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The only one I dislike is Lagoona which is sad because I use to love her. Now, with her new design I feel like shes not even the same person. They could have just updated her old look and make this new design a cousin of hers or something. Just, eughhhh the pink skin makes me think she's fleshy like a dolphin rather then scaley like the beast from the black lagoon.
Fun fact: Frankie no longer has their green skin or neck bolts due to copyright issues! (Long story short, G1 and 2 were Universal Collabs while G3 isn’t, and they own the rights to the iconic Frankenstein design!)
Also, the choice to make Abbey Bominable actually from the Himalayas (which stretches over India, Pakistan, Nepal, Bhutan and China), where the Abominable Snowman legend really comes from, instead of the original Russian/Eastern European accent which wasn't even faithful to where the legend originated, was so nice. Her mom in the series is actually wearing a sari-like style made of icicles and snow, and it makes my heart melt!! Yes to letting traditional styles get to be monster-fied in a respectful way too!!
Amazing! Just how you highlighted diversity of one group of people and then erased it with a different one. You know that Eastern Europe is not a one country and definitely not russia? What is wrong with you? People there talk different languages and have different accents. Go educate yourself
@@ravenglebsky9404 if she is from the Himalayas, she shouldn't have had a vaguely Eastern European accent, that is just ignorance on Mattel's part since we got no indication of her background that would make sense for her to have that unspecified accent. seems ignorant to ignore the point of that comment, which is saying Mattel is now placing her background with ethnicities that accurately align with her place of origin instead of being like 'have a ice girl ooo unspecified vaguely Eastern European accent ooo but she is from the Himalayas we got all this information from Western fearmongering on immigrants oo'
@@ravenglebsky9404 please go ahead and watch the original animated series and tell me what accent she's got other than the studio-vague "Eastern Europe or whatever" heavily Russian-esque accent. They're not generalising Eastern Europe, they're being accurate to how the studio made her. They didn't pick a specific accent, they just went "eh its all the same"
@@ravenglebsky9404 mattel didn't CHOOSE one accent. thats what im saying. they generalized it and didnt specify. people say its kind of russian but not quite. abbey is from the himalayas so shouldnt be russian anyway.
I like Abby’s doll design but I’m not a fan of her in her show design. I think she looks too soft in her show design. She could have been a great example for a more muscular body type in women.
Body diversity doesn’t begin and end with straight size vs plus size. I think it would be cool for the dolls to have varied muscularity, chest/hip sizes, etc. but also there’s the issue of mixing and matching different characters’ clothing that could be disrupted if you make their bodies too varied
THISS! Frankie being taller is nice to see! clawdeen having a thin body is nice, draculara having a pear shaped body is nice, and people keep mistaking Cleo as “plus size” or “curvy” but she’s more of an hourglass shape! and now abbey has a similar body sculpt as draculara but she’s taller than everyone else! I am hoping for Iris’s body to actually be plus size since we are seeing more of her and even in the youtube series which are doll accurate!
I get wym with the lack of mix and matching if this becomes a thing, but i think that may already be starting? Abbey's noticably taller and wider with broad shoulders, I wonder how much she can fit without stressing the seams. Either way, it'd be cool to get a genuine +size doll with Iris :)
you might've made this video before this was released but i noticed you didn't mention the fact that g3 twyla is now autistic!! :) and it isn't just implied either, she full on says "i am autistic" in her introductory episode which i absolutely loved. throughout the episode she shows sensory sensitivity, fidgeting, stimming etc. as an autistic person, i honestly love this take on twyla. it doesn't feel forced or that being autistic is her only character trait at all which is very refreshing. also the other characters respect her boundaries and understand her which will honestly really help non-autistic kids to do the same. and the fact they explicitly had her say she's autistic is great, i'm tired of the word autistic or autism being used as an insult or a bad word. also they did it during autism awareness month, neat! :)
Yeah, as an autistic doll artist and collector I was a little sad that Izzzy didn't mention it. I was so happy when she was released and even voiced by an autistic voice actor is amazing! And as a nonbinary fem presenting person myself I love how they have made g3 frankie nonbinary too!
I love this man twyla was always a favorite of mine so her being positive autistic rep in g3 is such a fun way to add representation to a show that's been going on for 13 years now!! I adore her even more now lol
They actually had the character say "I'm Autistic" _out loud?!_ I absolutely need to give this show a try now! Even Dead End: Paranormal Park hasn't had their Autistic character who is literally based on the creator's experiences as an Autistic person say the word out loud. This is awesome!
@@lalas181 I've only seen a few episodes but tbh the show is pretty good imo :) Its very cute but you need to go in with the fact its for children in mind because it is pretty obvious, but even then I think its still pretty fun if you're invested in the characters :)
i think you're blinded by nostalgia- original monster high was majorly just alternative fashion-- elissabat was probably the only closest thing to "gothic fashion". i love gen 1, but the majority of it was not goth.
36:55 I think there’s a larger issue with Lagoona no longer being Australian than just ‘people want the old Lagoona back’- in some of the 3d movies and parts of the show, Lagoona was implied to be representation for Aboriginal Australians, with her love interest, Gills parents not wanting to accept her because she’s a ‘Salt Water’ (or Fresh Water, I don’t remember which) sea monster instead of the more ‘common’ opposite and thus is viewed as lesser. Very basic but still similar to how Aboriginal people in Australia are treated as lesser today. Some people also argue that her curly hair is reminiscent of Aboriginal hair but obviously I’m not expert on that. Representation for Indigenous Australian people is next to absolutely zero in media, let alone in Australia itself. So to me at least it IS quite disappointing to see Lagoona no longer be Aussie. Obviously the original rep wasn’t the best and was very watered down (no pun intended) but I wish they could’ve done a better job on it with the remake instead
This is a headcanon though, there's not much besides hair texture in lagoonas design that alludes to her being actually aboriginal. In fact I'd assume they based her on a typical white Australian girl. So I don't think it's horrible that they'd make her an ACTUAL person of colour. Like I'm upset they didn't just make her actually aboriginal but at least she's non ambiguously poc now
Genuinely, although lagoona wasnt the best australian representation, as an australian kid i thought it was so cool that there was a monster that was like me and i grew up it just meant more and more to me. Really miss the old lagoona. Also i miss her being blue and having webbed hands bro whyd that change
It would be great if she was indigenous Australian. But she looks more like a white blonde Australian. Though lots of indigenous people do look white because indigenous genes are recessive.
@@altalt479yeah but like, the entirety of this reboot is about changing the characters. Lagoona’s Latina in g3, which I don’t mind, but also speaking as an Australian I agree it would’ve been amazing if they could’ve gone further with her original character and made her aboriginal. The story between her and gill in the web series wasn’t able to get much light because the episodes were so short and didn’t really focus on specific plots for a long time (unless you count Cleo’s cheerleading episodes) but I love the idea of them being a mixed race couple because they come from different waters, that’s so cool. Don’t get me wrong, from what I’ve seen of the show I love everything about it. But I think it’s absolutely a missed opportunity. Would’ve been nice to have an aboriginal actor voice her if they were able to do that as well
I think it’s quite upsetting to see a lot of the African American features taken away from Clawdeen, and I was wondering if it was going to be brought up. The lighter and less textured hair is a killer. Additionally, it was played off as a joke in the video, but I am also saddened that Lagoona is no longer Australian. I understand it is important for Latina representation, but there was an amazing opportunity for Lagoona to be an Aboriginal Australian woman. Australian culture is something I’ve never seen explored in a doll line or nearly any pop media before, and there are many stories and cultural myths that could have been explored for her. Growing up as an Australian, I was so surprised and happy to see an Australian doll… I couldn’t imagine how great it could have been for her to be Aboriginal as well, as it’s a part of Australia in media that is always ignored
I agree with the sentiments and agree that Aboriginal and Torres Strait stories should be showcased in MH. But there’s been rampant cases of fanon going wild and it’s actually a blessing that Lagoona wasn’t aboriginal.
It would be dope as hell if they created an Aboriginal Australian character inspired by an indigenous mythological creature like the bunyip (which funnily enough is also a water-based creature like Lagoona!)
i think my only real gripe is i wish they embraced the edge, as mentioned in the video, more they were gothy and weird and it’s what made me fall in love with them. the aesthetic is what drew me in. i feel like if they keep to their palettes, maybe tone them to the darker colour, i feel like it will be great. i wish they did have the extreme heels personally because i love that bizarre extreme. otherwise, the other steps are in such a great direction. i feel like the spirit of the g1s is almost there but not fully embraced just yet
We are in the times when everyone wants big booba goth gf and everyone embraces being unique with such a wide variety of goth subcultures. I would personaly appreciate if there was another character like robecca but more into cybergoth vibe too! I think that would look cool, addint the contrast of neon colours with black. Also goth subculture itself has such a wide variety to chose from. Not to forget emo, punk, alt, metalhead fashion. Nowadays its more common than ever and id appreciate some characters to be bit more into that spectrum. Personaly its what i loved on gen 1 clawdeen. With the strap boots, earrings and leather jacket, she would be the coolest, especially considering her personality. She would be gorgeous as a more punk character. The only one sticking to that is draculaura which is bit of a shame, although i very very much appeciate her pointy bangs. Saw that on so many goth girls and always loved this hairstyle dearly. Personaly i really hate Lagoona and Ghoulia in gen 3, but thats just my personal take i assume. Toralei is fine. Only gripe i have with frankie is the shirt, but other than that this gen is better than what i expected. The art for Abbey terrified me and i hated it, but the doll loos actually great.
I agree. I have never liked neon, and holographic clothing has always been a 50/50 for me so the new fashion choices really really bother me. I understand that this show is made for preteens, but the fashion doesn't make sense to me. G1 was also made for preteens, but the characters themselves were meant to be highschoolers and wore what was trending among teens. That has been completely thrown out the window with G3. None of what they wear is trending among teens. Not even a little bit. The whole show just seems to be more in line with late elementary/middle school and I wish they had just committed to that. If they had just changed the setting and canon ages to middle school, it would all make sense.
I feel like they could maybe try different type of fashions. Not just gothic or alt but i would love to see just different type of asthetics. J fashion as unique styles but while i know they might not go as hard with this. It would be fun to make them go with a lolita fashion style, fairykei or decorakei. I know why they may not do it but having outfits inspired by those styles could be fun. I would love to see it.
The discourse around Lagoona no longer being Australian is a bit deeper than simply "I liked her as Australian." Because of the freshwater vs saltwater debacle in Lagoona and Gill's relationship in G1, some people interpreted Lagoona as being aboriginal-coded and the freshwater/seawater storyline as representing racism. Plus there was the line in her G3 song describing herself as "spicy," which a lot of latinos have pointed out is a stereotype. Hopefully as G3 progresses, the writers will be more careful to avoid those sorts of things, and maybe a new aboriginal character can be added to the cast!
@@crushcan5157 I was just adding context to what the Twitter people said, other than describing a Latina character as "spicy" I don't have any problems with the new Lagoona.
@@richiepilled I get the context and I definitely think the spicy thing is real but everyone saying she’s aboriginal coded is such a far reach over the salt water to fresh water discrimination people are acting like they removed her identity or something when monster high gen 1 was too scared to even make clawdeen a lesbian I highly doubt they cared or even thought about aboriginals
I stand by thinking how the dolls should have all been based off of different fasion styles/aesthetics. Alternative fashion has so many sub genres, and making dolls based off of these would be really cool! G3 do have different looks but I kind of wish they had gone full out with it, exploring some more fashion movements and cultures in their outfits! I would have loved that soo much!
My biggest, BIGGEST problem with Gen 3 is that Ghoulia used to be really good representation for disabled/mute/selectively mute people. I mean OK, some people might not like having a literal monster represent their disability, but the entire franchise is monster, so you might as well represent disabilities (like Frankie's limbs!). Saying this as a very disabled person, btw. When my illnesses flare up, I become partially mute and clumsy myself, so I related to Ghoulia. She's really lost that uniqueness to her. Update: OK so she spoke another language but she still understood English perfectly and went to school in English? I feel like not being able to speak English despite understanding and writing in it fully sounds like a case of either selective mutism or literally because she physically could only speak zombie, which is still a mutism related disability.
And despite being mute she was never portrayed as stupid, the opposite actually, she was super smart. She was never the butt of the joke or bullied for being mute so it was definitely a positive representation. I only go mute when I'm very stressed so I can't fully relate but I still really liked her, I did see a lot of myself in her :(
Yeah, agree. I just can’t get behind new Ghoulia as is. Looks and personality aren’t vibing with me yet. Like, I really hope they *flesh* out her character more. Hehe.
Ghoulia was never meant to be representation for the mute/selectively mute however. She spoke all the time, but spoke in Zombie, another language. Cleo spoke Zombie and actively talked with Ghoulia. She was never mute or selectively mute. The G3 Ghoulia is actually disability rep, and states that Zombies are said to be "slow" and struggle to move as fast as other monsters mentally and physically, but Ghoulia is determined to put this stereotype to rest and uses a skateboard to move around at the same speed as other monsters, and studies to ace her classes as well as join a lot of clubs. She is representation for mobility issues, developmental delays, and processing disorders now, and it's so important to recognize that she is actual rep now. (I am autistic and go nonverbal as well as have processing disorders)
A few things about the Twyla doll: I got her recently and her hands arent NEARLY that dark. The prototype doll must have had different hands, because they are much less jarring in real life. Also she has 2 really cute details: on her shoes there are windows with little curtains and on the bottoms there is an image of her and her bunny. And on her ears theyre are tiny molded spiderwebs (shes actually one of my favorites😊)
@@chattycatty3336 ah me too!! her eyes are so cool. i love that i can pose her stimming with her bracelet or enjoying her tea or book... she's so fun to pose and bring around with you.
@@feykingjulian totally agree! I even painted her accessories so its even more fun (honestly one of my favorite things to do. Ive painted frankies to ☺)
My biggest issues have to be Toralei and Clawdeen. I absolutely adore Toralei and seeing her being robbed of her cute bob bothers me so much. Her receiving longer hair is just as upsetting to me as Mattel taking away Howleens super edgy and cool curly mohawk (as already mentioned), as short haired dolls are just super rare! Her bob was absolutely iconic and for some reason ONLY her doll as long hair while her hair is short in the show????? Like I get long hair is better suited for playline dolls but it's not like there aren't 109 different dolls with long hair to choose from instead. Clawdeen is an entire different issue, which has been discussed to death already. I fully understand every aspect of the dissatisfaction. Another huge issue is the distribution of the dolls. I live in Europe, Germany to be exact and the dolls have not been seen anywhere in stores and even online they're not available. It's frustrating to see the US get Target exclusive releases and all the dolls while most of the globe has no easy way of even ordering them.
Monster high was made in America so of course it's going to get US Target exclusive releases before other countries they do the exact same with their stuff in different countries and America has to wait so get over it.
they gave her longer hair in the doll form because it would sell better since kids can brush and style it, since the core dolls will always be in store I think they'll start making short hair dolls of her soon, they want to play it safe I guess :')
@@paula.cosplaythe usa is on the verge of a recession(or in a recession depending on who is asked) so they can't afford to take risks. Og monster high came out when people had more ability to spend money so expiration was more profitable.
Rebecca steam was my fav from G1. I haven’t seen any mention of her in G3 but I am scared of how they’re going to redesign her. As a kid I loved her steampunk emo vibe and her hair was always my favorite.
Robecca was my favourite too! I was super into steampunk as a kid and I instantly fell in love with her when I saw the doll. I could never get my hands on one however (they were pretty expensive and I was entering the age of "dolls are for little kids"). Edit: I hope they release her for G3, and I hope it's good... kinda scared as well.
the problem with lagoona isn’t that she’s not australian anymore- it’s that her heavily implied aboriginal / polynesian origins were erased in favor of the new g3 character. i’m samoan, and polynesian representation in media is little to none… lagoona was a character i grew up with-and even if i didn’t know at the time, the hope of her redesign resembling or at least acknowledging SOME of what her g1 laid down was completely diminished by her new doll & lore. i don’t hate g3 lagoona by any means, but it’s a disservice to dismiss her g1 cultural influences
Exactly, Lagoona was the only Australian character that I knew of as a kid (I didn't watch the wiggles or don't remember doing so since I was likely very young if I did). While kids have things like Bluey now, I don't think I've seen any First Nations people represented in it besides maybe one. It would be so amazing to see more characters like that, especially because of the extreme rates of discrimination that occurs today against them.
_Was_ she implied to be aboriginal/Polynesian? I'm nowhere near the Monster High fandom, but she sounds like...well, she's too blue to be a white Australian, but you know what I mean.
@@demetriam2408 Hey just letting you know that 'Aboriginals' is not the right term, is offensive, and shouldn't be used unless you're an Aboriginal person. Better terms are; Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people, First Nations people or First peoples.
I am honestly so devastated that I didn't buy the generation 1 dolls back in the day when I had the chance. I always loved them and thought they were so cool and beautiful but the whole craze was a little after my time and I couldn't justify buying dolls for myself at that time. Now I am kicking myself for not just getting them!! Awesome video as always
This is exactly how I feel about Monster High and especially Ever After High. I remember wanting them so bad but I just couldn’t justify it on my broke college student budget. Now I’m kicking myself because I probably could have made a profit if I ever wanted to sell them because they are so rare now.
Though Draculaura is still considerably less goth overall (far too bright of clothing, that's the only real issue here) They did make one change to her design that I think is more goth than her previous design, and the heart detail on her cheek. Making it smaller and black reminds me Aurelio Voltaire, a fairly popular goth/dark cabaret artist who has the same detail on his cheek.
I really love the reboot, the only thing I really dislike and hate about it above everything else is that Mattel keeps using polypropylene for the hair, and will continue to use it more and more. Polypropylene is the cheapest hair material you can get, on top of that it can DISINTEGRATE on its own. Meaning Mattel is forcing us to pay a premium for not only the cheapest materials, but something that will disintegrate over time. It's fucked up like honestly.
@@pupa_hye it will, unfortunately. There's treated polypropylene, (the thing that the base Cleo has), and there's untreated polypropylene. Treated polypropylene should last a bit longer, and with today's doll hair technology the polypropylene in general should last a tiny bit longer, but that hair is going to go no matter what. In about 10 to 15 years time depending on different things like the environment and how good the hair is and what not, it's going to start falling out of the head. It's going to disintegrate no matter what you do, that's why a lot of people that collect dolls actually reroot the doll hair. The best you can do is just to make sure the hair is clean and appreciate the doll while you can. Or you can start investing in buying synthetic doll hair like Saran and learning how to re-root a doll, but we should not be doing Mattel's job for them. A moment of silence for all the Cleos and Clawdeens that are going to be bald come a decade-and-a-halfs time.
To answer why Frankie is blue/missing neckbolts, the original series was done in collaboration with Universal, who has the right to the classic monster looks. Universal is... strict about this to say the least, especially with Frankenstein's monster. So, when they redid the design, they had to make changes to satisfy the rules.
I think that my big issue with G3 is that it doesn’t feel as “counterculture” anymore. And god I know that sounds silly as fuck lol, like I know G1 wasn’t exactly counterculture either, but as a kid who actively got mocked for dressing the way some of these dolls dressed, it felt validating to see them. It also showcased different alt styles in really cool ways. The new designs don’t feel alt at all. You can scroll tiktok for like 5 minutes and see many people dressed the way these dolls are. I know partly that’s because generally there’s a lot more acceptance of alt styles in the modern day, but there are still alt subcultures they could have drawn more from.
As someone who has no nostalgia or experience with the franchise and just watched because I love this channel, it's kind of surprising to me how much of the discourse around comparing G1 to G3 seems to just boil down to "It's different than what I grew up with so I don't like it" when I feel like that's kind of the point of new generations in general. Not to say that new dolls can't be for old fans, but I feel like those old fans kind of tend to skim over the fact that they're not the target market and the current generation that is the target is a lot different than when we were growing up. From a pure aesthetic standpoint during the comparison part of the video there was only really one doll I didn't think looked good of the new G3. Just some thoughts from someone who has no real horse in the Monster High race, really enjoyed the video though!
This!! I grew up loving gen 1 (missing gen 2) and now loving gen 3 and tbh the new look is super cute and stylized but it's better to just take it as it's own thing than to try and find the differences to complain. The only points I dont like in the differences are more so within the show (like ghoulia not speaking in grunts/moans) because they had points of representation that could still be utilized. But the dolls themselves, gen 1 and 3, are gorgeous in their own ways!
@@hopsymopsy8352 i agree! for me it took a while to get used to several dolls, especially ghoulia, but i've come to respect it as its own entity and now i really love the dolls (ghoulia's my current fav lol)
I'm in the same boat honestly. I was in highschool and then college when Monster High was at its peak, so while I watched a few of the episodes on youtube, I never got into the fandom. I think most of these new dolls are very well done when you're looking at them on their own merits. Heck I'm honestly tempted to get my own Draculara for the first time.
This is how I feel lol, I was not at all into Monster High as a kid so I guess I can't say much, but I actually LOVE these new designs like. A lot. I legit want to get some. (The only design I dislike is Ghoulia.)
With the whole lagoona thing, I personally think (and a few others have suggested this) that she should’ve been Aboriginal Australian. For one, it keeps her being Australian and also helps bring representation for a minority of people who don’t see a lot of themselves in media.
honestly my only real issue with the new dolls is that they’ve completely erased draculauras balkan identity, im part romanian & it was lowk rlly upsetting to see that they just erased her heritage & culture like that it happens a lot within western media to balkan characters like there’s literally 0 representation for us out there which is why i loved draculaura so much as a kid bc she was romanian like me 😭
omg same! i emigrated from romania when i was 4 and absolutely none of my peers knew where romania was and i felt so self conscious, it's a real bummer they changed that up. ik asian rep is important and i don't have a problem with it but draculaura is like the only character from really any western media i know of that's romanian so i kind of wish they kept that.
I think she looks much more wealthy. She definitely gives a “I’m richer than you” vibe, but without making her very Regina George “mean girl.” I can’t speak much of her new personality, I’ve only seen clips of the show.
some new representation that i’m over the moon about in g3 is twyla being autistic. as an autistic person who had a special interest in monster high as a child, it’s a delight to see an openly autistic character who is celebrated for her differences in line with the franchise’s overall message. i can’t explain how important it is that she says “i’m autistic” straight up rather than it just being implied. that’s the sort of representation that would have been so meaningful to me as a child, and i’m so happy that a new generation is going to have that. (she’s also voiced by kayla cromer, the first ever autistic actor to play an autistic main character in a tv show [everything’s gonna be ok]!)
WAIT for real???? omg i just watch the clip that she just say shes autistic on the series, imma gonna cry omg this is so amazing, im just really really happy, the way its represented its actually so good, the impact of she saying 'i am autistic' and explaining that loud noises bothers her, in a kids show, in such a simple way. just ... this just make me so SO happy right now, this made my day seriously
Actually I think Chloe Hayden was the first autistic actor to play an autistic character in a tv show (the show is called heartbreak high) unless your just talking about animated tv shows.
@@Tundrea3 everything’s gonna be ok came out in 2020, whereas heartbreak high came out in 2022. chloe hayden is still listed as one of the first though. :)
As a non-binary fan I’ve also been really irritated by people saying Frankie doesn’t look “androgynous” enough.. totally missing the point of representation and expecting them to be a stereotype. N-B people can be fem and that just means they’re fashionable
And i’m pretty sure them being non-binary has more to do with the fact they’re an agglomeration of different people, of different genders, so their look doesn’t really have much to do with it.
saying she must wear androgynous clothes because she is nonbinary is such a secretly right-winger thing to say. "You're a guy so you can't wear make-up, you're a girl so you can't wear pants!" If anything, we are apes and we should not wear clothes!!! But we evolved past that. So, why are we gendering clothes?
Isn't that basically like complaining about a cisgender woman wearing pants and a t-shirt instead of a dress? Who cares? Let people wear whatever they want.
On the contrary, it also comes off as lazy representation. Production team thought "hm, we don't have anybody for the non-binary checkbox yet? Ohh, what if we take the Frankensteins monster, after all they're made up of different body parts anyways" (which plays into the "queer/neurodivergent characters being non-human"-stereotype, which still applies to Frankie due to being "created" rather than "born" like most other monsters) and had to do nothing else except use different pronouns. Personally, I wouldn't even want Frankie to be more androgynous. I would've wanted a cool younger sibling that's nonbinary and more visible as such. The theory of Frankensteins monsters being nb is not bad itself, it's just weird if you apply it to a character that has never had any gender-related issues prior to that.
Idk man, I know Draculaura isn't really plus sized, but when I saw her new body, I instantly wanted her. I felt so much more drawn to her for having wider hips and curves, I would have loved seeing a body type like that on my dolls when i was a kid. I love my Draculaura, and I even bought her skulltamite secrets outfit, because it felt more goth than her g3 release one
Yeah, they just gave her a dumpy. I don't like how they changed her from Dracula's adopted daughter to his biological daughter, though. What does Mattel have against adoption?
This is just my opinion, but I think a lot of people making the criticisms about g3 not being "alt" enough aren't really taking context into consideration. During the late 2000s and early 2010s alternative styles were far more niche, so when Monster High came out it was not only able to corner such a market other dolls hadn't yet, but introduce a new generation to those styles! But as seen with g3's "tiktok" fashion, alt fashion is far more mainstream than it used to be. Mattel simply can't replicate the effect the original dolls had on the public as a result, so it makes sense they'd try a different target audience this time around. My main takeaway is that due to that, whether you like g1 or g3 better really just has to do with what youd personally be looking for in that kind of doll line. Neither should be seen as objectively "better" or "worse" than the other, because they're clearly going for different things. If the fanbase could just accept that I think the lovers of both generations (especially g1 fans) would come across as far less hostile.
What’s wrong with debating about taste? It’s boring to go “wow everyone’s opinion is so equally valid, let’s not discuss anything ever”. G1 is better than G3 imo for lots of reasons.
@@mr.goldfish1530 It does go somewhere, I’ve found a lot of appreciation for the things that I never understood before. It’s also just fun as long as it doesn’t get too heated, though even that has it’s fun bits.
Just wanted to point out a few inaccuracies I personally didn't see anyone else mention. Lagoona still has her arm fins, they are just under her long sleeve shirt. I was playing around with my doll and surprised to notice they are indeed there! Secondly, Toralei, Ghoulia, and Deuce were not all Target exclusives, only Ghoulia is. Toralei is a Walmart exclusive and Deuce is an Amazon exclusive.
If we are being real, if these dolls came out right now not under the Monster high name the dolls community would be flipping out, and loving it. I really don’t think it deserves the hate it is getting at all :/
I think the only thing that is disappointing design worse is now they usually changed the cool skin colors. Although I imagine they went with more bold clothes so it leveled out design worse to change the skin
Ehh, I sort of agree- I mean, I get what you are saying, but I'm not too sure if it applies; a lot of people can recognise that these are good dolls, but they might not see them as good MONSTER HIGH dolls. I think it sort of comes with the territory when a series is rebooted, but the new dolls just aren't what people are wanting to see from Monster High franchise and not how people enjoy seeing their favourite characters represented.
All the hate I’ve seen is comparisons to past generations’ designs. In terms of that, that hate could be viewed as warranted. I agree that if these dolls came out now they’d be doing way better, but saying the hate isn’t warranted doesn’t make sense.
One thing I love about Frankie's doll is that they come with a vest that doubles as a binder! And you can take it on and off for more masc or femme looks. As an enby myself, I was curious how the makers would go about designing a nonbinary body. No matter how they did it, it would exclude body types. But I think using the clothing to give choice to the presentation was a good move
@everythingslayer _ you're aware Frankie is not a real person and thus cannot be offended by your Le Epic Own, right. Who has their panties in a knot about pronouns, exactly?
I was wondering if they would implement some kind of feature like that on Frankie. Given that they’re a Frankenstein’s monster I was imagining something along the lines of switching out Frankie’s chest and hips to look more feminine or masculine
@@morganorwhatever I know this isnt the original point but being able to have maybe other arms or legs and other things to swap out on frankie would be so cool- like imagine if you could have different versions of their prosthetic leg with different designs you could switch between
As an avid OG fan of G1, this is my "hot take" on G3: I wish instead of, "revamping characters for a modern audience," that they'd just make new ones. Explore new monsters, legends and ghouls from different cultures instead of changing the monsters we all grew up with.
Highly agree, I’m bisexual and latina, but I honestly couldn’t care less about these lazy changes. Wanna hear new stories, get a full meal instead of confirming myself with these crumbs.
But what monsters would they explore now? Didn't they go through most of them with G1 and G2? Idk, I haven't been following up with it all, I've just started collecting the G3 dolls a few months ago, but I thought they'd gone through A LOT of legends and monsters with the first two Gen
When the original monster high dolls were released I was at an age where I wasn't interested in dolls so I didn't grow up with these and lack the nostalgia. I just wanna say that I love Draculaura's color scheme and fashion style in both the original series and the third generation. Absolutely iconic.
If I’m like 100% honest, I gotta say that I love her face now more, draculaura is like a super sweet girl and it shows more on her new doll now than on the old one, she looked a bit mean (only a tiny bit)
Same! I had jjjjust aged out of dolls but always thought they were cool. I’m really excited to own a lot of the G3 dolls and I love them. I’d love to grab the G1 dolls. But I love my new Lagoona.
Same, it was little after I stopped playing with dolls but I wanted them so bad as a collector. Thank God I didn't get them because they would be collecting dust.
Frankie being nonbinary makes SO much sense. They literally are the child of Frankenstein's monster, a being made of parts of several different people, and therefore not entirely one gender. To me, Frankie being nonbinary makes as much sense as a detail as them having two different colored eyes or stiches. It fits their monster type perfectly and makes nonbinary people like me feel included
I love her new look buuut i miss her mint green skin tho, the blue is nice and just wish they would have keep that shade of green for another doll like Gholia but now she is also blue…
It doesn't make sense since Frankie is clearly made from female parts, much like how Frankenstein's monster is clearly male. And considering it's just a fad, it's pretty dumb to make a fictional character non-binary.
@lain iwakura even tho their body shape is feminine (therefore probably has limbs and torso and such from feminine bodies) their brain or their organs or any numerous or parts could be from masculine bodies. Other cultures have had nonbinary genders for centuries, like Polynesian and Native American cultures, so nonbinary genders aren't new and aren't going anywhere. It just seems new because more people are hearing about it and therefore more people are able to look within themselves to examine their gender. There are numerous studies that show being trans is real.
So mad at what they did to Clawdeen. My girl deserves a beautiful mane of brown hair and they gave her a toned down white and pink look- honestly I’m not living for it
Ahhh I'm a 3d modeler and I got to work on those music videos. Long time fan of yours and it was surreal to see screenshots of art I worked on on your channel. So fun! Thank you for your videos! I'm enjoying gen 3 a lot, but I likely have a little bias going into it.
ohhh hell yeah!! yeah the animation was so cool for those and really felt like a kid playing with dolls, or what they'd imagine the dolls moving around would look like. super cool
honestly, as someone who isn't really concerned with gender stuff and labels for themselves, I still felt represented by Frankie to a degree that I haven't been before. There's something about them outwardly expressing being nb and yet still dressing in more feminine outfits that really resonated with how I percieve myself and my own gender. I'm a firm believer that all clothes are unisex and I'm glad to see a character from my childhood now represent the same idea
Hey Izzy u CAN actually take lagoonas leg fins off! You just slide them a little up and out and the middle peg thingey it turned downward so they dont fall off as often!
I was definitely more into Ever After High as a franchise as I found the story and characters more interesting but I still really appreciated the style and design details of Monster High. It's a shame they lost the bold alternative looks the original line had but at the same time fashion trends also change over time so sticking too close to the originals might have made them feel dated to a younger demographic.
I also preferred Ever After High! It's story was too good to be bound to a doll line tbh I agree with your take on the fashion, but also if you look at all the MH lines you'll find that G1 loses a lot of it's alt influence pretty quickly into it's run. It's bold fashion, but not necessarily alt. There are exceptions to this ofc, but overall it's not as alt as a lot of people make it out to be
I LOVED eah! It was a favorite and I still go re watch it every once and a while. Honestly it's a shame it ended so soon. I always thought monster high was cool but I was more attached to ever after, despite being more goth punk then fairy tale princess lol. I really miss the series, I would've loved to see where it ended up had it not been canned. That being said i think thease designs have potential, in the way that we'll get to see how they develop over a new generation :) Even if their not my beloved ever after, their still something
I love Twyla's redesign actually, especially her personality that is openly talking about sensory issues and other neurodivergent problems... It made me feel way more represented and she is absolutely perfect for the representation in my eyes❤❤❤
I love that twyla is autistic, her portrayal is great with her actually saying it and it not being locked to a tweet saying she is for brownie points. I will always love g3 because it saw me and didnt say I have to look weird or be dumb or have to bend to others, it said that we can still be excepted and loved. also I really like twyla's new outfit because it looks like something that wouldn't cause over sensory issues but can still be fashionable
I personally really like her redesign! It keeps the same hazy/ethereal qualities of the original, but makes it more, for lack of a better word, psychedelic, rather than nightmarish, and weird trippy dreams can honestly be just as unnerving as nightmares. It’s still a very dreamlike style, and I enjoy it a lot.
I remember my college professor ranting about how bad Twyla's rep was while I was sitting right there feeling *extremely* represented by Twyla, especially her noise sensitivity :'D with that being said, her top/sweater would definitely give me personally sensory issues (though it's great that some autistic people like it!) cuz I ironically tend to feel trapped by more baggy/oversized tops.
one thing i always hated about the original dolls was the extremely curved backs. i have an original operetta (frights camera action) and i swear i could use her back to draw a circle if i turned her a few times. the fact that the new ones don’t have debilitating scoliosis is enough for me to like them
When I first saw the new Draculaura I almost cried. I’ve had huge hips my whole life and felt out of place when I was with children at my age. Just the thought that another kid like me can finally find themself in a gorgeous doll makes me happy. She’s not plus-size, she’s just got big hips. And it’s normal. Just like me.
I love the redesigns for one big reason: they look like children and not adults! they're in High School, not College, why did they always look like adults to the point where people were mad that they looked childlike? I love g1 because I grew up with it but taking off the rose tinted glasses and seeing how some fans wish these teenagers were still hot baddies instead of looking their age is mind-rattling. g1 was iconic and legendary, that'll always be true, but I think g3 is gonna do pretty great on its own too :)
Izzzyzzz I just wanted to say thank you for making all of your doll videos. As a trans women, I was never allowed to play with dolls, but after watching all of your doll videos i immediately purchased a g3 draculuara! I’m so happy that you made me realize that’s perfectly okay for me to do. You are really a great youtuber, keep up the good work❤️🏳️⚧️
@@Bratzbuyingclotheshy did you comment on your own comment saying you don’t care? ETA: I’m stupid, I think the comment you were replying to was deleted 🤦♀️ carry on and congrats on the doll!!
I'm so happy for you!! it's absolutely wonderful to see trans joy! Hope you're doing well :D I'm a trans dude and I recently got my first MH doll so I'm shaking ur hand in trans MH fan solidarity
OMG i also just bought a g3 draculaura (skulltimate secrets version) as my first ever doll 😭 its being delivered and i can't wait to get it... im going to cry so much healing my lost childhood. i always thought monster high was so cool but societal pressure stopped me from even allowing myself to really admit it to myself at the time.
lagoona being a deceptively cute psychopath that will absolutely eat you if given the chance is what opened me up a bit more to the new generation. that and cleo just casually dumping her organs on her desk.
As someone who adored the old dolls and goth vibe, I actually also really love the new generation (as an Aussie though I also can't get most of the dolls yet)! One criticism that kinda bugs me is people saying the ghouls look too young. You look at any G1 character bio and you'll see that most of the characters are around 15. I know a lot of adult collectors loved how mature the dolls looked, I did too, but seeing so many people say they hate how childish they look while completely ignoring the fact that they literally are children just bugs me a bit.
36:43 just a mention on this as an Aussie, a lot of people were upset as First Nations regularly headcanoned her and saw her as First Nations. First Nations people are nearly never represented in media, like ever, so they felt safe and happy with a character they could consider one of their own. When it was found out she was no longer going to be aussie it upset a lot of First Nation people as they lost the one character they could consider their representation. Of course it was just a headcanon but it was a popular headcanon that was there as rep that First Nations lacked.
As an nb adult whose first exposure to Monster High was seeing the live action show (movie?) when my nieces were watching it, I was very surprised by Frankie, and immediately fell in love with their style and their quirky demeanor. They're the main reason I clicked on this video yesterday 😅
As an Australian (the most oppressed minority) Im happy we dont have a character with a bad accent anymore. It would be really cool if they were to make characters based on some of the creatures actually from australian folklore especially the ones that evolved from myths from various aboriginal nations
I feel like the live action movie that came out recently is what turned me away from the new generation so harshly, but after seeing the new dolls theyve definitely grown on me. The show isnt terrible either. its not the original, but thats okay. I see it as its own thing at this point. Im excited for the Abby doll
I've been really enjoying G3 so far! Seeing these beloved childhood characters redesigned to fit more contemporary styles is super cool! I'm so excited to see how ghouls like Venus, Robecca and Rochelle translate into the new gen! Also really excited to see the Wearcat Twins in doll form as I love to look of their new designs in the animation! Another great video
as a femme-presenting non binary person frankie having a feminine style is really important to me. anytime a doll line includes a non binary character theyre almost always depicted with short, buzz-cut hair and neutral clothing. obviously its completely fine, a lot of non binary people dress like that, but i think its really important to represent all flavours of non binary, its important to show that we're not just an in-between between female and male. frankie dressing like they do really speaks to me and makes me happy beyond belief, ive never felt represented by a character in regards to my gender so well
RIGHT??? It means so much to me as well!! We are so much more than "splitting the difference," we are a whole broad range of identities who encompass a whole broad range of styles. The rep is more important to me than I can describe :")
Can you please provide examples of more androgynous nb characters in doll lines? I haven't seen that trend, that's why I think that choosing a more femme look for a doll is a safer option, but I confess, I don't follow the... uh... dollsphere much, so I will appreciate your response.
@@sanxxxx obviously you're an ass who doesn't care about accuracy but specifying "straight girl" when the commenter didn't mention their attraction in any way. Lol. Lmao
@@sanxxxx the way these feminine nb girls are only nb bc they like being feminine but dislike the experiences that come with being female..... very sad.....
As someone who grew up with the original dolls from a young age and regretted giving them away as a teenager, gotta say I love all the changes appearance-wise. Other than Ghoulia's unfortunately. I do wish they hadn't broken Cleo and Deuce up since they were an amazing relationship that wasn't super unhealthy and they genuinely cared for each other, but Frankie and her could be adorable too.
Honestly I really love G3s designs. Like I respect that others don't like 'em, but I think they're very charming and look more like modern teenagers. I feel that it's possible too many people are caught up in their nostalgia about the franchise that they don't like change. All the monster high dolls of G1 dressed like teens in the late 2000s to early 2010s. G3 monster high girls just dress like 2020 teens. I think it's cute.
As and Australian let me just say……..there aren’t a lot of us in main stream americanised media. Lagoona was the only Australian character in any American show I can remember growing up (we only really had British or American shows here). I grew up by the beach swimming on the Great Barrier Reef and I related to lagoona so damn much. She was the first toy I ever bought for myself as a child. She is the reason my favourite colours were blue and yellow when I was little. She was the only character that ever sounded even remotely like me (the accent was so bad oml but I lived for it) I felt like she was my character, she was my literal obsession……….so when g3 hit I felt my childhood kinda die in a way. Idk, she isn’t like me anymore. My relation to her and familiarity I had with the character is gone. She isn’t Australian, she isn’t blue and yellow, she doesn’t live in the Great Barrier Reef……kinda depresso.
I'm Latina! I honestly would prefer it if Lagoona was half-aboriginal aussie and half-Latina, keeping the best of both worlds. Like maybe have her be born in Honduras and live in Australia, or the opposite. I wish they kept her curly hair and maybe her skin tone. I really don't understand why they changed that 😭 Also they immediately stereotyped her in her song which...great job guys...
I am Hungarian. And we are exceedingly sparsely represented in media. So such a likeable character (Draculaura) being Hungarian was an extremely heartwarming aspect to me, until they altered her nationality....
It was seriously needed. Gen3 does a great job in fixing what was lacking or untreated in the OG MH lore (relationships with humans, locations…) Unpopular opinion : but even though Clawdeen was sporty AND had a passion for fashion in Gen1. I wished it was kept because it was a really lovable side of her character. (And I wished Abbey kept her pink highlights in her hair, it was everything. Just details.)
Not the most popular opinion, but I wish they had made new characters instead of reusing the old ones. I know there are many reasons why they didn't but, it would've made sense since they were going to change so much anyways. Also I'd like the idea of the original cast being alumni and being their parents who make cameos and help out the new gen of ghouls. Besides that though G3 has definitely grown on me.
@@StarlightPrism It's just a thought since some of the dolls' designs and their backstories are so different that they could've been new characters on their own (like Ghoulia and Lagoona). You're right that their target audience probably wouldn't remember the original line well enough to care though.
@@StarlightPrism "the target audience wouldn't be that familiar with the original doll line anyway." then why not just make the gen 3 characters the kids of the originals or related to them
It's funny that one of the main complaints about g3 is that they "look too young" considering that it's actually the first time the characters actually look 15/16
there are a lot of things i like about the redesigns: • frankie being non binary, there are going to be a lot of gender queer kids that feel validated seeing them • clawdeen having edges, it’s a nice touch in making her black coded • draculaura and cleo having different body types. they aren’t vastly different but it’s a start! maybe we will get even more body variety on the future • draculaura being asian, i’m sure asian kids watching the show will be happy it’s easy to focus on the negatives, but imo there r many positives too
lmao feel validated seeing WHAT? new frankie uses they/them and that's it. not gnc, not transitioning, no dysphoria, no issues with intolerance. "they/them" is just another accessory.
@@sincerelyzee521 are you asking for a character in the show to call them a slur or something Not all of queer media needs to involve suffering for god’s sake it’s for KIDS
@@sincerelyzee521 she helps to represent and normalise a part of our community, especially to a younger audience where a lot of the things you mention might get the show in trouble. Perfect is the enemy of good.
Ghoulia also no longer speaks in moans. I feel like this also did her dirty, characters with speech impediments are rare to come across and her origin as a zombie was too perfect for that. And for Frankie it actually does make sense in a way for her to be non-binary: She's stitched from various body parts, most likely a mix of different genders.
iirc in the live action movie frankie even mentions they have brain parts from different geniuses and the people they mention are different genders so even their brain is made of different genders :)
They actually say in the show that they have parts of the brains from genuises throughout history lot of them being male (they list names but i forget which ones), so it absolutely makes sense
Well there's also the fact that people just...can be nonbinary. Like, there doesn't need to really be an external lore justification for the existence of nonbinary people, and pretending otherwise kind of reeks of transphobia.
As a femme AFAB nonbinary person, very few things have EVER made me feel as validated as G3 Frankie. Feminine aesthetics are typically seen as way more loaded gender-wise than masculine aesthetics and I'm sick and tired of being told I have to perform androgyny to be seen as valid in my identity. WE DO NOT OWE ANYBODY ANDROGYNY. We are allowed to have long hair and wear dresses or makeup or anything else traditionally feminine and we are still validly nonbinary, because while clothes CAN absolutely be an expression of gender, clothes =/= gender. Enbies across the spectrum deserve to be represented, so to me, that representation on its own makes this entire reboot 100% worth it.
I’m a huge fan of MH! I started collecting as a teenager with G1 and collect G3 now, and I adore the changes that have been made (for the most part). I think a lot of people in my age demographic just… can’t handle something they grew up with no longer being for them. Also re: Frankie: I’m a femme nb so whenever I hear people saying they need to look androgynous to be proper nb representation I roll my eyes. It shouldn’t matter how you look for people to use the correct pronouns. 🙄
Personally, I was really wary when they announced G3, and I kinda hated the designs at first sight. I decided I would just ignore it and think "yeah, they keep ruining franchises I love". But after some time I came back to the fandom and found out about all the small bits of representation and thought "oh, cute", I saw some people's drawings of the new designs and I was like "damn, some of these fits go hard gurl" and eventually I noticed I was obsessed with the dolls, loved every single one of them, and I currently think G3 is the perfect revamp we needed for Monster High
I like the new designs tbh. Im not a hardcore fan but I love the inclusiveness of all of it. The fact that Frankie is NB and still feminine is a great way to show younger teens and tweens that they can be NB and do whatever they want. They don't owe anyone androgyny. Maybe we'll get more characters under that trans umbrella in the future!
I'm a pretty big fan of G3 so far. I actually really love the changes to some of the personalities and there are some dolls that I like better than the original. As you mentioned there's Deuce, but I also love what they did with Abbey and Clawd. Some concept art for Skelita Calaveras has also been leaked and I honestly adore it and can't wait to get a first look at the doll.
i personally love the reboot. on the topic of frankie “not being androgynous enough” enbys (myself included) will tell you, non-binary people do not owe anyone androgyny. i think its actually really important to have representation for feminine presenting non-binary people because being portrayed as androgynous is just comfortable for mainstream audiences. this encourages people who are new to non-binary and trans people to start asking EVERYONE what their pronouns are.
i'd love to see some more masculine nonbinary characters later on, as well. because there's this sort of culture of people expecting enbies to all be AFAB but more androgynous. i'm a pretty feminine presenting nonbinary person and so frankie makes me so happy to see a version of nonbinary that aligns with myself. but i definitely want to see more dolls and more characters in media in general that are masculine-leaning nonbinary! more enby diversity pleaseee
THIS! i also hope they won't be the only nonbinary character released/repurposed, either, so we can really get a whole spectrum of nonbinary characters to show "hey! look at all these nonbinary people who are different from each other and aren't all androgynous!! because they don't have to be!!!! acknowledge it!!!!!!!!!!" cuz that'd make me happy ❤
1) i love the gothic G1 looks especially the lipsticks 2) please do a barbie deepdive ahead of the new movie!! i want it to be 6 hours long and cover every doll and every movie and everything!! (obviously that would be too much work for you but still any vague barbie history will be greatly recived) xx
As an outsider looking in and a character designer, the new dolls have a lot of great details and design idea’s but they’re a bit too light in their overall color scheme. Like it needed a couple more color alternatives. It just looks a lot younger
As a dude who has recently discovered a love for these goth dolls, I think Gen 3 does lack some of the edge of Gen 1 but they're doing some cool stuff with it so I think we should let them cook. Hopefully they'll find their stride. I love G3 Draculaura, and I do like the nb, autistic, prosthetic, etc representation they're putting in
I personally really hope they make the characters age some, maybe age into the more gothic, dark styles of g1. likely not quite as harsh but clearly more reminiscent of the old gen while still having the new style. Darker makeup especially
I really love both gens but what gets on my nerves is when people say that MH lost it's "goth/emo" style. Gen 1 was neither goth or emo as those are music subcultures and monster high made more references to pop music 😭 That being said, I do hope we get to see more inspirations of alt cultures, even the ones that aren't dark like Lolita, Mori Kei, Gyaru styles, Decora, Ect. Also, maybe some actual references to goth music would be cool too
Goth is literally more than just a music subculture how stupid are you. Goth as a style and culture has been around far far longer than the music. Please do research before leaving ignorant ass comments like this jfc.
@@lavose8709 honestly true, but Mayhaps they could do something like goldie from ever after high which her lolita esc outfit! Always loved both series fashion
There's definetly things I like and dislike. I love the quality, more inclusive character traits and that we introduced some different body types, especially Dracula, I wouldn't say plus sized, but having softer figure and I hope we get to see more vamp looks for her. There's some lore things I question and though I think Lagoona's new design is very cute on its own, it just doesn't feel watery to me. Plus I would have actually loved it if they gave Clawdeen a darker skin and more textured hair.
im actually incredibly impressed with how gorgeous most of the new designs are! i can see why so many people miss the originals, i think theyre gorgeous too and love their aesthetic. i just ALSO really like the new ones and theres so many good things to say about them, especially with the colors
i think the criticism of g1 being “darker and more alt” is kind of shortsighted as that aesthetic only rlly applies to the first few releases they had in 2010. if you look at their dolls from later lines, they are much more colorful lol
My experience with & interest in the MH brand is basically entirely from the OOAK side of things, and from that perspective, I LOVE the new dolls. The increased articulation & wider range of body types is so great - I can only hope that they continue to explore more even body diversity going forward. I can't wait for these dolls to start popping up on the used market in a few years.
Your looks are always so iconic 💅🏻!!! I never really had any monster high dolls as I was basically a teenager when they came out and I was trying desperately to not be labeled “childish and cringe” (now I don’t GAF embrace the cringe lol) but I am absolutely obsessed with the progression of the dolls. I actually really do like the new redesigns (most of them) I also appreciate that they take feedback from loyal fans pretty seriously (for the most part lol)
I see a lot of people in the comments writing from a place of someone who grew up with the dolls. I didn’t. In fact I wasn’t allowed to have them. Wanted to share my opinion in contrast! Unfortunately for me, I really want to like G3 but I can’t. My problem is with mainly the outfits. I’m going to put this very bluntly: when you walk down the aisle at target it is STARKLY apparent that the Monster High dolls are not the nicest looking or most cared for dolls. Your eyes are immediately drawn to Rainbow High and LOL. They have incredible detailing on the clothes, shoes, and accessories. Their face ups are stunning with detailed eyes and rich skin tones and bold, darker makeup, paired with stunning hairstyles and textures. The boxes are premium and often times have full extra clothes sets. Monster high…. The boxes are flimsy, less detailed. The accessories are small items that get lost. The color combinations clash like nobodies business and the clothes are, for lack of better wording, 2005 teenager mixed with VSCO girl. The attention to detail is just not there in comparison. I also want to emphasize, again, I wasn’t allowed to have the gen 1 dolls because they were “evil.” My friend had some, and I remember loving Lagoona, and also Clawdeen because I’m mixed-I’d never in my life seen a doll that looked like me. But I never saw them in store. I rarely ever saw them at my friend’s house. This is all coming from someone who has NO nostalgia attached. And I have to say, from someone who got into Monster High Immediately, if given the choice and I’m within the target demographic (barely): I’d pick to buy generation 1 at least 100 times over.
Most of the designs are cool to me, although I do think clawdeen has sorta been Mary-Sue-ified… but Lagoona. Hon the pink is just NOT it. If they just made her blue again I think I could bear it
I personally disagree, I've seen people redesign lagoona with blue skin but it just doesn't look right. Coral fits her more and the contrast it has with her turqoise and ocean colored outifts is very beautiful. Her fearidescent and spa day dolls are the best examples of this
Am I the only one who feels like they don’t dress like current teenagers? I’m not a teenager but I’m in college and I don’t feel like this represents how people look, even in a casual way. Their outfits look like an elementary school girl’s fantasy wardrobe in 2010, I’m talking straight out the Justice catalog and the set of Shake It Up or Victorious. It really feels like they looked at the kind of inclusive redesigns that fanartists drew for other fandoms in the mid 2010s (generally made by people who couldn’t dress) and said “yes, this is what we want!” without taking the fact that they are a fashion doll line into account and trying to make it inclusive AND fashionable. Now it just looks mid.
does anyone remember the old monster high website? I used to spend hours there just looking at all the character profiles, playing the games, it was so cool, I wish they at least rebooted it too :(
I remember getting clawdia and draculaura first gen dolls as a kid and im so pissed that i didnt keep the boxes and scattered the accessories everywhere bc i was a kid and played with the dolls but today I would love to have them exposed somewhere in my room but nah when I was a kid i did not realize how precious they'd be today xD
I'm always amazed that you're still able to find interesting topics to make videos about, it's always on something I can't wait to watch! If I had a youtube channel I'd have run out of ideas ages ago
Quick correction-- Ghoulia is the only doll who is Target exclusive (for now)! Deuce is Amazon exclusive and Toralei is Walmart exclusive! I grew up with G1, and I actually ADORE G3! I hope we can get more variety in the body types and I'm excited to see more G1 dolls come back.
My G3 hot takes: - I like the colorfulness - Give all the Clawdeen dolls glasses Mattel you cowards - Lagoona is feral and I kinda love it - Needs more body types, particularly more plus size. There’s a character in the show Iris who’s plus size but she’s a background character - Headmistress Bloodgood is hot? - Dracula is hot? And pink! - I want more
I think the varying body types is actually really nice. Some of them being taller or shorter and even curvy is pretty neat! I'd like to see them expand upon that with more variations like maybe having more tummy or a muscular feminine body and non-muscular dude body types. I'd also really like to see more interesting body details, like Lagoona's translucent legs and fins, as the unique features like that really appeal to me design-wise.
Thank you for all the positive things you said in this video. I was about 5-6 when I got my first doll. When i got kicked out of my house at 15, I lost all of my monster high dolls, and I had about 6 or 7 different dolls with a bunch of different outfits that I had personally made. Now I am trying to find my collection again, and I am so happy to see that they have added a nonbinary character and possibly multiple LGBTQ+ characters. It makes my inner child smile as now he knows that its ok to like "girly thing" and its ok to like whoever the f you want to
I'm so sorry Izzy but I love Twyla haha I think she is absolutely gorgeous and her characterization is heart-meltingly cute in the series.The only thing that I am not a fan of is how her shadows feel blocky as they don't blend in well enough on the hands.
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The only one I dislike is Lagoona which is sad because I use to love her. Now, with her new design I feel like shes not even the same person. They could have just updated her old look and make this new design a cousin of hers or something. Just, eughhhh the pink skin makes me think she's fleshy like a dolphin rather then scaley like the beast from the black lagoon.
What’s up with Izzzyzzz’s style? She looks like a different person every video 🥸
@@Satire_Filmz so? Can she not wear or look how she wants to?
@@blondeepartygirl She absolutely can! Sorry if it came off as rude 😭 I’m a long time fan! Just a niche observation!
@@Satire_Filmz no no that's okay! I understand haha have a nice day! :D
Fun fact: Frankie no longer has their green skin or neck bolts due to copyright issues!
(Long story short, G1 and 2 were Universal Collabs while G3 isn’t, and they own the rights to the iconic Frankenstein design!)
*their but yes! I've heard the same thing. Tbh I think they look great without those details even if it would've been nice to see it carry over
And canonically they're nonbinary ,made up of male and female scientists, so it makes a lot of sense!
@@mediocreme7798 thanks for mentioning my (now fortunately fixed) mistake! :)
The US copyright system is in dire need of reform
couldve used a different shade of green
Also, the choice to make Abbey Bominable actually from the Himalayas (which stretches over India, Pakistan, Nepal, Bhutan and China), where the Abominable Snowman legend really comes from, instead of the original Russian/Eastern European accent which wasn't even faithful to where the legend originated, was so nice. Her mom in the series is actually wearing a sari-like style made of icicles and snow, and it makes my heart melt!! Yes to letting traditional styles get to be monster-fied in a respectful way too!!
Amazing! Just how you highlighted diversity of one group of people and then erased it with a different one. You know that Eastern Europe is not a one country and definitely not russia? What is wrong with you? People there talk different languages and have different accents. Go educate yourself
@@ravenglebsky9404 if she is from the Himalayas, she shouldn't have had a vaguely Eastern European accent, that is just ignorance on Mattel's part since we got no indication of her background that would make sense for her to have that unspecified accent. seems ignorant to ignore the point of that comment, which is saying Mattel is now placing her background with ethnicities that accurately align with her place of origin instead of being like 'have a ice girl ooo unspecified vaguely Eastern European accent ooo but she is from the Himalayas we got all this information from Western fearmongering on immigrants oo'
@@ravenglebsky9404 please go ahead and watch the original animated series and tell me what accent she's got other than the studio-vague "Eastern Europe or whatever" heavily Russian-esque accent. They're not generalising Eastern Europe, they're being accurate to how the studio made her. They didn't pick a specific accent, they just went "eh its all the same"
@@ravenglebsky9404 mattel didn't CHOOSE one accent. thats what im saying. they generalized it and didnt specify. people say its kind of russian but not quite. abbey is from the himalayas so shouldnt be russian anyway.
I like Abby’s doll design but I’m not a fan of her in her show design. I think she looks too soft in her show design. She could have been a great example for a more muscular body type in women.
Out of all the modern redesigns, I think they did a fantastic job with Abby. She is literally perfect I can’t wait for her doll to be released.
I think most of the 'ethnical' characters are given glowup cuz let's be real here, the OG designs and characteristics are pretty much just iffy.
I think she lacks white color in her clothes. Drop the purple.
Yes abby is super cute! I love her new look
Yeah, that’s the one I’m most happy with, cause it looks cute.
I just bought my 6 year old an Abby doll and I'm really excited for her to open it in a couple of weeks.
Body diversity doesn’t begin and end with straight size vs plus size. I think it would be cool for the dolls to have varied muscularity, chest/hip sizes, etc. but also there’s the issue of mixing and matching different characters’ clothing that could be disrupted if you make their bodies too varied
THISS! Frankie being taller is nice to see! clawdeen having a thin body is nice, draculara having a pear shaped body is nice, and people keep mistaking Cleo as “plus size” or “curvy” but she’s more of an hourglass shape! and now abbey has a similar body sculpt as draculara but she’s taller than everyone else! I am hoping for Iris’s body to actually be plus size since we are seeing more of her and even in the youtube series which are doll accurate!
I get wym with the lack of mix and matching if this becomes a thing, but i think that may already be starting? Abbey's noticably taller and wider with broad shoulders, I wonder how much she can fit without stressing the seams. Either way, it'd be cool to get a genuine +size doll with Iris :)
Nobody switches clothes tbh
@@daisyblueofficial Kids mix and match their dolls clothes, you know, the intended audience for these toys.
@@daisyblueofficial i would always mix match my dolls’ clothing 🥲
you might've made this video before this was released but i noticed you didn't mention the fact that g3 twyla is now autistic!! :) and it isn't just implied either, she full on says "i am autistic" in her introductory episode which i absolutely loved. throughout the episode she shows sensory sensitivity, fidgeting, stimming etc. as an autistic person, i honestly love this take on twyla. it doesn't feel forced or that being autistic is her only character trait at all which is very refreshing. also the other characters respect her boundaries and understand her which will honestly really help non-autistic kids to do the same. and the fact they explicitly had her say she's autistic is great, i'm tired of the word autistic or autism being used as an insult or a bad word. also they did it during autism awareness month, neat! :)
Yeah, as an autistic doll artist and collector I was a little sad that Izzzy didn't mention it. I was so happy when she was released and even voiced by an autistic voice actor is amazing! And as a nonbinary fem presenting person myself I love how they have made g3 frankie nonbinary too!
I love this man twyla was always a favorite of mine so her being positive autistic rep in g3 is such a fun way to add representation to a show that's been going on for 13 years now!! I adore her even more now lol
@@xinvader_iceexwait what!? Frankie being enby just makes my day, I am also an enby so my favorite of the core crew being enby made me very happy!!
They actually had the character say "I'm Autistic" _out loud?!_ I absolutely need to give this show a try now! Even Dead End: Paranormal Park hasn't had their Autistic character who is literally based on the creator's experiences as an Autistic person say the word out loud. This is awesome!
@@lalas181 I've only seen a few episodes but tbh the show is pretty good imo :) Its very cute but you need to go in with the fact its for children in mind because it is pretty obvious, but even then I think its still pretty fun if you're invested in the characters :)
I really miss the gothic aesthetic of the original, but I do appreciate how they've made the cast look more like actual teenagers than young adults.
To be fair, teenagers are young adults in HS
@@dominicstatuto8482 Ehhhh...
I'm referring more to 20 y/os.
@@dominicstatuto8482 16-17 year olds are minors, NOT young adults
@@soyjoyy 18-19 are teenagers and are considered young adults. thats all I was saying.
i think you're blinded by nostalgia- original monster high was majorly just alternative fashion-- elissabat was probably the only closest thing to "gothic fashion". i love gen 1, but the majority of it was not goth.
36:55 I think there’s a larger issue with Lagoona no longer being Australian than just ‘people want the old Lagoona back’- in some of the 3d movies and parts of the show, Lagoona was implied to be representation for Aboriginal Australians, with her love interest, Gills parents not wanting to accept her because she’s a ‘Salt Water’ (or Fresh Water, I don’t remember which) sea monster instead of the more ‘common’ opposite and thus is viewed as lesser. Very basic but still similar to how Aboriginal people in Australia are treated as lesser today. Some people also argue that her curly hair is reminiscent of Aboriginal hair but obviously I’m not expert on that. Representation for Indigenous Australian people is next to absolutely zero in media, let alone in Australia itself. So to me at least it IS quite disappointing to see Lagoona no longer be Aussie. Obviously the original rep wasn’t the best and was very watered down (no pun intended) but I wish they could’ve done a better job on it with the remake instead
Thank you. It really grossed me out how they downplayed and skipped over the lagoona race swap just because “funny accent” like be so serious…
This is a headcanon though, there's not much besides hair texture in lagoonas design that alludes to her being actually aboriginal. In fact I'd assume they based her on a typical white Australian girl. So I don't think it's horrible that they'd make her an ACTUAL person of colour. Like I'm upset they didn't just make her actually aboriginal but at least she's non ambiguously poc now
Genuinely, although lagoona wasnt the best australian representation, as an australian kid i thought it was so cool that there was a monster that was like me and i grew up it just meant more and more to me. Really miss the old lagoona. Also i miss her being blue and having webbed hands bro whyd that change
It would be great if she was indigenous Australian. But she looks more like a white blonde Australian. Though lots of indigenous people do look white because indigenous genes are recessive.
@@altalt479yeah but like, the entirety of this reboot is about changing the characters. Lagoona’s Latina in g3, which I don’t mind, but also speaking as an Australian I agree it would’ve been amazing if they could’ve gone further with her original character and made her aboriginal. The story between her and gill in the web series wasn’t able to get much light because the episodes were so short and didn’t really focus on specific plots for a long time (unless you count Cleo’s cheerleading episodes) but I love the idea of them being a mixed race couple because they come from different waters, that’s so cool.
Don’t get me wrong, from what I’ve seen of the show I love everything about it. But I think it’s absolutely a missed opportunity. Would’ve been nice to have an aboriginal actor voice her if they were able to do that as well
I think it’s quite upsetting to see a lot of the African American features taken away from Clawdeen, and I was wondering if it was going to be brought up. The lighter and less textured hair is a killer.
Additionally, it was played off as a joke in the video, but I am also saddened that Lagoona is no longer Australian. I understand it is important for Latina representation, but there was an amazing opportunity for Lagoona to be an Aboriginal Australian woman. Australian culture is something I’ve never seen explored in a doll line or nearly any pop media before, and there are many stories and cultural myths that could have been explored for her. Growing up as an Australian, I was so surprised and happy to see an Australian doll… I couldn’t imagine how great it could have been for her to be Aboriginal as well, as it’s a part of Australia in media that is always ignored
I wholeheartedly agree!! ❤
I agree with the sentiments and agree that Aboriginal and Torres Strait stories should be showcased in MH.
But there’s been rampant cases of fanon going wild and it’s actually a blessing that Lagoona wasn’t aboriginal.
It would be dope as hell if they created an Aboriginal Australian character inspired by an indigenous mythological creature like the bunyip (which funnily enough is also a water-based creature like Lagoona!)
Less... Textured hair? Clawdeen had 0 dolls with textured hair in g1
Of course, because she's half Mexican now.
i think my only real gripe is i wish they embraced the edge, as mentioned in the video, more they were gothy and weird and it’s what made me fall in love with them. the aesthetic is what drew me in. i feel like if they keep to their palettes, maybe tone them to the darker colour, i feel like it will be great. i wish they did have the extreme heels personally because i love that bizarre extreme. otherwise, the other steps are in such a great direction. i feel like the spirit of the g1s is almost there but not fully embraced just yet
We are in the times when everyone wants big booba goth gf and everyone embraces being unique with such a wide variety of goth subcultures. I would personaly appreciate if there was another character like robecca but more into cybergoth vibe too! I think that would look cool, addint the contrast of neon colours with black. Also goth subculture itself has such a wide variety to chose from. Not to forget emo, punk, alt, metalhead fashion. Nowadays its more common than ever and id appreciate some characters to be bit more into that spectrum. Personaly its what i loved on gen 1 clawdeen. With the strap boots, earrings and leather jacket, she would be the coolest, especially considering her personality. She would be gorgeous as a more punk character. The only one sticking to that is draculaura which is bit of a shame, although i very very much appeciate her pointy bangs. Saw that on so many goth girls and always loved this hairstyle dearly.
Personaly i really hate Lagoona and Ghoulia in gen 3, but thats just my personal take i assume. Toralei is fine. Only gripe i have with frankie is the shirt, but other than that this gen is better than what i expected. The art for Abbey terrified me and i hated it, but the doll loos actually great.
I agree. I have never liked neon, and holographic clothing has always been a 50/50 for me so the new fashion choices really really bother me. I understand that this show is made for preteens, but the fashion doesn't make sense to me. G1 was also made for preteens, but the characters themselves were meant to be highschoolers and wore what was trending among teens. That has been completely thrown out the window with G3. None of what they wear is trending among teens. Not even a little bit. The whole show just seems to be more in line with late elementary/middle school and I wish they had just committed to that. If they had just changed the setting and canon ages to middle school, it would all make sense.
I feel like they could maybe try different type of fashions.
Not just gothic or alt but i would love to see just different type of asthetics. J fashion as unique styles but while i know they might not go as hard with this.
It would be fun to make them go with a lolita fashion style, fairykei or decorakei.
I know why they may not do it but having outfits inspired by those styles could be fun. I would love to see it.
The discourse around Lagoona no longer being Australian is a bit deeper than simply "I liked her as Australian." Because of the freshwater vs saltwater debacle in Lagoona and Gill's relationship in G1, some people interpreted Lagoona as being aboriginal-coded and the freshwater/seawater storyline as representing racism. Plus there was the line in her G3 song describing herself as "spicy," which a lot of latinos have pointed out is a stereotype. Hopefully as G3 progresses, the writers will be more careful to avoid those sorts of things, and maybe a new aboriginal character can be added to the cast!
THANK.
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Y’all are reaching so hard
@@crushcan5157 I was just adding context to what the Twitter people said, other than describing a Latina character as "spicy" I don't have any problems with the new Lagoona.
@@richiepilled I get the context and I definitely think the spicy thing is real but everyone saying she’s aboriginal coded is such a far reach over the salt water to fresh water discrimination people are acting like they removed her identity or something when monster high gen 1 was too scared to even make clawdeen a lesbian I highly doubt they cared or even thought about aboriginals
Welp that adds mildly horrifying implications to what happened to her in 13 wishes
I stand by thinking how the dolls should have all been based off of different fasion styles/aesthetics. Alternative fashion has so many sub genres, and making dolls based off of these would be really cool! G3 do have different looks but I kind of wish they had gone full out with it, exploring some more fashion movements and cultures in their outfits! I would have loved that soo much!
YOU GET IT
UR SO RIGHTTT the fashion is not fashioning
My biggest, BIGGEST problem with Gen 3 is that Ghoulia used to be really good representation for disabled/mute/selectively mute people. I mean OK, some people might not like having a literal monster represent their disability, but the entire franchise is monster, so you might as well represent disabilities (like Frankie's limbs!). Saying this as a very disabled person, btw. When my illnesses flare up, I become partially mute and clumsy myself, so I related to Ghoulia. She's really lost that uniqueness to her.
Update: OK so she spoke another language but she still understood English perfectly and went to school in English? I feel like not being able to speak English despite understanding and writing in it fully sounds like a case of either selective mutism or literally because she physically could only speak zombie, which is still a mutism related disability.
And despite being mute she was never portrayed as stupid, the opposite actually, she was super smart. She was never the butt of the joke or bullied for being mute so it was definitely a positive representation. I only go mute when I'm very stressed so I can't fully relate but I still really liked her, I did see a lot of myself in her :(
I love g3 but i really wish they gave Ghoulia more attention, both design and character wise :(
Yeah, agree. I just can’t get behind new Ghoulia as is. Looks and personality aren’t vibing with me yet. Like, I really hope they *flesh* out her character more. Hehe.
Ghoulia was never meant to be representation for the mute/selectively mute however.
She spoke all the time, but spoke in Zombie, another language.
Cleo spoke Zombie and actively talked with Ghoulia. She was never mute or selectively mute.
The G3 Ghoulia is actually disability rep, and states that Zombies are said to be "slow" and struggle to move as fast as other monsters mentally and physically, but Ghoulia is determined to put this stereotype to rest and uses a skateboard to move around at the same speed as other monsters, and studies to ace her classes as well as join a lot of clubs. She is representation for mobility issues, developmental delays, and processing disorders now, and it's so important to recognize that she is actual rep now.
(I am autistic and go nonverbal as well as have processing disorders)
Ghoulia was never mute, she just spoke another language
A few things about the Twyla doll: I got her recently and her hands arent NEARLY that dark. The prototype doll must have had different hands, because they are much less jarring in real life. Also she has 2 really cute details: on her shoes there are windows with little curtains and on the bottoms there is an image of her and her bunny. And on her ears theyre are tiny molded spiderwebs (shes actually one of my favorites😊)
completely agree
@@feykingjulian shes so sweet ❤ and i love that her eyes glow in the dark
@@chattycatty3336 ah me too!! her eyes are so cool. i love that i can pose her stimming with her bracelet or enjoying her tea or book... she's so fun to pose and bring around with you.
I definitely need to get her.
@@feykingjulian totally agree! I even painted her accessories so its even more fun (honestly one of my favorite things to do. Ive painted frankies to ☺)
My biggest issues have to be Toralei and Clawdeen. I absolutely adore Toralei and seeing her being robbed of her cute bob bothers me so much. Her receiving longer hair is just as upsetting to me as Mattel taking away Howleens super edgy and cool curly mohawk (as already mentioned), as short haired dolls are just super rare! Her bob was absolutely iconic and for some reason ONLY her doll as long hair while her hair is short in the show????? Like I get long hair is better suited for playline dolls but it's not like there aren't 109 different dolls with long hair to choose from instead. Clawdeen is an entire different issue, which has been discussed to death already. I fully understand every aspect of the dissatisfaction. Another huge issue is the distribution of the dolls. I live in Europe, Germany to be exact and the dolls have not been seen anywhere in stores and even online they're not available. It's frustrating to see the US get Target exclusive releases and all the dolls while most of the globe has no easy way of even ordering them.
Monster high was made in America so of course it's going to get US Target exclusive releases before other countries they do the exact same with their stuff in different countries and America has to wait so get over it.
@@Charlotte226 you dont get it. The og dolls were available everywhere here. But they changed that with the new ones
they gave her longer hair in the doll form because it would sell better since kids can brush and style it, since the core dolls will always be in store I think they'll start making short hair dolls of her soon, they want to play it safe I guess :')
@@paula.cosplaythe usa is on the verge of a recession(or in a recession depending on who is asked) so they can't afford to take risks. Og monster high came out when people had more ability to spend money so expiration was more profitable.
I might just cut her hair if I get one lol.
Rebecca steam was my fav from G1. I haven’t seen any mention of her in G3 but I am scared of how they’re going to redesign her. As a kid I loved her steampunk emo vibe and her hair was always my favorite.
They’re bringing back Venus so I’m kind of expecting to see Rochelle and Rebecca also make a return since they’re a trio
Robecca was my favourite too! I was super into steampunk as a kid and I instantly fell in love with her when I saw the doll. I could never get my hands on one however (they were pretty expensive and I was entering the age of "dolls are for little kids").
Edit: I hope they release her for G3, and I hope it's good... kinda scared as well.
They may have her as a fang vote doll?
the problem with lagoona isn’t that she’s not australian anymore- it’s that her heavily implied aboriginal / polynesian origins were erased in favor of the new g3 character. i’m samoan, and polynesian representation in media is little to none… lagoona was a character i grew up with-and even if i didn’t know at the time, the hope of her redesign resembling or at least acknowledging SOME of what her g1 laid down was completely diminished by her new doll & lore. i don’t hate g3 lagoona by any means, but it’s a disservice to dismiss her g1 cultural influences
and her voice actor is a whole separate issue, like they should’ve gotten an indigenous person to provide her voice in the first place
Exactly, Lagoona was the only Australian character that I knew of as a kid (I didn't watch the wiggles or don't remember doing so since I was likely very young if I did). While kids have things like Bluey now, I don't think I've seen any First Nations people represented in it besides maybe one. It would be so amazing to see more characters like that, especially because of the extreme rates of discrimination that occurs today against them.
_Was_ she implied to be aboriginal/Polynesian? I'm nowhere near the Monster High fandom, but she sounds like...well, she's too blue to be a white Australian, but you know what I mean.
Where was she implied to be aboriginal?
@@demetriam2408 Hey just letting you know that 'Aboriginals' is not the right term, is offensive, and shouldn't be used unless you're an Aboriginal person. Better terms are; Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people, First Nations people or First peoples.
I am honestly so devastated that I didn't buy the generation 1 dolls back in the day when I had the chance. I always loved them and thought they were so cool and beautiful but the whole craze was a little after my time and I couldn't justify buying dolls for myself at that time. Now I am kicking myself for not just getting them!! Awesome video as always
This is exactly how I feel about Monster High and especially Ever After High. I remember wanting them so bad but I just couldn’t justify it on my broke college student budget. Now I’m kicking myself because I probably could have made a profit if I ever wanted to sell them because they are so rare now.
I wish I had them but I was a kid at the time and they were too expensive for my parents to buy for me:(
Though Draculaura is still considerably less goth overall (far too bright of clothing, that's the only real issue here) They did make one change to her design that I think is more goth than her previous design, and the heart detail on her cheek. Making it smaller and black reminds me Aurelio Voltaire, a fairly popular goth/dark cabaret artist who has the same detail on his cheek.
It reminds me of Electra Heart from Marina and the Diamonds
Omg I can't believe that I just saw another Voltaire fan!!
@@ATLACEDES He truly is one of the greatest artists of our time.
@@LonelyAssassin96 You're so right. From his songs to his style, he is just amazing...
I really love the reboot, the only thing I really dislike and hate about it above everything else is that Mattel keeps using polypropylene for the hair, and will continue to use it more and more. Polypropylene is the cheapest hair material you can get, on top of that it can DISINTEGRATE on its own. Meaning Mattel is forcing us to pay a premium for not only the cheapest materials, but something that will disintegrate over time. It's fucked up like honestly.
does it mean the dolls will have bald spots after a few years?
@@pupa_hye it will, unfortunately. There's treated polypropylene, (the thing that the base Cleo has), and there's untreated polypropylene. Treated polypropylene should last a bit longer, and with today's doll hair technology the polypropylene in general should last a tiny bit longer, but that hair is going to go no matter what. In about 10 to 15 years time depending on different things like the environment and how good the hair is and what not, it's going to start falling out of the head. It's going to disintegrate no matter what you do, that's why a lot of people that collect dolls actually reroot the doll hair.
The best you can do is just to make sure the hair is clean and appreciate the doll while you can. Or you can start investing in buying synthetic doll hair like Saran and learning how to re-root a doll, but we should not be doing Mattel's job for them. A moment of silence for all the Cleos and Clawdeens that are going to be bald come a decade-and-a-halfs time.
Yeah, ever since they lost big Disney bucks the materials got really cheap
Doll alopecia 💀
@@theJeidDragon Dollopecia...
To answer why Frankie is blue/missing neckbolts, the original series was done in collaboration with Universal, who has the right to the classic monster looks. Universal is... strict about this to say the least, especially with Frankenstein's monster. So, when they redid the design, they had to make changes to satisfy the rules.
I think that my big issue with G3 is that it doesn’t feel as “counterculture” anymore. And god I know that sounds silly as fuck lol, like I know G1 wasn’t exactly counterculture either, but as a kid who actively got mocked for dressing the way some of these dolls dressed, it felt validating to see them. It also showcased different alt styles in really cool ways. The new designs don’t feel alt at all. You can scroll tiktok for like 5 minutes and see many people dressed the way these dolls are. I know partly that’s because generally there’s a lot more acceptance of alt styles in the modern day, but there are still alt subcultures they could have drawn more from.
As someone who has no nostalgia or experience with the franchise and just watched because I love this channel, it's kind of surprising to me how much of the discourse around comparing G1 to G3 seems to just boil down to "It's different than what I grew up with so I don't like it" when I feel like that's kind of the point of new generations in general. Not to say that new dolls can't be for old fans, but I feel like those old fans kind of tend to skim over the fact that they're not the target market and the current generation that is the target is a lot different than when we were growing up. From a pure aesthetic standpoint during the comparison part of the video there was only really one doll I didn't think looked good of the new G3. Just some thoughts from someone who has no real horse in the Monster High race, really enjoyed the video though!
This!! I grew up loving gen 1 (missing gen 2) and now loving gen 3 and tbh the new look is super cute and stylized but it's better to just take it as it's own thing than to try and find the differences to complain. The only points I dont like in the differences are more so within the show (like ghoulia not speaking in grunts/moans) because they had points of representation that could still be utilized. But the dolls themselves, gen 1 and 3, are gorgeous in their own ways!
@@hopsymopsy8352 i agree! for me it took a while to get used to several dolls, especially ghoulia, but i've come to respect it as its own entity and now i really love the dolls (ghoulia's my current fav lol)
I'm in the same boat honestly. I was in highschool and then college when Monster High was at its peak, so while I watched a few of the episodes on youtube, I never got into the fandom. I think most of these new dolls are very well done when you're looking at them on their own merits. Heck I'm honestly tempted to get my own Draculara for the first time.
This is how I feel lol, I was not at all into Monster High as a kid so I guess I can't say much, but I actually LOVE these new designs like. A lot. I legit want to get some. (The only design I dislike is Ghoulia.)
you're an anime fan so your opinion does not fucking matter
With the whole lagoona thing, I personally think (and a few others have suggested this) that she should’ve been Aboriginal Australian. For one, it keeps her being Australian and also helps bring representation for a minority of people who don’t see a lot of themselves in media.
honestly my only real issue with the new dolls is that they’ve completely erased draculauras balkan identity, im part romanian & it was lowk rlly upsetting to see that they just erased her heritage & culture like that it happens a lot within western media to balkan characters like there’s literally 0 representation for us out there which is why i loved draculaura so much as a kid bc she was romanian like me 😭
omg same! i emigrated from romania when i was 4 and absolutely none of my peers knew where romania was and i felt so self conscious, it's a real bummer they changed that up. ik asian rep is important and i don't have a problem with it but draculaura is like the only character from really any western media i know of that's romanian so i kind of wish they kept that.
I actually love Cleo’s redesign ngl…idk why but it looks cool
I AGREE! she looks older and mature in a rich way
I think she looks much more wealthy. She definitely gives a “I’m richer than you” vibe, but without making her very Regina George “mean girl.” I can’t speak much of her new personality, I’ve only seen clips of the show.
Agred she's so pretty
@@ssnekkyI loved her as a mean girl though
I love her new design, it's a lot more refined and elegant imo
some new representation that i’m over the moon about in g3 is twyla being autistic. as an autistic person who had a special interest in monster high as a child, it’s a delight to see an openly autistic character who is celebrated for her differences in line with the franchise’s overall message. i can’t explain how important it is that she says “i’m autistic” straight up rather than it just being implied. that’s the sort of representation that would have been so meaningful to me as a child, and i’m so happy that a new generation is going to have that.
(she’s also voiced by kayla cromer, the first ever autistic actor to play an autistic main character in a tv show [everything’s gonna be ok]!)
WAIT for real???? omg i just watch the clip that she just say shes autistic on the series, imma gonna cry omg this is so amazing, im just really really happy, the way its represented its actually so good, the impact of she saying 'i am autistic' and explaining that loud noises bothers her, in a kids show, in such a simple way. just ... this just make me so SO happy right now, this made my day seriously
Actually I think Chloe Hayden was the first autistic actor to play an autistic character in a tv show (the show is called heartbreak high) unless your just talking about animated tv shows.
@@Tundrea3 everything’s gonna be ok came out in 2020, whereas heartbreak high came out in 2022. chloe hayden is still listed as one of the first though. :)
Yes!! That's my absolute favorite change. It makes me feel so seen and I really wish younger me had this generation!!
I saw that clip, it also made me so happy to see her rounded face, and seeing her stim fricking almost made me cry.
As a non-binary fan I’ve also been really irritated by people saying Frankie doesn’t look “androgynous” enough.. totally missing the point of representation and expecting them to be a stereotype. N-B people can be fem and that just means they’re fashionable
And i’m pretty sure them being non-binary has more to do with the fact they’re an agglomeration of different people, of different genders, so their look doesn’t really have much to do with it.
@@Lunamine they/them please /nm
saying she must wear androgynous clothes because she is nonbinary is such a secretly right-winger thing to say. "You're a guy so you can't wear make-up, you're a girl so you can't wear pants!"
If anything, we are apes and we should not wear clothes!!! But we evolved past that. So, why are we gendering clothes?
Isn't that basically like complaining about a cisgender woman wearing pants and a t-shirt instead of a dress? Who cares? Let people wear whatever they want.
On the contrary, it also comes off as lazy representation. Production team thought "hm, we don't have anybody for the non-binary checkbox yet? Ohh, what if we take the Frankensteins monster, after all they're made up of different body parts anyways" (which plays into the "queer/neurodivergent characters being non-human"-stereotype, which still applies to Frankie due to being "created" rather than "born" like most other monsters) and had to do nothing else except use different pronouns.
Personally, I wouldn't even want Frankie to be more androgynous. I would've wanted a cool younger sibling that's nonbinary and more visible as such. The theory of Frankensteins monsters being nb is not bad itself, it's just weird if you apply it to a character that has never had any gender-related issues prior to that.
Idk man, I know Draculaura isn't really plus sized, but when I saw her new body, I instantly wanted her. I felt so much more drawn to her for having wider hips and curves, I would have loved seeing a body type like that on my dolls when i was a kid.
I love my Draculaura, and I even bought her skulltamite secrets outfit, because it felt more goth than her g3 release one
Abby is also curvy and maybe plus size now!
Yeah, they just gave her a dumpy. I don't like how they changed her from Dracula's adopted daughter to his biological daughter, though. What does Mattel have against adoption?
I hate it, she's chonk now and needs the gym
@@mahi93162 Well, now Catty is -actually- plus-sized lol
This is just my opinion, but I think a lot of people making the criticisms about g3 not being "alt" enough aren't really taking context into consideration.
During the late 2000s and early 2010s alternative styles were far more niche, so when Monster High came out it was not only able to corner such a market other dolls hadn't yet, but introduce a new generation to those styles!
But as seen with g3's "tiktok" fashion, alt fashion is far more mainstream than it used to be. Mattel simply can't replicate the effect the original dolls had on the public as a result, so it makes sense they'd try a different target audience this time around.
My main takeaway is that due to that, whether you like g1 or g3 better really just has to do with what youd personally be looking for in that kind of doll line. Neither should be seen as objectively "better" or "worse" than the other, because they're clearly going for different things. If the fanbase could just accept that I think the lovers of both generations (especially g1 fans) would come across as far less hostile.
What’s wrong with debating about taste? It’s boring to go “wow everyone’s opinion is so equally valid, let’s not discuss anything ever”. G1 is better than G3 imo for lots of reasons.
@@sniedendepoes Because debating about taste won't go anywhere.
@@mr.goldfish1530 It does go somewhere, I’ve found a lot of appreciation for the things that I never understood before. It’s also just fun as long as it doesn’t get too heated, though even that has it’s fun bits.
@@sniedendepoes let's be honest, most people just can't debate about taste without going too heated 🙃
Except I still don't see that many goths, emo, or scene kids around and the new alt fashion just makes people look like they got dressed in the dark.
Just wanted to point out a few inaccuracies I personally didn't see anyone else mention. Lagoona still has her arm fins, they are just under her long sleeve shirt. I was playing around with my doll and surprised to notice they are indeed there!
Secondly, Toralei, Ghoulia, and Deuce were not all Target exclusives, only Ghoulia is. Toralei is a Walmart exclusive and Deuce is an Amazon exclusive.
If we are being real, if these dolls came out right now not under the Monster high name the dolls community would be flipping out, and loving it. I really don’t think it deserves the hate it is getting at all :/
I agree!
I think the only thing that is disappointing design worse is now they usually changed the cool skin colors. Although I imagine they went with more bold clothes so it leveled out design worse to change the skin
Ehh, I sort of agree- I mean, I get what you are saying, but I'm not too sure if it applies; a lot of people can recognise that these are good dolls, but they might not see them as good MONSTER HIGH dolls. I think it sort of comes with the territory when a series is rebooted, but the new dolls just aren't what people are wanting to see from Monster High franchise and not how people enjoy seeing their favourite characters represented.
All the hate I’ve seen is comparisons to past generations’ designs. In terms of that, that hate could be viewed as warranted. I agree that if these dolls came out now they’d be doing way better, but saying the hate isn’t warranted doesn’t make sense.
@@redcapmilk exactly 💯
One thing I love about Frankie's doll is that they come with a vest that doubles as a binder! And you can take it on and off for more masc or femme looks. As an enby myself, I was curious how the makers would go about designing a nonbinary body. No matter how they did it, it would exclude body types. But I think using the clothing to give choice to the presentation was a good move
*she
@@everythingslayer_888 *they
@everythingslayer _ you're aware Frankie is not a real person and thus cannot be offended by your Le Epic Own, right. Who has their panties in a knot about pronouns, exactly?
I was wondering if they would implement some kind of feature like that on Frankie. Given that they’re a Frankenstein’s monster I was imagining something along the lines of switching out Frankie’s chest and hips to look more feminine or masculine
@@morganorwhatever I know this isnt the original point but being able to have maybe other arms or legs and other things to swap out on frankie would be so cool- like imagine if you could have different versions of their prosthetic leg with different designs you could switch between
As an avid OG fan of G1, this is my "hot take" on G3: I wish instead of, "revamping characters for a modern audience," that they'd just make new ones. Explore new monsters, legends and ghouls from different cultures instead of changing the monsters we all grew up with.
Highly agree, I’m bisexual and latina, but I honestly couldn’t care less about these lazy changes.
Wanna hear new stories, get a full meal instead of confirming myself with these crumbs.
They did that with G2 though and no one liked it
But what monsters would they explore now? Didn't they go through most of them with G1 and G2? Idk, I haven't been following up with it all, I've just started collecting the G3 dolls a few months ago, but I thought they'd gone through A LOT of legends and monsters with the first two Gen
THANK YOU!
Boo hoo, cry me a fucking river. Reboots have always been a thing, yet you're throwing a fit because of the new diversity.
When the original monster high dolls were released I was at an age where I wasn't interested in dolls so I didn't grow up with these and lack the nostalgia. I just wanna say that I love Draculaura's color scheme and fashion style in both the original series and the third generation. Absolutely iconic.
If I’m like 100% honest, I gotta say that I love her face now more, draculaura is like a super sweet girl and it shows more on her new doll now than on the old one, she looked a bit mean (only a tiny bit)
Same! I had jjjjust aged out of dolls but always thought they were cool. I’m really excited to own a lot of the G3 dolls and I love them. I’d love to grab the G1 dolls. But I love my new Lagoona.
Same, it was little after I stopped playing with dolls but I wanted them so bad as a collector. Thank God I didn't get them because they would be collecting dust.
Frankie being nonbinary makes SO much sense. They literally are the child of Frankenstein's monster, a being made of parts of several different people, and therefore not entirely one gender. To me, Frankie being nonbinary makes as much sense as a detail as them having two different colored eyes or stiches. It fits their monster type perfectly and makes nonbinary people like me feel included
I love her new look buuut i miss her mint green skin tho, the blue is nice and just wish they would have keep that shade of green for another doll like Gholia but now she is also blue…
It doesn't make sense since Frankie is clearly made from female parts, much like how Frankenstein's monster is clearly male. And considering it's just a fad, it's pretty dumb to make a fictional character non-binary.
@lain iwakura even tho their body shape is feminine (therefore probably has limbs and torso and such from feminine bodies) their brain or their organs or any numerous or parts could be from masculine bodies.
Other cultures have had nonbinary genders for centuries, like Polynesian and Native American cultures, so nonbinary genders aren't new and aren't going anywhere. It just seems new because more people are hearing about it and therefore more people are able to look within themselves to examine their gender. There are numerous studies that show being trans is real.
Frankie isn't the child of the Frankenstein's monster in G3 tho
I was going to comment something similar but I’m glad I found yours, because I could not have put it any better ❤️
I can’t believe they gave Frankie blue hair and pronouns.
“I” is a pronoun, furry 💀💀
@@starsneptunexx my comment was so very much a joke
@@starsneptunexxthey’re joking🙄
@@starsneptunexxit’s a copypasta lmao
Her hair looks horrible in My opinion ngl
So mad at what they did to Clawdeen. My girl deserves a beautiful mane of brown hair and they gave her a toned down white and pink look- honestly I’m not living for it
Ahhh I'm a 3d modeler and I got to work on those music videos. Long time fan of yours and it was surreal to see screenshots of art I worked on on your channel. So fun! Thank you for your videos! I'm enjoying gen 3 a lot, but I likely have a little bias going into it.
OMG amazing job!! I've been obsessed with the style of the animation since the first one and! It's SO fun and beautiful 😍
ohhh hell yeah!! yeah the animation was so cool for those and really felt like a kid playing with dolls, or what they'd imagine the dolls moving around would look like. super cool
honestly, as someone who isn't really concerned with gender stuff and labels for themselves, I still felt represented by Frankie to a degree that I haven't been before. There's something about them outwardly expressing being nb and yet still dressing in more feminine outfits that really resonated with how I percieve myself and my own gender. I'm a firm believer that all clothes are unisex and I'm glad to see a character from my childhood now represent the same idea
Hey Izzy u CAN actually take lagoonas leg fins off! You just slide them a little up and out and the middle peg thingey it turned downward so they dont fall off as often!
I was definitely more into Ever After High as a franchise as I found the story and characters more interesting but I still really appreciated the style and design details of Monster High. It's a shame they lost the bold alternative looks the original line had but at the same time fashion trends also change over time so sticking too close to the originals might have made them feel dated to a younger demographic.
I also preferred Ever After High! It's story was too good to be bound to a doll line tbh
I agree with your take on the fashion, but also if you look at all the MH lines you'll find that G1 loses a lot of it's alt influence pretty quickly into it's run. It's bold fashion, but not necessarily alt. There are exceptions to this ofc, but overall it's not as alt as a lot of people make it out to be
I LOVED eah! It was a favorite and I still go re watch it every once and a while. Honestly it's a shame it ended so soon. I always thought monster high was cool but I was more attached to ever after, despite being more goth punk then fairy tale princess lol.
I really miss the series, I would've loved to see where it ended up had it not been canned. That being said i think thease designs have potential, in the way that we'll get to see how they develop over a new generation :)
Even if their not my beloved ever after, their still something
I love Twyla's redesign actually, especially her personality that is openly talking about sensory issues and other neurodivergent problems... It made me feel way more represented and she is absolutely perfect for the representation in my eyes❤❤❤
Reminds me of that episode of Bluey featuring Jack (also neurodivergent, he has ADHD).
Iirc, she's canonically autistic. I love her Soo much.
I love that twyla is autistic, her portrayal is great with her actually saying it and it not being locked to a tweet saying she is for brownie points. I will always love g3 because it saw me and didnt say I have to look weird or be dumb or have to bend to others, it said that we can still be excepted and loved.
also I really like twyla's new outfit because it looks like something that wouldn't cause over sensory issues but can still be fashionable
I personally really like her redesign! It keeps the same hazy/ethereal qualities of the original, but makes it more, for lack of a better word, psychedelic, rather than nightmarish, and weird trippy dreams can honestly be just as unnerving as nightmares. It’s still a very dreamlike style, and I enjoy it a lot.
I was surprised that Twyla being autistic wasn't brought up in the video
As an autistic girl, sadly, I don’t agree.
I remember my college professor ranting about how bad Twyla's rep was while I was sitting right there feeling *extremely* represented by Twyla, especially her noise sensitivity :'D
with that being said, her top/sweater would definitely give me personally sensory issues (though it's great that some autistic people like it!) cuz I ironically tend to feel trapped by more baggy/oversized tops.
one thing i always hated about the original dolls was the extremely curved backs. i have an original operetta (frights camera action) and i swear i could use her back to draw a circle if i turned her a few times. the fact that the new ones don’t have debilitating scoliosis is enough for me to like them
i always liked their backs cause mine looks like that LMAOOOOO its not scoliosis or anything which is hilarious, i just have a very arched back
Same!! I was messing with my sirena von boo while watching this and realized her back is literally U shaped!!
They had lordosis! It’s not their fault! Don’t be ableist😤😤😤
When I first saw the new Draculaura I almost cried. I’ve had huge hips my whole life and felt out of place when I was with children at my age. Just the thought that another kid like me can finally find themself in a gorgeous doll makes me happy. She’s not plus-size, she’s just got big hips. And it’s normal. Just like me.
Same 💗💗💗
I was happy too for the same reason. ❤
Like most, I grew up with g1. I had extremely low expectations for g3. And I ended up loving it. I think G3 is amazing, I don’t care what anyone says.
Same! I loved gen 1 lagoona growing up but the pink?!! It's so pretty
@@tux_duhright? I actually hated g3 Lagoona when I first saw her, then I bought her doll and I LOVE IT! Getting to see it in person definitely helped
Sameeee
G3 is the textbook definition of atrocious
@@engeltjie_engelbrecht you’re the textbook definition of salty and stuck in the past
I love the redesigns for one big reason: they look like children and not adults! they're in High School, not College, why did they always look like adults to the point where people were mad that they looked childlike? I love g1 because I grew up with it but taking off the rose tinted glasses and seeing how some fans wish these teenagers were still hot baddies instead of looking their age is mind-rattling. g1 was iconic and legendary, that'll always be true, but I think g3 is gonna do pretty great on its own too :)
Izzzyzzz I just wanted to say thank you for making all of your doll videos. As a trans women, I was never allowed to play with dolls, but after watching all of your doll videos i immediately purchased a g3 draculuara! I’m so happy that you made me realize that’s perfectly okay for me to do. You are really a great youtuber, keep up the good work❤️🏳️⚧️
@Anonymous Don’t care + Ratio🙂
@@Bratzbuyingclotheshy did you comment on your own comment saying you don’t care?
ETA: I’m stupid, I think the comment you were replying to was deleted 🤦♀️ carry on and congrats on the doll!!
@@atypicality2546 awe thank you! nice to receive a little positivity in my day. Hope you have a good one as well :)
I'm so happy for you!! it's absolutely wonderful to see trans joy! Hope you're doing well :D I'm a trans dude and I recently got my first MH doll so I'm shaking ur hand in trans MH fan solidarity
OMG i also just bought a g3 draculaura (skulltimate secrets version) as my first ever doll 😭 its being delivered and i can't wait to get it... im going to cry so much healing my lost childhood. i always thought monster high was so cool but societal pressure stopped me from even allowing myself to really admit it to myself at the time.
Who else just loves Izzzyzzz's content?
ME ALWAYS
not me
i hate her that's why I watch all of her vids through and like them all and fantasize about her talking about topic i think would be interesting
me. i watch all of their videos even when i don’t know much about the topic. i love them!
Izzzy is my favorite TH-camr, as a matter of fact!
lagoona being a deceptively cute psychopath that will absolutely eat you if given the chance is what opened me up a bit more to the new generation.
that and cleo just casually dumping her organs on her desk.
As someone who adored the old dolls and goth vibe, I actually also really love the new generation (as an Aussie though I also can't get most of the dolls yet)! One criticism that kinda bugs me is people saying the ghouls look too young. You look at any G1 character bio and you'll see that most of the characters are around 15. I know a lot of adult collectors loved how mature the dolls looked, I did too, but seeing so many people say they hate how childish they look while completely ignoring the fact that they literally are children just bugs me a bit.
36:43 just a mention on this as an Aussie, a lot of people were upset as First Nations regularly headcanoned her and saw her as First Nations. First Nations people are nearly never represented in media, like ever, so they felt safe and happy with a character they could consider one of their own.
When it was found out she was no longer going to be aussie it upset a lot of First Nation people as they lost the one character they could consider their representation.
Of course it was just a headcanon but it was a popular headcanon that was there as rep that First Nations lacked.
As an nb adult whose first exposure to Monster High was seeing the live action show (movie?) when my nieces were watching it, I was very surprised by Frankie, and immediately fell in love with their style and their quirky demeanor.
They're the main reason I clicked on this video yesterday 😅
As an Australian (the most oppressed minority)
Im happy we dont have a character with a bad accent anymore. It would be really cool if they were to make characters based on some of the creatures actually from australian folklore especially the ones that evolved from myths from various aboriginal nations
I’m hoping you’re being sarcastic when you say Aussies are the most oppressed minority
@@s0up_1223 they're prolly being sarcastic
Yeah G1 Lagoona was a stereotype
@@s0up_1223 yes im being sarcastic
@@s0up_1223 it truly was an obvious joke
I feel like the live action movie that came out recently is what turned me away from the new generation so harshly, but after seeing the new dolls theyve definitely grown on me. The show isnt terrible either. its not the original, but thats okay. I see it as its own thing at this point. Im excited for the Abby doll
While I really don’t like the pastel boxes and miss the goth, punk, scene aesthetic. I do greatly appreciate the efforts toward diversity.
I've been really enjoying G3 so far! Seeing these beloved childhood characters redesigned to fit more contemporary styles is super cool! I'm so excited to see how ghouls like Venus, Robecca and Rochelle translate into the new gen! Also really excited to see the Wearcat Twins in doll form as I love to look of their new designs in the animation! Another great video
as a femme-presenting non binary person frankie having a feminine style is really important to me. anytime a doll line includes a non binary character theyre almost always depicted with short, buzz-cut hair and neutral clothing. obviously its completely fine, a lot of non binary people dress like that, but i think its really important to represent all flavours of non binary, its important to show that we're not just an in-between between female and male. frankie dressing like they do really speaks to me and makes me happy beyond belief, ive never felt represented by a character in regards to my gender so well
RIGHT??? It means so much to me as well!! We are so much more than "splitting the difference," we are a whole broad range of identities who encompass a whole broad range of styles. The rep is more important to me than I can describe :")
Can you please provide examples of more androgynous nb characters in doll lines? I haven't seen that trend, that's why I think that choosing a more femme look for a doll is a safer option, but I confess, I don't follow the... uh... dollsphere much, so I will appreciate your response.
@@sanxxxx so you're enbyphobic lol
@@sanxxxx obviously you're an ass who doesn't care about accuracy but specifying "straight girl" when the commenter didn't mention their attraction in any way. Lol. Lmao
@@sanxxxx the way these feminine nb girls are only nb bc they like being feminine but dislike the experiences that come with being female..... very sad.....
I would like to mention that when I was younger I had a room filled with dolls and most of them was Monster High thank you for your time
As someone who grew up with the original dolls from a young age and regretted giving them away as a teenager, gotta say I love all the changes appearance-wise. Other than Ghoulia's unfortunately. I do wish they hadn't broken Cleo and Deuce up since they were an amazing relationship that wasn't super unhealthy and they genuinely cared for each other, but Frankie and her could be adorable too.
Honestly I really love G3s designs. Like I respect that others don't like 'em, but I think they're very charming and look more like modern teenagers. I feel that it's possible too many people are caught up in their nostalgia about the franchise that they don't like change. All the monster high dolls of G1 dressed like teens in the late 2000s to early 2010s. G3 monster high girls just dress like 2020 teens. I think it's cute.
As and Australian let me just say……..there aren’t a lot of us in main stream americanised media. Lagoona was the only Australian character in any American show I can remember growing up (we only really had British or American shows here). I grew up by the beach swimming on the Great Barrier Reef and I related to lagoona so damn much. She was the first toy I ever bought for myself as a child. She is the reason my favourite colours were blue and yellow when I was little. She was the only character that ever sounded even remotely like me (the accent was so bad oml but I lived for it)
I felt like she was my character, she was my literal obsession……….so when g3 hit I felt my childhood kinda die in a way. Idk, she isn’t like me anymore. My relation to her and familiarity I had with the character is gone. She isn’t Australian, she isn’t blue and yellow, she doesn’t live in the Great Barrier Reef……kinda depresso.
I'm Latina! I honestly would prefer it if Lagoona was half-aboriginal aussie and half-Latina, keeping the best of both worlds. Like maybe have her be born in Honduras and live in Australia, or the opposite. I wish they kept her curly hair and maybe her skin tone. I really don't understand why they changed that 😭
Also they immediately stereotyped her in her song which...great job guys...
hey, at least you had aur naur cleor
@@sielmasaur naurrrrr
I am Hungarian. And we are exceedingly sparsely represented in media. So such a likeable character (Draculaura) being Hungarian was an extremely heartwarming aspect to me, until they altered her nationality....
It was seriously needed. Gen3 does a great job in fixing what was lacking or untreated in the OG MH lore (relationships with humans, locations…)
Unpopular opinion : but even though Clawdeen was sporty AND had a passion for fashion in Gen1. I wished it was kept because it was a really lovable side of her character.
(And I wished Abbey kept her pink highlights in her hair, it was everything. Just details.)
Not the most popular opinion, but I wish they had made new characters instead of reusing the old ones. I know there are many reasons why they didn't but, it would've made sense since they were going to change so much anyways. Also I'd like the idea of the original cast being alumni and being their parents who make cameos and help out the new gen of ghouls. Besides that though G3 has definitely grown on me.
Why not reuse the old characters? It's a reboot, the target audience wouldn't be that familiar with the original doll line anyway.
People would be still comparing them to the old ones and they can't profit from nostalgia
@@NadezdaBeka I disagree on that last part. Mattel has been profiting well this past year or so pandering to their older fans.
@@StarlightPrism It's just a thought since some of the dolls' designs and their backstories are so different that they could've been new characters on their own (like Ghoulia and Lagoona). You're right that their target audience probably wouldn't remember the original line well enough to care though.
@@StarlightPrism "the target audience wouldn't be that familiar with the original doll line anyway." then why not just make the gen 3 characters the kids of the originals or related to them
It's funny that one of the main complaints about g3 is that they "look too young" considering that it's actually the first time the characters actually look 15/16
there are a lot of things i like about the redesigns:
• frankie being non binary, there are going to be a lot of gender queer kids that feel validated seeing them
• clawdeen having edges, it’s a nice touch in making her black coded
• draculaura and cleo having different body types. they aren’t vastly different but it’s a start! maybe we will get even more body variety on the future
• draculaura being asian, i’m sure asian kids watching the show will be happy
it’s easy to focus on the negatives, but imo there r many positives too
lmao feel validated seeing WHAT? new frankie uses they/them and that's it. not gnc, not transitioning, no dysphoria, no issues with intolerance. "they/them" is just another accessory.
@@sincerelyzee521 are you asking for a character in the show to call them a slur or something
Not all of queer media needs to involve suffering for god’s sake it’s for KIDS
@@Big_Man_Enjoyer i am asking that she represent the trans community in literally any way shape or form beyond grammar
@@sincerelyzee521 she helps to represent and normalise a part of our community, especially to a younger audience where a lot of the things you mention might get the show in trouble. Perfect is the enemy of good.
*her
Ghoulia also no longer speaks in moans. I feel like this also did her dirty, characters with speech impediments are rare to come across and her origin as a zombie was too perfect for that.
And for Frankie it actually does make sense in a way for her to be non-binary: She's stitched from various body parts, most likely a mix of different genders.
Ghoulia never had a speech impediment in G1, it’s just that she legitimately spoke a different language: zombie.
iirc in the live action movie frankie even mentions they have brain parts from different geniuses and the people they mention are different genders so even their brain is made of different genders :)
*they
They actually say in the show that they have parts of the brains from genuises throughout history lot of them being male (they list names but i forget which ones), so it absolutely makes sense
Well there's also the fact that people just...can be nonbinary. Like, there doesn't need to really be an external lore justification for the existence of nonbinary people, and pretending otherwise kind of reeks of transphobia.
As someone who heavily collected G1 when I was 11-13, I’m growing to love G3, I love the different body shapes & the diverse personalities
Izzy's makeup is everything always 💜
no hate but is the foundation the wrong color today? I can’t tell if it’s on purpose
@@fistbowl1848 I thought the same, noticed it half way through the video and couldn't unnotice it lmao
@@fistbowl1848 omg bc u mentioned it now i can’t unnotice it😭
As a femme AFAB nonbinary person, very few things have EVER made me feel as validated as G3 Frankie. Feminine aesthetics are typically seen as way more loaded gender-wise than masculine aesthetics and I'm sick and tired of being told I have to perform androgyny to be seen as valid in my identity. WE DO NOT OWE ANYBODY ANDROGYNY. We are allowed to have long hair and wear dresses or makeup or anything else traditionally feminine and we are still validly nonbinary, because while clothes CAN absolutely be an expression of gender, clothes =/= gender.
Enbies across the spectrum deserve to be represented, so to me, that representation on its own makes this entire reboot 100% worth it.
This is by far my favorite look you've done on camera, seconded by the black & white look of the Sims 1 video 😊
I’m a huge fan of MH! I started collecting as a teenager with G1 and collect G3 now, and I adore the changes that have been made (for the most part). I think a lot of people in my age demographic just… can’t handle something they grew up with no longer being for them.
Also re: Frankie: I’m a femme nb so whenever I hear people saying they need to look androgynous to be proper nb representation I roll my eyes. It shouldn’t matter how you look for people to use the correct pronouns. 🙄
Personally, I was really wary when they announced G3, and I kinda hated the designs at first sight. I decided I would just ignore it and think "yeah, they keep ruining franchises I love". But after some time I came back to the fandom and found out about all the small bits of representation and thought "oh, cute", I saw some people's drawings of the new designs and I was like "damn, some of these fits go hard gurl" and eventually I noticed I was obsessed with the dolls, loved every single one of them, and I currently think G3 is the perfect revamp we needed for Monster High
I like the new designs tbh. Im not a hardcore fan but I love the inclusiveness of all of it. The fact that Frankie is NB and still feminine is a great way to show younger teens and tweens that they can be NB and do whatever they want. They don't owe anyone androgyny. Maybe we'll get more characters under that trans umbrella in the future!
I'm a pretty big fan of G3 so far. I actually really love the changes to some of the personalities and there are some dolls that I like better than the original. As you mentioned there's Deuce, but I also love what they did with Abbey and Clawd. Some concept art for Skelita Calaveras has also been leaked and I honestly adore it and can't wait to get a first look at the doll.
i personally love the reboot. on the topic of frankie “not being androgynous enough” enbys (myself included) will tell you, non-binary people do not owe anyone androgyny. i think its actually really important to have representation for feminine presenting non-binary people because being portrayed as androgynous is just comfortable for mainstream audiences. this encourages people who are new to non-binary and trans people to start asking EVERYONE what their pronouns are.
Lmao if you're going to be neither, dress the part. Otherwise you're just calling yourself non-binary because it's the new fad.
Agreed!
i'd love to see some more masculine nonbinary characters later on, as well. because there's this sort of culture of people expecting enbies to all be AFAB but more androgynous. i'm a pretty feminine presenting nonbinary person and so frankie makes me so happy to see a version of nonbinary that aligns with myself. but i definitely want to see more dolls and more characters in media in general that are masculine-leaning nonbinary! more enby diversity pleaseee
THIS! i also hope they won't be the only nonbinary character released/repurposed, either, so we can really get a whole spectrum of nonbinary characters to show "hey! look at all these nonbinary people who are different from each other and aren't all androgynous!! because they don't have to be!!!! acknowledge it!!!!!!!!!!" cuz that'd make me happy ❤
1) i love the gothic G1 looks especially the lipsticks
2) please do a barbie deepdive ahead of the new movie!! i want it to be 6 hours long and cover every doll and every movie and everything!! (obviously that would be too much work for you but still any vague barbie history will be greatly recived) xx
As an outsider looking in and a character designer, the new dolls have a lot of great details and design idea’s but they’re a bit too light in their overall color scheme. Like it needed a couple more color alternatives. It just looks a lot younger
As a dude who has recently discovered a love for these goth dolls, I think Gen 3 does lack some of the edge of Gen 1 but they're doing some cool stuff with it so I think we should let them cook. Hopefully they'll find their stride. I love G3 Draculaura, and I do like the nb, autistic, prosthetic, etc representation they're putting in
I personally really hope they make the characters age some, maybe age into the more gothic, dark styles of g1. likely not quite as harsh but clearly more reminiscent of the old gen while still having the new style. Darker makeup especially
I really love both gens but what gets on my nerves is when people say that MH lost it's "goth/emo" style. Gen 1 was neither goth or emo as those are music subcultures and monster high made more references to pop music 😭
That being said, I do hope we get to see more inspirations of alt cultures, even the ones that aren't dark like Lolita, Mori Kei, Gyaru styles, Decora, Ect. Also, maybe some actual references to goth music would be cool too
Goth is literally more than just a music subculture how stupid are you. Goth as a style and culture has been around far far longer than the music. Please do research before leaving ignorant ass comments like this jfc.
Yes exactly omg
As a lolita and goth id LOVE to see both of those ideas!
@@Alansaurus me too! They''d probably be a collector doll since the fabric would be so expensive but I would love to it.
@@lavose8709 honestly true, but Mayhaps they could do something like goldie from ever after high which her lolita esc outfit! Always loved both series fashion
There's definetly things I like and dislike. I love the quality, more inclusive character traits and that we introduced some different body types, especially Dracula, I wouldn't say plus sized, but having softer figure and I hope we get to see more vamp looks for her. There's some lore things I question and though I think Lagoona's new design is very cute on its own, it just doesn't feel watery to me. Plus I would have actually loved it if they gave Clawdeen a darker skin and more textured hair.
im actually incredibly impressed with how gorgeous most of the new designs are! i can see why so many people miss the originals, i think theyre gorgeous too and love their aesthetic. i just ALSO really like the new ones and theres so many good things to say about them, especially with the colors
i think the criticism of g1 being “darker and more alt” is kind of shortsighted as that aesthetic only rlly applies to the first few releases they had in 2010. if you look at their dolls from later lines, they are much more colorful lol
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My experience with & interest in the MH brand is basically entirely from the OOAK side of things, and from that perspective, I LOVE the new dolls. The increased articulation & wider range of body types is so great - I can only hope that they continue to explore more even body diversity going forward. I can't wait for these dolls to start popping up on the used market in a few years.
Your looks are always so iconic 💅🏻!!! I never really had any monster high dolls as I was basically a teenager when they came out and I was trying desperately to not be labeled “childish and cringe” (now I don’t GAF embrace the cringe lol) but I am absolutely obsessed with the progression of the dolls. I actually really do like the new redesigns (most of them) I also appreciate that they take feedback from loyal fans pretty seriously (for the most part lol)
I see a lot of people in the comments writing from a place of someone who grew up with the dolls. I didn’t. In fact I wasn’t allowed to have them. Wanted to share my opinion in contrast!
Unfortunately for me, I really want to like G3 but I can’t. My problem is with mainly the outfits. I’m going to put this very bluntly: when you walk down the aisle at target it is STARKLY apparent that the Monster High dolls are not the nicest looking or most cared for dolls. Your eyes are immediately drawn to Rainbow High and LOL. They have incredible detailing on the clothes, shoes, and accessories. Their face ups are stunning with detailed eyes and rich skin tones and bold, darker makeup, paired with stunning hairstyles and textures. The boxes are premium and often times have full extra clothes sets. Monster high…. The boxes are flimsy, less detailed. The accessories are small items that get lost. The color combinations clash like nobodies business and the clothes are, for lack of better wording, 2005 teenager mixed with VSCO girl. The attention to detail is just not there in comparison.
I also want to emphasize, again, I wasn’t allowed to have the gen 1 dolls because they were “evil.” My friend had some, and I remember loving Lagoona, and also Clawdeen because I’m mixed-I’d never in my life seen a doll that looked like me. But I never saw them in store. I rarely ever saw them at my friend’s house. This is all coming from someone who has NO nostalgia attached. And I have to say, from someone who got into Monster High Immediately, if given the choice and I’m within the target demographic (barely): I’d pick to buy generation 1 at least 100 times over.
Most of the designs are cool to me, although I do think clawdeen has sorta been Mary-Sue-ified… but Lagoona. Hon the pink is just NOT it. If they just made her blue again I think I could bear it
I personally disagree, I've seen people redesign lagoona with blue skin but it just doesn't look right. Coral fits her more and the contrast it has with her turqoise and ocean colored outifts is very beautiful. Her fearidescent and spa day dolls are the best examples of this
Am I the only one who feels like they don’t dress like current teenagers? I’m not a teenager but I’m in college and I don’t feel like this represents how people look, even in a casual way. Their outfits look like an elementary school girl’s fantasy wardrobe in 2010, I’m talking straight out the Justice catalog and the set of Shake It Up or Victorious. It really feels like they looked at the kind of inclusive redesigns that fanartists drew for other fandoms in the mid 2010s (generally made by people who couldn’t dress) and said “yes, this is what we want!” without taking the fact that they are a fashion doll line into account and trying to make it inclusive AND fashionable. Now it just looks mid.
does anyone remember the old monster high website? I used to spend hours there just looking at all the character profiles, playing the games, it was so cool, I wish they at least rebooted it too :(
Yeah I miss it man tbh I wanna remake it but idk how
i loved that website!! especially the draculaura driving game
@@nectar9509 omg me too
the charms on torelei’s shoes are actually balls of yarn and she has paw prints on the bottoms of her shoes like clawdeen! i love her details hehe
I remember getting clawdia and draculaura first gen dolls as a kid and im so pissed that i didnt keep the boxes and scattered the accessories everywhere bc i was a kid and played with the dolls but today I would love to have them exposed somewhere in my room but nah when I was a kid i did not realize how precious they'd be today xD
I'm always amazed that you're still able to find interesting topics to make videos about, it's always on something I can't wait to watch! If I had a youtube channel I'd have run out of ideas ages ago
Quick correction-- Ghoulia is the only doll who is Target exclusive (for now)! Deuce is Amazon exclusive and Toralei is Walmart exclusive!
I grew up with G1, and I actually ADORE G3! I hope we can get more variety in the body types and I'm excited to see more G1 dolls come back.
My G3 hot takes:
- I like the colorfulness
- Give all the Clawdeen dolls glasses Mattel you cowards
- Lagoona is feral and I kinda love it
- Needs more body types, particularly more plus size. There’s a character in the show Iris who’s plus size but she’s a background character
- Headmistress Bloodgood is hot?
- Dracula is hot? And pink!
- I want more
I think the varying body types is actually really nice. Some of them being taller or shorter and even curvy is pretty neat! I'd like to see them expand upon that with more variations like maybe having more tummy or a muscular feminine body and non-muscular dude body types. I'd also really like to see more interesting body details, like Lagoona's translucent legs and fins, as the unique features like that really appeal to me design-wise.
Thank you for all the positive things you said in this video. I was about 5-6 when I got my first doll. When i got kicked out of my house at 15, I lost all of my monster high dolls, and I had about 6 or 7 different dolls with a bunch of different outfits that I had personally made. Now I am trying to find my collection again, and I am so happy to see that they have added a nonbinary character and possibly multiple LGBTQ+ characters. It makes my inner child smile as now he knows that its ok to like "girly thing" and its ok to like whoever the f you want to
Bro you put so much time into research for these videos and they are always long as so good I’m captivated the whole time.
I'm so sorry Izzy but I love Twyla haha I think she is absolutely gorgeous and her characterization is heart-meltingly cute in the series.The only thing that I am not a fan of is how her shadows feel blocky as they don't blend in well enough on the hands.