Scales For Math Rock + Emo: Start Here

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  • A Math Rock Intro Guitar Lesson On Scales: One of the most common problems that Math Rock and modern guitarists have is a lack of knowledge on how to learn scales. Moreover, a lack of understanding of why they should learn them. This video breaks down the role of scales in Math Rock and gives you 6 tips that will help you practice in a way that actually helps you make enjoyable music.
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  • @XNaturalPhenomenonX
    @XNaturalPhenomenonX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Jesus Christ! The way you structure the information really vibes with me. Your approach is really what I was looking for. Thank you!

    • @TrevorWongMusic
      @TrevorWongMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks! Glad that you found it helpful!

  • @alexmunoz1934
    @alexmunoz1934 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    If I'm ever writing music, it's thanks to you man. Started playing guitar without any scales/theory and now I'm playing catch up :/

    • @kissmeimcontagious57
      @kissmeimcontagious57 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same, I just had a shitty guitar tutor that would just talk shit to me about me not knowing the fundamentals of playing and never progressed but thanks to this channel I'm not missing out , keep it up Alex we'll get there some day

    • @mercurial1025
      @mercurial1025 ปีที่แล้ว

      same

    • @SpooningTreesap86
      @SpooningTreesap86 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same, when I was younger I didn't have as much patience so I would just want to jump straight into techniques and learning songs I wanted, it was great but I was not able to improvise really or break out of routines. Took one beginner guitar/music theory class before and know some basic fundamentals but practicing learning the scale patterns and where you can play across the fretboard like this has been amazing in re-learning and getting fundamentals down to break out of practiced routine songs/riffs.

  • @highmaple75
    @highmaple75 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    1. visualize the scale
    2. get creative with the scale (try random things within the scale, make random chords)
    3. see what you know in the scale (break down the chords you've learned/made, understand what they are)
    4. practice lines that go between multiple patterns (try using the whole fret board)
    5. get a looper and start playing around
    6. practice practice practice!

  • @PuLsarSevenMC
    @PuLsarSevenMC 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This video opened up my guitar third eye. THANK YOU.

  • @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245
    @cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I feel personally attacked for the right reasons

  • @broncoxy
    @broncoxy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think after so many years of not understanding and/or caring, I've finally understood how scales and chords and everything kind of is connected...
    And now that I know what I can do with it, I'm actually motivated to learn them... Might sound really stupid, but thanks so much!

  • @coffeebeeean
    @coffeebeeean 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've been practicing for about 6 months and I definitely think I needed to hear this. I feel like this was the answer to give me the freedom to have fun learning and exploring. Thank you for sharing

  • @TheNotoriousYJX
    @TheNotoriousYJX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Been trying to break out of the do-re-mi box for weeks and you’ve given me much to think about.

    • @TrevorWongMusic
      @TrevorWongMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Happy to hear that! Good luck with the practice

  • @estebancarbonella7214
    @estebancarbonella7214 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Trevor! Everything you explain is very easy to asimilate and totally useful, you're great at teaching

  • @joelstephenson8017
    @joelstephenson8017 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this is the best vid on making scales practical I have ever seen.

  • @TheRandomDave
    @TheRandomDave 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just wanted to say that I have really been enjoying your lessons Trevor. Thanks for the awesome content, brother.

  • @dinglebop9558
    @dinglebop9558 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably the best video I've seen explaining how to get into scales. Thanks a lot!!

  • @olfsaah145
    @olfsaah145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this great lesson. This really helped me understand for what reason i learned the scales

  • @arc6144
    @arc6144 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This inspired me to get a loop pedal now. Awesome work and thank you for sharing your knowledge!

  • @pdois7
    @pdois7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me and my friend have been looking at math rock guitar and play lately cause we want to start writing music like this genre so this video rly helped for the beginning of our musical knowledge

  • @FullMetalDMZ
    @FullMetalDMZ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video dude! I’ve learned a lot from your channel! Those 3 scale positions that you talked about here is what Rick Beato calls: behind the note, on the note & in front of the note!

  • @bobsucks9647
    @bobsucks9647 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’ve been playin Guitar on and off since I was a kid but never really took is seriously and kinda got stuck in “pentatonic purgatory” so I’m finally trying to undo it and this is exactly what I was looking for. I knew I wanted scales that sounded “mathy” or “emo” and what do ya know a video about both, appreciate it 🙌

  • @ramontarbg
    @ramontarbg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!

  • @glenolivier8099
    @glenolivier8099 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really vibing to the "Get a Looper" part.

  • @omelettttttteeeeeee
    @omelettttttteeeeeee 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic video

  • @nontrivialdog
    @nontrivialdog 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is perfect! I'm a few months into picking up the guitar. I've been studying some music theory on the side but was unsure how to integrate it into actual playing. Looks like this will help. Still need to practice finger dexterity though because my fretting hand is still clumsy and can't move that quickly.

  • @vchiflex
    @vchiflex 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love ur vids Brodie 🙌🏻🌴 thanks sm

  • @prodigyd9
    @prodigyd9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing video

  • @fendertelecaster8409
    @fendertelecaster8409 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, Mr Trevor
    Very cool!

  • @tomflynn4720
    @tomflynn4720 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video

  • @errmm561
    @errmm561 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been learning these scales for school. Always found them tedious to learn but after watching this i feel so unbelievably stupid for just memorizing how to play and not how to use. Thanks for making this video and wish that someone taught me this sooner

  • @tonytaormina4759
    @tonytaormina4759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for doing the lords work

  • @KerryFairbanks
    @KerryFairbanks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    4:00
    Do *I* know what it is? Yes. Do you? No.
    Feels

  • @Jose-iu3xl
    @Jose-iu3xl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so awesome your amazing

  • @ouz3407
    @ouz3407 ปีที่แล้ว

    best teacher

  • @kevlotec4393
    @kevlotec4393 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Youre the first person ive seen deliver the lesson in the same logic ive used. Sending this to anyone who askes me how to be jam ready.

    • @kevlotec4393
      @kevlotec4393 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh and fuck the pentatonic quicksand

  • @bigpimpin4393
    @bigpimpin4393 ปีที่แล้ว

    your a godsend

  • @minhtantran4111
    @minhtantran4111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    18 minutes? I'm so in this!!

  • @otep6800
    @otep6800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What scale did you use?

  • @zachzero7382
    @zachzero7382 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Trevor! Patron here. Do you have any plans to teach about overall composition techniques? I can write licks, chord progressions, etc, but when I try to write a song they feel like disjointed pieces and I struggle to connect them and have all those little flavorful moments and change ups from established patterns real songs have

  • @artcamp7
    @artcamp7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    that's some good and very practical advice. i dig it

  • @orion-quest
    @orion-quest 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    🖖TREVOR WONG : GUITAR HERO🖖

  • @PositiveOak504
    @PositiveOak504 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Instructional and beautiful at the same time

  • @alonewithmyart
    @alonewithmyart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I want learn guitar and mathrock so bad but literally have no idea where start 😕

  • @riccardopausini2108
    @riccardopausini2108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Could you please break down some songs by "by the end of summer"🙏

    • @brandonk546
      @brandonk546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love them soo much! laughing ep is great

    • @lubelover3000
      @lubelover3000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yes! buzz lightyear!!

    • @rdanendra
      @rdanendra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Even now" is so damn good!

    • @lubelover3000
      @lubelover3000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rdanendra yeah! so is phony!

  • @langywpqw
    @langywpqw 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey! I wish to ask do you do lessons? Id like to take some lessons to get some insight on my playing.

  • @itsxseed
    @itsxseed 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What makes those notes cool sounds? It's weird because my ear recognizes the ones which tickle my ear, just as you affirmed while teaching. I understand it is a combination of rhythm and other factors. I guess the question I have are there specific tones in each scale that are cool because of the position in relation to the scale? Such as being a 3rd or 5th?

  • @stellamaris9634
    @stellamaris9634 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Which scale are you using here?

  • @ShwaShwaShwa
    @ShwaShwaShwa 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what scale were you playing?

  • @NoahLavineASP
    @NoahLavineASP 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No dislikes; is all things should be!

  • @fishylogic222
    @fishylogic222 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    math rock bob ross

  • @ArrozAguado
    @ArrozAguado 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What scale did you use here?

  • @ranatha
    @ranatha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Everytime i try to make math rock, it ends with progressive death metal

  • @rafaromero9514
    @rafaromero9514 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Everytime I try to make a math rock riff I end up with something more post rock

    • @emosnotmyname6188
      @emosnotmyname6188 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For me a big step was adding a little angst or spunk to what I play. I know that’s broad and open ended but I think it differs for person.

    • @TheSquareOnes
      @TheSquareOnes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The two genres often overlap but if you're really not getting as much "math" as you want you should probably try focusing on rhythm more. A very simple trick is just adding and removing beats, taking away or adding just a single quarter or eight note somewhere can immediately add a lot of rhythmic angularity to a riff without a lot of extra effort. You can even string together a few variations of the same riff, mixed meter will land you pretty firmly into math rock territory every time.
      But also, just play what you want to play without worrying about the labels. Maybe you just prefer post-rock and want to write more of that, that's totally cool. Post-rock is awesome too.

    • @Isaiah_McIntosh
      @Isaiah_McIntosh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @tomyourmom emphasize the 4 chord more. Stay a bit more diatonic. Less 251's maybe incorporate for simple pop progression ideas then embellish it rhythmically and with extensions. Use your open strings more. Just some stuff to make it less jazz and more math rock. Possibly focus on specific chors voicings which show up in the bands you like.

  • @lemonexhaustion8525
    @lemonexhaustion8525 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish I was taught like this, I wasted so much time and money (also I really hope that 6/9 chord was on accident)

    • @TrevorWongMusic
      @TrevorWongMusic  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah it's unfortunate, I think most guitar teachers come from a different background / style that utilizes the scale differently. For this style, it's definitely all about creativity and composition.

  • @tedwasanasan3805
    @tedwasanasan3805 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Its a 6/9 chord btw." I appreciate the need to be smart.

  • @xertiasstrat8957
    @xertiasstrat8957 ปีที่แล้ว

    rip me