Vickers & Jones - "Pur ti miro" - Poppea Paris 1974

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  • "Pur ti miro"
    Poppea - Gwyneth Jones
    Nerone - Jon Vickers
    Monteverdi - L'incoronazione di Poppea
    Paris 1974
    c. Julius Rudel

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  • @stefanmuller5511
    @stefanmuller5511 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fantastisch gesungen. Ich finde das Tempo wunderbar.

  • @bettewoodland1157
    @bettewoodland1157 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Unlike any version I've ever heard and certainly not Baroque in character. But divinely beautiful all the same.

    • @operamaniak81
      @operamaniak81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      On the contrary - it's very baroque in style: extravagant, shocking, experimental, virtuosous and simple at the same time.
      I think that we've been flooded with fake "proper" baroque of bad vocalists and instrumentalists who fooled us that 400 years ago the stages were miniscule and opera was the thing of amateurs. That's not true. Monteverdi wrote for halls with 6000 seats, and had adequate singers and orchestra. And was the ultimate experomentator - he created a new genre: opera, and in one play mixed all from speaking to timeless singing, why not - anything to paint pictures and deliver emotions. And what would he say hearing Vickers and Jones? What he'd make them do? Wobble like Bartoli? Give me a break.
      On the other hand, if you look closer at how the baroquists
      reconstruct what the composers had in mind, you'll be disillusioned... It's interesting, but not more stylish than the Vickers-Jones one.

  • @kymanthony3977
    @kymanthony3977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just imagine. The ‘73/‘74 season saw Vickers perform Tristan, Otello and Les Troyens, a formidable task I don’t believe accomplished by any other dramatic tenor, and then this ethereal masterpiece. Really incredible.

  • @wotan10950
    @wotan10950 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Improbable, but exquisite. Who could imagine that these two Wagnerian voices could scale down and sing so ethereally? Time stands still.

    • @wotan10950
      @wotan10950 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I forgot to mention the story about Julius Rudel’s admonishment to Gwyneth Jones - he reportedly told her, “You have a Rolls Royce voice, there’s no need to press down all the way on the gas pedal.” Jones has always had a tendency to oversing, but she is exquisite here using the soft lyric part of her voice.

  • @MariaCaIIas
    @MariaCaIIas 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here I am listening to this out of every canon for baroque as we believe to know it today and yet quite sure that Monteverdi would be THRILLED!

  • @Ramir_Almeida
    @Ramir_Almeida 14 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why baroque opera must sound boring? Singers without voice should be sent somewhere.
    Poor, poor Monteverdi. Thanks God things like this happens once in a lifetime.
    Bravi, bravi!
    Beside the great voices, can't tell if it's cuz of the recording, but it's a bit confusing. "Unclear". But still love those wagnerian full of harmonic voices singing such a delicate repertoire. Absolutely works.
    In fact, this lower repertoire, I prefer with fuller voices, and they're perfectly capable of singing piano.

  • @rafzen6967
    @rafzen6967 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    C'était en avril 1978, pas en 1974... (j'y étais).

  • @operamaniak81
    @operamaniak81 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vickers is here after his best, however, smashing what accuracy and gentleness he achieves!! In the performance noticeable is also profound and clear voice of Ghiaurov - here absent - and unimaginably crystal vibrato of young Jones. Why, oh why isn't it available on DVDs????

    • @ransomcoates546
      @ransomcoates546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I heard him in ‘Parsifal’ as late as 1986 and he was still in completely robust voice.

  • @catrynn
    @catrynn 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nowadays the mezzos sing Nero but I don't think they sound or look as good as Vickers. Such singing from such a powerful voice. they are both remarkable

  • @Jill23Kim
    @Jill23Kim 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful

  • @alexandrevlad37
    @alexandrevlad37 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Grande, grande Vickers.

  • @sgnmath1234
    @sgnmath1234 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @gotterhaus
    I believe it was Julius Rudel ( Ihave a disc of this production and JR is the conductor) so I assume he conducted all the performances, although it may not necessarily be the case.

  • @giacominifan
    @giacominifan 16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great performance. Funny, this acting performance reminds me of their Wagner work.

  • @ransomcoates546
    @ransomcoates546 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everything from the singers to the incorrect rhythms is wrong - but it’s wonderful.

  • @mckavitt
    @mckavitt 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great singing, yes, but should Nero be sounding gentle? Read the plot. In 9 months, Poppea's lust for the crown & Nero's lust for possessing & empowering her, all at any cost, will cost Poppea her life a pregnant 9 months later. He will kick her (& their baby) to death. We should both see & hear all this as foreseeable here in this "love" duet, as elsewhere. But gorgeous singing, agreed.

  • @disneylandman66
    @disneylandman66 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    too slow