Taylor, Lana and Beyonce. They're the only ones with 2 albums in the endlessly relevant tier💅 (and they also happen to be my holy trinity of musical artists🤭).
you’re so real for putting reputation in endlessly relevant. It’s not even like an amazing amazing album but there is no denial that it is endlessly relevant.
With entertainment and all of that, I like the way you use your words. I actually want to listen to everything you say. You have a certain talent for keeping people engaged through out. I get that it’s your job. But just wanted to say I appreciate it.
i absolutely love and celebrate the variety of artists in this list! each one of these women excel in different areas of the craft (songwriting, performing, singing, curating, etc) and i believe we should stop demanding artist to be on top of everything they create bc most times it can feel inauthentic and forced
Loved seeing you put Carly Rae Jepsen's Kiss in endlessly relevant. I'm always rooting for her and respect that she's still a relatively indie pop girl.
KNEW artpop was gonna be endlessly relevant, charli xcx and rina sawayama esp are bringing so much to the table nowadays and none of the hyper pop resurgence would be possible if it weren’t for artpop being light years ahead of it times, ofc it flopped in 2013 bc society wasn’t ready for it
Lol as an Artpop lover myself, I think you’re exaggerating a bit. Artpop was more so a trend following album sonically, really cranking in its EDM sounds. While I love Artpop, it really wasn’t that dissimilar from what was popular at the time. Is it better and more artistic than the mainstream EDM that was popular at the time? Undeniably so! But unfortunately did not reshape pop music like people claim it did.
I agree with every single pick. Such a shame Emotion did not do that well commercially, because Run Away With Me is truly pop perfection and everyone deserves to know about that song. Loved the video!
i know damn well that future nostalgia, folklore and sour will be endlessly relevant for the next coming years future nostalgia is THE MOMENT there’s just no reason to try not to deny that. it also started the disco pop revival we’ve been seeing in pop music folklore has literally never been done before. i think we were all shocked to hear an album like this from her coming off of lover. this album put Taylor back in the good books for me after the crayola pride my little pony shite she put us through during lover. i think folklore defined the “quarantine album” semi-genre although i don’t love it, sour has undoubtedly changed the pop music space in the past 2 years. olivia is the britney of gen z in a way that the copycats start to become some of the only other relevant girlies in the music industry. obviously britney was so different, and olivia will never be the next britney, but the teens have reacted to olivia and the copycats in the same way that teens did to britney. pretty much every song you hear on tiktok was inspired by olivia somehow
Agree with all three, and I don't even think we realise right now how much sour shifted things cause we're right in it now, but it will definitely go out as a hallmark of the 2020s
@@theswiftologist apparently she’s been hinting for OR2 to come on June 30th 👀 im not her biggest fan but I’m really interested in what kind of risks she is gonna take and where her career is gonna go from here I think she has massive potential
I love folklore but I really think Lana started that trend and you can clearly hear her influence on folklore. Nfr influenced all of those quarantine girlies
i agree with like almost all of it i think, except that i think ultraviolence deserves to go in endlessly relevant. The sound is reappearing in quite a lot of todays releases, and the album itself is making a strong comeback on tiktok, esp west coast, ultraviolence (the song) and sad girl from what has appeared on my fyp
When I first stumbled onto your videos, I was unsure of whether your vibe aligned with mine… but out of sheer curiosity, I kept watching. Now? I could listen to you wax poetic on pop culture for hours. 😂 I hope you continue to resist letting the unhinged fans deter you from sharing your special brand of analysis because it’s absolutely top tier. ✨
ok also crybaby, let’s talk about it. LOVE the album, i had another phase with it this year. i completely understand where your coming from with the “i’m an adult baby” aesthetic. HOWEVER, the album is so unique and oddly so well received that i cannot help but praise it and applaud the artist. also…minus a couple songs, i think the album is a banger start to finish
personally i think even if teenage dream is not being replicated at the moment is still relevant because as you said that artists can have their “lemonade” moment at their prime, people still compare “eras” like dua lipa’s future nostalgia as their “teenage dream” moment. so maybe if not the sound in itself is what stuck, the marketing can been seen in some artists up until recently
yea i think if we are going to put 1989 in endlessly relevant teenage dream has to be as well, and that’s coming from someone who’s favourite album is 1989😭
@@lorenzobelluscio3265 I disagree! who is making music inspired by teenage dream rn? there's plenty of 1989-esque, jack antonoff pop girl production going on. max martin has literally fallen out of fashion
@@theswiftologist yeah but im not talking about the sound and production, im talking about the era as a whole being like a pop blueprint for artists like dua now
@@lorenzobelluscio3265 teenage dream was not a blueprint of an era. it was a very successful album, but it was not unique or new from any sort of commercial element lmfao you could say the exact same thing about kelly clarkson's breakaway, lady gaga's the fame, or beyonce's i am sasha fierce which all came out before it!
I found your channel a few weeks ago through your Lana videos and have been absolutely loving it! Your voice is super nice to listen to and I really enjoy your thoughtful analyses and reactions!
Two things 1. Respectfully I think the album teenage dream is endlessly relevant even if many artists today don’t take a ton of inspiration from it everyone still easily recognizes the majority of the songs on that record 2. As for the one 1989 song you don’t like I completely understand besides the fact that the chorus HITTTS. However, I am curious which part makes you not like this song is it the sound of the verses or the lyrics themselves?
ive been on a swiftologist binge and I have to say, this video is so right and one of my favorites from you! I would have ranked things differently from personal bias, but from an objective, logical, realistic music appreciation perspective, I would not move or adjust any of your rankings. you kept everything culturally relevant and your arguments for why you ranked things in certain places were all valid. I truly admire this impartial and critical outlook on media! we NEED more content creators with this mindset. thank you for your service!!!!
Can we also talk about the influence Glee had on many of these albums/songs of that time? Many people fell in love with these albums/songs because of Glee. Respect your thoughts in this video. Well spoken!
I think Imagine off of "Thank You Next" is a great song worth revisiting. It's still a stand out in her discography for me. It's a reimaging of the John Lennons iconic song of the same name. In John Lennons Imagine he askes everybody to imagine a world where peace exists without war or hunger... In Ariana Grandes version she askes her partner Mac Miller (who died of an over does back in 2018 and had an imagine tattoo on his arm) to imagine a world in which they live a peaceful life together; ordering take away food and enjoying simple pleasures of life like bubble baths and sleeping in. It's a heart breaking but hopeful song that got to the root of what John Lennon's original song was getting at... which is that world peace is individual peace.
I think you needed a category in between endlessly relevant and iconic moment, like “aged like wine”. One exemple of this would be like Ultraviolence, which is much more than an iconic moment, it’s still an album that is timeless and iconic and that we go back to often but maybe just not revolutionary
here is my “prediction” for a 2020s version: endlessly relevant: future nostalgia, folklore, midnights, sos, renaissance. an iconic moment: sour, plastic hearts, chromatica, planet her, special, positions, evermore, did you know that there’s a tunnel under ocean blvd. kind of nothing: 30, born pink, endless summer vacation, familia. aging like milk: we obviously can’t really tell what this category will look like. scoot braun: takin’ it back. it’s hard because so many recent hits have just been singles :(
I love your deep knowledge and educated opinions. Yes to more content like this. Even though I either disagree or don’t know albums you rank I find these deeply interesting
I do think Reputation had more impact than Red. But in no way as a body of work is Reputation better. When you go through the record it actually just scratches the surface and most songs are eventually exploring the topic very shallowly.
I don’t think reputation had much of an impact simple because the idea of a “reputation” album , ie an album directed at addressing the public after a hate train isn’t remotely new. It just takes an already already existing shtick and play on it very shallowly. Clearly Taylor swift makes a very cringe “bad girl” I’m sorry 💀. Red is more influential
Not exactly. The sales are counted as one, but they were released at different times, in separated cds (in some countries like US you could buy TFM alone, in others you had to buy it with TF as a double CD), they were awarded separately too, etc. But most importantly, they were two different ERAS, with different concepts, sound, aesthetics, etc.
Wrong. It was essentially a deluxe. A continuation. The other side of the”fame”. The project itself is one whole concept. Doesn’t matter if it was released later on. Even The tour continued on after its release as the monster ball- touring both sides of that record. So like i said that era is one. Thanks
this is probably your most entertaining video in my opinion! i loveddd it, one of my favs overall on your channel. you hadn’t really given opinions on a lot of these artists and I loved hearing your takes on them. would definitely be interested in hearing more takes on the pop girlies in the future because you do such a great job with giving your opinion but backing it up too. loved the video and thank you for all you’ve been putting out lately! your videos really do make my day when they come out
One thing I would change would be to put Ultraviolence in endlessly relevant, because its still such a superb example of a conversation starter in the area of feminism, its used as a signpost to measure where 'the culture' was and where it has gone over the past decade (especially considering how long it has taken for some of the initial backlash to yield to a more understanding acceptance and acknowledgement of the sorts of experiences that inspire an album like Ultraviolence). Even if its not looked on favorably by some, you can't deny that's it's certainly still talked about at length. Also, the kind of alternative/rock influence it had is very enduring which is uncommon in a lot of pop music that's very bubblegum and synthetic.
i believe Melodrama should be on top, when it was released there's no other music sounds like it and as time goes by i can hear now the influence Melodrama to other music artist.
An album I think would be considered to be in the "2020's pop girl album ranking" would be Rina Sawayama's "SAWAYAMA" !!! Lately I've been getting into that album and it's just sprinkled with some bangers :P
watching this in 2024 and i think you should DEFINITELY do this again sometime soon since we are approaching the halfway mark of the 2020s!! also i loved the way you chose to rank these. like not just the albums you personally liked best, but which had the most impact or culture or which are just dated af. great vid!
please continue this as a series! videos like yours are so hard to come by and i love your delivery of concise, clear analysis about the works you review :)
i agree about call me maybe but i cannot name a single other carly rae jepsen song that isn't the one that went viral on tiktok a few months ago lmfao... so i agree and appreciate the top tier but i would take that one out ! loved the video
While I pretty much agreed with your rankings, you did stab my heart a tiny bit on 2. Adele 25 and the worst pain was Stronger by Kelly Clarkson That album was so good. Ironically, Kelly covered Taylor’s song Clean on her show. The video popped up while I was watching this lol she heard you dissing Stronger 😄 I love that Kelly seems to be a Swiftie and totally encouraged the re recording of her albums. Still a fan of your videos and been enjoying the podcasts.
I absolutely loved this video! So so interesting, and as always, they way you analyse and talk is so engaging. I pretty much more or less agree with all of your choices, I think the only one I would hard disagree on is the Kesha album. I understand why you put it in ageing like milk, since we definitely do not listen to that style of music anymore, and have not for a while, but in my opinion it is kind of like Rihanna's "anti." Outdated but SO SO iconic. Like everyone knew Kesha and TikTok, and whilst no one actively makes music like that anymore, whenever it comes on in a club, everyone goes crazy for it. I think that's why I would put that one in an iconic moment.
I think the fact that All Too Well, the 10 minute version, hitting 1# 10 years after it was first release is enough proof of how relevant that is. Aside from that, I think I agree with mostly everything.
Definitely agree, great video - I have to say for right now I think Renaissance is gonna be inspiring people for a while, it's such a stand out album with it's structure and sounds, and an iconic moment of course
This video and a couple others where you delve into more diverse and less Taylor focused video topics make me think you should , not necessarily abandon Taylor, but have your primary goal be more general pop culture, because your knowledge of it so expansive. You could definitely go further and have a larger audience if you leave the niche of swiftology more on the back burner. And this comes from a big Taylor fan that helped me find you in the first place anyway.
I completely agree with all of your rankings - the one I slightly disagree with is 'Teenage Dream,' however, I do think '1989' is more relevant than 'Teenage Dream', and it would have been strange to put both of them in the same tier. Ranking the selling pop girl albums of the 2020s so far - some of these albums have not yet sold 2 million copies in the US yet, however, I kind of guessed which ones would get there by the end of the decade. Endlessly Relevant: Future Nostalgia (an excellent and cohesive record that brought back pure-pop!), folklore (when you think of lockdown... I know you think of folklore) Iconic Moment: Rare (Selena's performance at the AMAs will always be iconic), Chromatica (Rain on Me was iconic), Plastic Hearts (I think Miley really suited the rock genre), evermore (it just fit into this tier), Good News (the Savage Remix is iconic), Fearless (Taylor's Version) (the first of the re-recordings and will always be remembered for setting the precedent of what to expect for a re-recording), sour (drivers license, deja vu, good 4 u, and brutal are iconic! Olivia set a lot of records during this era and she ruled the charts in 2021!), Planet Her (Kiss Me More is an excellent pop-song, and Planet Her is a rare example of a long-term successful era in the streaming age), Happier Than Ever (the tonal shift of the title track alone), Red (Taylor's Version) (ATW10MV was everywhere, the drama over IKYWT and WANGBT being botched - it was iconic!), Renaissance (an amazing album - and brought house music back to the manstream, however, I cannot really see it being replicated but I guess we will see with Renaissance Act 2 & 3), Midnights (not good enough to be in the Endlessly Relevant tier sorry... but Taylor occupying the entirety of the top 10 will always be remembered), SOS (I love SOS and it deserves to be in Endlessly Relevant, however, I think we need a few more years to see its impact on the music being created), Endless Summer Vacation (the album kind of tanked but Flowers was an iconic moment and it was everywhere! The Bruno Mars sample really drummed up interest in the song, however, this interest did not spill over into the album lol...) Kind of nothing: Maniac (I think this album will eventually go into the Ageing like milk category because it is not ageing well), Special (I love Lizzo but the only recognisable song on the album is About Damn Time), 30 (there is a reason why it is Adele's shortest charting album - EOM was like the only good song on the album, and it is a rip-off version of 'Hello.') Ageing like milk: Positions (the production is already very outdated, and it was just not a very well thought out project... sorry, the title track and POV are good songs, however, 34+35 was embarrassing) Scooter Braun: N/A
You know what you’re so right about Joanne. I tried so hard to like it when it came out and a few songs are alright but this is reminding me that I cannot remember the last time I put that album on lmao and Gaga is my girl. Also your opinion on every album here is ACCURATE. 🎉
ok i randomly started listening to kesha, and cannibal is actually sooooo good. i had an actual obsession with the album when it was released. she was literally churning out hits like crazy, and i think it’s insane how we just forget about artists like her. granted i have not listened to high road, but damn animal/cannibal go HARD. crazy kids, thinking of you, c’mon all off warrior? BANGERS.
10:33 *Sweetener* wasn't exactly coming on the heels of MM's passing, - he passed shortly after the album came out. This event has more to do with the next album.
me needing to go on youtube for something to watch while practicing a guitar song. me seeing this and being ecstatic about the topic and liking it and knowing how good its gonna be before even watching it
I think Revival should went to Endlessy Relevent as the album eventually inspired Glory (Britney Spears). It also inspired a Brazilian singer called Manu Gavassi, I think you definitely don't know her, but Revival inspired her third studio album. We see this in the similarity of the covers as well. Other than that commercially it was a very lucrative era and made Selena impeach hits that will probably be known by different people for a long time like: Hands to Myself, Good For You, Same Old Love, Kill 'Em With Kidness. Selena knew very well how to enjoy the 2015 Edm/Dance - Pop songs without sounding dated or disconnected. We also can see that the Revival permeated the influence for some artists like Dua Lipa (on her first album), The Chainsmokers and Ed Sheeran with dance-pop, electronic music with this tropical influence.
@@aravindrenmahenthiran6258 well this was a year ago so i was like obsessed with it for a few months but now i literally never listen to to because i streamed it so much lol. It was pretty cool and i like the music but i’m into other stuff now
My main go-to pop girlies in the 2010s were: Beyoncé, Rihanna, Ariana Grande, Fifth Harmony, and Little Mix. I listened to Demi a bit and I didn’t start wanting to listen to TS until the end of the decade. The others I only listened to the hits except for Lana and Melanie Martinez. They’re not my taste so I never listened to them. But here’s my top tier albums by my favorites. Beyoncé: 4, Lemonade, B’Day Rihanna: Good Girl Gone Bad, Rated R, Loud Ariana Grande: My Everything, Dangerous Woman, thank u, next Fifth Harmony: 7/27 Little Mix: LM5, Confetti, Glory Days
I’m kind of curious how you feel about Katy Perry’s Smile (as well as what you see for KP6). You actually inspired me to do a reworking of that album and I personally rank as one of my favorite of her albums
I would actually love to know your opinion about Tiktok and how it impacted the music industry. I mean I kinda can sense your opinion when you're referencing short attention spans, but other then that how it impacted the production and what kind of music the artists are making is endlessly fascinating for me. Also are you not Florence and the machine fan? Just curious!
Demi’s HOLY FVCK wasn’t like a commercial or charts success, but that album is amazing and my favorite she’s done. But I know that’s not the 10s decade, just wanted to say that. Also, I really really enjoyed this video! I mostly agree with your rankings honestly. I would agree on most of the albums that were in the bottom two tiers. I just don’t revisit them anymore. I do still have a lot of love for Avril and Kesha though!
I'm a big Adele fan, so my opinion is biased: '25' is iconic! 'When we were young' is almost as good as 'someone like you' 😭 And have you listened to her latest album '30' ? It incorporates like 5 different genres... Her music isn't boring! Besides that, I agree with your ranking 😊
Loved this format of video. I tend to like your longer videos because I’m a youtube in the background girlie. Made me want to go back and have another little throwback listen to a few of these
I know it's all just your opinion, but I can't tolerate Madison Beer slander. "Life Support" album and her other singles are pretty coherent and good overall. Calling her an Ariana's copycat is lil bit of a reach.
What you said about Beyoncé put words something I’ve thought but couldn’t articulate….her recorded catalog doesn’t match the charisma of her performances! When I’m watching her sing and dance? I’m gagged. Sometimes on streaming though (even w renaissance…. Beyoncé Stans don’t kill me) she falls flat. I feel like that’s a unique problem that not many artists have today, but I think that an artist who’s better live is a really stellar one since not all girls today can say the same
I feel like Ultraviolence by Lana Del Rey is extremely relevant even after a decade of being out. The aesthetic on that album specifically is refurbished all throughout the music industry. It’s okay that Lana will inevitably have many albums in that tier because she is a trailblazer… and that’s okay! 🖤
sorry, but Femme Fatale aged like milk… it is not irrelevant album anymore. almost every song on this album sounds outdated. and when this album came out it in 2011 was never iconic either. this is one of the most forgettable Britney’s album blackout and circus were iconic
I got a ticket to the Eras tour in November and I spent the past 2 weeks avoiding spoilers... thank goodness you made a video unrelated to taylor cause omg this is gonna be tough cause your videos are so great!
Hey just wanted to inform you that in the past 48 hours, around 10 Lana songs have leaked many of which are from the Ultraviolence era. Specifically check out Pink Champagne (Love you like a Woman demo), Earthquakes, Summertime (Janis Joplin cover), Lake Placid. 🤗 I think you would LOVE LOVE LOVE Dragonslayer which leaked a couple months back, also from UV.
Such a fun video! Would love to see your take on pop boybands.. How they came to be, have they aged well, which are the best ones, how do they compare with the pop girlies, etc etc
I just want to plead on the case of Born This Way being an endlessly relevant album in activism in music. Prior to Born This Way I dont think we can say that a lot of music at the time was created with the intention to spark activism or directly target a certain political or social cause, even Firework at the time was lauded as a “gay anthem” has to use subtle lyrical hints and music video that address every single issue to make it universal. But the album changed that in a sense that more music will try to directly deal one topic or one specific ideology that reject the idea of actually needing the music to be “universal”. I would say that the entire witness era for Katy was a conscious effort to turn Katy into a more mature, Gaga-like activism artist, similar to how You Need To Calm Down was also influenced somehow by Born This Way, and Beyoncé using her albums to address certain social issues, and she finally breaking out from her mould to realise that she doesn’t need to make music that pleases every audience, is also somehow influenced by Born This Way.
“Speak Now can’t be endlessly relevant because she’s irrelevant to Taylor Swift” I’m crying
still true to this day
SCOOTER BRAUN BEING WORSE THAN AGEING MILK IS GIVING ME LIFEEE 😭
hes the devil literally
of course scooter braun is the last tier. though maybe next time john mayer or calvin harris should be the bottom tier right where they belong!
@@giannalosik8144 or kanye West 😂
Kanye and Scooter are horrible
This is such good content. Please do a 2000s version! And/or 2010s/2000s best selling songs
omg yes I def will do a y2k version
@@theswiftologistnow where is it...
@@theswiftologistwe’re still waiting sir
@@theswiftologistgonna need that 2020-2023 version i can’t wait 6 years 😭
WAITINGGGGGGG
It's Lana and Taylor's world, and we're living in it.
Taylor, Lana and Beyonce. They're the only ones with 2 albums in the endlessly relevant tier💅 (and they also happen to be my holy trinity of musical artists🤭).
so true!
It’s you, it’s you, it’s all for you, everything we do….Lana 😁
MY 2 FAV ARTISTS
also 1989 is my fav album ever and born to die is second
@@lavenyr wtf???😭😭😭 Are you me? Those are my favorites as well😭
you’re so real for putting reputation in endlessly relevant. It’s not even like an amazing amazing album but there is no denial that it is endlessly relevant.
i'm sad marina's electra heart didn't have the commercial success it deserved because that album is genius
the grip that album had in the tumblr girlies in 2012 along with Lana
genius is a stretch. it was definitely a serve tho!
With entertainment and all of that, I like the way you use your words. I actually want to listen to everything you say. You have a certain talent for keeping people engaged through out. I get that it’s your job. But just wanted to say I appreciate it.
thank you so much gabby!!
agreed agreed agreed!
A SWIFTOLOGIST VIDEO ON A THURSDAY AFTER NOON???ZACH YOU ARE AMZING IM SO EXCITED TO WATCH THIS OMG!! 🫶🏻
I was feeling generous today !!!
@@theswiftologistand we stan you for that
I would love to see you discuss career-defining televised performances by pop girls!
GREAT idea!
It's so cool to see you branch out more, rather than just Lana and Taylor(which is cool too). Looking forward to more.
thank you!!
as a little mix stan, you putting glory days in an iconic moment was amazing, we appreciate it
i absolutely love and celebrate the variety of artists in this list! each one of these women excel in different areas of the craft (songwriting, performing, singing, curating, etc) and i believe we should stop demanding artist to be on top of everything they create bc most times it can feel inauthentic and forced
Loved seeing you put Carly Rae Jepsen's Kiss in endlessly relevant. I'm always rooting for her and respect that she's still a relatively indie pop girl.
KNEW artpop was gonna be endlessly relevant, charli xcx and rina sawayama esp are bringing so much to the table nowadays and none of the hyper pop resurgence would be possible if it weren’t for artpop being light years ahead of it times, ofc it flopped in 2013 bc society wasn’t ready for it
holy shit i neeed to listen to it!
Lol as an Artpop lover myself, I think you’re exaggerating a bit. Artpop was more so a trend following album sonically, really cranking in its EDM sounds. While I love Artpop, it really wasn’t that dissimilar from what was popular at the time. Is it better and more artistic than the mainstream EDM that was popular at the time? Undeniably so! But unfortunately did not reshape pop music like people claim it did.
I agree with every single pick. Such a shame Emotion did not do that well commercially, because Run Away With Me is truly pop perfection and everyone deserves to know about that song. Loved the video!
It’s literally one of the best pop albums of the decade, the side b es incredible too
loooove emotion
Omg so gooood
Emotion was my happy place in 2020 😢
Can't wait for a 2000s album ranking
omggg yes
i know damn well that future nostalgia, folklore and sour will be endlessly relevant for the next coming years
future nostalgia is THE MOMENT there’s just no reason to try not to deny that. it also started the disco pop revival we’ve been seeing in pop music
folklore has literally never been done before. i think we were all shocked to hear an album like this from her coming off of lover. this album put Taylor back in the good books for me after the crayola pride my little pony shite she put us through during lover. i think folklore defined the “quarantine album” semi-genre
although i don’t love it, sour has undoubtedly changed the pop music space in the past 2 years. olivia is the britney of gen z in a way that the copycats start to become some of the only other relevant girlies in the music industry. obviously britney was so different, and olivia will never be the next britney, but the teens have reacted to olivia and the copycats in the same way that teens did to britney. pretty much every song you hear on tiktok was inspired by olivia somehow
Agree with all three, and I don't even think we realise right now how much sour shifted things cause we're right in it now, but it will definitely go out as a hallmark of the 2020s
not so sure about sour! I'm gonna hang on for OR2
@@theswiftologist I'm really interested to see where she goes from here, it's a lot of pressure
@@theswiftologist apparently she’s been hinting for OR2 to come on June 30th 👀 im not her biggest fan but I’m really interested in what kind of risks she is gonna take and where her career is gonna go from here I think she has massive potential
I love folklore but I really think Lana started that trend and you can clearly hear her influence on folklore. Nfr influenced all of those quarantine girlies
I was scared when you put ‘4’ as kind of nothing but happy you moved it to where it deserves! I’d love to see you do an analysis on Melodrama
Yes I’d love to see it too.
i agree with like almost all of it i think, except that i think ultraviolence deserves to go in endlessly relevant. The sound is reappearing in quite a lot of todays releases, and the album itself is making a strong comeback on tiktok, esp west coast, ultraviolence (the song) and sad girl from what has appeared on my fyp
When I first stumbled onto your videos, I was unsure of whether your vibe aligned with mine… but out of sheer curiosity, I kept watching. Now? I could listen to you wax poetic on pop culture for hours. 😂 I hope you continue to resist letting the unhinged fans deter you from sharing your special brand of analysis because it’s absolutely top tier. ✨
thank you daniel!! I will soldier on ....
55 entire minutes... the Swiftologist always delivers 🙏
ok also crybaby, let’s talk about it. LOVE the album, i had another phase with it this year. i completely understand where your coming from with the “i’m an adult baby” aesthetic. HOWEVER, the album is so unique and oddly so well received that i cannot help but praise it and applaud the artist. also…minus a couple songs, i think the album is a banger start to finish
period
I used to love it when it came out.
Looking back at it now, I get heavy creepy vibes
@@soaribb32i think that’s the point
personally i think even if teenage dream is not being replicated at the moment is still relevant because as you said that artists can have their “lemonade” moment at their prime, people still compare “eras” like dua lipa’s future nostalgia as their “teenage dream” moment. so maybe if not the sound in itself is what stuck, the marketing can been seen in some artists up until recently
yea i think if we are going to put 1989 in endlessly relevant teenage dream has to be as well, and that’s coming from someone who’s favourite album is 1989😭
@@bobbysreview exactly !! 1989 is also an example of that
@@lorenzobelluscio3265 I disagree! who is making music inspired by teenage dream rn? there's plenty of 1989-esque, jack antonoff pop girl production going on. max martin has literally fallen out of fashion
@@theswiftologist yeah but im not talking about the sound and production, im talking about the era as a whole being like a pop blueprint for artists like dua now
@@lorenzobelluscio3265 teenage dream was not a blueprint of an era. it was a very successful album, but it was not unique or new from any sort of commercial element lmfao you could say the exact same thing about kelly clarkson's breakaway, lady gaga's the fame, or beyonce's i am sasha fierce which all came out before it!
Zack serving absolute taste like always. This ranking and video is so good
this might sound weird but i really could listen to you talking for hours, love how you're so articulate. also love your personality lol
I found your channel a few weeks ago through your Lana videos and have been absolutely loving it! Your voice is super nice to listen to and I really enjoy your thoughtful analyses and reactions!
thank you so much!!
This is the bravest thing I've ever seen someone do.
As a Katy Stan, we are surprised whenever we see witness appear literally anywhere 😭
looool
True 😭it's so unappreciated imo
Two things
1. Respectfully I think the album teenage dream is endlessly relevant even if many artists today don’t take a ton of inspiration from it everyone still easily recognizes the majority of the songs on that record
2. As for the one 1989 song you don’t like I completely understand besides the fact that the chorus HITTTS. However, I am curious which part makes you not like this song is it the sound of the verses or the lyrics themselves?
Whats the 1989 song he doesn't like?
Exactly Katy Perry is an inspiration to Dua lipa (who's a stan), Ava max and Olivia Rodrigo, this Katy hate trend needs to stop !
@@tenzen6899 noo
What song?
ive been on a swiftologist binge and I have to say, this video is so right and one of my favorites from you! I would have ranked things differently from personal bias, but from an objective, logical, realistic music appreciation perspective, I would not move or adjust any of your rankings. you kept everything culturally relevant and your arguments for why you ranked things in certain places were all valid. I truly admire this impartial and critical outlook on media! we NEED more content creators with this mindset. thank you for your service!!!!
Can we also talk about the influence Glee had on many of these albums/songs of that time? Many people fell in love with these albums/songs because of Glee. Respect your thoughts in this video. Well spoken!
this was so entertaining and thorough!! and thank you for always giving praise to little mix because they really deserve better!!
thank you for watching
I think Imagine off of "Thank You Next" is a great song worth revisiting. It's still a stand out in her discography for me. It's a reimaging of the John Lennons iconic song of the same name. In John Lennons Imagine he askes everybody to imagine a world where peace exists without war or hunger... In Ariana Grandes version she askes her partner Mac Miller (who died of an over does back in 2018 and had an imagine tattoo on his arm) to imagine a world in which they live a peaceful life together; ordering take away food and enjoying simple pleasures of life like bubble baths and sleeping in. It's a heart breaking but hopeful song that got to the root of what John Lennon's original song was getting at... which is that world peace is individual peace.
I think you needed a category in between endlessly relevant and iconic moment, like “aged like wine”. One exemple of this would be like Ultraviolence, which is much more than an iconic moment, it’s still an album that is timeless and iconic and that we go back to often but maybe just not revolutionary
Like ultraviolance on the side of revival really?
here is my “prediction” for a 2020s version:
endlessly relevant: future nostalgia, folklore, midnights, sos, renaissance. an iconic moment: sour, plastic hearts, chromatica, planet her, special, positions, evermore, did you know that there’s a tunnel under ocean blvd. kind of nothing: 30, born pink, endless summer vacation, familia. aging like milk: we obviously can’t really tell what this category will look like. scoot braun: takin’ it back. it’s hard because so many recent hits have just been singles :(
And we still got 7 years and 9 months left until we really know.
good picks!!
positions and Special are kind of nothing if you ask me.
@@henrywayne5724 i mainly put special in that category due to how big about damn time was. also due to me personally thinking it’s underrated.
Heaven & Hell?
Loved this. I want to see you rank the pop girlies/pop music women overall themselves next. I wanna hear all the why.
I love your deep knowledge and educated opinions. Yes to more content like this. Even though I either disagree or don’t know albums you rank I find these deeply interesting
touch it getting the respect it deserves I know that’s right!! the swiftologist always delivers
I do think Reputation had more impact than Red.
But in no way as a body of work is Reputation better. When you go through the record it actually just scratches the surface and most songs are eventually exploring the topic very shallowly.
I don’t think reputation had much of an impact simple because the idea of a “reputation” album , ie an album directed at addressing the public after a hate train isn’t remotely new. It just takes an already already existing shtick and play on it very shallowly. Clearly Taylor swift makes a very cringe “bad girl” I’m sorry 💀. Red is more influential
The Fame/monster. Teenage dream. 1989 - holy trinity. Legendary pop albums
The Fame and The Fame Monster are two completely different eras... You've got to chose which one makes it into the holy trinity,
@@rao803 The album is one, literally sold as one.
Not exactly. The sales are counted as one, but they were released at different times, in separated cds (in some countries like US you could buy TFM alone, in others you had to buy it with TF as a double CD), they were awarded separately too, etc.
But most importantly, they were two different ERAS, with different concepts, sound, aesthetics, etc.
Wrong. It was essentially a deluxe. A continuation. The other side of the”fame”. The project itself is one whole concept. Doesn’t matter if it was released later on. Even The tour continued on after its release as the monster ball- touring both sides of that record. So like i said that era is one. Thanks
@@dylanaz2354 Lmao, Gaga has stated herself that TFM is an album and era on it's own, no matter how it was realeased.
this is probably your most entertaining video in my opinion! i loveddd it, one of my favs overall on your channel. you hadn’t really given opinions on a lot of these artists and I loved hearing your takes on them. would definitely be interested in hearing more takes on the pop girlies in the future because you do such a great job with giving your opinion but backing it up too. loved the video and thank you for all you’ve been putting out lately! your videos really do make my day when they come out
One thing I would change would be to put Ultraviolence in endlessly relevant, because its still such a superb example of a conversation starter in the area of feminism, its used as a signpost to measure where 'the culture' was and where it has gone over the past decade (especially considering how long it has taken for some of the initial backlash to yield to a more understanding acceptance and acknowledgement of the sorts of experiences that inspire an album like Ultraviolence). Even if its not looked on favorably by some, you can't deny that's it's certainly still talked about at length. Also, the kind of alternative/rock influence it had is very enduring which is uncommon in a lot of pop music that's very bubblegum and synthetic.
Lana’s albums are all endlessly relevant simply because of how timeless her style and production is
i believe Melodrama should be on top, when it was released there's no other music sounds like it and as time goes by i can hear now the influence Melodrama to other music artist.
Definitely agree with endlessly relevant, would really love to see a video about melodrama or pure heroine
An album I think would be considered to be in the "2020's pop girl album ranking" would be Rina Sawayama's "SAWAYAMA" !!! Lately I've been getting into that album and it's just sprinkled with some bangers :P
Love this so much. There’s really no one else on TH-cam that I know of who is occupying the space you do.
watching this in 2024 and i think you should DEFINITELY do this again sometime soon since we are approaching the halfway mark of the 2020s!! also i loved the way you chose to rank these. like not just the albums you personally liked best, but which had the most impact or culture or which are just dated af. great vid!
I’ve watched this video about fifteen times now. I could listen to you talk about anything pop culture for hours.
Ctrl is truly iconic. I really like It bc It introduced me to the R&B world and SZA is a great storyteller (telling her own stories)
please continue this as a series! videos like yours are so hard to come by and i love your delivery of concise, clear analysis about the works you review :)
i agree about call me maybe but i cannot name a single other carly rae jepsen song that isn't the one that went viral on tiktok a few months ago lmfao... so i agree and appreciate the top tier but i would take that one out ! loved the video
Please do one for the 2020's so far!! I wanna see folklore and evermore commentary 😊
While I pretty much agreed with your rankings, you did stab my heart a tiny bit on 2.
Adele 25 and the worst pain was Stronger by Kelly Clarkson
That album was so good. Ironically, Kelly covered Taylor’s song Clean on her show. The video popped up while I was watching this lol she heard you dissing Stronger 😄
I love that Kelly seems to be a Swiftie and totally encouraged the re recording of her albums.
Still a fan of your videos and been enjoying the podcasts.
I absolutely loved this video! So so interesting, and as always, they way you analyse and talk is so engaging. I pretty much more or less agree with all of your choices, I think the only one I would hard disagree on is the Kesha album. I understand why you put it in ageing like milk, since we definitely do not listen to that style of music anymore, and have not for a while, but in my opinion it is kind of like Rihanna's "anti." Outdated but SO SO iconic. Like everyone knew Kesha and TikTok, and whilst no one actively makes music like that anymore, whenever it comes on in a club, everyone goes crazy for it. I think that's why I would put that one in an iconic moment.
I think the fact that All Too Well, the 10 minute version, hitting 1# 10 years after it was first release is enough proof of how relevant that is. Aside from that, I think I agree with mostly everything.
Definitely agree, great video - I have to say for right now I think Renaissance is gonna be inspiring people for a while, it's such a stand out album with it's structure and sounds, and an iconic moment of course
you put ctrl in endlessly relevant thank the lord. SO TASTEFUL
This video and a couple others where you delve into more diverse and less Taylor focused video topics make me think you should , not necessarily abandon Taylor, but have your primary goal be more general pop culture, because your knowledge of it so expansive. You could definitely go further and have a larger audience if you leave the niche of swiftology more on the back burner. And this comes from a big Taylor fan that helped me find you in the first place anyway.
I completely agree with all of your rankings - the one I slightly disagree with is 'Teenage Dream,' however, I do think '1989' is more relevant than 'Teenage Dream', and it would have been strange to put both of them in the same tier.
Ranking the selling pop girl albums of the 2020s so far - some of these albums have not yet sold 2 million copies in the US yet, however, I kind of guessed which ones would get there by the end of the decade.
Endlessly Relevant: Future Nostalgia (an excellent and cohesive record that brought back pure-pop!), folklore (when you think of lockdown... I know you think of folklore)
Iconic Moment: Rare (Selena's performance at the AMAs will always be iconic), Chromatica (Rain on Me was iconic), Plastic Hearts (I think Miley really suited the rock genre), evermore (it just fit into this tier), Good News (the Savage Remix is iconic), Fearless (Taylor's Version) (the first of the re-recordings and will always be remembered for setting the precedent of what to expect for a re-recording), sour (drivers license, deja vu, good 4 u, and brutal are iconic! Olivia set a lot of records during this era and she ruled the charts in 2021!), Planet Her (Kiss Me More is an excellent pop-song, and Planet Her is a rare example of a long-term successful era in the streaming age), Happier Than Ever (the tonal shift of the title track alone), Red (Taylor's Version) (ATW10MV was everywhere, the drama over IKYWT and WANGBT being botched - it was iconic!), Renaissance (an amazing album - and brought house music back to the manstream, however, I cannot really see it being replicated but I guess we will see with Renaissance Act 2 & 3), Midnights (not good enough to be in the Endlessly Relevant tier sorry... but Taylor occupying the entirety of the top 10 will always be remembered), SOS (I love SOS and it deserves to be in Endlessly Relevant, however, I think we need a few more years to see its impact on the music being created), Endless Summer Vacation (the album kind of tanked but Flowers was an iconic moment and it was everywhere! The Bruno Mars sample really drummed up interest in the song, however, this interest did not spill over into the album lol...)
Kind of nothing: Maniac (I think this album will eventually go into the Ageing like milk category because it is not ageing well), Special (I love Lizzo but the only recognisable song on the album is About Damn Time), 30 (there is a reason why it is Adele's shortest charting album - EOM was like the only good song on the album, and it is a rip-off version of 'Hello.')
Ageing like milk: Positions (the production is already very outdated, and it was just not a very well thought out project... sorry, the title track and POV are good songs, however, 34+35 was embarrassing)
Scooter Braun: N/A
You know what you’re so right about Joanne. I tried so hard to like it when it came out and a few songs are alright but this is reminding me that I cannot remember the last time I put that album on lmao and Gaga is my girl. Also your opinion on every album here is ACCURATE. 🎉
ok i randomly started listening to kesha, and cannibal is actually sooooo good. i had an actual obsession with the album when it was released. she was literally churning out hits like crazy, and i think it’s insane how we just forget about artists like her. granted i have not listened to high road, but damn animal/cannibal go HARD. crazy kids, thinking of you, c’mon all off warrior? BANGERS.
10:33 *Sweetener* wasn't exactly coming on the heels of MM's passing, - he passed shortly after the album came out. This event has more to do with the next album.
me needing to go on youtube for something to watch while practicing a guitar song. me seeing this and being ecstatic about the topic and liking it and knowing how good its gonna be before even watching it
YOU ARE LITERALLY THE MOST INTELLIGENT AND THOUGHFUL SWIFTIE I'VE EVER ACROSS!!!1LOVE YOUR VIDEOS SO MUCH
Ooh I was going to be physically productive, but I guess mentally productive will do. *sits down*
buckle in queen !!!
I think Revival should went to Endlessy Relevent
as the album eventually inspired Glory (Britney Spears). It also inspired a Brazilian singer called Manu Gavassi, I think you definitely don't know her, but Revival inspired her third studio album. We see this in the similarity of the covers as well. Other than that commercially it was a very lucrative era and made Selena impeach hits that will probably be known by different people for a long time like: Hands to Myself, Good For You, Same Old Love, Kill 'Em With Kidness. Selena knew very well how to enjoy the 2015 Edm/Dance - Pop songs without sounding dated or disconnected. We also can see that the Revival permeated the influence for some artists like Dua Lipa (on her first album), The Chainsmokers and Ed Sheeran with dance-pop, electronic music with this tropical influence.
i agree the crybaby thing was weird as hell but i’m excited for her new album TOMORROW because she’s ditching the baby aesthetic
OMG SAMEEEEEEEEEE she going through that portal
what are your thought's on it now that it was released?
@@aravindrenmahenthiran6258 well this was a year ago so i was like obsessed with it for a few months but now i literally never listen to to because i streamed it so much lol. It was pretty cool and i like the music but i’m into other stuff now
My main go-to pop girlies in the 2010s were: Beyoncé, Rihanna, Ariana Grande, Fifth Harmony, and Little Mix. I listened to Demi a bit and I didn’t start wanting to listen to TS until the end of the decade. The others I only listened to the hits except for Lana and Melanie Martinez. They’re not my taste so I never listened to them. But here’s my top tier albums by my favorites.
Beyoncé: 4, Lemonade, B’Day
Rihanna: Good Girl Gone Bad, Rated R, Loud
Ariana Grande: My Everything, Dangerous Woman, thank u, next
Fifth Harmony: 7/27
Little Mix: LM5, Confetti, Glory Days
i just love how you're always "if you're rude, you'll be blocked" YES! put your mental health first always king
I think the problem here is naming the second tier "an iconic moment" because some of the low ranking albums are iconic moments at the time.
So make your own video then
I’m kind of curious how you feel about Katy Perry’s Smile (as well as what you see for KP6). You actually inspired me to do a reworking of that album and I personally rank as one of my favorite of her albums
Artpop!!! ❤❤❤ also, your ranking was spot on 👍
I swear I could listen to you talk for like 8 hours straight. I love the longer videos!
I love this analysis so much!! I’d love to see you do this for more decades like 2000s, 90s, or 80s
I would actually love to know your opinion about Tiktok and how it impacted the music industry. I mean I kinda can sense your opinion when you're referencing short attention spans, but other then that how it impacted the production and what kind of music the artists are making is endlessly fascinating for me. Also are you not Florence and the machine fan? Just curious!
I'm often outraged by your opinions, but I then always come back for more. 😂 I guess I enjoy the DRAMA...
this night i literally was thinking about this video idea. it’s very interesting, thank you!
Demi’s HOLY FVCK wasn’t like a commercial or charts success, but that album is amazing and my favorite she’s done. But I know that’s not the 10s decade, just wanted to say that. Also, I really really enjoyed this video! I mostly agree with your rankings honestly. I would agree on most of the albums that were in the bottom two tiers. I just don’t revisit them anymore. I do still have a lot of love for Avril and Kesha though!
I just love you for putting Reputation in the endlessly relevant era
an hour long swiftologist ranking video, the children are being fed!
I'm a big Adele fan, so my opinion is biased:
'25' is iconic!
'When we were young' is almost as good as 'someone like you' 😭
And have you listened to her latest album '30' ? It incorporates like 5 different genres...
Her music isn't boring!
Besides that, I agree with your ranking 😊
I was just about to say this! 30 is so incredibly experimental and it really irritates me when people still say her music is "boring."
Loved this format of video. I tend to like your longer videos because I’m a youtube in the background girlie. Made me want to go back and have another little throwback listen to a few of these
I know it's all just your opinion, but I can't tolerate Madison Beer slander. "Life Support" album and her other singles are pretty coherent and good overall. Calling her an Ariana's copycat is lil bit of a reach.
What you said about Beyoncé put words something I’ve thought but couldn’t articulate….her recorded catalog doesn’t match the charisma of her performances! When I’m watching her sing and dance? I’m gagged. Sometimes on streaming though (even w renaissance…. Beyoncé Stans don’t kill me) she falls flat. I feel like that’s a unique problem that not many artists have today, but I think that an artist who’s better live is a really stellar one since not all girls today can say the same
Same for me. I love Beyonce as a performer, but the catalogue (except for Lemonade) falls flat except some individual songs.
putting 25 on ''kind of nothing'' is crazy it should be much higer but ok🙄
He’s a swiftie he’s braindead
I feel like Ultraviolence by Lana Del Rey is extremely relevant even after a decade of being out. The aesthetic on that album specifically is refurbished all throughout the music industry. It’s okay that Lana will inevitably have many albums in that tier because she is a trailblazer… and that’s okay! 🖤
sorry, but Femme Fatale aged like milk… it is not irrelevant album anymore. almost every song on this album sounds outdated. and when this album came out it in 2011 was never iconic either. this is one of the most forgettable Britney’s album
blackout and circus were iconic
"Teenage Dream" not being in Endlessly Relevant is a crime.
great video and i love how eloquently you speak
i am so in love with melodrama and pure heroine
Rihanna’s red hair era is endlessly relevant - you are just wrong to put it as just being an “iconic moment”.
Waiting on your 2000s, 1990s, 1980s, and (dare I say) 1970s pop girlies videos, queen!
What an endlessly relevant video, thanks for this one Z
I got a ticket to the Eras tour in November and I spent the past 2 weeks avoiding spoilers... thank goodness you made a video unrelated to taylor cause omg this is gonna be tough cause your videos are so great!
the way you gave every album what it deserved (positively or negatively) was very commendable, kudos!
Hey just wanted to inform you that in the past 48 hours, around 10 Lana songs have leaked many of which are from the Ultraviolence era. Specifically check out Pink Champagne (Love you like a Woman demo), Earthquakes, Summertime (Janis Joplin cover), Lake Placid. 🤗 I think you would LOVE LOVE LOVE Dragonslayer which leaked a couple months back, also from UV.
Dragonslayer is fantastic!
Such a fun video! Would love to see your take on pop boybands.. How they came to be, have they aged well, which are the best ones, how do they compare with the pop girlies, etc etc
great vid. very interesting to hear your input on each album. it’s cool to hear you talk about artists you haven’t really talked about before.
I was WAITING for you to do some ranking about female artists in general, one of your most interesting videos😍
I just want to plead on the case of Born This Way being an endlessly relevant album in activism in music.
Prior to Born This Way I dont think we can say that a lot of music at the time was created with the intention to spark activism or directly target a certain political or social cause, even Firework at the time was lauded as a “gay anthem” has to use subtle lyrical hints and music video that address every single issue to make it universal.
But the album changed that in a sense that more music will try to directly deal one topic or one specific ideology that reject the idea of actually needing the music to be “universal”.
I would say that the entire witness era for Katy was a conscious effort to turn Katy into a more mature, Gaga-like activism artist, similar to how You Need To Calm Down was also influenced somehow by Born This Way, and Beyoncé using her albums to address certain social issues, and she finally breaking out from her mould to realise that she doesn’t need to make music that pleases every audience, is also somehow influenced by Born This Way.