We're killers, but we're not going to kill today! (Kirk Speech)
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- Another Kirk speech, this time on 'humans are barbarians which are able to train themselves to fight the urge to kill'. Kirk convinces Anan 7 to make peace with the enemy and end a war that is going on for five hundred years. According to the story of A Taste of Armageddon that war never ended, because the councils of Eminiar Seven and Vendikar agreed to let the war be fought by computers which calculate casualties who then walk into disintegration machines. Anan 7 believes this method of waging war is less barbaric, more civilized. Kirk destroys the war computers on Eminiar Seven to give the bloody reality of a real war back to the councils of Eminiar Seven and Vendikar to make them end the war as fast as possible.
Transcript of A Taste of Armageddon: www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/23.htm - บันเทิง
If you've watched this video and have been shown an ad: the money doesn't go to me, it goes to CBS who owns the copyright. I have uploaded this scene of the Star Trek episode "A Taste of Armageddon" with the message in mind. It's sort of an advertisement also - not for any money - but because I believe that the story is important in the world of today. I fully affirm and welcome that any money made by this video goes to the rightful owner of its content.
I believe the overall message Roddenberry was trying to subtly put forth in the series is still important today. Not just this scene or episode but throughout. Sadly, the new spinoff are nothing more than corporate drek and in many way the antithesis of his message. Thanks for posting.
This is one of the most important quotes from the whole franchise of Star Trek. Yes, we are a killer species, ( not herbavores! ) But we make the choice to not kill today. That's all it takes to start to make peace. Our Politicians need to hear this message all the time. Stop the Wars. Make Peace. Just for today, NATO, USA, Russia, China, and all the nations of planet Earth: Make Peace ! Today !
I can admit I am an alcoholic, but i'm not going to drink today.
I hope you'll be able to keep away from alcohol forever.
@@MarvinFalz So do i. But we have to take it "A day at a time" because putting pressure on ourselves makes us vulnerable.
@@johntrevy1
I will remember that. Be careful out there. You are a good person.
@@johntrevy1 This is the essence of what Kirk is trying to say that we can defeat instinct and savagery with discipline and intellect.
Take it as it comes. We're pulling for you.
Is there a 12 step program for starship captains? ;)
what made Star Trek different is that sometimes, beyond the silliness, they came up with a gem like this.
Very true!
The screenplays were always great despite some of the hokey low-budget props they had to work with. Scripts and acting were absolutely superior.
@@jaelge it was played like a stage play so the props were meant to be representational not actual. made for better acting
they invented AA?
I love how he looks at Spock when he says we're human being, as if to say "I know, I know, but now's not the time."
This applies to a lot of things, getting better always starts with saying "i will be better today". Without getting too personal for a youtube comment, I used to be very suicidal, and when I felt I couldn't live to the end of the week i would say "maybe, but I won't kill myself today."
Great to hear that you got better.
Alcoholic/drug addict: "I am not going to drink/do drugs today." ...A simple statement that can change your life.
Smoker: "I choose not to have a smoke today." ..,That one is personal to me, since I LOVE cigars. ...Again, One day at a time.
With bonus content ? 😂
"Contact Vendecar, I think you'll find that they're just as terrified, appalled, and horrified as you are, that they'd do ANYTHING to avoid the alternative."
That line aways hit me because it's so true.
sometimes yes, maybe often. But sadly, when a dictator is in charge such as Hitler, Stalin, Saddam... they do not care about the people and will wage war and kill until somebody stops them
It can't be said enough that this is one of the best examples of star trek.
Yes, I don't believe in the Star Trek utopia anymore, but I still love those character. They're still great role models.
AND what was missing from all the other incarnations.
I've always loved 'A Taste of Armageddon.' Classic 'big idea' Trek that illustrated an interesting moral question (also obviously very relevant to the M.A.D. '60s).
So many awesome, ethical, heartfelt values.
I started watching TOS for the first time recently, and was pretty surprised to see that Kirk didn't quite match up to his reputation. I mean sure, he's got that hot streak and he's kissed a couple of women, but stuff like this shows that he could be just as diplomatic as Picard, and the show as a whole could be just as thought-provoking. And what I find interesting is that, while we like to say things like "still sadly relevant today", this episode demonstrates that it'll always be true. We're all humans, and despite Roddenberry's insistence that his 24th century denizens had grown past the need for war and power, there's proof that it'll always be there. The true evolution will be in our power to stop it, not completely ignore or eliminate it.
I agree. Roddenberry's vision of the future is a nice fantasy, nonetheless inspiring, and something worth aspiring to. What they got right from the start, is that humans aren't God, and humans aren't able to create paradise. We're able to gather knowledge and invent technology that makes life better, at the same time that knowledge and technology can be misused. But as you said, the true evolution will be in our power to stop it, and imo Spock's lifestyle is the way to go.
Kirk at his finest! Watch those golden eyes flash! Started watching this series when I was 15 and the shows were first broadcast. At 69, still watching and loving every minute! Learned all my important life lessons watching TOS!
Terrific series and still great to watch even now! Thanks to Desilu and the late great Lucille Ball!!!!!
@@scottmiller6495:
Didn´t Lucy initially think it was an educational science show or something?
@Peter Flood That's not necessary to say to people that are really seriously interested in this fantastic television show from the great 1960 s!!!!!
@@jaelge I'm not sure never heard that before,but Lucille Ball and her Desilu studios put out and produced Quality Television that we will never Ever See again Ever Period!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@scottmiller6495:
Couldn´t agree more, brother. It´s almost all Liberal virtue signalling, gratuitous sex, and thinly veiled paedophilia now. Dropped all cable and network shit in favour of streaming over five years ago. I did recently drop Netflix though, it´s turned to shite. (peace)
This is Star Trek
Very much. The only Star Trek I ever cared about.
No, this is Patrick.
It looked like a meeting of sheep rapers anonymous. But that meeting was caaaaaaaaaanceled
The sky is blue
you don't say
People who say that Shatner can't act have apparently never watched Sulu's acting.
One of the finest scenes in all of Star Trek. What a shame this series didn't get the financial backing and proper time slot. It would have lasted at least 5 years.
It did. 3 live action 2 animated.
@@srb9 Perhaps story wise, yes.
One of the best speeches given about the Human mindset and it came from a 1960's TV show...
CLASSIC!
A lot of my lessons in morality, logic, and critical thinking came from Star Trek and the Twilight Zone.
@@jaelge Yeah, I picked up a great deal of my beliefs from watching Star Trek. Roddenberry's ideals really influenced a number of generations and will continue to do so until we live up to them.
Shatner was a far better actor than some fans give him credit for. And this scene is a good example of that. He just needed the right director to work with.
Yes, and he's really great in Court Martial.
People who say Shatner can't act, don't know acting.
Shatner can be an incredibly annoying pompous ass, especially in his later years; BUT....he can also be a DAMN good actor, too. He's gotten a couple of Emmy awards, if I recall correctly.
Also, Kirk was sort of on the other side of this same dilemma in "Errand of Mercy": he very much wants to go to war with the Klingons, and they want the same; and the Organians bring them both up by the short hairs and remind Kirk what his greater mission really is.
The statement "We are killers, but we are not going to kill today." is true for "I'm an alcoholic, but I won't drink an alcoholic beverage today." Or "I'm addicted to cigarettes' but won't smoke today." The person to be convinced is yourself. Don't give a darned what anyone else thinks or says!
So true! Well-said.
Man truly started to evolve when he said, "I will not kill today."
I feel like "We will not kill today" is the best humanity is ever gonna reach. None of that TNG DS9 Voyager crap about being "enlightened" and "not savage".
@@proudamerican183 That instinct will always be necessary, for there are and always will be times when one's survival depends on it--in situations with other creatures (human beings, animals, and perhaps, one day, even extraterrestrials). A piano, organ, or harpsichord keyboard doesn't consist of right and wrong notes; each key is correct at certain times, and incorrect at others; so it is with human instincts, but if one compares our times with ancient times, the "moral music of humanity" has demonstrably improved--slavery and tyranny are no longer considered right, normal, and just, among other improvements.
"We are not going to kill today"
This would make for a great song title! 😁😁
I picture an African chant
THIS IS SCNE IS WHAT STAR TREK IS!!!!
I just love the scene just after this when Spock says to Kirk 'It might just work' the look Kirk gives him is the sweetest in the whole series in my opinion just such a sweet natural smile I just melt every time.😍
I admit I bought a flat-pack wardrobe.
But I'm not going to assemble it today.
Shatner is underrated.
Absolutely!
This is why I like to refer to this era of science fiction as "Grow up or blow up" since the threat of the Cold War and nuclear annihilation was a very real and present thing. It's also an example of "Speak softly but carry a big stick". Being pro-peace doesn't make you weak, but rather that you acknowledge the horrors of war and strive to avoid it at all cost. A good military is like a fire extinguisher, it's good to have one but hope and pray you never have to use it. Sadly, it feels these ideas are lost on a lot of people.
I always appreciate how Star Trek would tackle topical issues in the world, sometimes without us even seeing it.
Look at his eyes. Chris Pine NEVER looked serious like that. For me he had an L.A "yo dude make peace!" way about him.
Lol
I think Chris Pine did well with what he was given. But yes, those movies wrote the public stereotype of Kirk, not the actual character. He was more like Zap Branigan.
One of my favorite speeches in all of star trek- yes, like some people are saying that it feels very human, that it ADMITS to the savagery of the human race, and acknowledges that "we're killers" but we can choose to not kill, but ALSO because it's Kirk giving it, and it feels very Kirk-like to me, it's so human in a very specific Jim Kirk way
Kirk was pretty ballsy, taking two worlds to the brink of war in order to stop them from waging it. Hey, maybe this is where the MAD strategy came from. MAD: Mutually Assured Destruction
They were already at war.
@@tomf3150 But they took out of it the pain and suffering and blood and destruction of real war. They forgot why it is a thing to be avoided.
Possible. I don't know. Seems like Balance of Terror points into the same direction. They decided to destroy the Romulan vessel in order to prevent a war.
@@MarvinFalz I would argue it's the same thing. Kirk essentially told the Romulans a war with the federation wouldnt be easy. It would be to the death, and the Romulans just lost round one. So were back to peace or utter destruction.
@@navyreviewer I think so too. In their meeting in the briefing room in Balance of Terror, McCoy says "War is never imperative." Spock counters "It is to them, doctor." He agrees to attack the Romulan ship, because he knows, if they don't act now, they'll come back.
One must also understand that this was written during the height of the Cold War.
Kirk was the "punch first, talk later" type and Picard was the "talk first, punch later" type. But sometimes we got to see these moments, and I love each and every one of them.
Sometimes Picard had to punch. And sometimes Kirk had to talk. And in both cases when they had to, they did, with no regrets and a fair amount of skill. There's a reason they were Starfleet captains.
I loved the part where he asks "what kind of man are you?". Kirk says I'm a barbarian, you said so yourself
Peace or utter destruction?
That's a tough choice.
Tell that to the rest of humanity.
And one this planet struggles with every day. To the point that, we continously choose wrong.
Love the two tone colors behind Kirk’s head
Me too. The colors and the sounds/music in TOS are one big reason, why I love TOS.
Shatner's delivery is genius here.
Kirk doesn't have a lot of time here. He's trying to convince Anon 7, a man set in his ways, to change them, preferably BEFORE Vendikar starts replicating real bombs at an astonishing rate. He may have hours, he may have minutes, this is a more advanced society than it looks from the outside, we don't know how long it would take them to arm for war and it may be faster than they think possible, so he's gotta talk quickly.
I love the fact that the useless popinjay Ambassador Fox who spends most of the episode being a complete boat anchor, comes through at the last second to prove really useful to the process of extricating Enterprise from the situation and stabilizing stable relations with Emeniar & Vendikar.
At least Kirk can admit that humans are utterly savage. Everyone in TNG pretends that humanity has literally evolved away from savagery.
This. It's also the reason, why I like TOS the most. The human characters feel realistic, I'm able to identify with their problems, and I'm interested in their conflicts. All that esoteric stuff, and the supposed enlightened society of the future, is background to me. I'm not so convinced that the enlightened society of the future is possible.
@@MarvinFalz Interesting point: if a society that's "enlightened" or perfect isn't possible, what's the point in working towards one? Yet the implications of that mindset are grim, imagine if we all decided working for a better tomorrow was meaningless!
I suppose the middle ground is to recognize the problems of our society and always strive for progress, while keeping in mind that such progress can always be undone and must constantly be fought for.
@@PurtyPurple I still think that humans are capable of bettering themselves, and I love the overall attitude displayed in TOS. I just don't believe in the technological utopia of the world TOS takes place in. It seems to me that technology gives rise to a lot of problems, beginning with health problems, ending with misuse of tech against populations. But in any case, I agree,especially with your last sentence.
Everybody in denial except for Q.
A grievously savage child race.
How much we NEED to hear this message, no more so than now in 2022!! When will we learn?!
We've done an admirable job of not blowing up the planet over the last 90 years or so. We've had chances, but every time it got close some brave person was on hand to say no.
Let's see.. since this episode came out in 1967...we've had Vietnam, Cambodia, Cambodia-Vietnam, Vietnam-China, India-Pakistan (twice), Middle East (a dozen times), Iraq-Iran, USSR-Afghanistan, 9-11, USA-Iraq (twice), USA-Afghanistan, Libya and Syria. And...we were seconds away from World War III when, on September 26, 1983, Russian lieutenant-colonel Stanislav Petrov single handedly saved humanity by refusing to turn a nuclear missile launch key .
The Second Congo War
@@therootofeverything3623 Yeah, you're right. It was terrible. Thanks.
Even by today's standard, Kirk's speech accepting the killer instinct is ahead of our time. He accepts and attempted to resolve the problem instead of ignoring it altogether with a egotistical we're better than this speech.
Ha! This! I believe, the world would be a better place, if all the politicians in the world would acknowledge how they really are. Then they might make better decisions, and by that I mean decisions which are in the interest of the people, instead of rather the interests of themselves and their business cronies.
@@MarvinFalz If you want to fix a problem, you have to acknowledge it exists. Ignoring a basic instinct or behavior that is the foundation of our species and pretending we have evolved beyond that, is not a productive way to stop a bad situation. You need to focus on the black, white, and grey areas. It may not be easy but no one ever said that the right thing is always the easy thing.
We're not going to kill today. SOOOO .. when I get out of bed tomorrow and the instinct moves me to kill today, does that make it alright?? LOL always loved this line as it sort of implies waking up every morning and thinking "Hmm, what do I have to do today .. laundry, shopping, clean the bathroom, well no killing on the list for today at least". And then I remember a Robot Chicken scene where Jason is just living around his house, marking days off on a calendar. And then he sees the next day is Friday the 13th and he gets SO happy and excited, and goes to sleep to later jump out of bed like a little kid, and then goes on a rampage like always. And it ends with him crossing off Friday the 13th, getting dejected, and going back to routine. LOL
No, you plebe. It means that we have the ability to fight our baser instincts. Ergo, I refuse to kill TODAY. And when I get up the next day, I refuse to kill that day as well. In other words, it will take a bit of effort to do the right thing, until it becomes a habit.
Brilliant episode- far ahead of it’s time.
McCoy: Jim, you're a captain, not a philosopher!
Anytime someone tells me that Kirk is a warmonger, I show them this clip
It's more that he's a gambler/risk-taker.
That’s deep! Love this about Star Trek
One thing I liked about TOS is that they thought with thier brain's, not with thier fists.
And in episodes where Kirk did think with his fists, like in Arena and Errand of Mercy, it was a point of the story.
Yes, there were times, but only because that was all they understood.
@@ivorholtskog5506 what was that episode where they have a trial for kirk and while the trial is going on they just let kirk beam himself onto the enterprise and have a 1v1 fistfight against a dude? that was pretty stupid imo.
It's critical who breaks the peace. And how they break the peace.
Damn Kirk. Get it done
What a great speech!
Got recommended this, I can feel a wave of people to be here soon.
Sounds like good news. Any ideas what short clip from TOS I should upload next?
I’m here
@Justice If it was 0 people you'd have an opportunity to quote Al Bundy from the episode where he opens a shoe hotline: today 0, tomorrow twice as much!
I tear up when Kat does... (and my heart goes out to her)
David Opatoshu as Anan Seven is very good in this episode, as a leader prosecuting a “forever war” who suddenly grasps that his people and their adversaries “don’t have to kill today”.
He's really good in conveying Anan Seven's conviction that although this war is forever, it is at least clean and leaves the infrastructure and the culture intact. Anan Seven really believes his society is more humane than the one Kirk represents.
@@MarvinFalz I've always loved the bit where Spock says he sees the logic in it and Anan is glad for his approval, and Spock says "I do *not* approve. I understand."
I can imagine Picard delivering this speech with equal aplomb
Most criticism of the original series are based on stereotypes not the series, Kirk loved peace and he was an explorer at heart but there was also the completely believable aspect that the Enterprise was also the only thing standing between vulnerable federation planets and colonies and hostile forces and when the situation warranted he was capable of blowing the bad guys out of the stars none of the spin offs completely got it
Amen Peace is the ultimate objective.
I will not kill... today.
Nobody said anything about tomorrow. That's always open for discussion
So basically you admit that you could brutally kill everyone around you - but instead of giving in, you greet them and ask them about they day.
Choose to be in control!
Basically. I mean, I don't think Kirk meant to say, humans have to deal with a constant urge to kill everybody, but humans are capable to kill for all sorts of reasons. Choose to be in control!
of course, having Mr. Scott and a fully charged phaser bank behind you...
Fascinating!
Right after this Anan 7 says “We have a direct channel to Vendikar’s high council but it hasn’t been used in centuries”. How do they know it still works then?
Only one way to find out.
Fine sentiment. Getting the other killer to agree to it is the tricky part.
If memory serves, both planets had the power to annihilate each other if they used their weapons for real. Vendikar's only option other than peace was total annihilation. That's a pretty easy sell. :-)
That's my Captain right there.
One day at a time.
I love the speech, but you gotta admit that this is the most Shatner ever Shatnered a scene.
Definitely is one of the Shatnered scenes. I admit that.
I will admit it. But I actually like that about his acting.
We can stop it.............We can admit we are killers.........but we are not going to kill today..........
It's almost like Kirk is asking us to begin a twelve step program to end our barbaric, violent tendencies.
I'm not a killer but don't push me...
The Prime Directive is more of a suggestion to Kirk.
It seems that the definition of Prime Directive changes from TOS to TNG? In 'Return of the Archons' Spock reminds Kirk of the Prime Directive, and Kirk answers that the Directive refers to a living, growing culture. Then the next mention of the Prime Directive plus an interesting discussion about the ideal society is found many episodes later in The Apple. Kirk seems to be justified to interfere, because the cultures he interferes with aren't living and growing. As far as I know, the Prime Directive is much more detailed in TNG.
I'm fairly certain this speech was. The. Origin. Of. The. Shatner. Period.
I am a killer but I'm not going to kill today wow add your opinion to that
And it's just that simple
Who's here because of "For All Mankind"?
Like a boss !!!
To me this seems to be a serious violation of the prime directive.
The idea has been around since humanity began - to rise up above your animal instincts - to act like you were made in the image of God. Very few consider it. Even fewer try it and fewer still succeed.
God uses this to show us our need for Him but people a hard set on not seeing and not hearing.
"Go to this people, and say,
*“You will indeed hear but never understand,*
*and you will indeed see but never perceive."*
For this people's heart has grown dull,
and with their ears they can barely hear,
and their eyes they have closed;
lest they should see with their eyes
and hear with their ears
and understand with their heart
and turn, and I would heal them."
Then I said, “How long, O Lord?”
And he said:
“Until cities lie waste
without inhabitant,
and houses without people,
and the land is a desolate waste,
- Isaiah 6.9 - 11
I see it the same way. Right now, the West is in decline. Perhaps, when enough people at the right places of influence and power understand what's going on, and achieve to turn the tide, before it's too late, the West won't crash. I'm btw. in Germany, and what I see in US media, is what happens in Germany, too, just with a delay. But sometimes it's the action of one person, which prevents disaster, like Queen Esther petitioning for her people. Besides that, there really is nothing new under the sun (Ecc. 1:9), except that the amount of knowledge and the superb quality of life has been significantly increased. I like to think humanity is perserverant enough to survive whatever will come next. And that's also a prime message of Star Trek TOS.
@@MarvinFalz - The point of this lesson (the entire human narrative) is that we cannot get this right without God. We can imagine a better world and a better humanity but we absolutely cannot achieve it without seeking God.
It is not just western society in decline. It is human society. Quality of life is not about what's on the ground (technology). Quality of life is about what's in the heart and for Mankind today, that's sinking fast.
Blessings to you!
@@rubiks6 Blessings to you, too!
Got recommended
No Kill I
Love Devil in the Dark too!
Kirk m'a touché en plein cœur ❤
Captain i love you 😊 for all time !
Mais ne le dites à personne 🙃
“Butwecanstopit!!”
i love this.
This episode is so disturbing, people cheerfully killing themselves cos computer instructions
You’re looking at the final days of a beautiful hairline!
Spock, set phaser timer to 24 hours.
I'm an Imperial, but I'm not going to fight for the Empire today
It's treason then
@@kusada3035 I've done my bid for Empire and Emperor strike me down and you will only seal your fate
This made me do a double-take -
I didn’t remember the episode or this exchange, but I saw this guy (and how he is dressed), and it fooled my brain - given that this guy is *CLEARLY* Klingon.
I thought this was from Day of The Dove, actually.
Because of that ribbon, right? They both wear ribbons, whatever they're called, to mark them as leaders.
The guy is an Eminian. This was a few episodes before the Klingons debuted, and some of the props (and costumes?) were re-used. :)
Kirk right ..monster I am ..ye monster I become
based.
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Not going to kill today......guess I'll just start over.....yesterday was not ENTIRELY successful......
Kirk practicing his peculiar version of the prime directive...
At this point all we know about the Prime Directive is that it only refers to a living, growing culture. And since the Organian culture is totally stagnant, Kirk is justified in interfering into their affairs.
@@MarvinFalz No, nah, that won't wash. The culture on both those planets was thriving under their form of warfare. The whole point of their computer war was to keep their two civilizations from ruin. Just because Kirk found it distasteful didn't give him the right to interfere in their affairs. If you're going to start deciding which planets don't have thriving, growing, cultures, based on some arbitrary basis that is so ambivalent it can be applied to anyone, than nobody in the galaxy is safe from the Federation, and it's time to overthrow their entire, corrupt, system! Either the Prime Directive means something, or its doesn't.
@@williamanthony9090 I see it the same way as you do, but at that point in time, there was nothing more to the Prime Directive, than what has been said an episode or two prior to this one. Besides that, Kirk was pushed (by the ambassador) and pulled (by Anan Seven) into this war, so he had to do something to free the Enterprise. Of course, he could have just forced Anan Seven to let them go. And, I see the episodes Return of the Archons, A Taste of Armageddon, Errand of Mercy and The Apple as a continuum, in which the spirit of the Prime Directive is continually laid out.
@@MarvinFalz - Frankly, I don't think the concept was all that well thought out by Roddenberry in the first place. Thus, it became a continuous problem for Star Trek writers to work around. 'Return Of The Archons' was a clear cut case of an arrested culture. This episode, however, was just as clearly a violation of the directive as ever seen in the original series!!! Had they been true to their own supposed code, Kirk should have been arrested, court-martialed, convicted, stripped of his rank, and sent off to a military penal colony, end of story---Lol. I know... I know... In the grand scheme of things, it's a small point to ponder, but Roddenberry drew a metaphoric line in the sand that became a major stumbling block throughout the course of the series. A MESS if you will, that was unresolvable thanks to the very ambiguity of Roddenberry's silly concept. In short, it was a bad idea from the start, and only got worse as the show progressed through the years.
@@williamanthony9090 Sounds like they - Roddenberry and the writers - were making it up as they went along. I hadn't realized up until now that the mention of a Prime Directive became a stumbling block. I guess, this is similar to what we're told about the Federation, Starfleet, Vulcans etc.
- Everybody's supposedly "delighted with who we are," yet there is conflict everywhere. Kirk is split into his good and his evil side, and he needs both to be himself.
- When the Galileo Seven is stranded and Spock is in command, everybody around him reacts emotionally, they're constantly irritated and angry with him, like they've never been around him ever before. This is mankind's elite, the best of the best humans, yet they behave like petty little a holes, even though Spock's only concern is to get everybody safely out of the life-threatening situation. When this is the elite, I don't want to meet the "common people."
- The Vulcans, though supposedly unemotional, logical and more evolved than humans, come off as petty, too.
- In Journey to Babel, which to me is a prime example that the whole "enlightened society of the future" is rather a wish than a reality, the representatives of the planets all have their own interests in mind. And when I read the title, I am reminded of the Tower of Babel.
And technology in TOS is portrayed as beneficial, but also as some sort of enemy to humanity. When I think about it, as much as I love and prefer TOS over TNG, but somehow TNG is closer to reality, less utopian, less optimistic. Picard is more diplomatic than Kirk. Kirk was more of a soldier, who had to learn to be more diplomatic. And the Borg are a formidable enemy for mankind, they're the epitomy of the dark side of humanity.
Captain Kirks boys sound little off as if like they ran the tape a little fast is voice sounds squeaky and his voice is not squeaky
Kirk's voice is weird. Time compression?
It's like that on the DVD I pulled the clip from.
why is the film speeded up? (You can tell from the high pitched voices)
I checked the video out just now on YT, and I don't hear the voices in a higher pitch.
@@MarvinFalz It's slight but perceptible
@@domainofthesun4400 Hm, okay, thanks for the tip!
@@MarvinFalz I also came to the comments looking for this question. Definitely some chipmunk effect.
@@JTProud Okay. So I checked the uploaded file, the MKV file extracted from the DVD , the DVD itself, and this video. They all sound the same. So, perhaps the version on the DVD is sped up?
Shatner was so coked up.
Yeah , that is all it takes UNTIL ... you meet that one prick ....... lol
sounds like MAD
Making the war as bloody as possible for both sides, to incentivise peace.
@@MarvinFalz When the horrifying reality of war and violence is sanitized and removed from the experiences of the people who facilitate it, bad things happen. Think about the wealthy folks who instigated war to profit off of the weapons trade while avoiding drafts.
It's a fault of our species that our empathy is usually limited to that which is personal.
@@PurtyPurple It's easier to feel good than bad. The urge to always feel good seems to be a natural human trait. Empathy needs to be trained. That's always been one of Kirk's strongest character traits, the ability to feel what others feel, and react accordingly, often with understanding words, an understanding touch of comfort. Unfortunately, modern Western societies seem to gradually fall into the trap of "Do what thou wilt, shall be the whole of the law," which leads to narcissism, facilitated by "social" media. Gene Roddenberry might have been a godless communist, but the moral values TOS promotes, seem to be largely biblically inspired. At least, Star Trek values go beyond a narcissistic self, which wants to feel good all the time. I believe, that's basically the message of "Where No Man Has Gone Before," where Kirk has to kill his old friend, who developed godlike powers and even went so far to demand to be worshipped.
Hey Kirk, get off of my cloud
That’s the official story
Set the speed to 0.75 and enjoy a less hammy and more measured Kirk
Much better
I don't think speaking faster is necessarily "hammy"
@@spockboy It's sped up and sounds like actual shit
Ngl I was laughing so hard when I first saw this scene
that's all olt takes admitting that were not going to kill today when are we ver going to learn this when1
So much material from the original series yet terrible movies
Kirk is right ..monster I am ..ye monster I become . until we are ready to say this ..wars will continue ..this is our dark side ..
This is why I do and always will like the original series best. Kirk would just kill the bad guys, instead of the Picard way of begging and talking them to death.
One of the reasons why I like the original series best is that Kirk is more likable than Picard. Kirk is emotionally close to others, Picard is rather distant. The crew of the original series feels close with each other, like they have spent years together flying from adventure to adventure. The crew of TNG doesn't. I also like the music and the coloring of TOS better. And Kirk would usually be part of the landing crew, and if he had to, he would just fight with his fists.
@Dee Atkinson It's just logical. I guess though, that Kirk wouldn't have listened to Data, since he loves adventures.
@@MarvinFalz I get your idea, but I would put it differently: they are like the "Band of Brothers": they have been through combat together and saved each others lives, possibly more than once.
@@lewisvanatta639 Makes sense to me.
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