Ace is so consistent with his videos. Easy to understand graphics and charts, very polished, high quality. JGod is great, love the guy, but I do feel like I get more precise detail with a much clearer understanding with Ace’s videos. Get this man to 1 Million Subs!!
Forreal. I think ace was the goat with the info stuff then JGOD came outta nowhere and took over somehow? No hate on JGOD cuz he’s still very good, but it would be nice to see Ace get more love that he deserves.
@@arturoperez3826 I think JGod got the boost he did because of the Cold War integration being such a mess. JGod did so many videos on what the attachments did when they were broken that I think that is what propelled him to the spot he is in now. The mess that was the Cold War integration from November 2020 to March 2021 was the best thing to happen to JGod. I am huge fans of both Ace & JGod, and TGD. Driftor has fallen off a bit with the quality of his WZ content, but the other 3 are keeping the WZ community informed. 👍🏻
@@Lowlevelowl23 very much agree with eveything you have said. that integration really did help him because he was on top of the information that was wrong so it definitely gave him that boost.
Jgod definitely puts out way more content and he does it faster and he keeps up with the updates better. Tbh he’s a much more useful tester. The last jgod video had like 4 of these one off ace videos in it in terms of information
They need to drop the SCAR by one more shot to kill, reduce its recoil, and keep its ammo as is. That way it'll be a little bit better than the C58, but with less ammo to balance it. The 7.62x51 ARs should be the hardest hitting ARs that are high damage and slower firing.
One less shot would make the SCARs ttk completely ridiculous. After the buff it got it has the old amax damage but with slightly slower fire rate. One less shot would shave another 105ms from the ttk and totally make it broken. Recoil is controllable, it goes basically straight up...
I was always a cod player, but when Battlefield 5 was free on ps4 I decided to play it and had a lot of fun, but many people say that b5 is the worst one
@@alexstachura11 no, the C58 is amazing and I'm already level 35 on the gun even though i need 23 more tiers to unlock it in the battle pass. Obviously you'll get thrashed in CQB by the M82 but this C58 excels in mid to long range even when enemies are trying to kill me. Head to head. Counter sniping is really fun and this shit hits like a truck if you're landing those shots like Ace said. More power to those who'll stay loyal to this gun !
I love the C58. For whatever reason it just feels great to use for me. Don't even have it unlocked yet, but I slay with the ground loot versions. The headshot damage seems to be a great boon. I think the slower fire rate makes it easier to control recoil as well.
This gun feels nice to use even off of ground loot. Tbh, the ground loot weapons are actually decent enough that I just get ghost class off drop and keep my ground loot weapon. I really like this change.
This is exactly what im talkin bout. Ground loot MG82 or C58 and you can grab ghost right off the rip. Very viable way to play. The last two times I did that one game was a dub and the second was 7th place with 9 kills in trios with both my team mates having been dead since second circle. Kudos man
Good addiction to the game, I just wish they nerfed a bit CW barrels cause right it feels like FARA will be the absolute long range king when the new lmg gets nerfed, it is just waaaay to easy to use
They changed the barrels to match the modern warfare barrels. Now I can use my RPD and M60 without worrying about the recoil cons. The M60 definitely needed the barrel update. But they really should buff its fire rate a bit. It’s IRL counterpart fires a bit faster than its game counter part
It feels good and could even be an iron sight sniper support gun. Even though it shoots slow it feels very easy to control. I look forward to going back to sniping when the LMG gets nerfed.
This is my favorite rifle in real life -- I own the semi auto version. So glad to see it in the game. I'll be using it hard even if it gets nerfed into the ground!
I'm enjoying the c58 for long range, but then i tried out a long range fara build with the new barrels :( and now nothing feels close that thing is a laser.
I just think the 55rnd mag is overkill for the downsides. 45rnd is more than enough in basically all situations, so I'd rather keep my gun on the faster side of things. Then you can use the Agency or Field Agent grip and still have the gun handle quickly, thus not needing to slow down your StF times by using the Airborne Wrap. I think going max recoil reduction is the best way to use it, since it does so extremely well at range. Those hard hitting bullets really do a lot more damage than others at those 100m+ ranges where you're not gonna be hitting every bullet anyways, so it helps to do more damage per bullet.
I've been using this gun since the second I unlocked it and have had a lot of 10+ kill games with it.. seeing this, I honestly am surprised by the damage values lol, I thought it did a lot more damage. I've been winning guns fights up close with no problem too
Quick weapons list for people who are looking for solid back pocket weapons. SMGs: mw aug, fennec, 74u, cw mp5, milano ARs: c58/ak47/scar, krig/fara/qbz If you set the last 3 up identically they're almost indistinguishable from one another besides visual differences.
Been using it for a few days and I really like it. FARA is obviously king right now but this feels really satisfying to use to me so... I am. One thing that I've noticed with it is that I can rip dudes parachuting in out of the air reeeeeeeally easy with this thing for some reason.
I see you covered the Warzone stats of the gun but what about Cold War Multiplayer? I may have missed it but the 55 drum is 60 in CW. It also looses damage according to the statistic description. Maybe cover in a minor update video. I'm sure it will change all ttk's if it's really accurate or not on the damage fall off.
This gun really test's your accuracy, the gun is superb if you hit all your shots but because of the slow fire rate the gun isn't forgiving when you miss your shots.
Hi Ace, great guide. Definitely gonna try this. I was wondering about the ranger barrel, does that have less of an ads penalty? I was thinking ranger, foregrip and agency
I think in his MG82 video he said the difference in ADS for those barrels is just about one frame at 60FPS, don't know if it's the same for ARs but it sounds like there's no good enough reason to not take the Task Force over the Ranger
Just so y’all know, this isn’t a G3. It’s a CETME which is the grandfather of the G3. G3’s we’re designed in Germany by HK and modeled after this Spanish battle rifle
Good video. I don't think the 55mag is worth the hit to ADS speed. I'd of switched to the 45mag before switching suppressors. There's more than enough of time and damage in the 45mag and it doesn't affect ADS speed.
Took the “rare” drop variant ground loot and immediately pumped out 8 kills before the first free loadout. I was so impressed I just went straight to ghost class and FRIED with it in Trios. I was super impressed with how little recoil it had considering the punch it seemed to be packing. Alas, here I am having a more in depth look at it. Thinking this may be the replacement for the Amax/Ram for me and pair it with either the Mac or LC10
As a SCAR main, after getting the task force barrel (night and day difference) it's tempting to use this instead, mostly due to the lack of downsides to running attachments... imo what hurts the Scar is how severe the negatives are to the barrel, suppressor, and magazine on top of terrible base mobility stats, making a good gun so hard to run with stacked attachments, meanwhile as you said: all you need is the Task force to make it viabke
If the Scars damage, range, and recoil was slightly better, on top of increasing its base mobility and such, it would fit into the meta as a more accurate DMR
I love this gun. It dump trucks people in close range if you get the jump on your enemy. (Which isn't hard to do because this gun is surprisingly snappy.)
When first seeing this gun, I thought, it was the Full auto G3 from COD 4 campaign. On using it in HC Team, I found it cumbersome, slow and although the recoil isn't bad at all, the retical bounces horribly when ADS shooting giving the visual impression that the recoil is bad.
It’s too early for me to pass judgement with the weapon, but I can’t help that it feels a little more inconsistent for me than the AK. The fire rate is in that not-so-sweet spot that you can really get punished when you miss one of them.
I enjoy the feeling of hard hitting, low fire rate guns. Still wish the scar had a little more ass for the amount of recoil and it's sluggishness being on par with the lmgs. The c58 class I like most is the 1st mag, last barrel, last rear grip, agency suppressor and agency grip. The foregrip is arguable but with other guns being absolute lasers now I find it harder to compete at range without it. The ads is fine for most situations this way but it isn't ideal inside 30 meters. But with so many guns feeling good right now, I can't suggest it over any other gun.
I absolutely love this gun, it feels so good using it, I think putting the 45 round mag on it makes it feel faster and should be used unless maybe playing quads.
I played plunder all morning with a SMG build of this gun, no barrel or underbarrell, just add the microflex sight. The iron sights are a bit wonky. This gun shreds at all rangers. You just may lose those up close and personal to the Meta SMG but that's it.. great sniper support
Good video. Think its one of the few guns thats suitable with the 4x cold war optic (forgotten its name). The slower fire rate and lower recoil really suits that scope
I think it’s well balanced, you can’t get a crazy ttk, but very accurate at range and very easy to use. I could see them nerfing the head multiplier a touch but other than that this is relatively a “perfect” gun
I main the C58 when i can, but the slow fire rate allows it to be extremely stable. But i get a lot of kills with it. I tend to pair it with a ZRG 20mm and im rolling in kills
I didn't even know if this was a CW or MW weapon, so now I know. As for your question, it's gonna be a different video. This is titled Warzone, stats within.
IMO the MW AK is meta. Virtually same ttk as the amax everywhere now (and even before this nerf, it was everywhere but the chest already) and the 75rd drum with Romanian is the best "LMG" in the have in my opinion. Just vertical recoil
@@pkopalek It's very good, not OP nor weak. Just not for everyone. I've used it in MW mp and since release of warzone. So, I really have no problem lasering people with it.
@@guidogonzalez3721 100% agreed. I think it competes with the meta guns easily if you practice with it and it's definitely not "trash" like so many people dismiss the gun.
this argument of slow firing guns being so unforgiving is weird to me. if you have a fast firing gun you'll just miss more shots. unless we're talking really low rof it's a non-issue. if anything slow rof is better for much improved ammo consumption.
Why would you miss more shots with a high rof gun? Recoil matters more for missing shots that rof. If you miss a shot with a slow rof gun, it will increase your ttk a lot more than with a high rof gun. So generally you will feel a more consistent ttk with high rof weapon. This is why they are considered more forgiving
@@hobojoe9717 say we compare the new ar and lmg. say we go off target, in the time the ar fires one bullets, ergo missing one bullet, the lmg will fire several bullets off target. you loose ttk just the same. You could compare time off target with firing interval to find out if it really matters or not, but the practical approach is probably to just add the time off target to the ttk, in which case it doesn't really matter wether it's high or low rof. And even if you where right...you issue is your aim, not the gun. instead of crutching on high rof guns you should strife to be on target. So there is essentially no difference there, which just makes low rof more appealing due to better ammo conservation. M16 with 60rnd's was good for a ton of kills, no reload or resupply required. meanwhile the MG82 and FINN run out extremly fast, heck even the Stoner eats ammo like crazy.
Why couldn't they make the MG82 like this too? Strong with accuracy but not overpowered? On top of that, the best Amax build has a 407ms ADS time, so the Agency Suppressor on the C58 should always be everyone's choice.
If C58 is good enough in Cold War MP too....... While it's 7.62mm NATO gun it is same damage, far less range and double recoil than AK. BOCW guns never made a single sense.
They don't care about these guns in MP anymore, its all WZ where it matters (ya know, BP money)... The CW ARs are absolute trash (in MP) apart from AK and Fara.... There is no reason to use an AR when you can beam the maps with the SMG handling LMGs esp the M82 now....
@@lMegumemesl I wanted the stats. But thanks for the class set up. Wouldn't you use the airborne elastic wrap for max ads. You can compensate for the sprint out time with a stock
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This is what the SCAR should have always been
trueee
The scar has one of fastest ttks after season 4 update
@@MazevG really? I guess its balanced due to low ammo and slow fire rate
@@kahzzyy1858 still should have 45 in the magazine*** option
They should have let you make a HAMR out of it
Ace is so consistent with his videos. Easy to understand graphics and charts, very polished, high quality. JGod is great, love the guy, but I do feel like I get more precise detail with a much clearer understanding with Ace’s videos. Get this man to 1 Million Subs!!
Forreal. I think ace was the goat with the info stuff then JGOD came outta nowhere and took over somehow? No hate on JGOD cuz he’s still very good, but it would be nice to see Ace get more love that he deserves.
I've never even seen jgod content, og drift0r was always my guy until infinite warfare at least cause he skipped that one
@@arturoperez3826 I think JGod got the boost he did because of the Cold War integration being such a mess. JGod did so many videos on what the attachments did when they were broken that I think that is what propelled him to the spot he is in now. The mess that was the Cold War integration from November 2020 to March 2021 was the best thing to happen to JGod. I am huge fans of both Ace & JGod, and TGD. Driftor has fallen off a bit with the quality of his WZ content, but the other 3 are keeping the WZ community informed. 👍🏻
@@Lowlevelowl23 very much agree with eveything you have said. that integration really did help him because he was on top of the information that was wrong so it definitely gave him that boost.
Jgod definitely puts out way more content and he does it faster and he keeps up with the updates better. Tbh he’s a much more useful tester. The last jgod video had like 4 of these one off ace videos in it in terms of information
They need to drop the SCAR by one more shot to kill, reduce its recoil, and keep its ammo as is. That way it'll be a little bit better than the C58, but with less ammo to balance it. The 7.62x51 ARs should be the hardest hitting ARs that are high damage and slower firing.
It's fine as is, and I main the scar
It’s just a rip off of the AK
One less shot would make the SCARs ttk completely ridiculous. After the buff it got it has the old amax damage but with slightly slower fire rate. One less shot would shave another 105ms from the ttk and totally make it broken. Recoil is controllable, it goes basically straight up...
I think a 40 round mag and slightly faster ads would be enough to make it more viable without op
Rather the 7.62×39mm since they have much more recoil than 7.62×51mm i mean at least for me the MW AK 47 is much harder to control than the Scar
While this gun isn't statistically the best, I love how you can make so many weapon conversions out of it. From the HK21 to the PSG1.
Love the G3/ CETME family aesthetically. Something just really striking about their appearance.
@@andreivaldez2929 most German guns are really nice looking guns, like aug and ump-45
@@andreivaldez2929 I've wanted the G3 in the game since launch. Hyped we finally got a version.
It's so satisfying to use this gun. Brings back the best memories of the G3A3 from Battlefield 3. This weapon is deadly in the right hands
I was always a cod player, but when Battlefield 5 was free on ps4 I decided to play it and had a lot of fun, but many people say that b5 is the worst one
Cetme rifles are very cool
@@bbyspace791 bf5 does suck
@@alexstachura11 no, the C58 is amazing and I'm already level 35 on the gun even though i need 23 more tiers to unlock it in the battle pass. Obviously you'll get thrashed in CQB by the M82 but this C58 excels in mid to long range even when enemies are trying to kill me. Head to head. Counter sniping is really fun and this shit hits like a truck if you're landing those shots like Ace said. More power to those who'll stay loyal to this gun !
@@muhammedzariff1098 the mg82 going to be nerfed anyways so
Just came back from seeing a different video about why the G8 rifle series sucks - nice to see this pop up 5 seconds after.
It's not the G3 series. It's the Spanish CETME rifle.
Where is the best class setup for the nail gun Ace... I'm still waiting for it
Nailgun with flashes. The flashes aren't for your enemies, they're for yourself.
The only attachment you need is magical propulsion for the nails
@@ammoniumammonide Or just a little bit of trolling
I was picking it up from ground loot last night and it felt like a laser.
Soon as that lmg gets nerfed everyone gonna start running to this gun and dub it the new best weapon
100%
Y’all were right
I like the changes to the standard silencer I can make a decent build with a newer gun relatively early.
I love the C58. For whatever reason it just feels great to use for me. Don't even have it unlocked yet, but I slay with the ground loot versions. The headshot damage seems to be a great boon. I think the slower fire rate makes it easier to control recoil as well.
I didn’t pickup my load out gun and just used the c58 ground loot for a win on rebirth. Dropped 10+ kills
@@reversible8740 Yeah super legit. Happy to report it still doesn't suck after the nerf though.
This gun feels nice to use even off of ground loot. Tbh, the ground loot weapons are actually decent enough that I just get ghost class off drop and keep my ground loot weapon. I really like this change.
This is exactly what im talkin bout. Ground loot MG82 or C58 and you can grab ghost right off the rip. Very viable way to play. The last two times I did that one game was a dub and the second was 7th place with 9 kills in trios with both my team mates having been dead since second circle. Kudos man
Good addiction to the game, I just wish they nerfed a bit CW barrels cause right it feels like FARA will be the absolute long range king when the new lmg gets nerfed, it is just waaaay to easy to use
That's what I have been saying!!
Same with krig on console. That’s my go to for now, may try this one when I unlock it.
Nah the stoner is even more nice now at range
@@yourlocalcarguy9524 Nah the Krig doesn’t have that good of a TTK it’s like in the state the Kilo is right now.
They changed the barrels to match the modern warfare barrels. Now I can use my RPD and M60 without worrying about the recoil cons. The M60 definitely needed the barrel update. But they really should buff its fire rate a bit. It’s IRL counterpart fires a bit faster than its game counter part
It feels good and could even be an iron sight sniper support gun. Even though it shoots slow it feels very easy to control. I look forward to going back to sniping when the LMG gets nerfed.
i didnt want to use teh lmg so i lvled it up in plunder in zombies ngl it was a great grind almost got a win with but got sniped in the back
I personally really like it. Feels very good to use mate
The only main problem to me is the ammo capacity
That's good to know
Ghost approves this gun
C58 is trash in multiplayer! Fyi
I mean the amax only holds 45 so what’s the problem
Ace over everyone else
Love you Ace... but you do still do non-Warzone vids still, right? Love your work.
If he does, I doubt they'll be for Cold War. Can't say I blame him.
He's already done all the MW vids. He hates cw, like 90% of people, so doubt he's interested in making vids about it.
He literally made a CW video like 2 days ago 🤦♂️
@@hobojoe9717 he does it under pressure from cw fans. He's made it clear he doesn't like it anymore.
@@noobheretrying4189 ok cool. I never said he liked CW, just pointing out that he obviously still covers it even though OP seems to think he doesn’t.
If you don't miss shots, it's great.
This is my favorite rifle in real life -- I own the semi auto version.
So glad to see it in the game. I'll be using it hard even if it gets nerfed into the ground!
It’d be cool if you could turn CW guns semi-automatic in WZ, then you could feel like your actually using the version you own
I don't believe this particular gun exists in real life, its something between the HK11, G3A3 and FN FAL
@@dimitrisoikonomou3568 Yes it does. It is the Cetme Model C.
@@dimitrisoikonomou3568 it looks just like the G3 to me, haven’t looked too closely.
I'm enjoying the c58 for long range, but then i tried out a long range fara build with the new barrels :( and now nothing feels close that thing is a laser.
I’ve been skating with the Krig. Got a down from 140m
I just think the 55rnd mag is overkill for the downsides. 45rnd is more than enough in basically all situations, so I'd rather keep my gun on the faster side of things. Then you can use the Agency or Field Agent grip and still have the gun handle quickly, thus not needing to slow down your StF times by using the Airborne Wrap.
I think going max recoil reduction is the best way to use it, since it does so extremely well at range. Those hard hitting bullets really do a lot more damage than others at those 100m+ ranges where you're not gonna be hitting every bullet anyways, so it helps to do more damage per bullet.
I've been using this gun since the second I unlocked it and have had a lot of 10+ kill games with it.. seeing this, I honestly am surprised by the damage values lol, I thought it did a lot more damage. I've been winning guns fights up close with no problem too
The people who disliked got beamed by the c58
Quick weapons list for people who are looking for solid back pocket weapons.
SMGs: mw aug, fennec, 74u, cw mp5, milano
ARs: c58/ak47/scar, krig/fara/qbz
If you set the last 3 up identically they're almost indistinguishable from one another besides visual differences.
4:33
And what about with the 45 round drum mag with no penalties ?
Been using it for a few days and I really like it. FARA is obviously king right now but this feels really satisfying to use to me so... I am. One thing that I've noticed with it is that I can rip dudes parachuting in out of the air reeeeeeeally easy with this thing for some reason.
C58 vs. Scar warzone comparison video?
C58+nailgun. Match made in heaven.
Is there any point in using anything but the MG82 rn? Seems like it outshines every other gun by a long shot.
I see you covered the Warzone stats of the gun but what about Cold War Multiplayer? I may have missed it but the 55 drum is 60 in CW. It also looses damage according to the statistic description. Maybe cover in a minor update video. I'm sure it will change all ttk's if it's really accurate or not on the damage fall off.
This gun really test's your accuracy, the gun is superb if you hit all your shots but because of the slow fire rate the gun isn't forgiving when you miss your shots.
I picked this up out of a loot box and it wasn't to bad definitely can't wait to unlock it
Hi Ace, great guide. Definitely gonna try this. I was wondering about the ranger barrel, does that have less of an ads penalty? I was thinking ranger, foregrip and agency
I think in his MG82 video he said the difference in ADS for those barrels is just about one frame at 60FPS, don't know if it's the same for ARs but it sounds like there's no good enough reason to not take the Task Force over the Ranger
@@fsc317 that was the match grade barrel I believe, I still run 30 FPS on my PS4 so no accurate testing for me lol
Just so y’all know, this isn’t a G3. It’s a CETME which is the grandfather of the G3. G3’s we’re designed in Germany by HK and modeled after this Spanish battle rifle
Finally someone sees it! its also named similarly
@@DJustH they’re cool rifles. Working on building one right now
Good video. I don't think the 55mag is worth the hit to ADS speed. I'd of switched to the 45mag before switching suppressors. There's more than enough of time and damage in the 45mag and it doesn't affect ADS speed.
I wish the scar would get a 40 round msg and slightly faster ads
Is it better than amax and ram 7 or not
Took the “rare” drop variant ground loot and immediately pumped out 8 kills before the first free loadout. I was so impressed I just went straight to ghost class and FRIED with it in Trios. I was super impressed with how little recoil it had considering the punch it seemed to be packing. Alas, here I am having a more in depth look at it. Thinking this may be the replacement for the Amax/Ram for me and pair it with either the Mac or LC10
does the sfod speed grip increase sprint speed now? or is it still bugged to severely hurt your sprint speed?
As a SCAR main, after getting the task force barrel (night and day difference) it's tempting to use this instead, mostly due to the lack of downsides to running attachments... imo what hurts the Scar is how severe the negatives are to the barrel, suppressor, and magazine on top of terrible base mobility stats, making a good gun so hard to run with stacked attachments, meanwhile as you said: all you need is the Task force to make it viabke
If the Scars damage, range, and recoil was slightly better, on top of increasing its base mobility and such, it would fit into the meta as a more accurate DMR
I love this gun. It dump trucks people in close range if you get the jump on your enemy. (Which isn't hard to do because this gun is surprisingly snappy.)
When first seeing this gun, I thought, it was the Full auto G3 from COD 4 campaign.
On using it in HC Team, I found it cumbersome, slow and although the recoil isn't bad at all, the retical bounces horribly when ADS shooting giving the visual impression that the recoil is bad.
So which is better to use: the 60 round drum or the 30 speed mag?
Damage: High
Recoil: Non-Existent
Accuracy: Almost as accurate as Ace's videos
Overpowered: *VERY MUCH*
It’s too early for me to pass judgement with the weapon, but I can’t help that it feels a little more inconsistent for me than the AK. The fire rate is in that not-so-sweet spot that you can really get punished when you miss one of them.
600 rpm is the sweet spot, but this gun just shits damage no matter what thats ehy I love it
does this have the ammo conversion for warzone?
I enjoy the feeling of hard hitting, low fire rate guns. Still wish the scar had a little more ass for the amount of recoil and it's sluggishness being on par with the lmgs.
The c58 class I like most is the 1st mag, last barrel, last rear grip, agency suppressor and agency grip. The foregrip is arguable but with other guns being absolute lasers now I find it harder to compete at range without it. The ads is fine for most situations this way but it isn't ideal inside 30 meters.
But with so many guns feeling good right now, I can't suggest it over any other gun.
I absolutely love this gun, it feels so good using it, I think putting the 45 round mag on it makes it feel faster and should be used unless maybe playing quads.
It feels like an ar version of the hk21
Because it's kinda is its predecessor
@@cher_yar4068 makes sense
You can pretty much make an HK21 if you put on the drum and takedown barrel. It even shares the sluggish rate of fire from BO1's zombies.
@@Jarv-sm1cz its the CETME C, predecessor to the HK G3
The slow fire rate helps put pressure for a longer time at long ranges
Would this set also work in multiplayer???
My class setup- only one change (45 rounds mag)....
I played plunder all morning with a SMG build of this gun, no barrel or underbarrell, just add the microflex sight. The iron sights are a bit wonky. This gun shreds at all rangers. You just may lose those up close and personal to the Meta SMG but that's it.. great sniper support
Are you gonna cover these new guns on just the Cold War multiplayer too?
This literally feels like the SCAR from MW
Scar except its good and has a good amount of ammo
@@lMegumemesl it has a pretty good trk after the season 4 balance
I like the C58. Overshadowed by the MG82 being so strong, but it's a solid gun. Will probably be my go to for range once I get it leveled up.
Good video. Think its one of the few guns thats suitable with the 4x cold war optic (forgotten its name). The slower fire rate and lower recoil really suits that scope
Would like 2 see a new shotgun meta video what’s the best shotty since the street sweeper nerf is it gallo or lvk
Any chance of the cold war multiplayer guide coming out soon
Is the 60 round mag good in zombies? Cause I like using alot of ammo in zombies
I think it’s well balanced, you can’t get a crazy ttk, but very accurate at range and very easy to use. I could see them nerfing the head multiplier a touch but other than that this is relatively a “perfect” gun
i hope they don’t nerf it
Why the Airborn Elastic Wrap. I thought the Serpent Wrap is the fastest for ads speed now???
Another great video, Ace. good job.
(Whistling) are you gonna do the nail gun sometime sooner or later?
81 head, 68 chest and stomach. You're welcome
Which barrel has a the best velocity?
When I unlocked this in Cold War and played a few matches I was very disappointed. Glad it's solid in Warzone.
So is this the same for cold war?
What about the movement speed? it seem to have quite high movement speed, just like all CW weapons.
at 4:13 I find it funny that treyarch calls that mag a STANAG mag! They could have at least make a quick google search.
Trying to decide if it'll replace my Amax build.
I main the C58 when i can, but the slow fire rate allows it to be extremely stable. But i get a lot of kills with it. I tend to pair it with a ZRG 20mm and im rolling in kills
I know tou mainly focus on Warzone, but could you do a BOCW gun guide for the mg82 and the c58?
So your only doing gun set ups in warzone now, I haven't seen much multiplayer content?
No point in mp whether cw or mw cus all u need to do is point n shoot
@@m4j0r3x Dumb comment
The C58 is Cold War version of the G3 from the OG MW
Is anyone having trouble with Ground War? For some reason I can only connect to matches on Verdansk River Side or Aniyah Palace.
Are we not going to talk about the stats for cold war?
I didn't even know if this was a CW or MW weapon, so now I know. As for your question, it's gonna be a different video. This is titled Warzone, stats within.
I love it so much at the moment. Even the ground loot version beams like a sniper.
I really think there should be a 50 rds drum magazine for MW SCAR-H...
Why not serpent wrap?
As someone that uses the MW ak, cuz I like high damage weapons, loving the c58.
IMO the MW AK is meta. Virtually same ttk as the amax everywhere now (and even before this nerf, it was everywhere but the chest already) and the 75rd drum with Romanian is the best "LMG" in the have in my opinion. Just vertical recoil
@@pkopalek It's very good, not OP nor weak. Just not for everyone. I've used it in MW mp and since release of warzone. So, I really have no problem lasering people with it.
@@guidogonzalez3721 100% agreed. I think it competes with the meta guns easily if you practice with it and it's definitely not "trash" like so many people dismiss the gun.
@@pkopalek Yup, and since no one really uses it, it hasn't been buffed or nerfed. And I hope it stays that way.
@@guidogonzalez3721 i run double AK’s 😂😂
I don't know why he doesn't use silux scout scope for 2 to 4 x zoom for versatility. Been my favorite and you get more than the 3x he uses.
I love the ground loot one.
Haven´t unlocked the actual weapon yet though.
I have been using this with the field agent grip and landing consistent head shot at range and absolutely deleting people.
I need this info for CW multiplayer! I mean, I tried it full level and it sucks, but i need to know why it sucks and how treyarch can improve it !
Then you need to find a youtuber who actually likes CW😂
@@noobheretrying4189 Ace will eventually do them for CW too but yeah WZ is priority after all...
this argument of slow firing guns being so unforgiving is weird to me. if you have a fast firing gun you'll just miss more shots. unless we're talking really low rof it's a non-issue. if anything slow rof is better for much improved ammo consumption.
then why isnt the odin meta
Why would you miss more shots with a high rof gun? Recoil matters more for missing shots that rof. If you miss a shot with a slow rof gun, it will increase your ttk a lot more than with a high rof gun. So generally you will feel a more consistent ttk with high rof weapon. This is why they are considered more forgiving
@@kratos3500 small mag high recoil. ttk isnt phenominal either.
@@hobojoe9717 say we compare the new ar and lmg. say we go off target, in the time the ar fires one bullets, ergo missing one bullet, the lmg will fire several bullets off target. you loose ttk just the same. You could compare time off target with firing interval to find out if it really matters or not, but the practical approach is probably to just add the time off target to the ttk, in which case it doesn't really matter wether it's high or low rof. And even if you where right...you issue is your aim, not the gun. instead of crutching on high rof guns you should strife to be on target.
So there is essentially no difference there, which just makes low rof more appealing due to better ammo conservation. M16 with 60rnd's was good for a ton of kills, no reload or resupply required. meanwhile the MG82 and FINN run out extremly fast, heck even the Stoner eats ammo like crazy.
I love the c58 and this build is really nice and easy to use! Keep up the great work man!
At long range, 1 headshot reduces the shots to kill by one, bringing it back to the 541 ms TTK, which is just filthy.
About time my SCAR got some love!
50 x 5.56 mag for the SCAR when?!
Looks good wish they could balance some of the other guns they put in the game...
Why couldn't they make the MG82 like this too? Strong with accuracy but not overpowered?
On top of that, the best Amax build has a 407ms ADS time, so the Agency Suppressor on the C58 should always be everyone's choice.
The C58 has a slower ADS speed with the 55 mag + elastic wrap then a 45 mag without grip
I'd suggest 45 + field agent instead
Why does this get a 55 round mag and the SCAR is stuck with 30?
If C58 is good enough in Cold War MP too.......
While it's 7.62mm NATO gun it is same damage, far less range and double recoil than AK.
BOCW guns never made a single sense.
I tried using it in cold war MP and its so trash
@@RagingDemon16 Yeah it's like even slower Milano. My disappointment is immeasurable...
They don't care about these guns in MP anymore, its all WZ where it matters (ya know, BP money)... The CW ARs are absolute trash (in MP) apart from AK and Fara.... There is no reason to use an AR when you can beam the maps with the SMG handling LMGs esp the M82 now....
Gonna try your setup
if ur a gun person…. this is what the StG44 irl shoots and feels like, and that’d be fitting if u know ur history of these 2 guns
I hope the mg 82 multiplayer gun guide comes out soon
I already figured it out, just use no stock and serpent grip to increase ads, stock fast mag and use the other slots as u see fit
@@lMegumemesl I wanted the stats. But thanks for the class set up. Wouldn't you use the airborne elastic wrap for max ads. You can compensate for the sprint out time with a stock
When the MG 82 gets nerfed this weapon will be the best ground loot weapon.
Been waiting on this
What kind of lobby are you on? How can you play like that on plunder and not die?