Road Map to a US Hydrogen Economy - Northeast Launch - January 27, 2021
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Watch the Northeast launch of the “Road Map to a U.S. Hydrogen Economy” highlighting hydrogen's potential to reduce emissions and drive economic growth.
The findings of the Road Map are detailed by Kimberly Henderson, Partner at McKinsey & Company.
Joined by industry panelists:
○ Air Liquide North America, Karine Boissy-Rousseau, President Hydrogen Energy & Mobility North America
○ Plug Power, Erin Lane
○ Toyota Motor North America, Robert Wimmer, Director Energy & Environmental Research Group
○ Microsoft, Mark Monroe, Datacenter Advanced Development
○ Air Products, Eric Guter, Vice President - Hydrogen Mobility Solutions
○ NEL Hydrogen, Stephen Szymanski, Vice President, Sales and Marketing - Americas
Thanks for sharing the hydrogen economy is essential part of energy transition.
will invest in Plug Power.
Post from Canada:
Could someone answer the following please?
* the comparative energy densities between Fuel cell Hydrogen and Electric Vehicles (Gravimetric to be specific) ?
* the maintenance involved in Fuel Cell Vehicles especially the Fuel Cell and how expensive is it?
* the cost benefits of transporting H2 as Ammonia Vs compressed H2? What would be the energy density we would be compromising with the cost.
* What is stopping us right now from using compressed H2/Fuel Cell in Airplanes? I know there are already long range inspection drones operational.
consider reviewing - H2/Fuel Cell in Airplanes - youtube - Ammonia in future propulsion and the alternatives -
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Buy Energy Fuels UUUU. They will provide the nuclear fuel for the upcoming SMRs that will be placed at old power plant sites (coal, LNG etc). Then all these companies are worth investing in.
Some of the numbers for data centers look seriously specious.
If each of the 1 PB modules uses 17 kW, and there are 135 million of these, that's about 2.3 TERAWATTS. To which I reply: TAKE A DEEP BREATH. First, I very much suspect that 17 kW is a power rating, not an average consumption. He's talking about using all, or nearly all, global electricity in just FOUR YEARS! Well, I don't think so. Also, there surely must be power management techniques to hibernate, or sleep, modules containing rarely used data. It could be brought up in seconds.
A couple more things: You don't have to have a backup for everything online at all times. If you're really concerned about that, you can distribute storage over many sites, dispersed over a wide area. Again, all but a small percentage of that storage is going to be rarely accessed.
You also need to remember that the equipment gets more efficient over time, fast enough that differences are noticeable even with the four years or so that he's got in mind.
The land requirements are also less than he suggests. Why would you put everything in one layer? That's insane! But even with that, you're still talking about 100 square miles or so. (You really should use metric. Come on, this was 2021.)
OTOH there is waste heat, which could theoretically more than double your power requirements in some comical worst case. So use heat pumps, maybe ground source, and/or locate in a really cold climate. I don't think anything is going to hinge on that.
I'm also skeptical about how much hydrogen is going to help with any of this, but that's a whole new topic.
Amazing.
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.hydrogen cars can really ECONOMISE MORE FUEL COST THAN ELECTRIC CARS IF WE MODIFY OUR CURRENT HYDROGEN DISTRIBUTION APPROACH !
The biggest cause of hydrogen cost is that WE TRANSPORT HYDROGEN BY TRUCKS, IT IS EXPENSIVE. Just try to avoid to transport hydrogen by trucks, then hydrogen will be very cheap. It means that NEED TO PRODUCE HYDROGEN ON SITES (WHERE FILLING HYDROGEN), OR TRANSPORT HYDROGEN BY PIPE LINES.
So we need to make 1 or 4modifications :
1/ Distributed hydrogen production on sites : hydrogen filling stations should be equipped with electrolysers, so hydrogen filling stations can produce hydrogen on sites from electricity outlets, instead of just receiving hydrogen from other places. Thus avoid problem cost of transfer hydrogen by trucks. Besides, nets of electrolysing hydrogen filling stations are ideal solution/market for intermittent renewable energy.
It is new worldwide coming hydrogen distribution approach, so it opens markets of mobile small sized electrolysers. Electrolysers are not so expensive for hydrogen filling stations.
2/ Use compressed gas hydrogen batteries with mini household electrolysers/mini mobile electrolysers : small mobility vehicles/mobility machines/mobility robots/mobility drones …, will use hydrogen gas batteries (hydrogen gas battery =hydrogen fuel cell + compressed hydrogen gas ballon 200-300 bar). And each of these mobility machines can be sale with mini home electrolysers, so that owners can produce to fill hydrogen at homes (charge hydrogen batteries at home). Hydrogen ballon 300bar is enough, so that hydrogen battery 300bar(fuel cell +hydrogen ballon 300bar) can guarantee more energy capacity than best lithium batteries, and it guarantees that the size of hydrogen battery 300bar is not remarkable bigger than lithium battery of equivalent energy capacity. Of course 700bar allows more hydrogen storages, liquid hydrogen allows more hydrogen storage. But for hydrogen batteries, gas hydrogen ballons 300 bar are enough for balance of performance-capacity-size-energy convertion ratio-ballon material-simplicity.
Hydrogen batteries 300bar + mini mobile electrolysers are ideal for two-wheel vehicles/small cars/small robots/drones and for trend of hydrogen mobility devices anywhere (easy to operate anywhere and easy to charge anywhere with electricity).
3/ hydrogen batteries for big station energy storage : Independent hydrogen batteries (hydrogen fuel cell + compressed hydrogen ballons > 300bar) + independent electrolyser is best variant. when excess energy, then run independent electrolyser. When need electricity, then run independent fuel cell. And intrigued working mechanism between independent fuel cell and independent electrolyser. That is all ! No complex automatic control system.
4/ hydrogen filling stations need to prefer using hydrogen pipe line than transporting hydrogen by trucks.
5/ The fundamental science dictates essential truth advantages of hydrogen.
Science : if a chemical energy storage mechanism is charged as quick as producing hydrogen, then this mechanism PRACTICALLY CANNOT HAVE ENERGY CONVERTION RATIO BETTER THAN ELECTROLYSIS PROCESS. Besides, it is possible to adjust electrolysis reaction speed to get energy convertion ratio of electrolysis better than any chemical batteries. The best one of all possible chemical batteries in earth conditions is HYDROGEN BATTERY. All revolutions of chemical batteries, lithium batteries, LFP batteries, LTO batteries, graphene batteries .. are for reaching to the features of hydrogen batteries
Good day,
It seems you know pretty good details regarding Hydrogen. Would you be interested to have a chat regarding that? I want to learn a bit about blue and green hydrogen.