/ jimquisition www.thejimquisition.com sharkrobot.com/collections/jim... I'm pretty much done with talking about No Man's Sky ("do a Columbo, do a Columbo") - oh, one last thing....
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his Hype? No, says the Jimquisition man. It belongs to Chungus. Well, I rejected this answer. I chose the impossible; I chose Reddit.
A website where the shitposter would not fear the ban. Where the conspiracy theorist would not be bound by petty common sense. Where the hyped would not be constrained by the rational. And with the sweat of your Hype, Reddit can become your home website as well.
that's why I like this game, it's pretty much just peaceful, the loneliness of space is pretty well simulated here, I remember going to a star system, and I stayed there for 3 days, exploring and mining, Because each planet was different, thats why I liked it
+Hypnotic Synopsis I'm afraid I haven't kept totally up to date with all this, but, out of curiosity, what did they actually lie about? I wasn't aware of any actual lies, just that it wasn't as good as people thought it would be.
KitsyX The devs said in multiplayer interviews that the game was going to have multiplayer. They said that you could fly around with friends. There was pvp and trading. They just said that it would be extremely hard to find one another. 2 streamers went to the same location and couldn't see each other. The game's case even says that it has multiplayer.
SquadPoop those planets are that different from one another. Geography is basically the same from one planet to another. You get a green planet here and an orange planet there.
that was some hard earned allowance money (or maybe not so hard earned, whatever). Who dares to tell them that they should possibly think about not buying into the dishonest press for next month's overhyped indie. They have no sense of money management or better judgement of what's objectively wrong with a game title. They put on such a show to prove to others that they weren't just given the money without any work. So they overcompensate by chopping the heads off of people who do feel genuine disappointment cause they legitimately earned that money. Regardless of, however small, you might think 60$ is in the grand scheme of things.
Now, to be fair, not all indies are overhyped. In fact, quite the opposite: many, many excellent games are left unplayed because the dev didn't/couldn't advertise it enough.
For everyone's reference: this is the exact same phenomenon that lots of other industries use on the regular. It's a tactic that I think is called "identity marketing," which basically involves telling your prospective customers that you're selling them more than a product or a piece of tech. It's a statement about who they are as a person -- they're a gamer, an Apple user, an Intel or AMD owner, a BMW or Audi or Mercedes or Subaru driver, a member of a gym or health club... it goes on and on and on. Essentially, the tactic boils down to telling people that "When you buy this, you make it part of who you are." And therefore, when anyone questions, criticizes, insults, or even says something not explicitly positive about the thing, people vulnerable to this exploitative anti-consumerist bullshit feel attacked themselves. Because who gives a fuck about human beings when there's money involved?
Reading your comment makes me imagine a horrible future dystopia ruled by corporations where ethnicity or nationality is supplanted by what products you buy ... At least we'll have driverless cars, probably space colonies too! (Of tbe Weyland-Yutani variety). So that's cool...
Well... to be fair, in places like the US, this is already absolutely a reality for very, very many people. Hell, it even extends not just to brands and products, but also to things like opinions - because this whole "BUT MUH IDENTITEH!" thing works just all too damn well on a country that's basically in a cultural and societal midlife crisis and in the process of realizing that a lot of its ideas and ideals are archaic and its citizens ill-treated (read, America).
Why a crucifix? huh? HUH? PUNK? WHY A CRUCIFIX? YOU IMPLYING SOMETHING? YOU TRYING TO ASSUME OUR RELIGION? HUH? On a more seriously note, loved this comment, laughed for a good 30 seconds ^^
What's even funnier than that is his veneration of Boogie2988. The fact that Boogie liked the game is this Jackass's "proof" that Jim is a bad reviewer. Like...holy shit remember when people used to respect Booggie2988?! That makes me feel so goddamn ANCIENT
this sounds much like no man's sky arguments. At least NMS is a harmless game while leafy's entire career is him mocking children and the mentally disabled.
+Makron5 One how many are truly level mentally disabled and two those kids make millions off of horrible music videos paid for by their millionare parents and who don't even bother to buy someone who can write lyrics that are decent and make sense and also refuse to get some auto-tune to fix their horrible singing
being a huge fan and supporter of the game from it's announcement and enjoying it since release I thought the ddos attack was a pretty low point. I may not agree with all your views but that's the beauty of life. We all like different things and can have opinions. It makes life interesting
Star Citizen will be MILLIONS of times worse, imagine Mighty No. 9, but the collective ass pain will make the internet shit its pants for months simply because of the amount of money people have given to it. I honestly can't wait, its gonna make every game controversy from the past 5 year combined look tame in comparison.
+JD “WoolyBug” Wohlever How is it the rich boys space simulator? AFAIK you help crowdfund the game and they give you a ship as a thanks... Like kickstarter but you get the rewards right away.
Hate to break it to you. You can play StarCitizen right now, and it's better than NMS. It has so much built and solid gameplay already, more content already. Done. Smoked. GG.
If Star Citizen sucks, people will know about it. You can play it now, or look up gameplay of it. It's not hidden away like NMS was. Maybe it will suck, but people will know about it in advance. You won't get a massive shitstorm like you have with NMS.
I had a guy named Acriticalhit64 make 5 videos about me, threatening to expose me over Pokemon GO, because I said I personally didn't enjoy Pokemon GO that much.
JIM!! MINI BOGLINS WTF!? OH MY GOD! Jim, I always admired you when you brought the Boglin thing to Jimquisition. I'm a 90's kid myself and I've been asking around if any of my childhood friends remembered the Mini Boglins or the big ones. None of them do. I have plenty of memories playing and collecting them with a good friend of mine but it seems that they were still kinda unknown thing where I lived (Finland), certainly no one had a real name for them. I remember calling them "Snotlings" or just "Goblins". Later in life I found out their name and remembered that I had a big bag of the mini Boglins stored for memories. I find it very exhilarating that you bring them up and that one person seems to share my childlike enthusiasm for creepy crawlies, all the things that made Boglins and similar toys cool. Thanks for bringing those good childhood memories back. I feel that after this Jimquisition this comment section could use some positivity. Please keep us updated on that new Boglin line, interesting stuff. (Also; I'm thinking about sending you my collection of mini Boglins if you'd be interested. Hope you'll see this comment.) Thank god for Jim.
Hi Miikka, Glad you like it. Boglins were my all-time best thing as a kid, and I've been loving turning them into a running goof on the show. So glad it's giving your the good nostalgia vibes, too. :-D I actually have a Boglinwartch segment planned on the Mini Boglins I ordered recently. It's incomplete so I may very well be interested in help with plugging up any gaps. :-D
Jim Please tell me you actually finished the game before publishing the review, Or at least did the Altas questline when you told fanboys to "Find Religion" Because that's exactly what the Altas questline is like, hell Gamespot even said the questline was like finding the meaning of life. I fear for what sort of Pandora's box you might have inadvertently opened.
Oh man, can I just echo that? I was obsessed with Boglins growing up in Ireland. I wrote essays about them for school, which baffled the teacher when the essay was supposed to be about what it was like to be a Hebrew slave in Egypt or something. I remember seeing the boglins in their cage like boxes on a ferry to wales and knowing that I HAD TO HAVE ONE. I eventually managed to get one, a glow in the dark one. And I had a baby boglin too, the one that came in the egg. I loved him. And I think I also had a sort of more solid one with a spikey sort of back? I think his eyes popped out or something when you squeezed him. But what I remember most clearly was saving my "wages" as an altar boy (you got 20p a week from the older priest but if the nicer curate was there he'd give you 50p!) and from weeding the drive or mowing the lawn to slowly, over the course of weeks, save up the money to buy the box of 20 mini boglins that I saw in the toy shop in town. It was battered, old and probably had sat there forever unloved but I fucking loved those little goofy bastards. From mini-boglins, to Monsters in my Pocket to Warhammer. It's a slippery slope kids. Be careful. But yeah I love Boglinwatch and seeing it on your lectern thingy makes me want to go hunt them down so much. I even ended up ranting about it to my poor wife.
Thing is, these kinds of people are not at all exclusive to that subset of NMS fans. I'm not even sure these people are actually fans in any traditional way. Because, as you pointed out, if they were they'd be busy playing the game instead of searching the 'net for targets to attack and throw tantrums over. These people exist for pretty much every single damn topic online--though they do tend to gravitate toward gaming a lot. They see people trying to have a conversation with some critical/analytical depth, and in they jump to yell and scream and break stuff like some two-year-old on bath salts. There are no civil disagreements if they can help it. "I disagree with you, but have enjoyed this discussion" is a thought so foreign to them I doubt they even recognize it. Hopefully, sometime in the near future, we as a society figure out a way to clear them out, though I'm not sure how. But it'd be nice to see them become a rarity.
As I was listening to it number of Tumblr fandoms came to mind. Sadly this behaviour is not isolated to "boys" only. It's sad state of affairs when they barge into your fandom and start festering it :/
I adore the guy in the screen grab at 9:05 saying that Angry Joe should be where Jim is because Angry Joe is a *real* reviewer who would obviously love the game. 1) Angry Joe has 4-5 times the subscribers Jim does. 2) Angry Joe tore NMS a new arsehole.
These are the same types of people who likely complained about the new ghostbusters having an all female cast. They're the worst types of hypocrites. They'll shit over anything they dislike, but go forbid anybody do it back to them. They want to be able to scream about "being PC", "censorship" and "safe spaces" but then will immediately do the very things they complain about when it's something they feel threatened by. God forbid you say something critical about what they like.
Except video games aren't expensive, shitty, sjw propaganda. Oh and you don't to shoot the sentinels' dicks to kill them. Yah that happened in the movie.
Hardly anyone complained about Ghostbusters 2016 having all female cast. The real criticism came from the movie being racist, sexist, full of dull stereotypes, unfunny and poorly written. But of course, why face the truth, when people like you can come up with bogus reasons for everything.
people hated the ghost busters movie because its a cash grab not be cause off an all female cast there are indeed people who do that but they are a very smal minority
As a Fanboy of No Man's Sky, I completely agree with this video. The immature mindless hordes who let the hype paint impossible pictures of what the game would be in their minds. Need to just chill out and play the fucking game.
It's really WEIRD. IF they loved it that much, as the most rabid No Man's Boys that they are, they would probably all be playing the fuck out of the game. Instead they go around the internet, attacking anyone who doesn't share their One True Faith. I only like the aesthetics of the game, never been interested in it, but I would think if you are a fan and like the thing you would be pretty busy consuming the damn game. Oh well, have fun Skaianet. The game seems pretty slick and fun if you are into the exploration and survival aspects. ^^
*UNEXPECTEDLY LONG COMMENT ALERT* Way I see it, the blame for the insane levels of hype and zealotry over this game lies with every party concerned. The devs for their deliberately obtuse and vague marketing and refusal to actually describe what was in the fucking game. They quite purposefully used vague platitudes and nice-sounding but ultimately meaningless soundbites in a transparent effort to whip up a hype frenzy. It's been explained before by more eloquent people but the intention seems to have been to let people believe the game was more than it was without ever refuting it. Indeed, instead of refuting it with concrete answers, Sean Murray just spewed ever more contradictions and marketing guff. Blame also lies with the media for writing up every crumb of news as if Yaweh himself had sent down his prophet to bestow upon us his holy will. They knew what they were doing when they wrote about how "amazing" and "show-stealing" it was. I know the media will just pull the whole "not our fault, guv" routine (PC Gamer have already done so) but they're entirely complicit in the hype cycle, as already evidenced by Watch Dogs and Titanfall. Finally, ultimate blame lies on gamers themselves. Instead of acting rationally and cynically and not allowing themselves to be pulled in by flashy marketing materials *yet a-fucking-gain,* they allowed themselves to fall prey to the hype. They let themselves become the zealous fanboys because they conflate their own identity as a person with the products the enjoy. And that's fine to an extent. It's fine to identify with "gamer" culture or "nerd" culture as long as you also keep a healthy dose of cynicism in your pocket when companies try to exploit that identity and that craving to belong to overhype yet more shite. At the end of the day, consumers need to be the ones who push back against the hype marketing. As long as they keep falling for it, the media and the game devs will keep pushing it because those cultish fanboys help drive preorders and make money. Consumers need to look at themselves and ask "instead of getting angry at critics when a product is shitty, maybe I should just stop getting invested enough to be angry at all." It'll never happen, but that's the only way the zealotry and hype will stop. But, of course, many consumers are just too fucking thick to have that degree of self-awareness.
I gave that post a thumbs up because it has many words and a lot of common sense. PS: The words Common sense might hint that it is common but from my observation, more and more often "common" sense is replaced by interpretations of handpicked statistics, simulations with vague preset parameters or hasty collected market expectations (this somehow directs to another topic so I stop here)...
couldn't agree more, in fact we've seen this same attitude spill over into movies and tv shows (DC films, anyone), where it's no longer ok to just like something in and of itself. now some people are so starved for validation that everyone else has to like it and if they don't, they're either an idiot, a hater or somehow paid to dislike the thing. this inevitably leads to the whole "critics don't know what they're talking about" argument that, again, is indicative of a larger societal problem: the pervasive "i know better than you" mentality that's led to the rise of anti-vaxxers, flat-earthers and chem-trailers who just absolutely refuse to accept widely established fact because it doesn't fit their narrative.
To summarise my opinion: - Overpriced (should have been 15-20 quid) -Revealed too early and released too early (should have given extra time to implement more features to round out the experience better/more things to purchase, upgrade and build) - Game exceeds at being a relaxing exploration game with many dull and beautiful sights in equal measure to balance out the feeling of adventure and discovery, and fufills a very much sought after type of experience with it's quiet, relaxing, almost introspective type of gameplay, that has you pretty much playing for the sake of experiencing the worlds and not chasing some xp bar as you play - though you could grind heavily if you wished to as well. Whatever floats your boat. -It's both receiving justified criticism and unjust at the same time with the sheer amounts of hatred (most likely from those that haven't even played it), as if it was the worst game to ever be made, when in fact it is a game with loads of potential, yet has simply been held back with a stream of bad decisions, both marketing and game design wise. Those interested should give it a try once it goes on sale, as I truly find it a unique and much needed type of game that was worthy of my time and dare I say - money! It encourages the joy of discovery and exploration for no other reason than the enjoyment of discovery and exploration. Never have I taken soooo many screenshots on PS4 before as I encountered what I consider to be beautiful, strange, almost outright ridiculous sights, whether from the landscapes or flying octopus's in the sky (some of the stuff is surprisingly weird and unexpected.)
Icarus Lives It's my story based on what I played. But you're right, we should all just dismiss all the positive aspects of something because some guy on the internet can spout redundant and frankly regurgitated three word sentences in order to trick people into thinking you actually have an opinion based on any kind of objective or critical reasoning.
I can deal with everything that's deemed boring in the game. Just flying around space and finding planets that are to scale makes me jizz in my pants over and over. Then again, I've always been amazed and in awe of astronomy for years. So that probably has a huge part in my love for the game.
Agreed the games sounds great to me. I loved elite 2 frontier back in 94. The game looks relaxing and slow paced just like a lot of games were back in 90s amiga era.
I, personally, felt underwhelmed by it. I've seen worse survival games on Stream Greenlight. It looks pretty, I'll give it that. Got to give credit where credit is due.
definitely agree... huge astronomy nut.... simply flying from planet to planet in real time is more than enough for me.... i knew what it was going to be going in, and i feel it was worth it.... was i disappointed that its not everything i hoped? of course.. Would i have wanted multiplayer and better alien AI and Civilizations? absolutely .... there are countless games (that are terrific) that have let me down.... everything from skyrim to minecraft... to pokemon go.... but they're still good fun games and have value ... and who knows maybe they'll keep building upon it until it is mostly everything we hoped for... take minecraft for example.... kinda barebones at first... but now we got multiplayer, advanced pvp servers, better resources, better reasons to get said resources, multiple bosses.. if they just implement the minecraft model into no mans sky, it'll be amazing
And I will tell him I find the game extremely boring and repetitive. But I dont have to be an ass about it, I bet there are many games I love that he finds extremely bad and boring and vice versa. The problem is with anonymity, people think that being anonymous gives them the right to be an ass to anyone. I doubt they threaten anyone for silly things in real life, because you know, they could get hurt...badly.
*(doesn't watch the video first)* I dunno if I like that video title, Jim. I get it, but... I dunno, No Man's Hype might be better, maybe? No Man's Expectations? No Man's Wishes?
Yeah, I didn't think about that. Seems like all that says is that he is aggressively in the comfort zone of sandbox games. And hey, that's fine, got plenty of hours in Warframe and Terraria and whatnot myself. But if we're going to judge whether someone is a "true, real gamer" or some dumb shit, seems like that kind of person should go beyond their comfort zone and try a variety of games. And if the point is that 200 hours is a lot... Lets see. Spent 1.5k hours on Gmod, 1.1k hours on Terraria, 759 on Warframe... god knows on Minecraft? Like, it doesn't matter, this doesn't prove jack shit, but if you're going to show up to a dick measuring contest with a tic-tac sized penis I am going to make fun of you.
+Harry Dresden Well considering they tried to hype up the multiplayer aspects by saying meeting somebody would be a special event in itself, it sort of is an outrage when those multiplayer aspects don't even work.
Gamers looking for meditative and soothing should just get Viscera Cleanup Detail and Euro Truck Simulator 2, if they don't already have them. As a nice bonus, the two of them combined cost less than No Mans Sky.
You know, if NMS works for somebody as that meditative and soothing experience, I'd just let them enjoy it. +RebelWinterwolf - oh, Grow Home was awesome.
I remember when I was so excited about my job as videogame reviewer for one small magazine and than website. I wrote about quirky japanese and obscure console games which nobody knew, I had my small pool of readers and even when I criticized something, they knew I am fan as they are and we had interesting discussions about my issues and theyr issues with thar game. Nobody ever wanted my head on silver plate. Than redactor decided that they pay me too much for my contribution and I got more mainstream games on my table. And oh my God's incarnation Jim Sterling, things gone wrong almost inmediatelly. I didn't like very much first Uncharted and Tomb Raider: Underworld, some people had problems with it. I bloody hated Red Alert 3 but I am Red Alert fanboy who played Red Alert 2 competitively and I knew that, so I was very careful to boxed-out my personal feelings from main text and be critical only on technical issues and gameplay. But people were upset anyway. I wasn't found of Mass Effect, I liked first's gameplay and RPG elements but story gone straight through me and people was furious, even more when I criticized Mass Effect 2 for ommiting RPG elements, I liked branching paths and shooting but I was one from only two people in magazine, who didn't make this or Starcraft 2 his The Best Game of 2010 (mine was Atelier Totori: The Adventurer of Arland and the other guy had NHL 11). At that time my Facebook page was overflood by abusive comments and every day some dick send my redactor email about my incompetence and ignorance. And than came Starcraft 2 on my table, magazine did series of articles about that game because everybody was so crazy about it, and everybody from writers must play it and wrote his thing. You guess what, I was indefferent about that game, not even critiquing it that much, I liked Warcraft 3, I played it even online and I think that it holds today as great game, but Starcraft 2... I had some performance issues, people said that my high-end AMD graphics card is shit. I said that gameplay is very solid but I am not found of excessive micromanagement of units because I am AoE and C&C fan, people said that AoE and C&C was always shit and I suck. I criticized only 3 faction when Warcraft 3 had 4, people said that I don't understand the lore of Starcraft and only 3 factions are enough. I finnished campain, I prized it's lenght, diversity of missions and new ideas like crafting new units between missions, but I refused to declare it the best strategy game of all times because this is just ridiculous (I remember when this title has AoE 2, first C&C, Empire Earth, Rise of Nations or Settlers) and people was really, REALLY upset about that. In that time I deleted my Facebook page and change my Google+ account, email of my redactor was full of angry and abusive mails and pressure on me was rising, I was ready to continue my work but magazine was afraid of that kind of backlash, plus they changed owner, and I was fired. 3 years after, magazine was scraped and webpage hanged around another year until was taken down an replaced by celebrity gossip. So, that is why I respect Jim Sterling, TotalBiscuit, AngryJoe and other TH-cam game critique personalities because they are really brave and strong enough to sustain theyr moral and professional integrity and don't let crazed maniacs to get upper hand on them.
Ah my good fellow, it seems you need an internet survival guide, first things first any social media accounts? Delete them! Before they get hacks or spammed with death threats, email? Never check them again. The next step is to lie, a lot say you hate these things and that anyone who loves them are cancers on this world, the more toxic and awful you sound the better your disguise will hold. Finally get yourself a bomb bunker, you can never be to safe!
i thought N.M.S was a bit dull , but that's because i don't like survivel games . i liked the new ghostbusters film aswell ( i am a man if that helps my point =) )
Are you dishing out DDoS attacks or death threats? No? Then grab a drink and kick back mate. You're chill, so enjoy Jim's fun wordplay if nothing else and be on with your merry life. I like you.
I heard about No Man's Sky like a year ago and thought "Huh, looks neat. I'll buy it during a Steam sale." I had no idea there was some dramatic stuff going on with people on the internet. Didn't know they'd be so easily triggered by a freaking video game.
Hypnotic Synopsis I'll have to look into it. I'm seeing a lot of stuff from both ends. That devs lied, that fans had unrealistic expectations, etc. Honestly I just wanted a chill space exploration experience. But then again I don't play video games as much as I used to.
Hypnotic Synopsis That doesn't excuse their behavior. This is a feature they wanted but the developers said it wouldn't have. So there's no moral justification.
Commander_Ninja lmao. The devs actually said many times that the game would have multiplayer. They also indicated multiplayer many times. There is never justification that is morally right for someone to send death threats but people have a legitimate reason to be pissed. The devs literally lied to them. The game case even says multiplayer.
NOH! I HAVE CAME TO LATE!!! I MUST NAOW BECAME MAJUCA! AN SAVE WORLD!! I am so sorry, I didn't mean to scream, its just...now we gave sonic team something to do again, and I got scared... T-T
+triangles are 2spooky4me I thought Unleashed was pretty good. I just thought Sonic went too fast. Not to mention the hell that is Eggmanland. *I'm talking about the PS3/360 version.
There was a community before the game came out. There were hardcore death-threats-sending fanboys before the game came out. There wasn't even actual gameplay footage and people were praising No Man's Sky. I don't fucking get it.
I'm one, and while sometimes I do try to defend the indefensible, ie the announcement configuration of the Xbox One, I still hold that it is a perfectly fine console with a more robust online environment than PS4, has games that I, me, myself and other people who are like me, prefer over PS4's exclusive offerings, and is an equal to the PS 4 in every way that matters.
yea and the generation that will defend a game even if it releases in a bad condition I can't tell you how many people said at least hello games tried on steam forums it was insane
You made a wish and now you have to live with the consequences. Seeing all your dreams turn to dust, and all the drama unfold. The world breaking around you in a twisted mockery of a reality. Hoping that one day it will all get better, but not really believing it... It's a lot like playing No Man's Sky, now that I think about it.
well, the moment when a game makes you feel like your PMMM, Tou-fucking-shey: 33.media.tumblr.com/76a31f9a1548133184a3a8dedd81389e/tumblr_n5zxkiT49G1tx6lb9o1_500.gif
Honestly, I kind of feel bad for Hello Games. They made it clear in interviews that they never expected this kind of attention towards NMS, and Sean even said several times that a lot of people could find it pretty disappointing. They were just trying to make another indie game. And, well, then the game got overhyped to the moon and back, and now they have a toxic fanbase and a legion of haters who either think the game is the equivalent of the Bible or think it's the worst game of the decade for not living up to its extreme overhype. Wonderful.
Same here. They also repeatedly tried to tamp down expectations in interviews. Some of the PR videos yes tried to show the rarer more exciting bits of NMS, but that's what all games try to do. I've been following this game heavily since 2013 and it delivered exactly what I expected so I'm quite happy with it. I think a lot of people just didn't really do their homework
I never even so much as gave NMS any attention until its release date and after seeing gameplay of the final product, then comparing to their 2014 "Gameplay" Video. The hype train was 100% completely their fault. Hello Games should have been more in direct control over what they wanted to make their game to look like in their advertisements, especially Sean. That is what his job as the director should have been. In the end, his poor mismanagement of the shit show that was NMS just paints Sean to me as another Peter Molyneux who overpromises and underdelivers.
Damion176 Idk, I haven't seen any gameplay videos on it that was incredulous. Again, they showed planets that were more full of life and interesting topography, but it's not like those planets don't exist or are even that rare. I've watchted just about every interview and piece of footage for 3yrs, and I don't see any comparison with Peter Molyneux
Damion176 The only real incredulity was saying you can see other players one time in an interview (I believe it was once). I think they are going to fix that in the next patch and this was in 2014, things change, but still, that was the one thing Sean is on the hook for.
I think it's kind of inevitable when you both vaguely tease people about a colorful wonderland of near-infinite possibility and have Sony's marketing team. Everyone heard about it but there wasn't much information for it, so their imaginations filled in the gaps with the Perfect Game. One of my friends preordered the game because he thought it would be like Destiny but better in every way, and that hasn't panned out. Even my parents knew about this game and were interested in it, and they're certainly not gamers
I came back here after this whole sorry miserable affair began all over again with Breath of the Wild to remind myself how lucky I am that I'm not a petulant little shitbag and for remembering the definition of 'subjective'
@@AniGaAG lol Star Citizen is never even going to come out. Its made *hundreds* of *million* off of "CrOwdFuNdiNg" for their shit game. They make far more never releasing it fully than if they kept milking the "fans".
the difference is there are star citizen fans who have already invested hundreds if not thousands of dollars into the game so yea they could be potentially worse if shit goes down when it releases
Nothing quite like the righteous anger of the rich boys. (Disclosure, I've spent money on that game but I personally feel no game is worth telling people to kill themselves over)
Yeah, I invested in SC, and as much as I want it to be good, some of the community scares me. Worst case, though, the pledge came with the single-player game too :)
You're not wrong Ben. I'm a Star Cit pledger, I've thrown a good chunk of RL cash into it because I really want it to exist, but I would never dream of raging at someone for disliking the game, or the concept. Fanboy culture is fucking cancerous.
Playstation's hardcore fanboys are easily the most hostile, toxic and pitiful "communities" in gaming. Even ignoring NMS - did you see how they reacted to that one guy who gave Uncharted 4 a less than stellar review? Disgusting.
Congrats, I never thought that I would agree on someone saying that Hell, I actually bought into the fandoms before they where 'yuge' as my countries future president will likely keep saying. Mind you, I didn't even realize that they got that bad, I just watched them and liked them (Undertale is a good game, FNAF was at its moment of inception ok-ish...but shitty ME TOO sequels that my fellow students wouldn't stop yapping about until it 'died' are what made me hate it to death...)
That being said, it makes me wonder why of all the goddamn stupid shitty fandoms that have ever been made, Soulsborne fandom seems ever more a shiny nugget of gold. Sure its a bit, harsh, to simplify it, but its far better then any other fandom I can think about...
+POVgames difference between borderlands and NMS is that borderlands has a good and funny story with cool characters and good action, while NMS, at least in my opinion, has boring action and no real story to speak of.
You had me when I saw the title. I almost didn't have to watch this video because I already knew exactly what's coming. Keep it up man. Cheers from Croatia.
I feel like this happened with Fallout 4. There was people insisting it was the best game ever and there was people insisting it was the worst game ever and it was unplayably boring.
the funniest thing about fallout 4 hype is the load of negative reviews on Steam where people who have hundreds upon hundreds of hours of playtime in the game write like ten paragraphs about how awful it is, while most of the positive reviews are short and from people with under a hundred hours. I really enjoyed it but even I didn't play it much past level 60.
+Pika Pika! I'm glad someone finally noticed this too. Those negative reviews for Fallout 4 are always people who played hundreds of hours. Like, if Fallout 4 is really that bad, then why do you have 350 hours in the game?
Thank you for the Spore comparison. I've been telling people that we already went through this exact same cycle years ago. And of course, thank god for Jim.
To prevent major hype for my own games (assuming I'm lead game designer by then) I should: Step 1) Make a reveal/ announcement trailer when game is practically done Step 2) Reveal release date to be 3-5 weeks near the end of the trailer Step 3) At the very end of the same trailer announce a playable demo being released as early as the next day Step 4) Release playable demo as promised Step 5) Absolute radio silence on social media until the game's release day Step 6) Release the game on day promised Step 7) Wait and see for the results
How about this: 1. Release the game (3/4 of it) and make no effort to advertise it 2. Do a big trailer/reveal about 3 days later, and put the release date at the end, and put the actual date it was released 3. Now everyone thinks they missed the "big launch" and will scramble to get on board 4. Repeat step 2 once a week for several weeks 5. Release the remaining 1/4 left out of step 1 as a "free expansion due to popular demand" 6. Repeat step 4 There.... You've launched your game with no (noticeable) delays, and the famboys are going crazy... In a good way I should get paid for this shit
Step 8) Watch game flop miserably because fans WANT to be hyped and WANT to be put on this runaway train and will make and board that train themselves if they have to. Seriously, if you just don't say anything, fans will bitch you're not communicating and that obviously even you think the game sucks if you're not trying to hype it.
I feel the problem with this kind of behavior is there are no consequences. Granted, we could follow the thread back to the parents but ultimately a person is responsible for their own conduct.
In my opinion, if you want to play a game that does everything that you hoped NMS would do, just buy Starbound. It's $15, has a lot more variety with planet design (It's the only game I know of where you can land on a planet made entirely of flesh and bone, while also taking chip damage from going mentally insane), let's you build settlements and towns that other humans or aliens can live in, has multiplayer, and is easily moddable, so you can add countless hours of extra play time. I've put nearly 40 hours into the game since it came out of Early access a couple weeks ago, and I haven't even come close to beating the campaign (though I will say that the campaign mostly consists of scanning objects to find elemental stones, so I wouldn't recommend trying to make beating it the primary goal).
SpuderrMon Okay, sorry if I sounded a bit angry, but it's just that I find it weird that some people don't like games solely on the base that they are 2D. Whether a game is 2D or 3D doesn't really matter as long as the game is enjoyable.
I liked how Mr. Blue Sky by ELO was playing at around the 10-minute mark in the background during No Man's Sky's critique. Funny and fitting. Good job Mr. Sterling... Good job.
Not Copyright Strike but a Community Guidelines Strike, meaning a bunch of people flase flagged his video out of pure salt. If that happened, Jim would wear that on his sleeve, just like with the DigiHom situation, and mention it whenever he got! "Oh, you ONLY got death threats for your NMS review? Try getting DDoS'd and getting your video flase flagged!"
Why do I get the feeling that if they DID copyright strike it, it would work? Like, with the way TH-cam is I wouldn't be surprised if I or anyone else could just find a random video on youtube of some guy talking into a camera or whatever, claim copyright on it, and have it taken down for a bit.
The movie and music industries are shit and everyone knows this, so the only people dumb enough to have any sort of positive expectations are dumb enough to not realize those expectations weren't met. Book industry, meanwhile, has become too small and quiet to overhype shit up.
Well... not so long ago DC fanboys were pissed at the Suicide Squad reviews. People creating petitions to ban Rotten Tomatoes from the internet. TV is the same thing... Arrow for example. Felicity fans have send hate towards Katie Cassidy because she plays Laurel Lance, originally intended to be Oliver's romantic interest, but they ship Oliver/Felicity. Also they have send hate toward Oliver's actor, Stephen Amell's wife, sending death threats and saying they should divorce, because they want the actors who play Oliver and Felicity to marry in real life. It's a level of crazy you can't imagine. Music I think people more or less accepts everyone likes different things... But also it's so easy to listen to a music yourself, that critics opinions are less relevant. But still you'll find boy band fans sending hate towards people who don't like their favorite band. Books I honestly never saw hate about a review.
I think its mostly unique to video games. Maybe movies at best. Game players immerse themselves in their product, and think of it as a necessary way of life. Music and movie watchers only absorb the content and move on, remembering said media occasionally. I haven't heard of any DT's towards GRRM for the epic wait on the 6th GoT book.
Oh my god, I'm so late watching this video and I wish I watched it last year. Honestly felt like one of the few sane people left as this game literally made people go crazy as you so eloquently said in your intro.
+Dizzy Gear I know man, it looks so stupid but is actually an incredibly well developed game with a good sense of progression and enemy types. Edf is amazing.
I'm neither here nor there over No Man's Sky, but I have to say your words choices and delivery this week were brilliant and there was something almost poetic to the feel of it. I dunno, I just really enjoyed listening to you. I mean I enjoy every week, but there was a little something extra that I can't quite articulate properly that made me enjoy this more than usual.
Every fanbase has shitty fans. Some fanbases have larger proportions, some fanbases have lower lows. Not sure how many No Man's Boys are there, but they're pretty damn vitriolic. I still say NMS looks like a bloated indie game that I'll gladly buy when it's not sixty frigging dollars. It's 3D Starbound and I love Starbound, but that's not an extra $40 worth. EDIT: Gotta love how hilariously large (and most likely played up) Jim Motherfucking Sterling's ego is. So, what, is he a god of snark, video games, criticism and Boglins?
Jeremy Downey Why do you think I added that it was most likely played up? I doubt he's actually that arrogant. Get your stuff together Flim and/or Flam.
Don't compare Space Engineers next to this shit-stain game... The creators of SE, listen to their fanbase and update the game weekly for better quality and less lags. THIS GAME... is just garbage, a freaking piece of crap.
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his Hype?
No, says the Jimquisition man. It belongs to Chungus.
Well, I rejected this answer. I chose the impossible; I chose Reddit.
A website where the shitposter would not fear the ban. Where the conspiracy theorist would not be bound by petty common sense. Where the hyped would not be constrained by the rational. And with the sweat of your Hype, Reddit can become your home website as well.
Would you kindly leave a like.
No, I will not leave a like. A man chooses. A slave obeys.
Would you kindly calm down he was just making a reference, no need to accuse him of stuff he (probably) hasn't done.
Not you sesmi, the unfgaming dude needs to calm down.
You're telling hateful and death threat spouting fanatics to find religion?
That's just bad-news-bears right there Jimmy-boy.
We found Atlas
TALOS WILL GUIDE THEM, TALOS IS THE TRUE SAVIOR
Skyrim belongs to the Nords!
I'm religious and I agree with you.
Well considering most religious people are exactly that I think it's probably the right place for them to be.
It's funny that a game designed to just chill out and relax to has generated so much stress and anger.
the devs shouldn't have lied.
that's why I like this game, it's pretty much just peaceful, the loneliness of space is pretty well simulated here, I remember going to a star system, and I stayed there for 3 days, exploring and mining, Because each planet was different, thats why I liked it
+Hypnotic Synopsis I'm afraid I haven't kept totally up to date with all this, but, out of curiosity, what did they actually lie about? I wasn't aware of any actual lies, just that it wasn't as good as people thought it would be.
KitsyX The devs said in multiplayer interviews that the game was going to have multiplayer. They said that you could fly around with friends. There was pvp and trading. They just said that it would be extremely hard to find one another. 2 streamers went to the same location and couldn't see each other. The game's case even says that it has multiplayer.
SquadPoop those planets are that different from one another. Geography is basically the same from one planet to another. You get a green planet here and an orange planet there.
Never tell a child he wasted 60$
+Nick
Why? Their tears are delicious.
+WackyModder84 Because them tears 2 salty...
I use child tears for lube... it doesn't work...
that was some hard earned allowance money (or maybe not so hard earned, whatever). Who dares to tell them that they should possibly think about not buying into the dishonest press for next month's overhyped indie. They have no sense of money management or better judgement of what's objectively wrong with a game title. They put on such a show to prove to others that they weren't just given the money without any work. So they overcompensate by chopping the heads off of people who do feel genuine disappointment cause they legitimately earned that money. Regardless of, however small, you might think 60$ is in the grand scheme of things.
Now, to be fair, not all indies are overhyped. In fact, quite the opposite: many, many excellent games are left unplayed because the dev didn't/couldn't advertise it enough.
For everyone's reference: this is the exact same phenomenon that lots of other industries use on the regular. It's a tactic that I think is called "identity marketing," which basically involves telling your prospective customers that you're selling them more than a product or a piece of tech. It's a statement about who they are as a person -- they're a gamer, an Apple user, an Intel or AMD owner, a BMW or Audi or Mercedes or Subaru driver, a member of a gym or health club... it goes on and on and on.
Essentially, the tactic boils down to telling people that "When you buy this, you make it part of who you are." And therefore, when anyone questions, criticizes, insults, or even says something not explicitly positive about the thing, people vulnerable to this exploitative anti-consumerist bullshit feel attacked themselves. Because who gives a fuck about human beings when there's money involved?
Reading your comment makes me imagine a horrible future dystopia ruled by corporations where ethnicity or nationality is supplanted by what products you buy
...
At least we'll have driverless cars, probably space colonies too! (Of tbe Weyland-Yutani variety). So that's cool...
For a lot of people, that dystopia is almost a thing. Especially on the internet where nobody knows what you look like.
A remarkably relevant perspective. Deserves a lot more likes... keep 'em coming, people! =D
Well... to be fair, in places like the US, this is already absolutely a reality for very, very many people. Hell, it even extends not just to brands and products, but also to things like opinions - because this whole "BUT MUH IDENTITEH!" thing works just all too damn well on a country that's basically in a cultural and societal midlife crisis and in the process of realizing that a lot of its ideas and ideals are archaic and its citizens ill-treated (read, America).
For those who want to read the comments, I HIGHLY recommend you go in with lots of ammunition, a weeks provisions, a bulletproof vest and a crucifix.
Why a crucifix? huh? HUH? PUNK? WHY A CRUCIFIX? YOU IMPLYING SOMETHING? YOU TRYING TO ASSUME OUR RELIGION? HUH?
On a more seriously note, loved this comment, laughed for a good 30 seconds ^^
dont forget your mining lasers or you cant refill all those nice bars the items have and you have to drop one of the items because inventory is full
oded khazon No no, to kill the vampires with.
Gregthegamer Aren't you thinking of a stake? Or pike? or something? :/ don't remember crucifixes having something to do with vampires :/
I'll get my whiskey.
That death threat literally said No Man's Sky was the only thing the poster lived for.
Bloody fucking hellfire...
The funniest thing about the Facebook pissboy is his veneration of Angry Joe, _Who later ripped apart the game harder than Jim_
Tom Magennis oh wow that's hilarious
Yeah Jim was actually GENTLE in comparison to what Angry Joe did to this game lol
Thats a damn shame right there. Que up the price-is-right loss tune
What's even funnier than that is his veneration of Boogie2988. The fact that Boogie liked the game is this Jackass's "proof" that Jim is a bad reviewer. Like...holy shit remember when people used to respect Booggie2988?! That makes me feel so goddamn ANCIENT
I'm going to comment before the video ends because Jim said not to and I'm an edgy rebel.
Same
u mad bru?
Fucking word nigga. No one tells me what to do. Not only His Divine Excellency Jim Sterling.
I'm My Own Sky, don't tread above my airspace!
+Kek Man I've fucked with our Lord Sterling
On another note, wasn't this the game that months ago people bitched about for costing $60 and are now claiming to be the second coming? Consistency?
I can just see the hate comming if Half life 3 ever releases towards anyone saying they don't like it.
I concur.
or conversely the death threats valve would get if it was anything less than perfect. See: Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 2
At this point I don't think anyone actually cares about hl3
That's why Valve ain't ever making it =p
+frealms well that and the fact they are making insane amounts of money on steam and micro transaction hats
Give NMS a mediocre score: DDOS
Give BOTW a good score: DDOS
Poor Jim.
@Yer Nan yeah. He gave BotW an ABYSMAL, DREADFUL, ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS, 7 out of 10.
Apparently ddos'ing a website is illegal and punishable by a fine of 50,000 dollars.
One Man's Lie
No Man's Price
No Man's Expectations
No Man's PC Specs
No Man's Hype
All Man's Lie
Poor Man's Lie
*No Man's BUY*
No Guy Buy!
Here's a tv that looks like an apple.
So no man boys are just leafy fans?
Detective @OverworldTNTPig on the case confirmed
No, leafy fans are memelords. No man boys are just shitheads.
this sounds much like no man's sky arguments. At least NMS is a harmless game while leafy's entire career is him mocking children and the mentally disabled.
+Makron5 One how many are truly level mentally disabled and two those kids make millions off of horrible music videos paid for by their millionare parents and who don't even bother to buy someone who can write lyrics that are decent and make sense and also refuse to get some auto-tune to fix their horrible singing
What a moronic generalisation.
being a huge fan and supporter of the game from it's announcement and enjoying it since release I thought the ddos attack was a pretty low point. I may not agree with all your views but that's the beauty of life. We all like different things and can have opinions. It makes life interesting
A normal person on the internet. You deserve a like!
Finally, someone who is an NMS fan who gets it.
Agreed. Normal, fully-functional internet dwellers for sanity! Here's my like.
You most have payed it for 20$ right?
get off the internet your to sane and normal to be here. save yourself before you to go bananas.
"No man boys have quickly become perhaps the worst fanbase subset I've ever seen, and that's in a world where Sonic communities exist".
lmfao
As a Sonic fan...
... I agree.
...and we get ALL this again when star citizen comes out.
Star Citizen will be MILLIONS of times worse, imagine Mighty No. 9, but the collective ass pain will make the internet shit its pants for months simply because of the amount of money people have given to it. I honestly can't wait, its gonna make every game controversy from the past 5 year combined look tame in comparison.
+JD “WoolyBug” Wohlever How is it the rich boys space simulator? AFAIK you help crowdfund the game and they give you a ship as a thanks... Like kickstarter but you get the rewards right away.
Hate to break it to you. You can play StarCitizen right now, and it's better than NMS. It has so much built and solid gameplay already, more content already. Done. Smoked. GG.
Also Nicolas, it was $35 dollars for years. Rich boiiiss game.
If Star Citizen sucks, people will know about it. You can play it now, or look up gameplay of it. It's not hidden away like NMS was. Maybe it will suck, but people will know about it in advance. You won't get a massive shitstorm like you have with NMS.
I had a guy named Acriticalhit64 make 5 videos about me, threatening to expose me over Pokemon GO, because I said I personally didn't enjoy Pokemon GO that much.
JIM!!
MINI BOGLINS WTF!?
OH
MY
GOD!
Jim, I always admired you when you brought the Boglin thing to Jimquisition. I'm a 90's kid myself and I've been asking around if any of my childhood friends remembered the Mini Boglins or the big ones. None of them do.
I have plenty of memories playing and collecting them with a good friend of mine but it seems that they were still kinda unknown thing where I lived (Finland), certainly no one had a real name for them. I remember calling them "Snotlings" or just "Goblins".
Later in life I found out their name and remembered that I had a big bag of the mini Boglins stored for memories.
I find it very exhilarating that you bring them up and that one person seems to share my childlike enthusiasm for creepy crawlies, all the things that made Boglins and similar toys cool.
Thanks for bringing those good childhood memories back. I feel that after this Jimquisition this comment section could use some positivity. Please keep us updated on that new Boglin line, interesting stuff.
(Also; I'm thinking about sending you my collection of mini Boglins if you'd be interested. Hope you'll see this comment.)
Thank god for Jim.
Hi Miikka,
Glad you like it. Boglins were my all-time best thing as a kid, and I've been loving turning them into a running goof on the show. So glad it's giving your the good nostalgia vibes, too. :-D
I actually have a Boglinwartch segment planned on the Mini Boglins I ordered recently. It's incomplete so I may very well be interested in help with plugging up any gaps. :-D
#MoreBoglins #BoglinLife
Jim Please tell me you actually finished the game before publishing the review, Or at least did the Altas questline when you told fanboys to "Find Religion"
Because that's exactly what the Altas questline is like, hell Gamespot even said the questline was like finding the meaning of life.
I fear for what sort of Pandora's box you might have inadvertently opened.
Oh man, can I just echo that? I was obsessed with Boglins growing up in Ireland. I wrote essays about them for school, which baffled the teacher when the essay was supposed to be about what it was like to be a Hebrew slave in Egypt or something.
I remember seeing the boglins in their cage like boxes on a ferry to wales and knowing that I HAD TO HAVE ONE. I eventually managed to get one, a glow in the dark one. And I had a baby boglin too, the one that came in the egg. I loved him. And I think I also had a sort of more solid one with a spikey sort of back? I think his eyes popped out or something when you squeezed him.
But what I remember most clearly was saving my "wages" as an altar boy (you got 20p a week from the older priest but if the nicer curate was there he'd give you 50p!) and from weeding the drive or mowing the lawn to slowly, over the course of weeks, save up the money to buy the box of 20 mini boglins that I saw in the toy shop in town. It was battered, old and probably had sat there forever unloved but I fucking loved those little goofy bastards.
From mini-boglins, to Monsters in my Pocket to Warhammer. It's a slippery slope kids. Be careful.
But yeah I love Boglinwatch and seeing it on your lectern thingy makes me want to go hunt them down so much. I even ended up ranting about it to my poor wife.
i enjoyed the atlas dialogue but its not much of a quest.
Thing is, these kinds of people are not at all exclusive to that subset of NMS fans. I'm not even sure these people are actually fans in any traditional way. Because, as you pointed out, if they were they'd be busy playing the game instead of searching the 'net for targets to attack and throw tantrums over.
These people exist for pretty much every single damn topic online--though they do tend to gravitate toward gaming a lot. They see people trying to have a conversation with some critical/analytical depth, and in they jump to yell and scream and break stuff like some two-year-old on bath salts. There are no civil disagreements if they can help it. "I disagree with you, but have enjoyed this discussion" is a thought so foreign to them I doubt they even recognize it.
Hopefully, sometime in the near future, we as a society figure out a way to clear them out, though I'm not sure how. But it'd be nice to see them become a rarity.
You get my like for "two-year old on bath salts." Thank you for that glorious image.
Mal Nexus
Wow, when you put it like that... kinda. Yes. XD
Balls flying or dying ?
I guess extremist(s) or radical(s) could be words that describe something that can't be covered with the term "fan(s)" any more.
As I was listening to it number of Tumblr fandoms came to mind. Sadly this behaviour is not isolated to "boys" only.
It's sad state of affairs when they barge into your fandom and start festering it :/
I adore the guy in the screen grab at 9:05 saying that Angry Joe should be where Jim is because Angry Joe is a *real* reviewer who would obviously love the game.
1) Angry Joe has 4-5 times the subscribers Jim does.
2) Angry Joe tore NMS a new arsehole.
And justifiably so.
With a huge machine gun while wearing sunglasses and chomping on a cigar.
These are the same types of people who likely complained about the new ghostbusters having an all female cast. They're the worst types of hypocrites. They'll shit over anything they dislike, but go forbid anybody do it back to them. They want to be able to scream about "being PC", "censorship" and "safe spaces" but then will immediately do the very things they complain about when it's something they feel threatened by. God forbid you say something critical about what they like.
thanks for making my point.
you are right, they are both the same. critics of a shallow, cheap, lazy and lame product that a company tried to sell people with lies.
Except video games aren't expensive, shitty, sjw propaganda. Oh and you don't to shoot the sentinels' dicks to kill them. Yah that happened in the movie.
Hardly anyone complained about Ghostbusters 2016 having all female cast. The real criticism came from the movie being racist, sexist, full of dull stereotypes, unfunny and poorly written. But of course, why face the truth, when people like you can come up with bogus reasons for everything.
people hated the ghost busters movie because its a cash grab not be cause off an all female cast there are indeed people who do that
but they are a very smal minority
As a Fanboy of No Man's Sky, I completely agree with this video. The immature mindless hordes who let the hype paint impossible pictures of what the game would be in their minds. Need to just chill out and play the fucking game.
BUT I NEED OTHER PEOPLE TO LIKE IT TO VALIDATE MY PURCHASE1!1!1!1!1
+Fabulous Muffin the irony is there are plenty of people who love the game to death (my self included). Yet the NMBs keep doing shit like this.
It's really WEIRD. IF they loved it that much, as the most rabid No Man's Boys that they are, they would probably all be playing the fuck out of the game. Instead they go around the internet, attacking anyone who doesn't share their One True Faith.
I only like the aesthetics of the game, never been interested in it, but I would think if you are a fan and like the thing you would be pretty busy consuming the damn game.
Oh well, have fun Skaianet. The game seems pretty slick and fun if you are into the exploration and survival aspects. ^^
Agree
I think it's fucking garbage after 100 minutes of play. Refunded it and bought actual good games like Prison Architect and Rocket League.
*UNEXPECTEDLY LONG COMMENT ALERT*
Way I see it, the blame for the insane levels of hype and zealotry over this game lies with every party concerned.
The devs for their deliberately obtuse and vague marketing and refusal to actually describe what was in the fucking game. They quite purposefully used vague platitudes and nice-sounding but ultimately meaningless soundbites in a transparent effort to whip up a hype frenzy. It's been explained before by more eloquent people but the intention seems to have been to let people believe the game was more than it was without ever refuting it. Indeed, instead of refuting it with concrete answers, Sean Murray just spewed ever more contradictions and marketing guff.
Blame also lies with the media for writing up every crumb of news as if Yaweh himself had sent down his prophet to bestow upon us his holy will. They knew what they were doing when they wrote about how "amazing" and "show-stealing" it was. I know the media will just pull the whole "not our fault, guv" routine (PC Gamer have already done so) but they're entirely complicit in the hype cycle, as already evidenced by Watch Dogs and Titanfall.
Finally, ultimate blame lies on gamers themselves. Instead of acting rationally and cynically and not allowing themselves to be pulled in by flashy marketing materials *yet a-fucking-gain,* they allowed themselves to fall prey to the hype. They let themselves become the zealous fanboys because they conflate their own identity as a person with the products the enjoy. And that's fine to an extent. It's fine to identify with "gamer" culture or "nerd" culture as long as you also keep a healthy dose of cynicism in your pocket when companies try to exploit that identity and that craving to belong to overhype yet more shite.
At the end of the day, consumers need to be the ones who push back against the hype marketing. As long as they keep falling for it, the media and the game devs will keep pushing it because those cultish fanboys help drive preorders and make money. Consumers need to look at themselves and ask "instead of getting angry at critics when a product is shitty, maybe I should just stop getting invested enough to be angry at all." It'll never happen, but that's the only way the zealotry and hype will stop. But, of course, many consumers are just too fucking thick to have that degree of self-awareness.
*slow clap*
Well said.
I gave that post a thumbs up because it has many words and a lot of common sense.
PS: The words Common sense might hint that it is common but from my observation, more and more often "common" sense is replaced by interpretations of handpicked statistics, simulations with vague preset parameters or hasty collected market expectations (this somehow directs to another topic so I stop here)...
couldn't agree more, in fact we've seen this same attitude spill over into movies and tv shows (DC films, anyone), where it's no longer ok to just like something in and of itself. now some people are so starved for validation that everyone else has to like it and if they don't, they're either an idiot, a hater or somehow paid to dislike the thing.
this inevitably leads to the whole "critics don't know what they're talking about" argument that, again, is indicative of a larger societal problem: the pervasive "i know better than you" mentality that's led to the rise of anti-vaxxers, flat-earthers and chem-trailers who just absolutely refuse to accept widely established fact because it doesn't fit their narrative.
Matt Brown That is a much less waffly and more eloquent way of putting it than me!
To summarise my opinion:
- Overpriced (should have been 15-20 quid)
-Revealed too early and released too early (should have given extra time to implement more features to round out the experience better/more things to purchase, upgrade and build)
- Game exceeds at being a relaxing exploration game with many dull and beautiful sights in equal measure to balance out the feeling of adventure and discovery, and fufills a very much sought after type of experience with it's quiet, relaxing, almost introspective type of gameplay, that has you pretty much playing for the sake of experiencing the worlds and not chasing some xp bar as you play - though you could grind heavily if you wished to as well. Whatever floats your boat.
-It's both receiving justified criticism and unjust at the same time with the sheer amounts of hatred (most likely from those that haven't even played it), as if it was the worst game to ever be made, when in fact it is a game with loads of potential, yet has simply been held back with a stream of bad decisions, both marketing and game design wise.
Those interested should give it a try once it goes on sale, as I truly find it a unique and much needed type of game that was worthy of my time and dare I say - money! It encourages the joy of discovery and exploration for no other reason than the enjoyment of discovery and exploration. Never have I taken soooo many screenshots on PS4 before as I encountered what I consider to be beautiful, strange, almost outright ridiculous sights, whether from the landscapes or flying octopus's in the sky (some of the stuff is surprisingly weird and unexpected.)
squid*
or rent it first
Cool story bud.
Icarus Lives
It's my story based on what I played. But you're right, we should all just dismiss all the positive aspects of something because some guy on the internet can spout redundant and frankly regurgitated three word sentences in order to trick people into thinking you actually have an opinion based on any kind of objective or critical reasoning.
Fuzzy Barbarian
Yeah... I mean it's not like there's hundreds of others giving there opinion of the game on this video either.
Jim, you used my face in the video without my permission. I'm going to have to copyright strike you.
Jim's the Grand Champion. You dirty little turncoat, he owns you.
By Azura!!
BY AZURA BY AZURA BY AZURA!!!
Just when I thought I'd pushed you off that cliff...
i think we ALL killed him long, long ago
The hype culture is a result of all the most prominent marketing encouraging overconsumption. It's the goal to have people like this. It scares me.
what's it like demonizing minorities for no reason like you do all the time on Twitter?
no man's sky has fanboys?
everything have fanboys, now you know.
Even Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric has fanboys. Somehow.
+Phin68 Masochism.
not anymore.
No. He's confusing them with Sony fanboys.
I can deal with everything that's deemed boring in the game. Just flying around space and finding planets that are to scale makes me jizz in my pants over and over. Then again, I've always been amazed and in awe of astronomy for years. So that probably has a huge part in my love for the game.
Agreed the games sounds great to me. I loved elite 2 frontier back in 94. The game looks relaxing and slow paced just like a lot of games were back in 90s amiga era.
I, personally, felt underwhelmed by it. I've seen worse survival games on Stream Greenlight. It looks pretty, I'll give it that. Got to give credit where credit is due.
definitely agree... huge astronomy nut.... simply flying from planet to planet in real time is more than enough for me.... i knew what it was going to be going in, and i feel it was worth it.... was i disappointed that its not everything i hoped? of course.. Would i have wanted multiplayer and better alien AI and Civilizations? absolutely .... there are countless games (that are terrific) that have let me down.... everything from skyrim to minecraft... to pokemon go.... but they're still good fun games and have value ... and who knows maybe they'll keep building upon it until it is mostly everything we hoped for... take minecraft for example.... kinda barebones at first... but now we got multiplayer, advanced pvp servers, better resources, better reasons to get said resources, multiple bosses.. if they just implement the minecraft model into no mans sky, it'll be amazing
And I will tell him I find the game extremely boring and repetitive. But I dont have to be an ass about it, I bet there are many games I love that he finds extremely bad and boring and vice versa. The problem is with anonymity, people think that being anonymous gives them the right to be an ass to anyone. I doubt they threaten anyone for silly things in real life, because you know, they could get hurt...badly.
What a nice comment.
*(doesn't watch the video first)* I dunno if I like that video title, Jim. I get it, but... I dunno, No Man's Hype might be better, maybe? No Man's Expectations? No Man's Wishes?
Everyone's called their articles No Man's Hype. All the general NMS puns have been done.
+Jim Sterling No Man's Why?
+Jim Sterling K then
All Man's Hype, No Man's Fun
(The working title for this episode was ("Fuck Off And Fuck You All" though, so what do I know?)
I found Mr. Blue Sky to be a very appropriate soundtrack for this video.
Good on ya, Jim.
I didn't sing all the way through i would never do that
lol That one guy said he played Shadow of Mordor for 200 hours after his 5th completion, and expects that to help his argument?
Yeah, I didn't think about that. Seems like all that says is that he is aggressively in the comfort zone of sandbox games. And hey, that's fine, got plenty of hours in Warframe and Terraria and whatnot myself. But if we're going to judge whether someone is a "true, real gamer" or some dumb shit, seems like that kind of person should go beyond their comfort zone and try a variety of games. And if the point is that 200 hours is a lot...
Lets see. Spent 1.5k hours on Gmod, 1.1k hours on Terraria, 759 on Warframe... god knows on Minecraft? Like, it doesn't matter, this doesn't prove jack shit, but if you're going to show up to a dick measuring contest with a tic-tac sized penis I am going to make fun of you.
They called it No Man's Sky because there are no one else you can see in game
John Cena's Sky.
I'll go to the shame corner now.
+sofija1996 and don't you come out of there until your attitude adjusts.
Well I've heard it being called No man's buy too
Yes, a primarily singleplayer solitary exploration experience not having a working MP element is SUCH an outrage :^)
+Harry Dresden
Well considering they tried to hype up the multiplayer aspects by saying meeting somebody would be a special event in itself, it sort of is an outrage when those multiplayer aspects don't even work.
Gamers looking for meditative and soothing should just get Viscera Cleanup Detail and Euro Truck Simulator 2, if they don't already have them. As a nice bonus, the two of them combined cost less than No Mans Sky.
I'd add Grow Home
You know, if NMS works for somebody as that meditative and soothing experience, I'd just let them enjoy it.
+RebelWinterwolf - oh, Grow Home was awesome.
+RebelWinterwolf or grow up
+I Hate Everythong Both the game and the actual concept should be tried by the people referred to in the video.
also check out windlands it's a pretty damn chill game
I say we all join together in a class action lawsuit against Jim Sterling for damaging our enjoyment of a boring game.
Nahvec How's he gonna pay out that loot if you kill him?
We don't need him to pay out. Not with all of the easy money I got betting pogs on boglins!
I can tell you're joking.
I remember when I was so excited about my job as videogame reviewer for one small magazine and than website. I wrote about quirky japanese and obscure console games which nobody knew, I had my small pool of readers and even when I criticized something, they knew I am fan as they are and we had interesting discussions about my issues and theyr issues with thar game. Nobody ever wanted my head on silver plate. Than redactor decided that they pay me too much for my contribution and I got more mainstream games on my table. And oh my God's incarnation Jim Sterling, things gone wrong almost inmediatelly. I didn't like very much first Uncharted and Tomb Raider: Underworld, some people had problems with it. I bloody hated Red Alert 3 but I am Red Alert fanboy who played Red Alert 2 competitively and I knew that, so I was very careful to boxed-out my personal feelings from main text and be critical only on technical issues and gameplay. But people were upset anyway. I wasn't found of Mass Effect, I liked first's gameplay and RPG elements but story gone straight through me and people was furious, even more when I criticized Mass Effect 2 for ommiting RPG elements, I liked branching paths and shooting but I was one from only two people in magazine, who didn't make this or Starcraft 2 his The Best Game of 2010 (mine was Atelier Totori: The Adventurer of Arland and the other guy had NHL 11). At that time my Facebook page was overflood by abusive comments and every day some dick send my redactor email about my incompetence and ignorance. And than came Starcraft 2 on my table, magazine did series of articles about that game because everybody was so crazy about it, and everybody from writers must play it and wrote his thing. You guess what, I was indefferent about that game, not even critiquing it that much, I liked Warcraft 3, I played it even online and I think that it holds today as great game, but Starcraft 2... I had some performance issues, people said that my high-end AMD graphics card is shit. I said that gameplay is very solid but I am not found of excessive micromanagement of units because I am AoE and C&C fan, people said that AoE and C&C was always shit and I suck. I criticized only 3 faction when Warcraft 3 had 4, people said that I don't understand the lore of Starcraft and only 3 factions are enough. I finnished campain, I prized it's lenght, diversity of missions and new ideas like crafting new units between missions, but I refused to declare it the best strategy game of all times because this is just ridiculous (I remember when this title has AoE 2, first C&C, Empire Earth, Rise of Nations or Settlers) and people was really, REALLY upset about that. In that time I deleted my Facebook page and change my Google+ account, email of my redactor was full of angry and abusive mails and pressure on me was rising, I was ready to continue my work but magazine was afraid of that kind of backlash, plus they changed owner, and I was fired. 3 years after, magazine was scraped and webpage hanged around another year until was taken down an replaced by celebrity gossip. So, that is why I respect Jim Sterling, TotalBiscuit, AngryJoe and other TH-cam game critique personalities because they are really brave and strong enough to sustain theyr moral and professional integrity and don't let crazed maniacs to get upper hand on them.
Being on the internet has been tough for me lately. I really liked Ghostbusters, and I REALLY like No Man's Sky
Ah my good fellow, it seems you need an internet survival guide, first things first any social media accounts? Delete them! Before they get hacks or spammed with death threats, email? Never check them again. The next step is to lie, a lot say you hate these things and that anyone who loves them are cancers on this world, the more toxic and awful you sound the better your disguise will hold. Finally get yourself a bomb bunker, you can never be to safe!
i thought N.M.S was a bit dull , but that's because i don't like survivel games . i liked the new ghostbusters film aswell ( i am a man if that helps my point =) )
Are you dishing out DDoS attacks or death threats? No? Then grab a drink and kick back mate. You're chill, so enjoy Jim's fun wordplay if nothing else and be on with your merry life. I like you.
I really hated Cashbusters 2016. Does that make me a misogynist now?
Pika Pika! Oh, I'm so lazy I don't wanna google anything. Who's Jeffrey Lesshouse?
You think this is bad? Just wait until Star Citizen comes out (if it comes out).
Oh god please let Star Citizen not fuck it up.
It's already bad because they'll calling anyone who has concerns a Derek Smart supporter.
Ha, this guy still thinks star citizen will ever launch. Face it, you've been suckered.
You know that something's not right when fucking Derek Smart can call out devs on something.
I genuinely want Star Citizen to be bad, out of sheer schadenfreude. It would be fucking beautiful to witness.
I heard about No Man's Sky like a year ago and thought "Huh, looks neat. I'll buy it during a Steam sale."
I had no idea there was some dramatic stuff going on with people on the internet. Didn't know they'd be so easily triggered by a freaking video game.
people were lied to by the devs. $60 is a good piece of money for anyone without a career type job.
Hypnotic Synopsis I'll have to look into it. I'm seeing a lot of stuff from both ends. That devs lied, that fans had unrealistic expectations, etc. Honestly I just wanted a chill space exploration experience. But then again I don't play video games as much as I used to.
Commander_Ninja people would not be as mad as they are if there was actual multiplayer.
Hypnotic Synopsis That doesn't excuse their behavior. This is a feature they wanted but the developers said it wouldn't have. So there's no moral justification.
Commander_Ninja lmao. The devs actually said many times that the game would have multiplayer. They also indicated multiplayer many times. There is never justification that is morally right for someone to send death threats but people have a legitimate reason to be pissed. The devs literally lied to them. The game case even says multiplayer.
The first person to resort to a death threat was the first one to lose the argument.
If the NMS zealot community is as bad as certain Sonic fanbases, then that's terrifying. Don't give in to the hype too much, folks.
...Triangles, don't give sonic team any ideas...
NOH! I HAVE CAME TO LATE!!! I MUST NAOW BECAME MAJUCA! AN SAVE WORLD!!
I am so sorry, I didn't mean to scream, its just...now we gave sonic team something to do again, and I got scared... T-T
+triangles are 2spooky4me I thought Unleashed was pretty good. I just thought Sonic went too fast. Not to mention the hell that is Eggmanland.
*I'm talking about the PS3/360 version.
+triangles are 2spooky4me We don't need another Sonic Boom: Rise of Lyric-style game.
Have you ever dealt with Linux zealots? :shudders:
There was a community before the game came out. There were hardcore death-threats-sending fanboys before the game came out. There wasn't even actual gameplay footage and people were praising No Man's Sky.
I don't fucking get it.
I dare you to try understand xbox fanboys.
I'm one, and while sometimes I do try to defend the indefensible, ie the announcement configuration of the Xbox One, I still hold that it is a perfectly fine console with a more robust online environment than PS4, has games that I, me, myself and other people who are like me, prefer over PS4's exclusive offerings, and is an equal to the PS 4 in every way that matters.
+MrTervehattara theres always dumb fanboys on each console but you can not say that the Xbox fanboys are worse than this games fanbase
Yeah but at least those Xbox fans have an actual object to hold up.... then smash on the floor... but it's still tangible.
Now their obsessed game is out, and it's one big flop. They're salty.
Well, I know you told me to watch the video before writing a comment, but all I can say is that this is gonna be good.
Also, that's an instrumental piano version of Mr Blue Sky in the background to assuage the copyright deadlock, isn't it? Goddamn, I love you, Jim.
Instead of buying this game after seeing how bad it is, I bought the Mass Effects and it's far more fun even if I already played them long ago.
I had that exact same thought when I played it
hahaha...so true.
i finally remembered that series. i couldn't think of the name for the world!
But Seriously! If you had to choose between Mass Effect and No man Sky, which Mass Effect would get?
+Pupixario One. Always one. Although it isn't for everyone
THE age of hype, that is our generation...
True words Kyōko.
yea and the generation that will defend a game even if it releases in a bad condition I can't tell you how many people said at least hello games tried on steam forums it was insane
Well +sheepishgamer, I warn people...they just end up always dying or getting tricked fallowed BY dying horribly.
You made a wish and now you have to live with the consequences. Seeing all your dreams turn to dust, and all the drama unfold. The world breaking around you in a twisted mockery of a reality. Hoping that one day it will all get better, but not really believing it...
It's a lot like playing No Man's Sky, now that I think about it.
well, the moment when a game makes you feel like your PMMM, Tou-fucking-shey:
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Honestly, I kind of feel bad for Hello Games. They made it clear in interviews that they never expected this kind of attention towards NMS, and Sean even said several times that a lot of people could find it pretty disappointing. They were just trying to make another indie game.
And, well, then the game got overhyped to the moon and back, and now they have a toxic fanbase and a legion of haters who either think the game is the equivalent of the Bible or think it's the worst game of the decade for not living up to its extreme overhype. Wonderful.
Same here. They also repeatedly tried to tamp down expectations in interviews. Some of the PR videos yes tried to show the rarer more exciting bits of NMS, but that's what all games try to do. I've been following this game heavily since 2013 and it delivered exactly what I expected so I'm quite happy with it. I think a lot of people just didn't really do their homework
I never even so much as gave NMS any attention until its release date and after seeing gameplay of the final product, then comparing to their 2014 "Gameplay" Video. The hype train was 100% completely their fault. Hello Games should have been more in direct control over what they wanted to make their game to look like in their advertisements, especially Sean. That is what his job as the director should have been.
In the end, his poor mismanagement of the shit show that was NMS just paints Sean to me as another Peter Molyneux who overpromises and underdelivers.
Damion176
Idk, I haven't seen any gameplay videos on it that was incredulous. Again, they showed planets that were more full of life and interesting topography, but it's not like those planets don't exist or are even that rare. I've watchted just about every interview and piece of footage for 3yrs, and I don't see any comparison with Peter Molyneux
Damion176
The only real incredulity was saying you can see other players one time in an interview (I believe it was once). I think they are going to fix that in the next patch and this was in 2014, things change, but still, that was the one thing Sean is on the hook for.
I think it's kind of inevitable when you both vaguely tease people about a colorful wonderland of near-infinite possibility and have Sony's marketing team. Everyone heard about it but there wasn't much information for it, so their imaginations filled in the gaps with the Perfect Game. One of my friends preordered the game because he thought it would be like Destiny but better in every way, and that hasn't panned out. Even my parents knew about this game and were interested in it, and they're certainly not gamers
I came back here after this whole sorry miserable affair began all over again with Breath of the Wild to remind myself how lucky I am that I'm not a petulant little shitbag and for remembering the definition of 'subjective'
WanderingRandomer wanna place your bets on which game is gonna do this again
@@chcc12 Star Citizen.
@@AniGaAG lol Star Citizen is never even going to come out. Its made *hundreds* of *million* off of "CrOwdFuNdiNg" for their shit game. They make far more never releasing it fully than if they kept milking the "fans".
The way you put the Boglins on camera is so funny XD
Star Citizen fans are just as bad, I've seen and had similar reactions to my (very polite) concerns about the game on social media.
I still have a shred of hope for Star Citizen.
the difference is there are star citizen fans who have already invested hundreds if not thousands of dollars into the game so yea they could be potentially worse if shit goes down when it releases
Nothing quite like the righteous anger of the rich boys. (Disclosure, I've spent money on that game but I personally feel no game is worth telling people to kill themselves over)
Yeah, I invested in SC, and as much as I want it to be good, some of the community scares me. Worst case, though, the pledge came with the single-player game too :)
You're not wrong Ben. I'm a Star Cit pledger, I've thrown a good chunk of RL cash into it because I really want it to exist, but I would never dream of raging at someone for disliking the game, or the concept. Fanboy culture is fucking cancerous.
As Yahtzee said, the universe will sooner end then some people will admit they are wrong about heir hype
Ah...back before Jim had to deal with the Zelda fans XD
Gold Medal for ranting! (Jim has a gift...in a good way.)
Damn...and I thought the Undertale and FNAF fandoms were bad...
Playstation's hardcore fanboys are easily the most hostile, toxic and pitiful "communities" in gaming. Even ignoring NMS - did you see how they reacted to that one guy who gave Uncharted 4 a less than stellar review? Disgusting.
Congrats, I never thought that I would agree on someone saying that
Hell, I actually bought into the fandoms before they where 'yuge' as my countries future president will likely keep saying. Mind you, I didn't even realize that they got that bad, I just watched them and liked them (Undertale is a good game, FNAF was at its moment of inception ok-ish...but shitty ME TOO sequels that my fellow students wouldn't stop yapping about until it 'died' are what made me hate it to death...)
That being said, it makes me wonder why of all the goddamn stupid shitty fandoms that have ever been made, Soulsborne fandom seems ever more a shiny nugget of gold. Sure its a bit, harsh, to simplify it, but its far better then any other fandom I can think about...
The fanbase of Undertale is one of the reasons I haven't played it yet.
Every fanbase is bad, pointing out the two obvious options is lazy. Every game I play has a rough fanbase except for a rare few.
this game looked like it was going to be garbage before release so I have no idea how or why anyone at all was hyped...
Cause opinions
Irish Jester
just like how borderlands has "87 bazillion guns" oh wait... no it has like 10 with minor varying stats and none of them are interesting
pretty much, i can only agree with you
+POVgames difference between borderlands and NMS is that borderlands has a good and funny story with cool characters and good action, while NMS, at least in my opinion, has boring action and no real story to speak of.
Some people have small penises...some of them buy big weapons, some of them buy big cars, turns out some of them want big empty games
Thank god for Jim.
Thank you so much.
You had me when I saw the title. I almost didn't have to watch this video because I already knew exactly what's coming. Keep it up man. Cheers from Croatia.
I feel like this happened with Fallout 4.
There was people insisting it was the best game ever and there was people insisting it was the worst game ever and it was unplayably boring.
In my a opinion it was a good game that took some steps in the wrong direction.
the funniest thing about fallout 4 hype is the load of negative reviews on Steam where people who have hundreds upon hundreds of hours of playtime in the game write like ten paragraphs about how awful it is, while most of the positive reviews are short and from people with under a hundred hours.
I really enjoyed it but even I didn't play it much past level 60.
+Pika Pika! Yeah that boggles my mind.
+Pika Pika! I'm glad someone finally noticed this too. Those negative reviews for Fallout 4 are always people who played hundreds of hours. Like, if Fallout 4 is really that bad, then why do you have 350 hours in the game?
It could've been amazing if they actually kept the skill system.
That polygon burn at the end was better than the NMS rant.. But that was on point too!
7:39 "Smooth move, dicks-for-eyes! You sure fucking showed me!"
ROFL so much!
When he uses the term "script kitty" and I get filled with happiness because he knows that term.
Thank you for the Spore comparison. I've been telling people that we already went through this exact same cycle years ago. And of course, thank god for Jim.
ELO blue sky good choice Jim!
I thought my music turned on during the show!
i knew i wouldn't be the only person who heard it.
Holy crap I can't believe I missed that first time, that was really well done!
The sudden introduction of Mr Blue Sky really threw me off from your ravenous rage.
I decided to watch this video while I ate my dinner. Maybe one of the best choices I've made in my life. You're great Jim.
Jim, saving mondays since i dunno whatever, thank you so much
Thank god for our one true lord Jim Fucking Sterling
The bogglin thing at the end made me giggle. I'm gonna get one!
Just heard Mr. Blue Sky playing in the background. Well played, Jim, very well played, sir.
To prevent major hype for my own games (assuming I'm lead game designer by then) I should:
Step 1) Make a reveal/ announcement trailer when game is practically done
Step 2) Reveal release date to be 3-5 weeks near the end of the trailer
Step 3) At the very end of the same trailer announce a playable demo being released as early as the next day
Step 4) Release playable demo as promised
Step 5) Absolute radio silence on social media until the game's release day
Step 6) Release the game on day promised
Step 7) Wait and see for the results
Sounds good, especially the part about a demo release.
How about this:
1. Release the game (3/4 of it) and make no effort to advertise it
2. Do a big trailer/reveal about 3 days later, and put the release date at the end, and put the actual date it was released
3. Now everyone thinks they missed the "big launch" and will scramble to get on board
4. Repeat step 2 once a week for several weeks
5. Release the remaining 1/4 left out of step 1 as a "free expansion due to popular demand"
6. Repeat step 4
There.... You've launched your game with no (noticeable) delays, and the famboys are going crazy... In a good way
I should get paid for this shit
Step 8) Watch game flop miserably because fans WANT to be hyped and WANT to be put on this runaway train and will make and board that train themselves if they have to.
Seriously, if you just don't say anything, fans will bitch you're not communicating and that obviously even you think the game sucks if you're not trying to hype it.
+Generic Internetter That's Strangely genius😉
+Thomas Knapp I'd personally prefer reduced sales than lost trust.
Thank god for JIM STERLING !
I feel the problem with this kind of behavior is there are no consequences. Granted, we could follow the thread back to the parents but ultimately a person is responsible for their own conduct.
6:15, the start of a superb impression of Skeletor! Nice one Jim!
NO NMAMS SKY DOESNT SUCHK DAMN YOUUUUU
DONT YOU UNDESTRAND HOW MUCH YOU HURT ME??? THIS IS GENIUNE SYBERBULLYING!!!
*May contain traces of sarcasm.
hes obviously trolling
No. This is sarcasm mate, not trolling.
Really??? Was this sarcasm??? I couldn't tell...
In my opinion, if you want to play a game that does everything that you hoped NMS would do, just buy Starbound. It's $15, has a lot more variety with planet design (It's the only game I know of where you can land on a planet made entirely of flesh and bone, while also taking chip damage from going mentally insane), let's you build settlements and towns that other humans or aliens can live in, has multiplayer, and is easily moddable, so you can add countless hours of extra play time. I've put nearly 40 hours into the game since it came out of Early access a couple weeks ago, and I haven't even come close to beating the campaign (though I will say that the campaign mostly consists of scanning objects to find elemental stones, so I wouldn't recommend trying to make beating it the primary goal).
Just be mindful that it may be a bit buggy at certain times. It's nothing game breaking, though.
umm yeah, you forget to mention that it's a 2d game
+SpuderrMon and who the fuck cares if it's 2d? what are you, 10 years old?
Iñaki Clacome So you're one of the people Jim was talking about in his video, what a fascinating specimen you are!
SpuderrMon Okay, sorry if I sounded a bit angry, but it's just that I find it weird that some people don't like games solely on the base that they are 2D. Whether a game is 2D or 3D doesn't really matter as long as the game is enjoyable.
Came back here after Jim's BotW debacle.
The hype machine perpetuates infinitely.
I liked how Mr. Blue Sky by ELO was playing at around the 10-minute mark in the background during No Man's Sky's critique. Funny and fitting. Good job Mr. Sterling... Good job.
Thank God for-
0:20
... Okay.
Thank God for Jim Fucking Sterling, Son!
The only way to make this situation more hilarious is if someone decides to copyright takedown the video, further proofing Jim's point.
Not Copyright Strike but a Community Guidelines Strike, meaning a bunch of people flase flagged his video out of pure salt.
If that happened, Jim would wear that on his sleeve, just like with the DigiHom situation, and mention it whenever he got!
"Oh, you ONLY got death threats for your NMS review? Try getting DDoS'd and getting your video flase flagged!"
Why do I get the feeling that if they DID copyright strike it, it would work? Like, with the way TH-cam is I wouldn't be surprised if I or anyone else could just find a random video on youtube of some guy talking into a camera or whatever, claim copyright on it, and have it taken down for a bit.
Well that would be..... crazy
Whew!! I did not know Jimmy was gonna get so scathing in this video! That was impressive. It was also very cathartic!
this is one of the strongest videos you have ever put out.
I wonder if movie, book, music, whatever reviewers have the same sort of problems or is this unique to video games.
The movie and music industries are shit and everyone knows this, so the only people dumb enough to have any sort of positive expectations are dumb enough to not realize those expectations weren't met. Book industry, meanwhile, has become too small and quiet to overhype shit up.
Well... not so long ago DC fanboys were pissed at the Suicide Squad reviews. People creating petitions to ban Rotten Tomatoes from the internet.
TV is the same thing... Arrow for example. Felicity fans have send hate towards Katie Cassidy because she plays Laurel Lance, originally intended to be Oliver's romantic interest, but they ship Oliver/Felicity. Also they have send hate toward Oliver's actor, Stephen Amell's wife, sending death threats and saying they should divorce, because they want the actors who play Oliver and Felicity to marry in real life. It's a level of crazy you can't imagine.
Music I think people more or less accepts everyone likes different things... But also it's so easy to listen to a music yourself, that critics opinions are less relevant. But still you'll find boy band fans sending hate towards people who don't like their favorite band.
Books I honestly never saw hate about a review.
All of a sudden, the Waifuism thread we made on Gigguks channel seems positively thoughtful, enlightened even.
I think its mostly unique to video games. Maybe movies at best. Game players immerse themselves in their product, and think of it as a necessary way of life. Music and movie watchers only absorb the content and move on, remembering said media occasionally. I haven't heard of any DT's towards GRRM for the epic wait on the 6th GoT book.
No, there are village idiots everywhere, but it does seem like video games has the loudest, most retarded, most attention grabbing village idiots.
This video is going to make No Man Sky fanboys cry like an anime fan on prom night
mr blue sky playing in the background of the rant was a nice touch
Oh my god, I'm so late watching this video and I wish I watched it last year. Honestly felt like one of the few sane people left as this game literally made people go crazy as you so eloquently said in your intro.
You didn't like No Man's Sky? WHAT!? I'm going to sit here and do nothing while I respectfully accept your opinion.
Geez, and I thought the Sonic and Undertale fanbases were bad.
Where is the clip of that guy screaming at the concert from? Had me in stitches for a whole 5 minutes
Same here. XD
I've got one word for you that summarizes everything in this entire video.
"HUMANS."
My expectations have never been lower.
i was going to get this game but i got earth defense force instead for some reason, haven't regretted it
A great series
+Dizzy Gear I know man, it looks so stupid but is actually an incredibly well developed game with a good sense of progression and enemy types. Edf is amazing.
REMEMBER YOUR TRAINING!!!!!!!!!! EDF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Came back here after the news about the Cyberpunk 2077 delay. Anybody else think this is where we're heading?
No need to guess anymore. It has, lol
I'm neither here nor there over No Man's Sky, but I have to say your words choices and delivery this week were brilliant and there was something almost poetic to the feel of it. I dunno, I just really enjoyed listening to you. I mean I enjoy every week, but there was a little something extra that I can't quite articulate properly that made me enjoy this more than usual.
At 6:21 I started laughing my ass off because you did the Skeletor voice!! Keep up the good work Jim!! Much love from Cali dude!
9:46
ENOUGH!!!
STOP SHOWING IT
IT DOESEN'T EXIST OKAY?!
Every fanbase has shitty fans. Some fanbases have larger proportions, some fanbases have lower lows. Not sure how many No Man's Boys are there, but they're pretty damn vitriolic.
I still say NMS looks like a bloated indie game that I'll gladly buy when it's not sixty frigging dollars. It's 3D Starbound and I love Starbound, but that's not an extra $40 worth.
EDIT: Gotta love how hilariously large (and most likely played up) Jim Motherfucking Sterling's ego is. So, what, is he a god of snark, video games, criticism and Boglins?
Only boglins.
CaptainDudeMan 45 Yeah, he is a rather small god.
Try Olicity:wheels of hacks I mean arrow. The oliciters are the worst fans of a tv show to date.
He's pretty obviously not serious about worshipping him. It's a joke.
Jeremy Downey Why do you think I added that it was most likely played up? I doubt he's actually that arrogant.
Get your stuff together Flim and/or Flam.
I was kinda expecting a snippet of "Put Your Faith In Me" to start playing at the end.
THE reason I'm on this youtube thing...
Thank you Jim!
"-dishwater lives!"
*lol*
Sean murray just broke peter molyneux's legacy
Grand thief The difference between the two is that molyneux's games where at least okey
i know his games are good but he exaggerated alot about them but comparatively peter molyneux's games were a 100 times better i think than no mans sky
Boglin Watch is something I actually REALLY wanted from this channel. Lets hope masks and pogs get a series too.
2:32 - I could watch this clip over and fucking over LMAO!!!!
So, its Space Engineers without building?
BUT IT BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF PLANETS AND STARS, WOOOAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH.
Well no, not really.
Don't compare Space Engineers next to this shit-stain game...
The creators of SE, listen to their fanbase and update the game weekly for better quality and less lags.
THIS GAME... is just garbage, a freaking piece of crap.
Malcolm Ness Granger You're a little late on the hate train buddy.