April 6 - The serial secret husband
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- The Secret Marriages and Intrigues of Edward Seymour, 1st Earl of Hertford
Join me as I delve into the intriguing life of Edward Seymour, the 1st Earl of Hertford, whose clandestine marriages and royal connections made him a figure of fascination and controversy in Tudor England.
Discover the clandestine affairs of Edward Seymour, born in 1539 as the son of Edward Seymour, Duke of Somerset, and Anne Stanhope. Explore how his early years were marked by political upheaval, including his father's fall from power and execution, leading to Edward's own struggles for legitimacy and recognition.
Uncover the sensational scandal of Edward's secret marriage to Lady Katherine Grey, sister of Lady Jane Grey and a potential claimant to the English throne. Learn about their imprisonment in the Tower of London, the birth of their illegitimate son, and the subsequent annulment of their marriage by ecclesiastical authorities.
Delve into Edward's subsequent marriages to Frances Howard and Frances Prannell, both shrouded in secrecy and controversy. Explore his complex relationships with his children, including his eldest son's clandestine marriage and his grandson's ill-fated union with Lady Arabella Stuart.
Follow Edward's political fortunes as he navigates the courts of Elizabeth I and James I, gaining favour and influence despite his turbulent personal life. Learn about his patronage of the arts and his role as a steward of royal revenues, as well as his enduring legacy as a figure of intrigue in English history.
Join me as I unravel the mysteries surrounding Edward Seymour, Earl of Hertford, and explore the hidden secrets of Tudor nobility. Click to watch now and uncover the untold story of one of England's most enigmatic figures. #TudorHistory #EdwardSeymour #SecretMarriages 🏰👑🔍
Also on this day in Tudor history, 6th April 1590, Queen Elizabeth I’s diplomat, secretary, adviser and spymaster, Sir Francis Walsingham, died. Find out more about the man Elizabeth called her “moor” in last year’s video - • April 6 - Sir Francis ...
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Claire, could you go into detail about Tudor “house arrest”? I apologize if you have, but I think it would be really interesting to hear about it...and if there was much difference between the experience for men and women. Thanks!
I think it's the same as today in that a person is confined to a certain property, and might also have someone acting as a gaoler/supervisor. They weren't confined to one room/cell but they didn't have the freedom of leaving the property.
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Great question
Thanks so much for these videos!! It’s keeping all of us sane in a crazy time!
It's keeping me sane carrying on as normal too. Thank you!
With all these secret marriages I’m amazed he lived to 81!
💖👑👑💖xx he lived a very long life good age 82. He loved his secret weddings😁
And we thought Henry was the only one who made a total joke of marriage and family!
"So what did you name the baby?" "Edward" "After which Edward?" "ALL of them!" Thank you Claire. Looks like you hd a beautiful day in the sun.
It was so lovely feeling the sun on my face.
@@anneboleynfiles same here in southern New England!! I'm taking a break from yard work with you 😊. Its in the 70s in the sun and wonderful
How interesting.... Sad that they never saw each other again
Amazing turns of fortune in the life of this Tudor man! Amazing that he lived until the age of 81!
Crazy life. It's hard to imagine being a ward of the crown, invalidated marriage and being in the tower of London.
Thank you
All those secret marriages! Thanks for the video and the lovely, sunny scenery.
Just subscribed, really enjoy your content.
Be well, safe to all.
From Colorado Springs, CO., USA.
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That's a lot of secret marriages. It's kind of funny.
Adequately named “serial secret husband”. Love his portrait, he has a certain look (giggle)
I'm so happy that you're sitting in the sun, with fresh air. I've been worried about you, but everyday, through your videos, I know you're ok. Much love and wellness for you, Clare 💛💫
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I always look forward to your videos. Thank you for taking the time to do them. :)
My pleasure!
Tomorrow, after I've had a cuppa coffee, I'm going to make a chart with all the secret marriages and imprisonments in the Tower. Right now (midnight) my head is spinning!
That would be an interesting chart!
Gosh it would be incredible if you may be willing to share 😁
Great video Claire. I will have to rewatch this video several times to keep up with the number of secret weddings. You look great in the sunshine ☀️
Hearing that he married Frankie Howerd cheered up my day no end.
Edward Seymour sounds like an interesting man.
Three marriages all secret, maybe he enjoyed the “drama” of a secret marriage?
I didn’t realise Catherine Grey and Seymour’s marriage was deemed void.
It’s sad Catherine died without seeing her husband again.
How hypocritical that he has his eldest son arrested due to the son’s secret marriage. I’m glad Elizabeth I sided with the son and allowed the marriage.
Interesting that he supported James VI’s right to the throne upon Elizabeth I’s death rather than his eldest son’s claim.
How many generations of this family/bloodline had secret marriages?
It’s sad that his grandson’s wife (another secret marriage) died in the tower.
Thank you for another awesome video. It was nice to see outside. I hope you enjoy the fresh air.
Can’t wait to see what tomorrow’s video brings!
I'm so glad you enjoyed my video.
I knew all about his relationship with Katherine Grey, but I had no idea about his other ones and about those of his son and grandson.
Thank you.
I believe it's through this line, Seymour/Grey, that Queen Elizabeth II, through her mother, is descended from Mary Tudor, sister of Henry VIII and Queen of France for a few months.
The relationship between Edward Seymour and Catherine Grey would make a great subject for a movie.
It would also make a fantastic opera! I just recently finished Hester W. Chapman's account of Lady Katherine Grey in her book "Two Tudor Portraits" and all the ingredients are there for a grand opera (and a great movie, as you say!) and a great TV miniseries. There is a historical novel as well, "Three Maids for a Crown" by Ella March Chase (2011), about all three Grey sisters; it tells the story of Katherine Grey and Edward Seymour.
Patricia Hayes I wonder what Shakespeare would have done with their story. It’s possible he pondered writing a play about it but it would be too politically charges a subject to consider seriously.
@@januarysson5633 I agree with you there. Elizabeth Tudor disliked the Grey family (they considered her socially inferior to them), and she certainly would not have liked being reminded of Katherine Grey's and Mary Grey's secret marriages because those two girls were next in line for the throne. So Shakespeare would have been putting himself at risk if he had written about the two surviving Grey sisters.
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Love the sunny day, the breeze and the juicy details. We all live vicariously so film more outside when the spirit so moves you.
I just needed to get some fresh air and sunshine. It's been raining for the past few weeks non-stop and so we haven't been able to get onto our roof until now. It was so lovely to get out.
Thank you once again for highlighting a lesser known Tudor character. I agree, the repetitive names and multiple secret marriages would drive a historian or genealogist crazy! ... It was nice to see a change of scenery. I am glad you got to enjoy the sun. Here in Arizona, we went from needing the furnace on Monday, to switching to the air conditioner on Wednesday. Thanks again. Be well and be blessed ❤
It's been like that here too. We've had non-stop rain and it's been chilly, and now it's lovely. Take care x
This dude was no stranger to trouble! Good grief!! Homie never seemed to learn, did he? As everyone else is saying in the comments it is a great feet to have lived so longer in such a time but also it is rather surprising with all the legal issues he had. Why did Queen Elizabeth I and her council continue to allow him to go free or be on house arrest? Why not keep this marriage mischievous man locked away in the Tower?
Always interesting historical views . Thanks.
Your hair looks really cute. It always does but really nice in the sun.
Oh thank you!
What’s with secret marriages back then? Even Henry VIII had a couple. And wasn’t Raleigh secretly married, as well? Did Edward and Elizabeth begin this trend?
Henry VIII's was due to the fact that he was still married to Catherine of Aragon in the pope's eyes, and those of a lot of his courtiers.
You had to get themonarch's permission to marry if you were in an important position, related to the monarch or one of his/her servants, and obviously the monarch could say no, which is why people risked marrying without permission. Of course, that could get you into big trouble, or you might have to pay a big fine, or lose favour for a time.
Mary Tudor married Charles Brandon in 1515 without Henry VIII's permission, and then there are Lady Margaret Douglas and her secret betrothals.
@@anneboleynfiles oooohhh that answers some of my questions!! 😁
Well we know what his favorite pastime was.
Was hoping to hear about the earthquake (6th April 1580 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1580_Dover_Straits_earthquake) - one for next year maybe. Thanks as usual for excellent and entertaining stories from Tudor times and characters.
Claire, good on you, calling Edward Seymour and his sons hypocrites. They were! Besides, I’m tired of hearing about the Tudor men, like Henry, killing their wives for flirting or even committing infidelity with other men, when they were themselves committing multiple infidelities. “Treason!” Henry cried! As Katherine Hepburn argued in Adam’s Rib.
Hi Claure a few questions on secret marriage: Was this felt to be necessary? If so, why? Was it because if they asked it wouldn't be approved? Did everyone actually have to obtain permission to marry? Who was it secret from, the Crown or everyone? Were secret marriages common? And if found out this was treasonous? SO sorry!! Once I began the questions kept coming to mind. See you in July, God and the Queen willing!! 🤣😷✈
In a life full of achievements, wisdom and courage, Elizabeth's treatment of her cousins Katherine and Mary Grey does her no credit. She was cruel to these 2 young women who she saw as potential threats for no other reason than their blood. Being a Tudor heir was a dangerous thing!
It seems pretty clear that Elizabeth I had real antipathy towards her Grey cousins. Why do you think this was? Was it a function of Jane Grey’s assumption of the royal title in 1553 which affected Elizabeth just as much as her half sister Mary? Perhaps it was personal? Or a bit of both?
Secret marriage would mean that all these couples wouldn’t live together? And how long this would last? And all the pregnancies would be kept secret? 🤔🤔🤔
You might not live with your spouse anyway if they were serving the queen at court, but you could have secret conjugal meetings with them. If you were one of the queen's ladies at court, your pregnant state would become clear late on, but if the wife was away from court then it was possible to keep the baby secret for a time.
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Mess with whatever you need to, darlin', what we're concerned with is hearing your wealth of knowledge about this incredible dynasty. Glad you got outside!
Holy cow! That is rather "funny". Not sure that's the right word, but that many secret marriages in one family.
What did Hapen to Thomas Seymour the Younger, second son of Edward?
This is a horrible story! Babies born in the Tower of London, parents imprisoned, never seeing ones spouse again. What a story.
Poor man! Imagine dying through no fault o& your own due the actions of other rebels ☹️
Thanks Claire. He was in his 60s and married a 22yr old? . You can be sure, then as now if a 64 yrs. Old woman marries a 22yr old man; she would be called all sorts of nasty names. But marrying who could be your grandfather is quite alright. Ugh.🙄
annette fournier this bothers me so much. An older woman can’t marry a younger man but it okay for a man to marry a younger woman.
Yes, it's weird how society accepts it one way round but feels it's weird the other way round. In those days, it wasn't at all abnormal for an older man to have a young wife. It would have been seen as good for the woman as the man was in a position to look after her well, and she was young enough to have the potential of giving him a number of children.
@@anneboleynfiles Yes and they would have a built in nurse maid to take care of them in their old age as well. I know even in my mother's generation it was a common practice with eastern European men to marry a girl 20 years their junior for this purpose. My mother found this repugnant but her sister carried on the tradition.😉
Secret or strange Marriages seems to be a speciality for the Tudor Jet Set.
My birthday video. 😂
I wonder why he kept marrying in secret? Was the Queen jealous? It's all so absurd, imo, but I supposed marriage was a political thing. Not many marriages for love.
Thank you, Claire.
My guess that it was political because of the claim to the throne. That would make the queen nervous, in my opinion.
@@Bildgesmythe You're probably right. Makes sense.
Katherine Grey was a claimant so could only marry with the queen's permission, plus the queen would have expected to arrange a match for her. And also servants of the queen and important courtiers were expected to get her permission to marry. It was the done thing. The monarch controlled his/her court.
@@anneboleynfiles You really had to kiss her butt if you wanted something, I guess. It that a perk? lol!!
I'm too distracted by those really cool plants behind you!
There are lots of aloes on the mountainside, and rather a lot of weeds too. They've gone mad in the rain.
Please, no apologies needed! To see the wind whip your hair and your notes around while I'm cooped up due to COVID-19 shelter-in-place orders makes me feel wistful for days spent in the sun. And who doesn't love a cat cameo? Thank you for another interesting video!
This was the first time I've been outside in three weeks so it was lovely to feel the sun on my face and breeze in my hair. Are you able to get onto a balcony or a bit of garden at all?
@@anneboleynfiles Yes, I'm able to go for walks but I have to time them strategically because I have a funny "problem" to contend with. I teach young children, and if they see me outside they run to me and want to hug me...and I feel horrible to have to deny them. So I can't sit on a park bench, or on my porch, not even on the terrace where they can see me. The other day I was filling the bird feeders and watering the plants and I turned around to 3 kids, gathered at street level below my deck, serenading me! I know, what a terrible thing, to be loved by children...we ALL are desperate to go back to school. :-) :-) :-)
So interesting that being married secretly was so common during that time. Based on your post there seems to definitely be “shady” intentions involved. Or perhaps a lack of freedom to do what one pleases. History is so interesting. Thank you for your daily posts!
You had to get the queen's permission if you were in an important position, related to the monarch or one of her servants, and obviously she could say no, which is why people risked marrying without her say-so. Of course, that could get you into big trouble, or you might have to pay a big fine, or lose her favour for a time.
The Anne Boleyn Files and Tudor Society Oh I see! Japanese culture used to be like that!
Qui bono? Why the pattern of secrecy if it usually involved the consequence of tower arrest? There must have been some semblance of perceived advantage early on. Wonder what it might have been. Thank you Claire...the sunshine looks good on you. ❤️
Thank you! I think in this case it was love. Although a Seymour marrying a claimant might look like ambition, which Elizabeth i would have seen it as, the fact that they risked further trouble, and perhaps even their heads, with their conjugal visits suggests that they truly loved each other.
"She was 22 and he was in his early 60s." A man after my own heart!
Ohh yeah another Elizabeth excuser, how interesting