Injury free since following Doug's brig-20. At age 64 "better" means reducing potential injury. Wish I had known Doug's teaching when I first started in the gym. I see many people in the gym inviting potential life changing injury because they don't know there's an optional safer and more effective exercise.
The difference between all of Doug's detractors & Doug is that Doug actually 'cuts to the chase' with clear unambiguous protocols (somewhat opinionated - but then who isn't?) that can be implemented immediately. In the past 2 months of implementing Brig 20 in my workouts, & at 63 with 40 years of working out (using 'proven' protocols), I am seeing & feeling strength & growth increases in lats, chest, quads & shoulders - all without any joint issues. This was a great 'discussion' - but what can actually be taken away from it to implement other than a lot of grey areas? Who cares if the 'math' is slightly wrong (which is debatable)? What is indisputable is that Doug's protocols are clearly laid out & actually work....I can testify to that
Now that Doug is dead and having just watched this video, and having tried Dougs suggestions, I would say I'm with Doig on this one. I've have been shocked by the amount of growth with no straining or injuries. I would definitely suggest picking up the Physics of Fitness. Math may be exaggerated but so what.
I'm not knowledgable enough to claim to be able to judge what Kassem is presenting here, it is very humbling to listen. But it is very inspiring that there are committed individuals like him researching all of this stuff, and someone patient enough like Abel, to conduct a detailed discussion of the matter. Brilliant. I'm sure that in due course you'll both have huge followings.
Biomechanics are individual. Every one of us have slightly different bones and muscle attachments. Both Doug and Kaseem are probably right from their own perspective. For me the takeaway is that I have to learn, experiment and find my own ways.
I listened to both Doug and Kassem. I came into it bias, knowing Doug's teachings first. I bought his book and I apply his techniques. In the end I am still using what doug is saying, it seems to make sense to me. So that's where I am at ultimately. However as a lay person, regular gym goer, it's difficult to tell who is right. Doug will say something and then Kasemm says that's not the case because of xyz and Doug saying it is the case.....it's actually fairly difficult for a regular person to know whose right. However I'm the end like I said I do believe what Doug is teaching and I'm using it. Still it was an interesting listen
@@Golden2Talon interesting experience. I've been training like that for like maybe 6 months. I'm very muscular but I also was before hand. I have been working out for 20 years, so it's hard to make gains anymore. I actually did get some injuries but I don't think it's because of the lifts per say just overuse. Overall I like his training style.
Then why is it that many gym goers suffer from; number one, shoulder problems, 2 back problems and 3 knee problems? Nobody talks about the orthopedic cost factor of doing so-call compound movements and insufficient isolation movements.
I appreciate kassems attempted take down of Brignole, however I've been training 35 years, and made my most progress when I've adopted Doug's principles and exercises. Lat pull ins and decline db press has really improved upper body hypertrophy.
Thats awesome for you. That means in some way or fashion what you are doing is better than what you were doing before, but be careful assuming it means you have reached the best methods you could potentially use.
@@N1education you come across as you haven't even read or seem to have comprehended the book Doug authored. 😑 recommend you actually read and comprehend.
@@rockon8174 I find this the oddest comment considering I read the book and watched every video in the brig 20 and physics of fitness videos. Please remember than when you read someone else work you are interpreting based on your understanding and perspective. There are things I agree and disagree with, and it’s not always black and white.
Liked before watching ! Kassem is the best in the biz when it comes to biomechanics on youtube, so instant like :) Also Abel, just realized Dave just interviewed Kassem on his channel too lmao !
Doug's a bright guy and has performed every possible exercise throughout his life. He built a world class physique at a very young age and learned from the best. Doug is attempting to simplify movements for novice trainees.
Doug's going to do a response video. This should be good, these two conduct themselves in a respectful manner. Was surprised that Kassem didn't realize that the cable squat was not part of the Brig20, after he said he read the book and videos.
This was not limited to the Brig 20, more so the logics behind the exercise ranking system. the cable squat is listed as an alternative still ranked higher than the squat. It’s also an exercise that people asked about. So having it in the continuum presented value.
doug is very often disrespectful to people he disagrees with. that was actually the reason i stopped following him. hell, the response to N1 was titled "N1....Deceptions For Self Profit". He also made personal attacks against geoffrey verity schofield. he frankly needs to grow up.
good stuff! Thanks for having him on. just listened to a few parts of this podcast so far but really feels like this is clarifying some aspects which were left out from his rebuttal of Doug Brignole and diving into the other muscle groups/movements, not discussed on there as well.
Regarding Doug's side of the matter, when he used the term "efficiency", I was under the impression that he is considering the force angle to the active lever, insofar as maximum efficiency would be 90 degrees (such as that which is sustained through a leg extension). In any quad dominant "press" variation, you would never approach anywhere near 90 degrees force angle on the tibia. This inefficiency might be illustrated in how much load becomes necessary to place on the leg press, even with a very low foot position. In his defence, I have personally seen him state that in his lat pull in variation, he does not promote lateral spine flexion, rather he advises to depress the shoulder on the working side at the bottom of the motion.
That’s really just different words to say about the same thing. But the angle is not linearly proportionate to the loading, which is the issue with the models. One of the challenges of this evaluation was between the different forms of content there were varying descriptions of things. I assumed that since the brig 20 videos were the newest, that those would be the most current and in those videos he does have Moe both rotating and side bending.
@@N1education Ok that's fair enough, I haven't seen those videos or any of the paid content, except the book which I bought in 2019. Of course I agree the force angle is one factor and ultimately the torque comes down to the moment arm. Personally I could see that the pull ins would not be effective, and that neither would the cable or free standing sissy squats, so never even attempted those. However, it is frustrating not to have access to squat machines. Despite performing leg presses after leg extensions, and with heels off the bottom of the plate, it's obvious they're not very effective, especially regarding return for the load used. I expect this could be enhanced with reverse bands placed, to some degree. Excellent food for though in your content. Trying to get my head around what you advise for humeral abduction angle in chest movements (historically I always kept my elbows tucked as it just felt stronger and more comfortable), and the angles for achieving lengthened lat positions, which do look tricky to implement.
@@N1education thanks for taking time to reply, very much appreciated. I went over to the US in 2014 and 15 to attend Tom Purvis's classes, so much still to learn.
@@BodyOpt you may enjoy this video I did that goes into a little more nuance on the topics you are referencing. It's still simplified down for social media in terms of defining moment arm etc. But with your background, this should resonate well, and you are spot on in regards to using the accommodating resistance on the machines. I reverse band them the majority of the time for hypertrophy goals.
Here's a faster rebuttal: If Brignole is gonna talk about other's biomechanics understanding, he should get a basic clue himself. His comments on the pecs and lats show a less than kindergarten understanding of what's going on. Nothing else is even relevant past that.
I agree that those are probably the most offending exercises (pecs/lats) in regards to biomechanics. However I don’t think that such blunt messaging will reach anyone that is convinced otherwise. The purpose of these conversations is to reach the people with an opposing view, not pander to those that agree, so my approach is more measured to hopefully ease the viewer into being open minded. The goal is to decrease the number of people that will just become defensive and double down on their beliefs rather than being open to critical thinking.
@@ohno837 he explained in the video. watch the video lol. Doug clearly doesn't understand physiology and exercise. He a physics expert, working out is not all physics. It's about overall efficiency not to single out one mechanism.
Doug Brignole is the classic example of someone trying to reinvent the wheel for no reason. I’ll stick with compound exercises and actually build muscle.
Imagine how big Ronnie, Dorian and Arnold would have been if they had done sissy squats instead of heavy barbell squats. It’s a shame Doug Brignole wasn’t there to coach them.
Well, Dorian eliminated them before his Pro days, and they had already caused a tear in his hip/quad. And perhaps Ronnie would have had fewer spine surgeries...certainly had he loaded the spine FAR less through his career.
Yeah that's why Ronnie ended up on the wheelchair and even Dorian if you watch his videos saying doen't train any more due to lot of injuries, your argument is worthless.
if you're referring to me, then well...I wonder about that too :'D If you mean Kassem, for all we know he could be the best physique of all time if he got lean enough.
@@ssdabel not talking about you, talking about Kassem, not saying he doesn't know his stuff just he looks fat and seems winded while talking not good for someone in his line of work..
Great discussion. Thanks. Re. 1:08:40, I thought that the lateral delt was the lats antagonist, not the pecs (shoulder abduction vs. shoulder adduction). Am i wrong?
Lat is better as shoulder extensor when the arm stay close to the body(leverage the rib cage), not much as a shoulder adductor. Take a look at Kassem's IG
Hi Kristian, which FB group are you referring to? I used to have one but that no longer exists as my account got terminated by the kind facebook crew..
This is what I hate about TH-cam. Have a show with one person/school of thought and then another with a different school of thought. Have both schools of thought on the same damn show for a formal discussion!!
Biomechanics is new to most of the public and we have 2 guys (U and Doug) trying to teach it disagreeing on everything about it. What does that say to the public? I dont know u and your explanations did not simplify or explain anything, u were all over the place so I will stick with Doug. Hey man if your gonna try to teach something at least have a plan so the people watching can understand what you're trying to say. This was a terrible, terrible explanation of biomechanics and I'm not bragging but I am a smart guy and I got nothing from your speeches
We REALLY need to STOP thinking like a bodybulder and START thinking like a normal human being who goes about his day NOT sitting in a chair and isolating muscles. Normal human beings QUAT down and stand back up (SQUAT) bend down and pick things up (DEADLIFT) Push things forward while on your feet (BENCH) and put things on a shelf WHILE standing up NOT sitting in a char ( OVERHEAD PRESS) train MOVEMENTS not individual muslces.. Bodybuilding has brainwashed 99% of those who go to the gym. Google STARTING STRNGTH
Human beings don't overhead press 120 kg or press 160 kg forward or deadlifts 220 kg. They're Never submiting their spines to ALL that Crazy Axial loading. Total load Will become a problem for your joints and recovery.
Nope, with all the respect, Kaseem is wrong with most of the thing he says. I respect his work and people like him, but I don't agree with a lot of things he said. No hate. We re here to get better. Doug s math is not right either, but his principles are relevant. Also mister Kaseem seems to lack basic knowledge when it comes to anatomy. His explication about using he long head of the Triceps is hilarious though he admitted that all 3 heads are connected to the elbow by a single joint. All the best!
Yes of course. Also I belive we can learn from both of them, Doug and Kassim, even though I agree more with Doug(not completely). It s hard to write all that I think in a TH-cam comment but to summarize my opinion I ll say the Brignole principles are more reliable to me, just make more sense also does work when I tried his methods, even though his maths is incorrect. For me it doesn't matter if the math is accurate as long as I can perform better exercises even if they are only by a small percentage better than the 'traditional' ones, as long as it works and it keeps my body healthy I am happy. On the other side Kassim just doesn't convince me with all his explications regarding exercise selection. I don't agree with many things. I already said for me It doesn't work, to activate the long head of the Triceps more and stuff like that, maybe because I don't belive in emg studies, cause they are not taking all the extra details, such as range of motion, strenght curve, direction of the resistance and maybe more stuff than I can think right now. You can do any isometric exercise you want and the emg studies will show a lot of tension in the muscle and will result that particular exercise is great for the muscle. It s just not working like that. Also I don't agree with Kassim view regarding muscle anatomy, fibres, or the way that he understand and said that the muscle are working. I don't see the benefit to cross your arm in front of the body for more Lat activation, it doesn't make sense for me, also some other things that he said regarding chest training. I just don't see the sense, nothing personal, he clearly is a nice guy with good intention it just that his methods are not enough to convince me he s right. He is right about Doug maths being inaccurate and that s pretty much where I agree with him, other than that no, and I am looking at the big picture here, trying to benefit from all of this free info, so again Tha k you for that, and sorry if I offended anyone. Cheers
@@octavianandron9418 Kassem used EMG In conjunction with MOXY to validate the exercise which I think it's one of the best method we can use to experiment in an in-house condition, EMG for measuring muscle activation & MOXY for measuring the degree of O2 depletion in targeted muscle to see if any of the division of tested muscle is a prime mover/most bias over the other division in each exercise.
It might be, I don't think they have no benefits, but hence they can't consider the rest of the details that makes an exercise efficient, I don't really consider them important, meaning you can hold a dumbell in ur hand and the measurements will show that is great for the muscle targeted, I am guessing they will show that, I am not sure. In anyway aia don't agree with coach Kaseem saying you can rely biase a head of the Triceps, no matter what any emg will show, and I don't think it matters that much since you are always, I repet always, you will use all your 3 heads when your working the Triceps using any Triceps exercise!
Thanks for having me Abel. It was a pleasure discussing this with you. Hopefully it is received as well as intended.
Thank you Kassem!
And thanks for doing this with Abel, as well with making this channel an excellent one as always. Thanks to you both!
Fraud
Injury free since following Doug's brig-20. At age 64 "better" means reducing potential injury. Wish I had known Doug's teaching when I first started in the gym. I see many people in the gym inviting potential life changing injury because they don't know there's an optional safer and more effective exercise.
The difference between all of Doug's detractors & Doug is that Doug actually 'cuts to the chase' with clear unambiguous protocols (somewhat opinionated - but then who isn't?) that can be implemented immediately. In the past 2 months of implementing Brig 20 in my workouts, & at 63 with 40 years of working out (using 'proven' protocols), I am seeing & feeling strength & growth increases in lats, chest, quads & shoulders - all without any joint issues. This was a great 'discussion' - but what can actually be taken away from it to implement other than a lot of grey areas? Who cares if the 'math' is slightly wrong (which is debatable)? What is indisputable is that Doug's protocols are clearly laid out & actually work....I can testify to that
Now that Doug is dead and having just watched this video, and having tried Dougs suggestions, I would say I'm with Doig on this one. I've have been shocked by the amount of growth with no straining or injuries. I would definitely suggest picking up the Physics of Fitness. Math may be exaggerated but so what.
I'm not knowledgable enough to claim to be able to judge what Kassem is presenting here, it is very humbling to listen. But it is very inspiring that there are committed individuals like him researching all of this stuff, and someone patient enough like Abel, to conduct a detailed discussion of the matter. Brilliant. I'm sure that in due course you'll both have huge followings.
Biomechanics are individual. Every one of us have slightly different bones and muscle attachments. Both Doug and Kaseem are probably right from their own perspective. For me the takeaway is that I have to learn, experiment and find my own ways.
I listened to both Doug and Kassem. I came into it bias, knowing Doug's teachings first. I bought his book and I apply his techniques.
In the end I am still using what doug is saying, it seems to make sense to me. So that's where I am at ultimately.
However as a lay person, regular gym goer, it's difficult to tell who is right. Doug will say something and then Kasemm says that's not the case because of xyz and Doug saying it is the case.....it's actually fairly difficult for a regular person to know whose right.
However I'm the end like I said I do believe what Doug is teaching and I'm using it. Still it was an interesting listen
I gotta give you props, bc you made a decision and stuck with it. Good luck with you gains! 👍
@@peetos-chan2835 thanks man
Only Doug is able to explain things in a clear and logical way, plus he's way more hands on.
i trained as doug said for 3 years. let me tell you the result sucks. only pro is no tightness and no pain. but also no mass and strength
@@Golden2Talon interesting experience. I've been training like that for like maybe 6 months. I'm very muscular but I also was before hand. I have been working out for 20 years, so it's hard to make gains anymore.
I actually did get some injuries but I don't think it's because of the lifts per say just overuse. Overall I like his training style.
Then why is it that many gym goers suffer from; number one, shoulder problems, 2 back problems and 3 knee problems? Nobody talks about the orthopedic cost factor of doing so-call compound movements and insufficient isolation movements.
You know what extreme amounts of non gym goers suffer from? shoulder problems, back problems and knee problems...
Type orthopedic cost of resistance training into pubmed. I will wait.
I appreciate kassems attempted take down of Brignole, however I've been training 35 years, and made my most progress when I've adopted Doug's principles and exercises. Lat pull ins and decline db press has really improved upper body hypertrophy.
Thats awesome for you. That means in some way or fashion what you are doing is better than what you were doing before, but be careful assuming it means you have reached the best methods you could potentially use.
@@N1education you come across as you haven't even read or seem to have comprehended the book Doug authored. 😑 recommend you actually read and comprehend.
@@rockon8174 I find this the oddest comment considering I read the book and watched every video in the brig 20 and physics of fitness videos. Please remember than when you read someone else work you are interpreting based on your understanding and perspective. There are things I agree and disagree with, and it’s not always black and white.
@@rockon8174 read the book...say the doug sheeple lmao
Brilliant episode!
That was very informative and I was waiting for it for a long time. Was not disappointed, thanks!
thanks a lot!
Liked before watching ! Kassem is the best in the biz when it comes to biomechanics on youtube, so instant like :) Also Abel, just realized Dave just interviewed Kassem on his channel too lmao !
hah yeah, double Kassem dose for the weekend
Doug's a bright guy and has performed every possible exercise throughout his life. He built a world class physique at a very young age and learned from the best. Doug is attempting to simplify movements for novice trainees.
thanks a lot! Kassem really can explain all this biomechanics so i understand.. I read Dougs book and thought it was the end all be all
good to see multiple sides of the same story!
This is going to be a good one!! Look forward to digging in.
Doug's going to do a response video. This should be good, these two conduct themselves in a respectful manner.
Was surprised that Kassem didn't realize that the cable squat was not part of the Brig20, after he said he read the book and videos.
This was not limited to the Brig 20, more so the logics behind the exercise ranking system. the cable squat is listed as an alternative still ranked higher than the squat. It’s also an exercise that people asked about. So having it in the continuum presented value.
doug is very often disrespectful to people he disagrees with. that was actually the reason i stopped following him. hell, the response to N1 was titled "N1....Deceptions For Self Profit". He also made personal attacks against geoffrey verity schofield. he frankly needs to grow up.
@@IrritatedOnion ha he was responding to a video about him called phony physics..I don't blame doug
@@IrritatedOnion I didn't expect him to flat out make things up to do a rebuttal though. That's not going to age well.
@@N1education where could I find those 20 exercises? I’m jobless since over 5 months and can’t afford to buy the program for 300$… heeeelp :(
good stuff! Thanks for having him on. just listened to a few parts of this podcast so far but really feels like this is clarifying some aspects which were left out from his rebuttal of Doug Brignole and diving into the other muscle groups/movements, not discussed on there as well.
Finally you got Ksasem on! Looking forward to this
Coach Kassem is the best in the industry. Thank you for this!
glad you liked it!
Regarding Doug's side of the matter, when he used the term "efficiency", I was under the impression that he is considering the force angle to the active lever, insofar as maximum efficiency would be 90 degrees (such as that which is sustained through a leg extension). In any quad dominant "press" variation, you would never approach anywhere near 90 degrees force angle on the tibia. This inefficiency might be illustrated in how much load becomes necessary to place on the leg press, even with a very low foot position.
In his defence, I have personally seen him state that in his lat pull in variation, he does not promote lateral spine flexion, rather he advises to depress the shoulder on the working side at the bottom of the motion.
That’s really just different words to say about the same thing. But the angle is not linearly proportionate to the loading, which is the issue with the models. One of the challenges of this evaluation was between the different forms of content there were varying descriptions of things. I assumed that since the brig 20 videos were the newest, that those would be the most current and in those videos he does have Moe both rotating and side bending.
@@N1education Ok that's fair enough, I haven't seen those videos or any of the paid content, except the book which I bought in 2019. Of course I agree the force angle is one factor and ultimately the torque comes down to the moment arm.
Personally I could see that the pull ins would not be effective, and that neither would the cable or free standing sissy squats, so never even attempted those. However, it is frustrating not to have access to squat machines. Despite performing leg presses after leg extensions, and with heels off the bottom of the plate, it's obvious they're not very effective, especially regarding return for the load used. I expect this could be enhanced with reverse bands placed, to some degree.
Excellent food for though in your content. Trying to get my head around what you advise for humeral abduction angle in chest movements (historically I always kept my elbows tucked as it just felt stronger and more comfortable), and the angles for achieving lengthened lat positions, which do look tricky to implement.
@@N1education thanks for taking time to reply, very much appreciated. I went over to the US in 2014 and 15 to attend Tom Purvis's classes, so much still to learn.
@@BodyOpt Tom is definitely the authority on the physics calculations in our industry.
@@BodyOpt you may enjoy this video I did that goes into a little more nuance on the topics you are referencing. It's still simplified down for social media in terms of defining moment arm etc. But with your background, this should resonate well, and you are spot on in regards to using the accommodating resistance on the machines. I reverse band them the majority of the time for hypertrophy goals.
What's all this about. Isn't Shawn T's Insanity still the most effective method?!
Excellent interview! Love hearing Kassem's pov and he makes a lot of great points.
Great interview. Kassem is right you do a good job with your interviews.
thanks a ton!
Kassem is literally genius
he is a bright pal indeed 😀
@@ssdabel thank for content, this is priceless
Wow, that was incredibly enlightening! Thank you both for the interesting questions and plausible and useful answers 👍 👍
just finished what a fantastic podcast will have to watch again
glad you liked it!
Kassem is amazing
He is great!
Here's a faster rebuttal: If Brignole is gonna talk about other's biomechanics understanding, he should get a basic clue himself. His comments on the pecs and lats show a less than kindergarten understanding of what's going on. Nothing else is even relevant past that.
I agree that those are probably the most offending exercises (pecs/lats) in regards to biomechanics. However I don’t think that such blunt messaging will reach anyone that is convinced otherwise. The purpose of these conversations is to reach the people with an opposing view, not pander to those that agree, so my approach is more measured to hopefully ease the viewer into being open minded. The goal is to decrease the number of people that will just become defensive and double down on their beliefs rather than being open to critical thinking.
How is he wrong
@@ohno837 he explained in the video. watch the video lol. Doug clearly doesn't understand physiology and exercise. He a physics expert, working out is not all physics. It's about overall efficiency not to single out one mechanism.
Lol how is he wrong about the pecs and Lats…all muscles pull towards their origin…decline is most direct way to work chest
@@ohno837 you just proved you didn’t even listen to whole video mate. Good job
Doug Brignole is the classic example of someone trying to reinvent the wheel for no reason. I’ll stick with compound exercises and actually build muscle.
🙄
I tried his method's and lost size in my legs. I had to start squats again cause my legs went down in size so fast.
@@booty121212
U lie
fascinating
🙏🙏
Imagine how big Ronnie, Dorian and Arnold would have been if they had done sissy squats instead of heavy barbell squats. It’s a shame Doug Brignole wasn’t there to coach them.
🤣🤣🤣
Well, Dorian eliminated them before his Pro days, and they had already caused a tear in his hip/quad.
And perhaps Ronnie would have had fewer spine surgeries...certainly had he loaded the spine FAR less through his career.
Yeah that's why Ronnie ended up on the wheelchair and even Dorian if you watch his videos saying doen't train any more due to lot of injuries, your argument is worthless.
@@izzy9112 yeah, imagine how big ronnie and dorian today if they were not injured. The are just on there 50s.
made it 16 mins in and finding it really hard to extract anything from what Kassem is saying, he talks alot without actually saying anything
Why does this guy not understand biomechanics?
Can’t wait to listen to this!
Btw, has your insta been deactivated?
hope youll like it! yep, its deactivated
@@ssdabel Halfway through and loving it (: Also ps I really just want to reiterate that you're really good at interviews, very under rated!
@@withrowwrites8331 thanks a lot, really appreciate it!:)
Kassem! You are NOT making your point at ALL.. Frankly you seem confuse.
great fucking stuff Abel!
glad you liked it!:)
Excellent information, thank you !
thank you!
How does static work fit into this?
Bottom line and to make life easy. Perform Doug's exercises on top of all the rest of the exercises and you are covering everything 😄😄😄😄
have to wonder why this guys physique is not better than it is..
if you're referring to me, then well...I wonder about that too :'D If you mean Kassem, for all we know he could be the best physique of all time if he got lean enough.
@@ssdabel not talking about you, talking about Kassem, not saying he doesn't know his stuff just he looks fat and seems winded while talking not good for someone in his line of work..
Good point Leo, if you don’t have the physique to back up what your teaching all credibility is lost in my opinion.
I’ve been telling people for years that brignole is off on many of his assumptions good to see this
Wrong!! Doug is spot on!!
He doesn't understand Doug's row
Doug has forgotten more than these guys will ever know.
Great discussion. Thanks. Re. 1:08:40, I thought that the lateral delt was the lats antagonist, not the pecs (shoulder abduction vs. shoulder adduction). Am i wrong?
I would say so, but I guess Kassem wouldn't agree. I hope to get on a consultation with him and pick his brain more on this.
@@ssdabel thanks Abel for your reply!
@@user-xv9yr4ql2z For lateral/medial delt the antagonist would be teres major (shoulder adduction in scapular plane) not the lat.
@@chasinggainz9772 the lats are also (perhaps mainly? ) responsible for shoulder adduction
Lat is better as shoulder extensor when the arm stay close to the body(leverage the rib cage), not much as a shoulder adductor. Take a look at Kassem's IG
Hi Able! How do I join your Facebook group? I put in a request a week or so back. I'm a HUGE fan. Keep up your awesome work 👏 😃
Hi Kristian, which FB group are you referring to? I used to have one but that no longer exists as my account got terminated by the kind facebook crew..
@@ssdabel oops! I put in a request for a group titled "Sustainable Self-development" but didn't realize it's not your group. 🤦♀️
This is what I hate about TH-cam. Have a show with one person/school of thought and then another with a different school of thought. Have both schools of thought on the same damn show for a formal discussion!!
I would have loved to, Doug was unwilling to do it.
Biomechanics is new to most of the public and we have 2 guys (U and Doug) trying to teach it disagreeing on everything about it. What does that say to the public? I dont know u and your explanations did not simplify or explain anything, u were all over the place so I will stick with Doug.
Hey man if your gonna try to teach something at least have a plan so the people watching can understand what you're trying to say. This was a terrible, terrible explanation of biomechanics and I'm not bragging but I am a smart guy and I got nothing from your speeches
Polite destruction.
@@AlanCarson726 agree. But I wasn't wrong...
Are you still bitter from when he destroyed you in the rebuttal. They showed you contradicting yourself.
I love the theory, but a little practical application would be nice. Must be only on his pay site.
I did try to reach a practical conclusion at the end of each segment
There is more than enough practical applications throughout every segment....
This guy is out of breath just talking lol
haha, the intensity is there
We REALLY need to STOP thinking like a bodybulder and START thinking like a normal human being who goes about his day NOT sitting in a chair and isolating muscles. Normal human beings QUAT down and stand back up (SQUAT) bend down and pick things up (DEADLIFT) Push things forward while on your feet (BENCH) and put things on a shelf WHILE standing up NOT sitting in a char ( OVERHEAD PRESS) train MOVEMENTS not individual muslces.. Bodybuilding has brainwashed 99% of those who go to the gym. Google STARTING STRNGTH
Human beings don't overhead press 120 kg or press 160 kg forward or deadlifts 220 kg. They're Never submiting their spines to ALL that Crazy Axial loading. Total load Will become a problem for your joints and recovery.
Nope, with all the respect, Kaseem is wrong with most of the thing he says. I respect his work and people like him, but I don't agree with a lot of things he said. No hate. We re here to get better. Doug s math is not right either, but his principles are relevant. Also mister Kaseem seems to lack basic knowledge when it comes to anatomy. His explication about using he long head of the Triceps is hilarious though he admitted that all 3 heads are connected to the elbow by a single joint. All the best!
By a single tendon*
could you plase also tell what you do think?:)
Yes of course. Also I belive we can learn from both of them, Doug and Kassim, even though I agree more with Doug(not completely). It s hard to write all that I think in a TH-cam comment but to summarize my opinion I ll say the Brignole principles are more reliable to me, just make more sense also does work when I tried his methods, even though his maths is incorrect. For me it doesn't matter if the math is accurate as long as I can perform better exercises even if they are only by a small percentage better than the 'traditional' ones, as long as it works and it keeps my body healthy I am happy. On the other side Kassim just doesn't convince me with all his explications regarding exercise selection. I don't agree with many things. I already said for me It doesn't work, to activate the long head of the Triceps more and stuff like that, maybe because I don't belive in emg studies, cause they are not taking all the extra details, such as range of motion, strenght curve, direction of the resistance and maybe more stuff than I can think right now. You can do any isometric exercise you want and the emg studies will show a lot of tension in the muscle and will result that particular exercise is great for the muscle. It s just not working like that. Also I don't agree with Kassim view regarding muscle anatomy, fibres, or the way that he understand and said that the muscle are working. I don't see the benefit to cross your arm in front of the body for more Lat activation, it doesn't make sense for me, also some other things that he said regarding chest training. I just don't see the sense, nothing personal, he clearly is a nice guy with good intention it just that his methods are not enough to convince me he s right. He is right about Doug maths being inaccurate and that s pretty much where I agree with him, other than that no, and I am looking at the big picture here, trying to benefit from all of this free info, so again Tha k you for that, and sorry if I offended anyone. Cheers
@@octavianandron9418 Kassem used EMG In conjunction with MOXY to validate the exercise which I think it's one of the best method we can use to experiment in an in-house condition, EMG for measuring muscle activation & MOXY for measuring the degree of O2 depletion in targeted muscle to see if any of the division of tested muscle is a prime mover/most bias over the other division in each exercise.
It might be, I don't think they have no benefits, but hence they can't consider the rest of the details that makes an exercise efficient, I don't really consider them important, meaning you can hold a dumbell in ur hand and the measurements will show that is great for the muscle targeted, I am guessing they will show that, I am not sure. In anyway aia don't agree with coach Kaseem saying you can rely biase a head of the Triceps, no matter what any emg will show, and I don't think it matters that much since you are always, I repet always, you will use all your 3 heads when your working the Triceps using any Triceps exercise!
What a load of bull !