Fastest Charging Ever! Megawatt Charging Deep Dive w/ Atlis Energy Solutions
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0:00 - Hello & Welcome
1:17 - Equipment Tour / Facility
7:01 - Victor Atlasman - The Genus - Intro
9:30 - Atlas Advanced Connector Design
15:25 - Charging Faster Than Ever Before
24:48 - Equipment Under Load
28:24 - Charging Equipment Integrated w/ Vehicles
32:57 - Connector Thermals Under Load
34:28 - Future Public Atlis Chargers
37:14 - 1,400 Gallons Of Water To A Boil
38:33 - Megawatt Charging Is Awesome
40:00 - Tesla Model S Charging On Atlis Advanced Charger
45:02 - Inside The Charger
52:03 - Chatting With Founder, Mark Hanchett
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What an experience! As I told you, I’m on the quest for the fastest, coolest, and most innovative charging solutions. Today’s visit to Atlis was truly insane and I really appreciate how open they were with you and me about their progress and technology. Hope you enjoy this deep dive, this is what I live for!
Exro technologies is working on AC Fast Charging capabilities with their inverter/coil switching technology (Coil Driver). I’m still waiting to hear more on that front from them… just 17 miles from Atlis Motors 🧐
Fast charging a Caterpillar 793 mining truck would be epic. I wonder what kind of charging port it has?
How can I put this? In the real world there is a +1MW charging solution and yes, it was filmed for TH-cam. It's certainly not as complex or elegant as this, but it exists. Gavin from the @EcotricityNZ channel filmed it a few months ago th-cam.com/video/Rj305HdU46c/w-d-xo.html
@@Dqtube thats technically more power but it uses multiple CCS connections. this example is special because they're pumping all that juice through one connection
This was awesome to see. Thank you @KyleConner for sharing this.
Please include a flashlight integrated into the connector, and also chamfer the edges to make it locate into the socket more easily than ccs does
One of the best videos Out of Spec has done. So much great information in this video. Definitely want to see the follow up to this video.
Yeah, I want more factory/lab tours, all types.
Victor is the perfect employee. He loves his job and is enthusiastic.
When I first saw the length of this video, I thought to myself I'll just skip through. 1 hour later I've watched it all not skipping a single minute. Great content. Thanks for the Out of Spec team, and for Atlis that gave us this opportunity!
Kyle, wow , my background as a Electronics Technician also certified Litton Industrial Microwave Technician, truly awesome to see this bleeding edge of high power DC charging, what can I say I am speechless!
People like you are gonna really keep the EV companies in line! Great work! Stay on it!!!!!
Here comes quality information w/great camera work
Handle is good for the connector, especially if there's substantial insertion force. Less chance of wrist fatigue or injury from putting force on the joints at a strange angle. It would also be easier to grip if you can wrap your fingers around it, especially with smaller hands.
As for the stations themselves, I like the demo unit setup that keeps the cable off the ground. Probably something like a tall pole with a swing arm so the cable isn't dragging or getting run over.
This is one of the most exciting things I have seen on TH-cam :p Atlas rocks!!!
I agree with adding the handle. The grip is smaller so when you're charging in the snow or the cold and have gloves on it's a bit harder to grip the charger.
Kyle, thank you so much for this. I have one word: WOW!
#HandleGang!
Kyle, you're becoming a pioneeer in the world of EVs! Thank you for your efforts! Have you ever thought of lobbying in DC? You may be able to help us change these archaic laws which favor fossil fuels!
Love that you did this video. I’ve beloved in what ATLIS is doing for a couple years now. I’ve invested in them early on and as much as I love their video I have not seen anything nearly as in depth as your video. Nice work, keep it coming. Thank you
I wish them luck. But I’m confused because they seem like very smart people familiar with their field but even as a layperson outsider I can see that charIN is finalizing the MCS standard and there is no chance that a proprietary charger from a small company will ever have a chance. Continuing work on their own connector seems like wasted resources and engineering time that could be better directed at their other projects.
This was so much fun to watch and I can't wait to see more stuff from Atlis!
So a typical Nuclear Reactor output is 1500MWe, which means it can only power 1500 charges like this... then you need to deliver this power over the grid.. I just do not see this happening in the next 50 years or so..
Micro-nuclear reactor on site!!! Forget battery storage!
Decades ago we were filming a commercial in Mexico City, at their large studio. We needed to warm up a prop Jacuzzi, quickly. So the studio electricians took a 2X4, nail on either end, wrapped with bare wire, and plugged it into the Mains at the wall panel. Dropped it into the spa, and told everyone to Step Back. They threw the large, old fashion “Frankenstein” switch, and the water instantly started to boil! It only took a few seconds for it to get to a comfortable temperature for our models. :-)
Absolutely loved this video! Super interesting to get a behind the scenes look, would love to see more videos like this!
Thank you for this look behind the curtain
Awesome video highlight of Atlis. Love the excitement
This is one of the coolest videos I have recently seen. Very exciting!
I’ve been watching atlis and the dev of their truck for a while, I wish them nothing but the best of luck with their endeavours. Amazing stuff.
This was impressive guys. Good work
Long one, but really informative! Great job!
I have to admit that this is over my head, but I am glad to which videos like this one. That is how I will learn about how this all works. Kyle I love your enthusiasm.
Don’t worry once you have time it’s not that complicated. Just becomes super cool!
This is awesome!! Atlis really came a long way.
Very cool stuff! The part with Mark at the end was also really interesting.
Glad I bought megawatts of AMV stock years ago! (before they fully went public)
In 2001 I was involved with load testing 6 huge marine generators the same way - 6MWish……….. generators were connected up to 6 x 40ft half height shipping containers full of water. All tested fine, miles of huge cables disconnected and removed (no body was allowed into the main machinery space during the test btw) BUT after the half height containers had been drained and lifted off the hatch c overs for the ship we found that there were 6 x 40ft areas of bare steel under the test units…….. basically we had dissolved all the protective galvanising off 3 massive 30t steel hatch covers! We also had to have the ship’s magnetic compass re-swung and adjusted because the ship’s magnetism had changed drastically during the load testing!
What a very interesting video a glimpse into the future
I like the handle!
very promising ... the future looks bright!
Scoreboard is a good idea, but it’d be nice to have remaining charge time displayed so if charger is full you can get in line behind the vehicle that’ll be done first. Not quite sure if it should display time to resume trip like a Tesla or time to set limit should be displayed, maybe both but that’s a lot of information for a quick reference board.
Good luck guys.
Possibly the coolest(nerdiest) video i've seen, as far as charging, thx Kyle. the future is so bright, i need shades 😎
34:12 props to Alyssa for filming this whole thing by hand on a phone!
Anna not Alyssa.
True trooper champ
This is amazing.
This was truly amazing to see. Can’t wait to see real world applications implemented plus there should be automotive manufacturers prototype vehicles testing in there facilities already.
Very interesting video! Did get slight QVC vibes 😂
1.21 JigaWatts! 1.21 JigaWatts!
Not sure I agree with the car and charger communicating wirelessly but this is impressive. I love how small the connector.
This is super cool and might have an application in semis and heavy equipment, but as far as a normal auto sized battery, it seems useless. We can't even put 150kw into them for very long without cooking the current batteries.
Very interesting technology.
Great! Now bring all of that stuff up here in Quebec during a cold winter night and make it work at the same speeds please!
Definitely go with the handle.
This is crazy interesting. I volunteer on my City Electric Utility advisory board and we fluctuate from 40Mw base load to about 100Mw peak. That’s about 50,000 population plus business.
This was a great video, I loved seeing the early development and could see the excitement. I would like to see wired communication for reliability vs wireless communication in a charging setup for a vehicle. Maybe Atlus can help improve the cable situation on current chargers. The drop in place would be great for disaster areas, roll the cabinet up with batteries, solar and generators to help in emergencies in the future. I wonder what Weights and Measures in states with say about no screen? That's a problem in the EU for their regulatory body.
Atlis Energy Solutions is the real deal!
Those wheels look great on Model Plaid 😍
As an original investor, I appreciate how you guys have been transparent on this journey and listened to the people.
I vote that you need that handle. You should leave enough area to grip the body with your other hand if need be. I also think that you need to make sure that there is a fix point or hanging point. It might be beneficial to have an overhead retractable cable to both support the weight of a cord and to help keep it off of the ground or swung out of the way.
I think the dispensers should be something similar to Kempower stations. skinny pedestal with a place for the handle and card reader with the cable going up high and extending out on a movable pole or spring so you can get front charge port and back charge ports.
ur black model is looks amazing
Proud atlis investor here 🙋♂️. Make sure to invest!
I'm struck by the scale of all that's needed to power and cool this kind of system. Right now it seems like an almost comical amount of power needed. To run one of these in the real world you would probably need your own substation for each unit, which seems like a large barrier to mass adoption. Still, this gives a sense of where EV chargers and cars are going. It's likely all these problems will be solved eventually and the grid will scale to allow locations for megawatt charging in the near future. Imagine the ev market share when the cars can charge as fast or faster than a gas/diesel truck can refill.
The demand charges of megawatt charging will never make megawatt charging a profitable endeavor.
Most utilities have a $5-$15 per kW demand charge. It could cost up to $5,000 - $15,000 a month just in demand charges. Say you only have 60 vehicles get a full charge of 60 kWh at a max of 1mW. You’d had to charge $2.77 per kWh just to cover the demand charges. Compared to gas, that would be like driving a 4 mile per gallon car cost wise.
@@Jhawk376 the concept of demand pricing will eventually phase out.
@@Jhawk376 Thats a solid point for the near future I hadn't considered. I sometimes wonder if a better solution is grid charging batteries that themselves can send energy faster to cars that come in to charge. In theory you won't have peak charger 24/7 so there is time at night or off hours to charge onsite storage that ca be used when demand is needed. I think I saw this in another one of his videos too.
main users will probably be semi trucks. maybe a few other vehicles that can handle it will be able to stop by or something.
@@JoeSimonsen I think Kyle showcased this already. for places that are a bit more removed they keep some batteries charged to allow for higher rates without needing infrastructure.
It’s really a vehicle limit and with that the cooling on the batteries that’s throttling today. On my truck the time I can actually take 200kw plus in my charge curve is pretty short.
Where's the truck 🤣
It's below zero at my home. Been there for 24 hours. It NEEDS to work below zero for two weeks straight. That happens once a year in North Dakota.
will the cyber truck be available with MW charging?or tesla semi . Is this DC to DC charging
Dam fantastic video. Wish u would have showed the teslas state of charge at the end
Proceeds to poke the screwdriver into the service panel... jaw dropped! Still, this is great that they are pushing the limits of these charging systems. 👍
100% with a handle!
Very cool! But diesel generators required for these chargers? Not very green no?
Doc Brown "Hold my beer" 😁
I love the confidence in their equipment to just keep pushing it. Obviously, I’m sure they’ve been doing private testing and were confident it would perform but the confidence is contagious.
I would like to know how Atlis will test their EV charger in various temperature ranges to prevent the issues associated with EA's massif charger fail during the CO cold a few weeks ago!
I'm wondering if idle stations would be in danger of having the water cooling freeze if it gets cold enough.
Handle hands down
Definitely need a handle, right now I quite often have a phone in my hand while initiating the session and a handle would make it much easier to plug in with one hand. I envision a gas station like concept so a vehicle can pull in either the left or right or front or wherever it’s charge port is. Make a few stations that are longer like RV/Semi pumps for pull thru with trailers. Have a board that shows status of all the stations so you can see when pulling in what’s online, what’s in use, and be able to pick what fits your need. Red light green light status with a phone app, as Kyle said one kiosk for those who need to swipe a card and don’t have a phone app. Semi fuel stations do something similar with cardlocks.
Excited to charge lol
“Drop in solution “ sounds like hope for a future defense contract.
100%%%
Handle is so much better ergonomically.
I’d like to see you cover how utility demand charges will effect if megawatt charging will ever be a thing.
30:40 I'd like to see the future of charging to be wireless embedded in the streets and parking lots.
is it possible to liquid cool both the atlis and the ccs charger?
14:59 , 22:02 - "1.21 GIGAWATTS...!!! GREAT SCOTT...!!!" (best Doc Brown reaction)
Tesla has the mega charger for their semis but I wonder if any damage will occur for that charger or will it speed up battery degradation
Handle on the connector, but the handle supports on the prototype look like they'll easily be broken. The disregard people have for the charge handles in the real world is nuts and these things need to be extremely durable.
Ideally, the breaker boxes and dispenser should be inset into the sides so the overall dimensions are just those of the container. Hopefully the current setup is just a prototype layout.
So glad I purchased their stock and placed a reservation on their truck!
I think a totally under the radar Co.. I'm buying their stock
Hot damn, i'm buying some Atlis stock.
Canada does charge by time and not by power too. It's so frustrating. Measures Canada has apparently made rules changes to allow for per KW but no chargers work that way yet.
The white charger with an external handle is definitely the better choice for the connector. Not everyone has large hands that can handle a large diameter connector. It could also slip in rain and snow. The one with the external handle is absolutely much easier to handle in all situations. Just make it of rigid and unbreakable materials. It would be best, if you include some metallic stripe in it, so that if it weakens in hot climates, and the plastics break, the handle doesn't, and it can still be used until it is exchanged.
Handle all the way.
Looks like that Dashboard is built with Grafana which is neat.
While I watch the video, my first thought is the idea to eventually make this atlis charger an open standard and just pave the way or would everyone who wants to implement this charger have to go through atlis?
Great question! The idea is to create the new standard of charging and charging infrastructure. For more details, check out Victor's video on our channel, here: th-cam.com/channels/xhqxplXfB5jcWbdYIgWXBA.html
I watched your review on the Nissan Leaf that you got for yourself. I got one myself mainly because I could not afford any other bev. Lol
Crazy to think this is happening 2 miles from my friends house and within walking distance of an Arby's lol
With wireless communication, in theory the vehicle can start to handshake with the charger BEFORE the plug is inserted into the vehicle. But I would very much worry about environmental RF interference from nearby radio sources causing problems with the charging communications.
It's NFC has to touch
Although this is a crazy awesome proof of concept, it seems to me anyway, that it would be easier/simpler to evolve the battery tech to charge faster than to have the infrastructure in place to support a massive rollout of something like this.
This is great stuff Kyle!
Can I borrow this machine to Sous Vide some steaks? Im having a party!
Definitely handle @ 10:20. For something that big, I’d say put one on top too and have two handles.
I like the score board idea maybe under a canopy.
I like the idea of replicating the Germany places with you get the trickle and a central kiosk.
I don't like the cloud reliance at all what so ever.
Grafana dashboard showing the power stats?
High point inertial reel, like semi refuel point of sale pumps, so can work with any shaped vehicle towing very weirsd ft
I have seen a max of 448 KW output from the battery when drag racing my Tesla Model 3 Performance. I imagine the Plaid will show 750 KW or more for maximum output. Have you ever tracked your output with the Plaid when under full acceleration?
Now, we need a power grid from the public utilities to reliably power these mega chargers, and some BIG Palos Verde size nuclear-power generation stations for enough juice. ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
Safety first. Where is the discussion/warning of the serious dangers involved?
Why not a protocol in the cars to approve payment through the car's internal screen?
I like that they're so confident in their tech that they're willing to show it off outside of sanitary, big network conditions. This could still be faked but I'm not getting that impression here. Hopefully Atlis and others like it succeed!
seems like time for a three-way collab between you, Atlas, and Pepsi, will need an MCS2 connector unless Tesla has started shipping them with NACS recently