Kanye ain’t smart. All the shit he be saying I heard other mf say 100 times. Y’all just worship famous people and eat every word that come out of they mouth. The engineers with a PHD is smart. Kanye hell no
@@MikeOwensMusic_ Before he opened his mouth Kanye had both in fact surpassing even Jay Z. Regardless if there's one guy i can see doing it again its Kanye. Ngl Drake was on his way too but with whats coming out about him he might be done in that regard if it ends up being true
@@MarvoloSalazar fr ion even wanna hate but he not built like that ,all this zesty shi is part of damn midlife crisis , mf approached the critical mass of being corny if that is even possible 🤦🏿
There are levels of course. There is no universe that exists in the multiverse where Jay Z responds to that stupid Anthony Fantano vegan cookie gag the way Drake did.
I’ll never understand why people would rather talk about joes “obsession” with drake than the validity of the points he just made. This is part of the reason we got people yelling hate at everything when really the person is speaking facts.
@fairshareofdrownedsouls which is insane considering everything. But like Joe said in Making A Murderer "..both too big to respond to all I have to say, but still the universe makes it so you come right back to me".
Been sayin this bout drake. U can see right through him. He’s lame, talented yes. But equally as lame. You can see how uncomfortable he is any time u see him.
You mean he’s awkward and corny ???? Ooooh no. The way he’s been his entire career ??? Oooh no 😱 Money cannot unlame you. He’s always been this person, he’s just gotten bigger over time and so more ppl pay attention to him and dissect him more now. Drake has always been the corny nigga in rap who just happened to be the dopest nogga at the same time. His talent is undeniable and there’s nothing no one can say to dispute that. He’s just corny lol that’s always been Drake and he knows that, that’s why his shtick so to speak has always worked and why he’s so marketable.
Everybody has their imperfections. Nobody is perfect. It’s easy to call someone lame when you don’t know them personally and a narrative has been painted.
The fact that lebron is passive aggressive and feels like he has to lie about things like reading The Autobiography of Malcolm X eliminates him from having an alpha mentality.
“It's nuance, but I see hella influence in the way you dress The way you sound, the way you try to move And try to stay abreast on all the latest flows and the latest tones from Generation X Y'all chasing relevance, it's evidenced by the way you step…”
As for me I cook so masterfully ain’t gotta pay a 🧑🍳….like he dissed Drake and Ye off that alone. And dissed Kendrick off the using black conscience topics
Finally i agree with Joe. The Canadian is only perceived as this cool figure or however his fans view him because of his popularity he’s nothing like how he pretends. Seems like a very insecure man who hides behind his money and the groupies who is around him. Reminds me of Ak. A real goofy
And drake been said it it’s a young kid rn who watching my shi n studying to make way better moves then I did n that was kid was me my brother was a teenager showing me that at 13
@@whateverman23 People dislike Floyd because of his personality and the fact he says dumb things like ‘I’m better than Mohammed Ali lol. I don’t like Drake because I think he’s fake. Not everything is because of their success
@@Janszimmer1997 Skill wise Floyd probably is better than Ali. He’s also never lost. He’s beaten all the best during his time. And you don’t know Floyd’s personality. You know his stage persona. People hate Floyd because he beat up everybody and he let them know it.
Yo… these cats are nuts… Jay came up in a totally different time, era etc… Drake is literally operating in the internet era which makes operating in the industry way different from the 90s and 2000s.. Stop Hating Joe!!
Back then was blood sweat and tears. Mfs had to record records in bathrooms, closets , kitchens, living rooms , drug spots etc. This internet music bs is too easy and lazy
Alot of ppl dont really understand why Drake named his album for all the Dogs an who the dogs really is the dogs is the females an what the females like an the era of music rn scary hrs is for the fellas who want the rap
@@CiaraInTheBonusLIVE 1000% bro he definitely has a great 3 album run, doesn’t miss with features, lyricism is out of this world he’s gonna be one of the greats!
@@poetryismyting8854 Every member in Griselda is in their high 30s damn near 40s as well and they’re one of the emcees in the game right now. JID definitely gonna carry the torch
When did the JBP become “The View” for middle aged men who love to hate? I hope I don’t become like that when I start getting up there in age. But this is every 40 year old in the barbershop.
He was never hating. I'm glad Drake's sensitivity got the best of him so now Joe can take the gloves off and give his real takes. Drake gonna be mad regardless so might as well give the fans the real
What kills me is these guys think Drake has so much of an impact on hip-hop it’s ridiculous. This kid is nothing but a popstar. Doesn’t write his own music. He’s not authentic in the rap game.
I can tell a lot of these commenters don’t watch the pod. They not hating they are illustrating what these artist painted for themselves. If you don’t see it you must be blind because a lot of the takes in this vid are spot on.. take your feelings out of it
Drake is not nearly the oldest rapper to collabo with young rappers. Like at all. He given us every form of hip hop at the highest level since 2008. Let him live bro
@@shybonner it is smart business and most of the music when that happens I like it but drake stans want you to believe he’s not benefiting from that it’s only a good look for the new artists
@@coreyjones1440Drake is definitely benefiting. But some of these guys would never even make it out of their city without Drake. And many of them went right back to their city after Drake threw them a lob. That’s on them.
I don't get why they keep talking about Drake if the claim he ain't all, why is it always Drake this Drake that they should talk about who who ever is all that then
Ye and Jay separated themselves by making classic albums. Not because they were your "elders". Drake is the most popular rapper with arguably no classics.
Y’all gonna see im one of the greatest musical angles on earth u gonna see that joe was speaking prophetically he know I’m watching and a few more chosen ones we watching
The "3 body problem" of rap, brake perfectly blended pop and rap so he top 3, but, he will NEVER be #1 because of it ........kdot #1, he stuck to the roots but, never will never be as successful as commercial drake. Pure hip hop is too destructive.
lol nigga no. Drake brought in a whole new sound and wave. That’s why Wayne pushed him cuz he knew. Drakes style and talent is too unique to where he’s just a Robin. Wayne was still going when Drake was climbing Drake was just the new guy. He
People finally realizing what many of us have been saying for 10 to 15 years. All them industry dudes have always known Drake was an insecure, awkward, poser, dweeb; they were just using him, and now that he's all used up... they're jumping ship!!!
@@whateverman23 If you think about, it says the same thing about all of them, and that is what triggers Kendrick to always lash out at Drake... and now Cole for joining the clown show!!!
Homie had his boss leaning on his shouder and flirt with a maried man in front of the whole f***ing world lol. If that was not a Alpha ish in your world, we are not from the same planet
Joe been forecasting Drakes downfall for years it’s starting to sound like a prayer
How TF can drake ever lose joe going crazy
He has made good points about Drakes music. It’s just that he’s the messenger lol
I mean they all fall off eventually except dudes like Jay and 50 cause they move into other lanes
@russellwells9288there’s is no facts everything is subjective because everyone is bias 😂
@@phettywappharmaceuticalsll884250 fell off musically
Fake friends are like shadows: always near you at your brightest moments, but nowhere to be seen at your darkest hour."
Ish hates on Kanye and Joe hates on Drake. Ish thinks he just as smart as Kanye, and Joe knows he's just as corny as Drake. 😂
at least Joe knows it he’s not delusional
Neither one hates on ye or drake, they’re giving their objective views
Kanye ain’t smart. All the shit he be saying I heard other mf say 100 times. Y’all just worship famous people and eat every word that come out of they mouth. The engineers with a PHD is smart. Kanye hell no
Why is it always hate with y’all?
@@jfraz1992That’s shits sounds objective to you? They go out of their way to spin every opinion about them negatively.
What are these guys on about? Drake and Kanye are both bigger than jay z ever was. Their music is aging better too.
But he’s the one with all the money AND the freedom. Kanye & Drake each have one or the other.
@@MikeOwensMusic_ Before he opened his mouth Kanye had both in fact surpassing even Jay Z. Regardless if there's one guy i can see doing it again its Kanye. Ngl Drake was on his way too but with whats coming out about him he might be done in that regard if it ends up being true
@@MarvoloSalazar fr ion even wanna hate but he not built like that ,all this zesty shi is part of damn midlife crisis , mf approached the critical mass of being corny if that is even possible 🤦🏿
Respect is the difference. You can't fake character. People RESPECT a man with character - not clowns, cosplaying (i.e., Drake)
All humans are insecure is what makes you who you are and what you become.
Well said, really wise.
There are levels of course. There is no universe that exists in the multiverse where Jay Z responds to that stupid Anthony Fantano vegan cookie gag the way Drake did.
All humans don't act beta around other men though.
I’ll never understand why people would rather talk about joes “obsession” with drake than the validity of the points he just made. This is part of the reason we got people yelling hate at everything when really the person is speaking facts.
🎯BINGO
Facts
Because he spends his whole life talking about another man
Shit is weird bro
Like why do you give a fuck so much??
Because they’re obsessed with Drake. grown men. Simple.
What facts? Y’all just don’t like Drake. Y’all have been on his meat for years hating.
Brother been Canadian means nothing a real man is a real man period no matter where you are from
agreed
Fact
Agreed so pls explain how the hell drake a real nigga the.
Drake is far from a man. He is a snake boy who is raised by a Jew mother. He is an exceptional actor.
Joe lowkey obsessed with Drake, its kinda obvious
There’s definitely some envy there. In a weird way Budden could have been Drake before Drake.
They obsessed with each other. Drake literally had a random Joe Budden pic as a story and he BEEN a huge Joe Budden fan.
@@johntimothy9757after joes 3rd week speaking together
He has subbed Budden every other year for almost a decade, why are you talking about obsession?
@fairshareofdrownedsouls which is insane considering everything.
But like Joe said in Making A Murderer "..both too big to respond to all I have to say, but still the universe makes it so you come right back to me".
Been sayin this bout drake. U can see right through him. He’s lame, talented yes. But equally as lame. You can see how uncomfortable he is any time u see him.
You mean he’s awkward and corny ???? Ooooh no. The way he’s been his entire career ??? Oooh no 😱 Money cannot unlame you. He’s always been this person, he’s just gotten bigger over time and so more ppl pay attention to him and dissect him more now. Drake has always been the corny nigga in rap who just happened to be the dopest nogga at the same time. His talent is undeniable and there’s nothing no one can say to dispute that. He’s just corny lol that’s always been Drake and he knows that, that’s why his shtick so to speak has always worked and why he’s so marketable.
Everybody has their imperfections. Nobody is perfect. It’s easy to call someone lame when you don’t know them personally and a narrative has been painted.
@@rapversuz He's lame. He likes to argue with women and not challenge men. He's a Beta
@@thelovelylove-sk7oz what if he's helped children with disabilities and saved kids lives will he still be called a lame?
😂😂😂😂😂
Drake is a Beta, but the idea that you have to lock horns with every guy you cross paths with is ridiculous. I got nothing to prove
Jay Z was also 5-10 years older than his “rap peers”
The fact that lebron is passive aggressive and feels like he has to lie about things like reading The Autobiography of Malcolm X eliminates him from having an alpha mentality.
I feel you being bias invalidates your opinion 💀
@@pluto8214based on his comment. What points to him being bias?
@@pluto8214 it’s unfortunate you feel that way.
@@pluto8214 this dude talking like he can prove Lebron didn’t read a book is pure craziness
Joe is a damn prophet!!! He knows what's up...he just not saying it...yet!!
“It's nuance, but I see hella influence in the way you dress
The way you sound, the way you try to move
And try to stay abreast on all the latest flows and the latest tones from Generation X
Y'all chasing relevance, it's evidenced by the way you step…”
As for me I cook so masterfully ain’t gotta pay a 🧑🍳….like he dissed Drake and Ye off that alone. And dissed Kendrick off the using black conscience topics
Song?
This aged like fine wine❤
Finally i agree with Joe. The Canadian is only perceived as this cool figure or however his fans view him because of his popularity he’s nothing like how he pretends. Seems like a very insecure man who hides behind his money and the groupies who is around him. Reminds me of Ak. A real goofy
Joe, you called Lebron and alpha. But he is all smiles at Puff Daddy parties.
This shit sounds like prophecy now
“Chasing a Jay Z acceptance” whaaaat bro
And drake been said it it’s a young kid rn who watching my shi n studying to make way better moves then I did n that was kid was me my brother was a teenager showing me that at 13
I’m not a super big Drake fan but these dudes hate him for his success lol it’s so obvious. The Drake hate and lebron hate is to much lol
It’s part of greatness. People hate it. They get tired of it. They want to see you lose. Think Floyd Mayweather.
@@whateverman23 People dislike Floyd because of his personality and the fact he says dumb things like ‘I’m better than Mohammed Ali lol. I don’t like Drake because I think he’s fake. Not everything is because of their success
@@Janszimmer1997 Skill wise Floyd probably is better than Ali. He’s also never lost. He’s beaten all the best during his time. And you don’t know Floyd’s personality. You know his stage persona. People hate Floyd because he beat up everybody and he let them know it.
Joes use of metaphors really lightens up his approach to this topic 💯
Joe was talking to me when he said there’s someone who’s gonna have a meteoric rise
Talking about other men,business is crazy tbh a podcast on it😮
Algorithms going into overtime putting this on my page after the disses from last night😭🤣
Jay z is my favorite rapper ever, but kanye has surpassed jay z musically
That’s not even the point of what they talking about
@@lulanokonwo6274 that's the point IM talking about. To say Kanye wants to be like Jay Z is crazy. He's surpassed HOV musically.
@@LvUpRED Kanye surpassed everyone musically. He's up there with RZA and Dr.Dre
Facts
Even money wise kanye surpassed jay z
The projection in his analysis us crazy
Great Convo
that bizarre interview w drake and Lebron is a great example of this
Joe can’t wait till the day drake falls off 😂
Joe definitely goin into old grumpy man phase
Is this the Joe Budden podcast or the Drake podcast.
Just listen
Drake is the only relevant Artist to date. They all want a piece of him. From podcast to rappers. His got the magic touch.
He relevant to beta males for sure
This comment aged like milk
Yo… these cats are nuts… Jay came up in a totally different time, era etc… Drake is literally operating in the internet era which makes operating in the industry way different from the 90s and 2000s.. Stop Hating Joe!!
Back then was blood sweat and tears. Mfs had to record records in bathrooms, closets , kitchens, living rooms , drug spots etc. This internet music bs is too easy and lazy
@kickz4theculture997 I hate to be that guy but the word is era.
@@12davetw lol it’s early my guy! Appreciate it…
@kickz4theculture997 It’s all good. Playas fuck up too.
@@strifefresh3998Innovation is supposed to make life easier. How much money have you made off music btw? Since it’s so easy
I could have sworn I saw joe drooling over little fizz
Joe looks like he can walk on water with those shoes.
Are those the Inflatable Fives?
This is crazy when they try to plant seeds in people minds
Joe always talking shit about Drake. I am happy to be a Drake fan because he been legit.
Alot of ppl dont really understand why Drake named his album for all the Dogs an who the dogs really is the dogs is the females an what the females like an the era of music rn scary hrs is for the fellas who want the rap
Oh JID next up y’all can bank yah fucking dollar on that one!
Finally, somebody else that knows that's up
@@CiaraInTheBonusLIVE 1000% bro he definitely has a great 3 album run, doesn’t miss with features, lyricism is out of this world he’s gonna be one of the greats!
You better hope they accept him. JID 36
@@poetryismyting8854 Every member in Griselda is in their high 30s damn near 40s as well and they’re one of the emcees in the game right now. JID definitely gonna carry the torch
He’s gonna continue to do well but he’s not gonna be the next megastar in hip hop
When did the JBP become “The View” for middle aged men who love to hate? I hope I don’t become like that when I start getting up there in age. But this is every 40 year old in the barbershop.
Joe is right when it comes to kanye🎉🎉🎉 he gets it he was in the industry an sees it from that perspective
One day ima figure out what Drake originally did to Joe, for him to be hating nonstop. To then say he isn’t hating at all 😂
He was never hating. I'm glad Drake's sensitivity got the best of him so now Joe can take the gloves off and give his real takes. Drake gonna be mad regardless so might as well give the fans the real
@@allelitememesaem3916 Yup real talk
Drake was fvckin with his girl one time, safe to say everybody’s girl.
@@allelitememesaem3916if he talks about drake he gets views
Honestly this isn’t hate right here. You could tell this if you watched their barbershop episode.
Drake is the corniest rapper/person out there. Also he has the most delusional fans also.
Bro you don’t know the man personally. Are you a Kendrick fan?
Artist of the decade idk bro
Idk i think em fans are the most delusional then drake then yb
What kills me is these guys think Drake has so much of an impact on hip-hop it’s ridiculous. This kid is nothing but a popstar. Doesn’t write his own music. He’s not authentic in the rap game.
False.
I can tell a lot of these commenters don’t watch the pod. They not hating they are illustrating what these artist painted for themselves. If you don’t see it you must be blind because a lot of the takes in this vid are spot on.. take your feelings out of it
Joe is talking talking.
Chatting to the maximum, but drake is timid and soft asl
What episode is this?
Drake is not nearly the oldest rapper to collabo with young rappers. Like at all. He given us every form of hip hop at the highest level since 2008. Let him live bro
Bro it’s like at least 15 examples of when artists first catch they buzz and fire and they have the streets here come drake on a remix
@@coreyjones1440you do know when your hot people remix your songs right ??? Bosman dlow has how many niggas doing his remix ???
@@coreyjones1440 smart business
@@shybonner it is smart business and most of the music when that happens I like it but drake stans want you to believe he’s not benefiting from that it’s only a good look for the new artists
@@coreyjones1440Drake is definitely benefiting. But some of these guys would never even make it out of their city without Drake. And many of them went right back to their city after Drake threw them a lob. That’s on them.
Kanye surpassed Jayz
This is real hate
Kanye like 10yrs older then drake of course drake is a peer and Kanye is an OG to them😂😂
I don't get why they keep talking about Drake if the claim he ain't all, why is it always Drake this Drake that they should talk about who who ever is all that then
Does a podcast end without Ish mentioning Jay Z?
Joe gotta let this obsession with drake go😂😂😂 Shit gets weird after awhile and has you pulling shit outta thin air
maybe i’m tweaking but the dude next to joe don’t add nun to this podcast
Flip? Yes he does what are you talking about he clearly does that’s why he’s here
@@lulanokonwo6274 what does he add to you
crazy how this man is making a living talkin about other men
Lol the labels will create another drake like they did before
Alot of people have fake confidence then exposed when someone is truly dominate
Facts. Crazy thing is I’ve heard stories of Lebron folding as well.
yall on here just writing fan fioc thjeories about the behviour of people you dont know. Weird.
Sounds like you speaking from experience
@@theexclusiveeditionstop believing everything you see on the internet because you like the man
@@tomperry5947 pure crazyness
drake fans are annoying but avid drake haters are considerably worse
The difference btwn jay z n drake is hov became owner of label so his presentation has to be different drake issa rapper lover boy actor
Joes spent his whole career trying to be accepted
Ye and Jay separated themselves by making classic albums. Not because they were your "elders". Drake is the most popular rapper with arguably no classics.
Y’all gonna see im one of the greatest musical angles on earth u gonna see that joe was speaking prophetically he know I’m watching and a few more chosen ones we watching
But wasnt joe timid in not wanting to talk about diddy when everything first started with the cassie allegations? So..........
Joe Budden one of the only ones left with respectable and great commentary on hip hop worth hearing
Even with curry some years back, drake gets weak at the knees around the nba guys
Joe a Drake groupie that wished he would take him back to his pad
The "3 body problem" of rap, brake perfectly blended pop and rap so he top 3, but, he will NEVER be #1 because of it ........kdot #1, he stuck to the roots but, never will never be as successful as commercial drake. Pure hip hop is too destructive.
Drake makes better music than Dot
@@lindokuhlehlophe2837way better music.. im tired of this fake ass Kendrick love man lol
no he doesnt@@lindokuhlehlophe2837
More drake hate lol i ain’t even no big drake fan but cmon man . That paragraph really hurt Joe
😂
Joe shut up you have charles white who is late 40 hanging out with 20yr adin ross... shut up
"Naming the album the fall off is pretty ironic cuz it aint no fall off wit me"
Was a shot at DRAKE.
No it wasn’t. You’d love that though.
You reachin w that 😂
He was also talking to him on that yachty feature. Lol
@@whateverman23 what would be to love about it?
@Jay62812 possibly. But why is drake exempt?
If Wayne would've keept going it would be like drake is Robin
lol nigga no. Drake brought in a whole new sound and wave. That’s why Wayne pushed him cuz he knew. Drakes style and talent is too unique to where he’s just a Robin. Wayne was still going when Drake was climbing Drake was just the new guy. He
What that gotta do with drake authenticity? Drake been riding waves
People finally realizing what many of us have been saying for 10 to 15 years.
All them industry dudes have always known Drake was an insecure, awkward, poser, dweeb; they were just using him, and now that he's all used up... they're jumping ship!!!
I think that says more about them than Drake because that shit sounds lame. But hey, I guess you can’t trust anyone.
@@whateverman23 If you think about, it says the same thing about all of them, and that is what triggers Kendrick to always lash out at Drake... and now Cole for joining the clown show!!!
If u guys think someone will ever do what he just did in this genre U guys are fools.
Yol be saying anything in these comments
Drake goes so hard at people pause because he’s so sensitive
It’s me I’m the Luka I’ll be up next
All you should listen to Joe because he knows what he’s saying Drake is a Budden with money they both weird af
Who's Joe budden
Watch that video where dude touched Drake watch. You see him looks quite concerning.
Drake is first an actor then a rapper lets not forget
Don't forget he is also from Canada. He work is ass off to be there
"Hov did it" 👴🏾
Ish brought JayZ in this convo and confused the topic
His shoulders must hurt bc he’s reaching.
Bruh a dude said this and I’m starting to agree us maes are starting to turn into some chatty patty’s like women…wtf is this topic?
Just make up anything Joe🙄🙄🙄 cause no one else had issues in the rap game. Shit kanye acted the same way around Jay for years. 🙄🙄🙄
Yeeeaaa but Lebron is not an alpha. He tall and rich but not an alpha
Bron don't give alpha male
A 6’9 260 pound super athlete who is still better than 90% of the league at damn near 40? That motherfucker is basically a super hero.
Why Jay is overrated in America?
Joe be on point lol I know Drake be punching air when he speaks on him
This is hate.
This is major 🧢. EVERYONE knows Lebron is a Beta
Damn, found a lebron hater lol, in the comments,
I agree
We have not seen a Drake before in rap. And I dont even listen to his music like that.
Crying about other man
This guy do talk a lot of nonsense
Bron isn’t an alpha male. Joe’s off base there.
To Drake…yes he is fam. Stop it.
Yes he is
Tooooo early to be lyin AND hatin...
I'm extremely far from being a Lebron fan but if he isn't an alpha make then alpha males don't exist
Homie had his boss leaning on his shouder and flirt with a maried man in front of the whole f***ing world lol. If that was not a Alpha ish in your world, we are not from the same planet