Thank you this is exactly what I’ve been trying to figure out and this is the first video I’ve found that shows how to do it. I’ve watched hundreds of fiberglassing videos and this is the best automotive fiberglass fabrication channel on TH-cam.
I have been building fiberglass race car parts for about 20 years now. It’s great someone took the time to show a little how to bc people have zero idea how this stuffs made
I've seen pretty much all your fiberglassing videos and I still don't feel like I'm an expert but I'm wanting to make saddlebags for my motorcycle and I'm getting more confident thanks for your great videos
Pretty nice wing man, did you design this by yourself or has it been done professionally designed. Just asking because those angles on the base are pretty sharp, looks like it would stir our the air a bit
No there isn't. I just hollowed out the ends once the wing was trimmed to fit, then used car filler and a plastic template to hold the Rivnuts in place with their bolts while the complete ends dried, doing one end at a time.
I plan on getting some pouring foam for a wing I have that’s hollow inside. Should I be worried about the foam breaking it since it’s already a completed wing?
No, don\ 't be worried. You will probably need to cut a 30mm hole in it to pour the foam in. Just make sure the wing has that hole at the top so the excess foam can escape, rather than over pressurize your job. I'd stand the wing up vertically & drill that hole in one end. It's easilt repaired with car body filler once the foam is done.
When you used the fairing compound to give a better angle between the gel-coat and fibreglass, did you have to seal it or does the resin soak straight through?
Its all done in a continuous, one step wet layup. The fairing compound is applied, them csm straight over it, then the rest of the resin & cloth. Fairing compound is based on vinylester resin, so it is compatable with the layup polyester resin and they merge into one.
is the foam's bonding strong enough to hold the wing together? tempted to give this a go but I'd be quite concerned about the 2 halves not being held together fully
You have obviously never worked with pouring foam & struggled to chisel off spillage when it hardens. Remember not only is this stuff super adhesive, it contacts the entire internal surfaces within the wing. This method would be WAY stronger than just edge gluing with anything. Foam " sandwiches" (2 sheets of aluminium glued together with pouring foam) have been used in the highest construction level in motorsport.. starting with the Chapparal I believe.
Yes. You can also just do it with sheet aluminium for flat panels, like Hal Sharp pioneered with his awesome & extremely innovative Chaparral CanAm sports cars.
Thank you. I was wondering why there are so few, foam + fiberglass monocoque builds compared to tubular space frames, and carbon and or aluminum honeycomb monocoques.
You would wanna use a pre preg carbon. This would work but it wouldn’t be as strong. Also you would need to make sure you alternate your weave in the direction you need it bc you would be amazed how much that changes the strength of a part. Most likely you wouldn’t have the tools at home to do a carbon monocoque bc you would need a vac system
That's a good idea for anyone wanting to go to that degree of design. I am certainly no aerodynamic engineer, but that wing profile was cut to particular specifications. The aim with a rear wing on a car is to create downforce, not lift. I'd have to leave it to the experts if wanting advice, but from what I've seen on the net so far there is a tremendously wide variety of views among them on automotive aerodynamics - many of which contradict each other.
Different wing profiles produce certain amounts of lift at different speeds. You just turn the profile upside down for downforce. I'm not engineer either just studying to build my own hillclimb car
Not a reload but a completely new video. You may be recalling me making the rear wing for my Interlude dirt car, but this is showing how to mold & re-produce that wing.
Yes you can make a wing this way with carbon fiber, but the problem with going for the "natural" black cloth look is that it is a two piece construction. When painting you simply bog & sand the joins - but how you gonna hide them with no filler? The weight difference is minimal because you only need one layer of 225gm csm + one layer of 450gm csm with making the actual wing halves because the foam adds strength.
You can but they never come out as nice. In my years we have tried a few times to save time and freehand a race car part and they never look that great.
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Bill, you're a mad genius and I love it!
Thank you this is exactly what I’ve been trying to figure out and this is the first video I’ve found that shows how to do it.
I’ve watched hundreds of fiberglassing videos and this is the best automotive fiberglass fabrication channel on TH-cam.
Thanks buddy. You will love the other 30+ fiberglass tutorials listed in my "Library" on this channel's main page.
I have been building fiberglass race car parts for about 20 years now. It’s great someone took the time to show a little how to bc people have zero idea how this stuffs made
Another very informative video. You cannot beat experience. Thank you for sharing your knowledge
Love seeing these items take shape! The home and parts making are just amazing to watch. Best wishes for your wife!
I was thinking about building a wing like the one on the first car, I went to TH-cam, and there this was. :)
I love watching your fiberglass videos! Very informative without excessive chit chat.
I am working on a similar project, thanks very much for recording this great video. Cheers!
I've seen pretty much all your fiberglassing videos and I still don't feel like I'm an expert but I'm wanting to make saddlebags for my motorcycle and I'm getting more confident thanks for your great videos
Almost done making my own die rather than buying a premade wing to copy. Appreciate the videos!
pleasure to watch, Im preapring to "wrap around" spoiler extension in K11 Micra, thanks for the vid!
Greetings!
Finally new videos! Greetings from Germany and hang in there, you are doing a good job!
Such a great video!! But oh man, that soundtrack...
I agree. It is a bit creepy and dark.
Amazing- you could make a tidy some fabricating rubber lip sections for Porsche 911 tails and spoilers.
Totally love your videos
Pretty nice wing man, did you design this by yourself or has it been done professionally designed. Just asking because those angles on the base are pretty sharp, looks like it would stir our the air a bit
Great video, although I just wanted climb dance to continue. Now I'll have to get the DVD out to watch it
Great vid Bill.
I love it, thanks for the video 👍
this was awesome. is there another how to on how you capped the ends and added rivnuts for the blade tl be mounted to the rest of your wing?!
No there isn't. I just hollowed out the ends once the wing was trimmed to fit, then used car filler and a plastic template to hold the Rivnuts in place with their bolts while the complete ends dried, doing one end at a time.
thanks sir
Do I use wax or non waxed gel coat for stuff like this?
great video but with the music on I was expecting to see Dracula appear and bite you.
Hell yeah group B
I plan on getting some pouring foam for a wing I have that’s hollow inside. Should I be worried about the foam breaking it since it’s already a completed wing?
No, don\
't be worried. You will probably need to cut a 30mm hole in it to pour the foam in. Just make sure the wing has that hole at the top so the excess foam can escape, rather than over pressurize your job. I'd stand the wing up vertically & drill that hole in one end. It's easilt repaired with car body filler once the foam is done.
WJP004 do you happen to know what pound/kilogram density foam you used?
When you used the fairing compound to give a better angle between the gel-coat and fibreglass, did you have to seal it or does the resin soak straight through?
You'll have to give me a time reference so I know exactly what you're asking.
WJP004 4:23
Its all done in a continuous, one step wet layup. The fairing compound is applied, them csm straight over it, then the rest of the resin & cloth. Fairing compound is based on vinylester resin, so it is compatable with the layup polyester resin and they merge into one.
What brand etc pouring foam did you use? Will any do?
i wish you were my neighbor hahah !!!
is the foam's bonding strong enough to hold the wing together? tempted to give this a go but I'd be quite concerned about the 2 halves not being held together fully
You have obviously never worked with pouring foam & struggled to chisel off spillage when it hardens. Remember not only is this stuff super adhesive, it contacts the entire internal surfaces within the wing. This method would be WAY stronger than just edge gluing with anything. Foam " sandwiches" (2 sheets of aluminium glued together with pouring foam) have been used in the highest construction level in motorsport.. starting with the Chapparal I believe.
WJP004 I've not worked with it no! good to know that. thanks for making these videos they're awesome.
he was jumping on it, how stronger else can it be :)
Can you build a monocoque this way? (just with fiberglass and higher density pour foam)
Yes. You can also just do it with sheet aluminium for flat panels, like Hal Sharp pioneered with his awesome & extremely innovative Chaparral CanAm sports cars.
Thank you. I was wondering why there are so few, foam + fiberglass monocoque builds compared to tubular space frames, and carbon and or aluminum honeycomb monocoques.
You would wanna use a pre preg carbon. This would work but it wouldn’t be as strong. Also you would need to make sure you alternate your weave in the direction you need it bc you would be amazed how much that changes the strength of a part. Most likely you wouldn’t have the tools at home to do a carbon monocoque bc you would need a vac system
You need a RC airplane wing software then you can make proper wing profile's that will generate lift.
That's a good idea for anyone wanting to go to that degree of design. I am certainly no aerodynamic engineer, but that wing profile was cut to particular specifications. The aim with a rear wing on a car is to create downforce, not lift. I'd have to leave it to the experts if wanting advice, but from what I've seen on the net so far there is a tremendously wide variety of views among them on automotive aerodynamics - many of which contradict each other.
Different wing profiles produce certain amounts of lift at different speeds. You just turn the profile upside down for downforce. I'm not engineer either just studying to build my own hillclimb car
I like your video. I'd like to see more!
More of what?
Fibreglassing technique and your project's oh and car histories
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Will this fit my honda
It's going on my Prelude!
Moog is that you ?
It's a reupload no ? I've the sensation I've see that sometimes ago...
Not a reload but a completely new video. You may be recalling me making the rear wing for my Interlude dirt car, but this is showing how to mold & re-produce that wing.
can you do this with carbon fiber?
Are you after the weight difference or the appearance?
+WJP004 mostly appearance but the weight is nice too
Yes you can make a wing this way with carbon fiber, but the problem with going for the "natural" black cloth look is that it is a two piece construction. When painting you simply bog & sand the joins - but how you gonna hide them with no filler? The weight difference is minimal because you only need one layer of 225gm csm + one layer of 450gm csm with making the actual wing halves because the foam adds strength.
+WJP004 I guess I hadn't thought of that thank you
New building a home videos soon?
Soon. There's been a hold up with my wife's health.
WJP004 I hope she's ok!
I've seen people do it without making a mold
You can but they never come out as nice. In my years we have tried a few times to save time and freehand a race car part and they never look that great.
@@racerdude7730 theres lots of videos on youtube of people doing it without molds and they come out very nice
no sir we don't like ur head mount camera technique it's difficult to understand