my dad used to read me these books when i was 10-11. i loved them. he cried when bluestar died and i pretended to be asleep because i didn't know what to do.
I remember back in the fourth grade the warrior cats girls would hiss at people and us boys were like "you're so weird" then proceed to use pinecones as currency in our pretend drug trade
I swore I distinctly remember one of Fireheart’s motives for leaving was to avoid being neutered. Like an older cat told him about how a cat would get taken to the vet and come back with drastic personality changes. Which happens when we neuter a cat.
I'm sorry if you already know this by now, or just don't care anymore, but you'd be absolutely right! It's from Chapter 2 of Into the Wild: "“I can tell that you are still a tom,” Bluestar added, “despite the Twoleg stench that clings to your fur.” “What do you mean-still a tom?” “You haven’t yet been taken by the Twolegs to see the Cutter,” meowed Bluestar gravely. “You would be very different then. Not quite so keen to fight a Clan cat, I suspect!” Rusty was confused. He suddenly thought of Henry, who had become fat and lazy since his visit to the vet. Was that what Bluestar meant by the Cutter?"
Yeah that’s an actual thing. He was told he was gonna get taken to the Cutter, or the vet, and Bluestar literally told him “I see you’re still a tom.” Meaning basically he still had his balls. Yknow if he went to the Cutter first we wouldn’t have had to deal with Ballgate..
no matter how many people tell me i used to be a "cringy" warrior cats girl, i don't really care. pretending to be Jayfeather or Bluestar and running around making bedding out of pine leaves and pretending the bark and moss was herbs were some of the best times of my life. I still read it to this day and no matter how long it becomes, i'll keep up with it just to keep my inner child happy.
seriously, i didn’t get into the fandom early enough in life to be a warrior cats roleplayer at recess, but my GOSH i would have! if only i’d gotten into the fandom around five years earlier…
Well when I was a kid (I don’t remember how old I was but I think around the ages of 13-15) I remember when Google Plus was a thing I remember role playing in fan made role playing communities (this was before games like Warrior Cats Ultimate Edition or WCUE for short was a thing on Roblox) and it was a fun side thing to do. Although G+ is gone now (it sadly shut down back in 2018 I think) but I remember the memories
@@TheSkittlesAddict yeah, it just seems so much more fun to be a little kid playing with your friends on a playground and claiming the swingset sunningrocks as your territory than just writing * i place my paw on the rocks and shout, “this territory belongs to riverclan once more!” * such a nostalgic feeling i missed out on because i didn’t read the books until 7th grade
Yep, Warriors was a crucial part of some of our childhood's and I'm rlly glad I got into it. Re-reading the books now that I'm 17 and forgot stuff from them.
I work in a high school and have had a few disappointed students who came to try to find the books in our library. I feel guilty having to tell them that we just can't afford to spend money on middle school level books because we need to focus on "age appropriate" reading with our small budget. :( I personally think anything that gets a kid to read is good to have, but I just can't justify getting the Warrior Cats books when there are so many good YA options and only enough money to get around 50 books a year.
I thought I was part of the warrior cat fandom for a few weeks as a teen, only to discover that I actually never read Warrior Cat, I read the way more obscure "Cat School" by Korean Author Jin-kyung Kim ! Very good books he wrote to console his daughters after the death of their cat. Basically, when cats reach 15 yo, they leave their family and go to a cat school to learn magic, I re-read them as an adult, and I stand by theses books being very good. So if you like Warrior cats, you'll like theses as well :)
Yo!! I read Cat School in French as a kid! I was always curious to find if it was available in English, and if there were others out there who had read the books! (Haven't had any luck with online discussions of it till now). :)
@@embyrfyres YES ! I looked it up and they're very hard to find in english, I'm french as well ! Only french and Korean kids have an easy access to the books, and I've never met anyone else who had read them
As someone who participated in the warrior cats fandom for years, it is insane how much talent these people have. Kids are creating god tier animations with no formal training and shitty software. I think being a warrior cats fan gives you some sort of super powers, because I used to draw and animate using a laptop mousepad and my finger and I could never do that now
Seriously! Like i could never draw cats in my life, then I joined the WC fandom and suddenly i was pumping out fanart like i was being paid (i very much am not).
omg same!! I created some impressive digital fanart about 13 years ago I don't think I could replicate today. I honestly can't even remember how I did it.
I once made the mistake of having a party where everyone got to do a drunken lecture on the topic of their choice, and one person launch into a forty-minute analysis of the exact naming conventions of the Warrior Cats characters, and because I know too many historians and anthropologists it kickstarted a two-hour argument over how the name system should work that nearly devolved into an actual fistfight at one point. Everyone in the room was in their 20s or 30s.
@@loveyx6731 I was very drunk at the time, but from what I remember the real sticking point was that there was a special name (Moon Pull or something) that a cat could only get if they performed a specific and extremely rare feat that I have entirely forgotten. During the questions phase someone asked if the name was a name or a title, and things degenerated into close to twenty people yelling that if it was a name if they still had their original name but they were to be unused as in military rank or if the title was the name as in The [Name] and they'd revert to the last name if they proved unworthy or fradulent in the earning, or if it was a name and if it replaced their current name or was added to their names and if you would be accurate but impolite to call them by their old name or simply wrong. The whole thing was a complete mess even though at least four people there had formal training in onomastics, because they were doctoral students in history or anthropology in a room with free alcohol.
@@UnreasonableOpinions as a past warrior cat fan: its neither a name OR a title, theyre cats with their own society (even though theyre extremely personified) and religion, most of the things they do dont make sense because its not supposed to be directly related to any human-like creation, hell they dont even call people humans they call them two-legs haha
Definitely. She should cover all the dramas of the most popular roleplays as well as all the weird shit in public roleplays 😂 From cats giving birth in the middle of camp to people one-shotting their leader because of mild inconveniences 🤣
In order to solve the Dovewing eye color problem once and for all, someone should sacrifice their sanity to count through all the books how many times each eye color is mentioned.
That actually seems fairly easy nowadays! There are sites with the entire books uploaded, so you could realistically ctrl F and look for the words eyes and Dovewing, and quickly figure out the amount
i was thinking about doing that since i started rereading the series lately, so this comment motivated me to make this attempt. it’ll probably take me a while but i’ll give it a shot lol
I just sort of never noticed it changed😂 I was like "oh her eyes are green huh ok" and then like 10 pages later id be like. "Oh her eyes are blue? Aight" 😂
as someone who knew several weird wc elememtary schoolers on their way to become weird trans adults (including myself) i can confirm that this pipeline is very real
Dovewing's natural eye color is green, but her eyes appeared blue while she had her powers because of her connection to the ancient cat Dove's Wing (who had blue eyes), changing to green when she lost her powers after the prophecy was fulfilled. Her eyes appeared golden during the drought because they were reflecting the harsh sunlight.
The interesting thing is that there's a sibling series: Wings of Fire. One of the authors who wrote for Warrior Cats made their own series, like Warriors but with dragons that had advanced civilization. The books came out back in 2012 but the fandom seems to have only been present on the internet for the past few years where it's seen massive growth.
I remember discovering my current favorite insta artist bc of WOF and even though he doesn’t do WOF art anymore, his stuff still slaps and im glad to have found him!
You know how kids get into art via Warriors? Imagine that but with wof and you understand how it went for me, ty random classmate in 3rd grade that was drawing dragons and told me what book series they were from, you are why I love drawing. 10/10 book series and there is a small enough amount of books for it to be reasonable, the series is written by Tuti T Sutherland btw
I think it's better to hold off on the Homestuck video for now-I love Sarah Z's work and I think she meant well, but I feel like she rushed that one through, and it's unfortunate that a lot of the dark side of the anti-Homestuck 2 backlash went undiscussed. I'm just waiting for a Guardians of Ga'Hoole videoessay. That was such a weird trip.
as a fan whos been reading all the books from 1st grade to present day this is like being a guest speaker veteran watching a teacher explain a war edit: shit thats a lot of like wtf
@@hannahhannah7002 well ok heres the thing, the broken code starts great but so far (i havent started the latest book) its fizzling out and is becoming predictable. its dealing with old plot points from arc 2 but the main characters are like... boring. except shadowsight i love that boy. bristlefrost is also pretty good when shes not with rootspring, and rootspring could be better if he just stopped and thought about anything other than bris. keep in mind these books are a way for me to turn my brain off and relax so ive most definitely forgotten boring bits that didnt stand out to my mush of a brain. i would recommend the first two books of the broken code its good
Probably no-one will see this particular comment, but just in case someone finds it interesting there was a fairly robust community of Warrior Cats roleplayers in World of Warcraft early on and likely still today. They would play as Druids which have access to a cat form very early on, and they would form guilds to represent their clans.
I was a major Warrior Cats kid and I've come back to reading the books as an adult and honestly it's even MORE fun now because of how wacky and insane the community and books really are. I'm often just left staring at a page in the book and going 'I'm sorry WHAT'S the target demographic?' or 'what the hell does that even MEAN?' and it's honestly really entertaining.
ik i just reread the first series after like 13 years and i was reading when tigerstar basically had stonefur’s(?bluestar’s son) throat ripped out in front of the apprentices and i was like……. is this not for 11 year olds 😭😭
@@ThePcmgirlI remember reading the books when I was 8. Idk, honestly that’s probably as graphic as it gets from what I remember but I think an 11 year old can handle that amount of gore.
@@dartthenightlight3840 It's basically like a really long jacket (almost floor length) shady people wear in the movies. The cool ones will have straps and you can pop the collar
I always get a bit nervous when I go to look at anything about warrior cats. It's a series I hold near and dear to my heart, and while I know there are a lot of bad things about it, that doesn't mean I'm ever okay with being called cringy or stupid for liking them. My childhood was a vicious cycle of getting bullied for liking things and delving further into them to escape being bullied about them. I went into this video a bit afraid that you'd just be bashing us and I'm pleasantly surprised by this video and the in depth nature of it. So thank you, and I'll be sure to check out some of your other stuff!
Idk why your scared of being cringe, everyone is into something cringe. Cringe culture itself is bad but if your cringe doesn't involve harming other people or doing something creepy it's fine. Like I think playing Fortnite is cringe but I understand and think it's fine. You should not think it's cringe to be into something (unless you are acting like a child about it then it's a bit weird ig)
I am a youth librarian who has never read Warrior Cats, and this deep dive has made me so much more knowledgeable about the series when kids ask about it.
For everyone watching and wondering about if the cats in Warriors had balls or not... In the first book, Firestar talks heavily in the beginning about the neighboring cat who became slow and boring after going to the vet to get a "surgery" that was highly implied to be getting spayed. It was one of his main reasons for leaving his home lmfao
its so funny to me that bluestar meets rusty and is just like “oh you still have balls? yeah sure come in” like she literally says ‘you are still a tom’ LMAO
That was actually one of my big issues with the books. My grandpa was a veterinarian, and spaying and neutering cats is one of the ways to prevent overpopulation and unwanted kitten deaths. The way that they acted like it was a bad thing always rubbed me the wrong way, even in middle school
@@skypaver989 Well, the books are written in the perspective of wild cats with strong opinions, strenght in numbers is very important to them. These cats also often mocked dogs but the Erin Hunters have written a series about dogs, Survivors, so it's obvious they're not against dogs, it's just the opinion of these cats. It's very likely the Erin Hunters are not against spaying and castrating cats either.
I feel like fandom culture is doing this 360 of people being into it, then finding it cringey, and finally people realizing that it was always about creativity and community and that’s great
You only stopped liking the things once you cared what other people thought, and you were only able to start liking them again once you matured past caring what they thought.
just saw this video two years after release. cute video, so many memories, so many friends featured! hope you had fun looking into our little niche of the internet.
About poor writing, I think it's the word choice. Because, Russian editions of Warrior Cars are fucking masterpieces, the word choice is fantastic. They put a lot of work and visible love into translating and adapting. For example, instead of directly translating "deputy" into a modern russian word "zamestitel'" which is associated with corporate powers, they named deputies "glashatai", which is an old Russian word, roughly translating to "herald", or exchanging "medicine cat" for "tselitel" - an uncommon word describing a magical healer in tribes. And it's just the names alone, i can't judge the plot, because i didn't read the original, but I think Russian translators putting such an effort in just translating names alone to create mystery and magic, could technically rewrite it more coherently. And they probably did, because sentence structure of Russian and English languages is noticeably different.
Around the time I was reading Warrior Cats an orange kitten showed up in my backyard and soon became my beloved first pet. I thought running around with a toy mouse was the equivalent of training him to hunt and fight. When he caught his first mouse I swore up and down he was actually Firestar. You could not convince me otherwise. I had an attachment to Firestar because of Whiskee and basically saw them one in the same. He lived to be 14. I miss that fat orange man.
Aww this was really sweet to read! This video is the first I've ever heard of this series, but despite some toxicity it seems to have really inspired some kids to use their imagination and just be kids. Sorry for your loss, I'm gonna go hug my Finnegan now
I read the entire first and second arc (along with a few super editions) aloud to my little brothers, and tried to give every cat a unique voice - and boy did that get hard, especially in the later books when there were multiple POVs. It was super fun though and definitely a fond memory.
it gets weird when you realize deadpool could be a warrior name plus I remember foxpaw so excited and wanted to be called foxchaser or something like that poor baby
probably no one will see it, but I just feel the need to share it warrior cat's polish edition has different covers from the original series and they are so gorgeous and I love them and I just think everyone in the fandom should know about their existence
I used to always be like "i'm just a normal kid" but I could name every Warrior Cats book in timeline order, summarize every one, and had every cat memorized and laid out in a chart
I would rp irl with my friend and pretend to be a medicine cat, Then I'd go collect leaves and be shocked when they were not on the playground table the next day.
When I was around 12 I discovered the Warrior Cats books and I was OBSESSED with them for serveral years. I had my own little RPG forum website where I created my own Clans, characters and stories. It was my form of escapism. I was thinking about my characters 24/7; as soon as I got home from school I went online and started roleplaying. Even after I stopped reading the books I continued to write my own Warrior Cats stories. Anyway, this whole fandom shaped so much of my personality and I started writing stories and poetry because of it. I´m kinda thankful that my teen years were shaped by Warrior Cats.
I read these in my native tongue, German, throughout first until fifth grade I think. So I never noticed the bad writing, and I remember my physical hardcover books having lists of clans and their members at the start of every book - which meant some order to look back to, some spoilers too. The covers weren't paintings in Photoshop, but rather RL photos of cats with some background that partly spoiled the plot of each book. I loved that as a kid, whereas now it sometimes looks like covers of standard romance/erotica novels 😂
I also read the in German ages ago (The first three arcs, I think) and I never really noticed the inconcistencies. Since the German publisher is known for educational books and schoolbooks and also tries to keep its novels up to a certain "you could read this in school" standard, I guess, the editors were doing some extra hours, fixing this stuff.
I also read it in German, and I am currently rereading it(in English). The Editors definitively worked extra hours. 'Heiler' just sounds ten times better that 'medicine cat' (Like, they could have used healer or some new Word) I think it are all those little Things, that make it much more enjoyable.
Scourge was never an obsession for me. Being an eight year old at the time, the scene where he absolutely DESTROYS Tigerstar, the until then main baddie of the series, in a MOMENT scared and fascinated me, but I still had other favourites.
My friends and I met Tui T Sutherland at a Wings of Fire book signing, and I remember asked her why Shadow Clan is always evil while she signed the book. Basically her response was that she had to catch up on the Warriors lore.
Fun fact: Spiked dog collars were invented as basically armor to protect sheep dogs from wolf attacks. When wolves fight for real they usually go for the neck, with spiked collars they got a mouth full of spikes and hard leather/chain.
Spiked Collars are basically armour. Nice. Reminds me of those Conquistador dogs, but then I remember the atrocities they used those doggos for and I get sad. I will not recount those atrocities here, so if you're curious Google it at your own risk.
We seriously need a Fallen Leaves super edition. He has so much potential as a character but was completely abandoned by the Erins after Hollyleaf's Story and (as far as I remember) was never even included in a main series. I'm so confused by his lore.
Those who are not aware, check Tad Williams' debut novel, Tailchaser's Song. Superficially quite similar to WC, but it's more high fantasy and a hero's journey kind of story. Also 17 years older. No rabbit holes there because there's no sequels. He just wrote 1 cat book and moved to other fantasy after that. I absolutely love it.
i have a warrior oc names smokeweed. They are my warrior sona and I treat that like a completely serious character despite their existence being a joke.
This video gave me violent flashbacks about my christian afterschool club that tried to ban our warrior cats roleplays because we were "acting ungodly" or something
Shoutout to Amelia Bothe, one of the most talented animators on TH-cam who does almost exclusively Warriors MAPs (although their personal work is also insanely impressive)
The dedication we all had to this when we were teens... I created tons of fanart, wrote several fanfics, and even took photos of stray cats out in nature and pretended they were the Warrior Cats, attaching them to actual characters and sharing made-up stories of how I found them and what they were doing LOL
i have been waiting for another former weird cat/wolf girl to make a deep dive on the state of the internet in 2012, there seems to be a weird generation of animal girls who are now grown up and looking back it was such a zeitgeist of 'you had to be there' and preteen edge that will never be recreated for me again. shout out to my former weird wolf girls out there, love ya.
@@freshcupofangst I work in a field where the term MAP is used regularly which is why it throws me off so much but it really is a shame how it's taken over terms from the art community in common vernacular.
Even as an outsider Its insane how animators that go from making warrior cats animations to other animations can nail animal anatomy and how they move so well
There is also Russian warriors game called "Catwar". It’s literally a massive weird mmo with 2D graphics and role play. It was peak popular in 2016 but is up to this day. You should check it out at least to see what a phenomenon ru fandom has left
I feel like if Warriors was real, someone would probably get curious about loud yowling coming from the woods, and would bring a flashlight, only to see herds upon herds of cats, just scratching the living shit out of each other.
@@TheAkwarium In the first series "The cutter" was used (from my memory) to mean being taken to the vet to be spayed/neutered. I cannot recall a single instance in the first arc that "the cutter" was used to mean vet in general, just in the second arc and beyond. Anyway. "The cutter" and neuters were mentioned a lot in the first book in particular. I think it's Bluestar that mentions Rusty is still a tom and hasn't been to the cutter yet. When explained what a cutter is, Rusty thinks of Henry, one of his neighbors who became lazy and fat after visiting the cutter. Rusty is glad that he is still a tom, and someone remarks that he is of the age where twolegs bring cats to the cutter, so they were sure he'd not be one for long. Later during a hunting assignment (not sure what book), Firepaw attacks Smudge, who is now neutered. He remarks he smells different is fat/plump and once again is thankful he was never brought to the cutter. he lets Smudge go and gets in trouble because Tigerclaw saw him let Smudge go. Outside of the first few books I can't recall any cat being specifically mentioned they were neutered like this. But I stopped reading at omen of the stars.
@@valerius8985 I kinda hate these generalizations because first off: kids should be able to be kids, imaginative and creative without being bullied for it. Secondly because I was super into wolves and warrior cats and I never acted like how everyone stereotypes. In a way it creates sour memories around it and makes it feel like I'm unable to express my past interests and hobbies.
@@Delihlah it was a joke. I was both a horse kid and a warriors kid and still read the books to this day. Kids are free to be kids man it's just funny to look back on the weird shit we did and laugh
i used to play in that roblox warriors roleplay game and one day i accidentally called the medicine cat the “doctor cat” and it made everyone so mad at me everyone tried to start a server vote to ban me and they followed me around the map until i started crying and i quit the game
As someone who read these books (out of order) in elementary school without ever learning these books had a fandom, this video feels like going to a family reunion for the first time and all of your cousins are the most bizarre people imaginable
i was a warrior cats girl. i had a bestie who got me into it, i didn’t stop reading them till the middle of seventh grade 💀💀. i still own the first set of them. omg i was such a nerd my favorite character was jayfeather and i thought i was so quirky. i always wore my hair in this middle part🗿. and i watched maps drew fanart, spent time scrolling through memes and fanart. I watched the warrior cats yt animated something. also u don’t really mind spottedleaf
Did anyone else play "wolfquest"? It was a multiplayer wolf survival simulator designed to teach about the ecosystem and how wolves lived. However--every server basically became warrior cats rp, even though you were literally playing as wolves, not cats.
Okay, my memory of the books is super foggy, but I had to chime in here. I'm almost positive it was the books that were shipping Jayfeather with his stick. I'm like, 80% sure it was a real canon thing.
I hung out with a group of girls back in 4th grade and they indoctrinated me into their recess Warrior Cat roleplay group even though I had never touched a Warrior Cat book.
35:14 in the first book, they actually do mention neutering! not by name, since the cats don't have a name for it but they mention how one of firestar's neighbor cats from when he was a kittypet went to the vet & came back 'different'. it heavily implied that he was neutered, and mentions the behavioral changes that come with it.
I honestly love this channel because their outlook on everything is just so nice. You can just tell from the way they talk about their chosen topic- doesn't matter what it is- that they look at the world with such positivity and love and kindness. It's really refreshing to watch.
@you aren’t weeb for watching two episodes of mha and those books are on my 25 yr old bookshelf too?? Like y’all I’ve been reading these books since 2003. THATS what I’m getting at. Most of the content creators for warriors are 20-28 years old. 🤷♀️ y’all thinking about this too much
I used to be like a casual fan, I didn't really have internet access so I didn't even know it had a fandom. I also only read the forst series and some of the standalone books. I remember for some reason loving Whitestorm even though I can't remember anything about him. My favorite book was Crookedstar's Promise, though later I got really attached to Tallstar's Revenge.
I only ever read the first book in 2nd grade. It traumatized me so much because so many of my favorite characters died, so I didn't read any more besides the mangas and guide books. I was an avid warrior cat RPer, I had my own forum on Scratch where me and 3 other kids I never met irl would all RP. It was called "Clans of the Silver Prophecy" but heck if I remember what the Silver prophecy every was. Shout out to my peeps Scarstar, Wizecatz, and Echosoul. Hope you are all doing well.
Man I got bullied out of the wc rp side so fast because I wasn’t fully into the fandom (my best friend was at the time) and I wanted to make a cat named hawkstar. My 12 y/o brain didn’t understand and I just panicked and noped out lmao
Chip knows warrior cats now I could comment on those vids about the comparisons from your vids and warriors btw I love your vids they were how I started to do photoshop
Man, I have no idea about most of the stuff your videos cover, but you have such a good narrator voice that I can't help but keep listening while playing my games
hello, you don't know me but being born in 2000 and coming from a deeply abusive home, i wanted to say thank you as you have shown me through many of your videos that i was in fact a normal / just a kid
I was obsessed with warriors, harry potter, and guardians of ga'hoole. I loved guardians if ga'hoole and warriors so much I bought them again years later after losing them in a move. I luckily still had my old harry potter books.
I had some friends who were _really_ into this series. Reminds me of a book my mum liked called Duncton Wood, a fantasy series about moles. Some of these animations look really high quality too
Someone help I cannot get out of this fandom Am I a 28-year old married lady with a full-time job and a house? Yes Have I been working on a warriors fan-comic for six years now? Also yes
Hey, at least you’re making something! I’m only slightly older and all I’m doing is still reading the books lmfao. (No but for real your comic sounds awesome)
Why do you need help? It sounds like you're having fun. Now if you quit your job, get divorced, and are forced to file bankruptcy because you're obsessively drawing a comic and can't control yourself then you might want to have a chat with a professional. Who cares if you're into something? I mean, it's not like your fandom is crack or heroine.
I was super into the books but wasn't really allowed on the internet that much so all this fandom news is new to me. I am just glad someone else read the series.
I love how well you covered the drama. I only know WC stuff my friend has told me. Your speed of speaking and structure is nice to follow and flows well. Great job on editing a big video like this as well. (Or props to your editor if you have onel
I love the fact that they couldn't even remember when a cat died. I'm not in the fandom but I'm just wondering if there is like a huge fight over which death is canon or something like that.
@@ImaFreakinNarwhal it makes sense. None of them wanted to be medicine cats. They were just bad at hunting and fighting/they had problems focusing on that stuff. So, TO THE MED CAT DEN YOU GO
I once won a pet fish at a carnival and- going through my warrior cats phase- I named her Spottedleaf. (I was 9 at this time btw) Pretty soon after that I got to the part of the series where Spottedleaf dies, and my poor fish died the very next day. For YEARS I was convinced that if you name your pet after a fictional character, and then that character dies, then your pet is doomed to die as well. Thank you Erin Hunter(s) for that I guess.
I read it because me and the author have the same name. 4 years later and it’s now a special interest that my teen self drift to and from so this was bloody hysterical to watch because you’ve summed it up so perfectly-
dovewing’s eye color is color changing. like literally imagine that one setting on led lights that fades into a bunch of different colors. That is what dovewing’s eyes look like.
Honestly warriors has remained probably the least problematic fandom ive ever been in. were just a bunch of people who love these funky little forest cats.
Sameeeee, it also helped me connect with a bunch of people and get into role playing (acting) and creative things like drawing and writing and story telling.
Really enjoyed this overview of the fandom! I'm part of the MAP and animation community in general, and you gave a really great breakdown of that! I'll definitely be linking people to this video when they ask about MAPs!
I have a list of other canonically possible warrior names: - Littlefoot - Bluetooth - Morningwood - Ravenclaw - Deadpool - Snakeheart (Similar to “Foxheart”, as both are an insult. But, the difference here is that is hasn’t been used in canon yet)
Back when I was in the Fandom, I'd make his collar yellow specifically to annoy people. Worked every time. There's even comments on some of the videos on my channel of people complaining, it's great.
Lol- i’m glad i’ve found all the fandoms i’ve found (well from the things i’m fan of or was)😅 even tho i have cringe mlp art on the internet what i posted when i was 10/11 and that i’ve seen TOO MUCH NSFW on a young age and such stuff, i’m glad it helped me with my art and helped me find things i like and yeah warriors fandom kind of helped me aswell staying happy^^
The real question we should be discussing here is: did Firestar ever like waffles??
firestar doesn’t like cookies :(
he doesn't even know what a waffle is u_u
*I have a carrot*
oh boy
Oh g o d
my dad used to read me these books when i was 10-11. i loved them. he cried when bluestar died and i pretended to be asleep because i didn't know what to do.
LMAO SKENDKSBDJSKJ???
This actually made me laugh out loud picturing the scene 😂😂😂
Omg I’m sorry that’s so hilarious ToT
Awww oh no your dad is such a softie :( tell him we love him mkay
That is so touching ;-; I cried too lol
I remember back in the fourth grade the warrior cats girls would hiss at people and us boys were like "you're so weird" then proceed to use pinecones as currency in our pretend drug trade
Lmao
this is so funny omg
Duuddeee I was a fuckin pharmacist in our local warrior cats rp
dang im so glad that wasn't a part of your school. all the cringe would probably make me stop reading the books.
also at our school pinecones were worth a penny, and the bigger the rocks were the higher currency they were lol
I swore I distinctly remember one of Fireheart’s motives for leaving was to avoid being neutered. Like an older cat told him about how a cat would get taken to the vet and come back with drastic personality changes. Which happens when we neuter a cat.
Lol I just commented the same thing! You are correct
That’s definitely true because I thought my irl kitten was permanently damaged after getting fixed when I read that book.
I'm sorry if you already know this by now, or just don't care anymore, but you'd be absolutely right! It's from Chapter 2 of Into the Wild:
"“I can tell that you are still a tom,” Bluestar added, “despite the Twoleg stench that clings to your fur.”
“What do you mean-still a tom?”
“You haven’t yet been taken by the Twolegs to see the Cutter,” meowed Bluestar gravely. “You would be very different then. Not quite so keen to fight a Clan cat, I suspect!”
Rusty was confused. He suddenly thought of Henry, who had become fat and lazy since his visit to the vet. Was that what Bluestar meant by the Cutter?"
Yeah that’s an actual thing. He was told he was gonna get taken to the Cutter, or the vet, and Bluestar literally told him “I see you’re still a tom.” Meaning basically he still had his balls. Yknow if he went to the Cutter first we wouldn’t have had to deal with Ballgate..
Partially why I am morally disturbed by the concept
no matter how many people tell me i used to be a "cringy" warrior cats girl, i don't really care. pretending to be Jayfeather or Bluestar and running around making bedding out of pine leaves and pretending the bark and moss was herbs were some of the best times of my life. I still read it to this day and no matter how long it becomes, i'll keep up with it just to keep my inner child happy.
seriously, i didn’t get into the fandom early enough in life to be a warrior cats roleplayer at recess, but my GOSH i would have! if only i’d gotten into the fandom around five years earlier…
Well when I was a kid (I don’t remember how old I was but I think around the ages of 13-15) I remember when Google Plus was a thing I remember role playing in fan made role playing communities (this was before games like Warrior Cats Ultimate Edition or WCUE for short was a thing on Roblox) and it was a fun side thing to do. Although G+ is gone now (it sadly shut down back in 2018 I think) but I remember the memories
@@coyotix there’s a reason warrior cat roleplay discord servers exist 😉
@@TheSkittlesAddict yeah, it just seems so much more fun to be a little kid playing with your friends on a playground and claiming the swingset sunningrocks as your territory than just writing * i place my paw on the rocks and shout, “this territory belongs to riverclan once more!” * such a nostalgic feeling i missed out on because i didn’t read the books until 7th grade
Yep, Warriors was a crucial part of some of our childhood's and I'm rlly glad I got into it. Re-reading the books now that I'm 17 and forgot stuff from them.
Her: MAPs
Me: Oh no
Her: Multi-animation projects
Me: Ohhhh
😂
Twitter ruined the term MAPs
Same man I had a mini heart attack when she said maps
SAME
@@redwheat333
Twitter was a mistake
I'm proud to report as a former Warrior cats kid that at the elementary school library I work at, it very much is still a hit.
I work in a high school and have had a few disappointed students who came to try to find the books in our library. I feel guilty having to tell them that we just can't afford to spend money on middle school level books because we need to focus on "age appropriate" reading with our small budget. :( I personally think anything that gets a kid to read is good to have, but I just can't justify getting the Warrior Cats books when there are so many good YA options and only enough money to get around 50 books a year.
Exactly! In grade 2 I remember even me and my friend made our own twist on the books.
@@chelseacheckington7421 honestly I totally get that, it sucks but there just isn’t the budget sadly
@@chelseacheckington7421 oooo maybe encourage them to pool money to buy the books so they can be donated to the library!
It's been 11 years since I first discovered the series and I still love it to bits. It's so awesome!
I thought I was part of the warrior cat fandom for a few weeks as a teen, only to discover that I actually never read Warrior Cat, I read the way more obscure "Cat School" by Korean Author Jin-kyung Kim ! Very good books he wrote to console his daughters after the death of their cat. Basically, when cats reach 15 yo, they leave their family and go to a cat school to learn magic, I re-read them as an adult, and I stand by theses books being very good. So if you like Warrior cats, you'll like theses as well :)
That sounds so precious! Ill definitely keep this in mind!
Yo!! I read Cat School in French as a kid! I was always curious to find if it was available in English, and if there were others out there who had read the books! (Haven't had any luck with online discussions of it till now). :)
@@embyrfyres YES ! I looked it up and they're very hard to find in english, I'm french as well ! Only french and Korean kids have an easy access to the books, and I've never met anyone else who had read them
@@Sganarellcan you provide some English links if you find them?
Holy shit you just unlocked a bunch of memories for me lmao I used to read the fuck out of that series
As someone who participated in the warrior cats fandom for years, it is insane how much talent these people have. Kids are creating god tier animations with no formal training and shitty software. I think being a warrior cats fan gives you some sort of super powers, because I used to draw and animate using a laptop mousepad and my finger and I could never do that now
Seriously! Like i could never draw cats in my life, then I joined the WC fandom and suddenly i was pumping out fanart like i was being paid (i very much am not).
As someone who has read all the books but has not engaged with the fandom, and is trying to learn art…
I guess theres only one thing I can do now
omg same!! I created some impressive digital fanart about 13 years ago I don't think I could replicate today. I honestly can't even remember how I did it.
the 'tism strikes again
I once made the mistake of having a party where everyone got to do a drunken lecture on the topic of their choice, and one person launch into a forty-minute analysis of the exact naming conventions of the Warrior Cats characters, and because I know too many historians and anthropologists it kickstarted a two-hour argument over how the name system should work that nearly devolved into an actual fistfight at one point.
Everyone in the room was in their 20s or 30s.
i would love to hear more about this oml-
@@loveyx6731 I was very drunk at the time, but from what I remember the real sticking point was that there was a special name (Moon Pull or something) that a cat could only get if they performed a specific and extremely rare feat that I have entirely forgotten. During the questions phase someone asked if the name was a name or a title, and things degenerated into close to twenty people yelling that if it was a name if they still had their original name but they were to be unused as in military rank or if the title was the name as in The [Name] and they'd revert to the last name if they proved unworthy or fradulent in the earning, or if it was a name and if it replaced their current name or was added to their names and if you would be accurate but impolite to call them by their old name or simply wrong.
The whole thing was a complete mess even though at least four people there had formal training in onomastics, because they were doctoral students in history or anthropology in a room with free alcohol.
Oh my word 😂😂😂
@@UnreasonableOpinions as a past warrior cat fan: its neither a name OR a title, theyre cats with their own society (even though theyre extremely personified) and religion, most of the things they do dont make sense because its not supposed to be directly related to any human-like creation, hell they dont even call people humans they call them two-legs haha
i dont see the mistake
"Theyre very edgy and arent religious"
This is the best description of bloodclan ive even heard in my entire life
The edgy atheist cats 😖
@@garlicbreadsupremacy8176 This is 100% bloodclan
@@garlicbreadsupremacy8176 RedditClan
@@organa1626 that’s shadowclan
Twitter clan
I feel like the Warrior Cats Roleplay community needs a video all of its own
Barnes & Noble warrior cats roleplay
Definitely.
She should cover all the dramas of the most popular roleplays as well as all the weird shit in public roleplays 😂
From cats giving birth in the middle of camp to people one-shotting their leader because of mild inconveniences 🤣
oh shittt I was in a 2 year long dedicated warrior cat roleplay as a child it was a whole damn thing it really does need a video
fr i roleplayed warrior cats on starstable for over 6 years, shit really went down and i still have friends from there to this day LOL
roleplaying warrior cats as a middle schooler while breaking deviantart's age limit was probably the happiest time of my life
In order to solve the Dovewing eye color problem once and for all, someone should sacrifice their sanity to count through all the books how many times each eye color is mentioned.
i would gladly do that, i just always borrow the books from libraries so i need to make a few trips lol-
That actually seems fairly easy nowadays! There are sites with the entire books uploaded, so you could realistically ctrl F and look for the words eyes and Dovewing, and quickly figure out the amount
I think you meant dwang
i was thinking about doing that since i started rereading the series lately, so this comment motivated me to make this attempt. it’ll probably take me a while but i’ll give it a shot lol
I just sort of never noticed it changed😂 I was like "oh her eyes are green huh ok" and then like 10 pages later id be like. "Oh her eyes are blue? Aight"
😂
The fact that Erin Hunter is actually several women writing together explains SO MUCH but it gets forgotten so often.
wait what?
@@chromyl_chloride yea its actually like a few different women who work as a team to make the books
and men.
@@j1nx.creams0da oh my, I just looked at the list again. I didn't even realize that at first oof
Wait then what the fuck was that book signing I went to in 4th grade.
The "weird warrior cats elementary schooler" to "weird trans adult who's probably an art major" is a very specific yet robust pipeline
as someone who knew several weird wc elememtary schoolers on their way to become weird trans adults (including myself) i can confirm that this pipeline is very real
I'm losing it
Wow I feel so called out now
as a weird trans adult that is an art major, i'm feeling real called out rn lmao
As a weird trans adult who's also an art major I feel incredibly called out
Dovewing's natural eye color is green, but her eyes appeared blue while she had her powers because of her connection to the ancient cat Dove's Wing (who had blue eyes), changing to green when she lost her powers after the prophecy was fulfilled. Her eyes appeared golden during the drought because they were reflecting the harsh sunlight.
wha
I feel like there would be less dovewing eye colour discourse if this was canon, so I’ll just ask- is that confirmed?
Reminds me of my dad because sometimes it looks blue and sometimes it looks green (I’m talking about his eyes loll!)
Istg the Warrior Cats fandom is so amazing, cus any holes the original plot has they will just fill in with headcanons and lore
@@ZoeStone-rf9ftwhat the fuck
The interesting thing is that there's a sibling series: Wings of Fire. One of the authors who wrote for Warrior Cats made their own series, like Warriors but with dragons that had advanced civilization. The books came out back in 2012 but the fandom seems to have only been present on the internet for the past few years where it's seen massive growth.
Btw for people who want to know it’s by Tui T Sutherland and it’s sooo good
I remember discovering my current favorite insta artist bc of WOF and even though he doesn’t do WOF art anymore, his stuff still slaps and im glad to have found him!
I was a Wings of Fire kid
I've never read warriors but I'm a wof kid. I rlly need to catch up I actually stopped reading after book 12
You know how kids get into art via Warriors? Imagine that but with wof and you understand how it went for me, ty random classmate in 3rd grade that was drawing dragons and told me what book series they were from, you are why I love drawing. 10/10 book series and there is a small enough amount of books for it to be reasonable, the series is written by Tuti T Sutherland btw
The holy trinity of fandom autopsies is finally complete: Jenny Nicholson's Brony video, Sarah Z’s Homestuck video and Izzy's Warrior Cats video
Once✨🍭
Lol I’m still watching that homestuck video edit: I finished it :D
And I was in all 3 of them good god
I've watched that brony video like 4 times
I think it's better to hold off on the Homestuck video for now-I love Sarah Z's work and I think she meant well, but I feel like she rushed that one through, and it's unfortunate that a lot of the dark side of the anti-Homestuck 2 backlash went undiscussed.
I'm just waiting for a Guardians of Ga'Hoole videoessay. That was such a weird trip.
as a fan whos been reading all the books from 1st grade to present day this is like being a guest speaker veteran watching a teacher explain a war
edit: shit thats a lot of like wtf
nailed the vibe right on the head honestly
this summarizes it so well wtf
me too wtf
Are the new ones good? I dropped off around the fifth series
@@hannahhannah7002 well ok heres the thing, the broken code starts great but so far (i havent started the latest book) its fizzling out and is becoming predictable. its dealing with old plot points from arc 2 but the main characters are like... boring. except shadowsight i love that boy. bristlefrost is also pretty good when shes not with rootspring, and rootspring could be better if he just stopped and thought about anything other than bris. keep in mind these books are a way for me to turn my brain off and relax so ive most definitely forgotten boring bits that didnt stand out to my mush of a brain. i would recommend the first two books of the broken code its good
Probably no-one will see this particular comment, but just in case someone finds it interesting there was a fairly robust community of Warrior Cats roleplayers in World of Warcraft early on and likely still today. They would play as Druids which have access to a cat form very early on, and they would form guilds to represent their clans.
LOL THATS COOL
I was a major Warrior Cats kid and I've come back to reading the books as an adult and honestly it's even MORE fun now because of how wacky and insane the community and books really are. I'm often just left staring at a page in the book and going 'I'm sorry WHAT'S the target demographic?' or 'what the hell does that even MEAN?' and it's honestly really entertaining.
What do you mean by what’s the target demographic and what does that even mean.
ik i just reread the first series after like 13 years and i was reading when tigerstar basically had stonefur’s(?bluestar’s son) throat ripped out in front of the apprentices and i was like……. is this not for 11 year olds 😭😭
@@ThePcmgirl were they drunk when giving it an age rating
@@ThePcmgirlI remember reading the books when I was 8. Idk, honestly that’s probably as graphic as it gets from what I remember but I think an 11 year old can handle that amount of gore.
The biggest drama for me was when it was revealed that there was not one Erin Hunter, rather THREE Erin Hunters in a trenchcoat
Same middle school aged me was so scandalized
I was irrationally upset by this discovery
What’s a trenchcoat? Never heard of that.
@@dartthenightlight3840 It's basically like a really long jacket (almost floor length) shady people wear in the movies. The cool ones will have straps and you can pop the collar
@@bloopdeboop1707 ok.
(commercial break) (fade from black with dramatic piano) “cardi b vs warrior cats fandom”
THIS MADE ME AUDIBLY WHEEZE
Excuse me what- 0_0
congratulations this made me laugh for several minutes straight at 5 in the morning
I HAD TO PAUSE FOR A SECOND especially as someone who isn't a wc fan LOL
I don’t really like Cardi B
I always get a bit nervous when I go to look at anything about warrior cats. It's a series I hold near and dear to my heart, and while I know there are a lot of bad things about it, that doesn't mean I'm ever okay with being called cringy or stupid for liking them. My childhood was a vicious cycle of getting bullied for liking things and delving further into them to escape being bullied about them. I went into this video a bit afraid that you'd just be bashing us and I'm pleasantly surprised by this video and the in depth nature of it. So thank you, and I'll be sure to check out some of your other stuff!
Nah bash more of this
@@Zombina638 nah bash more of you
@@TheKeyToNowherenope!
I delved into this series when I was 14, now I’m 30 and have that same spark of imagination when I read them now
Idk why your scared of being cringe, everyone is into something cringe. Cringe culture itself is bad but if your cringe doesn't involve harming other people or doing something creepy it's fine. Like I think playing Fortnite is cringe but I understand and think it's fine.
You should not think it's cringe to be into something (unless you are acting like a child about it then it's a bit weird ig)
I am a youth librarian who has never read Warrior Cats, and this deep dive has made me so much more knowledgeable about the series when kids ask about it.
For everyone watching and wondering about if the cats in Warriors had balls or not... In the first book, Firestar talks heavily in the beginning about the neighboring cat who became slow and boring after going to the vet to get a "surgery" that was highly implied to be getting spayed. It was one of his main reasons for leaving his home lmfao
Neutered not spayed
its so funny to me that bluestar meets rusty and is just like “oh you still have balls? yeah sure come in” like she literally says ‘you are still a tom’ LMAO
@@Mollymauking I mean...
Gotta provide kids to the clan
That was actually one of my big issues with the books. My grandpa was a veterinarian, and spaying and neutering cats is one of the ways to prevent overpopulation and unwanted kitten deaths. The way that they acted like it was a bad thing always rubbed me the wrong way, even in middle school
@@skypaver989 Well, the books are written in the perspective of wild cats with strong opinions, strenght in numbers is very important to them. These cats also often mocked dogs but the Erin Hunters have written a series about dogs, Survivors, so it's obvious they're not against dogs, it's just the opinion of these cats. It's very likely the Erin Hunters are not against spaying and castrating cats either.
I feel like fandom culture is doing this 360 of people being into it, then finding it cringey, and finally people realizing that it was always about creativity and community and that’s great
Fnaf, Minecraft, Twilight and now warrior cats. The cycle of nostalgia and cringe moves unending.
You only stopped liking the things once you cared what other people thought, and you were only able to start liking them again once you matured past caring what they thought.
@@thanatoast Don't forget Homestuck, the cringe we made was legendary.
True!
@@thanatoast and my little pony (i’m still in it but still it is XD)
just saw this video two years after release. cute video, so many memories, so many friends featured! hope you had fun looking into our little niche of the internet.
ur amazing
About poor writing, I think it's the word choice. Because, Russian editions of Warrior Cars are fucking masterpieces, the word choice is fantastic. They put a lot of work and visible love into translating and adapting. For example, instead of directly translating "deputy" into a modern russian word "zamestitel'" which is associated with corporate powers, they named deputies "glashatai", which is an old Russian word, roughly translating to "herald", or exchanging "medicine cat" for "tselitel" - an uncommon word describing a magical healer in tribes. And it's just the names alone, i can't judge the plot, because i didn't read the original, but I think Russian translators putting such an effort in just translating names alone to create mystery and magic, could technically rewrite it more coherently. And they probably did, because sentence structure of Russian and English languages is noticeably different.
"Where they were out on the playground roleplaying feral cats" man you dont need to call me out
I hadn't even heard of warrior cats but I definitely role-played as a feral cat a few times
I was Eagleheart
I did this, 100%. And I was in middle school! The school almost shut us down for gang behavior because we called ourselves a clan.
Around the time I was reading Warrior Cats an orange kitten showed up in my backyard and soon became my beloved first pet. I thought running around with a toy mouse was the equivalent of training him to hunt and fight. When he caught his first mouse I swore up and down he was actually Firestar. You could not convince me otherwise. I had an attachment to Firestar because of Whiskee and basically saw them one in the same.
He lived to be 14. I miss that fat orange man.
Aww this was really sweet to read! This video is the first I've ever heard of this series, but despite some toxicity it seems to have really inspired some kids to use their imagination and just be kids. Sorry for your loss, I'm gonna go hug my Finnegan now
Aww how sweet❤️ as a fellow cat owner i understand your feelings. I hope he is now a beloved and happy Star Clan member!
was he a ginger cat?
@@catcat7910 he was! :)
@@kimberlyd7394 cool! Ginger cats are adorable
I read the entire first and second arc (along with a few super editions) aloud to my little brothers, and tried to give every cat a unique voice - and boy did that get hard, especially in the later books when there were multiple POVs. It was super fun though and definitely a fond memory.
The apology written for the 'eugenics troll' sounded infinitely more sincere and genuine than the numerous apology vids created by TH-camrs.
Fun fact! There's a character in the books called FoxHeart. Foxheart is slang for b***h in-universe. The clan named a cat b***h.
LMAO
Reminds me of Cockweed
@@deleteduser9755 tell me you're joking and that's not a real warrior cats character
@@millicentwood549 its like a meme in the community but they're not real
it gets weird when you realize deadpool could be a warrior name plus I remember foxpaw so excited and wanted to be called foxchaser or something like that poor baby
the like quadruple take i had to do when i saw this video in my recommendations nearly broke my neck
Nice to see you here, Blixemi! :)
ello, nice seeing you here
Hiya, Blix!
Hello Blix!
Cool seeing you here :P.
Also.
This alaso happened to me xd
probably no one will see it, but I just feel the need to share it
warrior cat's polish edition has different covers from the original series and they are so gorgeous and I love them and I just think everyone in the fandom should know about their existence
also the art shown at 22:59 is the cover art for polish edition of mapeshade's vengeance and now I'm confused
Aaaa!! Its on my bucket list to get one.
I used to always be like "i'm just a normal kid" but I could name every Warrior Cats book in timeline order, summarize every one, and had every cat memorized and laid out in a chart
me when i was 7 “mating” with the leader of shadowclan on the roblox warrior cats game: 👩💻
Me but on wolves' life: 👩💻
Meanwhile I was trying to get attention by jumping in the river
@@MoonyVoid
me who made :
hazelheart | blind | medcat | often sad :(
basically making super emo ocs lol-
Me when i was 7 with no computer or internet because of strict parents:
🐟
I would rp irl with my friend and pretend to be a medicine cat, Then I'd go collect leaves and be shocked when they were not on the playground table the next day.
When I was around 12 I discovered the Warrior Cats books and I was OBSESSED with them for serveral years. I had my own little RPG forum website where I created my own Clans, characters and stories. It was my form of escapism. I was thinking about my characters 24/7; as soon as I got home from school I went online and started roleplaying. Even after I stopped reading the books I continued to write my own Warrior Cats stories.
Anyway, this whole fandom shaped so much of my personality and I started writing stories and poetry because of it. I´m kinda thankful that my teen years were shaped by Warrior Cats.
I ran one of the roleplay websites and was active on so many of them, that was such an era of my life
I read these in my native tongue, German, throughout first until fifth grade I think. So I never noticed the bad writing, and I remember my physical hardcover books having lists of clans and their members at the start of every book - which meant some order to look back to, some spoilers too. The covers weren't paintings in Photoshop, but rather RL photos of cats with some background that partly spoiled the plot of each book. I loved that as a kid, whereas now it sometimes looks like covers of standard romance/erotica novels 😂
I also read the in German ages ago (The first three arcs, I think) and I never really noticed the inconcistencies. Since the German publisher is known for educational books and schoolbooks and also tries to keep its novels up to a certain "you could read this in school" standard, I guess, the editors were doing some extra hours, fixing this stuff.
I also read it in German, and I am currently rereading it(in English). The Editors definitively worked extra hours. 'Heiler' just sounds ten times better that 'medicine cat' (Like, they could have used healer or some new Word)
I think it are all those little Things, that make it much more enjoyable.
My boyfriends little sister is obsessed with Warrior Cats and now I’ve ruined my recommended videos trying to relate to her and now I’m in too deep
You remind me of my cool aunt who sends me warrior cats videos 👍🏼
okay wait this is super sweet tho
That’s so cute omg
you're so cute omg
That is wholesome
throwback to when i was a kid thinking that a “tortoiseshell” cat literally meant they were born with an actual tortoise shell
BRUH LMAOOO
Same bro
For me, I thought "tortoiseshell" meant a dark green. So I kept on thinking about a cat who was dark green
Bruh I thought twolegs was pronounced like twoh-legs for way too long. I felt so stupid when i realized how literal it was
@@chey8353 oh shit i thought the same thing lmao it literally took me, like, a year to realize I was saying it wrong 😂
Scourge was never an obsession for me. Being an eight year old at the time, the scene where he absolutely DESTROYS Tigerstar, the until then main baddie of the series, in a MOMENT scared and fascinated me, but I still had other favourites.
For sum reason I wanted to figure out how he got 9 lives ripped outta him at once because I was confused💀
@@Nox.x_ART I would have been more astounded if he DIDN’T get all nine lives ripped out of him after that
@@Nox.x_ART scourge hit 9 vital organs and took all his lives 💀
@@hushfur yeah. I read that on the wiki and was just like “damn 💀”
He was like the Thanos of those books maaan that was a PLOT TWIST. The book where that happens is the best book by far and I remember it being my fav
My friends and I met Tui T Sutherland at a Wings of Fire book signing, and I remember asked her why Shadow Clan is always evil while she signed the book. Basically her response was that she had to catch up on the Warriors lore.
i will never forget reading bluestar's prophecy in my 4th grade classroom and straight up sobbing in front of a bunch of my classmates
I cried when Honeyfern died in the middle of civics class
I read it at home in 2nd grade in my closet, so my mom just saw her 8 year old child sitting in a closet crying over cats
Bluestars prophecy was one of the saddest warrior books next to crookedstars promise. They're both my favs tho
Bluestar’s Prophecy is still the only book that has made me cry. 😿
felt that
Fun fact: Spiked dog collars were invented as basically armor to protect sheep dogs from wolf attacks. When wolves fight for real they usually go for the neck, with spiked collars they got a mouth full of spikes and hard leather/chain.
Spiked Collars are basically armour. Nice. Reminds me of those Conquistador dogs, but then I remember the atrocities they used those doggos for and I get sad.
I will not recount those atrocities here, so if you're curious Google it at your own risk.
@@MasoTrumoi Thanks for posting this, I learned something about history that I had never ever heard anything about before.
Oh hey that's actually some interesting info, thank you!!
That’s badass, ngl
Even the greatest of nerds can learn something everyday, thanks
We seriously need a Fallen Leaves super edition.
He has so much potential as a character but was completely abandoned by the Erins after Hollyleaf's Story and (as far as I remember) was never even included in a main series. I'm so confused by his lore.
this his so insanely real
Those who are not aware, check Tad Williams' debut novel, Tailchaser's Song. Superficially quite similar to WC, but it's more high fantasy and a hero's journey kind of story. Also 17 years older. No rabbit holes there because there's no sequels. He just wrote 1 cat book and moved to other fantasy after that. I absolutely love it.
“Smokeweed is a possible Warrior Cat name.”
*IMMEDIATELY RUNS OFF TO MAKE A NEW OC*
*sweats in the fact that someone summarized their oc plot and had a cat named weedsmoker*
So is Garfield
i have a warrior oc names smokeweed. They are my warrior sona and I treat that like a completely serious character despite their existence being a joke.
mountaindew is also probably valid to most. actually last time i was exposed to the fandom, *there are no rules*
And there's always the characters like morningwood...
This video gave me violent flashbacks about my christian afterschool club that tried to ban our warrior cats roleplays because we were "acting ungodly" or something
Shoutout to Amelia Bothe, one of the most talented animators on TH-cam who does almost exclusively Warriors MAPs (although their personal work is also insanely impressive)
The dedication we all had to this when we were teens... I created tons of fanart, wrote several fanfics, and even took photos of stray cats out in nature and pretended they were the Warrior Cats, attaching them to actual characters and sharing made-up stories of how I found them and what they were doing LOL
i have been waiting for another former weird cat/wolf girl to make a deep dive on the state of the internet in 2012, there seems to be a weird generation of animal girls who are now grown up and looking back it was such a zeitgeist of 'you had to be there' and preteen edge that will never be recreated for me again. shout out to my former weird wolf girls out there, love ya.
Yeah, true
I was one of those kind of animal girls, but instead of a cat or a wolf, I was a fucking peacock. Weird times
I've been waiting for a deep dive on warriors purely so it can dredge up memories long forgotten. former weird animal girls rise up.
man i was the warrior cats girl, the wolf girl and the horse girl, i was on another plane of existence when i was in elementary school
@@percedurza Oh my god same...damn that was a time
This is basically me, but now I’m just a furry lmao
"the second one is called MAPS"
*oh god no*
"Which stands for Multi-Animated Projects"
*whew! that was close*
dude, are you ok?
@@brynofcocoa yeah bro
i've seen this video three times now and I have that same reaction every time
MAP used to stand for that before people started using it for...those types of...”people”
@@freshcupofangst I work in a field where the term MAP is used regularly which is why it throws me off so much but it really is a shame how it's taken over terms from the art community in common vernacular.
Even as an outsider Its insane how animators that go from making warrior cats animations to other animations can nail animal anatomy and how they move so well
There is also Russian warriors game called "Catwar". It’s literally a massive weird mmo with 2D graphics and role play. It was peak popular in 2016 but is up to this day. You should check it out at least to see what a phenomenon ru fandom has left
I feel like if Warriors was real, someone would probably get curious about loud yowling coming from the woods, and would bring a flashlight, only to see herds upon herds of cats, just scratching the living shit out of each other.
the next morning animal control would be called to catch all the stray cats and neuter them
@@TheAkwarium didn’t that happen in the actual books? when their forest gets torn down and they all get put in cages?
@@moogaboogaa I seriously have no idea, but were there neutered cats in the series?
@@TheAkwarium In the first series "The cutter" was used (from my memory) to mean being taken to the vet to be spayed/neutered. I cannot recall a single instance in the first arc that "the cutter" was used to mean vet in general, just in the second arc and beyond.
Anyway. "The cutter" and neuters were mentioned a lot in the first book in particular. I think it's Bluestar that mentions Rusty is still a tom and hasn't been to the cutter yet. When explained what a cutter is, Rusty thinks of Henry, one of his neighbors who became lazy and fat after visiting the cutter. Rusty is glad that he is still a tom, and someone remarks that he is of the age where twolegs bring cats to the cutter, so they were sure he'd not be one for long.
Later during a hunting assignment (not sure what book), Firepaw attacks Smudge, who is now neutered. He remarks he smells different is fat/plump and once again is thankful he was never brought to the cutter. he lets Smudge go and gets in trouble because Tigerclaw saw him let Smudge go.
Outside of the first few books I can't recall any cat being specifically mentioned they were neutered like this. But I stopped reading at omen of the stars.
@@kieran7173 oh shit, I completely forgot about "the cutter". I've stopped reading too a long time ago
Warrior cats girls were on another level from horse girls
One would neigh at you and gallop in your direction and the other would hiss, pretend swipe at you, or throw sticks
I was one ✨🚶♀️👏🏻
@@valerius8985 I kinda hate these generalizations because first off: kids should be able to be kids, imaginative and creative without being bullied for it. Secondly because I was super into wolves and warrior cats and I never acted like how everyone stereotypes. In a way it creates sour memories around it and makes it feel like I'm unable to express my past interests and hobbies.
@@Delihlah it was a joke. I was both a horse kid and a warriors kid and still read the books to this day. Kids are free to be kids man it's just funny to look back on the weird shit we did and laugh
warrior cats and animal jam are like 90% of why i’m a furry
These books literally changed my life. I will always look back on them fondly, knowing how they basically got me through 3rd-5th grade
i used to play in that roblox warriors roleplay game and one day i accidentally called the medicine cat the “doctor cat” and it made everyone so mad at me everyone tried to start a server vote to ban me and they followed me around the map until i started crying and i quit the game
hey are you okay
As someone who read these books (out of order) in elementary school without ever learning these books had a fandom, this video feels like going to a family reunion for the first time and all of your cousins are the most bizarre people imaginable
I was almost on the same boat as you (When I was little I almost started with Omen of the Stars) but was luckily redirected to the actual first book
same here I didn't read the big chapter books but I did read the comics of side stories of Warrior cat
Howdy cousin. How’ve you been over the years
Same the first two books I purchased on my own were the first warriors book of the first arc, and the second book... of the third arc.
Same
praying for everyone who started out doing art drawing warrior cats adoptables on deviant art and never learnt how to draw people properly 😔
this is me 💔
@@ilikecats3687 didn't need to be called out like that, but I guess there are worse things to be reminded of in the morning 😔😭
cats are easier to draw anyway-
I did atleast😰
💔
i was a warrior cats girl. i had a bestie who got me into it, i didn’t stop reading them till the middle of seventh grade 💀💀. i still own the first set of them. omg i was such a nerd my favorite character was jayfeather and i thought i was so quirky. i always wore my hair in this middle part🗿. and i watched maps drew fanart, spent time scrolling through memes and fanart. I watched the warrior cats yt animated something. also u don’t really mind spottedleaf
Did anyone else play "wolfquest"? It was a multiplayer wolf survival simulator designed to teach about the ecosystem and how wolves lived. However--every server basically became warrior cats rp, even though you were literally playing as wolves, not cats.
Does anyone else remember when people started shipping Jayfeather and his stick
Okay, my memory of the books is super foggy, but I had to chime in here. I'm almost positive it was the books that were shipping Jayfeather with his stick. I'm like, 80% sure it was a real canon thing.
@@thejynxedlynx5570bhejsb that’s so wild holy shit
Yes lmaoooo
Yes. Yes I do.
I still do to this day, they are a power couple.
the recess warrior cats roleplay was such a big part of my childhood. literally the entire 1st through 3rd grade did it.
I hung out with a group of girls back in 4th grade and they indoctrinated me into their recess Warrior Cat roleplay group even though I had never touched a Warrior Cat book.
This is an international experience
god me too
PLEASE HAHA
@@tailsknuxfan101 same boat. Had no idea what the fuck was going on, but I got to be a cat, so I didn't care.
35:14 in the first book, they actually do mention neutering! not by name, since the cats don't have a name for it but they mention how one of firestar's neighbor cats from when he was a kittypet went to the vet & came back 'different'. it heavily implied that he was neutered, and mentions the behavioral changes that come with it.
I honestly love this channel because their outlook on everything is just so nice. You can just tell from the way they talk about their chosen topic- doesn't matter what it is- that they look at the world with such positivity and love and kindness. It's really refreshing to watch.
i’m sorry but the serious topic transitioning to the “cardi b stans vs warriors fans” serious intro made me laugh so hard 😭
...Chicken Doodle Soup Yeah, but grammar?
Is targeted toward teens and tweens
Most of the fandom now: 20-28
@Egg T I didn’t expect anything
They're still less twee than adult Harry Potter fans, in my opinion.
@you aren’t weeb for watching two episodes of mha and those books are on my 25 yr old bookshelf too?? Like y’all
I’ve been reading these books since 2003. THATS what I’m getting at. Most of the content creators for warriors are 20-28 years old. 🤷♀️ y’all thinking about this too much
fuck i feel old
Or late teens :’D
I used to be like a casual fan, I didn't really have internet access so I didn't even know it had a fandom. I also only read the forst series and some of the standalone books. I remember for some reason loving Whitestorm even though I can't remember anything about him. My favorite book was Crookedstar's Promise, though later I got really attached to Tallstar's Revenge.
the fact that Tui Sutherland went on to write the wings of fire series, which is just warrior cats but with dragons, is hilarious to me
I feel like the amount of Garfield plushies increasing in every video is like a cryptic SCP slowly coming to fruition
you could almost say
its like a clan
An army
He grows stronger
Get the MTF we got multiple instances of SCP-3166 on our hands
The more Garfield plushies she gets, the stronger Garfield will become.
i am embarrassed to say that i used to be that warrior cat obsessed girl who would hiss and swipe at people aggressively.
Same, i used to rp warrior cats with like 3 other people in the primary school playground-
i mean based on the profile pic and username war never changes huh
Edit: let the record show that op’s username was “nagitoes” before this comment
@@thatoneguy9582 ^ this comment is ridiculously accurate
It's great to know I wasn't the only one
I was to :') it was fun but i still get made fun of it for that even though it was like 4 years ago
I only ever read the first book in 2nd grade. It traumatized me so much because so many of my favorite characters died, so I didn't read any more besides the mangas and guide books. I was an avid warrior cat RPer, I had my own forum on Scratch where me and 3 other kids I never met irl would all RP. It was called "Clans of the Silver Prophecy" but heck if I remember what the Silver prophecy every was. Shout out to my peeps Scarstar, Wizecatz, and Echosoul. Hope you are all doing well.
I love when you draw art for your recaps it adds so much and is so cool to see your interpretation of the characters
Wait, no Roleplayers clan? In my childhood experience, the RP side was by far the biggest and most drama-filled aspect of the fandom.
god i remember the vaguely nsfw animal jam furry warrior cats roleplays
Lmao it really was. Had someone send me death threats back in the early internet forum days.
Man I got bullied out of the wc rp side so fast because I wasn’t fully into the fandom (my best friend was at the time) and I wanted to make a cat named hawkstar. My 12 y/o brain didn’t understand and I just panicked and noped out lmao
Oh god me sneaking on dial up internet to post RP replies on forums was a big part of my early teens
that was literally the only thing i knew about WC going into this video i’ll be honest
-shoutout ChatChat-
i love the art in this video so much
Oh cool the cat guy
Wait were you a warriors fan?
hey Chip. Like your vids.
Hoi chip man
Hey chip didn’t know you where a warrior cats fan
Chip knows warrior cats now I could comment on those vids about the comparisons from your vids and warriors btw I love your vids they were how I started to do photoshop
Man, I have no idea about most of the stuff your videos cover, but you have such a good narrator voice that I can't help but keep listening while playing my games
hello, you don't know me but being born in 2000 and coming from a deeply abusive home, i wanted to say thank you as you have shown me through many of your videos that i was in fact a normal / just a kid
Diary of a Wimpy Kid, Warrior Cats and Harry Potter were the holy trinity of primary school in the late 2000's
I was obsessed with warriors, harry potter, and guardians of ga'hoole. I loved guardians if ga'hoole and warriors so much I bought them again years later after losing them in a move. I luckily still had my old harry potter books.
@@yunogasai1338 I never got into the ga'hoole books but I was BIG into the wolf series by the same author
@@BobBelchersLeftBoob I love wolves of the beyond. I should probably get the rest. I only have the first three.
you should check out r/LodedDiper
@@moms_spaghetty8814 I've already been on there - I'm fascinated by what some people have managed to do with the original format of the books
I had some friends who were _really_ into this series. Reminds me of a book my mum liked called Duncton Wood, a fantasy series about moles. Some of these animations look really high quality too
I’m glad most of us can relate to everything in this video and we all had our own part in this fandom together it’s like a family 😭❤
Someone help I cannot get out of this fandom
Am I a 28-year old married lady with a full-time job and a house? Yes
Have I been working on a warriors fan-comic for six years now? Also yes
Anyone on hatena and did RP. So many clans I’ve joined
Hey, at least you’re making something! I’m only slightly older and all I’m doing is still reading the books lmfao. (No but for real your comic sounds awesome)
that sounds awesome!!! is there anywhers i can find your comic?
Why do you need help? It sounds like you're having fun. Now if you quit your job, get divorced, and are forced to file bankruptcy because you're obsessively drawing a comic and can't control yourself then you might want to have a chat with a professional. Who cares if you're into something? I mean, it's not like your fandom is crack or heroine.
Don't fight it, just enjoy it if it brings you happiness.
welp. the burning question of “is anyone still reading those soap opera feral cat novels i was obsessed about when i was 10” has been answered.
I was super into the books but wasn't really allowed on the internet that much so all this fandom news is new to me. I am just glad someone else read the series.
I'm reading a series right now
@@rawcookiedough7518 same
I stopped after the orginal ending. Where Firestar died after he lost his last life.
@@Kas_Styles yea after the last hope i preeeaty much consider it a diff seirise
\its still good but they coluda stop it there
I love how well you covered the drama. I only know WC stuff my friend has told me. Your speed of speaking and structure is nice to follow and flows well. Great job on editing a big video like this as well. (Or props to your editor if you have onel
I love the fact that they couldn't even remember when a cat died. I'm not in the fandom but I'm just wondering if there is like a huge fight over which death is canon or something like that.
Don't forget the "every medicine cat after Featherwhisker was forced to be a medicine cat" drama
Wait WHAT? I wasn’t aware of this at all
@@ImaFreakinNarwhal it makes sense. None of them wanted to be medicine cats. They were just bad at hunting and fighting/they had problems focusing on that stuff. So, TO THE MED CAT DEN YOU GO
Leaf pool?
“To Doctor Dungeon, Child.”
@@stupidwarriorkitties this sentence has no right being as funny as it is
I once won a pet fish at a carnival and- going through my warrior cats phase- I named her Spottedleaf. (I was 9 at this time btw) Pretty soon after that I got to the part of the series where Spottedleaf dies, and my poor fish died the very next day. For YEARS I was convinced that if you name your pet after a fictional character, and then that character dies, then your pet is doomed to die as well. Thank you Erin Hunter(s) for that I guess.
I’m so sorry to laugh!😭😂❤️ I’m sure spottedleaf is in a happy place (: but that’s such a coincidence!😅 I would’ve thought the same!
Kinda sad ngl. RIP Spottedleaf, you were a great fish.
Aww :(
I named my fish Mickey (After one of the dogs in survivors) And my fish hasn’t died yet. And neither has the character
They should really stop giving fish out like that
I read it because me and the author have the same name. 4 years later and it’s now a special interest that my teen self drift to and from so this was bloody hysterical to watch because you’ve summed it up so perfectly-
dovewing’s eye color is color changing. like literally imagine that one setting on led lights that fades into a bunch of different colors. That is what dovewing’s eyes look like.
Honestly warriors has remained probably the least problematic fandom ive ever been in. were just a bunch of people who love these funky little forest cats.
Sameeeee, it also helped me connect with a bunch of people and get into role playing (acting) and creative things like drawing and writing and story telling.
(Also wanted to mention I love you profile)
Yeah. It says a lot about the fandom that one of the biggest “discourses” is over which eye color is canon
really? that's interesting! i definitely had the opposite experience lol it was a lot of angsty middle schoolers
Well umm it was pretty toxic when I was there, happy there are ppl with other experiences. Shippers were quite insane 😂
I’m honestly surprised that this school library book series has such a large fandom.
This girl I knew who had horses used to read these books in elementary
True
I read them religiously and never saw them in any libraries, in my country they just started translating them few years ago
so we all found it in the same place huh-
Animorphs did the same thing. So did guardians of gahoole 😅
Really enjoyed this overview of the fandom! I'm part of the MAP and animation community in general, and you gave a really great breakdown of that! I'll definitely be linking people to this video when they ask about MAPs!
Yo I have questions
Genuinely thank you for this video! ❤ so nostalgic!
I’m going to check out all the beautiful artwork now, especially Into the wild movie! 😊
I have a list of other canonically possible warrior names:
- Littlefoot
- Bluetooth
- Morningwood
- Ravenclaw
- Deadpool
- Snakeheart (Similar to “Foxheart”, as both are an insult. But, the difference here is that is hasn’t been used in canon yet)
Rockstar
Would Potroast be considered a viable warrior cats name?
Meet Morningwood, with 8 mates and 30 different children, hes broke from being sued for child support
Here's more
-Fleshlight
-Skyrim
-Black Mesa
-Starbuck
-Liquid Ocelot
-Heatstroke
-Moisthole
ravenclaw was indeed used in the books
I’ve long left the fandom, but I had a head canon about how Scourge’s color was like a mood ring
This is my new favorite headcanon.
Yes
Hhhhh
Back when I was in the Fandom, I'd make his collar yellow specifically to annoy people. Worked every time. There's even comments on some of the videos on my channel of people complaining, it's great.
I just wanna say i love your rendition of the cats in the introduction. Very cute!
While listening to this I got finished with a M A P part for an oc project. I love your videos and I listen to them while drawing/cleaning.
As a former mega warrior cats fan in 4th/5th grade, I’m SO glad I didn’t discover it had a fandom on the internet
Honestly same. I only recently found out when I saw my sister playing the roblox game for it.
me too, one of the things i’m glad i didn’t experience bc my parents refused to get a working computer that wasn’t from the late 90s
HONESTLY SAME luckily all I found of the fandom around 4th grade was a "make your own warrior cat name based on your birthdate" thing
Lol- i’m glad i’ve found all the fandoms i’ve found (well from the things i’m fan of or was)😅 even tho i have cringe mlp art on the internet what i posted when i was 10/11 and that i’ve seen TOO MUCH NSFW on a young age and such stuff, i’m glad it helped me with my art and helped me find things i like and yeah warriors fandom kind of helped me aswell staying happy^^
Same.