These are VERY important omissions!! This is NOT a solitary or simple drop in upgrade as he purports. Great questions and the answers are all over the net for you to peruse. He either isn't well informed about these two issues (shore power converter, or DC-DC charger between battery and alternator) or was too lazy to get into it because it can get a bit detailed in the explanation and maybe a bit tough to relay in layman's terms.
It’s incredible how inexpensive LiFePO4 batteries have become. There is a lot of confusing information though; how it affects your tow vehicle lead acid battery (feedback), will it damage your alternator, charging parameters, cold weather protection, voltage compatibility with roof fans (reports of older Maxxair fans failing due to higher voltage), charger compatibility etc.
Now that was very informative...ty....I just bought a 30a solar panel to charge my 200 battery storage power supply.....I hate when they call them generators......the panel is generating the power to store in the battery storage supply unit....so now I have to do my homework.....I thought it would plug right into the unit to charge it.....this solar is all new to me ...
@smashdaworld5916 thank you. .were not looking to have sun for a while....so I can look for 1.....is it better to get one that can handle more power ....I'm looking into getting some remanufactured 100 watt panels ....they just decided to put a solar farm on top of a land full...
@leonardh8269 I'll assume you will put these panels in series. Connected to each other in one string. Then you will add the voltages of each together. Find the panel with the lowest closed circuit current and size your controller that way. 3 numbers on the contoller the battery voltage the panel voltage and panel current. Get the smallest one that fits your array.
@@smashdaworld5916 like I said I'm learning...I have a 12x12 shed with no electricity....and use rebuilt panels are 30 to 50...but before I jump in to that ..I'm starting small...so I'm looking at regulators now.....
Thanks James, great info! I will soon need to replace my 6v house batteries, would love to go with maintenance free batteries. Have older coach, 98 Fleetwood American Dream. Need to figure out what I need to change. Thanks for sharing!
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER ABOUT USING A CHARGE CONTROLLER "" ALL WAYS PLUG UR CONTROLLER TO UR BATTERY ""FIRST""!!! and then to ur solar panels !😲 NEVER NEVER NEVER FORGET THAT !! ALLWAYS HOOKUP UR BATTERY FIRST , IF U HOOK UP THE SOLAR TO THE CONTROLLER FIRST "DAMAGE" TO UR CONTROLLER , U Would be bringing in power and the Controller has NO WHERE TO SEND IT !! NEVER Forget too Hookup Right 👍👍
Once again, awesome info! Really appreciate your content and clear discussions of the "goes-into" and "goes-out-of's" Looking into upgrading house batteries for our 1994 Coachmen Santara QB280. Sending this link to my brother, the mechanic and electrician, too! Thank you!!
#7....Just like your lipo4 drills, they run until they don't. Continuos 13v until they stop. Lead acids voltage will continually drop in voltage as they deplete below 10.5 volts. Running appliances on low voltage can significantly reduce the life span of them.
a warrenty is only as good as you demand to get it from company. i just got delta to replace a faucet told me car wax damaged the chrome. I got replacemnt thru customer satisfaction, afteri fought them.2nd smoke detector had to jump thru hoops to replace one failed in 3 years should last 10.. Took weeks for smoke detector co2 replacement. so i laready bought one. dont rely on a warenty ..
I like all , BUT Always keep ur Charge Controller in a place the sun / wet weather / blowing dust won't harm it !! A few drops of rain , No more controller ! Sun damage same thing , Wind blows ur panel , that could cause ur Controller to hit a rock ! Its just as easy to put ur Controller INSIDE Where you can see wats going on 👍
Or maybe put that small controller inside the battery box. Looks like it might fit under the lid, close to that disconnect toggle. Nice and clean and self-contained.
@javabean215 first thing u Can't see it , second that Box gets Hot in the Summer , third that box needs to be Redone to help keep the New Battery Warm in the winter . Those new batteries will Shut off if to Hot or Cold ! Im a Full time RVer Every day and ive have learned the Hard way sometimes , allways have ur Controller inside where its high & dry and u can see it Anytime ! If its Bad weather and ur stuck inside , u can see it and know wat ur battery is at ! And as i do , Allways carry a Spare , because they Never go out at the Solar store & it would screw up ur camping trip 🤔
Those are good points, this is a portable array and the stand will be in the shade and shouldn't be left unattended or in the weather so most of those concerns would be the fault of the owner :)
Didn't hear you mention how critical it is that you NOT charge lithium iron-phosphate batteries when they are at or below freezing. Also, many of the on-board AC chargers in older RV's do not charge at a high enough voltage to properly charge an LFP battery.
@@thomasschleis2545 - Are you suggesting most LiFePO4 batteries have low-temperature charging protection? More and more of them do, but many still do not.
@@thomasschleis2545 - You don't understand. There are no LFP batteries with a BMS (circuitry) to protect the battery from being UNDER-CHARGED by a system designed for lead-acid.
Wondering if you could advise me James. I would love 2 of these LiFePo4 batteries for my coach deep cycle. But I think I have 2 issues 1) I live in a climate where it is common to get -10, sometimes -25 for a few weeks in our winters so it looks like these not be able to handle the cold 2) I have a few times needed to boost my chassis battery using the switch located next to my driver seat and I'm not sure if this type of battery can boost a vehicle. Also, I guess a 3rd bonus issue is if my alternator could handle charging these properly or if the built-in charge controller takes care of that.
James, question, I have 6 6v golf cart led acid batteries (Brand new), I don't see this Time USB battery in 6v. What is involved in going form 6, 6v batteries to 3, 12v batteries? Maybe do a video on this?
Hi James, long time subscriber and never miss an episode. You are such an incredible resource to the RV community and greatly appreciated! Have a great, safe, healthy and prosperous New Year!
I have two questions: 1) My travel trailer has a WFCO 8900 power center. Is that power center (converter/ charger) compatible with the LiFePO4 battery, or do I need to upgrade my power center? 2) Is the LiFePO4 battery compatible with my truck's alternator / charging system?
Very important questions you should get the answers to before changing battery chemistries! Don't listen to this video and get the info you need first! LIFePO4 IS NOT a simple drop in upgrade in many situations!
If it’s says AD (auto detect) on the outside casing then it should be able to charge LifePO4 otherwise you can send the unit in for an upgrade - I just bought a cheaper converter that was Lithium compatible.
Note: NOT for use in cold climates - says so on the Timeusb website. I have one, (140Ah) and its BMS will NOT allow charging at 0'C or less, it will provide power down to -20C, but then you can't recharge. If you want a full charge, you will need to replace the lead-acid charger (it will charge it, but not up to full capacity).
Great content!!!! I’m sold. As I live in the northeast what precautions do I need to take for freezing temps? I currently pull my lead acid batts out and store them in my unheated garage on a trickle charger for the winter.
So I have 4 Six volt golf cart batteries (NAPA) in a Century Plastics: Heavy Duty Battery Box. I currently have a Renogy RS232 controller and four 100 watt panels. The question is what battery should I use to replace the 6 volt lead acid batteries? They are probably getting to the point of replacement (2020).
I have a 2006 diesel, upgraded my magnum energy to support li batteries and installed 400ahr of batteries(200a ) Batteries failed when starting generator. over current protection does NOT work with the cheap Chineseium batteries for starting. These are NOT direct replacements if you use a generator. I checked the description for these batteries and they specifically say not for starting
Hi James, I have a quick question that I’m hoping you might have the time to address: I e watched all of your videos and you had one about switching to lithium about 10 months ago. You switched yours to Vatrer. I have a 2007 Holiday Rambler Navigator with 525Cummins. It came with eight, 6v house batteries from the factory and two chassis batteries. I changed it to three chassis batteries and reduced the house bank to four, 6 volt house batteries. We do very little, if any, dry camping each season. It has the factory magnum inverter. I am in the process of replacing the house batteries. My question is: can I swap out my four, 6v lead acid house batteries to two of TimeUSB 12.4V lithium batteries and if so, do I need to do a lot of other modifications? I am in no way, competent with electrical work and it is generally all Greek to me. Thank you for your time and consideration. 👍
I have a 07 tiffin with a xantrex freedom sw will it charge this type of battery with out damaging the inverter or the batteries? What battery type would I select for the charger
You have to make sure your charging sources such as your solar and your converter(charger) are lithium compatible as well or you are not going to get a full charge with the lithium. This is NOT a simple drop in upgrade if your shore power 12v converter isn't lithium compatible. Same with your solar charge controller. It can harm the LiFePO4, and won't charge fully nor with the correct charge profile. A VERY important omission in this video!!!
@@AZExpert sorry. I started typing that before the solar part. It was going in the background, but I wasn't paying attention. Many won't have new rigs with auto-switching converters or even compatible ones for that matter. So simply saying it's a "drop in" upgrade without anything else to spend on any other part of the electrical system (or however you put it) is quite misleading for some. I do really like your content. Just found this one a bit of a fail for your audience. ✌️
@@ryanhoover5951 I think even still, they are drop in and modern chargers post-2002 will charge them fine just not fully modern lifepo4 are not the lithium batteries of 4-5 years ago or home built contraptions that are voltage snobs
I have done quite a few victron based LiFePO4 and solar installs. I know this battery chemistry very well. You're simply wrong. Why possibly damage your new investment? To not have the right charging profile is one thing, but to short yourself on the capacity you've paid the upgrade cost on already is asinine. And the chemistry is the chemistry regardless of whether or not it's cobbled together or pre-built. LiFePO4 needs charging in a very narrow voltage range and at the right time (correct charging profile) than incompatible charge sources can provide. Period. Incorrect charging can fault the lead acid based charger of the battery's BMS and cause the usable capacity to end up being only -80%. Stupid to not have the right charger. I'm quite versed in this particular tech.✌️
@@AZExpert another as of yet untouched topic pertaining to this is the possibility of overloading an alternator if it is used for charging a house battery from an engine. A well discharged LiFePO4 battery can demand a very large amperage from an alternator versus lead-acid battery, and for a sustained amount of time. As you mention with these cheap branded ones, even they can draw up to 100amps when charging. Mine can draw 200amps. This will of course be limited by the gauge of the wiring in the circuit, but as you likely know, the end result here is heat in the circuit. Damage to the wiring (Fire, fuse blown) or damage to the alternator is very very possible. A dedicated DC-DC charger for lithium which will limit this amp draw is also very warranted in a motorhome application. Seems to me that you very much phoned this (likely sponsored) video in, without doing any research as to this specific battery chemistry.
I bought a lithium charger for about $100 and plug it into a 110 outlet while I am hooked to shore power. This charges at the proper rate and allows the vatrer 460 AH lithium cells to balance. I also have a dc to dc charger while engine is running that charges going down the road. 2019 Tiffin Phaeton with non lithium Magnum inverter.
very wrong. LiFePO4 tops out at over 14v for full charge. You shouldn't be spouting off about things you don't know enough about. The more I read these comments the more I see how badly you've misinformed your audience. Be better.
James Redo ur Video , u Never hookup ur solar to ur charger Controller first !! U Allways hookup ur Controller to ur Battery FIRST , Damage Will happen to ur controller if u hookup Solar first !
@dwightsmith5174 well dude when the man is telling others how to Fry there Charge Controller , u got to set it Right !! If a person Don't know WTF there talking about , call them out on it thats how i was raised .
The Lead acid battery you showed is not a true deep-cycle battery. It is a hybrid deep cycle/starting battery. Completely inferior to a true deep-cycle battery.
Yeah but if you don't never use those things except once in a while you got to keep them on the charger And who's going to do that with the chargers they got out there now burning houses down
First upgrade to any van, motor home, camper, BOAT….. You can keep the lead acid battery….. just go with the largest Amp Hour capacity AGM or lithium battery you can find. Just know! Lithium batteries are incredibly unstable! Over-discharging a lithium ion battery once, decreases the total capacity by 20%. Cheap lithium batteries are prone to lithium clusters which will cause the battery self destruction. They are also prone to fire. Be smart! Do your research. Don’t listen to some bozo on TH-cam. NOT all lead acid batteries need to be vented!
Don't forget you'll need a converter that is lithium compatible otherwise it's not going to charge the battery fully.
Can damage the battery as well if it has any kind of auto desulphation mode which could spike the battery with over 15v. Very bad for LiFePO4!!!!
i have a time usb battery in my RV that I bought 3 years ago with zero problems and it runs my 12v rv refrigerator 4 days
What changes to the onboard charger or alternator on tow vehicle need to be made
These are VERY important omissions!! This is NOT a solitary or simple drop in upgrade as he purports. Great questions and the answers are all over the net for you to peruse. He either isn't well informed about these two issues (shore power converter, or DC-DC charger between battery and alternator) or was too lazy to get into it because it can get a bit detailed in the explanation and maybe a bit tough to relay in layman's terms.
Don' be a jive turkey !
I agree. I was death to lead-acid batteries and never could get a night of furnace off them after a year old - even with sealed ones.
I don't know about this lithium battery craze. Look what it did to your mustache. Chicka wah wah😊
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😂😆😆😱🤣🤣🤣
It’s incredible how inexpensive LiFePO4 batteries have become. There is a lot of confusing information though; how it affects your tow vehicle lead acid battery (feedback), will it damage your alternator, charging parameters, cold weather protection, voltage compatibility with roof fans (reports of older Maxxair fans failing due to higher voltage), charger compatibility etc.
yup.
Now that was very informative...ty....I just bought a 30a solar panel to charge my 200 battery storage power supply.....I hate when they call them generators......the panel is generating the power to store in the battery storage supply unit....so now I have to do my homework.....I thought it would plug right into the unit to charge it.....this solar is all new to me ...
You will need a solar charge controller,
also the open circuit voltage of your panel(s) will need to be higher then your battery
@smashdaworld5916 thank you. .were not looking to have sun for a while....so I can look for 1.....is it better to get one that can handle more power ....I'm looking into getting some remanufactured 100 watt panels ....they just decided to put a solar farm on top of a land full...
@leonardh8269 I'll assume you will put these panels in series. Connected to each other in one string. Then you will add the voltages of each together. Find the panel with the lowest closed circuit current and size your controller that way. 3 numbers on the contoller the battery voltage the panel voltage and panel current. Get the smallest one that fits your array.
@@smashdaworld5916 like I said I'm learning...I have a 12x12 shed with no electricity....and use rebuilt panels are 30 to 50...but before I jump in to that ..I'm starting small...so I'm looking at regulators now.....
A GOOD and INFORMATIVE video. NB: I wonder how many people do, accidentally, drill into the solar panels! Oops! 8:59 😮 Thank you, James! 🙂
Thanks James, great info! I will soon need to replace my 6v house batteries, would love to go with maintenance free batteries. Have older coach, 98 Fleetwood American Dream. Need to figure out what I need to change. Thanks for sharing!
Simple and to the point! Classic James video! Thanks for all your good info and vibes James!
There are rv magizines i had them delivered to me when a friend used my address for a few years. Had great info i read them for fun..
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER ABOUT USING A CHARGE CONTROLLER "" ALL WAYS PLUG UR CONTROLLER TO UR BATTERY ""FIRST""!!! and then to ur solar panels !😲 NEVER NEVER NEVER FORGET THAT !! ALLWAYS HOOKUP UR BATTERY FIRST , IF U HOOK UP THE SOLAR TO THE CONTROLLER FIRST "DAMAGE" TO UR CONTROLLER , U Would be bringing in power and the Controller has NO WHERE TO SEND IT !! NEVER Forget too Hookup Right 👍👍
Too LOUD!
@kcgunesq loud is better than Stupid kc
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Once again, awesome info! Really appreciate your content and clear discussions of the "goes-into" and "goes-out-of's" Looking into upgrading house batteries for our 1994 Coachmen Santara QB280. Sending this link to my brother, the mechanic and electrician, too! Thank you!!
#7....Just like your lipo4 drills, they run until they don't. Continuos 13v until they stop. Lead acids voltage will continually drop in voltage as they deplete below 10.5 volts. Running appliances on low voltage can significantly reduce the life span of them.
To quote the immortal Peter Griffin......"Moustache'
Thanks James for another informative video. Happy New Year Take a road trip and Have Fun, Stay Safe and Keep Making Memories
Missed you riding the dog at the end. Good informative video.
James! You got something on your upper li.....
Wait, never mind.
Lookin' good, Sir! 😜
a warrenty is only as good as you demand to get it from company. i just got delta to replace a faucet told me car wax damaged the chrome. I got replacemnt thru customer satisfaction, afteri fought them.2nd smoke detector had to jump thru hoops to replace one failed in 3 years should last 10.. Took weeks for smoke detector co2 replacement. so i laready bought one. dont rely on a warenty ..
I wanted to make a camper out of a Coffin , but I thought people might think I'm weird .
Did you use some kind of filter on the camera?
Nice job.
I am currently running Lithium ion batteries with 560 AMP hours. 400 watts of solar panel. Oh and I love stickers.....😉
I like all , BUT Always keep ur Charge Controller in a place the sun / wet weather / blowing dust won't harm it !! A few drops of rain , No more controller ! Sun damage same thing , Wind blows ur panel , that could cause ur Controller to hit a rock ! Its just as easy to put ur Controller INSIDE Where you can see wats going on 👍
Or maybe put that small controller inside the battery box. Looks like it might fit under the lid, close to that disconnect toggle. Nice and clean and self-contained.
@javabean215 first thing u Can't see it , second that Box gets Hot in the Summer , third that box needs to be Redone to help keep the New Battery Warm in the winter . Those new batteries will Shut off if to Hot or Cold ! Im a Full time RVer Every day and ive have learned the Hard way sometimes , allways have ur Controller inside where its high & dry and u can see it Anytime ! If its Bad weather and ur stuck inside , u can see it and know wat ur battery is at ! And as i do , Allways carry a Spare , because they Never go out at the Solar store & it would screw up ur camping trip 🤔
@javabean215 Remember they put Gauges in a car so u can see them and u know wats going on !
@javabean215 that would be like hidding the gas gauge where u couldn't see it
Those are good points, this is a portable array and the stand will be in the shade and shouldn't be left unattended or in the weather so most of those concerns would be the fault of the owner :)
Didn't hear you mention how critical it is that you NOT charge lithium iron-phosphate batteries when they are at or below freezing. Also, many of the on-board AC chargers in older RV's do not charge at a high enough voltage to properly charge an LFP battery.
Most Li-iron batts have circuitry to prevent this.
@@thomasschleis2545 - Are you suggesting most LiFePO4 batteries have low-temperature charging protection? More and more of them do, but many still do not.
@@jasonbroom7147 Just have to check.
I was told that the on board charger in my 2019 rockwood rv would not bring a lithium battery to 12.8 volts.
@@thomasschleis2545 - You don't understand. There are no LFP batteries with a BMS (circuitry) to protect the battery from being UNDER-CHARGED by a system designed for lead-acid.
Very well done. Enjoyed every minute!!!
Wondering if you could advise me James. I would love 2 of these LiFePo4 batteries for my coach deep cycle. But I think I have 2 issues
1) I live in a climate where it is common to get -10, sometimes -25 for a few weeks in our winters so it looks like these not be able to handle the cold
2) I have a few times needed to boost my chassis battery using the switch located next to my driver seat and I'm not sure if this type of battery can boost a vehicle.
Also, I guess a 3rd bonus issue is if my alternator could handle charging these properly or if the built-in charge controller takes care of that.
James, question, I have 6 6v golf cart led acid batteries (Brand new), I don't see this Time USB battery in 6v. What is involved in going form 6, 6v batteries to 3, 12v batteries? Maybe do a video on this?
Hi James, long time subscriber and never miss an episode. You are such an incredible resource to the RV community and greatly appreciated! Have a great, safe, healthy and prosperous New Year!
I have two questions: 1) My travel trailer has a WFCO 8900 power center. Is that power center (converter/ charger) compatible with the LiFePO4 battery, or do I need to upgrade my power center? 2) Is the LiFePO4 battery compatible with my truck's alternator / charging system?
Very important questions you should get the answers to before changing battery chemistries! Don't listen to this video and get the info you need first! LIFePO4 IS NOT a simple drop in upgrade in many situations!
If it’s says AD (auto detect) on the outside casing then it should be able to charge LifePO4 otherwise you can send the unit in for an upgrade - I just bought a cheaper converter that was Lithium compatible.
Nice stash Jim. Do you need to put the batteries in a thermal blanket for winter use. Great video.
Note: NOT for use in cold climates - says so on the Timeusb website. I have one, (140Ah) and its BMS will NOT allow charging at 0'C or less, it will provide power down to -20C, but then you can't recharge. If you want a full charge, you will need to replace the lead-acid charger (it will charge it, but not up to full capacity).
Thanks for the clarification!
Great content!!!! I’m sold. As I live in the northeast what precautions do I need to take for freezing temps? I currently pull my lead acid batts out and store them in my unheated garage on a trickle charger for the winter.
Not sure, but if you replace with these batteries, don't you have to change the charger to work with lithium ion batteries
Nice video
what is his lowest temperature operation .. ?? Lipo4fe's can't be charged below freezing at rated charge rate..
Converter change? Add a DC to DC charger in a towable?
👍 The stache threw me off, 70's retro looking. Try full goatee style.
So I have 4 Six volt golf cart batteries (NAPA) in a Century Plastics: Heavy Duty Battery Box. I currently have a Renogy RS232 controller and four 100 watt panels.
The question is what battery should I use to replace the 6 volt lead acid batteries? They are probably getting to the point of replacement (2020).
4 wattcycle with Bluetooth, 210.00 each free shipping
I have 4 6 volt batteries for my coach. Do you suggest getting two 12 volts? My 6 volts are in parallel connection.
Can I use that lithium battery in my jeep as a starter battery?
Why the h/ll do you want to do that for...? Stay with lead acid or maintenance free lead/Gel!
James, would my stock Xantrex 458 be able to handle the LiOn changeover. 2004 Tiffin Allegro Bus.
whats with the caterpillar..
I have a 2006 diesel, upgraded my magnum energy to support li batteries and installed 400ahr of batteries(200a ) Batteries failed when starting generator. over current protection does NOT work with the cheap Chineseium batteries for starting. These are NOT direct replacements if you use a generator. I checked the description for these batteries and they specifically say not for starting
great point!
Need to do some research on using these on my boat maybe…
Be careful people if you have a motorhome. They are not direct drop ins.
Yup yup. He omitted very important info. He doesn't know, or was negligent by not researching. Hope people don't harm their rigs because of it.....
Hi James, I have a quick question that I’m hoping you might have the time to address: I e watched all of your videos and you had one about switching to lithium about 10 months ago. You switched yours to Vatrer. I have a 2007 Holiday Rambler Navigator with 525Cummins. It came with eight, 6v house batteries from the factory and two chassis batteries. I changed it to three chassis batteries and reduced the house bank to four, 6 volt house batteries. We do very little, if any, dry camping each season. It has the factory magnum inverter. I am in the process of replacing the house batteries. My question is: can I swap out my four, 6v lead acid house batteries to two of TimeUSB 12.4V lithium batteries and if so, do I need to do a lot of other modifications? I am in no way, competent with electrical work and it is generally all Greek to me. Thank you for your time and consideration. 👍
I have a 07 tiffin with a xantrex freedom sw will it charge this type of battery with out damaging the inverter or the batteries? What battery type would I select for the charger
You have to make sure your charging sources such as your solar and your converter(charger) are lithium compatible as well or you are not going to get a full charge with the lithium. This is NOT a simple drop in upgrade if your shore power 12v converter isn't lithium compatible. Same with your solar charge controller. It can harm the LiFePO4, and won't charge fully nor with the correct charge profile. A VERY important omission in this video!!!
I did show the solar charger set for lithium in the video.
@@AZExpert sorry. I started typing that before the solar part. It was going in the background, but I wasn't paying attention. Many won't have new rigs with auto-switching converters or even compatible ones for that matter. So simply saying it's a "drop in" upgrade without anything else to spend on any other part of the electrical system (or however you put it) is quite misleading for some. I do really like your content. Just found this one a bit of a fail for your audience. ✌️
@@ryanhoover5951 I think even still, they are drop in and modern chargers post-2002 will charge them fine just not fully modern lifepo4 are not the lithium batteries of 4-5 years ago or home built contraptions that are voltage snobs
I have done quite a few victron based LiFePO4 and solar installs. I know this battery chemistry very well. You're simply wrong. Why possibly damage your new investment? To not have the right charging profile is one thing, but to short yourself on the capacity you've paid the upgrade cost on already is asinine. And the chemistry is the chemistry regardless of whether or not it's cobbled together or pre-built. LiFePO4 needs charging in a very narrow voltage range and at the right time (correct charging profile) than incompatible charge sources can provide. Period. Incorrect charging can fault the lead acid based charger of the battery's BMS and cause the usable capacity to end up being only -80%. Stupid to not have the right charger. I'm quite versed in this particular tech.✌️
@@AZExpert another as of yet untouched topic pertaining to this is the possibility of overloading an alternator if it is used for charging a house battery from an engine. A well discharged LiFePO4 battery can demand a very large amperage from an alternator versus lead-acid battery, and for a sustained amount of time. As you mention with these cheap branded ones, even they can draw up to 100amps when charging. Mine can draw 200amps. This will of course be limited by the gauge of the wiring in the circuit, but as you likely know, the end result here is heat in the circuit. Damage to the wiring (Fire, fuse blown) or damage to the alternator is very very possible. A dedicated DC-DC charger for lithium which will limit this amp draw is also very warranted in a motorhome application. Seems to me that you very much phoned this (likely sponsored) video in, without doing any research as to this specific battery chemistry.
Great video. Not crazy about the resolution and miss the dog outro.
So no need for inverter upgrades? 2009 Monaco Camelot 42pdq
I bought a lithium charger for about $100 and plug it into a 110 outlet while I am hooked to shore power. This charges at the proper rate and allows the vatrer 460 AH lithium cells to balance. I also have a dc to dc charger while engine is running that charges going down the road. 2019 Tiffin Phaeton with non lithium Magnum inverter.
@ thanks for info
Read the battery description, you will damage batteries and void the battery warrantee if you use the gen set. (Happened to me.)
@ thanks for input. Already decided not to change
You don't need a Lithium compatable charger for that?
It needs to be compatible if you wanted to work right and be able to charge the battery fully.
@@mr.monitor. I thought so. Thanks!
Wish I could afford the upgrade. All 4 house batteries beyond dead.
Great video information. I guessing since the battery only need 12.8 volts, no need to change the converter. Thanks Don
That is correct
very wrong. LiFePO4 tops out at over 14v for full charge. You shouldn't be spouting off about things you don't know enough about. The more I read these comments the more I see how badly you've misinformed your audience. Be better.
Hey someone sporting a stash!
Thought that myself
Next episode “Sideburns”
Then The Spanish Tickler episode 1 Season 1.
Ep2, Who got tickled.
EP3, Shave that thing off.
Remember Zamp reverse polarity. They make adapters for correct hookup to other brands.
You cant charge lithium when it's below freezing
now this is cool
Hi James, I would like to hire you for some work. How do I contact you by phone?
Nice mustache.... add some side burns and the look is completed. 😅 please do it I'm all about lithium. Iv got battleborn for 1300 ah. O yeah
James Redo ur Video , u Never hookup ur solar to ur charger Controller first !! U Allways hookup ur Controller to ur Battery FIRST , Damage Will happen to ur controller if u hookup Solar first !
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@dwightsmith5174 well dude when the man is telling others how to Fry there Charge Controller , u got to set it Right !! If a person Don't know WTF there talking about , call them out on it thats how i was raised .
The Lead acid battery you showed is not a true deep-cycle battery. It is a hybrid deep cycle/starting battery. Completely inferior to a true deep-cycle battery.
Yep!
Sorry James, no lithium batteries for me. The fire potential is just too high.
No fire hazard at all with the LiFePO4 he is talking about. Actually safer than Lead-Acid.
@@davidl1338the for mentioning. Lithium Ion bad, Lithium Iron good
Yeah but if you don't never use those things except once in a while you got to keep them on the charger
And who's going to do that with the chargers they got out there now burning houses down
Is that a caterpillar or……….😅
Mustache time
First upgrade to any van, motor home, camper, BOAT…..
You can keep the lead acid battery….. just go with the largest Amp Hour capacity AGM or lithium battery you can find.
Just know! Lithium batteries are incredibly unstable! Over-discharging a lithium ion battery once, decreases the total capacity by 20%. Cheap lithium batteries are prone to lithium clusters which will cause the battery self destruction.
They are also prone to fire.
Be smart!
Do your research.
Don’t listen to some bozo on TH-cam.
NOT all lead acid batteries need to be vented!
The lithium doesn't make the type of fire I would wanna roast my marshmallows on.🏕🔥