As an Ayaka simp I’m coming around that wrio is better overall, it’s just that ayaka is better if freeze is viable. If not then she’s a little worse than him
I'm honestly just glad that Ayaka wasn't powercrept to obscurity like some not-so-lucky older hydro characters. I think it's already safe to say that she'll remain meta for the rest of the game, as Snezhnaya's release will probably just buff her along with cryo as a whole.
Word. I was so happy to finally get and build Yelan and Kokomi... then Furina came out. Not complaining - we're spoiled for choice - but it feels like I wasted my time. Now debating whether I even want Neuvillete because I know he'll bench my Ayato and Tartaglia.
@@John_II Well, it's somewhat different for me, as I've finally benched Xingqiu with Furina's release, and I think it's a good thing, a four star shouldn't have been this powerful to begin with. But I honestly don't think that she powercreeps Yelan & Kokomi, as they're still very good with & without her. As for Childe & Ayato, it's them that I was originally referring to, and for them the situation is completely different. They've pretty much lost their specific niche best-performing setups built around them with Neuvillette's release - he simply does more & does it better in the same teams. Frankly, I very much doubt that you'll use those two ever again if you end up getting Neuvillette.
That Ayaka is NOT getting her burst back with that ER. She's very front-loaded with damage too which is good against shorter fights but can be more of a problem in longer abyss floors where Wriothesley will not struggle as much with sustained damage. Overall I think Ayaka is still stronger but this video makes it look like she wipes the floor with him when they'll actually be much closer in a normal abyss
wrong combo , never used the passive of wriothesley . first you need to activate rebuke : skill + na x5 + ca x1 + burst . if you use burst or even not use his rebuke with no stacks applied then what's the point in even comparing
@@colleixd umm to justify my point that shes falling off in abyss? Other units can offer more team options now and that Ayaka is no longer a must have dps.
@@reineslee736 no dps is must have in this game and most if not all units have only one or two singular good team just like ayaka. And she's not even that low, she has like 30% usage rate almost the same as hutao who is arguably the best single target dps. Also only dps who is above her is Haitham 64%, neuv 61%, childe 44%, 35.7% for yae and half of they aren't even used more than ayaka it's just more people who own them use them if you know how usage rate is calculated you'll know.
Honestly Ayaka is the best against enemies that are stationary or stay in place which is why freeze is so good for her. Wriothesley is best in Melt and latest BurnMelt Teams and is i guess more flexible then Ayaka which is the only thing i can say that makes him better then Ayaka. And not Burst Reliant Also change Zhongli to Shenhe in Wriothesleys Melt Team
I dunno his best team has bennet in it and he is quite restrictive. Ayaka burt isnt that bad if you know the enemy movement patterns and it only sucks againt mobs that get pushed back howevery all those mobs can be frozen.
@@AliKing.0_0 , because only the first 5/7 ticks get quills. If you use it again, while Ayaka's burst is ticking, you get more quills and a lot more damage. This is why you want her C1 - makes it easier to do. At C0 you have to do Shenhe's E way in advance of Ayaka's burst.
Skill issue. In melt, use Shenhe instead of Zhongli, and you need to get his 3rd, 5th, and charge attacks melt. If you're so braindead about his kit at C0, just use N3C combo repeatedly, which is almost similar to Hu Tao's playstyle. And there's no need to use his burst if you are fighting a boss. Also, why did you even stop punching at 0:49?
My guy, how did you even manage to find a single living breathing person that has fun while driving manual? Is he an 80 year old former tractor driver or something?
@@Gol_D_Looks I have a license and a car in automatic already. Tried driving manual a few times, truly a god-awful experience, I don’t understand what’s so appealing to you about it. In my country it’s only viable if you live in an actual provincial shithоle with unpaved roads.
@@whiteangel1138 It's funny that you were angry just because your favorite character didn't get over Ayaka. They used the same team and yet he is not at the same level as her lol
@@whiteangel1138 You completely ignored Xiangling who is doing half of DMG in his team and Zhongli res... If there was Kazuha.. it would be rather Xiangling who will carry this team.
@@whiteangel1138 she isn't doing any reaction and still win he id doing melt, team with shenhe and with yelan, and its not even close, omg stop crying in every comment, You're making a fool of yourself, I'm telling you this for your own good.
@@whiteangel1138How pathetic you are. You didn’t finish watching the video and wrote a billion comments about how “Rizzley doesn’t have Shenhe and Kazuha, it’s unfair 😭” when I pointed out to you that author actually used Shenhe and Kazuha with Rizzley, you just ignored it and started looking for the slightest flaws in the video, just to show that Rizzley is on the same level of power as Ayaka (even though he clearly isn't), etc., etc. But the truth is that even if the author had swirled pyro instead of cryo, and even if they had canceled NA4, Rizzley wouldn't have won anyway because Ayaka's ultimate is too strong for the wolf boy to compete with.
@@whiteangel1138i think its not a biggie deal, since her E produce a lot of energy, also she funnels a lot of er on freeze team like diona,layla, especially with fav weapons
@@whiteangel1138shenhe doesn’t need to catch her own particles after the first rotation so that’s not an issue. And ayaka only needs around 20 percent more er for abyss which is literally a non issue. Mona is Mona and kazuha can run fav
@@whiteangel1138not to mention they’re using a bad sword on Ayaka if they run amenoma they can run 0 er on Ayaka which lets them focus on more offensive stats.
@@whiteangel1138and how do you know the shenhe in the video is stacking attack instead of er if you didn’t see the build? And lessening up on attack and adding er wouldn’t make that big of a difference! And both runs could definitely be optimized but Ayaka would still come out on top Becuase of her frontloaded damage. It doesn’t matter how much damage he can do in a rotation for showcases it’s how fast they get it out which is why Ayaka is going to win no matter what
Nope, i have both, and i prefer neuviliate,,ayaka need high ER, because ayaka need burst too, while neuviliate dont need burst if you know how to use him with full potential
seems a fair comparison. I like to pull him because cool gameplay but seems hydro archon will coming next & my ayaka still good with chongyun can become a good backup, I will skip for now
Yea. He can be fun in events and open world. If you want to run him in abyss, prob go for melt or hyperbloom teams which are carried by characters like Xiangling and Nahida :)
@@whiteangel1138 nope, you are just dumb. Even with the same supports cryo wrio took 23sec, Saying how ayaka was carried by good supports you are just being biased.
even if wrio isn’t better than ayaka, please play him right lmao 😭
As an Ayaka simp I’m coming around that wrio is better overall, it’s just that ayaka is better if freeze is viable. If not then she’s a little worse than him
I'm honestly just glad that Ayaka wasn't powercrept to obscurity like some not-so-lucky older hydro characters. I think it's already safe to say that she'll remain meta for the rest of the game, as Snezhnaya's release will probably just buff her along with cryo as a whole.
Whos hydro character was power crept?
Childe is still meta and Ayato has never been on meta.
@musicallynepalgunj6269nah man it's kokomi who was powercrept by furina
@musicallynepalgunj6269 Ayato was never meta cuz Childe exists.
Word.
I was so happy to finally get and build Yelan and Kokomi... then Furina came out. Not complaining - we're spoiled for choice - but it feels like I wasted my time.
Now debating whether I even want Neuvillete because I know he'll bench my Ayato and Tartaglia.
@@John_II Well, it's somewhat different for me, as I've finally benched Xingqiu with Furina's release, and I think it's a good thing, a four star shouldn't have been this powerful to begin with. But I honestly don't think that she powercreeps Yelan & Kokomi, as they're still very good with & without her. As for Childe & Ayato, it's them that I was originally referring to, and for them the situation is completely different. They've pretty much lost their specific niche best-performing setups built around them with Neuvillette's release - he simply does more & does it better in the same teams. Frankly, I very much doubt that you'll use those two ever again if you end up getting Neuvillette.
That Ayaka is NOT getting her burst back with that ER. She's very front-loaded with damage too which is good against shorter fights but can be more of a problem in longer abyss floors where Wriothesley will not struggle as much with sustained damage. Overall I think Ayaka is still stronger but this video makes it look like she wipes the floor with him when they'll actually be much closer in a normal abyss
wrong combo , never used the passive of wriothesley . first you need to activate rebuke : skill + na x5 + ca x1 + burst . if you use burst or even not use his rebuke with no stacks applied then what's the point in even comparing
Wrio has better flexibility. Ayaka is kind of falling off in abyss since a lot of enemies are unfreezable and shes very limited to only freeze teams.
I still use my ayaka and had 36 stars this abyss
@@Tuoace yes but shes not the most used DPS no more so yeah.
@@reineslee736who cares about the usage rate? Ayaka is still very solid unit for both sides and she's fairly used too considering the abyss cycle.
@@colleixd umm to justify my point that shes falling off in abyss? Other units can offer more team options now and that Ayaka is no longer a must have dps.
@@reineslee736 no dps is must have in this game and most if not all units have only one or two singular good team just like ayaka. And she's not even that low, she has like 30% usage rate almost the same as hutao who is arguably the best single target dps. Also only dps who is above her is Haitham 64%, neuv 61%, childe 44%, 35.7% for yae and half of they aren't even used more than ayaka it's just more people who own them use them if you know how usage rate is calculated you'll know.
Why not use charged attack on wriosely
I think it's better to compare with characters that have similar kit like yoimiya, ayato and wanderer
just made the video with yoimiya vs wrio: th-cam.com/video/Zkt7paSIhmY/w-d-xo.html :)
Honestly Ayaka is the best against enemies that are stationary or stay in place which is why freeze is so good for her. Wriothesley is best in Melt and latest BurnMelt Teams and is i guess more flexible then Ayaka which is the only thing i can say that makes him better then Ayaka. And not Burst Reliant
Also change Zhongli to Shenhe in Wriothesleys Melt Team
I dunno his best team has bennet in it and he is quite restrictive. Ayaka burt isnt that bad if you know the enemy movement patterns and it only sucks againt mobs that get pushed back howevery all those mobs can be frozen.
can you compare him with yoimiya? Both are pretty similar scalings wise
What if he doesnt have yoimiya?
@@jubayerislam7412they have yoi, they did a comparison with her vs lyney
th-cam.com/video/Zkt7paSIhmY/w-d-xo.html here you go :) yoimiya vs wrio
@@lifefull2249 thank you!
This is unfair, why compair him to Hoyoverse daughter? Lol
That's the exiled stepson wdym?
Such an honour for Wrio to be compared to Ayaka... because Ayaka is one of THE BEST DPS in the game.
Hehe
What a positive attitude and good sportsmanship. We don't see that often in comparison videos.
Well, not anymore. She has been powercrept by the likes of Neuvillette and Alhaitham.
Very nice! However, Ayaka's run could have been shorter if you had used Shenhe's E twice. Can be done even without C1. C1 just makes it easy.
Why use it twice??
@@AliKing.0_0 , because only the first 5/7 ticks get quills. If you use it again, while Ayaka's burst is ticking, you get more quills and a lot more damage. This is why you want her C1 - makes it easier to do. At C0 you have to do Shenhe's E way in advance of Ayaka's burst.
Skill issue. In melt, use Shenhe instead of Zhongli, and you need to get his 3rd, 5th, and charge attacks melt. If you're so braindead about his kit at C0, just use N3C combo repeatedly, which is almost similar to Hu Tao's playstyle. And there's no need to use his burst if you are fighting a boss. Also, why did you even stop punching at 0:49?
It's like comparing automatic vs manual but we all know in cars men like to have more fun on driving manual transmission.
That's right, burn melt Ganyu without a shielder. God, that team is hard without a well invested Yangu.
My guy, how did you even manage to find a single living breathing person that has fun while driving manual? Is he an 80 year old former tractor driver or something?
@@vladdyru you don't understand because you haven't driven a car yet. Men who drive manual will laugh at you for driving an automatic. 🤭
@@Gol_D_Looks I have a license and a car in automatic already. Tried driving manual a few times, truly a god-awful experience, I don’t understand what’s so appealing to you about it. In my country it’s only viable if you live in an actual provincial shithоle with unpaved roads.
@@vladdyru oh, I take back what I said but men will really laugh at you if you only know automatic.
At least he tried his best 😂
@@whiteangel1138 Are you seriously hurting yourself because of a 3D character? how pathetic 🤣
@@whiteangel1138 It's funny that you were angry just because your favorite character didn't get over Ayaka. They used the same team and yet he is not at the same level as her lol
@@whiteangel1138 You completely ignored Xiangling who is doing half of DMG in his team and Zhongli res... If there was Kazuha.. it would be rather Xiangling who will carry this team.
@@whiteangel1138 she isn't doing any reaction and still win he id doing melt, team with shenhe and with yelan, and its not even close, omg stop crying in every comment, You're making a fool of yourself, I'm telling you this for your own good.
@@whiteangel1138How pathetic you are.
You didn’t finish watching the video and wrote a billion comments about how “Rizzley doesn’t have Shenhe and Kazuha, it’s unfair 😭” when I pointed out to you that author actually used Shenhe and Kazuha with Rizzley, you just ignored it and started looking for the slightest flaws in the video, just to show that Rizzley is on the same level of power as Ayaka (even though he clearly isn't), etc., etc. But the truth is that even if the author had swirled pyro instead of cryo, and even if they had canceled NA4, Rizzley wouldn't have won anyway because Ayaka's ultimate is too strong for the wolf boy to compete with.
Ayaka still better 😢
@@whiteangel1138i think its not a biggie deal, since her E produce a lot of energy, also she funnels a lot of er on freeze team like diona,layla, especially with fav weapons
@@whiteangel1138 🤣🤣🤣📚💊🍼
@@whiteangel1138shenhe doesn’t need to catch her own particles after the first rotation so that’s not an issue. And ayaka only needs around 20 percent more er for abyss which is literally a non issue. Mona is Mona and kazuha can run fav
@@whiteangel1138not to mention they’re using a bad sword on Ayaka if they run amenoma they can run 0 er on Ayaka which lets them focus on more offensive stats.
@@whiteangel1138and how do you know the shenhe in the video is stacking attack instead of er if you didn’t see the build? And lessening up on attack and adding er wouldn’t make that big of a difference! And both runs could definitely be optimized but Ayaka would still come out on top Becuase of her frontloaded damage. It doesn’t matter how much damage he can do in a rotation for showcases it’s how fast they get it out which is why Ayaka is going to win no matter what
how about multiwave enemies
Okay too be fair tho if you use a woodsith the time is drastically cut down
Finally someone actually made this
Hey bro can you do neuvillette vs ayaka?
Ayaka will be stronger than him against bosses and he will be stronger against small monsters, I think.
Nope, i have both, and i prefer neuviliate,,ayaka need high ER, because ayaka need burst too, while neuviliate dont need burst if you know how to use him with full potential
For solo damage, neuviliate win if against primo geovishap
@@abdaslambn9309 nahh you're hella wrong
@@abdaslambn9309 he is also good against big bosses
seems a fair comparison. I like to pull him because cool gameplay but seems hydro archon will coming next & my ayaka still good with chongyun can become a good backup, I will skip for now
Tbh Archon's do rerun fairly often. So you may wanna pull for him if you really like him. Otherwise I'd actually recommend rosaria
Wriothesle is single target. Ayaka wins.
Seems like Wriothesley's best burst damage is with melt while his cryo team might be better for sustained damage or open world exploration :)
Bro u did melt for rezly and ayaka no
Thanks a lot! This means, I'd rather crown my Ayaka than pull for Wriothesley
Why are you using zhongli
I feel like he’s better for just exploring and doing small quests or clearing enemy camps but boss and domain wise Ayaka is definitely better
Yea. He can be fun in events and open world. If you want to run him in abyss, prob go for melt or hyperbloom teams which are carried by characters like Xiangling and Nahida :)
@@whiteangel1138 nope, you are just dumb. Even with the same supports cryo wrio took 23sec, Saying how ayaka was carried by good supports you are just being biased.
@@whiteangel1138HAHAHHA😂😂😂
😭Waaaah Rizzly better than Ayaka😭😭Waaah😭u don't understand!!!Its propaganda!!!😢😢😓😭😭
@@whiteangel1138 Its youtube bug, but still...Did you watch the video?
@@whiteangel1138 Hello??
Will you answer me??
Ayaka is better in freeze wriothesley specially c1 in melt
Ayaka is still best dps in freeze
Yet again melt wrio team it is the most recommended
Glad I did not pull for him LOL
RIP Wiro
😂😂Bro you didn't had to obligerate him that bad, let him have his stage...
Incredibly bad Wrio gameplay.
Wrio = 1/3 ayaka
Ayaka = 1/3 wriot c1
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