sequels. His career has been lackluster ever since. Let's be realistic. nobody said Back to the Future was a great movie because of Crispin Glover. If you want to hear more about how his greed led to his own demise, check out the Back to the Future trilogy special feature disks with interviews/commentary by Spielberg and Zemeckis.
Gordon Camel I appreciate your interest. I'm happy to see another fan of the B2TF series.
I just have one question for you: did you watch this clip in its entirety? Because if you did, it should seem pretty obvious that Crispin is mitigating his own role in his absence from the sequals by spinning the story. First he says he was chastised because he was asking questions - seems questionable. Second, he says he didnt take the part because he didnt agree with the greed-is-good message of the movie. He even goes on to claim that the reason the B2TF films were successful was because of a corporate conspiracy. He believes big corporations agreed with the films underlying capitalistic theme, and that's why the film was successful - because big corporations supported it (seems crazy to me... i think the films were successful because they were masterpieces of fine cinema, but i digress.) Finally, around the 6 minute mark of the video, Crispin's tale of events changes from basically saying "they didnt hire me because i asked questions" and "i didnt like the greedy tone of the script" to "i didnt like the salary." Specifically he said "the offer was less than half of what Leah Thompson and Tom Wilson's... It wasn't fair" Okay, so Crispin literally contradicted his own story from just 2 minutes prior. His desire to change aspects of the script, and his dissatisfaction with the salary offered both perfectly corroborate with Gale & Zemeckis whom claimed he had issues with the salary and had a desire for creative control.
I've heard about a dozen first hand accounts of what happened exactly, and my basic summation is as follows: Rob and Bob sat down to get to work on B2TF2. They were under a very strict timeline and didnt have the leeway to play around with actor negotiations. Crispin felt he was an integral part of the trilogy and (likely due to receiving bad advice from his agent) decided to play hardball. He wanted some degree of creative control, and a larger salary. Rob and Bob, whom were under tremendous pressure from the studio to crank out parts 2 and 3 felt insulted by Crispin's behavior and basically told him "take it or leave it." Crispin overplayed his hand and stuck with his hardball strategy. Not having time to play games, production on B2Tf2 began without Crispin. Several first-hand retellings of events including form Rob, Bob, MJ Fox, Leah, and Thomas all describe Crispin as trying to negotiate his way into the film after production had already begun. Yeah, he came crawling back, but it was too late. However, Crispin vehemently denies that.
Up to this point, Crispin basically dug his own grave. He viewed himself as an integral part of the project, but turned out to be disposable/replacable along with Claudia Wells (whom left the project due to her mother developing cancer.) The show must go on! Simply put, it was Crispin's own fault that he wasn't in the movie.
However, the things that happened after the negotiations failed were no fault of Crispin's. The production crew combined a look-alike actor, old footage, and prosthetics to give the appearance that the original "George McFly" was in the sequels. That's sketchy!
captainthrall I planned to read your reply until I saw that sloppy sea of words. Edit that silliness into paragraphs, & I'll happily read it. The Q I did see is 'did I watch'...uh yeah it's a short montage of a larger interview. Not only did I watch it all, I went & listened to the entire 55min interview afterwards. Then forced myself through Sam's podcast, & listened to his two interviews there too.
My comments are not fleeting or uneducated. I'm not a newbie to this situation, propaganda, or what I said to you. I don't talk out of my ass.
my mistake, i thought i was dealing with an adult not an angry troll.
I think a lot of people would like to have significant roles in compelling masterpieces like Beowulf, Back to the Future,Willard,Alice in Wonderland and get to pull out some beauties hair in Charlies Angel's movies not to mention many interesting movies like Gilbert Grape.
Lol, I think Handmaid's Tale raided Crispin's closet to dress Gilead Commanders
He looks a bit like a young bearded Robin Williams here.
I went to verify to the later show with Bob Gale, Gale said that Crispin asked for Michael J Fox money, which really doesn't make sense if everyone knew Fox was the main man of the movie.
He doesn't spell it out right here, but after doing some research...one reason Crispin Glover objected was because an early draft of the "Back To The Future" script showed the McFlys at the ending as super-rich, with an in-house staff comprised exclusively of minorities. He didn't like the statement being made there and said so. Director Robert Zemeckis and Screenwriter Bob Gale didn't appreciate his candor, and the three men were never really on the same page after that (figuratively and literally).
Loved him in hot tub time machine 😂 💪🏽
I think Crispin was over thinking the ending of the film.
It wasn't saying money is the answer to everything.
It was just showing how better life is when your more confident and pursue your dreams.
At the start of the movie the family was miserable and everyone had a low self esteem.
At the end of the movie due to the interference of the past, and George's new found confidence, the family is now better well off. Everyone was pursuing their dreams since George did.
George even says "If you put your mind to it you can accomplish anything". That was the moral not money.
The car Marty gets at the end though was a little too much. I'll agree on that part of it.
On my multiple viewings of Back to the Future I never made the connection that the family was richer at the end. They lived in the same house. I just thought they were more organized and less messy. George Mcfly had confidence in himself and he was taking better care of his family was the message I got.
He's talking about the ending from the 4th draft of the screenplay. It's almost exactly the same ending in the film: the family has a BMW, Marty's new Toyota truck, the better furniture, the better clothes, but there's an extra character named Bertha the Maid who hands Marty a piece of french toast. George then tells her she will soon be working in a much larger kitchen as soon as the new McFly house is finished with the swimming pool and tennis court. I agree with Crispin Glover: the maid & the new house was overkill. The audience already understands the McFly's are doing financially better and are happy. Crispin probably would've preferred the family to still be more similar as the beginning with less superficial things to define their happiness.
Crispin's criticisms are valid and it was wrong for the studio to use his likeness without his permission - however, he is an actor that agreed to play a part in a film and was paid. He is not the writer, director or producer. The monatary wealth earned by Mr. McFly at the end of the film is a correct outlook. Assertiveness and conscientiousness predict success in the workplace. Standing up to Biff in the past changed his character and gave him confidence that paid off in his future career choices.
I can see Crispin Glover’s point about that message, but I also think he’s off the mark. The point being made is that after confronting Biff and defending Lorraine’s honor, it gives George confidence and self respect, which is what George lacked. Instead of pitying George, Lorraine sees him as a smart, confident, capable man whom she feels safe with. And Biff learns not to screw with George. And all of that led to George’s success.
now i really wanna know who the family slave was originally going to be...
Goldie Wilson and his kids.
@@66ott7 No it wasnt Goldie Wilson. That's too offensive for the 80s and even today. It was a hispanic maid named Bertha. That is more relatable for today's audiences. I know plenty of yuppie families that have their own maids and they're all hispanic.
I respect this man a lot. A lot.
I understand his argument but success doesn’t pollute love. The moral of the story is follow your dreams! Hello! This is why Crispin Glover is an actor and not a producer. The reason why George McFly became successful is because he found the courage to become an author. Ultimately, he put himself first over the movie and the sequel suffered a bit because I think Weissman wasn’t as good in the role. No wonder Zemeckis was irritated with him!
I have heard him speak on limited basis, and how he was cast in the first place for the role? He got some accountability in Hollywood, which is rare.
Peripheral effect, oh my!
Since he's so upset about wealth, I'll take his money. Oh, he was upset about not getting paid as much as some of his costars. So, which way does he really go? Money is bad? Or is money good? Look, most people understand that wealth does not guarantee happiness, gossip magazine covers at the grocery store shouts that message loud and clear. On the other hand, all of us have issues that more money would solve. The question is whether more money solves more problems than it brings, and how much "more" does it take to go either way.
I have to disagree with Crispin Glover. It was not about the monetization of money and getting happiness from it, it was that George McFly now had the confidence to do what he wanted to do. He was afraid of rejection and didn't know how to deal with it where now he built up the confidence to do so which gave him the ability to now show his book and be proud of what he was creating in his mind. He wasn't afraid of rejection anymore, because he now stuck up for himself.
I see his opinion but I also think that when one feels like a loser and or when one is an alcoholic your life is more poor. makes sense there are different clothes as you don't take care of yourself. I think expressing your zone of genius (writing a book etc) and happy & supportive relationship can be linked to more money. I don't see anything morally wrong with the ending. It always made sense to me. BTTF best movie ever!
I agree. If we think about it………….. The obvious clues that self confidence could change the McFly family’s future were there………….And I believe them to be very relevant
Firstly at the end of the movie, Lorraine is with George out of love and not pity because her dad hits George with a car. They weren’t in love in the first part of the film. Lorraine was not an alcoholic when Marty returns, George was visibly looking after himself and they had hobbies in common. That’s gotta do wonders for a person’s self confidence in itself.
The older siblings’ more successful professional lives can easily be explained by the encouragement they would have received by loving parents who were in love with each other.
Then there’s the bit when George explains he never let’s people see his science fiction stories for fear of rejection and being told they were no good. His newfound self-confidence took away that fear. He followed his dreams and those dreams were more lucrative when he had some success.
Before Marty goes back to 1955, Biff was actively still bullying George and was his supervisor at work. Having discovered in the 50s that his life didn’t have to be that way, there was no way that situation was going to be same when Marty returned to 1985. George had stood up to Biff and wasn’t going to be a doormat. Which meant Biff couldn’t use George anymore for his own gain. Therefore, it is likely that George would be doing better professionally. That does usually mean options to have nicer things.
Then the last clue before Marty returns, when Doc hears that George had never stood up to Biff in his life. Doc’s response there and then suggests that he’s expecting obvious differences to be there when Marty returns.
I don’t take the message from the movie that having love and self-confidence guarantees financial gain. But having self-confidence to follow your dreams could lead to those rewards.
In my younger days I had serious self-doubt, which prevented me from ever asking the ladies I fancied, to have a date etc. Then years later I found out that some of those ladies wanted me to ask them. But I always assumed they’d say no. To find that out when it was too late was crushing at the time lol. To find out what I could have achieved if I had had that little bit of self-belief has pushed me to come out of my shell and go for what I previously considered unobtainable. This I believe is what George did.
The message I take is “If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything” In other words don’t let yourself be defeated by yourself. Put yourself out there and there can be rewards.
@@DCol
I never thought that the message was money=happiness. They were doing what they enjoyed so they were more successful plus George wasn't doing all Biff's work. I can kind of see why Zymekis was upset a little. He was middle aged and a kid was telling him how to write. Its petty and silly, but people who are insecure in their importance do things like this. Ultimately they had the movie they wanted and tried to ruin a young actor's career for stating an opinion.
Am I the only one who remembers that Crispin Glover was in 2 Family Ties episodes? That's the TV show Michael J. Fox was in when he was making Back to the Future. August 16, 2019, 10:10pm
For me, George McFly's reward was that he followed his dream and became a writer.
The wealth was just as a result of him being good, but I always thought that following his dream was the most important message.
exactly
You have to remember that the bulk of his frustration came from the original draft of that scene, which featured the McFlys having a servant in their home serving them breakfast and talking about the mansion they were about to buy.
@@jpollackauthor They kinda have a servant. Biff.
Though them buying a mansion would go over the top and potentially ruining the film. But isn't this just a rumor with the mansion, or is there evidence somewhere?
I agree with that. He gained confidence from standing up to a bully. Then he followed his dreams and found success.
But I can see Crispin Glover's point somewhat as well.
On the other hand the original script may have greatly benefited from his criticism. Maybe the movie we saw is actually much better because of Glover's complaints -- for which he was ostracized instead of rewarded.
@@nightmareTomek I did not perceive Biff's involvement with the family as being a servant. I thought George was doing him a favor by providing him with menial employment doing odd-jobs around the house, and over time, Biff became a devoted member of the household.
Oddly enough I didnt see it that way at the end. I saw it as a direct result of when he punched out Biff and stood up for himself he changed the course of his life. He ended up NOT working at some business under biff.. he gained confidence in himself etc.. and it changed the entire path of his life. He got his book published etc. To me I just took the "money reward" aspect as just a part of their over all life improvements in general. And in the second one they did kind of make a big deal about the time machine not being invented to win at gambling.. Of course AFTER I type all this out I see how old this is LOL -- Oh well.
That's how I always thought of it.
The younger George McFly isn't confident enough to show off his writing skills. But when he gets the confidence, he sells some stories and people give him money. It's that simple.
Yeah, me too. It was more about being confident and discovering self-belief etc. that allowed him to make the most of his life... and a little extra cash didn't hurt.
But from the way Crispin Glover described it; maybe it was even worse than what we saw. Like, he was uncomfortable about the final version too. But it sounds like they made some changes so maybe it was even worse.
I'm dying to know now what he was talking about re; the other character who was in Biff's place as some kind of 'underling' type role (what's the word I'm looking for? not necessarily a servant, but just to show that George is the big man by having someone else be working for him).
Edit: Just found out there was a maid called Bertha in one of the earlier scripts; maybe that's what he was talking about. I can see how he thought that was a little bit gross, tbh. In terms of the message it puts out there. Especially if she was a black character, but it only specifies a "uniformed maid". Whatever image that conjures up might differ from person to person...
Exactly ! He's making out like the movie ended with them living in a twenty bedroom mansion overlooking their own private island. They were modestly comfortable at the end of the movie. The guy is clearly a bit bitter especially as this was the only successful movie he was part of.
@@dmbrooksonbass Yeah, they lived in the exact same house didn't they? Maybe with tens of thousands of dollars in renovations and furniture, but people don't have to be rich to do that - just smart with finances and credit.
"Hey you, get your damn hands off her propaganda!'
Aaron Pollard, I appreciate your humour, you gave me a good belly laugh!
I always thought the second film his character looked off.. Makes sense now.
They even put the other actor upside down to make it less obvious it wasn’t crispin
Never knew until now. So many years i thought he phoned the part in and didn't give af. I have a lot more respect for him now. Sadly the propaganda worked.
The ultimately plastic surgery.
@@rsmith8434 they don't give you an opportunity to see his face and hes wearing a mold of crispen gloves face moron
Same
I’d love to see him in a Tarantino movie
Was just thinking this. That would be an amazing comeback for him. He’d be amazing in a Tarantino flick.
@@Brandonarchambault Glover and Daniel Day Lewi would make a fantastic Tarantino's movie.
Alex Gama don’t even get me started on DDL. Dude is an amazing actor. Him and Glover together...would be incredible in the lens of Tarantino for sure.
Agreed. Tarantino, DDL, and Crispin: the Internet has spoken.
Yes!
That is not what I get at the end of Back to the Future. Never crossed my mind actually. What I get is that George got self confidence (something I severely lack) to pursue his dreams and had been rewarded for it.
Lorraine was better because she got a more self confident George instead of the original George who let people bully him around thus holding him back from his dreams and her dreams.
That is what I took away from the ending.
I think that is what most people got from it and of course I agree
totally agree with you!
I mean how can anyone else come up with anything different?
I guess you could take Crispin's but most people just don't think that way. I think Crispin over thought it.
+Pixar The Great i kind of agree but you say that so come how come biff ended up with a better job than george
Chris Gemmell
In the original timeline. It was obvious that George and Biff were working at the same company and Biff was basically riding off the coattails of George. If you remember there is a scene early on where Biff asks if George did his paperwork, and mentions that he needs time to copy it into his handwriting.
In the now altered timeline, it is clear that George is better off than Biff as Biff only has a car detailing company while George is a successful writer based off his experiences with Marty from the planet Vulcan.
Crispin is soooooo much more interesting than 99% of actors.
Just say the line
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No not really.
Yes absolutely.
He's also not as famous.
He is weird but weird is good to .
I had never seen him this eloquent, coordinated and well spoken.
@Marty's 4x4 How many times did that come up?
I agree He seems like he's crazier than a crap house rat.
He seemed quite alert and present different than other interviews I've seen where he seems rather angry and distracted.
Still. He is the actor. It is not his place to tell the people making the movie how the movie should go.
@@MinusEightyIt is absolutely his place to voice his opinion on how the character would act in a given situation.
An actor can elevate a performance and a movie by doing so.
I have no doubt he would have been difficult to work with, from what I've seen, but the way he was treated wasn't fair, he was painted in a very bad light and stealing his likeness wasn't morally right. Laws and precedence on the practice being changed is a reflection on that.
@@MinusEightyStill. You are a viewer. It is not your place to tell an actor in a movie how he should be treated.
Say what you will about Crispin Glover, but he was a HUGE reason for BTTF's success. His omission from the sequels still hurt the quality of those films too.
Chris M yup, they just feel like something is missing, and that's Crispin Glover.
I agree with you. I think Crispin needs to lighten-up regarding the 'moral of the story' thing he is talking about. Regardless of that, Crispin was a large part of the success of Back to the Future.
Wrong, hes got a chip on his shoulder and should have just acted and not try to tell the producers how to write the film!
100% AGREE Very underrated actor
Tim so a sports player shouldn't suggest an idea to his coach he should just shut up and play??? Stupid logic the director and producer must of been pussies if ideas bothered them that much
The fact that the whole family became yuppies always bothered me too.
@Wes 76
It was 1985 and no one liked yuppies then. Right down to their BMW. It was a poor choice.
we've got a sociologist over here
It's an important message. 'Self Fulfilling Prophecy', if you think you're a loser you'll become a loser.
Yeah, the 80s were such a materialistic decade.
@@NUNYABIZNNAAAZZZ success , much like an opinion is subjective.