From Ironclad to Artifact: The Journey of the CSS Georgia
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- In 2017, archaeologists raised the last pieces of the unusual Civil War ironclad warship CSS Georgia, which was built with money raised by Georgia's women, and sunk by its own crew to keep it out of enemy hands in December 1864. The forgotten was discovered by accident in 1968 when a dredge struck the wreck, adjacent to Old Fort Jackson.
In this hour-long documentary, filmmaker Michael Jordan, who authored a masters thesis on the Georgia, documents the ship's construction, deployment, and discovery, as well as fifty years of archaeological study and recovery.
This is the official U.S.Army Corps of Engineers documentary on the Georgia, which was raised as part of the Savannah Harbor Expansion (deepening) Project.
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Outstanding production! Thank you to all who lovingly toiled in this recovery. I'm a sentimental old fool and came to tears as many of the artifacts came to the surface for the first time since '64 (1864). I'm a retired Park Ranger and living historian taking the story of the Civil War to reeanctments and schools throughout Central California. I wear both grey and blue uniforms. A local high school Naval Junior Reserve Officer Training Command is getting back up and running with 150 Cadets as of last Monday. They are requesting all manner of new programming and I promised them a series of presentations about the US and CS Navies and Marines. This video is safely stored in my computer for the development of my new program. Thank you all, again.
Don't come to New Orleans. Landrieu took it all down. I know, pathetic right?
@@gphilipc2031 No.
@@juri_xiii9977 That you ML?
Thats an impressive c.v Sir.
@Don't Shoot toilet. Hehe
Interlock rail irons was a brilliant idea!
So true, when they said they used Rails i thought, no way, it was smooth looking. But when they showed how, WOW. Works perfectly
Yh thats some British ingenuity thinking.
It's hard to believe the ship could still float with that much iron on it!
@9600GTMAN Guess you weren't paying attention when they stated because of the blockade, Savannah did not have access to the iron plate like was used on the CSS Virginia. They made due with what they had. I would have liked to see a comparison between the railroad rails vs iron plate; I bet the railroad rails would have been more effective.
@9600GTMAN I'll bet your a fucking Yankee😭😃
That Native American pottery fragment was a neat unintended find.
The propeller hasn't seen daylight since the Georgia's launch...not since her sinking. Just saying. Great documentary, thanks for sharing.
Most ships were put in dry dock for repairs,within weeks for recaulking
I was thinking exactly the same thing. When I watched
That depends on how it sunk.
Wild thought man interesting 🤔
So very true....it’s the details folks...
I was fascinated by these ships when I was young. They looked so futuristic and different to regular warships. Especially the Monitor and Merrimack of course.
Thx for sharing.
Best show on css Georgia to date.... looking forward to seeeing it all displayed, along with her casemate pieces.... get them all preserved and not left behind in the mud.
Who disliked this why would someone dislike I don't understand
Like it or not, CSS Georgia did its job.
You really have to give credit, where it is due.
I salute the designers, officers and men of that ship.
To this day; they shall not pass...
The North may have won but...
CSS Georgia won't surrender.
Well done, you Georgia ladies..
Well they did die, so technically speaking, to this day they very much did pass.
Ironfact to articlad: The reenactments were superbly done by professional actors who obviously studied their lines after taking 3rd grade acting classes.. I felt like i was bacl in 2004 when they shot it... bravo 👏
Very well done documentary. Lots of information. I really loved seeing the brass cannon sights. They were like new.
Great documentary, but the re-enactments were Painful to watch.
Yes, I agree, especially that screeching female yelling "fire" at the end. Why do they have to ruin everything with (PC) women reenacting the roles of men in our past!?
That was a guy.
Yea I don't think there were any fat ass 60 year old men on the CSS Georgia.
that was probably a female park ranger and they had to allow her to play with the boys. That was a woman.
I'm fairly certain it wasn't a bunch of 6 year olds
I found it fantastic that they raised this Ironclad I hope they put it on display for all to visit and see a part of history
It's frustrating how many times search/recovery efforts were stopped/reduced due to it's cost... This is history people...
Agree 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍they do recover stuff much less as important for alot more dollars
I love the low budget dramatizations
I saw the USS Cairo a few years ago and it was amazing and surreal to walk around the Ironclad. I believe that the CSS Georgia should be kept in Savanna and the artifacts should be kept together. I really enjoyed watching and hope one day I can visit the CSS Georgia in Savanna. I've been to Savanna and love the historic area.
Everyone that worked on recovering what they can did an amazing job. It was sad to see the pieces being places back into the river, but also I fully understand why.
It was amazing what they built back then, I knew about the Civil War, I didn't grow up in America, but never knew they had war ships, Ironclads. It blow my mind when I first heard about it.
Wonderful Documentary and I really enjoyed watching the journey of recovering CSS Georgia.
Awe, shucks, Glen thanks! 😂👍
I musthave missed why they have to put artifacts back in the water after bringing them up. Weird. Is it because like the Titanic. It.s like a tomb?
@@paulkoester9242 but they brought the god damn ship up!
I am so glad to see the collective effort to preserve important parts of our history. I think this was a great accomplishment in technology when it was developed.
Really enjoyed this. Thank you. To be honest I thought I would watch the first 10 minutes on the history of the build and service and then leave when the ego stroking "look how we saved this boat" recovery potion took over .But no ! I found a well produced informative doco till the end ,with some very dedicated people who toiled for over 40+ years ,Kudos to you all .
the broom at the masthead goes back to 1652 after the battle of Dungeness in the Anglo Dutch wars glad to see the tradition still being carried out
Interestingly, barely three decades after the CSS Georgia existed, the US Navy would order a new battleship, the USS Georgia. She was one of those funky old pre-WW1 battleships, shorter and slower than a typical WW2 cruiser. Life for enlisted men aboard ships like this must have been hell.
hey at least that 1 floated.(without pumps)
@@mustbtrouble And the other one can sink on command too (Its a submarine)
What a great doco
You can see why it wouldn’t drive through the water
I am surprised it even floated at all 👍👍
Thank you for this great documentation! We have a cannon ball we placed in our local museum we did electrolysis on it to clean it.
These types of historical hidden gems need to be published a little more for future generations rather than just being in a obscure Library
Wow this is amazing. When they described how hot it could be in the middle of summer, for a moment I felt the heat all around my body and I feel for those men aboard that vessel. Also bringing up a loaded cannon that's crazy but interesting. Keep history alive so we never repeat the same mistakes as those before us.
Georgia's always on my mind, thanks for broadcasting this
I clicked on this by accident and it was one of the better shows I've seen in a long time thank you, and I also would really like to see a video on the deactivation of one of the cannons when they removed the projectile
This is the most exciting marine archaeological documentary I've seen in a long time.
Just finished the War memoirs of US Grant, including a small part of this action as well as the Georgia campaign as a whole.A brilliant mind.A great read.I am not American and don't know anything about the war,but you get a great sense of the state of the union before and after the conflict.
Excelent , well made . Very informative. She was a poorly built tub from inception , as seaworthy as a brick. Yet was at the cutting edge of the technology of the day.
EVERARD PISSWIDDLE she wasn’t exactly ‘cutting edge technology’ if you want to see that have a look at HMS Warrior which still exists (from that period) and has been restored, she is enormous by 19th century standards and can be found in Portsmouth England within sight of HMS Victory an 18th century warship.
@@pcka12 The HMS Warrior does not have sloped armor. The Georgia did.
@@mikewhalen8020 no her armour is not sloped, whilst sloped armour appeared on mid 20th century tanks, 'tumblehome' on ships gradually disappeared as a feature on warships in the nineteenth century as metal protective belts took over from those compose entirely of wood (part of the 'armour' of Warrior remains wood)
The artifacts should remain together to tell the complete story of the ship, not brief glances but a full view of this part of history!
one of the most interesting history videos I have ever seen.
I live in Kinston NC where the remains of the C.S.S. Neuse were raised in 1963 and are on display. The C.S.S. Neuse is what you see in the video at 55:40, and is in an indoor climate controlled museum to prevent further deterioration. The ship was previously at an outdoor pavillion located at a different park in Kinston.
Go Mudcats lol, grew up in Goldsboro, glad they got the neuse stabilized
I was Dive Officer and Senior Diver for the Corps of Engineers during the early 80s conducting what was then exploratory dive investigations on the wreck. Sometimes the hull would be full of sediment and at other times the hull would be open. I dove in the hull back and forth across and went down looking for the engine when the hull was clear of sediment, on a rare occasion. I believe sediment deposition was related to the tide gate operation but couldn’t say for sure. On one dive we found the first shell and cannonball located a short distance from the wreck. When we brought up the first shell we didn’t know if it was still water tight and intact. We removed the fuse noting that the cap was long gone and the powder was wet. There was a plunger that would ignite a cap of fulminate of mercury in a brass fuse. That’s not to say the shell was inert as we later found out in a less publicized incident. When the powder is dried it is still explosive. This story is known by a few and will not be public on my account, but you know who you are. Just one of many stories and fond memories from diving on the CSS Georgia and as mentioned lots of comradery on the Savannah District Dive Team. 19:25
The part about "Clean Sweep" was nice to learn! I am so thankful that even in the "PC" environment that plagues our country today that OUR History is being preserved, examined, studied and displayed. Another unique part of this story was the ability of the Women of Savannah to raise over $100k to fund this ship or rather "Floating Battery". Just like today, we as historians or whatever your call or interest are, have the ability to support Battlefield and Relic restoration and saving of the Hallowed Grounds from all of America's skirmishes, wars and issues. I have and will continue to donate when and where I can, no matter the amount, and not for recognition or a pat on the back but for our future generations of Americans to enjoy, study and hopefully learn from!
Political Correctness is NOT the Language of a Free People.
And it had a stealth profile.
*IllumInatI ExPOseD?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!*
1cyberrider Sure did. Way before its time. I'll bet it would be still stealthy today with virtually no right angles or angles at all above the waterline.
1cyberrider the general shape reminds me a lot of the modern U.S. navy ships. CSA def had the best naval officers and engineers of the time..
Yet they put a too small engine in it.
No, that's not all there is too it.
Interestingly enough, the new Zumwalt destroyer looks similar with the reverse slope bow 🧐
Ngl Zumwalt Looks like it was Inspired by casemate Ironclads such as Uss Cairo and Css Georgia.
This bow is not it just appears to sit very low
This was fantastic!! American History is very fascinating. Totally amazing!! Very very good job to everyone involved in this monumental production! Those guns!! The Naval history is so important to preserve!!
I'll take one of offered.
The 32 pounder had been loaded, and never fired for nearly a century.
*Mind*
*BLOWN*
QwertyTwo the armoer had also not been tested for nearly a century, engine hasn't ran for a century etc.
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A great video recovering and recording the history of our bitter past
>history in the world: monuments,buildings,cities,treaties,literature,inventions,paintings.
>history in USA: GUNZ
I just love how american this show is.
Thats because other countries hide their war crimes. We just own then up and state “dont fuck with us and you wont get mcfucked dude”
@@AmericanMan961 nice b8 m8
You're watching a documentary about the most traumatic part of U.S. history. If you study, say, the '1810's in Europe, you'll also have a lot of "GUNZ."
FANTASTIC SHOW THANKS
Interesting. Thanks for posting!
Some years ago we raised fro the sea bed the "Mary rose" which was the pride and joy of the English navy in 1545, needles to say the whole of one side has been raised and is conserved in Portsmouth they have managed to stabilise the wood from drying out etc so technology is advancing so I am sure the Georgia could under go the same conservation. it would have been so easy for the port authority just to dredge the whole thing out of the river years ago at a small fraction of the cost of conserving it, so well done for them for not just destroying it.
Although I'm in the UK I love anything to do with the American civil war especially the confederacy, thanks for sharing 👍👍👍
War for Southern Independence! Just like 1776! - civil wars are two (or more) sides fighting for control of the same land or government. Definitely NOT the case here. The Confederate Government was FORCED to defend it's land from a foreign Invader, the United States. Had the Tyrant Lincoln not invaded, there would have been no war.
@@ladonnahale282 generally speaking a war for independence is fought by an occupied territory. Or by an established colony. In this case it was a war fought to divide a Nation - a war fought between two sides of the same country. A civil war.
Awesome video. Thank you for sharing this invaluable piece of American Civil War history..
Lots of leg-irons for such a small ship.
The crew must have been a mutinous and rebellious bunch.
Or it relied on slave labor and it was probably so hot they had to chain them there to keep them on the boat
🤣was wondering that myself
This is really good history and thank you for sharing this video, I really enjoyed it alot.
Neat documentary, but did they ever come to a clearer conclusion about the specs of this mystery ship? One would think they could determine the approximate dimensions, the number of cannon, etc.
Fact is, those men that lived and worked those confederate and union vessels were all Americans, every one of them and thier lives, weather north or south, should be honored that way. It was a painful period, that pitted brother against brother, son against father and no American at that time wanted that heartbreak, but it happened. We cannot erase that history. That's the true history of our civil war.
Richard Torz Agree. As a northerner, I think it’s wrong that they’re taking down or even destroying Civil War monuments because this or that person owned slaves, or abused his wife, etc. It tells the story of America and Americans, for better or worse. No man on the side of good is all good, or on the side of wrong is all wrong. Hitler revitalized the German economy after he was legally elected Chancellor of Germany in 1933. Then the monster in him took over resulting in the deaths of 6,000,000+. He’s probably burning in hell, but he’s a part of German history, like it or not. I hope the will is found to properly display the Georgia.
@@mariekatherine5238 as far as Hitler is concerned, he was a product of the retribution paid to France England and the other neighboring conquering countries. They worked at stripping Germany of it's natural resources and causing massive devaluation of its economy. Hitler actually had Jewish ancestors. He was addicted to a popular medication developed to help new mothers deal with sleepless babies, it's new name now is meth. One of Hitler's most famous admirers who also visited him quite often and helped in the perfection of assembly line production.... Henry Ford.
All of this is true.
Wonderful documentary.
Good to see Mel Melton and Bob Holcomb here. I knew them from the old museum there in Columbus
Amazing 10/10 great work!
Me: Seeing the Georgia.
Also Me: Is that a stealth warship from the 19 century?
I feel like people forget history often is about war and not peace, we have had it so easy for so long people forget what grit and being strong even is.
I clicked on this by accident and the up watching the entire thing fairly mesmerized on my long drive home
Bravo to the producers and especially to those who helped preserve this piece of history.
I hope someone else was driving or you have a Tesla with the autopilot cruise control whatchamacallit self driving feature.
@@danieltoth3900 If I remember correctly, most of this was during a dead stopped traffic jam
Nice post Michael Jordan!
Like the video, still have to point out the guy at 21:35 working on the deck of a barge in cowboy boots!
Imagine doing "underwater ordinance disposal". That's like putting life on Extra-Hard mode. Better have steel nerves.
They should have taken small pieces of the ironclad and sold them as souvenir fundraisers so the public would feel a part of the project.
One person in the video said that they found 7 different types of railroad track used as armor plating. They could sell slices of 1 of each of the seven track in a box as souvenirs. Perhaps mark them them with a special identifying stamp or a serial number. Railroad buffs might also be interested.
NO. Just NO.
no, very bad idea
Great to see retired athletes finding work 👍🏼
27:11 --> 28:59 what a decade has done to a person
Bravo!!! This iwas a well made documentary.
There should be no conversation as to where the artifacts should go. Savannah is it's home, Savannah is where it was laid to rest, and in Savannah it should remain.
Well said. There should be NO QUESTION.
It seems like just yesterday that my father was pointing out the buoys marking the spot where the Georgia lay in the river. I can’t believe that was over 20 years ago.
11:32 that’s the most running those guys did in the last 30 years
Interesting to see the amount of time and effort put into saving this Civil War artifact when the rest of the country is spending it's time and money on removing Civil War artifacts. There seems to be a divide in America on whether we should remember our history or re write it.
People need to understand that right or wrong, the civil war is American history and it needs to be preserved!!
I love low-budget documentary reenactments! They never fail to make me laugh.
That would be cool if someday they could build A full scale working replica of that ship.😎
How cool to be a part of that.....wow
When you can't afford actors so get your dad and his pals to do the re enactments 😂
When you can't afford real sources so you interview the daughters of the confederacy
Visit Gettysburg on July 3rd and 4th. You will see historically correct reenactments. These are all volunteers that take everything close to perfect. The Uniforms, equipment, camps weapons and engagements are better than any professional actors could hope to do.
You can't just show up and be a reenactor. You must go through a process making sure everything is correct and you start out as a private.
This is true for both Union and Confederate soldiers.
@@stever8776 nobody showed up last year
@@Wolfsbane1100 I was thinking about watching this then I read this comment and was like no thanks. I won't waste my time.
@@Moose803 gee I wonder why
It's great to see the Civil War is still going on in the comments
Open top metal container. AKA a 40 yard dumpster.
Thanks, enjoyed that :)
Fantastic interesting documentary, thank you for sharing , really interesting 🙂
Very good video thank you. :)
I think that is both fascinating and interesting. I learned a lot.
Thanks for this in-depth report on an important American artifact.
Long story short, they abandoned it for 150 years, someone tried to smash it up with a dredge several times, and then when they finally got around to bother with it, they just looted all the interesting artifacts, removed all the ordinance, moved the actual iron cladding over to the other side of the river took 3d scans of all the sections and made engineering drawings, cataloged it then dumped it in the water again, then left what little of the bottom of the hull was left to be destroyed when the dredge finishes deepening the channel for shipping. If they really gave a damn about it, they could have dammed up part of the river, built a dry dock around it and salvaged the lot 50 years ago when it was all still in one piece - but they refused to because it would have interfered with shipping, for a few months and nobody wanted to pay for it.
Bet you it would have been a different story had it been the USS Abraham Lincoln ironclad or such.
It is Georgia.....but they are not real archaeologist...
It is likely the integrity of the ship was already ruined when they were salvaging the iron off the hull in the late 1880's using dynamite and crowbars.
To coin a Vulcan phrase: Facinating
Yes I agree, and to coin another Vulcan phrase: It is only logical.... to watch this video lol
Southern coastal cities like Savannah and Charleston must have been mosquito an malaria ridden hell holes in the 19th century. In the late 20th Century, the saying emerged: "The South shall rise again - this time with AIR CONDITIONING!"
Yeah anyone who goes outside in Savannah during the summer will instantly see why air conditioning was probably the largest innovation for the Southern US ever.
Malaria and yellow fever were definite problems in Savannah in the 18th and 19th centuries (and before). Most of Savannah is built over old cemeteries left over from those epidemics.
Well done, Mike.
Despite being such a young country, the US has more history than most care to admit or realize. Yes, in relation to Europe and Asia, the US history seems immature in comparison.
Perhaps an Ironsides Exhibit with additional civil war artifacts can tour the country. Such a tour could potentially pay for itself through endowments, ticket sales, and donations. We are a nation proud of its armed services. Then again, thanks to technology, the demographic and anticipated number of museum visitors is not what it once was. As with any decision, the cost to benefit ratio may prove a tour is not feasible. We'll see what the future holds.
It's great to see so many passionate individuals contribute so much over the last five decades. I hope to one day conquer the health issues which have marooned me in Seattle since injured in 2006. Don't get me wrong, Seattle is a great place to be marooned in. Like the ever improving technology that has allowed the complete retrieval of the CSS Georgia and all of her secret artifacts, I too, am holding out for technology to improve my life so I am afforded the opportunity to tour our great nation. Savannah is on the list of top cities I'd love to visit because of her rich and diverse history.
Cheers!
Awesome‼ Thanks for posting..☺
is a really smart design at the time and ahead of it's time , look at modern military ship now, also the slope profile during the war of tanks and tank designing people forgot about it's design
For it's purposes, the design was pretty inefficient, because it couldn't turn it's guns. This is why the USS Monitor (having a revolving turret) could hold it's own against the CSS Virginia, while it only had 2 guns vs. the Virginia's 12.
The idea of sloping armor was well known already, and it wasn't exactly forgotten.
The reason tanks initially didn't adopt this concept was because sloped armor constrains the interiour space, and accordingly,
this only became viable as the tanks grew large enough. It's quiet telling that the first tanks to use sloping armor on most surfaces were Soviet, as the Russians famously didn't give a shit about crew comfort.
The similarity with modern warships is pretty coincedental.
It so happens that the geometry nessecary to deflect cannonballs is analogous to the geometry used to deflect radar waves.
Awesome job. God bless the South.
WITHOUT A DOUBT , THE SADDEST WAR!!! ON ACCOUNT OF YOUR OWN PEOPLE FIGHTING EACHOTHER!!!😢
Stay tuned, it is about to happen again.
we need to preserve the history, don't matter what kind it was,
What's the point man has doomed the Earth..
@@ShopeeMarketteam it would be nice to save them for museum
What an amazing story’
Very cool 3d imaging and respect for the drawings and original way of recording this. Both are quite valuable and I'm really happy they used so many recording methods, research teams and seems like they turned no one away but fully cared for everything and everyone. This is AWESOME in itself and a testament to the American spirit!!! RESPECT for everyone involved!!! 🇺🇸🎉💯💪😃👍💯🎉🇺🇸
Great documentary!!!
Fascinating and well done documentary! Very cool!
Brilliant fellas!!! Amazing!!!
I'd try using some of those rust-removing lasers for cleaning up those cannons
nice documentary
So, they already had a battery on a 'man-made island' and they spent $150,000 to basically build another one out of wood and iron?
War hysteria
Remember, ti was SUPPOSED to be able to move around. That's why they got all that hate mail.
the 'floating battery' argument was just an excuse, it was meant to be a warship
I've been to Ft Jackson for my 8th grade field trip so I got to see the spot where the CCS Georgia once floated. We got to see a big cannon fire, the one at 51:48. They fired it right when a ship was passing
Awesome!!
It easy to see the similarity of ironclads to modern stealth ships like the Zumwalt. I would think anyone looking at an ironclad would immediately think; how would the radar signature of an ironclad compare to a modern stealth design? After googling the question & getting no answers, I begin to wonder if humans are losing their curiosity!
Most Likely due to Wikipedia thats the case.
Ive done some deep searches into things before but its not that often. Ususaly it is sparked by a Documentary tho
I'm travelling down the coast to Miami FL from Virginia, happen to be spending the night in a hotel in Savannah Georgia when this irrelevant to my feed documentary pops up, weird but interesting.
Great history. thank you !
That really had to been some thing back in those days! a FLAG SHIP Can you even imagine how hard it was to live back then! Made things, much less Fighting ect ect no ac, no electric, no machines to make things ALL HAND MADE and forged from steel > Dam they was smart! To link rails like that! 47:10 Using what was all ready made!
Congratulations to everyone who participated in rescuing the wreckage of the CSS Georgia boat. 👍