Oswald actually had 8.5 seconds. All test shooters hit the target, they just missed the dime sized aiming points drawn on the targets. One of them got off 3 shots in 5 seconds bettering Oswalds time of 8.5 seconds. One unspent round was found in Oswalds rifle. As well as his prints on the rifle, prints on the boxes he used to stabilize his rifle. 007 isn't too bright.
Yeah sure and thats fine with the fake timing and fake spots on the street that they say the shots were fired. Reality is u can PROVE this is all bullshit by looking at the video and photographic evidence. Btw IMO 🤣
@@billysequinsStone's whole shooting scenario was preposterous. 3 teams, 3 shooters, 6 shots..only one hits the head. Worst scenario ever but people buy it hook line and sinker.
Too many things wrong with this test. Oswald had a M1938 service rifle, with a 22" barrel. Rifle in this test is cavlalry carbine with bayonet removed & with a 17" barrel. The difference in length IS significant. Oswald's rifle had a black painted stock without cartouche, likely signifying some special issue rather than general issue, hence better cared for than a general issued gun. (Mussolini's guards had the carbines, 17" barrels, issued "Guardia del Duce" and the Papal guards a special carbine with a unique upper band.) Scope used in Oswald's gun was an inexpensive Japanese type marked "Ordinance Optics" using an unusual sheet metal mount. Narrow field of focus significant. Ammunition appears to be soft pointed commercial, likely .264" bullet. Osawald used ammunition from part of a run by WCC from early '50's for a cancelled plan to overthrow the Communist government of Albania. The bullet used was the correct .267". 10,000,000 rounds made half used in training other half sold off to surplus market.
Actually, the barrel is just a bit over 20". Given a barrel in good condition and and ammo of the correct diameter, there's no reason it couldn't have MOA accuracy.
1- Like all Marines, Oswald was trained and tested in shooting. In December 1956, he scored 212, which was slightly above the requirements for the designation of sharpshooter. In May 1959 he scored 191, which reduced his rating to marksman. Hitting a 10” target at 200 yards (600 ft). 2- The rifle in this documentary is the Calvary model, not to the M38 short rifle (an error Klein’s made and shipped instead of as he ordered what was in the original ad. 3- Marina said he would sit on the front porch and dry cycle the bolt over and over. He did it and he did it alone.
You do realize Carcano in video as a Cavalry Carbine with folding bayonet removed and much shorter barrel. M1938 rifle used by Oswald had longer barrel. Small, but very important detail especially in handling to stouter M38. This is an accuracy factor.
@@topgaming-zq2fglooks almost like a weaver *C* or *J* series, possibly even one of those Lyman Alaskan scopes, but not 100% sure though. The mount is def a Weaver N4/N5 *or* Weaver “U” &/or “T” series side mounts. That makes me lean more towards the scope also being a Weaver. More than likely what I mentioned or a Japanese knockoff which were very poppular during that era, as was the one on Oswald’s spec.
The scope mount on this rifle is a Weaver N4 scope mount. However this scope mount was modified by a gunsmith. The bottom on the mount was bent over enough to allow for clip loading and bolt clearance just like Oswald's unusual scope mount. The Weaver N4 sits the same height and is the exact same length as the Oswald scope mount and is the closest to replicating the Oswald scope mount.
Thank you so much for answering my mystery question I have not been able to find an answer for. The cheap ones that were used on the “Dummy rifle” for the setup are overpriced from the bs store in Cali where he ordered the gun from. This scope mount is better quality, identical, and realistically priced. Such a shame they don’t use this concept on newer rifles to use iron sights as needed.
+Todd Burleson So why not have a dead patsy with an M1 and a "hero cop" to claim the credit? Why go to the trouble of shooting Oswald on live TV and the having Ruby snuffed too?
Oswald wasn’t aiming for the head or the neck... he was aiming for the torso & missed on all occasions... the fact he hit the head & neck was luck. Also, the 2 shots that hit were about 5s apart, the 3rd either came about 5-6s earlier than the neck shot OR a few seconds after the head shot, either way... both missed.
@@JFKJustTheFacts Joker... you should do some research! the only conspiracy was certain agencies covering up their ineptitude that allowed Oswald to take the shot in the first place. Something the FBI should've foreseen & prevented. Curtain rods... yer right!
@@JFKJustTheFacts like countless others have done for nearly 60 year, and like them you have chose to ignore the simple facts that stare you in the face in favour of wild conspiracy stories that have gone nowhere . what's your theory? CIA, FBI, Russia, Cuba, the Mob, secret service, local PD, Johnson, JFCOTT, all of them in 1 giant conspiracy? honestly, the USA couldn't even keep the A-Bomb blueprints a secret, how could a conspiracy involving what must have been dozens stayed buried for 60 years. I ask again, if it wasn't Oswald, then where were the 'curtain rods' Buell Frazier took him to work carrying that morning... because he definitely wasn't carrying them when he ran out of the building passing Pierce Allman. like I said, research the actual facts, they're much more interesting
The giagantic Texas oak wasn't as big as it is today in 1963. Heck even when Oliver Stone's JFK in the 1990's, the trees were MUCH bigger than they actually were. To see how they were look at a picture of Dealey Plaza immediately afterwords, like when they were placing flowers and memorials on the grass while the secret service was doing their reenactment. And to see how very much not in the way that tree was *watch the secret service reenactment video that they were filming in that picture, it is here publicly available on TH-cam* It not only shows the view from the car to the window in 1963, but it also shows view from window and scope in 1963. Don't worry about "edited" I edited to fix the bold and add more detail on what the reenactment film shows.
I would like to know "specifically" how YOU know the Carcano to be one of the worst rifles ever ? The Carcano, by today's standard, is a VERY formidable weapon. It is an "obsolete", but not the cheap and crude instrument described by Mark Lane. I have the 1940 Turni model, with the "correct" Ordnance Optics scope. I have solicited conspiracy buffs to "run-around" downrange at 85 to 100 yards to test my average skill. So far, I have not had any takers. The shooter always has the advantage.
Lets be honest, he riffle was a piece of crap, but it was still more than capable of achieving its task. People that say the riffle was inaccurate were said to be using a slightly undersized modern round in their tests
Carcano is a great weapon. Only problem w/ the *”OFFICIAL REPORT”* is they discounted the fact that LHO’s prints were NOT on that gun, but Malcon Wallace (LBJ’s personal enforcer and hitman) were!!! Watch the film *EXECUTIVE ACTION* which goes into detail of how there were 2 carcanos in the TSBD and two FN America Mauser Sporters used from the Knoll. Ruth Paine (CIA contracted agent as well as her husband) who was housing Marina Oswald and her kids at the time allowed Dallas PD officer Roscoe White and Wallace to sneak in the garage and “steal” the gun a few nights prior.
@@franclin0wrong would be the answer to you, once again!! Lee’s fingerprints were not found until testing was done once again, only a day or so after his death. They stole the carbine out of the garage he was storing it and other personal items at, and used it to frame him.
@portugal5698 see this is a perfect example of conspiracy believers reading only conspiracy material then repeating it like it were fact. Lee's palm print was found and lifted off the Carcano on November 22 by Lt JC Day of the Dallas Police. The lifting of the print eliminated it from the weapon, which is why Sebastian Latona, the latent print supervisor for the bureau said there were no visible prints on the rifle.
The clip can hold UP TO 6 bullets. It'll still work in the rifle when loaded with fewer bullets in it. I've loaded my own Carcano's clips with 2 and 3 bullets before, and the gun still worked just fine.
This is true, but if you're Oswald why not have a full charger to begin with? Why only pre-load 4 rounds when the charger holds 6? Is there some kind of assassin/criminal logic that says not having a full load of ammunition is a good thing? Mindsets tend to be you can never have enough ammo for your mission.
JFK was moving in a straight line from Oswald, he barely had to move at all to take serial shots. This scenario was recreated for complete amateurs who had never picked up a rifle before and they nailed it more often than not - let alone Oswald who was a master marksman, 90%+ accuracy for a headshot at 200yds in the Marines' testing protocol. That's a perfectly good rifle for the time and Oswald had between 8-10s to make those shots, not the mythical 6s figure.
Indeed , interesting also that he met Jim Garrison in Louisiana while filming Live and Let Die and said that he found Garrison convincing (or words to that effect).
I've read that Klein's offered the ammo to go with the rifle, but no evidence that Oswald purchased any. Not on the order form. Also read that there were two gunshops in Dallas that carried the ammo and neither have records of any sales to Oswald nor do employees remember seeing him. He could have obtained the ammo from damn near anywhere, undetected.
We're not talking 30-06 ammo where any store would carry it. It was a rare ammo, and it begs the question, if the ammo can be bought undetected, why mail order a rifle and revolver?
@@jason60chev ik the comment is 4 years old but oswald actually used a false alias to purchase the rifle (A J Hidell or something). Said ID was found in his wallet. What oswald did was basically the stepping stone for the gun control act made in 1968 (mail order firearms and false ID to buy)
James Worell was killed in an accident. In 2006 an 85 year old woman named Velma said on Radio that she saw a man run out of the back door of the TSBD with a high powered rifle in his hand.Norman Similas took pictures with TSBD in the background one showed two men on the 6th floor window with a gun. The photo was never published but was stolen and the negitive disappeared.
They're not even using the same model Carcano as found in the TSBD. This one looks like the cavalry model with the fold-out bayonet attachment (though the bayonet is missing).
Fiat money serves the PURPOSE of currency which is to transfer the value of various good and services exchanged, not some hypothetical value of gold that no one actually needs. The supply of gold or silver or any precious metal is completely detached from actual economic output. This is basic economics. The US Government prints money, not any private bank.
No, I did not buy Facebook shares because they don't have a good business strategy of actually making money. If I would buy any stock it would be in Google as their targeted ads make sense.
0:39 "requiring a considerable amount of force" this test is stupid. I read a interview with three wehrmacht snipers on the eastern front and if I remember right they all said they preferred the k98 over the g43 as a sniper rifle. I understand that the k98 and the carcano are different actions but they're both cock on open bolts and require almost the same amount of force to manipulate the bolt. Where the Carcano falls short in modern times is that the manlicher clips are all old and bent making reliable feeding a issue. Not all the manlicher clips are bad but from what I understand they were designed for one time use, combine that with them being old and I believe that's part of the carcanos bad rep. Also most of the modern 6.5 carcano commercial ammo is slightly undersized making the bullet not engage the rifling effectively for high accuracy. Otherwise though I'd say for its time the carcano series were fine rifles.
I have told you that the value of gold has gone down because more gold has been removed from the ground and virtually no gold has been destroyed. Supply-demand.
John Powell was in jail on in the Dallas County Jail across from the TSBD saw two dark complected men in the southeast window on the 6th floor TSBD . Others in the jail at the time saw the same thing but were not called to testify. Robert HWest stood in the old courthouse, heard four shots.Ronald B Fisher and Robert E Edwards were standing opposite the TSBD saw a man in the 6th floor window, both heard more than 3 shots
Arnold & Barbara Rowland saw two men on the 6th floor TSBD , one in the west window had a gun, the other a dark complected man stood at the eastern window. Carol Walther on Houston street also saw 2 men on the 6 th floor , she heard one shot then two more similtanously followed by a fourth.Ruby Henderson was standing on Elm Street and saw the same as Carol Walter and heard the same 4 shots , then 2 together followed by a 4th shot.
No, things don't cost 4x more, things are PRICED four times more. That's inflation. Cost is very different, as in "the car was redesigned so it cost much less to build" vs "A loaf of bread is priced much higher than 30 years ago though just as affordable". It's well established in every industry for income and expenses should follow inflation, also banks paying interest on savings OR encouraging investment. Japan has a problem of deflation, no one wants to invest.
i watched the film and it clearly shows nine seconds from first shot to the head shot. the first shot missed (prolly using the cheap scope) the other two shots he prolly used open sights seeing as it was such a close distance. its easy to cycle two aimed shots in nine seconds. especially for a veteran marine.
the price of an X box is determined by how much the consumer will pay for it. which means the price you see at the store is the ABSOLUTE MAX the public will pay for an item. its called market saturation price. it makes no difference if it cost the producer .13c or $13 to produce the finished product. it will still sell for $199 at the store. because that is the absolute most that someone is willing to pay for an item such as an X box. so no locally made x boxes WILL NOT cost more
Jack Meadows J. C. Day testified at the WC that 3 spent cartridges were found near the window, one live round was found in the chamber that was ejected by Captain Fritz, and the clip was still in the rifle. There exists a rather we'll known photo of the rifle being carried from the scene with the clip shown protruding from the magazine. Day's report prepared on 11/22/63 mentions the clip and the markings found on the clip. No additional rounds were found in the clip. As shown by the video above, and known to anyone who owns a Carcano rifle, it can be loaded with the clip containing anywhere from 1 to 6 cartridges. Oswald apparently had 4 loaded into his rifle on 11/22/63.
We will never know why Oswald chambered the 4th and final round as he is dead. After firing the 3rd and fatal head shot, he might have chambered the final round to ready another shot, but then decided it was unnecessary, or perhaps he no longer had a good shot available. We'll never know as Oswald is dead. If Oswald fired 3 rounds and chambered a 4th round that he never fired, and if he only had 4 rounds in the clip to begin with, then it makes sense that 3 spent rounds were located near the rifle, one live round was left in the chamber, with none left in the clip.
Nope. It's not just the cost of plastic (which is more than a fraction of a cent), or even all the other elements like rare metals in power converter, it's the cost of the machinery and the research behind every component and technology involved, no way it takes less than 3 man hours of work per xbox on minimum wage.
they should reduce taxes to 1901 levels. the ONLY things the federal govt should do is provide for the general defence of the nation (military) and make sure that trade is made regular between the states. (not letting states set tarriffs to other states) (providing roads ports etc) every thing else should be left to the several states to decide what to do. they wouldnt NEED to take so much money if they stuck to their constitutional responsibilitys
@clev9980 The finding of the Oswald palm print was made after Oswald's murder, up to that time apparently everyone was unaware of it. The Oswald rifle palm print was supposedly found by Lt. Day on the first day of the murder, Lt Day claims to have told a few FBI agents but they could not recall the conversation. Even Day's assistant who was supposedly there when it was photographed refused to sign an affidavit testifying as to when it was found.
silver has indeed increased in price and vallue. several factors played into this. one silver is used in many products that didnt exist in 1982. two china allowed its people to own silver. bringing in 1 billion potential new buyers. three as people are waking up to the fact that fiat money is becoming obsolete they are snatching up as much copper silver and gold (if they can afford it) as they can. and copper and silver are more affordable so vollume of hoarding is more.
Further, if I were required to KILL today within a limited range, such as Dealey Plaza, I might actually prefer my Carcano. It is very compact and capable with either the side mount scope or the iron sights. As a sniper rifle, at relatively short range upon a moving target, it is superb. Those who would dub it to be a "humanitarian" weapon during World War II have never considered the "fate" of it's victims. A very simple weapon, but then, some today regard the modern Glock handgun as simplistic
Sorry for your troubles. I wish you well. I simply beg to disagree. 85 yards at a moving target downrange does not call for exceptionally remarkable shooting. If so, the hunting sports would not be so popular. Oswald was an above average shot and a bit of luck will also figure into most any sniper's role.
Yes, the point of desert island value shows there is no actual difference if you use fiat currency, gold itself, or gold-backed currency. The difference in the real world is there is NO CONTROL over the price of gold, that changes with fluctuating supply and demand. But Fiat money can be controlled. Fiat money and Stock Shares are both good analogies, neither are backed by a gold-standard yet they are still valuable.
Don't mix up price and COST. I am saying the COST of Xbox would be higher if it wasn't made in China. If the cost is higher than the price people will pay, the company doesn't make any money. No one else (anywhere) makes Xbox because Microsoft OWNS the rights to that invention.
Um, the housing bubble has burst, market has realised how many houses are overvalued. Resorting a house from a craphole to nice is good, you have $2000 (store under your bed it loses value) or spend on restoring and you increase the value of the house by $10'000. You turned nails, screws and paint into something more valuable, a nice house. You MAKE WEALTH, not numbers-games with deflating currency.
Um, the head of the Federal Reserve is appointed by the President of the United States and must follow his orders. Federal Reserve is NOT a private bank. Fed's profit goes to the government pocket. It is well established with Fiat Money that the government can print more money or less, that is how it pays for the Marine Corps and NASA, that along with Taxes.
I cant believe oswald acted alone.not to take anything away from his ability to shoot or the rifle either. when you want to get rid of a president a backup plan helps. just my thoughts.
Yes, the Dollar is worth fractionally less. But if more gold is mined and the price of gold goes down, then if Dollar was on a gold standard their money would be worth less suddenly. Gold is constantly mined from the ground and no gold is destroyed, while demand for gold can plummet. Fiat Money IS worth something as it is tied to something of ACTUAL value: the total economic output of the United States. Gold doesn't have inherent value: on a desert island, what is gold worth?
investments are not the ONLY way a company can become prosperous. infact the a company SHOULD be able to provide its own capital needs without investments after it is off the ground. the other way to bring money in is...GASP...selling products. and people will buy more of your product if it is "deflated" than if it is "inflated" not only will individual people by multiple items MORE people will join in the buying feeding frenzy. THAT is the engine of capitalism not merely investments
Value of silver has changed hugely and unpredictably, as was done by just one banker tried to buy up enough of the world's supply of silver to overprice it then burst the bubble once he sold it. Gold's value adjusted for average income is worth less because more gold has been mined and is in circulation. Got a source on Mechanic being PAID $35 an hour. Equipment and resources ain't free and how much profit is garage owner taking?
The actuality AND the concept of the the Trabant is also completely different from the VW Beetle. The VW Beetle is AS IT WAS sold after the war: it was sold for capitalist price reasons to those who pay on their choice. It was not doled out. If you want to see how the VW Beetle was intended to be sold, LOOK HOW IT WAS ACTUALLY SOLD, after the war, VW Beetles were sold like any other capitalist commodity.
when gold is mined and the price gos down snatch it up and horde it. making the vallue go back up. also when the population increases the demand would increase too. right back at ya. when you are on a desert island what is fiat money worth?
Amos lee Euins saw a black man with a bald top fire a rifle from the 6th floor TSBD , he heard 4 shots. His mother recieved phone call death threats. James Worell was standing below the TSBD heard a shot ,looked up saw a gun , heard two more shots and then a fouth as he ran away around the corner, as he was standing there , he saw a man run out the back door of the TSBD. described the man as 5' 7" 165 lbs dark hair.
Not one bullet retrieval test? The JFK bullet was pristine no mushrooming at all. Where is that test? I've never seen a rifle bullet not expand, even full metal jacket copper bullets. These were lead core.
No, not gold and silver for electronics, I mean Cadmium, Beryllium, Thallium, Cobalt, Tungsten, Gallium. What about Platinum, America needs tons of that for industry but has hardly any reserves. Of the 17 rare earth metal mines in the world only one is in North America, most are in China.
That's just cherry picking, the value of Gold is right now skyrocketing and it has plummeted before irrespective of supply/demand for other resources/services. You also looking at a time period where NO major currency is back by bullion.
THE VALLUE OF GOLD HAS NOT GONE DOWN!!! it has remained stable for at least the last 30 years if not the last 111 years. the vallue of the DOLLAR has gone down predictably and consistantly ever since the fed reserve got its clutches on the american peoples pocket book
yes it could have happened .. but the thing that gets me is the 'last bullet' (which supposedly was the same type of bullet as you have mentioned) exploded on impact and none of its fragments were ever found even in the car ...'that' some think was an explosive bullet shot from the fence is irrelevant at the moment . LHO would n't have used different bullets, he didn't need to,as he was a damm good shot at 200yd range according to his marine records... Im not saying he did though lol
no the VALLUE of gold is remaining exactly the same. as you can purchase the same amount of goods and services with an ounce of gold as you could 30 years ago. the PRICE of gold is "skyrocketing" because the VALLUE of the dollar is plumeting. the last time the price of gold went down in any meaningful manner was during the recession of the early 90s the economy was in a DEFLATION and the dollar kept getting stronger and stronger reducing the price of gold.
EXACTLY so when goods are made here more people HERE have money in their pocket which they imediately go out and squander on more apples and x boxes and what not. they are RE INVESTING in their own economy. but when they buy goods OUTSIDE the country they are exporting their own wealth and are taking money OUT of their economy or DE vesting.
i bought my house for $40 000 and now its worth $17 000 and that is after i put $21 000 in renovations. into it. not that it really matters to me im not planning on moving out. and the cheaper vallue means my taxes are less. but your analogy is WAY off. grow up everything is a numbers game. somthing is only worth what somebody is willing to pay. i know someone who just paid $16000 for an old 60s military jeep because of the memories...is it worth $16k? not to me. but to him it was
credit gives a temporary stimulous but when the money is spent and all you are left with is debt means you need to borrow more and more and more and more to keep your spending. eventually you are working only to pay the min payment. digging a deeper debt is only going to make things worse in the long run. it would be painful in the short run to go through debt withdrawls but it has to happen. otherwise its over.
I have noticed that alot of people that recreate the shot always do it from down range. Why don't they accurately do it from the height LHO was at with tree that was obstructing his view and whilst shooting at a target that was going 20 to 25 miles per hour.
What? With deflation money grows in value by just putting it under your bed. With inflation the only way to get more money is by INVESTING in ways that CREATE WEALTH. Deflation means buy high, sell low. People will always defer purchases as their money will go further if they just wait a bit longer.
Ma non e’ che stiamo facendo un po’ di confusione !!! La cartuccia mostrata e’ del Carcano !! Ma la cartuccia stayr Manlicher era un 8x56 R !! E il sistema otturatore tutta un ‘altra cosa !!!
lol, this is funny, the narrator makes it seem as if a sniper would never choose a bolt action rifle. There are plenty of bolt action rifles still in use today, and as far as the wasted time of cycling a bolt, has he ever heard of a Lee Enfield
I mean investment in the broadest sense, as everywhere people earn currency (a representation of wealth) they put it back into the economy rather than putting it under their bed. Buying apples from a company that takes your money to make more apples is re-investing money you earned elsewhere.
all the preppers are buying up gold silver. and even nickels because of their copper content. a $2 roll of nickels has $8 worth of copper. and rising provided that they are older than 2008
so when the fed printed up that additional 600 billion and made the dollar in yuor wallet worth only .80c you dont think that made it worse? that is a 20% tax on the poor and working class
lol.. I know what you mean, but Oswald could shoot ok, his Marine M1 record shows he scored 48/50 and 49/50 at 200 yds range .. The range in Dealy plaza was 88yds, I think he missed with the first using a defected scope and scored twice with iron sights there after , any rifle is good at that range with someone who can shoot . There ain't nothin wrong with the Carcano, its good as... there is a lot of disinformation these days .
An analogy is not an explanation. The economy is not a heart, it isn't even like a heart. I could say "Imagine My idea is solid gold, and imagine your idea id a pile of turd, now which seem better?"
But there IS NOT a significant demand for gold! The only value of gold is as a de-facto currency. On a deserted island, gold is worthless, goods and services are valuable. It is an OLD way of making things pretty, but it's not the only way any more. All gold mining ever did was constantly devalue the currency of gold-backed currencies, government and people were worse off. But with Fiat money, government can CONTROL that inflation and REAP the benefits to INVEST in their nation.
but like i said before. we have been doing things YOUR way for 50 years or more and look where its gotten us.and the next 50 years is going to be even worse if somthing isnt done
That’s a lie saying that there was only 3 rounds. There were 4 and one left unfired. Why make all this up? It’s what fuels the conspiracies.. it’s easily found in the reports
think of the economy as a heart beat on an EKG it has several small ups and downs then a BIG up followed by a short leveling with minor ups and downs followed by a big down. then the process repeats THAT is an example of a healthy economy. with opportunity for rich and poor alike. now lets look at YOUR economy. when it starts to go down you artificially prop it up which in the short turn eases the pain but when it bottoms out their is no longer a mechenism to raise it up and it flat lines. beeep
on a deserted island fiat money is worthless. and mining gold is a lot slower at increasing supply than the printing press. i dont see how people were worse off because they could get more money and hold onto it till the vallue went back up. it was like being in the stock market. except instead of investing in shares of a company you were trading shares of the nation. it was a perfect system. depressions and recessions did happen but they always rebounded VIGOROUSLY...roaring 20s
I did not say that was the ONLY reason. Don't try to prop up your untenable argument by misrepresenting mine. People weren't investing in Japan LONG before the Tsunami.
right now the working class is at the mercy of the fluctuating vallue of fiat money. not gold which RETAINS its vallue. when Bernanke printed up $600 billion more dollars and sold it to themselves effectively inflating the economy and devalluing the dollar by 20% within three months a .99c candy bar cost $1.19 and gasoline went from $3.35 to $4.11 money is what money does and less money does more because it is more valluable
yes we could make an x box for $13 a unit. my buddy works for microsoft he is the one who told me. china makes them for a little over $2 a unit. i rounded down. the DIFFERENCE between $13 and $2 is 11. not they make it for $11. microsoft is already making $137 profit on an x box. they dont need to make $148 profit esspecially if it hurts the american economy to do it.
Dude. I own a Carcano and Oswald's shooting is no great feat. 30 to 40 seconds to reaquire a target? Are you insane? You probably also believe Biden's gaffe that it takes 2 minutes to reload an AR-15. Oswald was nearly in line with the path of Keneddy's car, and the recoil on a Carcano is low enough that he could have kept a good sight picture in that scope for all 3 shots.
Shouldnt the real question be WHY oswald would chose a shitty gun IF he was a pro? Why in the world would a pro chose one of the shittiest guns in the world to commit this travesty? Especially after he supposedly missed the general months earlier?!? Nah makes little sense IMo. But hey who knows 🤣 btw im trolling if u dont get that lol
We see the movie to reload the rifle, the snipper misses the target, and have to find again, to the aim and shoot, someone believes that LHO sees a bladder of 15 cm to 100 meters moving at 20 km / h in 4.5 seconds (real time 2 for the third shot), someone believes that this miracle happened ..! Gentlemen, we are not fools does not exist! Because he missed the first shot, when I was 15 meters from JFK, without having to maneuver ... ladies please
ask yourself this. if YOUR way of running the economy is so great why are we in the mess we are in? its BECAUSE of the govt and the federal reserve. a bullion based economy cant be manipulated by political expedience. and if i were you i wouldnt plan on getting social security or cashing in your 401k cause those are going the way of the DODO
He has a bench rest. No evidence Oswald had a rest, and he had a misaligned scope. In fact to make the rifle function, the FBI had to add shims to get the rifle to sight properly. There was no shims in Oslwalds rifle. There was also only fingerprints INSIDE the stock (a partial palm print). No evidence Oswald had a oily rag to wipe the stock, trigger and bolt of any fingerprints. And he was not found wearing or carrying gloves. So how did he fire, wipe the gun clean, and get down to the 2nd floor and grab a coke, in time for the police to see him.
leftcoaster67 Well said also the car was moving away from him & they say your first shot will always be the best shot, after that you dont know what the Secret Service are going to do, which indicates to me, that with the sound of a hi powered rifle shooting at the president, yet the driver GREER just looks around to wait till the head shot happens & only then does the GG-300 take off at speed, which is also total BS Greer stopped the car in the first lane, thats when Connolly & Nellie get's the forward & then backwards movement, as John Costella has on his webpage, which is impossible to happen, unless you suddenly stop the car. So basically the Secret Service knew where the shot's were going to happen, thats why the driver stopped the car & allowed the snipers to make sure a head shot happened. cheers :)
leftcoaster67 1. The stock was too rough to hold prints. This information was testified to by experts at the WC. Moreover, useable prints are not often found on the metal parts of rifles as the jarring of the rifle during shooting acts to smudge any print. However, threads from Oswald's shirt were found on the rifle. 2. Ronald Simmons testified the azimuth could be set to make the rifle fire accurately if set at its maximum setting; however the FBI installed shins to make the setting permanent. No one will ever know if the scope was jarred, mishandled, misaligned, or otherwise moved by Oswald after he fired, or by others handling the rifle after it was discovered. The scope had signs of being scraped or damaged. 3. Oswald could have made his shots using the open (iron) sights. The scope was off mounted to the left of the rifle leaving the open sights free to use. The distances of the shots that hit JFK were only 58 and 88 yards, well within the range of someone using open sights. 4. At 10 or 11 mph, the limo moved only approximately 15 feet per second, or 1.5 feet per 1/10 a second. The rifle bullet traveled at 2000 feet per second, or 200 feet per 1/10 a second. As a Carcano 91/38 has its open sights set at 200 yards, it necessarily shoots high at 58 or 88 yards. This would have benefitted Oswald, if aiming at JFK's head, and made his shots easier if he used the open sights on a target moving directly away in a straight line.
7071t6 Just off the top of my head I can think of several pieces of evidence, located before Oswald died, that tied Oswald to the assassination: the Carcano rifle was found at the TSBD within minutes of the assassination. Dallas police officer JC Day lifted the palm print from Oswald's Carcano on 11/22/63. The print is dated 11/22/63, notes on the print and that date on that print are written in Day's handwriting, and he testified he lifted it on that date, all before the FBI retrieved the rifle from Day on the 24th. When arrested on the 22nd, Oswald was found in possession of a fake ID in the name of Alek James Hidell--the same name that was on the forms from Klein's; forms that had been in that company's files for 9 months before the assassination, and the handwriting on those forms is positively identified to be Oswald's. On 11/22/63 Oswald was also arrested in possession of the correct caliber revolver that was later tied ballistically to the murder of Officer Tippet, and Oswald was positively identified by Virginia and Betty Davis, in a line up for the murder of Officer Tippet, before Oswald was killed.
The palm print was found on the INSIDE of the rifle, so how did he get palm print? The witnesses can't agree if it was a revolver or pistol. Oswald just throws the spent cases from the revolver where anyone can find them. And no extra bullets were found on his person. So he knew he was going to fire 4 shots? Because the revolver they found on him was fully loaded.
I care if someone is anti-semitic or not as that shows they make decisions by hate, not reasoned logic. I never said I don't care if someone is anti-Christian or anti other religions. I do object when people say equivalent defamation of Christians as with Jews.
@IndependentForPres What do you mean by the "magic bullet theory"? Do you mean the reasonable theory that JFK and Governor's position and their injuries line up with a straight trajectory of a bullet from book depository? Or do you mean the straw man argument that artificially places the persons an injuries in such a way that stupidly assumes the bullet makes a zig-zag trajectory, then suppose this was explained by "fancy physics". It is not "fancy physics" to find holes mark a straight line.
Oswald actually had 8.5 seconds. All test shooters hit the target, they just missed the dime sized aiming points drawn on the targets. One of them got off 3 shots in 5 seconds bettering Oswalds time of 8.5 seconds. One unspent round was found in Oswalds rifle. As well as his prints on the rifle, prints on the boxes he used to stabilize his rifle. 007 isn't too bright.
Yeah sure and thats fine with the fake timing and fake spots on the street that they say the shots were fired. Reality is u can PROVE this is all bullshit by looking at the video and photographic evidence. Btw IMO 🤣
In JFK Oliver Stone inadvertently proves the shots were perfectly possible which must've been a bit embarrassing
@@billysequinsStone's whole shooting scenario was preposterous. 3 teams, 3 shooters, 6 shots..only one hits the head. Worst scenario ever but people buy it hook line and sinker.
Too many things wrong with this test.
Oswald had a M1938 service rifle, with a 22" barrel. Rifle in this test is cavlalry carbine with bayonet removed & with a 17" barrel. The difference in length IS significant.
Oswald's rifle had a black painted stock without cartouche, likely signifying some special issue rather than general issue, hence better cared for than a general issued gun. (Mussolini's guards had the carbines, 17" barrels, issued "Guardia del Duce" and the Papal guards a special carbine with a unique upper band.)
Scope used in Oswald's gun was an inexpensive Japanese type marked "Ordinance Optics" using an unusual sheet metal mount. Narrow field of focus significant.
Ammunition appears to be soft pointed commercial, likely .264" bullet. Osawald used ammunition from part of a run by WCC from early '50's for a cancelled plan to overthrow the Communist government of Albania. The bullet used was the correct .267". 10,000,000 rounds made half used in training other half sold off to surplus market.
diasirea wow
Actually, the barrel is just a bit over 20". Given a barrel in good condition and and ammo of the correct diameter, there's no reason it couldn't have MOA accuracy.
I couldn't of said it any better.
More ad hauc rationalizations.
1- Like all Marines, Oswald was trained and tested in shooting. In December 1956, he scored 212, which was slightly above the requirements for the designation of sharpshooter. In May
1959 he scored 191, which reduced his rating to marksman. Hitting a 10” target at 200 yards (600 ft).
2- The rifle in this documentary is the Calvary model, not to the M38 short rifle (an error Klein’s made and shipped instead of as he ordered what was in the original ad.
3- Marina said he would sit on the front porch and dry cycle the bolt over and over.
He did it and he did it alone.
Correction!!! *You mean Ruth Payne propaganda said that!*
Correction!!! *You mean Ruth Payne propaganda said that!*
You do realize Carcano in video as a Cavalry Carbine with folding bayonet removed and much shorter barrel. M1938 rifle used by Oswald had longer barrel. Small, but very important detail especially in handling to stouter M38. This is an accuracy factor.
Longer barrels mean more accuracy.
thanks for the updates ... This subject is real facinating..
Such a beautiful rifle w/ such an underated scope mount that should be seen more on modern rifles.
do you know what the scope used is?
@@topgaming-zq2fglooks almost like a weaver *C* or *J* series, possibly even one of those Lyman Alaskan scopes, but not 100% sure though. The mount is def a Weaver N4/N5 *or* Weaver “U” &/or “T” series side mounts. That makes me lean more towards the scope also being a Weaver. More than likely what I mentioned or a Japanese knockoff which were very poppular during that era, as was the one on Oswald’s spec.
The scope mount on this rifle is a Weaver N4 scope mount. However this scope mount was modified by a gunsmith. The bottom on the mount was bent over enough to allow for clip loading and bolt clearance just like Oswald's unusual scope mount. The Weaver N4 sits the same height and is the exact same length as the Oswald scope mount and is the closest to replicating the Oswald scope mount.
Thank you so much for answering my mystery question I have not been able to find an answer for. The cheap ones that were used on the “Dummy rifle” for the setup are overpriced from the bs store in Cali where he ordered the gun from. This scope mount is better quality, identical, and realistically priced. Such a shame they don’t use this concept on newer rifles to use iron sights as needed.
This documentary is fucked. Oswald was a sniper in the Marine Corps. He was as expert with a rifle as anyone could possibly be.
+Todd Burleson So why not have a dead patsy with an M1 and a "hero cop" to claim the credit? Why go to the trouble of shooting Oswald on live TV and the having Ruby snuffed too?
Oswald wasn’t aiming for the head or the neck... he was aiming for the torso & missed on all occasions... the fact he hit the head & neck was luck. Also, the 2 shots that hit were about 5s apart, the 3rd either came about 5-6s earlier than the neck shot OR a few seconds after the head shot, either way... both missed.
He didn't fire any shots. The man was innocent and framed.
@@JFKJustTheFacts Joker... you should do some research! the only conspiracy was certain agencies covering up their ineptitude that allowed Oswald to take the shot in the first place. Something the FBI should've foreseen & prevented. Curtain rods... yer right!
@@theedgef1614 I have done research. Eight years of it in fact. More than Warren Commission shills like Gerald Posner and Vince Bugliosi have.
@@JFKJustTheFacts like countless others have done for nearly 60 year, and like them you have chose to ignore the simple facts that stare you in the face in favour of wild conspiracy stories that have gone nowhere . what's your theory? CIA, FBI, Russia, Cuba, the Mob, secret service, local PD, Johnson, JFCOTT, all of them in 1 giant conspiracy? honestly, the USA couldn't even keep the A-Bomb blueprints a secret, how could a conspiracy involving what must have been dozens stayed buried for 60 years. I ask again, if it wasn't Oswald, then where were the 'curtain rods' Buell Frazier took him to work carrying that morning... because he definitely wasn't carrying them when he ran out of the building passing Pierce Allman. like I said, research the actual facts, they're much more interesting
good thing he told you at breakfast his aiming points on kill day
Why does the test not factor in the gigantic Texas Oak that blocked the window’s view of 3rd shot angle???
The giagantic Texas oak wasn't as big as it is today in 1963. Heck even when Oliver Stone's JFK in the 1990's, the trees were MUCH bigger than they actually were. To see how they were look at a picture of Dealey Plaza immediately afterwords, like when they were placing flowers and memorials on the grass while the secret service was doing their reenactment. And to see how very much not in the way that tree was *watch the secret service reenactment video that they were filming in that picture, it is here publicly available on TH-cam*
It not only shows the view from the car to the window in 1963, but it also shows view from window and scope in 1963.
Don't worry about "edited" I edited to fix the bold and add more detail on what the reenactment film shows.
btw, the most accurate shot was when JFK was moving almost in line with scope, so almost a static target, not to mention the car had slowed.
I would like to know "specifically" how YOU know the Carcano to be one of the worst rifles ever ? The Carcano, by today's standard, is a VERY formidable weapon. It is an "obsolete", but not the cheap and crude instrument described by Mark Lane. I have the 1940 Turni model, with the "correct" Ordnance Optics scope. I have solicited conspiracy buffs to "run-around" downrange at 85 to 100 yards to test my average skill. So far, I have not had any takers. The shooter always has the advantage.
Lets be honest, he riffle was a piece of crap, but it was still more than capable of achieving its task. People that say the riffle was inaccurate were said to be using a slightly undersized modern round in their tests
Carcano is a great weapon. Only problem w/ the *”OFFICIAL REPORT”* is they discounted the fact that LHO’s prints were NOT on that gun, but Malcon Wallace (LBJ’s personal enforcer and hitman) were!!! Watch the film *EXECUTIVE ACTION* which goes into detail of how there were 2 carcanos in the TSBD and two FN America Mauser Sporters used from the Knoll. Ruth Paine (CIA contracted agent as well as her husband) who was housing Marina Oswald and her kids at the time allowed Dallas PD officer Roscoe White and Wallace to sneak in the garage and “steal” the gun a few nights prior.
@@portugal5698well that's completely and totally wrong. Lee's palm print WAS found on the rifle, Mac Wallace's print(s) were NEVER found anywhere.
@@franclin0wrong would be the answer to you, once again!! Lee’s fingerprints were not found until testing was done once again, only a day or so after his death. They stole the carbine out of the garage he was storing it and other personal items at, and used it to frame him.
@portugal5698 see this is a perfect example of conspiracy believers reading only conspiracy material then repeating it like it were fact. Lee's palm print was found and lifted off the Carcano on November 22 by Lt JC Day of the Dallas Police. The lifting of the print eliminated it from the weapon, which is why Sebastian Latona, the latent print supervisor for the bureau said there were no visible prints on the rifle.
i just watched the Zapruder film and he has 11 to 14 secs depending on if you count the first shot which misses
The clip can hold UP TO 6 bullets. It'll still work in the rifle when loaded with fewer bullets in it. I've loaded my own Carcano's clips with 2 and 3 bullets before, and the gun still worked just fine.
This is true, but if you're Oswald why not have a full charger to begin with? Why only pre-load 4 rounds when the charger holds 6? Is there some kind of assassin/criminal logic that says not having a full load of ammunition is a good thing? Mindsets tend to be you can never have enough ammo for your mission.
. maybe all he had was just 4 rounds on him, apparently he didn't need any more just ask jfk.
Does Anyone Have Any Info On How They Put A Scope On This Effectively
ikr cant find that anywhere
It had an offset stamped metal mount to enable top feeding of the en bloc clip. It can't be (easily) single fed.
Ive been looking for a scope for mine and can't find anything about it.
@sotodnl
Right on, the US marine snipers still use a modified version of the Remington 700.
Probably a dumb question but what does this have to do with the soviets?
Bolt action rifles are the preferred weapon of snipers due to their greater accuracy over semi automatics
JFK was moving in a straight line from Oswald, he barely had to move at all to take serial shots. This scenario was recreated for complete amateurs who had never picked up a rifle before and they nailed it more often than not - let alone Oswald who was a master marksman, 90%+ accuracy for a headshot at 200yds in the Marines' testing protocol. That's a perfectly good rifle for the time and Oswald had between 8-10s to make those shots, not the mythical 6s figure.
Indeed , interesting also that he met Jim Garrison in Louisiana while filming Live and Let Die and said that he found Garrison convincing (or words to that effect).
Anyone work for a gun store in 1963? How easy was it for Oswald to get Carcano ammunition?
I've read that Klein's offered the ammo to go with the rifle, but no evidence that Oswald purchased any. Not on the order form. Also read that there were two gunshops in Dallas that carried the ammo and neither have records of any sales to Oswald nor do employees remember seeing him. He could have obtained the ammo from damn near anywhere, undetected.
We're not talking 30-06 ammo where any store would carry it. It was a rare ammo, and it begs the question, if the ammo can be bought undetected, why mail order a rifle and revolver?
@@jason60chev ik the comment is 4 years old but oswald actually used a false alias to purchase the rifle (A J Hidell or something). Said ID was found in his wallet. What oswald did was basically the stepping stone for the gun control act made in 1968 (mail order firearms and false ID to buy)
What kind of scope did the shooter use??
James Worell was killed in an accident.
In 2006 an 85 year old woman named Velma said on Radio that she saw a man run out of the back door of the TSBD with a high powered rifle in his hand.Norman Similas took pictures with TSBD in the background one showed two men on the 6th floor window with a gun. The photo was never published but was stolen and the negitive disappeared.
How convenient
They're not even using the same model Carcano as found in the TSBD. This one looks like the cavalry model with the fold-out bayonet attachment (though the bayonet is missing).
Fiat money serves the PURPOSE of currency which is to transfer the value of various good and services exchanged, not some hypothetical value of gold that no one actually needs. The supply of gold or silver or any precious metal is completely detached from actual economic output. This is basic economics.
The US Government prints money, not any private bank.
No, I did not buy Facebook shares because they don't have a good business strategy of actually making money. If I would buy any stock it would be in Google as their targeted ads make sense.
Bello il carcano con l'ottica
0:39 "requiring a considerable amount of force" this test is stupid. I read a interview with three wehrmacht snipers on the eastern front and if I remember right they all said they preferred the k98 over the g43 as a sniper rifle. I understand that the k98 and the carcano are different actions but they're both cock on open bolts and require almost the same amount of force to manipulate the bolt. Where the Carcano falls short in modern times is that the manlicher clips are all old and bent making reliable feeding a issue. Not all the manlicher clips are bad but from what I understand they were designed for one time use, combine that with them being old and I believe that's part of the carcanos bad rep. Also most of the modern 6.5 carcano commercial ammo is slightly undersized making the bullet not engage the rifling effectively for high accuracy. Otherwise though I'd say for its time the carcano series were fine rifles.
ok I'll check that out. cheers
I have told you that the value of gold has gone down because more gold has been removed from the ground and virtually no gold has been destroyed. Supply-demand.
There are using the Cavalry carbine....not the short rifle.
John Powell was in jail on in the Dallas County Jail across from the TSBD saw two dark complected men in the southeast window on the 6th floor TSBD . Others in the jail at the time saw the same thing but were not called to testify. Robert HWest stood in the old courthouse, heard four shots.Ronald B Fisher and Robert E Edwards were standing opposite the TSBD saw a man in the 6th floor window, both heard more than 3 shots
Arnold & Barbara Rowland saw two men on the 6th floor TSBD , one in the west window had a gun, the other a dark complected man stood at the eastern window.
Carol Walther on Houston street also saw 2 men on the 6 th floor , she heard one shot then two more similtanously followed by a fourth.Ruby Henderson was standing on Elm Street and saw the same as Carol Walter and heard the same 4 shots , then 2 together followed by a 4th shot.
No, things don't cost 4x more, things are PRICED four times more. That's inflation. Cost is very different, as in "the car was redesigned so it cost much less to build" vs "A loaf of bread is priced much higher than 30 years ago though just as affordable".
It's well established in every industry for income and expenses should follow inflation, also banks paying interest on savings OR encouraging investment.
Japan has a problem of deflation, no one wants to invest.
i watched the film and it clearly shows nine seconds from first shot to the head shot. the first shot missed (prolly using the cheap scope) the other two shots he prolly used open sights seeing as it was such a close distance. its easy to cycle two aimed shots in nine seconds. especially for a veteran marine.
Also....Luck....or Chance...must be factored in. Just because your experts couldn;t do it, doesn;t mean that Oswald could not have been Lucky.
the price of an X box is determined by how much the consumer will pay for it. which means the price you see at the store is the ABSOLUTE MAX the public will pay for an item. its called market saturation price. it makes no difference if it cost the producer .13c or $13 to produce the finished product. it will still sell for $199 at the store. because that is the absolute most that someone is willing to pay for an item such as an X box. so no locally made x boxes WILL NOT cost more
That's a good point made at the end of this vid - the loading clip. Was it found? If so, how many bullets remained in it?
Fuck you Jack.
Jack Meadows
J. C. Day testified at the WC that 3 spent cartridges were found near the window, one live round was found in the chamber that was ejected by Captain Fritz, and the clip was still in the rifle. There exists a rather we'll known photo of the rifle being carried from the scene with the clip shown protruding from the magazine. Day's report prepared on 11/22/63 mentions the clip and the markings found on the clip. No additional rounds were found in the clip. As shown by the video above, and known to anyone who owns a Carcano rifle, it can be loaded with the clip containing anywhere from 1 to 6 cartridges. Oswald apparently had 4 loaded into his rifle on 11/22/63.
tolivr Good info! Thanks.
So there should have been 2 more rounds in the magazine with the clip. WHy would Oswald cycle the action after the third round?
We will never know why Oswald chambered the 4th and final round as he is dead. After firing the 3rd and fatal head shot, he might have chambered the final round to ready another shot, but then decided it was unnecessary, or perhaps he no longer had a good shot available. We'll never know as Oswald is dead.
If Oswald fired 3 rounds and chambered a 4th round that he never fired, and if he only had 4 rounds in the clip to begin with, then it makes sense that 3 spent rounds were located near the rifle, one live round was left in the chamber, with none left in the clip.
That’s not the right Carcano. That’s a Model 1891 Cavalry Carbine. The Kennedy rifle was a Model 1938.
Nope. It's not just the cost of plastic (which is more than a fraction of a cent), or even all the other elements like rare metals in power converter, it's the cost of the machinery and the research behind every component and technology involved, no way it takes less than 3 man hours of work per xbox on minimum wage.
they should reduce taxes to 1901 levels. the ONLY things the federal govt should do is provide for the general defence of the nation (military) and make sure that trade is made regular between the states. (not letting states set tarriffs to other states) (providing roads ports etc) every thing else should be left to the several states to decide what to do. they wouldnt NEED to take so much money if they stuck to their constitutional responsibilitys
@clev9980 The finding of the Oswald palm print was made after Oswald's murder, up to that time apparently everyone was unaware of it. The Oswald rifle palm print was supposedly found by Lt. Day on the first day of the murder, Lt Day claims to have told a few FBI agents but they could not recall the conversation. Even Day's assistant who was supposedly there when it was photographed refused to sign an affidavit testifying as to when it was found.
mystery science theater for ever. CROOOOOOOOOW
silver has indeed increased in price and vallue. several factors played into this. one silver is used in many products that didnt exist in 1982. two china allowed its people to own silver. bringing in 1 billion potential new buyers. three as people are waking up to the fact that fiat money is becoming obsolete they are snatching up as much copper silver and gold (if they can afford it) as they can. and copper and silver are more affordable so vollume of hoarding is more.
love the rifle
Further, if I were required to KILL today within a limited range, such as Dealey Plaza, I might actually prefer my Carcano. It is very compact and capable with either the side mount scope or the iron sights. As a sniper rifle, at relatively short range upon a moving target, it is superb. Those who would dub it to be a "humanitarian" weapon during World War II have never considered the "fate" of it's victims. A very simple weapon, but then, some today regard the modern Glock handgun as simplistic
Sorry for your troubles. I wish you well. I simply beg to disagree. 85 yards at a moving target downrange does not call for exceptionally remarkable shooting. If so, the hunting sports would not be so popular. Oswald was an above average shot and a bit of luck will also figure into most any sniper's role.
Yes, the point of desert island value shows there is no actual difference if you use fiat currency, gold itself, or gold-backed currency. The difference in the real world is there is NO CONTROL over the price of gold, that changes with fluctuating supply and demand. But Fiat money can be controlled.
Fiat money and Stock Shares are both good analogies, neither are backed by a gold-standard yet they are still valuable.
Is that Roger More narrating?
They're shooting at stationary targets at ground level. That's inaccurate and therefore doesn't count
... Fucking hell did roger moore do the narrating
Don't mix up price and COST. I am saying the COST of Xbox would be higher if it wasn't made in China. If the cost is higher than the price people will pay, the company doesn't make any money.
No one else (anywhere) makes Xbox because Microsoft OWNS the rights to that invention.
Um, the housing bubble has burst, market has realised how many houses are overvalued. Resorting a house from a craphole to nice is good, you have $2000 (store under your bed it loses value) or spend on restoring and you increase the value of the house by $10'000. You turned nails, screws and paint into something more valuable, a nice house. You MAKE WEALTH, not numbers-games with deflating currency.
the carcano holds six rounds in a manlicher en bloc
my bad its spelled Trabant with a b not a v
Um, the head of the Federal Reserve is appointed by the President of the United States and must follow his orders. Federal Reserve is NOT a private bank. Fed's profit goes to the government pocket. It is well established with Fiat Money that the government can print more money or less, that is how it pays for the Marine Corps and NASA, that along with Taxes.
I cant believe oswald acted alone.not to take anything away from his ability to shoot or the rifle either. when you want to get rid of a president a backup plan helps. just my thoughts.
Yes, the Dollar is worth fractionally less. But if more gold is mined and the price of gold goes down, then if Dollar was on a gold standard their money would be worth less suddenly. Gold is constantly mined from the ground and no gold is destroyed, while demand for gold can plummet.
Fiat Money IS worth something as it is tied to something of ACTUAL value: the total economic output of the United States. Gold doesn't have inherent value: on a desert island, what is gold worth?
investments are not the ONLY way a company can become prosperous. infact the a company SHOULD be able to provide its own capital needs without investments after it is off the ground. the other way to bring money in is...GASP...selling products. and people will buy more of your product if it is "deflated" than if it is "inflated" not only will individual people by multiple items MORE people will join in the buying feeding frenzy. THAT is the engine of capitalism not merely investments
Value of silver has changed hugely and unpredictably, as was done by just one banker tried to buy up enough of the world's supply of silver to overprice it then burst the bubble once he sold it.
Gold's value adjusted for average income is worth less because more gold has been mined and is in circulation.
Got a source on Mechanic being PAID $35 an hour. Equipment and resources ain't free and how much profit is garage owner taking?
The actuality AND the concept of the the Trabant is also completely different from the VW Beetle. The VW Beetle is AS IT WAS sold after the war: it was sold for capitalist price reasons to those who pay on their choice. It was not doled out.
If you want to see how the VW Beetle was intended to be sold, LOOK HOW IT WAS ACTUALLY SOLD, after the war, VW Beetles were sold like any other capitalist commodity.
when gold is mined and the price gos down snatch it up and horde it. making the vallue go back up. also when the population increases the demand would increase too.
right back at ya. when you are on a desert island what is fiat money worth?
Amos lee Euins saw a black man with a bald top fire a rifle from the 6th floor TSBD , he heard 4 shots. His mother recieved phone call death threats.
James Worell was standing below the TSBD heard a shot ,looked up saw a gun , heard two more shots and then a fouth as he ran away around the corner, as he was standing there , he saw a man run out the back door of the TSBD. described the man as 5' 7" 165 lbs dark hair.
Not one bullet retrieval test? The JFK bullet was pristine no mushrooming at all. Where is that test? I've never seen a rifle bullet not expand, even full metal jacket copper bullets. These were lead core.
No, not gold and silver for electronics, I mean Cadmium, Beryllium, Thallium, Cobalt, Tungsten, Gallium. What about Platinum, America needs tons of that for industry but has hardly any reserves.
Of the 17 rare earth metal mines in the world only one is in North America, most are in China.
That's just cherry picking, the value of Gold is right now skyrocketing and it has plummeted before irrespective of supply/demand for other resources/services. You also looking at a time period where NO major currency is back by bullion.
THE VALLUE OF GOLD HAS NOT GONE DOWN!!! it has remained stable for at least the last 30 years if not the last 111 years. the vallue of the DOLLAR has gone down predictably and consistantly ever since the fed reserve got its clutches on the american peoples pocket book
yes it could have happened .. but the thing that gets me is the 'last bullet' (which supposedly was the same type of bullet as you have mentioned) exploded on impact and none of its fragments were ever found even in the car ...'that' some think was an explosive bullet shot from the fence is irrelevant at the moment . LHO would n't have used different bullets, he didn't need to,as he was a damm good shot at 200yd range according to his marine records... Im not saying he did though lol
no the VALLUE of gold is remaining exactly the same. as you can purchase the same amount of goods and services with an ounce of gold as you could 30 years ago. the PRICE of gold is "skyrocketing" because the VALLUE of the dollar is plumeting. the last time the price of gold went down in any meaningful manner was during the recession of the early 90s the economy was in a DEFLATION and the dollar kept getting stronger and stronger reducing the price of gold.
EXACTLY so when goods are made here more people HERE have money in their pocket which they imediately go out and squander on more apples and x boxes and what not. they are RE INVESTING in their own economy. but when they buy goods OUTSIDE the country they are exporting their own wealth and are taking money OUT of their economy or DE vesting.
i bought my house for $40 000 and now its worth $17 000 and that is after i put $21 000 in renovations. into it. not that it really matters to me im not planning on moving out. and the cheaper vallue means my taxes are less. but your analogy is WAY off. grow up everything is a numbers game. somthing is only worth what somebody is willing to pay. i know someone who just paid $16000 for an old 60s military jeep because of the memories...is it worth $16k? not to me. but to him it was
credit gives a temporary stimulous but when the money is spent and all you are left with is debt means you need to borrow more and more and more and more to keep your spending. eventually you are working only to pay the min payment. digging a deeper debt is only going to make things worse in the long run. it would be painful in the short run to go through debt withdrawls but it has to happen. otherwise its over.
I have noticed that alot of people that recreate the shot always do it from down range. Why don't they accurately do it from the height LHO was at with tree that was obstructing his view and whilst shooting at a target that was going 20 to 25 miles per hour.
cheers for that info ... that bullet caused a lot of wounds, it does not seem credible that it could remain in one piece.
Yeah, rust belt has metal like iron and aluminium. Not the rare metals needed in circuit-boards. You can't make plastics from Fracking or oil Shale.
What? With deflation money grows in value by just putting it under your bed. With inflation the only way to get more money is by INVESTING in ways that CREATE WEALTH. Deflation means buy high, sell low. People will always defer purchases as their money will go further if they just wait a bit longer.
Ma non e’ che stiamo facendo un po’ di confusione !!! La cartuccia mostrata e’ del Carcano !! Ma la cartuccia stayr Manlicher era un 8x56 R !! E il sistema otturatore tutta un ‘altra cosa !!!
lol, this is funny, the narrator makes it seem as if a sniper would never choose a bolt action rifle. There are plenty of bolt action rifles still in use today, and as far as the wasted time of cycling a bolt, has he ever heard of a Lee Enfield
I mean investment in the broadest sense, as everywhere people earn currency (a representation of wealth) they put it back into the economy rather than putting it under their bed. Buying apples from a company that takes your money to make more apples is re-investing money you earned elsewhere.
all the preppers are buying up gold silver. and even nickels because of their copper content. a $2 roll of nickels has $8 worth of copper. and rising provided that they are older than 2008
so when the fed printed up that additional 600 billion and made the dollar in yuor wallet worth only .80c you dont think that made it worse? that is a 20% tax on the poor and working class
lol.. I know what you mean, but Oswald could shoot ok, his Marine M1 record shows he scored 48/50 and 49/50 at 200 yds range .. The range in Dealy plaza was 88yds, I think he missed with the first using a defected scope and scored twice with iron sights there after , any rifle is good at that range with someone who can shoot . There ain't nothin wrong with the Carcano, its good as... there is a lot of disinformation these days .
An analogy is not an explanation. The economy is not a heart, it isn't even like a heart. I could say "Imagine My idea is solid gold, and imagine your idea id a pile of turd, now which seem better?"
Sounds like Roger Moore?
But there IS NOT a significant demand for gold! The only value of gold is as a de-facto currency. On a deserted island, gold is worthless, goods and services are valuable. It is an OLD way of making things pretty, but it's not the only way any more.
All gold mining ever did was constantly devalue the currency of gold-backed currencies, government and people were worse off. But with Fiat money, government can CONTROL that inflation and REAP the benefits to INVEST in their nation.
but like i said before. we have been doing things YOUR way for 50 years or more and look where its gotten us.and the next 50 years is going to be even worse if somthing isnt done
That’s a lie saying that there was only 3 rounds. There were 4 and one left unfired. Why make all this up? It’s what fuels the conspiracies.. it’s easily found in the reports
think of the economy as a heart beat on an EKG it has several small ups and downs then a BIG up followed by a short leveling with minor ups and downs followed by a big down. then the process repeats THAT is an example of a healthy economy. with opportunity for rich and poor alike. now lets look at YOUR economy. when it starts to go down you artificially prop it up which in the short turn eases the pain but when it bottoms out their is no longer a mechenism to raise it up and it flat lines. beeep
on a deserted island fiat money is worthless. and mining gold is a lot slower at increasing supply than the printing press. i dont see how people were worse off because they could get more money and hold onto it till the vallue went back up. it was like being in the stock market. except instead of investing in shares of a company you were trading shares of the nation. it was a perfect system. depressions and recessions did happen but they always rebounded VIGOROUSLY...roaring 20s
I did not say that was the ONLY reason. Don't try to prop up your untenable argument by misrepresenting mine. People weren't investing in Japan LONG before the Tsunami.
right now the working class is at the mercy of the fluctuating vallue of fiat money. not gold which RETAINS its vallue. when Bernanke printed up $600 billion more dollars and sold it to themselves effectively inflating the economy and devalluing the dollar by 20% within three months a .99c candy bar cost $1.19 and gasoline went from $3.35 to $4.11 money is what money does and less money does more because it is more valluable
yes we could make an x box for $13 a unit. my buddy works for microsoft he is the one who told me. china makes them for a little over $2 a unit. i rounded down. the DIFFERENCE between $13 and $2 is 11. not they make it for $11. microsoft is already making $137 profit on an x box. they dont need to make $148 profit esspecially if it hurts the american economy to do it.
Sounds like Roger Moore's voice!
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Dude. I own a Carcano and Oswald's shooting is no great feat. 30 to 40 seconds to reaquire a target? Are you insane? You probably also believe Biden's gaffe that it takes 2 minutes to reload an AR-15. Oswald was nearly in line with the path of Keneddy's car, and the recoil on a Carcano is low enough that he could have kept a good sight picture in that scope for all 3 shots.
Shouldnt the real question be WHY oswald would chose a shitty gun IF he was a pro? Why in the world would a pro chose one of the shittiest guns in the world to commit this travesty? Especially after he supposedly missed the general months earlier?!? Nah makes little sense IMo. But hey who knows 🤣 btw im trolling if u dont get that lol
We see the movie to reload the rifle, the snipper misses the target, and have to find again, to the aim and shoot, someone believes that LHO sees a bladder of 15 cm to 100 meters moving at 20 km / h in 4.5 seconds (real time 2 for the third shot), someone believes that this miracle happened ..! Gentlemen, we are not fools does not exist! Because he missed the first shot, when I was 15 meters from JFK, without having to maneuver ... ladies please
ask yourself this. if YOUR way of running the economy is so great why are we in the mess we are in? its BECAUSE of the govt and the federal reserve. a bullion based economy cant be manipulated by political expedience. and if i were you i wouldnt plan on getting social security or cashing in your 401k cause those are going the way of the DODO
He has a bench rest. No evidence Oswald had a rest, and he had a misaligned scope. In fact to make the rifle function, the FBI had to add shims to get the rifle to sight properly. There was no shims in Oslwalds rifle. There was also only fingerprints INSIDE the stock (a partial palm print). No evidence Oswald had a oily rag to wipe the stock, trigger and bolt of any fingerprints. And he was not found wearing or carrying gloves. So how did he fire, wipe the gun clean, and get down to the 2nd floor and grab a coke, in time for the police to see him.
leftcoaster67 Well said also the car was moving away from him & they say your first shot will always be the best shot, after that you dont know what the Secret Service are going to do, which indicates to me, that with the sound of a hi powered rifle shooting at the president, yet the driver GREER just looks around to wait till the head shot happens & only then does the GG-300 take off at speed, which is also total BS Greer stopped the car in the first lane, thats when Connolly & Nellie get's the forward & then backwards movement, as John Costella has on his webpage, which is impossible to happen, unless you suddenly stop the car. So basically the Secret Service knew where the shot's were going to happen, thats why the driver stopped the car & allowed the snipers to make sure a head shot happened. cheers :)
leftcoaster67
1. The stock was too rough to hold prints. This information was testified to by experts at the WC. Moreover, useable prints are not often found on the metal parts of rifles as the jarring of the rifle during shooting acts to smudge any print. However, threads from Oswald's shirt were found on the rifle.
2. Ronald Simmons testified the azimuth could be set to make the rifle fire accurately if set at its maximum setting; however the FBI installed shins to make the setting permanent. No one will ever know if the scope was jarred, mishandled, misaligned, or otherwise moved by Oswald after he fired, or by others handling the rifle after it was discovered. The scope had signs of being scraped or damaged.
3. Oswald could have made his shots using the open (iron) sights. The scope was off mounted to the left of the rifle leaving the open sights free to use. The distances of the shots that hit JFK were only 58 and 88 yards, well within the range of someone using open sights.
4. At 10 or 11 mph, the limo moved only approximately 15 feet per second, or 1.5 feet per 1/10 a second. The rifle bullet traveled at 2000 feet per second, or 200 feet per 1/10 a second. As a Carcano 91/38 has its open sights set at 200 yards, it necessarily shoots high at 58 or 88 yards. This would have benefitted Oswald, if aiming at JFK's head, and made his shots easier if he used the open sights on a target moving directly away in a straight line.
tolivr The problem you have is all the prints & Evidence from OSWALD were found after his death & not before. :)
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Just off the top of my head I can think of several pieces of evidence, located before Oswald died, that tied Oswald to the assassination: the Carcano rifle was found at the TSBD within minutes of the assassination. Dallas police officer JC Day lifted the palm print from Oswald's Carcano on 11/22/63. The print is dated 11/22/63, notes on the print and that date on that print are written in Day's handwriting, and he testified he lifted it on that date, all before the FBI retrieved the rifle from Day on the 24th. When arrested on the 22nd, Oswald was found in possession of a fake ID in the name of Alek James Hidell--the same name that was on the forms from Klein's; forms that had been in that company's files for 9 months before the assassination, and the handwriting on those forms is positively identified to be Oswald's. On 11/22/63 Oswald was also arrested in possession of the correct caliber revolver that was later tied ballistically to the murder of Officer Tippet, and Oswald was positively identified by Virginia and Betty Davis, in a line up for the murder of Officer Tippet, before Oswald was killed.
The palm print was found on the INSIDE of the rifle, so how did he get palm print? The witnesses can't agree if it was a revolver or pistol. Oswald just throws the spent cases from the revolver where anyone can find them. And no extra bullets were found on his person. So he knew he was going to fire 4 shots? Because the revolver they found on him was fully loaded.
I care if someone is anti-semitic or not as that shows they make decisions by hate, not reasoned logic. I never said I don't care if someone is anti-Christian or anti other religions. I do object when people say equivalent defamation of Christians as with Jews.
@IndependentForPres What do you mean by the "magic bullet theory"?
Do you mean the reasonable theory that JFK and Governor's position and their injuries line up with a straight trajectory of a bullet from book depository?
Or do you mean the straw man argument that artificially places the persons an injuries in such a way that stupidly assumes the bullet makes a zig-zag trajectory, then suppose this was explained by "fancy physics".
It is not "fancy physics" to find holes mark a straight line.