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Marissa is sweet but I think she's a chameleon who camouflages herself to fit any man she's in a relationship with. Ramses has completely different values from her, and she's willing to just brush that off for a ring, that's a dangerous mentality.
Literally!!!!
I think Marissa is like that cos of her mum. She had to go along with a lot of negativity growing up. That's why she can date a trump supporter. Date Rames, who is clearly manipulating her. He's been married before yet has avoided the important questions in the pods. He clearly is there for S and nothing else
@@ishasankoh3684 this comment right here needs to be pinned cuz everything just seems as peaches and rainbows when really it’s not
Bingo!
@@dazedconfuseds That mother of hers is a piece of work, and that's me being nice. How you're raised is a great indicator when it comes to who you choose as a partner, her mother has clearly set a terrible example for her and her siblings. Hence why she's willing to put up with anything, it's sad.
Hannah talks to Nick like she’s his boss and he’s her employee
she don’t have a job, she has to create some workplace environment 💀
You are now my elite employeeee ✨✨
I wouldn't even accept that type of interaction from a boss. She talks to him likes he's her child and it passes me off everytime...
😂😂😂😂👏🏽👏🏽
An abusive boss! LOL!
Unpopular Opinion: Hannah is emotionally abusive
I don’t think that’s unpopular
Very popular
@@destinyschild5768 omg I’m glad to hear, I feel like people have been downplaying how horrible she is to him.
*popular
I agree. While Nick has some maturing to do, Hannah was doing waayyy too much.
my husband says rams is exactly what rams say he is not: toxic masc...just in a softer tone. he lightly says "i do not want you to be uncomfortable and you do not have to do something you do not want..but my needs need to be met..."
Ew
arguably the worst type of toxic masc smhhhh
@@NaturalBeautifulBre: Which is fair. All she has to say is “no”.
@@MusikkFreak27 the covert “but I’m a nice guy” type. Blech.🤮
Hmmmm
It was the smile Tim had on his face when he said “I’m glad we can at least agree that I don’t ever want to see you again” that let me know he was crazy. How can you say that with a smile to someone you claimed to love? Like what? Diabolical behavior. I felt so bad for Alex at that moment. I can’t imagine being married to someone like that. It might have hurt at that time but she actually dodged a bul!et
Totally agree! He seems emotionally unstable. No thank you. Alex dodged a bullet for real.
Alex was also a red flag. He dodged a bullet as well. They shouldn’t have been together.
Could not disagree with you more. I think he was all in, but the lack of effort she showed with his parents was the nail in the coffin. She had a whole ITINERARY on how he was supposed to treat her family, where everyone would sit, how he would read the letter to her father in private... AFTER he shopped and cooked food. She came to meet his parents with her hands in her pockets, keeping one hand in her pocket while hugging them and gave nothing but "yeah" answers. And her APARTMENT?? Hell no! He's a giver and she's a taker... he could not deal with that for the rest of his life. He needs a woman who naturally gives and thinks about others. It does not come natural for her
Alex was a huge walking red flag. Tim saw that bullet and said hell no. Especially after she didn’t give the effort for his parents that Tim gave hers.
Tim gives abuser vibes.
Ashley: "Do the kids know what you look like?
Tyler: "I don't think so..."
Me: "There are pictures all over the internet of you holding "your" kids, sir. What are you talking about?"
I watched while in a taxi on my way to work and when I tell you. The way my neck turned and looked awkwardly out the window when he said that 😂
Yes omg pictures of him, the 3 kids & their mom in numerous pics in matching pajamas, this dude is scum
That one sentence pissed me off more than anything that had been uttered in this whole episode.
I almost slapped my t.v. why are you lying as if Ashley will never find out?
At this rate they better not get married cuz that’s embarrassing to get married to someone who is blatantly lying to Yur face
Katie spoke to Nick not at him. His whole energy was different around her and I feel like it’s because she wasn’t judging him and being condescending. She probably could have helped Nick mature without belittling him.
I was saying the same thing
!!!
Katie should’ve chose him
@@jessal.h8996 I think he leads with the death of his sisters to trap women. As an empath I would fall for that sh…
@@Lake31 Nick’s sisters didn’t die, I think you’re thinking of Tim.
Ramses: your partner doesn't owe you sex. If he is a feminist and as aware about the patriarchy and opression as he is claiming, he should know that. He is basically threatening to say no at the altar if she is not making her body always available for him to use. Man, I understand that the prospect of sexual exclusivity is overwhelming, but the solution is not to pressure your partner into feeling your need otherwise you leave. This is not feminist.
Maybe consider that monogamy is not for you if you can't live with missmatch libido. Also, the role of your partner is not supposed to be to respond to all your sexual pulsions. You can masturbate. Intimate relationship between people are not about removing the itch, it's about sharing a mutually pleasurable moment. So if it is not mutual, it shouldn't happen. He should understand the basics of consent. Consent cannot be coersed, and this is what he does to her, coersing her to be intimate with him. This man digust me.
@@olympuce1 Amen !
Beautifully worded and my thoughts exactly
The issues or concerns that she had were VALID!!! and completely realistic! What are you gonna do if I get sick? What about when I’m pregnant or something comes up? He’s placing sexual pleasure way too high on the marriage totem pole!
I’m pregnant and have gone through soo much and probably had had intimacy 4 times my entire pregnancy lol and my man has been sooo loving, understanding and accommodating.
We even decided to learn how to do it all over again 😂😂 because this is SEASONS OF LIFE!!! Ramses is looking for a childless marriage and he’s too scared to say that upfront and he doesn’t want the world to discover that he’s one of those “Selfish” people who will watch a kid for a few hours as long as it goes back to its original parents at the end.
I don’t buy his care free feminist, hippie vibes!
Selfish… sex obsessed, fake and unrealistic. That’s why he’s trying marriage a second time so young.
I really hope Marissa runs. My ex husband was sexually abusive and the conversation between Marissa and Ramsus is exactly how it started with my ex. He would make me feel horrible for saying no even for VERY understandable reasons. Then it got a looot darker after the wedding.
My ex was also a women empowerment faux feminist. But I hope she runs because the mental turmoil sexual abuse from your husband causes is no joke.
@@Olivia-bl8ez my gosh i am so sorry you went through that. it is absolutely horrible. And i agree with you, it starts off with these type of comments, but these are early signs of something much more sinister.
I hope you are better now, and safe.
@@olympuce1 thank you for your post. It’s really well said.
I just want to hug any woman I see ignoring the same red flags I did. I wish I could prevent it from happening to anyone else but sadly I can’t. So awareness and posts like yours are so important!
Nick already asked her to not talk about sex stuff on camera!
I forgot that.
@@NewThingzz even if he didn't ask, that was soo tactless. Why you gotta embarass him on TV like that, she's too much.
I really believe Hannah 💩 talked Nick’s sex game so Katie (who was sitting directly across from her) would hear. She already knew Nick was going to say no.
Tim gives very much TIC TIC BOOOOOOOM….the crazy is all in his eyes😳
His eyes and how he clenches his jaws and talks through his teeth 😬
And does!! I said it very early on
@@moglaspieYaaasss I’m like is anyone else seeing this👀
Tim is a man who constantly feels disrespected by any woman he is dating.
He reminds me of Terrence Howard 😅
Tim phrasing it like “as soon as the cameras cut you fell asleep” when that was four hours she spent talking to them is so manipulative. He was so childish in that conversation and thought he was so mature.
The switch up from him is insane. He literally was proclaiming his love for her to her dad 2 days before and all of a sudden you are discarding her. It’s just wild to me.
@@GG-kn2se right! and they literally went outside and left her alone inside. I don’t see the problem. After hanging out with them for 4 hours and then they go outside to do their own thing why can’t she do her own thing and lay down and take a lil nap. He seems so controlling
That scene was so cringe. He thought he read her like a book but I was embarrassed for him
@@missthing2107I’m glad we saw that side of Alex though because the way he framed their first fight made it look like she had a nasty side. But in that conversation it was plain he is controlling. The way he kept pretending like she wasn’t letting him talk just because she wouldn’t receive his pointless lecture and was trying to make it a conversation was SO infuriating.
And then there's the "I m not a cuddler; dont touch me". He's weird.@GG-kn2se
sorry but Tim is evil, the way he said he doesn't want to see her again...he had a little smirk on his face. He was waiting for that moment
He gives murderer vibes to me tbh
@@mariabrown6926 this!! He definitely is evil, you can see it in his eyes and creepy smile!
Cold as ice
He acted like he wanted a dramatic exit I don’t get it.
@@kye447 he definitely did I’m glad she didn’t give him the satisfaction
When Tyler said that he didn't think the kids knew how he looked like, I screamed at the screen!
@@EllaBeth30 ME TOO! I had to rewind it back.👂🏽👂🏽 to make sure.. 🥴
I literally screamed JESUS! when I heard what he said. The man is sick!🥲
Tim literally said he shouldn't have to communicate things to her. She should just know, and he said because she doesn't, he wants to leave. What an insane amount of expectation to put on someone. He definitely pent up his emotions. What a hurtful thing to say, "I never want to see you ever again" on cameras... My heart literally broke for Alex
I’m so glad she didn’t cry and just started eating her dinner instead! He’s a cruel person
I think he was speaking of certain things like not fall asleep while my parents are there, help out when preparing for her dad. Those are etiquette’s issues and respect issues. It would be huge for me as well. But he imo did not love her esp once they had that fight in Mexico
that hurt me too
@@SydneyLovePJBJ i agree I don’t think in that context he meant he should never have to communicate issues (though they do have an issue communicating effectively) I think he just meant that some considerations have to be in you - and I think I agree, even when he met her parents I remember being thrown off by how he was doing everything, and she didn’t lift a finger and to later hear that he still had to do the dishes after all of that as well, that reveals a lack of thoughtfulness and care on her part and for her to decide to take a nap on the day she met his parents (girl you power through!) even the way she greeted his parents with her hand in her pocket (lol maybe I’m also strict) & considering what happened in Mexico then the picture doesn’t look too good and I do believe you need to pay attention to how people act rather than just their words, we tell on ourselves. I do think Tim made the right decision to end things but I was also not impressed with how he handled the break up, it felt vindictive.
@@lifewithpabi 100% to everything you said. I was thinking this while seeing their different homes and during her family visit. He is a natural giver, he thinks about others and how to make people feel comfortable. She did not display that quality, just looking at her home can tell a lot. People are hating on him for breaking things off so suddenly and smiling while he was talking, but he could sense that this would not be a 50/50 relationship; he would have to do a lot of work just to keep the house clean, keep things positive... let's not forget she pulled a Catherine on him and tried to Freddie him out of his joyful, jokey behavior. They just weren't a match. And yeah, the hand in the pocket was rude.
Hannah needs to scrub "mature" from her vocabulary for at least 2 years.
She always berates him "did you read, Nick? Have you read a book last night instead of watching sports??!!" As if reading solves problems. She needs to read on how to be more emotionally intelligent and keep a man!
🎯 she will get her Karma. Not wishing bad on anyone but she will find a man she thinks is so mature and he will belittle her. Hopefully it will humble her, because to me Nick isn't that bad of guy with some maturity and growth.
lmao
Mom wanted to name her son Drake, Tim Snr wanted to name him Tim Jr and she never got over it 😂
I dunno if you wanna claim that name anymore 👀
🤣
I’mma need her to let it TF go. She’s one of those people who will “forgive” but never let you live it down. It’s giving TOXIC and I see where Tim gets it from.
He may have been a better man if his name was Drake, because Tim is crybaby name.
I knew Tim was going to be a problem in the pods when he said he bought that shirt because his ex didn’t like it. It wasn’t about him really liking the shirt, it was the fact that she didn’t like it that made the shirt a *MUST HAVE* for him. People like that, who find joy in trolling others, deserve their equal.
He seems offended by everything
That was his 1st big red flag🚩 for me too! I didn't like him at all after that.
Tim is the problem?? Tim exhibited red flag behavior?? Are y'all just blinded b/c you think Alex is pretty? This girl forcefully covered his mouth and called him out of his name during their first argument.
@@lcavit the way he was interrupting her while playing the victim by repeating « can I talk now » screams covert narcissist to me. In the end, he is mean to her because he failed to rile her up as he had intended to do. I think his plan was for her to get mad so that he can blame the breakup on her
If you're judging Tim's character solely based on his shirt comment-suggesting he wore a shirt his ex didn’t like to be a troll-then I believe your assessment is somewhat limited. However, you didn’t mention the argument that occurred between them when he was called out by name, and Alex didn’t deny that it happened either. Additionally, her messy apartment was not a great first impression.
What I find troubling on Tim's part is that he met Alex's father, who has MS, and that exchange was very emotional, especially as the father was seeking to approve Tim to take his daughter’s hand in marriage. Ultimately, there wasn't enough of a backdrop that gave viewers clarity, and no in-depth visibility was shown of their discourse to form a strong opinion about their relationship.
Hannah is probably one of the most delusional cast members in LIB history imo. It’s very strange how she constantly tries to 1up Nick on very basic things and just in general. If Nick spoke his mind more with her, she wouldn’t be able to handle it. She’s all bark and it’s annoying af.
@@GG-kn2seyes i totaly agree .her delivery is terrible and the shade and humiliation is really not necessary. But some of her concerns were valid
But she even said it herself, she's extremely critical and mean to him because that's how she is to herself too. This is what I've realized about people in my 36 years of life...how they treat you is how they feel about themselves.
@@tyana601 totally agree that she can be right about some things but it’s not what you say it’s how you say it. Also, she was making comments about his looks and how he wasn’t what she was hoping for and while I think Hannah is a beautiful woman, she was also gassing herself up in the pods just like he was….and she was talking AT him about responsibilities and how she’s so much more together than he is, when she quit her job to be on the show…that’s not very responsible. That’s what I meant by delusional and hypocritical but in her defence, there could be more to the story…. I am just going based off of what they’ve shown us in the edit.
@@Preah3yeah i 100% agree with you he behaviour is horrible. I was just saying it would be easy to see and understand if she did not treat him so poorly
Ramses also hates the military which gave her her career and education, Ramses sounds like a sex addict. It needs to be mutual. He’s selfish in so many ways. Run Marissa, Run.
So many people have mentioned that Nicky D should stand up for himself when Hannah talks down to him. He did in this episode (better than any other time I noticed, at least), and Hannah was like, “You get treated like an equal when you start contributing like an equal.” What the actual f…? That’s pretty big talk coming from someone who quit their job to be on the show… 🙄
And the way she silently stares at him, like daring him to say something smart... like a mother's stare... it's disturbing. I don't see how they can turn that energy into sex; no wonder he doesn't go down. SMDH.
This was the meanest thing you can say. WTF?! I have chills just thinking about someone saying such a thing to me.
Nick has stood up for himself respectfully. But the nerve of Hannah to say stuff like "I turned you from a boy into a man" who does she think she is??? And Nick can talk to whoever he wants, why is she upset when he talks to Katie, her supposed 'BFF?? When he does stand up to her, she shuts him down...🙄
I think Hannah talked a big game but in actuality is very insecure.
I cried when katy gave him compliments because he needed that 😢
He definitely did need it! Poor Nick.😢
I low-key hope they definitely try to spin the block. Katie is a better fit for him.
Ramses pushing to have unprotected sex but don’t want kids right away is insane. We know how damaging brith control can be …. like why do women have to give everything up? 🙄
Wspecially when it’s coming from the guy that doesn’t want kids but, can’t wear a condom because ‘it doesn’t feel right’ so they should be intimate in a way ‘they’re both comfortable’.
Like, make it make sense, but if you hear these things, you should book it and run!
Hannah acted like someone who never had a boyfriend before and she got all her relationship experience from watching the Kardashians.
Hannah mom’s facial expression told me everything I needed to know about Hannah’s opinion.
I don't think Hannah was physically attracted to Nick, nor mentally or emotionally, either. I think Nick was a little immature as far as lacking some responsibilities, but he doesn't deserve to be berated that way!
Tyler blatantly lying about the kids is scary. The baby's mom posted a video of one of the daughters looking right at him and calling him "daddy." It makes me think he's conning Ashley like the whole too good to be true thing, because he came across as a great catch, initially, but she deserves so much more!!
So I don't have social media and only know about this baby thing from Queen E's comment section. Can you clarify, are these kids actually living with a lesbian couple? Or did he legit have these kids for himself and an ex-girlfriend? He keeps saying gay couple on the show, but you guys are saying this was from his former relationship... ??
@@circe...I’m still not 100% clear on it based on what I’ve seen on social media, but it’s my understanding that one of the women in the couple was his friend, and he helped her and her wife at the time by contributing his sperm for their first child. Allegedly, he did this while being engaged to another woman and did not tell her. Then - and I’m not clear on this- after the lesbian couple breaks up, he helps the friend by giving her two more children?? That part I’m confused on. Honestly I’m confused on it all, it’s all a mess.
First off, he wasn't tall enough for her.
I have to say this about Nick and Hannah. She verbally cuts him down every chance she gets, then tries to disguise it as "tough love". For her to tell him she'll treat him as an equal when he contributes like an equal is absolutely DIABOLICAL coming from the unemployed one in the relationship. To say that he's not financially on her level when he's the only one employed, has no debt, and she's bringing $50k worth of debt into the relationship is CRAZY. People keep calling this man immature, but she's shown that when she doesn't get her way, she throws temper tantrums. The restraint he's shown in not telling her about herself seems pretty mature, if you ask me.
Well said . She was awful
Hannah is the villain this season.
So well put I totally agree. How calm he stayed when she continued to cut him down shows so much maturity. A man that can sit back and stay calm while being disrespected repeatedly says a lot.
Tim shook Alex's dads hand and experienced an emotional moment then TWO DAYS LATER said he never wanted to see her again because she took a nap. There's something wrong with that man.
Hannah and Nick continually telling each other they love each other annoys me because it’s obvious they don’t even like each other especially Hannah. She never liked that man and wanted to find a way to blame him for her walking away. She’s mean and used this opportunity to use Nick as a punching bag and a way to stroke her own ego because she feels like she’s better than him.
Hannah constantly pisses me off MORE SO because I know her concerns are VALID but that TONE. That tone grates on me everytime! My GWAD. Like why?! Why belittle him like that?! Like just WHY?
at this point, Nick is way more mature than her and closer to finding a partner than she ever will. He has shown her more grace and respect than she has ever given him. If I were Nick I would have lashed out after day 3
@@sarabennett6295Right, he kept saying how he still loved her, and honestly… I don’t think I could love someone who talked to me and belittled me like that. I couldn’t be intimate with them or anything.
I actually found her funny, but I'm not overly sensitive.
Hannah told the whole room he doesn’t like a specific sexual act. Shame on her. No need to humiliate Nick.
I just can’t stand Hannah at this point. That was just too much information. She’s hella immature for that. 🤦🏽♀️
@@terry-annfrancis1252very disrespectful. On the other hand though, his refusal to please her, his jealousy of her vibrator, deal-breaker for me.
She didn’t need to be vulgar, just say we’re mismatched sexually or whatever, we have things we need to work on; the rest is nobody’s business. Bad enough revealing details to your friend, imagine telling the whole WORLD. 🤦🏻♀️Go to a sex therapist, go work it out, girl…nah- she’s been lookin for an excuse to dump that man since the reveal
Yeahhhh. Super rough. I wonder if it’s not that he doesn’t like giving ___ in general, maybe he just doesn’t wanna do that with her… But idk anything and I wish she hadn’t put his personal stuff on blast.
@@hannahrannah2739i feel like he just doesn't want to do that to HER!😂
Every time I try to give Hannah a break….. and then she opens her mouth. She never wanted him as a husband and barely tolerated him as a partner and we’ve had to be strapped along for the miserable ride that is their relationship smh . Tim expected Alex to read his mind and know his feelings and then coldly replied that he never wanted to see her again?! very Zanab at the wedding coded…he thought he was in the right yet he just created his villian origin story smh
So Tyler and his lying...I agree it's horrible for Ashley because she's being completely manipulated and lied to. But the ones I feel for the most are those poor kids. This is on TV and this is on video forever. Yes, they're too young to understand right now, but as they grow up, they will know that their dad went on TV in front of millions of viewers and declared that he had nothing to do with them. That's gonna hurt so bad. It's heartbreaking.
Im starting to think Netflix paid Tyler to lie and this season it’s really all we are talking about. Win/win for Tyler and Netflix
He was a sperm donor. Their mother chose to blur that line.
@@cider1286 my dad never told anyone he was divorced with 4 kids, in fact, his GF (who lived out of state & was visiting) only found out when she opened a spare closet and saw some games and Barbie dolls. They’ve now been married 35 yrs. But I’m perpetually single and never feel like I’m enough. Maybe that’s why.🤷🏻♀️
THIS!!!!!!!!!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾
Sometimes the healthiest marriages starts out as wonderful friendships. I believe Marissa sold herself short by cutting off Bohdie because she friend zoned him. I think he would have been a better match in the long haul because lust wouldn’t have been the key connector. I could tell that he found her attractive but kept it cute out of respect for Ramses. Oh well.
How many times do we think we'll hear "Here in this deleted scene..." at the reunion?
Here is my theory: I am curious if that ex was prompted by Garrett’s mum to reach out 🤨
My first thought was someone hinted to the ex that he was on the show.
I love this theory
No exes have this weird intuition whenever their partner moves on. I felt it when my ex got married. I hadn’t thought of him for 2.5 years after we broke up and all of sudden he came to mind. I looked him up and saw he had just gotten married.
Mmmm!!! Yes for sure! They dont want their son marrying out! Iykyk👀
I think so
Tim bailing on this relationship wasn’t hard to predict when he had to remove himself physically from their first fight and then during their talk supposedly to resolve it he said he couldn’t see her as his wife. After basically ONE altercation. Relationships are tough and if one thing (that’s not cheating or violence) makes you recant your love for this person, then it’s not long until his tiny cup of compassion and understanding gets filled. Good luck to him finding that perfect person who’s never going to disappoint him 😂
The problem with relationships it's not about making each other feel guilty, it's not about making someone feel bad, it's not about owning another person and giving them rules. This is what almost all of them did!! A real relationship is about respect, love and trust, non of them had these key components.
@@rock_stocks_on_the_blocks Very well said
Alex’s life seems to be in shambles a bit. The health issues between her family. The extreme clutter in her home which should be her safe space. Overwhelming work life balance. Poor thing. She doesn’t cook, she doesn’t clean and she isn’t a jovial personality type. I don’t think she is ready for marriage. His mom asked what she’s willing to sacrifice for their relationship, and she pretty much said nothing 😂 my father was a Navy Seal and they are very stern. You have to be optimistic and high energy happy to really get their “approval”
Yes and the need to rest often can be burnout or trauma related too.
@@joanna0988 Oh absolutely. That pressure of having sick parents and younger siblings you’re there for can be traumatic to deal with. She will be responsible for everything in the event of passing of one of her parents 😢 once you burnout, the only thing you look forward to is sleep. Plus her plate was full of fast fried food. That takeout all the time will affect your mood and energy levels as well. Praying she’s doing well honestly I like her.
And the best solution is to sign up for a reality show?
@@anastassiyali140 For her it was I guess 🤷🏾♀️ sometimes it works sometimes LIB doesn’t work. I’m sure she used it as a lesson to fix what needed to be fixed. I’ve seen her most recent pics and she looks really well. The guy with 3 kids though should have never even applied.
Well shoot if she gets pregnant there's morning sickness. After birth there's months where you have to heal and it's almost a 2 month period of basically having a period. She should run now!
Not to mention postpartum depression. Which most women suffer from.
A couple of theories;
1. Hannah has ZERO issues with Nick's sex game... she wouldn't have been able to keep it to herself this long. Conveniently, Katie was within earshot, and that's the game Hannah chose to play.
2. Garett didn't respond. He only liked it, but after hearing what Taylor thought he SHOULD'VE done, he decided to switch the story to make himself look like a great guy who's ready for marriage... completely forgetting Taylor was right there!
Hannah knew what she was doing talking about their sex life while the cameras were around
@@gotKiaasoul girl is vile. I think this is the worst cast yet.
Melissa saying that she would stay in the marriage as long as she can even if she’s unhappy and miserable for 7 yearrrrrrrs is simply insane ! Desperate for love and marriage to a point of no return
that was a red flag, I think she has been in relationships like that
To me it seems like Alex has a lower social meter than most and does get overstimulated easily and once her battery is drained she tapped, and there’s nothing wrong with that cause I’m the same way. However, you need to tell your partner how you are in social situations and what can happen when you do get to that breaking point BUT Tim needs to take a damn chill pill and stop taking stuff so damn personal
I relate to that too; it's a matter of being an introvert and possibly an ESP.
It seems like she did. Spent time with his family and then took a nap. Im from.the south and we are about resting after a touch down as well. Tim is just out his mind
@@pixiestxNyomouf
There’s something that’s just so “off” with him anyway. Tim had bad juju, so she dodged a bullet there.
That’s the problem they just don’t know eachother well enough to understand eachothers communication. Sometimes it takes time to
Note how Hannah behaves when Nick is trying to voice his concerns or when he gets slightly upset. She gets aroused or she completely ignores him if the criticism targets her. She is not mature for marriage. Financial independent does not mean maturity. She needs to seek therapy and fix whatever she has going on with her parents and the men she dates.
Yeah I noticed that. Like after that Gatsby party. When he got upset she was almost like yeah take my clothes off now!
Yeah I noticed that. Like after that Gatsby party. When he got upset she was almost like yeah take my clothes off now!
Everyone is rooting for Garrett and Taylor, but that lie of his is a raging red flag. It was almost gaslighting. He's intelligent and knows what he's doing.
I don't think so. I think he could be very non confrontational and just didn't tell her because he did not know how to approach it in a way not to hurt her. He might very much not like being "rude" to anyone. Hence why he even answered his ex. It definitely is all about what he said as well.
That lie is and did stand out to me because she specifically asked him about that but he only added that to clean up infront of the others...but not to your fiance? Its wasnt worth lying or forgettingbut the fact he did is my issue
That lie changes everything, it was painful seeing Taylor realise this with tears in her eyes! She knows what it means but like most of us she couldn’t end it. She will look back at this moment and realise that was the moment
Right! Him and Taylor love to mention that they’re scientists and they have a superior than others attitude. So he’s intelligent enough to know semantics and keeping a door open for an ex.
That was the dumbest situation to have an argument about imo… it’s small and life is too short. Address it, yes - but Taylor took it too the max. Karen vibes for sure omfg
1. Tyler is a liar and manipulator.
2. Tim is emotionally frozen and a narcissist.
3. Ramses is insensitive and selfish
4. Nick is sweet but immature.
5. Garrett is respectful but untrustworthy.
6. The first guy that left is a dead beat and a degenerate.
Not degenerate lol! Ramses is just ugh…
Here's my opinion about Tim and Alex. I will admit that what Tim did was downright cruel, and vindictive. I do not believe it was premeditated, because otherwise it would be psychopathic on his part. However, after that fight in Mexico, he said he wanted to leave, and Alex is the one who convinced him to stay. Since she is the one who wanted to fight for the relationship, isn't she suppose to show more effort? Because honestly, I saw no effort on her part. The parents drove 10h to come see her and she had no presents for them? No food? No nothing? While Tim cooked for her entire family, and was on his best behavior for that meet up. And she went and took a nap, while the parents were there???? Let's be for real, that's messed up. I understand you are tired and that you had a long day, but i'm sorry that's no excuse. Tim is not perfect, far from it, and I do believe that he was sincere with her father, but he never forgot the Mexico incident. And After seeing her messy apartment, plus the thing with his parents was the last straw for him. Again, the way he handled that break up was petty AF, but Alex was no angel.
Yes!!!
Agreed! She didn’t even take one hand out of her pocket when shaking his parents hand and the look on her face was one of disinterest, her apartment gives a lot away about her personality maybe she is struggling with some personal issues Tim is absolutely no angel
I have heard the apartments are in Arlington, VA which is part of the DC metro area, but further away from Baltimore then central DC is. If Marissa is going all the way to Baltimore for school from Arlington every day, yeah she’s exhausted. Any PMSing or health related issues on top of that would certainly kill the mood. Ramses is NOT a good partner if he can’t see how rough that commute would be on a person.
@@TheDawnofVanlife I lived in DC & know this area; so she’s in beltway traffic every day then 95 up to Baltimore?! No thanks. I might be willing to do that once/wk, max.
Also I wasn’t sure if Garrett lives in Fredericksburg or just his parents, but assumed the latter, because that’s also not really a commutable distance.
Loved DC, great place to live (though it has gotten way pricier since back in the 90s)
He is so inattentive. It's so sad.
Yeah DMV traffic even on a Saturday is enough to make you wanna pull out your hair, add that huge distance while also balancing being on a show, planning a wedding to someone you’ve known for a month, being in school, PMS, etc, I couldn’t be as chipper as Marissa. I’d be sleeping all the time like Alex 🙃
Did Hannah ever consider in her delusional mind that he’s not attracted to her? She says he’s not self aware , naw she isn’t! Just wow!
Hannah's like: "he's short, he couldn't possibly find a flaw in me" 😂
@@joanna0988 Right! Like girl, you’re not perfect 😂
He may well not want to do some things because he does not feel safe and secure with her...
Tyler denying his kids is the worst to come out this show. Hannah's nasty attitude is the second.
Garrett’s mom was damn near grieving at that meeting with Taylor. I wouldn’t be surprised if she hit up one of his ex girl friends and told her to try to get Garrett back 🤷🏽♀️
@@Jaysennx3 omg, I thought the same thing. These Karens will stoop real low to get what they want. Helicopter parents need to realize they do not own their children and cannot dictate their lives.
Tim's behaviour during that last argument was trying to get a rise out of Alex to validate him breaking up with her. He tried desperately to bring issues up that in reality did not matter. I knew something was wrong with him when early on he spoke about being "worthy" of him.
Tyler lied by omission. Then lied that he was alone on Christmas. Then lied and said he don’t know if them kids know what he look like. What is wrong with this man. 😮
with the garrett text, i think it was probably a situation where the girl reached out to connect again, and if he had just liked it, it would’ve been incredibly ambiguous. i think responding and shutting her down was a good idea, but i do NOT understand why he lied about it. he may have felt like he was walking on eggshells a bit and really trying not to hurt her so he felt maybe not disclosing he responded was for the best, but obviously now him keeping that to himself makes him look extremely sketchy.
To me he looked like he’s genuinely sorry n a good guy. But so does Tyler 😂
Tim was an asshole with valid criticisms. How would anyone think it’s okay to go to sleep with the parents there is crazy. Did she do anything for them? Him stating he had to do everything for the set up with her dad and even wash the dishes is ridiculous. So yes, they should not marry but for him to go through all that with her dad and “never want to see her again” two days later is beyond.
Thank you!!! Tim handled the situation very poorly and they absolutely should NOT be together…..Also I do believe Alex has a lot going on in her life and do hope she gets better….BUT if the first time you’re meeting my parents you go to sleep before they are gone !??!!??! Like are you okay !?!!¿(I understand it was 4 hours) but that is so rude imo are you the only one that works get it together for one day if I’m really the one you want to MARRY !
I fell Tim 100% and no he wasn’t wrong in saying he never wants to see her again. It was clear. There’s no gray area. She understood she can’t wiggle her way back in his life to only just lay around and not clean. I hope her dad understands too when he watches this back. She kept showing him that she’s not wifey material. It’s what this show is about so naw he good
@@AnaAcuraErica that's fair enough if he was upset about that (and other things probably too). I think the weirdest thing is that smirk though and his delivery, all very cold, really seemed like he enjoyed breaking her down. Which gives scary vibes off to me.
@@tttnnnttnnnn that part satisfied me to no end because if you remember to when they were in Mexico - Alex got away with extremely disrespecting Tim. I believe karma is best when it’s served cold 🤷🏽♀️
@@AnaAcuraEricathat's fair enough, i'm not saying he didn't have a right to break it off with her for whatever reasons he saw fit. It's more the way he went about it, really seemed like he was getting something from hurting her, like he was just waiting for an opportunity to show her what he thought of her. People like that are scary imo, i think you can break up with people and do it in a way that doesn't hurt the other party even if you want absolutely no contact with them after that. To me he just really seemed to relish in bringing her pain and that's off to me. But just my opinnion, i think ashley had her faults and i don't blame him for leaving her if he didn't find her compatible.
Ironically, Ramses is a brand of condoms 🐏
sounds like a brand deal in the making?😅🤷♀
@@abbient YES!
@@abbient ...only, if Ramses changes his mind completely...😅
I think Garett was a huge red flag with his lie, then with the gaslight. What i cant understand is that they have the conversation that the issue is that he didnt shut down the conversation with his ex, and he left it like that. And he said "you are right, i am very sorry. I liked the comment and went on with my life, you are so right, i am so sad you are feeling hurt"
And then, talking with the others, suddenly he did respond and shut it down?! I dont get it, why did you appologise then earlier for only liking the comment and not shutting the conversation down? It doesn't make any sense. It is not semantic, it is not that you didn't think it was relevant information. It was the whole point of the conversation. I personally don't believe that he shut down the conversation the way he said he did, otherwise he would have said so directly. I think more messages went on, and maybe after a while he kind of shut it down. But he was too scared to admit it.
I totally understand why Taylor is freaking out. She can see that when he feels he messed up, he will omit things, then lie, then gaslight her. Especially because the next day she is trying to convince her dad that marrying Garret is not madness, and she knows what she is doing.
I think she is very smart, and was freaking out for the right things. Run girl
@@olympuce1 I completely agree, I hope she sticks with her instincts on decision day. I think she is the most emotionally intelligent and secure woman they have had on the show. She didn't make things easy and it seems like she knows her worth instead of just trying to get married to be married.
Thank 👏🏿 you 👏🏿. The fact she asked about that specifically and he only cared to "share" when he wanted to not mess up his standing with the others..he cares what they tink but not the woman he is engaged to9
Oh my never been here so fast I was itching for your review 😅
Same!!!
Loved how Katie talked to nick. It shows u can get a point across without demeaning someone constantly. Hannah
Hannah reminds me of Micah’s friend in season 4 😂
She does look like her from what I remember
@@calikeisha365Shelby? The bitter Betty lol
Oh my goodness yes!
😂 so true. I got that feeling when ever she was on my screen
Honestly, I think Tim probably feels like he did so much for her parents shopping cooking cleaning, did she even bring a flower to the mother
I agree Alex is too damn lazy. She should have brought a plant for the mom. Show interest in his family. Something !!!
True. But he’s still cruel to Alex. His communication is disgraceful
Imo....Tim was and is a fraud. What he did for her father was clearly performative despite their relationship issues....
Hannah is very much giving Zenab 2.0
Zenab mixed with S6 Chelsea
Oh yessss!!!
@NomadicRoyals yes, the delusions and embellishing stories is very much Chelsea. Projecting her insecurities on her partner is very much Chelsea+Zenab. And belittling and berating her partner is Zenab all the way. She's so cruel and lacks tact. Nick always looks like he's on the verge of tears when he's in a scene with her.
He has a lot of growing up to do, for sure. But Hannah is not mature or emotionally intelligent at all. Sure she's independent, but not mature.
Yea but Hannah is mean. Zanab has trauma. She has issues
@@MsMaidh agree with you.
I don’t get when I hear some people say that Nick is not financially equal to Hannah. He has a job and no debt. She is unemployed with student loans. She has some stocks and no other assets. So how would she pay her rent/bills after the show? Just because she talks like she knows about finances doesn’t mean she is in good financial standing.
"I dont eat box 🗣️" - Queen E 2024
I screaaaaameed!! I was like oh okay you’re not wrong but 👀 Queen is Thanksgiving and Pride in Canada this weekend??
Byeeeee 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jazzy_RAOT nah 🤣 pride was in June for us too
I needed that laugh! Thankfully, I wasn't drinking or eating anything 🤣🤣
The way y'all cape for Alex is nuts. Never has wanting a shower and a nap led to getting in someone's face, calling them names, not letting them leave and ultimately putting a hand over their mouth....if roles were reversed, Tim would be torched. Tim never got over the Cabo fight even tho he tried for a resolution. In meeting Alex's family, he shopped, cooked, served and cleaned dishes..... Alex didn't greet Tim's parents with a gift or flowers, kept her purse and jacket vest on while they spoke. that body language along with a nap would've bothered me too. They weren't a good match and Alex doesn't take accountability for her parts. Like why do I need to communicate help with washing dishes!? If you see me doing them, why not join in on cleaning the kitchen
Yes!! She gave disinterest to a lot of things meeting the parents being one… she gives the vibe of laziness (her apartment was a disgrace) and Tim just isn’t like that Tim ending it was right but could have approached it in a better way
@@LoveLeneish I completely agree! Like why is no one talking about the fact that this is the FIRST time she is meeting his parents and she went to take a nap ?!??¿ after they drive 10hrs!??!! I get she’s tired but are they not tired too?!?!!!! That is so rude and disrespectful to me it would’ve made me think twice to especially after all he did for her family
Yeah, neither of them are "right" but Alex has been uninterested since those doors opened from the pods 😂
Well said!!!
@@tashabnicole no shade but she had more interest in that street corn and plate of wings and the itis naps. Lol
30:12 how does he not match her financially when she was jobless at the time of recording lol
Yes, my first indicators that depression is rolling through is sleeping. And once im in it, do not come to my apartment. I'll snap out when I snap out.
Yes and it's nasty of Tim to judge her so harshly instead of showing concern.
Lmao being messy and disrespectful is now sign an depression?😂 she just has no manners and also she didn’t even offer to help when he was cooking for her family. Buy sure, excuse her nasty behavior like putting hands on her man with mental health problems
@@anastassiyali140 are you asking/speaking to me? Because if so, where did I say disrespectful was okay? I was commenting and relating to @Queen E who said personally, when her depression is coming/has set in, cleaning and sleep are indicators. I agreed as that is also MY sign
@@joanna0988it’s no ones responsibility to be burdened by a depressed person. If that were my son- I would pressure him to leave. That’s not cool. That may make him eventually depressed. We’re not here to fix anybody! We can point them to a therapist, but to try to act like Tim can help her is absurd! Hoarders in general are unbearable people to live with. I’m saying this from personal experience. Ijs
@@AnaAcuraErica I never said he had to stay with her I said he could have been nicer and showed more concern. No one is guaranteed their mental health, I hope when he finds his wife he will be compassionate towards her.
The editing sucked extra hard this season. They left so much out. I believe if we had more context we wouldn't be so lost or confused and trying to put some pieces together...I.e. Tim and Alex. That man went all the way off on her. What was the reason? Because ain't no way....
Something had to have happened!!
@@Olivetree144 you can't convince me otherwise.
Tim and Alex were always the ones that dint make sense for me, their romance was 0, can’t even remember them kissing. They’re tidyness, love language, communication, welcoming habits etc all don’t match. Tim, should have left the first time he just stayed to look for more excuses to leave.
i think hannah made it clear that she likes to belittle him and make him seem bad in front of the cameras so her bringing up the sex stuff was on brand for her, but it was a very low blow. like she knew what she was doing and how much it was going to humiliate him. but also, as we saw with the duck thing and how she exaggerated the story when retold it to marissa, who knows if shes exaggerating about this also. i dont believe what that girl says anyways because shes so manipulative.
Abusers start by taking away any self esteem and Hannah did that constantly with Nick! Even down to his satire and in public! She is the sort of person that will end up putting her hands on her partner eventually and then get him to apologies for it!
I don't agree with the duck thing, but she kept making a huge deal out of it and putting him down. Sooner or later he was gonna leave her anyway, for someone who makes him feel good about himself. She made herself look like a villain
If I'm this kids mothers I'm getting a restraining order against this man, if he had the courage to say HIS KIDS DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE LOOKs LIKE KNOWING FULL WELL HE IS IN THEIR LIFES, he's capable of anything. He has 0 emotions towards this kids for sure.
He was a sperm donor for a lesbian couple…
She doesn’t have to cuz he disappeared!
Yeah it’s terrifying
@@laurab5849 god works in mysterious ways 😂😂😂😂
Also just wanted to say that the stuff with Tyler ommitting that he's a "sperm donor" reminds me of Nancy from season 3 and the right way to go about it: Nancy told Bartise IN THE PODS that she's donated eggs, and the children can contact her if they wish when they turn 18. Bartise still proposed to her. I think it might have been handled differently if she withheld that and told him after they got engaged. In the Payorwait interview, Tyler says "there wasn't a right time to tell Ashley" no. The right time was in the pods!
Bartiste proposed so he can have airtime lol but I get what you mean!
@@chantelc5698 Yeah it's definitely not in defense of him, he's terrible and was chasing clout 😂, but she did her part in communicating properly!
Its like the cheating question too....women tell the truth and get raked over coals where the men have no doubt lied about the same....Stephen literally said he TECHNICALLY cheated
Tbh Ramses gives the vibe that he doesn't want children at all. That's fine except she definitely wants them and it is unfair to make her wait until her late thirties to start a family. If she's smart, she'll say no lol
@@anatrieseverything to want to be a house husband and not want kids is crazy work. He wants to be a home hubby
I wouldn’t want to go down on someone being horrible to me either. Go Katie go!
Thank you for being honest about Hannah!
Tim constantly saying ….this is not somebody I see my wife as, …..my wife.. Sir, act as a gentleman husband first please!
He has that right to say that. What's the problem with that?
@@EricJohnsonresign Not a problem but he has been acting holier than thou in literally every episode. Not creating enough space for your partner to even listen and acknowledge their shortcomings as if Tim is perfect all this while, is a problem. His strict attitude towards his own partner and being so inconsiderate towards her words and not to forget that smug over his face, says a lot. He puts himself on such a high pedestal that he does not even make space for other person to grow.
@@garimadixit3271 You're entitled to your opinion, but Tim has the right to express what he wants in a wife and relationship. While he’s not perfect, let’s consider what we’ve seen. The reunion often pulls back the curtain, giving us more context for better assessments. Tim mentioned that Alex called him out his name in Mexico, which she didn’t deny-a red flag. Although he seemed done, he chose to stick it out with her based on her plea.
We didn’t see their argument, but her messy apartment left a bad first impression. Tim went all out for Alex’s parents-cooking, bringing gifts, and cleaning-while she didn’t do the same for his parents, who drove 10 hours. It appeared he wanted someone who was more conscientious and considerate. It was tough to watch him decide he didn't want to see her again, but at least he was honest and told her directly.
In my experience watching these shows, men are often vilified for being truthful or for not speaking up. You can't have it both ways. Ultimately, Tim was honest about his needs and didn’t waste anyone's time. I respect him for drawing a line and standing by his beliefs.
Alex never had a chance with Tim. Never
Yes because Tim is closeted. He's not going to be happy with a biological woman.
@@calikeisha365Oop 😂😂
I agree, after their fight in Mexico, he wanted to get back at her. Probably wanted to make it to the alter just to say no too.
False! Alex disrespected him in Mexico, which she didn’t deny. He seemed done with the situation but decided to give it another try. Then there was her messy apartment; she didn’t make an effort to impress his parents, while he went the extra mile for hers. It just wasn’t a match, and he told her to her face. That’s life!
Hopefully, the reunion will provide more insight for everyone, allowing for a more informed opinion.
Tim never got over Alex calling him out his name in the previous episode which is probably why he cut her off the way he did in this episode. While Alex has her flaws, Tim's approach to breaking up with her was brutal 😬
We don’t know the ways Alex disrespected him, calling him out of his name and such. Idt it’s brutal 🤷🏽♀️ the man reached his limit ijs
Wat name??
This season has been wild. Everyone better have had therapy by now!!!!
Honestly, Alex and NO ONE deserves a guy that is always threatening to leave, there's no conversation with him, it's always "i dont like that im breaking it up" which is very immature, he's not "good vibes" he's stuck up in his own ways for too long that he can't be bothered to move, he expects the mountain to come to him. Odd guy
Alex gives a lot of me vibes, I have ADHD and I sleep A LOT and it has been a problem in relationships before, I'm a little less messy because I've lived with friends for so long, but before that...girl, her apartment was my clean day...I think she may be neurodivergent too, every time I have to socialize my energy must be recharged in a nap I swear.
Absolutely! Their last conversation when he wanted her to "read her mind" reminded me of my conversations with some people, when I have to remind them I am autistic (plus ADHD) and need very clear expectations and communication. My heart broke for her. She is giving neurodivergent vibes, for sure (the mess, which in my opinion is due to decision paralysis, being overwhelmed after a day at work and needing naps, the need for direct communication, not "reading the room" during the meeting with his parents...)
Yeah when she mentioned she was at work all day interacting with people, which is basically “normal day” for majority I would say, for her this was reason of being exhausted. And the apartment. While we don’t know how she was in the show’s flat, besides the incident of not doing the dishes on the day of parents visit, there are signs she might be struggling with something.
@@kasiapetruk6730 Yes, when I was in college I worked as a hostess in a bar and I would get home and sleep all day because it drained so much my energy, I totally understand her
Tims parents work because Tim's dad (from what we see on camera) doesn't seem like a push back type of guy. Momma definitely ran that house. So Tim is looking for a strong "push back" type of woman like his mom, but he doesn't know how to really handle that.
Love your point about transparency and honesty 👌🏾 I was angry for Nick re talking to friends about sex and you know it’s on tv
I thi k Hannah getting "kicked out" at 18 was more like the parents said if you live under my roof youll...xyz maybe they asked her to pay rent maybe they said she cant come home too late something like that and she said well then Ill move out ie her way, or the highway. The girl exhausted me this drop and she was wrong for airing their issues in the bedroom when he didnt want to talk about that topic on camera at all. Like all her other grievances.... we get it girl but youre not acting right, youre not being a partner. And how shes being intimate with him when she clearly hates his guts.... is beyond me
@@kalikayy he actually slept with that creature. 🐷🤮
People are trying to justify Hannahs behavior like Nick acted even half as bad as Cole with Zinab..
I dont understand why/ how Ashley is so committed to this stranger. You'd think they have been together for years, hasn't it been like a month?
@@msshug9995 She’s committed to being married.
Tim’s Mom calls Tim Drake because she wanted to name him Drake, but the dad wanted to name him after himself . She mentioned that briefly.
Tim’s mom needs to let that TF go! 😂
Why she like the name drake
Waaaaait, maybe Stephen wasn't lying when he said Garrett was having a moment and they were both talking about people contacting them and trying to get their attention. That text in this context.... hmm.....😮
I’ve been waiting on this video since Tim ended that relationship!!!😂😂😂😂 Thanks
Tim’s mother was too eager and thrilled to hand him over despite only meeting Alex just hours prior. The fact that she was like 95-100% in support of the experiment was a red flag for me. I get the sense that she knows that her son Tim “aka” Drake has some type of behavior or mental problem as well as a chronic history of dysfunction in his relationships with women primarily on his part. Her demeanor and transparency just appears be desperation for Tim to be married with a family. If she really wants to be supportive, she should encourage Tim to seek mental health therapy to address his own issues because he definitely has some type of undiagnosed mental health and or complexity disorder.
This season is wild. Absolutely wild. Taylor and Garrett are the only ones who know how to communicate even a little bit!
From Day 1 I’ve said Hannah is giving Zanab & Cole vibes and she damn near just proved me psychic. I said just wait, she’s gonna blast that man publicly and blame everything on him.
Yes!
Don't worry...fans on social media are gonna give her such a hard time that she'll burst into tears during the Reunion 😂
Its really disrespectful of Hannah to talk about their sex life on camera.If roles had been reversed people would be MAD at Nick. I feel Nick is a great guy,he needs a nice girl in his life.
If I’m giving, I better be receiving,,and that story ends there 🤣🤣🤣 love you Queenie
Hannah's concerns are super valid. Her delivery..! Chile she does not respect him at all
i hope they bring out the baby mama at the reunion 🤭 that would be a gaggggg
TYLER is scary.....
TIM is an immovable object....
NICK is panicking over sharing the marital chores
RAMSIS is 2 steps away from being Steven
GARRET ....why would you omit that ...?
Hannah exhausts me.
For a person who reads a lot, she sure lacks empathy and emotional intelligence
The way ive been waiting all day for your review
Hmmm… why did Tyler say the kids don’t know what he looks like and vice versa… Euhhh bro. There’s pics out there. Lies lies lies
I don't get why people do this. He dropped a bomb on her, why not drop the whole bomb?? She accepted the situation and now she's going to go through another devastation when she sees his real involvement.
Anybody else think that was a misleading edit? I sure do.
@@joanna0988exactly she was willing to forgive but I think he’s lying because he has an ulterior motive for Ashley. I think he’s making sure she marries him to tell the whole truth
Cuz when they filmed this it hadn’t come out yet and his dumb behind prob thought it wouldn’t 🤷🏻♀️
Did anyone notice that there is little to no confessionals in this season?
@@preciouslawrence472 good observation & that might explain why we’re all in the dark about all these off-camera moments
Hannah's goal at this point was to just embarrass Nick and belittle him.
Not me being here within a minuteeeee! 😂
No fr I’m like where these reviews at from everybody 😂
Ashley answered her own question, "Why would you wait until I feel like this to tell me this news?" Sister, your therapizing yourself. Listen to your intuition, Ashley A.