Salvaging a Tar-Stained Classic - Macintosh Classic Part 1 - iiiDIY

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  • @BeniD82
    @BeniD82 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Glad you left the sigh in the video. So relatable :) Good Job so far!

  • @skimmingdeath
    @skimmingdeath 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You don't know how much I love your videos. The ASMR, the detailed cleaning. The recapping process, I eagerly await for these videos you upload. Greetings from a fan all the way down in Argentina.

    • @iiidiy
      @iiidiy  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow, thank you so much for the kind words! I hope to visit your beautiful country one day :)

  • @JeffGeerling
    @JeffGeerling 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Heh, just needed the little love tap in the end.

    • @iiidiy
      @iiidiy  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Is it plugged in? Yeah? Hmmm.. Have you tried hitting it?"

  • @InitialiseDisk
    @InitialiseDisk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve been waiting for another video! I’ve seen some people reflow chip legs and other connections to tackle corrosion, seems to work pretty well. I suspect that your power issues are probably cracked solder joints on the logic board. I was thinking about getting a compact mac but like you I just don’t think they’re powerful enough. Mid 90s Mac games are my soft spot. So many amazing 3D games, especially the flight sims (F/A-18 Hornet is definitely my favourite). As always thank you for making some of the best vintage tech videos on TH-cam. :)

    • @iiidiy
      @iiidiy  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Aw, thanks! I don't want to spoil it, but have already solved the power issues :) I somehow now have 5 compact Macs in my collection (parts & future projects) and the form factor is amazing! They are so small and portable, and relatively easy to work on. But yeah, I like to only long-term keep computers I have a real use for... and that's harder with these. I know prices are ridiculous, but have you considered a Mystic Color Classic? Is an 040 enough for the games you like?

    • @InitialiseDisk
      @InitialiseDisk 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@iiidiy Yes I’d definitely want one of those. I should go hunting in recycling centres because realistically I’m never going to buy one on eBay or Facebook. The size would be perfect as well.

  • @BilisNegra
    @BilisNegra 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I liked your PowerCd videos so much that I was glad there was a new video of yours even before noticing what it was even about. Looking forward to the next video on this repair/restoration.

    • @iiidiy
      @iiidiy  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you, you just made my morning :)

  • @tony359
    @tony359 หลายเดือนก่อน

    another amazing video!
    A few suggestions, and I want to be very constructive here, not criticizing at all!
    - Diswasher. I know some disagree with me but no, I don't want a PCB in my dishwasher. There is LEAD on those joints and all sorts of chemicals. It's a small board, a small container with soapy water and a brush will do wonder :) If you get some Electrolube SWAS, even better :)
    - I'd check that switch with a multimeter in continuity mode
    - I know it's cool to show on camera but I would have dipped that case "as is" in a bucket with soapy water!
    Too bad tar cannot be washed out so easily from people's lungs... OMG!!!
    Amazing!!!

    • @iiidiy
      @iiidiy  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Tony! I'll give you my context on those points, NOT to be defensive or argumentative in the slightest. I do genuinely love getting feedback :) But I get the sense you like to understand the "why" of things :)
      - Dishwasher: that's a good point, and something I should've mentioned in the video actually! I wouldn't use my household dishwasher, this is an old one at the office that doesn't get used much. I tried manually cleaning the first couple boards, and the dishwasher was LEAGUES better at getting the tar out of the little tight spaces. I've since moved on to the ultrasonic anyways, but did like how the dishwasher performed - in my limited office context
      - I'll check the switch, thanks! I might hit you up for some advice on that when I get around to the Classic II that I stole the good switch from :)
      - I *always* give computers a wipe-down before disassembling. Especially when they're this gross... but it's more a cleanliness / OCD thing. I don't what the dirty components all over the workspace, and I don't like handling the grossness even with gloves. It's not for the camera, it soothes my brain to clean immediately and as I go.

    • @tony359
      @tony359 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iiidiy
      >But I get the sense you like to understand the "why" of things :)
      Yep. Aka PITA.
      Thanks! To be honest, I never used a dishwasher so I don't really know. For your ultrasonic, give SWAS a go - it's expensive but it just works magic with a brush. Can be re-used. Good to hear it was not your household washer!
      For the rest, I can very much understand!
      I've seen those switches which feel mushy before. The Mac Plus I got had a SERVICEABLE switch, with a hole at the side where you could stick a cotton bud and clean the actual contacts!

    • @iiidiy
      @iiidiy  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tony359 Hah, no no no... not a PITA, I'm the same way. Wasn't always the teacher's favourite as a result :)

    • @tony359
      @tony359 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iiidiy I'm "nobody's favourite" :)

  • @mac27collection
    @mac27collection 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great vid as always! Looking forward to Part II. A solid-state storage device would be a great upgrade for this Mac.

    • @iiidiy
      @iiidiy  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks - definitely agree about the drive!

    • @antdavisonNZ
      @antdavisonNZ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Replacing SCSI HD with SCSI2SD on a Macintosh Classic II th-cam.com/video/AgFzf0qwHjo/w-d-xo.html

  • @jens_reset
    @jens_reset 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You deserve more subs

    • @iiidiy
      @iiidiy  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks :) Slow and steady!

  • @BigBadBench
    @BigBadBench 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really beautiful work on the cleanup! Did you recap the analog board?

    • @iiidiy
      @iiidiy  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks John (Mr. Big Bad?)! I haven't recapped the analog board yet... I usually do a visual inspection of those caps, and only replace if there's signs of failure -- either leaking or behavioural issues. There are definitely some analog board behavioural issues here, but I tackle that in the next episode :)

    • @THEtechknight
      @THEtechknight 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iiidiythese particular analog boards need shotgunned, its expected at this point.

    • @iiidiy
      @iiidiy  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@THEtechknight Sorry, I'm not familiar with that term... by "shotgunned" do you mean they'll all need to be re-capped?

    • @THEtechknight
      @THEtechknight 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iiidiyYes.... All Macintosh Classic and Classic II analog boards need fully recapped. If you look in your restoration video, you can see the copper corrosion from the leaking capacitors in the area that you have reflown twice now. They need changed.

    • @iiidiy
      @iiidiy  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@THEtechknight Thank you! I definitely had a blind-spot about this. I was looking at the top side of the board where the caps are, and didn't see signs... but if you pause to think about it for even a second, of COURSE the signs would be on the copper traces below. D'oh! And it's right there, not so subtly hiding in plain sight. I'll fix this, and watch out in the future. Really appreciate the advice, thanks!

  • @kirishima638
    @kirishima638 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was well produced but I feel like you tried to do too much in one go without verifying your work as you went.
    Did you try booting the machine before cleaning and recapping the board?

    • @iiidiy
      @iiidiy  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This video was shot over several days... it was a deep clean and initial evaluation, with only one early troubleshooting step to try and then verify, but maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying. I'm very open to specifics!
      I didn't try powering it on because the logic board was left unplugged by the previous owner, cap juice was all over the board, and it was covered in very smelly tar. It had to be deep cleaned, just to be allowed into a smoke-free home ;) So that was the starting point before troubleshooting could begin.

    • @kirishima638
      @kirishima638 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iiidiy fair enough

  • @tripdeezy
    @tripdeezy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice. This was a cool presentation.

    • @iiidiy
      @iiidiy  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks!