I can't wait for these to be available. I've been trying to find a good cone winder for years and almost bought an industrial one, LOL. I've been following your development of this closely and I'm so glad to hear its coming along nicely.
This is looking good. I definitely will be going from a swift to a cone.. I'd like to know how the new yardage counter could be used to measure the yardage as the cone is wound.
Thanks for the request. I will try to do a video about using the yarn counter with this cone winder soon. Oddly enough I sent all my yarn counters out to beta testers so I don't have one right now, but I will get one soon and will try this test then. While the code to handle this is there, I haven't tested it and I might end up having to adjust things some when I do test it.
This will be amazing for working with my CSM as I need something that winds with more even tension then my regular cake winder. I really admire the work and thought you put into these. My EEW is a delight and I can't wait for this to come out!
I will eventually make it a Kickstarter, but I don't do Kickstarters until I have the design finalized and have started to prepare the design for manufacturing. Waiting greatly increases my odds of finishing the kickstarter on schedule. I don't really have a timeframe for the Kickstarter yet, but it will be awhile since I expect several more improvements before it's ready to be released.
@@DreamingRobotsBlog you already have a lot of interest in a kickstarter, can't wait for this and the yarn counter. Are you likely to do both at the same time?
@@AmandaLawrence_poisondwarf66 The kickstarter for the yarn counter and cone winder will be at different times. It would be too much work at the same time if I did them simultaneously. I want to be able to give each one my full attention and make sure both are the best they can be. I just don't feel I could do that if I did both at the same time.
The Cone Winder is not yet ready. I'm still working on the design. Once the design is finalized I will have a Kickstarter for it, but that will take awhile. It is a new type of product for me and I've been getting a lot of great feedback from lots of people and I'm taking the time to make sure I get the cone winder very good. The best way to keep updated on this is my monthly newsletter which you can sign up for at the bottom of www.dreamingrobots.com.
There will be some adapters, but for weaving bobbins to work they would need to be just a tube. The types of tubes with ridges on the edges wouldn't work with the drum roller. The drum needs to rest on the yarn as it's being wound onto the cone or bobbin. If it has ridges then the drum will rest on those and spin the bobbin at the wrong speed.
I have considered this, but making it motorized is something I have a lot of experience with so I decided to do that version. The hand crank version would require a lot of separate design and testing so it doesn't make sense to do both versions in the future. Based on how this motorized version does and the feedback I get then I might do a crank version someday, but I am not making an promises.
Can you make it to hold up to 10 oz of yarn??? That would be glorious!!! Love the updates on this can you make that yarn guide more sturdier with metal with where it clips and with the wing nut??? I would sooo break that yarn guide and it wouldn't be strong enough for me LOL! I am super hard on that part on my winder
I'm not likely to change its size again, but we will see once a beta tester gets it how much yarn they fit on it. I don't really want to give a final number without others testing it. I'm working on a new guide. I did actually try just using wing nuts, but I wasn't happy with that so I'm using a more complex clamping system, but I expect it to completely solve the issues. The only downside is you will need a screwdriver to take it on/off with this system.
Even before beta. I think an improvement would be a more ridged arm. The amount of bouncing around it does may effect how even finer yarns and silks get loaded onto a cone because the bouncing will effect the tension of the yarn.
The injection molded arm will be a little stiffer, but going beyond that would significant expense since it would either require a metal arm or adding some custom stiffeners. In my personal testing I haven't seen the stiffness of the arm affecting tension and am not exactly sure from your explanation how it would. The only thing that arm does is push the cone down on the drum so the cone rotates at the same speed as the drum.
Sorry, my bad with my terms. I was referring to the part that sticks out and guides the yarn. With the way it bounces up and down, it will have the effect of changing the tension from high to low rapidly. While it likely won't effect thicker yarns, it will possibly cause twists/tangles with thinner ones. Think of 3d printer filament when you loosen the filament on the spool, it will sometimes slip under part of the spool further down the filament and cause snags while printing.
@@Falney Thanks for the clarification. I call that the yarn guide. I have been working on ways to adhere that better and look for improvements in future prototypes there.
@@DreamingRobotsBlog you could print an upside V that runs flush with the table/desk with a hole in it to put a post in on the end. It is simple geometry that will be easy to injection mold or 3d print and will provide ridgedness on 2 axis.
@@Falney The next version does this with a stamped metal u clamp, but it doesn't fit very well so I might need to go with an injection molded version like you proposed. The reason I'd try to avoid the injection molded version is because making each different mold is expensive, but you are right that this would solve it.
Would it be possible to have it do half width balls of wool, therefore the rotation guide perhaps be replaced with half the size? Therefore the machine do both cones and balls which I think are also called cakes
That is possible, but it would require a different drum and some different parts (probably 3d printed). To me it seems way simpler to just use the full sized cones and just put however much yarn you want on them. The benefit of the half sized cones to me would be designing a machine around these smaller cones which would reduce the size and price of such a machine. I asked about this earlier and most people wanted the full size cones so that is the version I am designing.
This looks awesome. I was wondering if you have thought about some sort of break away if the yarn knots? And then have you tried using it for standard skein yarn without the swift?
I'm pretty sure if you used a skein of yarn without a swift it would get tangled. If you went at slower speeds and held the skein in your hand it should work, but I have not tried this. I have a plan to monitor the motor rotations and stop spinning if I see things get stuck from a tangle. But I haven't implemented this in the software yet. It won't stop if you are spinning really fine yarn and it snaps, but if you are normal or thick yarn that is strong enough that it causes a jam then the motor would stop spinning.
Not yet. I'm continuing to work on the prototypes. I will announce more information to this TH-cam channel when I have it, or you can subscribe to my newsletter here: www.dreamingrobots.com/
Thanks for the honest feedback. I really appreciate seeing this. But don't worry about this raising my prices. I price my products based on how much they cost me to make with a margin to make a fair profit factoring in how many I expect to sell. I like keeping the prices low so more people can buy them. As long am I'm making a good living for my family, I'd much rather see more people using my inventions than trying to maximize profits.
Sounds good! I think a lot of us in the machine knitting world would be really interested in this. I’m a production knitter and it’s likely I’d be doing 10-20 100 gram cones a week, often 3-5 in a sitting. Think the motor will stand up to that?
@@YarnDragon24 Yes, I'd consider that light use for this kind of machine. I'm putting in much more powerful motor than needed because I wanted to reuse the motor from the EEW 6.0 that I've designed and that needs to handle much faster speeds than this cone winder.
Right now I'm focusing on making it work well with my cones in an affordable way. I do plan to support some other cone sizes by giving away free 3d printable files. When I asked my community the majority said they wanted it to work well with my bobbins and to keep the cost affordable so those are my focuses right now.
No. I tried several versions of 3d printed drums and they just weren't smooth enough to work so I had to purchase a textile drum. I'm not sure where you can buy them since I'm using a contact I have in China to purchase them in bulk.
I'm still working on improving the design. Once I have the design finalized I'll start preorders. The best way to keep updated on the progress is to sign up for my email newsletter at www.dreamingrobots.com/
I am still working on it, and won't start selling it until I'm happy with the final design. The best way to keep updated on my progress is to sign up for my monthly newsletter (sign up at the bottom of www.dreamingrobots.com). Or if you keep an eye on my youtube channel I will have update videos here too.
Looking forward to continued updates. Please include me when you are looking for Kickstarters.
I can't wait for these to be available. I've been trying to find a good cone winder for years and almost bought an industrial one, LOL. I've been following your development of this closely and I'm so glad to hear its coming along nicely.
That's AWESOME!! I would love one when they are ready!!!
Looks like it’s coming along great! Can’t wait to get my hands on this and the yardage counter!
This looks fabulous! I’m impressed with the thoughtful improvements made with each update! I’m looking forward to getting my hands on one!
This is looking good. I definitely will be going from a swift to a cone.. I'd like to know how the new yardage counter could be used to measure the yardage as the cone is wound.
Thanks for the request. I will try to do a video about using the yarn counter with this cone winder soon. Oddly enough I sent all my yarn counters out to beta testers so I don't have one right now, but I will get one soon and will try this test then. While the code to handle this is there, I haven't tested it and I might end up having to adjust things some when I do test it.
@@DreamingRobotsBlog sir I want to buy it.pls relpy.
@@sovonchowdhury4929 Sovon, it is still in development. I don't yet have an estimate on when I will finalize the design and start selling it.
I can't wait to order this when it's ready!
This will be amazing for working with my CSM as I need something that winds with more even tension then my regular cake winder.
I really admire the work and thought you put into these. My EEW is a delight and I can't wait for this to come out!
Wow, it looks really awesome and be a very welcome addition as a work tool that most will want. 😁👍
Sign me up! Take my money! What a great addition to EEW family
I have a few 5 pound yarn cones I need to bust down into smaller baby cones so I need this! Rooting for you in this process!
Fantastic! Would love to have one for my weaving yarn!
Looks great!
Is this a Kickstarter? I have been looking for something like this for awhile.
I will eventually make it a Kickstarter, but I don't do Kickstarters until I have the design finalized and have started to prepare the design for manufacturing. Waiting greatly increases my odds of finishing the kickstarter on schedule. I don't really have a timeframe for the Kickstarter yet, but it will be awhile since I expect several more improvements before it's ready to be released.
@@DreamingRobotsBlog you already have a lot of interest in a kickstarter, can't wait for this and the yarn counter. Are you likely to do both at the same time?
@@AmandaLawrence_poisondwarf66 The kickstarter for the yarn counter and cone winder will be at different times. It would be too much work at the same time if I did them simultaneously. I want to be able to give each one my full attention and make sure both are the best they can be. I just don't feel I could do that if I did both at the same time.
Where can I buy this awesome piece of machinery?)
The Cone Winder is not yet ready. I'm still working on the design. Once the design is finalized I will have a Kickstarter for it, but that will take awhile. It is a new type of product for me and I've been getting a lot of great feedback from lots of people and I'm taking the time to make sure I get the cone winder very good. The best way to keep updated on this is my monthly newsletter which you can sign up for at the bottom of www.dreamingrobots.com.
I would love to be a Beta tester, how do I sign up please?
Eagerly waiting
when do you anticipate this being available?
Will there be a weaving bobbin adapter? I do not use cones, but this would be a great option for weaving bobbins.
There will be some adapters, but for weaving bobbins to work they would need to be just a tube. The types of tubes with ridges on the edges wouldn't work with the drum roller. The drum needs to rest on the yarn as it's being wound onto the cone or bobbin. If it has ridges then the drum will rest on those and spin the bobbin at the wrong speed.
Have you considered making a hand crank one similar to how many cake winders are and winders?
I have considered this, but making it motorized is something I have a lot of experience with so I decided to do that version. The hand crank version would require a lot of separate design and testing so it doesn't make sense to do both versions in the future. Based on how this motorized version does and the feedback I get then I might do a crank version someday, but I am not making an promises.
Ah. This would be lovely for machine knitting with handspun yarns!
This is great! I want to be a beta tester and or kickstarter!
Very interested. What is your time frame. Will you sell it a a finished item or to be assembled.
I don't have a timeframe yet since I'm still improving the prototype. When it's ready it will be be sold as an assembled product.
I'm curious, how many yards of yarn went on the cone? Thanks.
Can you make it to hold up to 10 oz of yarn??? That would be glorious!!! Love the updates on this can you make that yarn guide more sturdier with metal with where it clips and with the wing nut??? I would sooo break that yarn guide and it wouldn't be strong enough for me LOL! I am super hard on that part on my winder
I'm not likely to change its size again, but we will see once a beta tester gets it how much yarn they fit on it. I don't really want to give a final number without others testing it.
I'm working on a new guide. I did actually try just using wing nuts, but I wasn't happy with that so I'm using a more complex clamping system, but I expect it to completely solve the issues. The only downside is you will need a screwdriver to take it on/off with this system.
@@DreamingRobotsBlog sounds great, how much yarn does it hold on it now?
Even before beta. I think an improvement would be a more ridged arm. The amount of bouncing around it does may effect how even finer yarns and silks get loaded onto a cone because the bouncing will effect the tension of the yarn.
The injection molded arm will be a little stiffer, but going beyond that would significant expense since it would either require a metal arm or adding some custom stiffeners. In my personal testing I haven't seen the stiffness of the arm affecting tension and am not exactly sure from your explanation how it would. The only thing that arm does is push the cone down on the drum so the cone rotates at the same speed as the drum.
Sorry, my bad with my terms. I was referring to the part that sticks out and guides the yarn. With the way it bounces up and down, it will have the effect of changing the tension from high to low rapidly.
While it likely won't effect thicker yarns, it will possibly cause twists/tangles with thinner ones.
Think of 3d printer filament when you loosen the filament on the spool, it will sometimes slip under part of the spool further down the filament and cause snags while printing.
@@Falney Thanks for the clarification. I call that the yarn guide. I have been working on ways to adhere that better and look for improvements in future prototypes there.
@@DreamingRobotsBlog you could print an upside V that runs flush with the table/desk with a hole in it to put a post in on the end. It is simple geometry that will be easy to injection mold or 3d print and will provide ridgedness on 2 axis.
@@Falney The next version does this with a stamped metal u clamp, but it doesn't fit very well so I might need to go with an injection molded version like you proposed. The reason I'd try to avoid the injection molded version is because making each different mold is expensive, but you are right that this would solve it.
Would it be possible to have it do half width balls of wool, therefore the rotation guide perhaps be replaced with half the size? Therefore the machine do both cones and balls which I think are also called cakes
That is possible, but it would require a different drum and some different parts (probably 3d printed). To me it seems way simpler to just use the full sized cones and just put however much yarn you want on them. The benefit of the half sized cones to me would be designing a machine around these smaller cones which would reduce the size and price of such a machine. I asked about this earlier and most people wanted the full size cones so that is the version I am designing.
This looks awesome. I was wondering if you have thought about some sort of break away if the yarn knots? And then have you tried using it for standard skein yarn without the swift?
I'm pretty sure if you used a skein of yarn without a swift it would get tangled. If you went at slower speeds and held the skein in your hand it should work, but I have not tried this.
I have a plan to monitor the motor rotations and stop spinning if I see things get stuck from a tangle. But I haven't implemented this in the software yet. It won't stop if you are spinning really fine yarn and it snaps, but if you are normal or thick yarn that is strong enough that it causes a jam then the motor would stop spinning.
I’m a Japanese knitting machine TH-camr. Your cone winder is great❣️ Can I buy it?
Not yet. I'm continuing to work on the prototypes. I will announce more information to this TH-cam channel when I have it, or you can subscribe to my newsletter here: www.dreamingrobots.com/
Thanks. I’m looking forward to get it❣️
How did I miss this on Kickstarter !!!
You didn't miss the Kickstarter. I am still working on prototypes and will announce a Kickstarter for this when I have a final design ready to make.
Seriously can’t wait. I know everyone will hate me for saying it but I’d pay $3-400 for a quality cone winder
Thanks for the honest feedback. I really appreciate seeing this. But don't worry about this raising my prices. I price my products based on how much they cost me to make with a margin to make a fair profit factoring in how many I expect to sell. I like keeping the prices low so more people can buy them. As long am I'm making a good living for my family, I'd much rather see more people using my inventions than trying to maximize profits.
Sounds good! I think a lot of us in the machine knitting world would be really interested in this. I’m a production knitter and it’s likely I’d be doing 10-20 100 gram cones a week, often 3-5 in a sitting. Think the motor will stand up to that?
@@YarnDragon24 Yes, I'd consider that light use for this kind of machine. I'm putting in much more powerful motor than needed because I wanted to reuse the motor from the EEW 6.0 that I've designed and that needs to handle much faster speeds than this cone winder.
Same here. My wife (who's a weaver/knitter) showed me this video and if it's for sale, even in this range of price, she'll buy it.
This is so cool!! Do you have any idea of a ballpark price? Do you think it might be able to be less than this $3-400 range?
When available??
Awesome!
Woo nice 👍🏻
When will the parts be available for printing or purchase?
I don't have a timeframe yet, but I am working on it. I hope to have another update in the next few months we an updated prototype.
Will this use only proprietary cones or will some weaving cones fit?
Right now I'm focusing on making it work well with my cones in an affordable way. I do plan to support some other cone sizes by giving away free 3d printable files. When I asked my community the majority said they wanted it to work well with my bobbins and to keep the cost affordable so those are my focuses right now.
Love
When can this wonder be purchased?
I don't have an exact date yet since I'm still working on improving the prototype.
Wow - wo bekommt man die leeren Konen ?
I will be selling the cones at an affordable price. I will also release free files so others can 3d print cones if you have access to a 3d printer.
did you printed the winder drum to ?
No. I tried several versions of 3d printed drums and they just weren't smooth enough to work so I had to purchase a textile drum. I'm not sure where you can buy them since I'm using a contact I have in China to purchase them in bulk.
Are these available yet?
No. The best way to get updated is to sign up for my monthly email newsletter at the bottom of www.dreamingrobots.com
I would like to be considered as a beta tester, when you get to that stage, assuming you need more.
How to purchase parts....
I'm still working on improving the design. Once I have the design finalized I'll start preorders. The best way to keep updated on the progress is to sign up for my email newsletter at www.dreamingrobots.com/
Nevermind - saw this!
Dove posso comprare uno così?
how can i order this
I am still working on it, and won't start selling it until I'm happy with the final design. The best way to keep updated on my progress is to sign up for my monthly newsletter (sign up at the bottom of www.dreamingrobots.com). Or if you keep an eye on my youtube channel I will have update videos here too.
i want this Immediately i love your product so i want to buy
can you sell
Price
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Hello
I want but this
If you need a beta volunteer, I will pay you for the privilege!