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@@prismaticheat8186 .2 seconds but going from 55k thrust to 55,900 max thrust. They should be noticeably faster making those 2.5km shots will be quicker.
@@FXIIBeaver Thrust does not always translate to speed... Drag and weight are a thing. If it's the same top speed, same weight but increased thrust and shorter burn... they will actually be worse at dogfighting at all ranges. Once that burn time is gone... it no longer can accelerate or maintain speed as efficiently when turning, fighting drag or a incline. So... a longer burn time is infact nearly always better. But In a straight line at very close range... this setup will be better... but that's not how aeroplanes work.
@@lookurdead8244no he saying that the F-14 Iran version was nerfed which he understands but buffing the magic 2 which were already good doesn’t make sense to him
@Papadimitry that is straight up lies, they are literally easier to lock on with both irst and radar, it's just their flight path is more top down then you expect so you dont even see them coming, when you see the missile they are easy to intercept
@@Jason-jb1vs Hunter did a video where intercepting Kh-38’s has RNG when it comes to intercepting them. Unless it’s been patched, there’s a clip where his VT-1 literally phased through the Kh-38. They’re easy to lock, but not intercept
@Jason-jb1vs no your wrong, yesterday I had a perfect experience where I was in my adats and intercepted 2 agm-65's from a grippen, but moments later I saw a su-34 launch multiple kh-38's and when I tried to lock any of them it would lock for a split second and then loose the lock, it's always been like that and it's so frustrating.
Well i've played patsir s1 recently and it always took me 2-3 missles to intercept any air munition (spikes mostly) so its not just adats thing@@christopherchartier3017
Since you have a ton of aircraft and top-tier aircraft in the game, do you know any way or like tips that I can get to get to top tier faster because I do not have the time to grind a whole lot since I have school
@rmaréchal no it needs to be its historical kit. It should be either 90 normal or 60 normal + 15 large CMs. Also it's not suppose to even carry 120s. Thats the eMLU that carries it and not the OCU. Take away the 120s, give it its proper CM loadouts, and lower its BR down to the other adf f16 with 7Ms and it'll be fine.
@aquafire_yt6247 it's mostly a copy paste tree, especially China air is mostly American and Soviet planes, but China top tier is very nice, you have the j10 wich is one of the best dogfighters, the mirage 2000 with micas and the j11 which is basically a su27. On top of that the tree isn't that big so its relatively easy to grind to top tier.Personally I can recommend it
Magic 2 is actually a nerf, it only made the range further shorter and increased the minimum range radius, it's now got worse range both close in and further away. Better pK in the goldilocks zone, but I doubt Magic 2 actually needed that.
Still means the US is going to be the weakest of the big 3 nations when it comes to anti-air capabilities. Pantsir and Flakrakrad are just too powerful. Top tier US gets the worst tanks, with the worst anti air, and the worst CAS of the big 3 and even minor nations.
Magic 1s have limited all aspects+ are demon missiles I play J-7D, the PL-7s (Chinese Magic 1s) are capable of locking a target In a head on at 1 to .7KM
First of all, it’s not a complete buff. The turning radius of the missile will be increased proportionally to its speed. Secondly, that comes from a primary source showing the exact burn pattern and total thrust of the missile, so we can’t do more primary sourced, accurate change than that. Now you can rest assured, u less they change the way they model the motor (with a variable thrust instead of the constant thrust they currently model on all missiles), the Magic 2 won’t see any more kinetic and maneuverability change. Only its seeker has some buffs that might come, but at that point we’ll probably already have newer generations of IR missiles
Un buff des Magic 2 ?? Mais c'est aussi un nerf si ils ont moins de portée...Les MICA IR ont une portée de 40km donc si ils veulent nous faire patienter il fallait donner aux Magic 2 la même portée que les 9M sans toucher leur maniabilité.
magic 2 buffs just show that the mica ir is not coming soon
I have the best luck with the mica if I can get close.
Or that it is coming lol
If Mica IR gets added, then IRIS-T gets added to the Eurofighter
MICA IR in war thunder would be a stat copy MICA EM but with a different irccm
@Vipixz109probably along with the hornet (getting Aim-9x)
I love fighting IRCCM missiles in my MiG-23. It's very fun I have to say.
Lmfao love the Sarcasm in this comment. Yeah 11.0-12.0 is kinda cracked with the newest fighters right now.
F16A is gonna join the party also. No irccm but cracked flight model 🤣
@@sjamwala they need to fix the mig29 flight model its cracked aswell lol needs to be buffed badly
stay at range? u have r24r which is a free kill, vs magic 2 with 2km range that is a free kill
@@ILikeTuwtles As if the Magic 2 IRCCM does anything
Finally, i was scared u went to sleep
Magic 2 Buffs? Ah damn
No... It's a fucking nerf.
its not really a buff or a nerf
Deff a buff much faster and more range
Magic 2s got buffed? Holy hell.
French Bias?
Ehh the vid says it burns less but it's faster so I'd say close range it'll be even better and longer ranges it'll be worse
@@prismaticheat8186 .2 seconds but going from 55k thrust to 55,900 max thrust. They should be noticeably faster making those 2.5km shots will be quicker.
it just gets the same booster as the magic 1 its actually a nerf 10 less meters per second delta v
@@FXIIBeaver Thrust does not always translate to speed... Drag and weight are a thing.
If it's the same top speed, same weight but increased thrust and shorter burn... they will actually be worse at dogfighting at all ranges. Once that burn time is gone... it no longer can accelerate or maintain speed as efficiently when turning, fighting drag or a incline. So... a longer burn time is infact nearly always better. But In a straight line at very close range... this setup will be better... but that's not how aeroplanes work.
Bro I understood the iranian f14 nerf but magic 2 buff?? Fcking hell.
F14a iran has magic 2?
@@lookurdead8244no he saying that the F-14 Iran version was nerfed which he understands but buffing the magic 2 which were already good doesn’t make sense to him
@@TylerJC40 thanks
0:15 (A-5C BR change)
0:50 (F-16A OCU change)
1:35 (Me-262-U4 change)
2:00 (F-4C change)
2:20 (Magic 2 Buff)
2:53 (ADATS change(buff))
France casually having the best missiles in game:
9M is still better in the meta. Nobody dogfights anymore
*best punching-distance missile
Both the Magic 2 and MICA have the worst range of any missile in their category.
@joundii3100 wrong, r77 has less range than the mica
🤣🤣Faut vraiment rien écouter pour dire ça... Les Magic 2 seront détruit là ils vont plus rien toucher à plus de 2km.
@@lazer2238 nobody dogfights because of the R-73s + HMD...
I love how gaijin have completly forgotten about italy in this round of br changes
Except for the arcade 40/70 nerf
@Iden_in_the_Rain That Is Just the mandatory Nerf of at least One or two italian vehicles every round of br changes
Until the ADATS gets smoke grenades to avoid the KH-38’s, not worth it
You cant even lock these damn missiles but for some reason mavs and even spikes are very easy to lock but not russian missiles
@Papadimitry that is straight up lies, they are literally easier to lock on with both irst and radar, it's just their flight path is more top down then you expect so you dont even see them coming, when you see the missile they are easy to intercept
@@Jason-jb1vs Hunter did a video where intercepting Kh-38’s has RNG when it comes to intercepting them. Unless it’s been patched, there’s a clip where his VT-1 literally phased through the Kh-38. They’re easy to lock, but not intercept
@Jason-jb1vs no your wrong, yesterday I had a perfect experience where I was in my adats and intercepted 2 agm-65's from a grippen, but moments later I saw a su-34 launch multiple kh-38's and when I tried to lock any of them it would lock for a split second and then loose the lock, it's always been like that and it's so frustrating.
Well i've played patsir s1 recently and it always took me 2-3 missles to intercept any air munition (spikes mostly) so its not just adats thing@@christopherchartier3017
A-5C is 10.7 when its competition which are better in everyway are lower in BR.
it was perfectly balanced at 10.3 and op at 10.0, now with mig 21 going lower 10.3 will still be perfectly balanced
ehh it was clubbing 9.3 planes.@@magicianGOD
@ well,it has only 2 rockets and migs with 4 r60ms will be at 10.3 so....
This is a great buff for the adats since the missile cant even keep up with a targets movements at all past 4 kilometers
Skill issue
@@sanmiguel4774 ok smart guy, maybe instead of your 2 dimensional insult you could maybe tell us how it's done and help him improve
Since you have a ton of aircraft and top-tier aircraft in the game, do you know any way or like tips that I can get to get to top tier faster because I do not have the time to grind a whole lot since I have school
Magic 2s came a long way, i wonder if another missile got as many buffs in its lifetime
0:22 good now all other tanks and planes that need it
still waiting the 0.3 br diff between IS7 and Obj 279
Bro I literally bought a talisman for the Chinese f5 already oh well
A5 rank 7 thank god, that f16 need more cm jesus not hmd
it needs HMD more
@rmaréchal no it needs to be its historical kit. It should be either 90 normal or 60 normal + 15 large CMs. Also it's not suppose to even carry 120s. Thats the eMLU that carries it and not the OCU. Take away the 120s, give it its proper CM loadouts, and lower its BR down to the other adf f16 with 7Ms and it'll be fine.
Is the R2Y2 ever getting moved down to 7.0 😔
How is mica compared to 120s? Ik magic 2 and r73 is better than 9m
how do you make your hangar camera look so good man ? 🙏
so we wont get SLAMRAAM since ADATS got buffed
amazing , the adats ?
Another magic2 buff OMG and i need to fight it in low br 😅 did gaijin forgot magic 2 in 11.0 br?
Mirage 4000 with 8 magics 💀
Shhhh
Quite you
The f4c desperately needs a buff it's in such a sad state currently
I commonly get 3-5 kills a game in it
Drop the gunpod and climb to space, you’ll thank me later
does that also mean the pl7 gets buffed?
why is ur fps capped to 60 idk if its that but it makes the video stutter
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Magic 2 buffs?! I'm all ears 😊
Tu vas être déçu alors...
The A5c will go up in br? Or rank?
I think he misspoke, it will only go up in rank, I'd would make no sense to put it even higher
@ is china worth to grind ? I have ussr sweden usa toptier
@@aquafire_yt6247if you have ussr you don’t need china unless you want a J10
@aquafire_yt6247 it's mostly a copy paste tree, especially China air is mostly American and Soviet planes, but China top tier is very nice, you have the j10 wich is one of the best dogfighters, the mirage 2000 with micas and the j11 which is basically a su27. On top of that the tree isn't that big so its relatively easy to grind to top tier.Personally I can recommend it
@aquafire_yt6247 I fully grinder out China. I say yes. The jh7 is fun, j7e is the best dogfights, j10a is top 3 in game at 13.7. I would recommend
gaijin is foreshadowing a new israel spaa, that's good.
Which one are they foreshadowing
Magic 2 is actually a nerf, it only made the range further shorter and increased the minimum range radius, it's now got worse range both close in and further away. Better pK in the goldilocks zone, but I doubt Magic 2 actually needed that.
The range actually increased according to a test, but only by like a small percentage
Oh shut up.
Mat are you ready for auctions with op vehicles that will ruin this game soon?
3:52 hahaha ah yes soooo good lmao
Usa f16a is even worse regularly fights against planes with irccm and fox3 with only aim9l no hmd and only 60 countermeasures
Yo mat, have a sleep man
Yeah as if rafale wasn't already strong enough, betting 100$ they'll nerf the ef once again soon bc why not
Italy have the worst f16 !!
bro ur grapgics so high u use max rtx what ur specs mat
Magic buff??? wtf gaijin
bro, magic 2 more buff? ☠
wow
Still means the US is going to be the weakest of the big 3 nations when it comes to anti-air capabilities. Pantsir and Flakrakrad are just too powerful. Top tier US gets the worst tanks, with the worst anti air, and the worst CAS of the big 3 and even minor nations.
Israel don't even have an spaa what are you on about,
@callcentrelink7021 i didnt say all minor nations. Even China has better top tier SPAA than US.
the US simply dint develop anything like flarakrad and pantsir after ADATS you can't do anything about it
@ Towed patriot missile systems don't exist?
A5c in 10.7 stupid few flare crap maneuverability vs 11.7 return to 10.0
Magic 1s have limited all aspects+ are demon missiles
I play J-7D, the PL-7s (Chinese Magic 1s) are capable of locking a target In a head on at 1 to .7KM
10.3 is perfectly balanced
Give us Mica ir ❌
Buff magic 2 ✅
Meteor too, it was shown next to the AESA radar to introduce the F3R
Do you realise how advanced mica ir is
ADATS is finally getting better 🙏🙏🙏
How?
@ cause the missile got buffed…
@ ok
Still not as good as it should be the radar is still terrible sadly
@ bro fr, I wish it would be accurate
WE DONT NEED MAGIC 2 BUFFS
C'est un nerf déguisé...
First of all, it’s not a complete buff. The turning radius of the missile will be increased proportionally to its speed.
Secondly, that comes from a primary source showing the exact burn pattern and total thrust of the missile, so we can’t do more primary sourced, accurate change than that.
Now you can rest assured, u less they change the way they model the motor (with a variable thrust instead of the constant thrust they currently model on all missiles), the Magic 2 won’t see any more kinetic and maneuverability change. Only its seeker has some buffs that might come, but at that point we’ll probably already have newer generations of IR missiles
FFS Magic 2 buffs.
Un buff des Magic 2 ?? Mais c'est aussi un nerf si ils ont moins de portée...Les MICA IR ont une portée de 40km donc si ils veulent nous faire patienter il fallait donner aux Magic 2 la même portée que les 9M sans toucher leur maniabilité.
Cry
That magic 2s shouldn’t of gotten a buff
En fait ils sont nerf sur leur portée... Mais comme vous êtes toujours à chouiner avant d'avoir écouté et avant d'avoir vu de vos yeux en jeu.
wtf?? magic 2 buff?? as it wasnt strong enough in the first place omfg
wtf why still buff the magic2
it is the earliest IRCCM missile that can be access in early aircraft stage