Reminds me of the Kael'Thas fight where OTs need to use the dagger to dispel the mind control effect. That feel when you get to 70, but never leveled your dagger skills.
I actually used the misplaced servo arm on my rogue back in classic. Had the AQ40 quest dagger that you got outside cthun room. Only dps in my guild using 2 65dps weapons because everyone else was so focused on class spec.
4:00 "private server players gonna get recked by rag in mc" private server players proceeded to down rag in the first week of classic release and some of them weren't even 60 while mostly wearing green gear proving just how easy the content really was what a time to be alive
One of the best feral druid weps is 'lvl 34 Manual Crowd Pummeler' from Gnomeregan (if you are willing to farm it after it runs out of charges, it will be well worth). It has 15 str and 5 agi (but what you really want is) Use: Increases attack speed by 50% for 30 seconds (only 3 charges, but it's worth to see the half sec atking).
Alcor's Sunrazor: Faster weapons don't matter for rage due to rage normalisation. The whole 'fast weapon' thing for rage was a mistake in private server rage calculations (hence why you saw it being used on Nost early, they changed it later). You only need a fast weapon for tanking when you need to spam heroic strike (e.g. Vael). If he asked a tank they might have told him this.
fast weapon = steady rage generation since you need 10 rage for a skill right now every global and not the 22 rage a slower weapon would give in double the amount of time. it just smothes the rotation out so much better.
The Barov peasant caller is for hunter traps, especially if you're a rogue and they're waiting on the trap with a flare. You just pop the trinket have them absorb the trap and eat the hunter.
I love how he doesn't understand how to actually read statistics. Like, it's not about where on the number ranking they fall, it's about how much of a gap between them there is.
9:50 that's a decent point, I feel like a majority of game devs never sit down and think "what could we add to the game thats fun to do". I'm not even talking about the game itself beeing fun, you can obviously get enjoyment out of most games, but just mechanics or little things that are added literally just because "that would be fun to use" that don't serve a greater purpose within in the game. For instance, the ability to just play the ocarina in ooc. It doesn't do anything, they could've added a menu that plays the song or smth but they didnt, and look: there's a ton of videos online of people covering songs in ooc/majoras mask and I think everyone that played those games has sat there just playing the Damn thing at least once. And all that just because some guy thought it'd be fun to do
Belluar expressed this perfectly: Blizzard lack emotional intelligence. They simply don't understand what the player-base think is fun. The players have screamed they hate heavy RNG elements instead of a simple x chance to drop - but they've consistently pushed it the last X expansions. Players have screamed to bring back the unique features of the classes, which they are bringing back in shadowlands - but that's more the exception than the rule. Blizzard honestly thought an AFK house would be fun, random legendary loot dropping from random trash mobs in the overworld and thought having 100+ daily stuff to do was a good idea. Current Blizzard is a business and not a game company anymore.
Core issue of weapon skill is, that the tooltip of them never mentiones +hit. So nobody, just by looking at the infos you have in game would consider it good. Also, have people looked at the Eternal Palace weapons? Some are simply insane. Anu'Azshara has an absolutely monstrous AE burst potential, being able to oneshot an entire pvp Group. (Aside of course the absolutely fantastic stat line).
Hunters need 9% hit to cap, 3 from this 3 from talent, 2 rings from dm trib.. or the gloves from LBRS quest which had 2% hit.. so easy getting cap for huntards, loved it :D
Barov peasant caller and cannonball runner trinket are pro PVP trinkets. Spell pushback and also stops flag capping in AB Also, imagine everyone in you AB has this and you are pushing a cap, 30 peasants running around creates distraction, panic and chaos! Super fun
Venomous totems? No you can't constantly proc. Poisons have a proc per minute cap. This trinket could be useful for a little extra burst in pvp but long pve fights? Pretty crap.
11:25 that comparison he's bringing up makes absolutely no sense and I'm pretty sure he knows it himself. He is looking at the absolute highest level of M+, the 0,0001% of players that are doing 20+ keys. Obviously some classes will have the edge over others if you look at infinitely scaling conent. If you look at raiding, the classes in 8.2 are pretty balanced.
@@ayylmao2402 Yes, and I do agree that paladins are extremely strong right now. But have you seen what high end guilds used during the BoD raid? Many top guilds used shaman heals, often even more than one per fight. Now take a look at the wclogs healing statistics for BoD. You will see that shamans are last by quite a bit again. Shamans are always behind to other classes when it comes to pure HPS statistics because their healing requires a party to be somewhat stacked, their single target heals suck. If they nerf paladin by like 3-5% all heal classes would be pretty balanced aswell
I went Hemo with the Misplaced Servo Arm for a while back in vanilla I remember it was OP! Raid guild wouldn't put up with me raiding as hemo after a few bosses tho :( Understandable...
Wep skill is decent but some people say THC>TF because wep skill and this is simply not true at all tf will most of the time out dps thc as a offhand and rarely it procs often enough to be better all together
Barov pesant trinket. Have every single person in ZG bring one for Hakkar fight. Have every one pop the trinket while in poison. Watch as Hakkar drinks himself to death 75% faster.
strenght still gave attack power to rogues, just like agility did as far as i remember, it's true that agility gave you attack power, crit chance, and dodge chance, but why pass an item just because had strenght too?
>not including Earthshaker 2H mace in this video. sure a 3 second AOE stun proc is nothing amirite. with enough luck, as an Enhancement shaman, you can clear out a whole base in AB alone, assuming the enemy stays close (which they usually do as they all swarm you for a kill)
NOOO!!! No man - the venomous totem is NOT a good, or even remotely viable trinket for any sort of rogue - unless your trinket slots are severly undergeared at T2!! It is complete and utter GARBAGE compared to just about everything else you have access to at T2 level!
I think the Edgemaster's Handguards are actually awful, but they shine in Vanilla cos you're struggling to fill that hit rating effectively. I guess the Guards take on a lot of your hit rating which leaves your other BiS more open. So they'd be totally useless if you could find a better way to hitcap
BiS hands, awful...sure. Hit rating is EVERY THING for tanks. Tell me you know nothing about itemization without saying you know nothing about itemization.
@@Psilocybin77 they are objectively bad, man. They're badly designed because a lot of their stats are burned in two out of three weapons you're not using if you're a tank. Even if you dual wield two of these weapons, that still leaves a 3rd weapon stat increase as completely dead on these gloves. I'm saying they're good in Vanilla cos you need the hit rating and there probably aren't many other options in Vanilla to achieve that hit rating. They're BiS cos there's nothing else that opens more of your _other_ armour slots cos you'd be looking to fill the hit rating otherwise without the Handguards. Would you use these if hit rating wasn't a factor? Hell no, cos they suck. But you do need that hit rating and these gloves do a lot of that for you leaving you to pick up better stats in other slots
"i would need roll on that" proceeds to ninja loot dagger from grenade and tell him hes wrong and greedy and flame him infront of 60k people for rolling on it even tho he won the roll and he was a rogue
I got the edgemasters handguards when I was farming with my hunter last week. I was level 52 killing naga mobs in azshara. I sold it and got my devilsaur set and the dwarven hand cannon. When it dropped my heart was pounding lol
"I don't want every class to be balanced" -- looks at top charts and sees that game isn't balanced, "Look how dumb this is! Theres not even balance amongst classes!"
Yet they want classes to be "unique" and even have specs no longer unique, all of specs and classes become garbage unbalance mess cause people like him!
The items could do that in vanilla because the power creep wasnt as outrageous going from tier to tier. Now tier to tier is a 25 ilvl difference it's a hard issue to fix
im abit confused why that dagger is so good. the 10 % fire resist i understand but the proc? why does he talk about that so much? MC is mostly high fire res npc?
Also when attacks get parried, less downtime until the next attack. It is a minor thing, but considering dps is limited by your threat, anything you can do to achieve higher consistent threat benefits the entire raid massively. Generally once warriors get enough mitigation to survive the content, they should be focusing more on threat generation. It is little things like this that add up.
What if asmon did leveling competitions. You get two level 1's furst person to reach a set level wins and the winner gets a boon in a duel against the other competitor and they test their builds in each other
"maybe im being nostalgic" yeah you're being nostalgic. They had complexity without depth (known BiS at each tier) whereas they now have simplicity with depth. There were MANY garbage specs and tons of pains in the ass regarding quality of life. Classic WoW will siphon off a tiny amount of players and then people will go back to retail.
@bean machine A tiny fraction of the playerbase with broken brains have been playing Classic. The hype is almost entirely streamer-generated, it won't last more than a couple of months until people realize why retail is better and the rest of the people that never went back because they're smart welcome them back.
@@CyberneticArgumentCreator your are not wrong at all, now asmongold after rushing to Max level is playing retail alot more then classic, even after he unpreciating bash BFA as "worse" expansion ever! Yet later likes BFA and say it expansion is fun and good lol
there's so many crap items in vanilla I seriously think the devs didn't know what was best for players when they made the game , I think they only realised when nax came out ,look at tier 0.5 to probably 2.5 there are blues that are better then t1 ,that shouldn't be the case obviously so much work went into the art work and its not used shame
they can't even bring something useful like Windfury :( Enhancement shamans are considered gimps too, but Ret pally really is the bottom of the barrel. at least enhancement shamans can totem twist for windfury + 89 agi totem, along with improved strength totem, and use a nightfall in combination with windfury (and perhaps stormstrike if your raid leader allows it for the sake of nightfall procs) to buff the entire raids' casters.
Doesnt see the point of min maxing in PVE on classic.. Also on record as saying his play style is to clear dungeons and raids as fast as possible with no down time (the last video i watched about classic wow etiquette). Which one is it Asmon?
yeah but the question is; why WOULDN'T you get that helm? its literally the best in the game save for like T2-T3 helmets, and it drops in some easy dungeon like Zul'Farrak (i think)
Yes it seamed like all of the prep for endgame content was done in heroic 5 mans and almost every item you crafted or got from drops was replaced and just didnt matter. I remember in the first expansion after vanilla you were replacing all of your epics with green quest rewards and world drops.
i remember in bc they had the pvp marks i had stacked them all to max before i hit 70 annd had got the pvp gear well before hand so i was able to put on s1 gear soon as i hit cap it was great
He is looking at infinitely scaling content like M+, obviously some classes will be better when it comes to edging out every last % of the content. When it comes to raiding the classes are pretty balanced.
They have to balance the game more now (or have to, if we want mythic, mythic+ etc) and that is why we don't have almost all the things Asmon misses here. and yes, compared to other games, this game's balance level is insane. It's the intent that is the problem :)
raid balancing is pretty well done right now. Obviously some classes will be better than others when you look at infinitely scaling content like M+ at the very highest level. If you look at keys from lvl 10-15 the classes look much different.
Minmax in PvE Game Situation unless it is a Real challenge is absolutely pointless in my eyes. Basically Make sure to play the Game as Little as Possible..... is dumb in my Eyes.
i love that some of the best in slot items for raids are just level 40-50 shit. look at those edgemaster handguards; no strength, no agility, no stamina, etc. just +7 to 3 different weapon masteries. nowadays the best in slot items are either a legendary with super high stats, or an epic with super duper high stats
I am trying to look at the chat to get the consensus but literally half of them say “actually op” and the other half say “actually garbage”. Who are the neck beards and who are the spergs?
i might probably have missed something but why did asmongold started to get salty about especially retribution paladins? is it something to do with mccool?
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as a note, Strength is 2.5ap per point for ferals, not 2 ap.
They don't make the gloves for hammers/maces because of the stun proc in those weapons, it would essentially stun bosses
Warriors using daggers.....Almost historical correct regarding shield wall fighting where there were no room to sving or thrust a sword.
Is this entire comment section filled with illiteracy?
If you're clearing 40 man raids in 40 minutes it takes more time to get the raid together than it takes to do the raid
It will take much longer to even get world buffs for the raid than the raid itself at that point.
so what we learn from this video so far
step 1 : create lvl 1 warrior to tank
step 2 : only use thunder fury
@Thelondonbadger step 4 : ????
Reminds me of the Kael'Thas fight where OTs need to use the dagger to dispel the mind control effect.
That feel when you get to 70, but never leveled your dagger skills.
@@dushas9871 step 5: profit
you forgot step 0, get a job so you can pay to play a game from 2004
@@mcdontcare9106 you dont have to play for classic, you just need a subscription, just like you always have to?
I actually used the misplaced servo arm on my rogue back in classic. Had the AQ40 quest dagger that you got outside cthun room. Only dps in my guild using 2 65dps weapons because everyone else was so focused on class spec.
13:08 here's asmonbald before vanilla comes out
and here is him in phase 4: "Where are my bindings? Why haven't they drop already?"
I love that this video shows how involved pally and druids were with trinket strategies.
4:00 "private server players gonna get recked by rag in mc"
private server players proceeded to down rag in the first week of classic release and some of them weren't even 60 while mostly wearing green gear proving just how easy the content really was
what a time to be alive
"It will be hard to log off and not hard to log in" ahahahaha, if only he knew
shut your cute ass up
@@ashyslashy3636 lmao
Lmao the list of top healers... just druids all the way down the line for the first few pages.
@4:24 "I wonder why they don't increase the mace skill". EDGEmaster's handguards. Maces aren't blades.
tries to pretend he did it on purpose aswell...fucking sperg
One of the best feral druid weps is 'lvl 34 Manual Crowd Pummeler' from Gnomeregan (if you are willing to farm it after it runs out of charges, it will be well worth). It has 15 str and 5 agi (but what you really want is) Use: Increases attack speed by 50% for 30 seconds (only 3 charges, but it's worth to see the half sec atking).
Alcor's Sunrazor: Faster weapons don't matter for rage due to rage normalisation. The whole 'fast weapon' thing for rage was a mistake in private server rage calculations (hence why you saw it being used on Nost early, they changed it later). You only need a fast weapon for tanking when you need to spam heroic strike (e.g. Vael). If he asked a tank they might have told him this.
fast weapon = steady rage generation since you need 10 rage for a skill right now every global and not the 22 rage a slower weapon would give in double the amount of time. it just smothes the rotation out so much better.
I used Halberd of Smiting on my hunter and one shot a warrior once when it's ability and my Raptor Strike both crit....it was glorious.
The Barov peasant caller is for hunter traps, especially if you're a rogue and they're waiting on the trap with a flare. You just pop the trinket have them absorb the trap and eat the hunter.
if there's anything worth min maxing in vanilla its tank threat. No singular character can speed up a raid clear more.
The Staff from Azshara is one of the coolest items in retail atm. The Azshara items in General kinda cool like the benthic stuff.
woyers
hunners
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I love how he doesn't understand how to actually read statistics. Like, it's not about where on the number ranking they fall, it's about how much of a gap between them there is.
9:50 that's a decent point, I feel like a majority of game devs never sit down and think "what could we add to the game thats fun to do".
I'm not even talking about the game itself beeing fun, you can obviously get enjoyment out of most games, but just mechanics or little things that are added literally just because "that would be fun to use" that don't serve a greater purpose within in the game.
For instance, the ability to just play the ocarina in ooc. It doesn't do anything, they could've added a menu that plays the song or smth but they didnt, and look: there's a ton of videos online of people covering songs in ooc/majoras mask and I think everyone that played those games has sat there just playing the Damn thing at least once. And all that just because some guy thought it'd be fun to do
Belluar expressed this perfectly: Blizzard lack emotional intelligence. They simply don't understand what the player-base think is fun. The players have screamed they hate heavy RNG elements instead of a simple x chance to drop - but they've consistently pushed it the last X expansions. Players have screamed to bring back the unique features of the classes, which they are bringing back in shadowlands - but that's more the exception than the rule. Blizzard honestly thought an AFK house would be fun, random legendary loot dropping from random trash mobs in the overworld and thought having 100+ daily stuff to do was a good idea. Current Blizzard is a business and not a game company anymore.
Core issue of weapon skill is, that the tooltip of them never mentiones +hit. So nobody, just by looking at the infos you have in game would consider it good.
Also, have people looked at the Eternal Palace weapons? Some are simply insane. Anu'Azshara has an absolutely monstrous AE burst potential, being able to oneshot an entire pvp Group. (Aside of course the absolutely fantastic stat line).
Hunters need 9% hit to cap, 3 from this 3 from talent, 2 rings from dm trib.. or the gloves from LBRS quest which had 2% hit.. so easy getting cap for huntards, loved it :D
Even easier for trolls
Barov peasant caller and cannonball runner trinket are pro PVP trinkets.
Spell pushback and also stops flag capping in AB
Also, imagine everyone in you AB has this and you are pushing a cap, 30 peasants running around creates distraction, panic and chaos! Super fun
4:05 Edgemaster is what all my friends called me on December 1st.
If every person in asmon's raid thinks like him about min/max they going to have a bad time after bwl
What do you mean? That is the good way to look at mid maxing, because poeple tend to get rid of fun out of the game by playing too meta
i sometimes watch his videos and use his eyebrows as a drinking game, every time he moves his eyebrows up i take a drink lol
Venomous totems? No you can't constantly proc. Poisons have a proc per minute cap. This trinket could be useful for a little extra burst in pvp but long pve fights? Pretty crap.
almost a year later, and im still crying.......Tanks dont use daggers, they use swords get a thunderfurry...ok?
11:25 that comparison he's bringing up makes absolutely no sense and I'm pretty sure he knows it himself. He is looking at the absolute highest level of M+, the 0,0001% of players that are doing 20+ keys. Obviously some classes will have the edge over others if you look at infinitely scaling conent. If you look at raiding, the classes in 8.2 are pretty balanced.
Asdfer411 have you even seen the healing meta
@@ayylmao2402 Yes, and I do agree that paladins are extremely strong right now. But have you seen what high end guilds used during the BoD raid? Many top guilds used shaman heals, often even more than one per fight. Now take a look at the wclogs healing statistics for BoD. You will see that shamans are last by quite a bit again. Shamans are always behind to other classes when it comes to pure HPS statistics because their healing requires a party to be somewhat stacked, their single target heals suck. If they nerf paladin by like 3-5% all heal classes would be pretty balanced aswell
I went Hemo with the Misplaced Servo Arm for a while back in vanilla I remember it was OP!
Raid guild wouldn't put up with me raiding as hemo after a few bosses tho :(
Understandable...
Add lifesteal and its BiS for pvp hemo
Wep skill is decent but some people say THC>TF because wep skill and this is simply not true at all tf will most of the time out dps thc as a offhand and rarely it procs often enough to be better all together
15:00 this rant on minmax hasn't aged well after fucking over McConnell and guilt tripping him for taking warrior loot (because minmax, obviously)
Barov pesant trinket. Have every single person in ZG bring one for Hakkar fight. Have every one pop the trinket while in poison. Watch as Hakkar drinks himself to death 75% faster.
Except the peasants won't get the debuff and end up healing hakkar to 100%
strenght still gave attack power to rogues, just like agility did as far as i remember, it's true that agility gave you attack power, crit chance, and dodge chance, but why pass an item just because had strenght too?
Agility gave 2 ap vs strengths 1 ap
The Gauntelets probably don't give +7 to maces because of the name, its called EDGEmaster. PRobably
>not including Earthshaker 2H mace in this video.
sure a 3 second AOE stun proc is nothing amirite.
with enough luck, as an Enhancement shaman, you can clear out a whole base in AB alone, assuming the enemy stays close (which they usually do as they all swarm you for a kill)
I had that on a warrior and it became apparent really fast that it had no internal cooldown, and a whirlwind pretty much guaranteed a proc every time.
Using the wolfshead helmet now on hc classic. Didn't know about pairing it with the resto talent.
NOOO!!! No man - the venomous totem is NOT a good, or even remotely viable trinket for any sort of rogue - unless your trinket slots are severly undergeared at T2!!
It is complete and utter GARBAGE compared to just about everything else you have access to at T2 level!
i will always state that the best way to fix balancing issues is to start buffing the weaklings.
Platinum Wow and Punkrat, so happy that they’re getting the exposure close to classic’s release
I think the Edgemaster's Handguards are actually awful, but they shine in Vanilla cos you're struggling to fill that hit rating effectively. I guess the Guards take on a lot of your hit rating which leaves your other BiS more open. So they'd be totally useless if you could find a better way to hitcap
BiS hands, awful...sure. Hit rating is EVERY THING for tanks. Tell me you know nothing about itemization without saying you know nothing about itemization.
@@Psilocybin77 they are objectively bad, man. They're badly designed because a lot of their stats are burned in two out of three weapons you're not using if you're a tank. Even if you dual wield two of these weapons, that still leaves a 3rd weapon stat increase as completely dead on these gloves.
I'm saying they're good in Vanilla cos you need the hit rating and there probably aren't many other options in Vanilla to achieve that hit rating. They're BiS cos there's nothing else that opens more of your _other_ armour slots cos you'd be looking to fill the hit rating otherwise without the Handguards. Would you use these if hit rating wasn't a factor? Hell no, cos they suck. But you do need that hit rating and these gloves do a lot of that for you leaving you to pick up better stats in other slots
Edge Masters Hand Guards don't buff maces because.... EDGE Master.
"i would need roll on that" proceeds to ninja loot dagger from grenade and tell him hes wrong and greedy and flame him infront of 60k people for rolling on it even tho he won the roll and he was a rogue
I got the edgemasters handguards when I was farming with my hunter last week. I was level 52 killing naga mobs in azshara. I sold it and got my devilsaur set and the dwarven hand cannon. When it dropped my heart was pounding lol
Gotta love how Asmon talks shit about other classes, yet cant play a warrior himself.
Basically, even my lowbie warrior tank does better job pvping then him
they made a bounch of cool items in CoS but everyone hated it...
LOL, cuz its basically flavor tekst
i used barovs when mining so i could get the node uninterrupted
"I don't want every class to be balanced" -- looks at top charts and sees that game isn't balanced, "Look how dumb this is! Theres not even balance amongst classes!"
Yet they want classes to be "unique" and even have specs no longer unique, all of specs and classes become garbage unbalance mess cause people like him!
Having Ret Paladins in your raid means you are already disabled because you rolled Alliance...
Yer no wind fury = disabled.
Doomhide gauntlets trash any pair of gloves in the game....+42 attack power..14 agi/14 stam 8 shadow and fire resis... POG dude POG
4:30 Because its EDGEmasters not bluntmasters... makes sense.
Edgy.
Did ya'll know Seal of Command procs on hit effects?
ya'll fuck you
Manual crowd pumeler is BiS for druids all the way through classic and it drops from low level dungeons
The items could do that in vanilla because the power creep wasnt as outrageous going from tier to tier. Now tier to tier is a 25 ilvl difference it's a hard issue to fix
Maces don't have edges, otherwise it would be Weaponmaster's Handguards?
classic launch was incredible
"dont min max in pve" also wont let ret paladins raid and Fdruids
Lol, we had one feral druid in the guild in classic and he ALWAYS went afk... Talking about you Stubba.
im abit confused why that dagger is so good. the 10 % fire resist i understand but the proc? why does he talk about that so much? MC is mostly high fire res npc?
1.3 sec attack speed means a lot of heroic strikes to maximize threat before Thunderfury or naxx gear.
Also when attacks get parried, less downtime until the next attack. It is a minor thing, but considering dps is limited by your threat, anything you can do to achieve higher consistent threat benefits the entire raid massively.
Generally once warriors get enough mitigation to survive the content, they should be focusing more on threat generation. It is little things like this that add up.
I thought the bell dropped in the scarlet monastery
Ha! I still have Barov’s Peasant Caller in my bank. I am tempted to just bring it out for shit’s one day
What if asmon did leveling competitions. You get two level 1's furst person to reach a set level wins and the winner gets a boon in a duel against the other competitor and they test their builds in each other
"maybe im being nostalgic" yeah you're being nostalgic. They had complexity without depth (known BiS at each tier) whereas they now have simplicity with depth. There were MANY garbage specs and tons of pains in the ass regarding quality of life. Classic WoW will siphon off a tiny amount of players and then people will go back to retail.
@bean machine It's just flat out a worse game and will only hold nostalgia zombies after 2 months max.
@bean machine A tiny fraction of the playerbase with broken brains have been playing Classic. The hype is almost entirely streamer-generated, it won't last more than a couple of months until people realize why retail is better and the rest of the people that never went back because they're smart welcome them back.
@bean machine See you back on retail in a few months, dipshit
@@CyberneticArgumentCreator your are not wrong at all, now asmongold after rushing to Max level is playing retail alot more then classic, even after he unpreciating bash BFA as "worse" expansion ever! Yet later likes BFA and say it expansion is fun and good lol
i assume the items are cooler because they are more individually designed, nower days you seemengly have item designed in bulk.
there's so many crap items in vanilla I seriously think the devs didn't know what was best for players when they made the game , I think they only realised when nax came out ,look at tier 0.5 to probably 2.5 there are blues that are better then t1 ,that shouldn't be the case obviously so much work went into the art work and its not used shame
16:46 rip ret pallys
brutal
they can't even bring something useful like Windfury :(
Enhancement shamans are considered gimps too, but Ret pally really is the bottom of the barrel.
at least enhancement shamans can totem twist for windfury + 89 agi totem, along with improved strength totem, and use a nightfall in combination with windfury (and perhaps stormstrike if your raid leader allows it for the sake of nightfall procs) to buff the entire raids' casters.
Nostalgia? Tell you what , I'm feeling pretty nostalgic about Punkrat's content rn
His eyebrows always tell the real story.
Edgemasters = wpns that have edge.. maces are blunt wpns
Doesnt see the point of min maxing in PVE on classic.. Also on record as saying his play style is to clear dungeons and raids as fast as possible with no down time (the last video i watched about classic wow etiquette).
Which one is it Asmon?
“Edgemaster’s Handguards”
kek
you can and should powershift even without the druid helm if you play cat tho
yeah but the question is; why WOULDN'T you get that helm? its literally the best in the game save for like T2-T3 helmets, and it drops in some easy dungeon like Zul'Farrak (i think)
the mana that droods need for shifting is raping them tho, u need uber mana regen + pots + innervate to make a dent into the dmg meters...
Hey, I use Thunderfury in Diablo III lol.
Ewwww, Diablo III.
@@samenrud666 Dude.
lmao talking about edgies selling for 1000g
Yes it seamed like all of the prep for endgame content was done in heroic 5 mans and almost every item you crafted or got from drops was replaced and just didnt matter. I remember in the first expansion after vanilla you were replacing all of your epics with green quest rewards and world drops.
The irony of a video about a blizzard game and someone in chat misused "QQ" is funny.
Lol, I think I still have the Pleasant Caller in the Void Storage.
Wanna hear a joke? Asmongold walks into MC.
Spell power Rogue!! I Remember that haha cant remember if it was on a private server probably was I played on a couple for a while
Hardest part of classic is the que times lmao
Complains about weapons for min-max certain classes while at the same time complaining about classes like paladin and feral druid
Feenix ? That server was out even before Nostalrius this should be a pretty old vid
i remember in bc they had the pvp marks i had stacked them all to max before i hit 70 annd had got the pvp gear well before hand so i was able to put on s1 gear soon as i hit cap it was great
11:23
I just feel really balanced right now.
He is looking at infinitely scaling content like M+, obviously some classes will be better when it comes to edging out every last % of the content. When it comes to raiding the classes are pretty balanced.
They have to balance the game more now (or have to, if we want mythic, mythic+ etc) and that is why we don't have almost all the things Asmon misses here. and yes, compared to other games, this game's balance level is insane. It's the intent that is the problem :)
let remove everything that can be fun for the sake for balance
raid balancing is pretty well done right now. Obviously some classes will be better than others when you look at infinitely scaling content like M+ at the very highest level. If you look at keys from lvl 10-15 the classes look much different.
@@crocopde classic has nothing fun either lol
@@TonyNumber9 go play ur casino and fk off
@@crocopde have fun with army of other people ninja looting your gloves lol
Bruh pvp is for the end game imo just cause pve is straight forward and doesn’t level with you
Harder to log off than log In....that's a false
Minmax in PvE Game Situation unless it is a Real challenge is absolutely pointless in my eyes.
Basically Make sure to play the Game as Little as Possible..... is dumb in my Eyes.
Hard to log off not hard to log in.... well that aged like milk
If an item sells for 1k gold can it still be considered underrated?
Wow, 39 minutes instead of 40, so good!
While leveling a mage on Kronos I actually picked up edgemasters. Sold them for 2k gold
@@ZugzugZugzugson nah I was solo leveling. Picked it up off a buzzard in blasted lands
i love that some of the best in slot items for raids are just level 40-50 shit.
look at those edgemaster handguards; no strength, no agility, no stamina, etc. just +7 to 3 different weapon masteries.
nowadays the best in slot items are either a legendary with super high stats, or an epic with super duper high stats
Who cares for Ret Paladin?!? With Heart of Wyrmthalak imagine wind fury Shami with 2 of the fastest weapons o.o
Why would they need 2 fast weapons ?
I am trying to look at the chat to get the consensus but literally half of them say “actually op” and the other half say “actually garbage”. Who are the neck beards and who are the spergs?
They are all both.
I dont give a shit about what people did on private servers when they had weird bugs lol
i might probably have missed something but why did asmongold started to get salty about especially retribution paladins? is it something to do with mccool?
yeah, they're basically rivals and friends at the same time
Thunderfury is coming
Crazy how cringe his chat was back then