Assasins: Kills one target quickly and tries to escape. Qiyana: Dashes in, stuns and oneshots 3 enemies with aoe, sits invis for 5 consecutive seconds, oneshots another person and then escapes.
@@mrskull6216 Does the durability patch out yet ? Because yesterday my friend got one shot by Qiyana in 0.5s, so I just feel the patch isn't released yet XD
As somebody who regularly duos with an asol one trick it's because they have gotten so comfortable that their champion has a near 0% pick or ban rate that they can play him every game, so when he is picked by the enemy team it's a sad time
I'm so glad you actually mentioned Kennen. People legit forget that he exists then he performs well in Worlds and everyone starts spamming the fuck outta him. I'm so glad he's not played much otherwise he would be my permaban. Honorable mention to Jayce, extreme lane bully that deals loads and loads of damage. If you dare touching a minion you basically explode while facing him.
I completely forgot how much I hate Kennen lol. He's so fucking annoying and worst of all is that he's pretty trashy, so not only does he make laning miserable, he gives you wins with a bad taste on your mouth.
Thing about GP is he’s balanced by his mana problem and breaking barrels comes down to who has better timing (GP has an advantage of course but you still got a shot). Jayce on the other hand can bully you with his range for free and if you ever get on top of him he sends you flying backwards and deals like 10% max health damage while he does. I’d rather fight GP all day
Number 1, Aurelian Sol. After terrorising the rift since release, Asol has consistently been the most OP champion despite Riot’s best efforts to fix this
One thing you forgot about Akshan: I swear he is the only champion that is capable of tilting teammates with his voice-overs. There's nothing like making an embarassing mistake, having teammates spam-ping the "?", and then suddenly re-appear in the fountain with Akshan saying "Dear friends, please stop dying. -Love, Akshan."
gwen is pretty bad for that. there are some ones that just push me over the edge. (plus most gwen mains are either extremely toxic racists, or think qwen is cute so its a lose lose dying either way)
As a toplaner, I would just remove Tryndamere from the game. If he's even or above you 'til 6, you're just screwed up: wins short trades due to q, wins extended trades due to passive and R, you can't outrun him if you're losing a trade because he will permablink into you, burn ghost or slow you, you can't win extended trades against him because he just presses a button and now you can't kill him, and all he takes is run you down with crits, slowdowns, blinks and ghosts if u try to escape, or just blink out of every situation. There is no counterplay to that unless you're playing a ranged top, a Lillia top or a Jax, and the fact they want to rework him just scares me. He's even getting buffs now, just permaban.
@@maddog_majima9553 not if you know how to play to your champs abilitys If you get cdr and much ap trynda cant do sht You perma blind him and he will die everytime he goes all in on you
Did you notice that Wild Rift had very few monster champions at first? And so they had to add a bunch all at once (Rammus, Renekton, Kha'Zix) because people complained. I think that is what LoL 2 would look like, a game full of young, attractive human champions that Riot knows will sell skins.
Thank you for this word conceptulized, I was having an extentential crisis earlier but now it's all perfect life has meaning and I do have a place in the world,conceptulized
@@TremiX911 broken or not he is overall just pretty annoying to deal with as a champion whether bad or good. Sorta like how people don't actually care as much if a champ is broken unless they are either outrageously broken to the point of them not being able to lose or they are just annoying. People call Yasuo broken whether how good or bad he is because he is simply annoying and I think the same applies to Yone. It's like how orianna was one of the biggest picks in pro play for a really long time but no ones complains about her since they don't find her kit as annoying.-
I think Viego is one of the most counter intuitive designs in league. He feels as snowball and reset heavy as Master Yi, but he can punish you if he gets ahead OR if you get ahead, since he can steal your items. Considering his thematic as the Ruined King and the lord of the black mist, I've always thought an old-Mordekaiser style ult would fit him well if he ever came out, so when he was released, I was really disappointed.
Same. The champ is overloaded af, he only steals people's kits for their dashes and CC and then returns to Viego to be cancerously op again. I wish they would stop making auto attack champions, from the past 14 champions, 10 of the last 15 champions pretty much just auto attack you to death, some with a few abilities they throw in now and then. There's no room for outplay potential when being 20 meters away from them makes them immediately three-shot you with undodgable bullshit.
The issue with viego is that his base kit is hot garbage. W and ult are super mediocre abilities in a vacuum, his E and Q are only OK, nothing special. His passive takes up way too much of his power budget, so he ends up being the only skirmisher in the game whose base kit offers basically no defensive options. Fiora has W and passive heal, sylas has W and E (possibly ult too), gwen W, jax R and E belveth has her E, kayn has E and R, kled has his passive, master yi has W, tryndamere has R and Q, yasuo has passive and W, yone has E and w, lillia has R and movespeed for kiting, riven has Q and E. Viego has nothing. If you can't straight up statcheck or one-combo your target, most other melee champs will dumpster you because they have something to help them survive, while the best viego gets is the camouflage on his e
I hate Viego, or I would say, I so disapointed when he release. Swain, a general, stand for Noxus's "Vision"(W). Azir, the Emperor,has an entire army. Viego, Ruined King, who supposed to "command" the Mist: hide inside the Mist, hide inside other's body.When not, fight people with a sword. Just an angry simp.
Me too. I thought the RK is a juggernaut. Or a battle mage like the Witch King and I always pictured him as an ugly pasty wraith with hints of his former handsome looks but just twisted but I guess he needs to be commercialized. Thus we got an edgy emo boy with a Walmart frostmourne
As a Kennen main, I hate that combo too. It's not fun, and it makes Kennen a truly ult dependent champ, disregarding everything else about him. That's why I usually don't buy Zhonya, unless necessary, and go for Riftmaker. It makes his ult less deadly, however he can actually use his other abilities, without dying after a single combo from a support.
12:10 my god this just reawakened a memory I’d repressed. My team plays an awesome teamfight, going 4 for 0 and positioning for baron. The 3/13 yone hits a nice 5 man ult (which at least three of us were clearly not inside the indicator for, but I digress). Cool, wp, he probably takes a good chunk off of our team and maybe stops the baron. Nah, fuck that, he *oneshots our entire team* at two items (shieldbow + IE ofc), straight through defensive items like zhonyas (not the active ofc), then proceeds to half the baron by himself before his team shows up to finish it off and give them such a massive gold swing that they manage to snowball and end the game from there. It’s so infuriating to see that no matter how hard I dumpster a yone, if he farms a side lane for 5 mins and hits his two item spike, he’ll be unstoppable regardless.
I mean after the team fight your team evn tho they did good would still have a small health after it so a yone getting a penta isn't that impressive but as you stated aparently 3 people weren't inside the ult indicator wich is the big problem of yone, a good ult is supposed to be a rewarding and and exiting moment because it's game changing now when it's not that Hard to make a good ult it destroys it's whole pourpouse and the whole 3/13, when i get destroyed as mundo i'am useless because mundo relies on doing great because having more regen then the enemie is his gimick now yone and yasuo can get destroyed and still be usefull because both have abilitys that don't relie on scaling to work (if yone is 13/0 or 0/13 his ult still CC's you if yasuo was afk until 10 minutes of the game his Wind wall still blocks projectiles) but both are assasins not frontlines that need to absorb the most projectiles and autos possible to defend the team so all their abilitys should scale because they are assasins that need to get rewarded for kills and get punished for not getting any.
I remember when I started playing league me and the jg caught out a Yone in the side lane and he was able to win because every 4 seconds we were knocked up and he got a shield every 8. After "skillfully outplaying" us instead of backing after being at 80 health he Qed a minion twice and went up to half hp.
I don't want any champion removed from the game. I want champions that are annoying to face, have overtuned kits (not in numbers) or just plain stupid champions to be made fair to play both as and against. I'm aware that's wishful thinking and against the very biased nature of this video, but I can dream. And no, Yuumi does not count. I'm talking about champions, not items.
@@jaopedrorelesbeles As I said, since you didn't get the joke, we're talking about champions. Yuumi is an _item,_ it's not that she should be removed, it's that she should have never existed in the first place.
@@andrewswingle8825 Sarcasm, people. There's a thing called sarcasm. If you're really hard-pressed to find the reasoning, the figurative gold you're paying is your sanity for having that abomination leech off of you for the entire game, _anything_ goes. Or, just like rune items, they do not need to be paid for, especially since it's someone else making the choice of picking her. Calling her an item is a far better option than the nasty leech that she is, since that would ruffle her mains' feathers the wrong way... If they could read.
The main issue of GP is the 40%armor ignored on kegs. I can understand that he is supposed to burst, but in lategame he legit burst even tanks. That and the fact that he is a lane bully, that scales incredibly, with free gold generation thanks to first strike and Q passive.
@@googloocraft1217 40% ignored armor, plus LDR, plus some lethality here an there. But please, tell me how to build against him. I remember barrels that dealt 1/2 of my health as cho'gath full armor with 12 stacks. That damage is just too much for a basic ability. Even if it is a very conditional skillshot, it hits too hard and if the enemy has no mobility it's not so hard to land
@@LPh976 i guess the hefty damage is supposed to be a reward for landing the move in the first place. theoretically you have to walk in the range of a very obvious trap, so either GP outplayed you or you were an idiot for moving in that range in the first place. the problem is the barrel can be stealthed in bushes, and GP can shoot a barrel THEN put a new one before the chain reaction is complete. the result is a surprise attack that can cripple teams and offers no risk to GP himself. at least assassins have to go in to do their damage. the balanced thing about this is that multiple barrels do not stack damage on the same champ, and the barrels themselves have a hefty cooldown. still a small consolation when two regular skills combined can be more potent than an ultimate
@@Underworlder5 in a teamfight, the tank cannot just "move away". Your duty is to eat slows/roots that would otherwise hit the dps, you have to be near the enemy to be of any menace (75% of your damage is close range). Moreover, it is not a flashy shot that you can have much time to dodge: wrt other flashy animations GP's is quite negligible and can be overlooked. Any skillshot "can be dodged" but almost none does the damage of a keg. Just to make a comparison: Rumble's R does a comparable damage, but you have plenty of time to move away, and it is an ultimate.
I agree with a lot of the ones mentioned in the comments so far, but my salt flavored choices are: pyke because I hate playing against a good one and I refuse to play him myself, and Kalista because I still have nightmares from when the meta favored her
Don't forget that if your own support picks pyke they think they have the right to take the kills even without there ult and when you "steal" them one kill they begin to mess up your farm...
I also want to piss people off, so i am gonna post my own list just to see how much we agree. 10: Kaisa, she is supposed to be the adc that "adapts" her build according to the situation but every kaisa will always build whatever lord mobafire said it has the best winrate. 9: Samira, she is yasuo but with extra range and a free aoe nuke that heals her and has no cooldown and the melee aa are extra damage for not kiting. 8: Quinn, unless she misplays, you cant get close to her as a melee champ in the top lane, so you cant play the game. 7: Rengar, if he is having fun, no one else is. 6: Fiora, she just beats you because haha %true damage + healing + dashes + slow + free crit, and riposte is just broken. 5: Le Blanc, if she gets one kill you cant play the lane anymore, and she is super safe. 4: Sylas, can fail every skill shot, gap close anyway with W, heals all his hp and can use every ult in the game. 3: Yone, the stronges champ in the game in my opinion, high physical/magic/true damage, free trades with E, tons of cc thanks to 3Q and R, good synergy with life steal, no mana costs, low cooldowns, Amazing Scaling, good early/midgame, no weaknesses 2: Akali, she is a fucking battlerite character in league of legends 1: Fizz, he always gets fed when i am not playing mid and then i have to face him when he already has 10 kills, fuck this champ. i will never stop banning him. Bonus: Nilah has every tool to handle range champs as a melee champion (extra aa range, W is literaly jax counter, and 2 targeted Dashes,), and also has giant value thanks to the extra healing and shielding, free armor pen, AND EXTRA EXP.
10, the fact that people are building a champion wrong doesn't mean it should be remeoved 9, agree 8, that's how every ranged top works 7, that's how assassins work 6, true but you forgot about the invincibility on her w 5, agree 4, agree, yone has only one weakness, yone players are shit at league 3, agree but not in a way you said it. For me the problem with sylas is he is basically unstoppable if you have a low damage comp in you team (2 or more tanks). If he can get a few items you basically can't kill him, and he does not have to hit anything for that to happen 2, agree 1, he's an assasin, and I don't know a single assassin which is fun to play against.
When kai'sa AP was meta, I built her AD galeforce Now the kraken slayer is meta, I still build galeforce I just enjoy rocketbelt and galeforce as items
I'd also argue that since you put both Samira and yone... You could consider yasuo Unlimited dashes and says no to the entire kit of half the champions in this game, playing control mage or adc against him is really reality really REALLY frustrating
@@doomkingraye7692 that is the giga chad way to play kaisa, also, i dont know why but i just dont hate yasuo as much, he i really strong but at least i feel like i have windows to fight when he doesnt have his W, i still think he is strong, but i wouldn't remove him from the game, (actually, i dont want any champ to be removed from the game, with a few changes a lot of this champs would be cool, i just dont like them the way they are now)
bel'veth for me. Its not that she is broken her damage numbers arnt amazing but playing against her makes me feel like no matter what I do she will escape and then scale to 5.0 attack speed at 20 min.
Okay I can agree with your list but I have a deep personal grudge against senna. I am an adc main who prefers playing champs like xayah, aphelios and kai'sa, so very short ranged adc's. Normally that's not that much of a problem but against a senna sup I just can't play the game because she does so much damage while not having to farm, scaling infinatly, having aoe cc and healing for a tone. On top of that she also has her global ult so even if she is stuck in bot bullying me to all hell she can still shield her 1/5 irelia who gets the big shutdown on our jungler who gets instantly tilted and runs it down mid! Yeah I hate this champ...
The one not in the list I'd pick on the top is probably Viego, his passive grants him 15 basic abilities + 5 zhonya's + 5 stridebreaker + 5 heal in fight (if you only count till last enemy that's still 12+4+4+4) with that amount of value, his basic kit should be weak, but his basic kit also deals massive amount of damage that can 100-0 squishies, solokill normal jungler champion lv1-2, not to say there's excessive amount of bugs when stealing enemy champions.
Id be more fine with him if at least his base numbers were lower. instead he does the damage that most assasins can't do just with his lvl 6 powerspike, which already enables him to make kill chains if one squishy ends up exposed for even a short time. and then good luck catching him when he gets ahead with his two dashes stun and invis, most fed Viegos I've seen die to their own overagression, thinking their champ is even more op than he is.
I wish he was locked in stolen champions' bodies for a few seconds instead of just using their dashes/CC then pressing R because Viego himself is 100x better than any champ he steals. His autos do ridiculous amounts of damage, which is partially because of items too. As an alternative to that, I'd love for Riot to just cut all item damage in half. I swear, look at the death recaps after dying to someone with Bork and Kraken Slayer, it's literally: Items - 1531 Auto attacks - 746 Abilities - 352 Like what is that?! People are actually playing items now instead of their champions and it's really infuriating. I can't ban items. It's not just Viego either, he's just a prime example of this.
@@phoenixflamegames1 I really don’t believe Riot when they say that at all. You cannot convince me reworked Akali hasn’t brought in more money than any new champion since her rework. Same for Irelia, Kayle, Aatrox, etc.
@@Limrick1029 They actualy said reworks give more money, the problem with reworks is that they need to remake all skins AND remove a champion from the game(something "mains" hate), new champions are just easier to make and after some time people just forget about them.
Surprised that Akali and Katerina are not on this list, as those two can outright win a game on their own. They are true feast or fammine champs, if fed, game is pretty much over unless you can focus your hard CC on them.
My personal hate champ is Viktor. Even though his E is a "Skillshot" its almost undodgable poke with super high range and no interaction, other than being forced to backport after tanking too many of 'em.
yeah i play him a lot he feels like he has no counterplay. He has so little bad matchups and is so hard to punish for anything. Very obnoxious to play against.
If u didn’t know u should’ve played him before his rework. His E has burn damage that could one shot anyone it was disgusting but fun. It was during the time when one Cass Q or Nida spear can oneshot you
For me (in order) 10: Brand He just does way to much damage even as support, i don't think he is that strong as a champion but its personally irritating to get 100 to 0'd by a brand support with 1 item 9: Malzahar Literally the most interactive boring champ to play and to play against. Also can just makes the game unfun for 1 person with his R 8: Vayne Im a sion main, nothing much more needs to be said 7: Diana Very low skill assassination combo with huge dash while having a super ultimate and great scaling (plus has the luxury to build zhonyas bc ap) 6: Shaco You can never kill him while he just runs around places boxes and doing nothing helpful for his team while being nothing more then an annoyance to my team 5: Eveylnn Very poor design champ that does nothing for her first 6 levels then suddenly can win a game all by herself after a single double kill 4: Fiora PERCENT HEALTH TRUE DAMAGE HAHAHAHAHAHA 3: Yone This video already explains my dislike for yone 2: Gangplank He may have a really high skill celing but even an infant ape whos blind can Q spam in lane and just win the lane that way 1: Kayn I. Hate. Kayn.
Respectable list. I miss when Diana's Q didn't explode and her dash was her ult. She still did a lot of damage, but she actually had counterplay back then. Also Guinsoos should be removed to make Vayne, Kog'Maw and a few other champions balanced.
To be irredeemable the answers to the following questions must both be “no”: 1. Can their abilities be tweaked to fulfill their fantasy in a less toxic way? 2. Can their fantasy be changed to be less toxic? Here are some champions not already found in your video. Viego - Infinite abilities - normally after using all your abilities you are vulnerable until they come off CD - Viego just gets 3 free basics and a free R - R is unstoppable - possession grants extra healing AND untargetability for enough time to stall - effectively resets his abilities once, and then again when he returns to his base form (low CDs) Zilean - Chronoshift cuckold - Started when I saw Bjergsen pick him at Rift-Rivals or All-Stars - ruined the unga-bunga fights by reviving a teammate - turns slightly losing games into unwinnable games - R prevents pick-making for 6 seconds - E makes it impossible to run away from his team - needs reworking of both E and R to become less frustrating Pyke - Gold inflation - Quite common for Pyke to provide 3-6k gold to allies, not counting the gold he keeps for himself - doesn’t have to stay in-lane, can actually just move Bel’Veth - Infinite scaling for farming - in season 10 camps spawned every 2 minutes - Shyvana, Karthus, Master Yi could scale for existing - Riot explicitly stated it was a problem and increase spawn times to 2:15 - Bel’veth rewards the player for doing the same - also 30% + 2x lifesteal and 70% damage reduction on her E - Shieldbow + bork + BT + legend bloodline -> >100% lifesteal (: Tryndamere - Rarr - many of my friends have lost lane to a Tryndamere - because of his R he walks over them, stays ungankable, and kills our inhibitor at 16 minutes Katarina - full resets and partial ult reset - Tristana, Vex only reset their mobility, not their main damage abilities - Katarina expends her abilities on someone and then gets to do it again - see Viego for similar issues Yuumi - Untargetable - thought about a kit where Yuumi could apply buffs to a nearby ally - but she would have to stay close to them and use their body as a meat shield - maybe 10% less damage taken from targeted abilities while near ally
For yuumi, they could also make her mana costs way higher, but also make her passive have almost no cooldown late game, so she is forced to get out to get more mana, would also make her have more skill expression since you need to know what times are safe to get out so you dont get hit by cc.
I can respect losing to a gp, it takes a good amount of hours to get that skill Meanwhile senna has been an absolute monster since release but because her thematic sells so well they'll never truly balance her. She gets insane poke, can easily sustain in lane with grasp while scaling on health, and gets free crit/lifesteal. I'm a tank support main so that's probably where my resentment comes from
Tank support mains aren't real. Therefore you don't exist. This message was bought to you by kraken slayer and so many champs that have built in true dmg in their kits.
gp require no skill nowadays bruh, just like he said in the video; poke with q, put barrel on your feet to be safe, w if cc'ed and ult bot before they fight. and you dont need to be faker to pull of a barrel combo, you can almost master barrel combos after like 20 games of course stuff like one-part is harder im talking about just basic 2-3 barrel chain combo. GP was such a cool champ for me but now he is just cancer.
While I agree with like 80% of this list there are four champions that feel missed their spotlight in this video for similar reason listed here, those champion being sylas, katarina, and especially ekko and Diana. The four of these champion prove almost without a doubt that mage items are subpar at best and that it’s the kits that make the champ, Diana and katarina prove this really well with the new meta bruiser and tank build using divine sunderer and sunfire aegis and still nuking the whole team with a low cdr ult, then ekko does that same effect one shots a team just with ult but also heals all dmg just taken, but that’s not even his op part, his passive that does 1100 dmg on third hit plus the ability dmg, then sylas, a dash into a heal into a knock up into a high dmg q then autos that shred in a aoe, oh just to then steal any one’s ults, maybe even these op ults listed here but even better. So point being just imagined if they actually made good ap items and these champs got ahold of them, nerfed immediately
Shaco: hard to catch up due to true stealth Camille: easy access to true damage Yuumi: shift her pressure for free to ally Kayn: 2 empowered version of Kayn turns high risk high reward to low risk high reward Gangplank: physical damage control mage, an OP archetype Leblanc: juggernaut stands no chance against her Cassiopeia: very strong cc especially ground from miasma Akshan: abomination of overloaded kit with no personality Yone: he may not forgive Yasuo his kit forgives players for being bad Kennen: huge advantage for being energy base so he can spam skill as long as he has health
@@giovanniarana5619 Katerina got massively reworked on transfer because an item here is Broken and hitting her was easier to do; Irelia had to be reworked to *function* on a mobile platform and the AI for not manually using Q is worse than an Iron player and thats the only way to even remotely copy the pace of PC irelia. Camille lost her ability to make sheen items true damage on transfer. Other than that there is no contest to that list. Also you forgot Riven, a horsewoman of toplane, joined too and they preserved her down to a T in all but specific numbers.
@@crazyperson2733 No, she is FAR stronger pc. PC she can convert all of any sheen's damage into True damage with Q2, which is missing from WR. In WR they also nerfed the true damage early game. It deals 40% damage at ability lvl 1. Meaning it deals less damage than Q1 against all enemies you encounter, and the reason i bring this up is because im mentioning ways WR handled the super annoying and rage inducing parts of champ's kits, and they removed 2 of them for Camille. Sheens converting to true damage and excessive amounts of true damage at all points in the game; she literally cannot do the former and she only has decent or excessive true damage as early as the mid game, meaning she lost any meaningful amounts in lane and that was half the true damage related frustrations simply Removed. She is 100% very balanced in WR compared to PC Camille. As anti Tank is always Anti champ she is still frustrating to fight at all points as anyone (assuming a good Camille player) as thats the point of her design basically, but she is in a FAR healthier place than PC in WR.
Riven: Just bullshit stats. You can never really tell how much damage they're gonna do. One riven jumps on you and does a full combo and it does 100 damage, the other riven deletes you from full doing what looks like the same thing. Irelia: You can't just dash 10 times and heal to full mid fight. It feels so fking bullshit. Fiora: You can't just be an item down and win anyways because durability patch made you tankier while basically not affecting your damage at all. Also conceptually the champ makes no sense. You shouldn't have a "I win 1v1s" champ in the 1v1 lane. What if riot introduced a champ that can 1 shot any mage by right clicking them as soon as they have vision with global range? Would be bullshit right? And it wouldn't stop being bullshit when I say "Oh but it's the anti mage champ". In both cases you have similar counterplay. Heimerdinger: He will one shot you if you're melee and he can't do anything if you're ranged. Cringe. Ekko: Me see enemy. Me E Q auto. Combo no work. Me R back. Me see enemy. Me E Q auto. Combo Work. Profit. Katarina: I cannot compel my team to not int to her. No matter how behind she is she always comes back and wins. Viego: I shouldn't lose a fight after 3 enemies are down just because viego got a posses. Also he stacks conqueror in 1 and does Yi levels of damage with Kraken build. Bel'Veth: I know she's new, and I don't mind her most of the time, it's just that she has a fiora situation where she can beat any fighter a whole item down by pressing E. Yi's fine cuz at least he's killable, this shit ain't Yuumi: Duh Lulu: Remove her because of the playerbase that plays her. Hopefully hey quit. I also basically only play fighters, and I'm fine with hard counters like cassio and leblanc. Cuz even though I stand no chance to kill them it's pretty hard for them to run me down as well. But the above shit is not only unkillable for fighters, but also has no problem at all killing them or breaking their base.
The champions with the "pull you out of position" abilities - Blitzcrank and Pyke especially. At least with the diving abilities, the enemy doing so is putting themselves in bodily harm's way, including Lee Sin diving in to kick you away. Blitz and Pyke? Nah. You can be doing just fine positioned under your tower and/or with your team then get hit with ONE ability and suddenly you're in the middle of their team getting dogpiled while they remain grouped up and safe. Thresh's is almost ok because it doesn't pull you that far and he has to dive in to basically use the rest of his kit.
I just can't believe you left Akali out, i used to main it, but man. She's the flashiest and easiest assassin, simply ridiculous. It's the only champ in the game that can kill you through everything, if she wants to kill you, ain't no teammate gonna save you. I just think she would be my first go to, i love the lore and the character, but with that kit i ain't never touching her again
It's fine, Akali is balanced by being unable to _not_ recast her E, even if it'll kill her to do so. I don't know why they keep doing it, but if I'm a full health tank fed out of my mind and she's got a sliver of health left, she still _just can't resist_ going for that shuriken flip recast. Happens all the time lol
"Assassins are meant to be high risk high reward" The boat has long since sailed on that. Kha has him jump for a free escape and stealth, Talon jumps over any wall, Zed shadows away, Shaco has everything to escape forever, Kayne can cross a billion walls. Honestly at this point in the game it feels like assassins are the safest class to play, they've given them just a ton of escape tools to make sure that if they don't get that kill they don't need to be punished.
I mean...yes and no Kha'zix needs evolved wings AND a kill for jump reset. That's technically safe, but also very conditional Talon jumps over any wall...unless he jumps over it to gap-close or engage Zed same. You want your shadow for damage, not escape. His ult is much more of an escape tool than his W Shaco yes. he's very safe. Kayn, well, his E does have a long cooldown, but I kinda agree it's quite safe. It's nowhere near braindead, but it's very safe I'm surprised you didn't mention Evelynn though. Honestly.
yk that assasins are supposed to have mobility and outplay potential right and zed has one of the shorter dashes compared to most assasins most of what he has is reposition but its predictable
@@Jacob-zn6ov Yeah, Zed is definitely balanced and has a lot of counterplay. Kha'Zic and Shaco are very irritating and don't have so much. They really need to add a true-visio-granting support item to the game, even if the active only lasts a few seconds.
@@Jacob-zn6ov I mean that's my point, he said they were high risk high reward, but in lol having a load of mobility makes you low risk, and all assassins have loads of mobility so are low risk.
Camille easy fix : Transfer power from her Q to her R. Make her R deal burst physical damage based on AD & missing HP. Remove the unescapable web from her R. Maybe add a .5 s silence and slow to her R on impact.
My list: - Veigar: best cc skill ? easy infinite AP stacking ? Massive outplay potential with his ultimate ? count him in - Yuumi: hate playing with her, against her, as her - Master Yi: "just cc him lel". Hopefully he'll never get tenaci- nevermind - Zeri: even Riot doesn't know what to do with her since she gets buffed/nerfed every patch - Illaoi: "just dodge her e" - Yorick: "just dodge his e" but unironically - Yone: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - Ryze: just free the poor souls that still main this guy
I hate Illaoi so much, I’m a top lane Mundo main and whenever I have to pick before the enemy top laner I have a 90% chance to fight her and even if I perfectly poke her to near death and fight her at level 6 at full hp I still lose because of that stupid ult that one shots me and heals her
Veigar is so ridiculously outplayed that including him on the list just cause of his cage, his infinite AP scaling in a game that is evermore faster and ending before he can even get enough AP, and because of his ult that completely fits the character theme, is just bs. I'm main mage, and if one knows how to deal with him, then you're screwed. You have a terrible low range, you have no mobility, your cage is easily avoidable, and the ult you have to be really close to use it. It's only fair that he gets this "massive outplay potential" with his ult, he's slow as fuck and don't have mobility, what do you want?😂😂
the thing is as a shaco main I can speak on behalf of the community and agree with you because that's literally why we play him it's the fact that he's so annoying and hated that we love him, there is a certain type of pleasure we get when we one tap someone with an auto without them even seeing us before or after the kill or from running away trolling the enemy team with our clone or jacky box because we know on the other side of the screen they're crying and screaming and from now on going forward we'll live in their heads rent free as they keep perma banning our champ and explaining why they hate us so much and wish nothing but pain and misery for us ik we sound pretty sadistic but that's because we are even if we aren't toxic or annoying we embody that persona when we play him because we are one with him when play him and that's how you become a great shaco play, by being shaco himself in a way also great vid love it :D
Yone (obviously), Yasuo, Riven, Fiora, Irelia, Yuumi, Master Yeet, Fish, Vayne, and Katarina. They're all so annoying with their insane mobility, OPness, and toxic playerbase.
I can't help but agree with a lot of your list, even for characters I personally love. I've often thought about outright changes to shaco and yuumi specifically to make them less frustrating to play against. Less CC, more interaction mechanics, something I'd raise my own delete from the game champ, pyke. He's a more consistent blitz crank, who's whole balance factor was he had to land his Q to be any good. For pyke, he is just stacked with privilege. His Q doesn't pull as far, so it has a brutal slow built in and can be quick cast at melee range because the safety champ can't be allowed to struggle ever. He can't build tanky like bitz, so he gets over the top good regeneration in lane tied to camo and a massive speed buff that doesn't even slow you afterwards. Those are just the parts that match blitz, he's got a whole kit that invalidates blitz and a lot of counter play too. Quick dash for extreme safety on top of what hes got, and it's a stun so you can't even match him with other hyper mobile champs, An AOE stun even. it's so easy to land off of it's dash and his crazy movement W. And my god the privilege on that execute. Double gold on landing one of the easiest aoe spell in the game with safety boxes in an X shape on what is already an easy to land circle cast? Try that but it refreshes on that privilege execute kill. It invalidates any last stand mechanics like olaf or the rune "last stand". On a squishy no mobility adc this would be a strong ult, but on the safest champ in the game, even over yuumi who is untouchable for 99% of an encounter, this is just a game buster of a no fun champ to see in game. I know he falls under the feast or famin flag, but i think he has that yone quality where his feast is unplayable against and his famine isn't quite famine enough. At worst he has a safer yone ult with less damage. Sometimes I wonder if both akshan and pyke would be better if they swaped their execute and revive mechanic
I think ez has the most unrealiable DPS out of any adc out there, his entire kit is skillshots and for autos to be even remotely useful you also need to hit your abilities continuously
There's only one champ I want to remove and it's Bel'veth. Otherwise I have no problem with most champs. Only champs I have problem with are new ones/stat checkers, but rather than removing them I would rework/rebalance them.
That's fair. I hate Bel and stat sticks too. I love the concept of outplay so seeing the enemy delete me by clicking on me once with a targetted ability or auto attack and makes me so depressed. Many tanks too, since they have so much CC, damage and HP/resistances. Very uninteractive.
Since I'm a support main, I've LOVED the small taste of 200 years that Senna has provided, so much so to the point where she became my main. In League, most overloaded champions are annoying skirmishers that exist in the top lane. Personally, I hate going against them, but I also hate playing them too due to personal tastes, so I cannot really take advantage of their existence. However, Senna has permanently scaling AD and AUTO-ATTACK RANGE, AoE damage, lots of healing, camoflauge for the team, and a global ult that both does sniping damage and can single-handedly protect an entire team. She also has a Jhin-style passive that makes kiting on her much easier compared to high attack speed marksmen. They took a marksman, which is a class I enjoy but cannot play well, but put it into a support WITH OVERLOADED MECHANICS. She also has a crit build, a lethality build that makes her vision control uncontested with Umbral Glaive, and even a tank build. Her only downside is her CC being somewhat lacking, but her root can still hit an entire team, and its range is still insane. I'm glad that she was the first POC woman in the game, tied into the lore well, and combined my two favorite playstyles while adding a bunch of unnecessarily strong stuff on top. Even then, she's not that bad to begin with compared to a lot of the more recent champions.
dude same man i love playing her too. i cannot play marksman because i get tunnel vision so senna was perfect to climb for me . but she was nerfed to the ground last patch in wildlife .
Honestly I'd remove/rework every champ since Viego. Not even being dramatic, each of them has been a balance disaster. The only one that feels like their in a healthy place now is Vex. But Veigo, Gwen, Zeri, Bel Veth Ahkshan all have the most baffling design to me. Especially Gwen, so little actual gameplay in that kit.
@@walkelftexasranger It is not a revive, it is death prevention. If they WOULD die they have a short chance to get a takedown and if they do their life is set at 25% always and only get it once per cast. I have yet to see it as that much of a problem and most people forget about her cause overall she is pretty weak and a niche pick of a support.
@@walkelftexasranger I think they should make it so you have to activate it at least a second before the champion dies in order for the "revive" to work, plus it should have more indication. It's so poorly designed how a champion can literally die the second it activates and immediately be granted another life. Zilean is irritating, but at least you can see his ult on his target and wait it out if needed. Counterplay.
For my list of ten hated champions : Yone (no dash on R if it doesn't hit any champion, no movespeed with the e, the knock-up range of third q is reduced) Akali (shift the majority of the damage on q and passive instead of having it all on the dashes) Bel'Veth (make it that her q really limits the directions towards which she can dash instead of still allowing her to dash three times towards the same direction, four if she hits her w, do not let her dash through thick walls, maybe remove the lifesteal from e) Seraphine (make her only buyable with rp, so that people remember why she was added to the game) Diana (either reduce her natural tankyness with giving more damage but no shield or reduce the dash distance) Akshan (remove the stealth and the revive) Kayn (give him a bigger cooldown on his e) Pyke (make the ult no longer a direct execute, but an ability that deals damage with missing health, move the stun out from the dash, change the invisbility to a skillshot that, when hitting, turns Pyke invisible or something like that, why not putting the stun that got removed from the dash there too, I don't really know about the shared gold, since the ult would be weaker it may not need to be removed) Yuumi (make her way weaker when out of a body) Gwen (I have no idea what to do but her immunity is not legal) Morgana (make it so the black shield can block only one cc per ennemy champion at each cast (so still five total)) There is also viego and qyana I dislike but don't really know how to modify, sylas' healing is a pain to deal with too, I personally don't like kassadin either but there's nothing fundamentally wrong with him I think
There are some good agreeable points though I would like to make some adjustments/additions that fit my biased view of the game: 1. Zilean: Nobody likes to play him, nobody likes to play against him. One of the most unpopular champions that even riot themselves has admitted is very overpowered and the only reason he's not nerfed into the ground is because of his low pickrate. There's just nothing to do against this guy, a 0/5 and a 5/0 Zilean are pretty much the same E R spam bots. 2. Fiora instead of Camille: A Camille will beat you in lane if she's better than you, a fiora will beat you if she's good at all. Basically you don't really have a say in the fiora matchup, you can just pray that this guy can't land the chinese fiora 0.1sec ult combo or lose. Also she's way harder to shut down late game than a Camille, her reposte is probably one of the best trading tools in the game even without timing it well to counter a cc ability it slows your attack speed so much that most auto attackers wouldn't notice a difference between the heavy slow and insane attack speed slow or not being able to move at all 3. Bel'veth should be changed or just removed: I dread having this champion on my team and I dread having her on the enemy team. If she's on my team I know I'll pretty much get no jungle assistance and if she's on the enemy team she feels like a hyper mobile melee kayle with resets and true damage that I cannot zone off xp for her terrible early game. 4. Even though I play him a lot Ornn isn't the healthiest champion at the moment. He just provides too much for his team. Good damage? Check. Amazing cc? Check? Insanely tanky? Check. Not to mention that past level 13 he just gives thousands of gold worth of stats to his team for free. It's also insane how differing in gold value all his Ornnaments are. I will straight up just tell my team tp build Frostfire, Rocketbelt, Eclipse, Kraken or Moonstone because if we have those 5 items I might aswell just randomly generated 5-7k gold for our team out of thin air, also he himself gets INSANE amounts of tank stats for upgrading items. I don't think Ornn should be outright removed hes really fun and has a place in the game but damn he kinda feels dirty to play at the moment 5. Vayne: Even fucking fiora has to get into harms way to do her bullshit % health true damage not to mention that she still has to hit a specific side of her oponent which is really hard to do in teamfights while avoiding cc and damage all from melee range. Vayne just kinda has to sit back and auto attack, why the fuck does she have an invisibility on a 1.5 sec cooldown when she ults again? I don't know lol, don't think riot does eather but whatever. And I'm serious saying that I really wouldn't be making a problem out of Vayne if she was forced into building pure damage like all other adcs, but no that would be too fair to make her a squishy champion that dies easily in fights haha! Why not allow her to build 4 tank items while still shredding everything she touches with a Shieldbow and Rageblade. Slap an enchantnter on her ass and you have a 3K hp 200 armor 150 mr creature that goes invisible 20 times per fight, gets constant shields heals and buffs, has a point and click disengage and kills any tank in the game within 12 autos. Even her "low range" problem is mitigated by the LT rework.
Should do a video on "The problem with High-Skill Champions" or something like that. This is because I've noticed a lot of the community's most hated champions are mechanically demanding. All the Four Horsewomen of Top Lane, Gangplank, Leblanc, Qiyana, Akali, Zed, Katarina, stuff like Zeri, Samira and Pyke down in botlane, and probably some more I can't think of right now. Now that I look at the list, you could probably do to add that assassins especially suffer from this problem. I have my own reasons for why I think these parallels exist, but I think it would be really cool to hear your take.
its a simple answer most of these champs are suppose to be high skilled but they really arent and their kits are too forgiving for the skill level that should be required to play them. pyke for example is an assassin support that is suppose to ks. you would think to counter his damage they would make him really squishy and once he is caught he is dead but no, he gets a speed boost that allows him replenish missing health and go invisible. so he can basically get out of any bad situation easily, and almost everyone of the champs you mentioned have similar abilities.
Simply the skill they need to be used well needs some reward. And that reward is performing better than their "noskill" counterparts. While on paper it sounds ok in practice it feels like one person is playing a soloplayer game. Instead of the game being a tactical and strategy based battle there is one person having all the tools and you just have to wait for them to screw up. By giving one player agency it takes away ot from the other. That is basically why they had to make THE hugh skill ceiling champion, Azir, basically unplayable.
Kind of funny how everyone thought that Aphelios would be the most cancerous to go up against just cause of the overloaded kit. Now thinking about it, playing him is fun and i maybe know only like ten people who dislike playing against him. I'd rather face aphelios all day than have one game against a sweaty bald akali main dude..
@@zer0sevenine153 Aphelios is how to do a difficult champ right imo. Most of the skill in playing him lies in game knowledge, and that's a lot harder to master than mechanics. Same with stuff like TF.
My list will be 10.vladimir buying life steal is one thing, having it in your kit is another 9.singed he just doesn't have a play style for league 8.kayn to many times i almost one shoted him just for him to press r and win 7.yone as vars said privilege 6.gank plank w is too annoying (maybe cuz i started as mord main and my hatr for him just sticked) 5.pyke r reset more gold for kill should i say more 4.yummi 3.illaoi e and you won the trade the enemy didn't even strated 2.akshan fucking revive 1.vayn %max health true damage 0.ryze if you can't fix my main just delete him and end my suffering riot
@@Lowaver Out of her entire kit, it's kind of sad to say the two dash ability is the most fair one, considering how many jokes were made about every champ having thousands of dashes... cause giving jax E, diana R, AoE autoattacks and a free shared spirit visage + xp boost to an adc is completely fair lmao.
I used to hate Yone too but then Riot blessed me with Vex and now the enemy team locking in Yone and attempting to try-hard anime main character me and dash directly into my turret out of desperation is the funniest 45 minutes of my day and one the few joys this game even brings me anymore
@@yasarmmmdzad5026 how is vex op bs? the only actually strong part of her kit is her R and it's not even that strong when she's not 11/0 because of her cooldowns
@@yasarmmmdzad5026 vex is not OP. I give rito a lot of crap for their game balance (or lack thereof) but I have to admit that vex is actually one of the more balanced champs in the game. She is only a menace when fed, but you could say the same thing about all champs
Pyke is the champion that I'd want removed. Even a bad Pyke can still perform and absolutely skew the gold generated in a game to absurd levels. He's the epitome of a champion that is unfun to play against. He deals huge damage with good CC, is tanky as hell since he can camouflage himself and heal at the same time which also just lets him re-engage. But obviously his main power budget is placed into his ult, a true damage, true execute, and as if that wasn't enough - he actively grants gold out the ass and will forever have a general low power level because of that alone. I just hate that even a bad Pyke can technically hand out a total of 4500 gold across all team members if everyone gets an assist on every teamfight that Pyke executes in. Like, you are already winning the fight, why does every single teammate also get a total of 900 gold perr kill on top of that? It's dumb and it easily snowballs a losing team, or just hard snowballs an already winning team. The fact that his resets also last for approximately two lifetimes is also absurd to me.
Akali should also be just thrown out of the game completely. A champion having a thousand dashes and an invisibility should not deal that amount of damage. I didn't even mention how far those dashes can go, Akali just bursts someone down in the blink of an eye while being nigh uncatchable. If an Akali with enough items decide to kill you, there's little to nothing you and your team can do Zoe, Lillia, Gwen, Bel'Veth, Zeri, and Nilah are also abominations in the rift
3:28 "Fiora is much easier to kite" She gains 20-50% move speed when she hits a vital, and she can press r to also gain this move speed for 8 seconds. Her q is a dash on a 6 second cd at rank 5 that goes down to 3 if she hits a target WITHOUT any ability haste, imagine with ability haste. If you think this is much easier to kite, idk what game we're playing here.
@Nathan Waterser Her hookshot can be cancelled with cc if timed correctly, fiora can parry any attempt to cc her during her q dash lol, and will instead stun you the target
@@Autoswitched camille's q also Grant's her ludicrous amount of movespeed, and with trinity it's like double your movespeed. They can both easily stick to you once already in range but camille can do so from much farther away, hookshot has like triple fiora Q range
@@xdrago1051 She has to hit you with the q at melee range to get the move speed for 1 second. Fiora can just press her r button or hit a vital in the general area. Once again, hookshot can be cancelled and has a 12 second downtime at max rank. Fiora q has a 2 second downtime if she hits a champ/minion with a few items. You can cc camile whilst she's mid air, and simply escape. Fiora you cannot do this as ccing her risks you eating a parry into stun thus making her impossible to kite.
@@Autoswitched fioras parry stun is a rarity, I rarely get hit by it and rarely hit it on others unless telegraphed. Not to mention not every champ has cc. You're acting like her parry is a 100% stun when in reality 99% of the time you just predict their cc and pray they try it Camilles q cd is so low you can always keep the movespeed up, Camille can use e twice in all in's usually, alongside R, and her 80% slow off w. Camille also has more effective engage to actually stick to her target. While I believe camilles harder to escape, they're both hard and camille has more effective range. So camille wins when it comes to engaged and overall stickiness.
I think Camille would be fine if Precision Protocol's second cast just had the damage nerfed like you said or, rather than making the bonus damage true damage instead of all of it, the 2nd cast instead has a large amount of armor penetration (40-60%?) so that damage reduction still works against it and she can't shred tanks quite as fast.
9:36 okay, but she's a mage specifically made for the midlane and specifically made to stop all the assasins mobility. I mean it would be better if she didnt benefit as much from the tank items, but if you take out the grounded effect you take out her viability in the midlane, which she is made for
oh I wonder how my list will be since I'm an aram only player as the first 4-8 of my list are primarily aram only anti fun design Kai'sa: W centric builds that do 30% of your hp as a squishy with only 1 minion wave to heal from for your whole team and no backing. Ashe: imperial mandate, manamune and axiom arc puts her w on a 3 second cooldown, with it being the size of the lane giving her team bonus damage whilst slowing you. Along with the fact you can't flank her and she will always have ult for anyone who rushes her due to her w giving her easy assists. AP shaco: he literally just afk with boxes being the champion, but when he's the enemies your team forget he exist and will walk into every box and make every clone blow up on you. Also because it's aram you're stuck having to go through his boxes because there is only 1 lane maokai: half the game is played around 2 bushes and there is a bush right next to your tower if you're pushed in so 30% hp per SAPLING kayle: whilst games are shorter within the last 40 of my aram games only 5 have ended b4 level 18, so ye ending quickly in aram to stop kayle is rare, so it's either body the enemy team or you're at a 80% chance of losing. it's annoying to fight the clock more than the enemy team. Kat: Divine sundere, death dance, titanic is still the kat build in aram and it's just stupid Yuumi: designated healers are just annoying in general and i think yuumi is just the prime example, 2 healer comps are just kinda an auto loss with how weak anti-heal is. Soraka: same reasons as yuumi really she's just the second worst, plus she gets warmogs so she's actually hard to kill. LB: i just really hate fighting her: she's hyper mobile so bruisers can't get her, she's high burst so damage dps get 1 shot with her not putting herself in real danger, and her passive makes bursting her practically impossible because she goes invisible long enough for her to get over the shock of being jumped. Lulu: i don't like polymorph. honourable mentions: cass: same as video, yone: same as video, quinn: e q sucks for melee champs, nidalee: aram spear spam, Zoe: Zoe, and finally aphelios: i still don't quite understand what he does because adc is the least appeal champ type to me, he's either just eating dirt in the background or is a god and i never know why.
shaco's deceive was designed when pink wards revealed all stealth units. it was a form of counterplay in early league. when they removed that they gave him his largest buff in all of his history
The literally only one champ I don't agree with is Gankplank. He requires his player to have at least chimp-sized brain to play, while Yuumi or Yone can literally push random buttons and do okay.
1. Senna: too much damage and cc 2. Vayne: true damage on a machine gun adc 3. Fizz: E 4. Vladimir: Untargetable, one shots you late game, infinite sustain 5. Yuumi: just an item 6. Shaco: Q, W and ult 7. Akali: dashes everywhere and becomes invisible 8. Akshan: cringe revive 9. Master Yi: True damage on a machine gun that you can’t kite 10. Ashe: no one likes to play against a cringe ass ashe support with mandate
I feel like my list would basically end up being every champion that's been made going back to, but not including, Ornn with the exception of Neeko. All of them (besides Rell but that's a different problem) just feel overloaded because Riot feels the need to make new champions ever more ridiculous so people spend money to buy them on release and all their skins and it just feels so dumb. Sylas, Viego, Pyke, Senna and Yuumi especially. It's not like older champions aren't frustrating either. Shaco, Akali, Vayne and Kennen, amongst others, are also annoying as balls but I also don't feel like their champions are full to the brim with some kind of power/feature creep as the recent champs do and I wish Riot would u-turn on this philosophy change.
New champion q be like Slows Speeds up Dmg buff Dmg nerf Deal true dmg Negate true dmg Dash away Hook If it hits reduces cd to 0 on r Sucks you off Pays your bills Does your taxes Revive team Kill your team. P.S: i may have exaggerated a bit.
For context, I was a midlane main who basically one-tricked Ahri between seasons 5-10 and mostly played burst or control mages. The worst of the bunch for me was honestly Lux, Yasuo, and Katarina. Fighting those matchups was genuinely unfun because of how little Ahri could do back then compared to them. Higher base damage, more mobility, and effectively a 'nono' zone I couldn't enter otherwise I'd be murdered.
I am still a ahri main. Wait till someone picks irelia or yone into you. Pre lvl 2 u can get some free auto attacks of but after that u really cant do shit. Yone reaches 6? Gg u cant even cancel his damn ult with ur E. Irelia clears entire wave and heals back to full hp so u cant roam or ur tower is gone. Get to close to minions and irelia straight up dashes in you and ur dead.
I agree with almost the entire least. Let me explain. -Camille Being able to do a 1000 true damage with a regular ability is stupid. No interactive gameplay. Having an ult that allows you to 1v1 duel an opponent is fine. However, not being able to Qss it is stupid. You are able to Qss Mordekaiser ult but not camille? -Shaco Having two get out of jail cards with his Ult and Q is stupid. Cannot punish. Ult having AOE 3 second fear is stupid Having an ability that does AOE fear is stupid. This champion is stupid. -Yuumi Stupid....... -Kayn An ult that allows you to deal damage while the opponent can't. Very interactive. An E ability that allows you to heal on entry and gaining extra movement speed in blue form and being able to pass through terrain that other champions can't. -Gangplank Has a free QSS in the kit. Why? An ult that provides pressure everywhere on the map even though he is not in the fight. Barrels that can zone unless you're playing ranged. Even ranged is hard. -Leblanc I agree with some of what Vars said, HOWEVER, Leblanc can't really function if she is behind. She relies on kills soooooooooooooooo. She is annoying tho. -Cassiopeia Has an ability that denies movement. WOW so cool! Ult is just annoying. -Akshan WHY IS HE ALLOWED TO BRING PEOPLE BACK FROM THE DEAD! Passive syngergies very well with PTA and Kraken which makes it very hard to trade with. However, I will say that the passive is fine. There are ways to work around it. -Yone Having practically a BOTRK passive on his E is kinda meh. Has huge comeback potential when most champions don't. Being able to 1v9 after a kill is not fun. Hard to punish even when behind -Kennen Has 6000 stuns and is ranged... Do I have to say more?
Tbh i would just eliminate Vayne, in the toplane she can basically dominate early game with her poke and at the same time being a good scaling hypercarry that whipes your team as long as the game progresses..
Akshan's downside to attacking twice is that his attack speed ratio is 0.4 as opposed to the usual 0.6. He would be fine if the second shot's damage reduction also affected on-hits since at that point his damage output would be no different from a regular champ's. Still his revive is game breaking in the sense that it turns the game on it's head and throws out all the normal rules. Kill 3 people but you die? that wasn't a good trade because now Akshan revived them and your team has to fight 4v5 while missing the person that could 3v1. But also: how the fuck are vayne and fiora not there? I do not care how weak they are, %max health true damage should never exist. ESPECIALLY not to the ridiculous degree that those two have, and then they get some of the craziest abilities for their class on top of that with CC block and full immunity that stuns, and the strongest peel I can think of on an ADC, and both of them have low cooldown dashes as if they weren't given enough tools to fuck you over. If you're playing a tank, you're not playing today
I actually ban yone in every game since his release. (there was a period when I banned Seraphine, but came back to yone) It's nice to hear that others are yone haters too. Other champions that I would delete: Sylas, Akshan, Pyke, and Seraphine.
Honestly' My list of Removable's would be: Teemo, Bard, Yummi, Camile, Shaco, Master Yi, Dr.Mundo(the rework), Graves, Gankplank, Talon "Sion" Teemo- Early free poke with poison and quickly win games on shroom. Just Toxic (sidenote- ff before 15) Shaco- He's a clown, literally the most toxic champ one can ever face. Even the players embodies him, smh. Bard- Leaves ADC after 5mins, Like how is this champ consider a support when leaves losing all other lanes, let alone his own lane. Seriously, I deeply hate a Bard than a Shaco. Camile- Imagine giving divers free options to corner pressure top with no consequences, worst 2 kills and can now 1 v 3 the enemy in 7mins. Let's ff already. Lane bullies Queen Dr. Mundo- Just alittle more cancer to deal with than Morde, Why did riot choose to give his basic ability's a chunk ton of dmg on lvl 1. Just nerf him already. Graves- Possibly every jungler's worst match-up, 2 words: "Smoke-screen". It's the same reason why players hate Akali, just stop giving certain champs easy outs. Talon- Kinda similar to Graves, easy outs. What's worst however, When talon wall jumps, it gets free reset as many times as possible. Meaning, a 0 cooldown ability with prehaps no mana cost. U can't make this shit up. Master Yi- Same with Camile, can 1 v 3 the enemy team under 10mins after the first 2 kills. Debatable if this champ is worst than Camile or not. Yuumi- Everyone reading this, We all know. Let's just grab popcorn and bench-watch some shows on Netflix or something. The Easiest champ Riot has made with no new future nerfs. Originally, I thought Gangplank as toxic/ bannable champ bc the crazy amoutnt of control he holds at all time, but no, they're is one champ that does this list justice on how stupidly ridiculous it does it's role in the whole entirely of League of Legends. Instead of Gangplank, meet Sion- Int all game and still hold more pressure & impact on the game than most champs of the whole league rooster. Win by losing, just wow. Not to far off with you're list, Vars. Kinda the same issues each of the picks hzve that Riot may have intentional made & ignored.
Honestly, no one. the busted 1v9 champs may ruin the game at some times, but equally, being in a good position, and being able to yell HAHAHAH I KILLED HIM AGAIN, to one of those, is an amazing feeling and makes league what it is today am i saying these champs should be in the game? no, probably should be balanced. But it is what it is and makes the game so much more dynamic (even if in a bad way, lol)
For me it's Master Yi. I feel like this champ does require no skill at all to run down your enemies. One argument a lot of ppl use is "just cc him and he is useless". Well find that coordination in low elo.
11:25 i love his argument, "yone is not strong because he has counters" even then the ones he mentioned that counter him are like only 4% of leagues 150+ cast edit: i also love how he won 4600 of all 5000 match played with yone and still argues he's not broken
Champs I hate in no particular order: Tryndamere - Too easy to get out of bad situations / decisions. Press E every 3 seconds to disengage or engage at will. Lillia - Too hard to catch when she makes a bad decision Talon - Press E to traverse the whole fucking map and engage / disengage with minimal risk. I play a lot of divers so I have to be smart about when and how I engage. Champs that can just always get out of a bad situation piss me off royally.
Since i otp singed this is my list. 1.Camille - stated in video 2. Darius - just an actual stupid champ especially if they go flash ghost, can pull you from under tower, him building tanky and still being mobile, that dumbass bleed. 3. Shen - dude can literally build one item and be tanky as fuck to to mention his q w and passive being a little bit stupud at times.( rather a nerf but definitely had games where i wanted him deleted) 4. Tryndamere - i really dont feel like i need to explain. 5. Gp - his crit build is actually dumb like, laning against him is literally getting q'd the whole time, if you try to proxy he can clear wave with 1-2 barrels. 6. Yorick - kinda like gp laning is just getting Qd and taking too much dmg from his ghouls, plus he clears waves fast af when u try to proxy. 7. Karma - her ms, root and slow are so fucking rediculous not to mention on top of her healing and shielding, so hard to close on her or her team. 8. Mundo - quite literally just counters singed plus has a free get out of jail free card with his passive. 9. And 10. - idk atleast for rn probably a support or mid laner that has too much shit in their kit or main build that is just toxic gameplay.
My toughts on the list, agree to disagree 1. Shaco - Disagree, Shaco is a elo terrorrist in low elo but can easily fall behind and be useless for example, you can just go and clear his boxes before the camps spawns which will effect his clear significantly. I agree he can be annoying, but he is not unhealthy for the game with his playstyle it's very aggresive and can be extremly unfun sometimes to play against but so is it with very many champions who has aggresive playstyles like a katarina or a kindred. 2. Camille - Disagree, You can't remove Camille if Fiora is still in the game with her current design, if camille dives in Camille can't get out Fiora can on the other hand. They have about the same playstyle but fiora is just worse from everyone you can't just kite a Fiora or a Camille, but you can get away from Camille which significantly easier than getting away from a Fiora. They both have the same main weakness which is waveclear but Fioras kit compensates more for her weakness while camilles kit doesn't really compensate for her weakness. And also PERCENT HEALTH TRUE DMG!!!!!!!! 3. Yummi - i pretty much agree 4. Kayn - I agree 5. Gangplank - HOLY SHIT THIS CHAMP IS ON CRACK. But on a real note i think his kit is really interesting but how he needs a big rework for his dmg and how he builds, a bruiser shouldn't be able to build bruiser, crit and lethality 6. Leblanc - I see you just met a smurf leblanc otp last game (disagree) 7. Cassopeia - Disagree, Extremly annyoing if you get counterpicked but such a dog champion in general. Her range is too small to be usefull as a control mage and most champions in the meta right now can just kite her for example zeri and most adcs atm. And her whole kit is based around her hitting a target with q which most champions shouldn't have a problem with 8. Askhan - I agree 9. Yone - "Tell me you're bronze without telling me you're bronze" (obv disagree) Your argument for yone being a slayer x factor as you put it can't really work By your own standards. Diana would be considerd a x factor slayer champion and also a ap champion which is more usefull and she has more with more synergy with ohter champions. Yone in general has no x factor really his ult does no real dmg and hardly hits 5 people, If it hits 5 then its the enemy team being mispositioned, all of the adcs has a way of dodging his ult, most can by gale force. If you go yone top as im assuming you're talking about you ussually offer a tank /brusier by going yone top but even if he is mid your team gets very limited mostly because you're most of the time going to end up with full ad (if you go yone mid) or no tank/brusier (if you go yone top which is in it self a high risk mid reward as you say yone doesn't have. 10 Kennen - Mad :tf: In genral this list is more appealing to the lower elo audience with champions like Shaco, Leblanc, Camille and Yone. But if you in higher elo this list dosen't make sense.
4:35 nonononono. Yuumi decreases pressure for the crucial first 15 minutes of the game. Also Yone would actually be a feast or famine champ if they removed the crit from his passive.
The passive is the reason he is feast or famine, it locks your build to crit so if you lose early, you can't build defense without being useless, and if you win early, you get a big powerspike with 100 crit.
Big agree on all of the list WITH THE EXCEPTION of Gangplank. I like playing both as him and against him, he's very fair and open about what he does and ends up being a pure skillcheck - either you outtime him with the barrel hit and he has no combo for the next 30 seconds, or you get outtimed and lose half your health as punishment. Harsh, but avoidable. He doesn't really have bullshit gotchas, he's like Azir, just very honest but skilled gameplay. Each time I lose against Gangplank, I can tell exactly what I did wrong to deserve that.
As an adc main, my personal must ban nowadays is Miss Fortune. Until her E gets changed to not be a free no participation poke that cannot be avoided or dealt with whatsoever, she is absolutely awful, the only counterplay is to have a dash to get in on her and kill her but earlygame good fucking luck with STRUT MOVESPEED also, it's a bot laner, they have a support there. MF can just take arcane comet and spam her E with no consequence slowing you for a massive ammount and possibly build AP so you get hit by a lane covering aoe slow that deals magic damage and slowly KILLS you. Absolutely stupid, this would get irritating in ANY lane, see the problem is that it's so big AND has good range to it so it's a very easy poke to center on your target so they take most if not ALL the damage, and it;s a good way to allow allies to come in and capitalize on it, it's good for kite and chase and just shuts down anyone who isn't a dashing assassin about to gut her in two abilities. And even then if she's ahead, she can build Lethality and BECOME the assassin by hitting Q and autoing a few times with strut attack speed bonus to kill the assassin instead! Miss Fortune is by far one of the most unfun bot laners that you legit need to team up against just to have a good lane phase.
I think kayn would be fine if it wasnt for blue form. Red form was also kind of toxic last season, but that was due to the eclipse into lethality itemization that made him a oneshot assasin. Bruiser red kayn on paper is totally fine and just another flavor of statcheck skirmisher imo.
1-2) The 0/10 powerspike brothers: It's pretty dumb to try to explain it, everybody knows why are they hated. 3) Fiora: I hate bruisers in general, but the fact that you can't lane aginst her bc she deals dmg based on max hp it's so fun. Even if you are lucky, and the Fiora player is dumb enough to lose lane against you, DOESN'T MATTER, she scales so hard and her powerspike comes after 2-3 items. You blink and she heals 2K hp in 3 aa to different marks and oneshot any champ, adc, tank, mage, doesn't matter, bc the only way to "dodge" her aa on her passive is hugging a wall crippling yourself and being forced to 1v1 her. 4-5) Lb and Qiyana: Assassins with too much capability to fool around with ppl. Honestly, you cant play against Qiyana in the jg, she spams her brush Q and throw all her cds at you, if you manage to survive, she repeats the process and you're f*cked, bc you can't escape from a champ that has 2 dashes (3 with prowlers claw, aka: Qiyana's core item and powerspike). 6) Aphelios: Simple, he gets 2 items, gets infernum + chakram and you have to fear his R like a Corki's package, but this one oneshots everyone. But that's in the case the Aphelios player has braincells, he doesn't need them anyway, just smash the keyboard as hard as possible and you take 2 ppl with you at least. 7) Kayn: XD 8) Sion: This is actually one of the champs I main, and got me out of bronze when I started playing 4-5 years ago. I still like him but in his current state it's kinda dumb. You can do 1 of 2 things in games: A) Int and splitpush, as long as you get waves and farm you get extra max hp and become a pain in the butt to the enemy team. B) Build full tank and ult in the middle of the Tf, if you hit the adc/control mage/any champ that's a little squishy, and you oneshot him; Full cc chain with a butt-ton of base dmg on the (R-W during charge-R detonation before it hits-E-Q-W detonation during q charge-Q detonation) combo. It's pretty "weak" in the season 12 meta (so far), but his kit and playstyle is kinda... wierd? I mean, Karthus also revives for a certain amount of time, but he can't move. Sion is better dead than alive sometimes. 9) Riven: Idk her weakness and neither her onetricks (they'll probably say the easy stuff like Garen, Malph and Renek, bc they hate playing pasive), nobody. A lane bully with 4 dashes (3 in a basic abillity and the 4th has a shield), knock up, aoe dmg, cc and execution (dmg based on missing hp R2), empowered aa each time she use and ability and activating her R1 give her extra ad (bc why not), one of the first champs with an overloaded kit ever. But wait, there's more, she shines in mid game and has a wonderful late, the more cdr + ad the better she gets. Did I mention she can ALSO jump over walls on top of all her kit? 10) Bel'veth: Yi and Irellia had a daughter and she's from the void. She has the whole pack: Infinite scaling true dmg, stacking attack speed, dmg reduction, a Rhaast W but bigger and faster, 4 dashes that can be reset, capability to stack more attack speed than any adc by like 2x-3x, her ult gives her more max hp, more dmg, and for some reason she can also spawn voidlings like Malzahar (why not?). Her E not only gives her dmg reduction, but she also get on hit effects on every aa she hits. It's a joke of a champ.
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Apparently a lot of league players have never known someone named Jin and genuinely think my name is spelled Jhin LMAO
Your name is Jhin don't try to deny it 😂
As a Blazblue fan I don't have such weaknesses
Stop hiding, we know that 10 is binary code for 4 !
We finally unmasked you, you criminal bastard !!
His name is Jin. Now he needs to OTP Jhin Top to High Elo Challanger.
Wait so your fav number is 3 ?
1
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THREE !!!
Assasins: Kills one target quickly and tries to escape.
Qiyana: Dashes in, stuns and oneshots 3 enemies with aoe, sits invis for 5 consecutive seconds, oneshots another person and then escapes.
But then again you miss an element and you die, sorta why she is very rarely picked in high elo
Durability Patch: Let me introduce you myself.
U lie poorly
@@adampiaseczny5090 no? Lol
@@mrskull6216 Does the durability patch out yet ? Because yesterday my friend got one shot by Qiyana in 0.5s, so I just feel the patch isn't released yet XD
0:59 gotta love how the second most hated champion for Aurelion mains is Aurelion himself 💀
Its a sad life bro
Same for Elise
I cri ;-;
Yeah.. would you love a champ who's nerfed to oblivion?
Well, me.. Lmao 🤣
But i still hate him.. but i still love him.. :/
As somebody who regularly duos with an asol one trick it's because they have gotten so comfortable that their champion has a near 0% pick or ban rate that they can play him every game, so when he is picked by the enemy team it's a sad time
I'm so glad you actually mentioned Kennen. People legit forget that he exists then he performs well in Worlds and everyone starts spamming the fuck outta him. I'm so glad he's not played much otherwise he would be my permaban. Honorable mention to Jayce, extreme lane bully that deals loads and loads of damage. If you dare touching a minion you basically explode while facing him.
I completely forgot how much I hate Kennen lol. He's so fucking annoying and worst of all is that he's pretty trashy, so not only does he make laning miserable, he gives you wins with a bad taste on your mouth.
I personally dislike gangplank more than Jayce
Jayce doesn't even do that much damage in the laning phase tbh
@@alejandrogomezfernandez7350 ya, y ademas se gasta mitad de la barra de mana para llegar a hacer 300 de daño
Thing about GP is he’s balanced by his mana problem and breaking barrels comes down to who has better timing (GP has an advantage of course but you still got a shot). Jayce on the other hand can bully you with his range for free and if you ever get on top of him he sends you flying backwards and deals like 10% max health damage while he does. I’d rather fight GP all day
You should do more of these, it's nice to hear your actual 100% biased opinion every once in awhile
You mean based opinion?
He should just keep going until he does all the champs in the game, because let’s be honest, they are all annoying as shit
Promise you that you get that every video
Personal opinion: every champion in the game can be the most hated one for one reason or other.
@@NeuralNotes5 Yup. I remember absolutely despising Orianna for the sole purpose of she kept crowd controlling me. Granted I was a new player.
Finally, the list that’s just Yone 10 times.
would honestly not be surprised o_o
I'm sure yuumi on on here at least twice
Yone, yone, yone , yone, yone , yone, yone, yone, yone, Yumi
@@Sebastian36962 be like one is a typo: Yummi > Yone
Yasuo is way worse
Number 1, Aurelian Sol. After terrorising the rift since release, Asol has consistently been the most OP champion despite Riot’s best efforts to fix this
I think u mean ryze
@@Mon01 nah bro he's talking about rell
@@ironintegral6631 wait rell got released?!!!?
@@mohammedalsma266 who?
@@mohammedalsma266 I thought they cancelled her release
One thing you forgot about Akshan: I swear he is the only champion that is capable of tilting teammates with his voice-overs. There's nothing like making an embarassing mistake, having teammates spam-ping the "?", and then suddenly re-appear in the fountain with Akshan saying "Dear friends, please stop dying. -Love, Akshan."
I play Akshan only for tapping his ctrl4 and making my teammates feel uncomfortable
gwen is pretty bad for that. there are some ones that just push me over the edge. (plus most gwen mains are either extremely toxic racists, or think qwen is cute so its a lose lose dying either way)
@@LimeAtions how's gwen bad with that? I mained her for a bit and didn't think she was awful aside from maybe one or two voice lines
Well I have a personal hatred for Ezreal's voice lines, and want to strangle him every time I hear him. But that's just me I think.
@@LimeAtions i think you are confusing kassadin mains for gwen mains, also yes gwen is cute
As a toplaner, I would just remove Tryndamere from the game. If he's even or above you 'til 6, you're just screwed up: wins short trades due to q, wins extended trades due to passive and R, you can't outrun him if you're losing a trade because he will permablink into you, burn ghost or slow you, you can't win extended trades against him because he just presses a button and now you can't kill him, and all he takes is run you down with crits, slowdowns, blinks and ghosts if u try to escape, or just blink out of every situation.
There is no counterplay to that unless you're playing a ranged top, a Lillia top or a Jax, and the fact they want to rework him just scares me. He's even getting buffs now, just permaban.
Maybe youre just bad
If you cant beat trynda with a riven, olaf, darius teemo, whatever then youre jjst bad at this game
to me you're actually right
Well, there is a reason to why he‘s one of the candidate for a VGU
@@backbone93 delusional tryndamere player
@@maddog_majima9553 not if you know how to play to your champs abilitys
If you get cdr and much ap trynda cant do sht
You perma blind him and he will die everytime he goes all in on you
You should make a vid on what champs would make it to League 2 were it ever conceptualized, think it'd be a pretty neat watch :)
OHHH good idea :o
Honestly Hashinshin video about this was on point
Fix the spaghetti code, preferably.
Did you notice that Wild Rift had very few monster champions at first? And so they had to add a bunch all at once (Rammus, Renekton, Kha'Zix) because people complained.
I think that is what LoL 2 would look like, a game full of young, attractive human champions that Riot knows will sell skins.
Thank you for this word conceptulized, I was having an extentential crisis earlier but now it's all perfect life has meaning and I do have a place in the world,conceptulized
I see yone in the thumbnail and I already completely agree with this list
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when some1 says yone is broken i just spot bronze opinion
@@TremiX911 he may be not broken
However he is really overloaded. You cant change that fact
@@TremiX911 broken or not he is overall just pretty annoying to deal with as a champion whether bad or good. Sorta like how people don't actually care as much if a champ is broken unless they are either outrageously broken to the point of them not being able to lose or they are just annoying. People call Yasuo broken whether how good or bad he is because he is simply annoying and I think the same applies to Yone. It's like how orianna was one of the biggest picks in pro play for a really long time but no ones complains about her since they don't find her kit as annoying.-
I think Viego is one of the most counter intuitive designs in league. He feels as snowball and reset heavy as Master Yi, but he can punish you if he gets ahead OR if you get ahead, since he can steal your items. Considering his thematic as the Ruined King and the lord of the black mist, I've always thought an old-Mordekaiser style ult would fit him well if he ever came out, so when he was released, I was really disappointed.
Same. The champ is overloaded af, he only steals people's kits for their dashes and CC and then returns to Viego to be cancerously op again. I wish they would stop making auto attack champions, from the past 14 champions, 10 of the last 15 champions pretty much just auto attack you to death, some with a few abilities they throw in now and then. There's no room for outplay potential when being 20 meters away from them makes them immediately three-shot you with undodgable bullshit.
The issue with viego is that his base kit is hot garbage. W and ult are super mediocre abilities in a vacuum, his E and Q are only OK, nothing special. His passive takes up way too much of his power budget, so he ends up being the only skirmisher in the game whose base kit offers basically no defensive options. Fiora has W and passive heal, sylas has W and E (possibly ult too), gwen W, jax R and E belveth has her E, kayn has E and R, kled has his passive, master yi has W, tryndamere has R and Q, yasuo has passive and W, yone has E and w, lillia has R and movespeed for kiting, riven has Q and E.
Viego has nothing. If you can't straight up statcheck or one-combo your target, most other melee champs will dumpster you because they have something to help them survive, while the best viego gets is the camouflage on his e
I hate Viego, or I would say, I so disapointed when he release. Swain, a general, stand for Noxus's "Vision"(W). Azir, the Emperor,has an entire army. Viego, Ruined King, who supposed to "command" the Mist: hide inside the Mist, hide inside other's body.When not, fight people with a sword. Just an angry simp.
I have seen so many viegos turn into my suckass 0 7 jhin and try to do something that i dont hate him anymore.
Me too. I thought the RK is a juggernaut. Or a battle mage like the Witch King and I always pictured him as an ugly pasty wraith with hints of his former handsome looks but just twisted but I guess he needs to be commercialized. Thus we got an edgy emo boy with a Walmart frostmourne
I agree with you on Kennen, but my problem with Kennen is the braindead way players just E into your team, turn on ult, then turn on invincibility.
As a Kennen main, I hate that combo too. It's not fun, and it makes Kennen a truly ult dependent champ, disregarding everything else about him. That's why I usually don't buy Zhonya, unless necessary, and go for Riftmaker. It makes his ult less deadly, however he can actually use his other abilities, without dying after a single combo from a support.
12:10 my god this just reawakened a memory I’d repressed. My team plays an awesome teamfight, going 4 for 0 and positioning for baron. The 3/13 yone hits a nice 5 man ult (which at least three of us were clearly not inside the indicator for, but I digress). Cool, wp, he probably takes a good chunk off of our team and maybe stops the baron. Nah, fuck that, he *oneshots our entire team* at two items (shieldbow + IE ofc), straight through defensive items like zhonyas (not the active ofc), then proceeds to half the baron by himself before his team shows up to finish it off and give them such a massive gold swing that they manage to snowball and end the game from there. It’s so infuriating to see that no matter how hard I dumpster a yone, if he farms a side lane for 5 mins and hits his two item spike, he’ll be unstoppable regardless.
I mean after the team fight your team evn tho they did good would still have a small health after it so a yone getting a penta isn't that impressive but as you stated aparently 3 people weren't inside the ult indicator wich is the big problem of yone, a good ult is supposed to be a rewarding and and exiting moment because it's game changing now when it's not that Hard to make a good ult it destroys it's whole pourpouse and the whole 3/13, when i get destroyed as mundo i'am useless because mundo relies on doing great because having more regen then the enemie is his gimick now yone and yasuo can get destroyed and still be usefull because both have abilitys that don't relie on scaling to work (if yone is 13/0 or 0/13 his ult still CC's you if yasuo was afk until 10 minutes of the game his Wind wall still blocks projectiles) but both are assasins not frontlines that need to absorb the most projectiles and autos possible to defend the team so all their abilitys should scale because they are assasins that need to get rewarded for kills and get punished for not getting any.
I remember when I started playing league me and the jg caught out a Yone in the side lane and he was able to win because every 4 seconds we were knocked up and he got a shield every 8. After "skillfully outplaying" us instead of backing after being at 80 health he Qed a minion twice and went up to half hp.
let me guess, you're plat or lower.
i wish every game of yours was like that
that definitely happen
Even tho they have 200 years dashes or untargetability, Yone and yuumi can't dodge this list for sure
Add Bel’veth to it, she’s even worse than Yone in my opinion
@@aiogamesreal Useless but has a insanely high ban and pick rate. Despite that, also has a high win rate, even after the nerfs.
@@aiogamesreal yeah so I need to use the mechanic I don’t have ?
@@sagirem no CC?
@@aiogamesreal It doens´t disable the damage reduction...
I don't want any champion removed from the game. I want champions that are annoying to face, have overtuned kits (not in numbers) or just plain stupid champions to be made fair to play both as and against. I'm aware that's wishful thinking and against the very biased nature of this video, but I can dream.
And no, Yuumi does not count. I'm talking about champions, not items.
@@jaopedrorelesbeles As I said, since you didn't get the joke, we're talking about champions. Yuumi is an _item,_ it's not that she should be removed, it's that she should have never existed in the first place.
@@Pteriidae oh sorry I hadn't read everything just the beginning 😞
yuumi is a dlc
@@Pteriidae but an item costs gold, so there needs to be a new name for what yummi is
@@andrewswingle8825 Sarcasm, people. There's a thing called sarcasm. If you're really hard-pressed to find the reasoning, the figurative gold you're paying is your sanity for having that abomination leech off of you for the entire game, _anything_ goes. Or, just like rune items, they do not need to be paid for, especially since it's someone else making the choice of picking her. Calling her an item is a far better option than the nasty leech that she is, since that would ruffle her mains' feathers the wrong way... If they could read.
The main issue of GP is the 40%armor ignored on kegs.
I can understand that he is supposed to burst, but in lategame he legit burst even tanks.
That and the fact that he is a lane bully, that scales incredibly, with free gold generation thanks to first strike and Q passive.
Is so stupid that he gets 100% of the gold with first strike, he has way too much range and in toplane is literaly getting 50 gold every 25 secs
Your wrong he cant burst tank who know how to build correctly. Unless 4barrels is a one shot for you
@@googloocraft1217 40% ignored armor, plus LDR, plus some lethality here an there. But please, tell me how to build against him.
I remember barrels that dealt 1/2 of my health as cho'gath full armor with 12 stacks.
That damage is just too much for a basic ability. Even if it is a very conditional skillshot, it hits too hard and if the enemy has no mobility it's not so hard to land
@@LPh976 i guess the hefty damage is supposed to be a reward for landing the move in the first place. theoretically you have to walk in the range of a very obvious trap, so either GP outplayed you or you were an idiot for moving in that range in the first place. the problem is the barrel can be stealthed in bushes, and GP can shoot a barrel THEN put a new one before the chain reaction is complete. the result is a surprise attack that can cripple teams and offers no risk to GP himself. at least assassins have to go in to do their damage. the balanced thing about this is that multiple barrels do not stack damage on the same champ, and the barrels themselves have a hefty cooldown. still a small consolation when two regular skills combined can be more potent than an ultimate
@@Underworlder5 in a teamfight, the tank cannot just "move away". Your duty is to eat slows/roots that would otherwise hit the dps, you have to be near the enemy to be of any menace (75% of your damage is close range).
Moreover, it is not a flashy shot that you can have much time to dodge: wrt other flashy animations GP's is quite negligible and can be overlooked.
Any skillshot "can be dodged" but almost none does the damage of a keg. Just to make a comparison: Rumble's R does a comparable damage, but you have plenty of time to move away, and it is an ultimate.
The editing on this one was actually crazy good, not overedited, funny, cool style like damn stepped it up again
I agree with a lot of the ones mentioned in the comments so far, but my salt flavored choices are: pyke because I hate playing against a good one and I refuse to play him myself, and Kalista because I still have nightmares from when the meta favored her
Don't forget that if your own support picks pyke they think they have the right to take the kills even without there ult and when you "steal" them one kill they begin to mess up your farm...
kalista needs a rework cause she is either fucking shit or perma broken in pro play
@@bandi642 r/RyzeMains would like a word
@@lantami1199 yeah thats the reason why ryze had like a rework per season
@@lantami1199 7 time the charm
I also want to piss people off, so i am gonna post my own list just to see how much we agree.
10: Kaisa, she is supposed to be the adc that "adapts" her build according to the situation but every kaisa will always build whatever lord mobafire said it has the best winrate.
9: Samira, she is yasuo but with extra range and a free aoe nuke that heals her and has no cooldown and the melee aa are extra damage for not kiting.
8: Quinn, unless she misplays, you cant get close to her as a melee champ in the top lane, so you cant play the game.
7: Rengar, if he is having fun, no one else is.
6: Fiora, she just beats you because haha %true damage + healing + dashes + slow + free crit, and riposte is just broken.
5: Le Blanc, if she gets one kill you cant play the lane anymore, and she is super safe.
4: Sylas, can fail every skill shot, gap close anyway with W, heals all his hp and can use every ult in the game.
3: Yone, the stronges champ in the game in my opinion, high physical/magic/true damage, free trades with E, tons of cc thanks to 3Q and R, good
synergy with life steal, no mana costs, low cooldowns, Amazing Scaling, good early/midgame, no weaknesses
2: Akali, she is a fucking battlerite character in league of legends
1: Fizz, he always gets fed when i am not playing mid and then i have to face him when he already has 10 kills, fuck this champ. i will never stop banning him.
Bonus: Nilah has every tool to handle range champs as a melee champion (extra aa range, W is literaly jax counter, and 2 targeted Dashes,), and also has giant value thanks to the extra healing and shielding, free armor pen, AND EXTRA EXP.
i didn't agree with several champions on the list but #2 cracks me up lmao
10, the fact that people are building a champion wrong doesn't mean it should be remeoved
9, agree
8, that's how every ranged top works
7, that's how assassins work
6, true but you forgot about the invincibility on her w
5, agree
4, agree, yone has only one weakness, yone players are shit at league
3, agree but not in a way you said it. For me the problem with sylas is he is basically unstoppable if you have a low damage comp in you team (2 or more tanks). If he can get a few items you basically can't kill him, and he does not have to hit anything for that to happen
2, agree
1, he's an assasin, and I don't know a single assassin which is fun to play against.
When kai'sa AP was meta, I built her AD galeforce
Now the kraken slayer is meta, I still build galeforce
I just enjoy rocketbelt and galeforce as items
I'd also argue that since you put both Samira and yone... You could consider yasuo
Unlimited dashes and says no to the entire kit of half the champions in this game, playing control mage or adc against him is really reality really REALLY frustrating
@@doomkingraye7692 that is the giga chad way to play kaisa, also, i dont know why but i just dont hate yasuo as much, he i really strong but at least i feel like i have windows to fight when he doesnt have his W, i still think he is strong, but i wouldn't remove him from the game, (actually, i dont want any champ to be removed from the game, with a few changes a lot of this champs would be cool, i just dont like them the way they are now)
bel'veth for me. Its not that she is broken her damage numbers arnt amazing but playing against her makes me feel like no matter what I do she will escape and then scale to 5.0 attack speed at 20 min.
Yone is 9 of them. Yuumi the last one
Y'know, I love this.
The most based league content is the one you just throw stat aside and start full on malding.
Okay I can agree with your list but I have a deep personal grudge against senna. I am an adc main who prefers playing champs like xayah, aphelios and kai'sa, so very short ranged adc's. Normally that's not that much of a problem but against a senna sup I just can't play the game because she does so much damage while not having to farm, scaling infinatly, having aoe cc and healing for a tone. On top of that she also has her global ult so even if she is stuck in bot bullying me to all hell she can still shield her 1/5 irelia who gets the big shutdown on our jungler who gets instantly tilted and runs it down mid!
Yeah I hate this champ...
I never know how far I have to stand from her because her range scales infinitely. I hate it so much
This... Idk why they made her as a support should have been another adc if u asked me
Also her along with that pyke
I hate it too, but I think that removal isn't necessary, she just needs a little rework
And she can build rapid fire cannon which makes her range so stupid
Teemo is invisible that’s why he wasn’t shown
I love cass being in the game just for the fact that dodging her ult, picking that perfect timing to turn around, is so satisfying to pull off
And then you get stunned anyway HAHA
try to play vex vs her and tell me if u still feel the same way
@@freezy2613 Vex is a Mage that is supposed to be trash against any other Mages.
@@freezy2613 burst vs dps will always be bad in extended trades, welcome to league
The one not in the list I'd pick on the top is probably Viego, his passive grants him 15 basic abilities + 5 zhonya's + 5 stridebreaker + 5 heal in fight (if you only count till last enemy that's still 12+4+4+4) with that amount of value, his basic kit should be weak, but his basic kit also deals massive amount of damage that can 100-0 squishies, solokill normal jungler champion lv1-2, not to say there's excessive amount of bugs when stealing enemy champions.
Id be more fine with him if at least his base numbers were lower. instead he does the damage that most assasins can't do just with his lvl 6 powerspike, which already enables him to make kill chains if one squishy ends up exposed for even a short time. and then good luck catching him when he gets ahead with his two dashes stun and invis, most fed Viegos I've seen die to their own overagression, thinking their champ is even more op than he is.
Viego can't use enemy summon spells or active items
I wish he was locked in stolen champions' bodies for a few seconds instead of just using their dashes/CC then pressing R because Viego himself is 100x better than any champ he steals. His autos do ridiculous amounts of damage, which is partially because of items too. As an alternative to that, I'd love for Riot to just cut all item damage in half. I swear, look at the death recaps after dying to someone with Bork and Kraken Slayer, it's literally:
Items - 1531
Auto attacks - 746
Abilities - 352
Like what is that?! People are actually playing items now instead of their champions and it's really infuriating. I can't ban items. It's not just Viego either, he's just a prime example of this.
@@xanderalexander2545 so?xd
@@sarunightamber701 he cant use the zhone heals and strikebreakers in the original comment
After seeing the last few new champions I struggle to think that we actually need more champions
We don’t but they bring in more money than reworks so....
There's plenty of novel champion designs that they could go for, they just... don't, and pander to highlight reels instead.
@@phoenixflamegames1 I really don’t believe Riot when they say that at all. You cannot convince me reworked Akali hasn’t brought in more money than any new champion since her rework. Same for Irelia, Kayle, Aatrox, etc.
@@Limrick1029 They actualy said reworks give more money, the problem with reworks is that they need to remake all skins AND remove a champion from the game(something "mains" hate), new champions are just easier to make and after some time people just forget about them.
they haven't made enough overloaded mobile diversity quota champs yet
Surprised that Akali and Katerina are not on this list, as those two can outright win a game on their own. They are true feast or fammine champs, if fed, game is pretty much over unless you can focus your hard CC on them.
My personal hate champ is Viktor. Even though his E is a "Skillshot" its almost undodgable poke with super high range and no interaction, other than being forced to backport after tanking too many of 'em.
yeah i play him a lot he feels like he has no counterplay. He has so little bad matchups and is so hard to punish for anything. Very obnoxious to play against.
@@iUseDemFrapz constant harass, an incredible zoning tool, and that neat little mini fiddle ult make him a permaban for me
Agree
If u didn’t know u should’ve played him before his rework. His E has burn damage that could one shot anyone it was disgusting but fun. It was during the time when one Cass Q or Nida spear can oneshot you
That e needs to be slowed down. You need to start dodging it when his 3rd arm moves. If the beam is out, you can't dodge.
For me (in order)
10: Brand
He just does way to much damage even as support, i don't think he is that strong as a champion but its personally irritating to get 100 to 0'd by a brand support with 1 item
9: Malzahar
Literally the most interactive boring champ to play and to play against. Also can just makes the game unfun for 1 person with his R
8: Vayne
Im a sion main, nothing much more needs to be said
7: Diana
Very low skill assassination combo with huge dash while having a super ultimate and great scaling (plus has the luxury to build zhonyas bc ap)
6: Shaco
You can never kill him while he just runs around places boxes and doing nothing helpful for his team while being nothing more then an annoyance to my team
5: Eveylnn
Very poor design champ that does nothing for her first 6 levels then suddenly can win a game all by herself after a single double kill
4: Fiora
PERCENT HEALTH TRUE DAMAGE HAHAHAHAHAHA
3: Yone
This video already explains my dislike for yone
2: Gangplank
He may have a really high skill celing but even an infant ape whos blind can Q spam in lane and just win the lane that way
1: Kayn
I. Hate. Kayn.
I feel you bro I also have a HUGE hate for Kayn
@@mythmage8231 i think a better way for me to put it is evelynn is either useless or absolutely dominating, no in between.
@@chowderr8740 She can dominate if the enemy team AFKs in front of her for a bit
Respectable list. I miss when Diana's Q didn't explode and her dash was her ult. She still did a lot of damage, but she actually had counterplay back then. Also Guinsoos should be removed to make Vayne, Kog'Maw and a few other champions balanced.
based list, but aany of these lists that dont contain pyke are objectively wrong lul^^ (mostly kidding but im really not)
To be irredeemable the answers to the following questions must both be “no”:
1. Can their abilities be tweaked to fulfill their fantasy in a less toxic way?
2. Can their fantasy be changed to be less toxic?
Here are some champions not already found in your video.
Viego - Infinite abilities
- normally after using all your abilities you are vulnerable until they come off CD
- Viego just gets 3 free basics and a free R
- R is unstoppable
- possession grants extra healing AND untargetability for enough time to stall
- effectively resets his abilities once, and then again when he returns to his base form (low CDs)
Zilean - Chronoshift cuckold
- Started when I saw Bjergsen pick him at Rift-Rivals or All-Stars
- ruined the unga-bunga fights by reviving a teammate
- turns slightly losing games into unwinnable games
- R prevents pick-making for 6 seconds
- E makes it impossible to run away from his team
- needs reworking of both E and R to become less frustrating
Pyke - Gold inflation
- Quite common for Pyke to provide 3-6k gold to allies, not counting the gold he keeps for himself
- doesn’t have to stay in-lane, can actually just move
Bel’Veth - Infinite scaling for farming
- in season 10 camps spawned every 2 minutes
- Shyvana, Karthus, Master Yi could scale for existing
- Riot explicitly stated it was a problem and increase spawn times to 2:15
- Bel’veth rewards the player for doing the same
- also 30% + 2x lifesteal and 70% damage reduction on her E
- Shieldbow + bork + BT + legend bloodline -> >100% lifesteal (:
Tryndamere - Rarr
- many of my friends have lost lane to a Tryndamere
- because of his R he walks over them, stays ungankable, and kills our inhibitor at 16 minutes
Katarina - full resets and partial ult reset
- Tristana, Vex only reset their mobility, not their main damage abilities
- Katarina expends her abilities on someone and then gets to do it again
- see Viego for similar issues
Yuumi - Untargetable
- thought about a kit where Yuumi could apply buffs to a nearby ally
- but she would have to stay close to them and use their body as a meat shield
- maybe 10% less damage taken from targeted abilities while near ally
That was very nice to read
for yuumi , maybe making her take a portion of the damage ( post mitigation damage ) taken by the ally she's attached to would fix the issue .
For yuumi, they could also make her mana costs way higher, but also make her passive have almost no cooldown late game, so she is forced to get out to get more mana, would also make her have more skill expression since you need to know what times are safe to get out so you dont get hit by cc.
btw bel veth's best item is kraken slayer
I wish pyke even generated gold, with the recent nerfs now he's a useless ult bot :(
I can respect losing to a gp, it takes a good amount of hours to get that skill
Meanwhile senna has been an absolute monster since release but because her thematic sells so well they'll never truly balance her. She gets insane poke, can easily sustain in lane with grasp while scaling on health, and gets free crit/lifesteal. I'm a tank support main so that's probably where my resentment comes from
Tank support mains aren't real. Therefore you don't exist.
This message was bought to you by kraken slayer and so many champs that have built in true dmg in their kits.
gp require no skill nowadays bruh, just like he said in the video; poke with q, put barrel on your feet to be safe, w if cc'ed and ult bot before they fight. and you dont need to be faker to pull of a barrel combo, you can almost master barrel combos after like 20 games of course stuff like one-part is harder im talking about just basic 2-3 barrel chain combo. GP was such a cool champ for me but now he is just cancer.
While I agree with like 80% of this list there are four champions that feel missed their spotlight in this video for similar reason listed here, those champion being sylas, katarina, and especially ekko and Diana. The four of these champion prove almost without a doubt that mage items are subpar at best and that it’s the kits that make the champ, Diana and katarina prove this really well with the new meta bruiser and tank build using divine sunderer and sunfire aegis and still nuking the whole team with a low cdr ult, then ekko does that same effect one shots a team just with ult but also heals all dmg just taken, but that’s not even his op part, his passive that does 1100 dmg on third hit plus the ability dmg, then sylas, a dash into a heal into a knock up into a high dmg q then autos that shred in a aoe, oh just to then steal any one’s ults, maybe even these op ults listed here but even better. So point being just imagined if they actually made good ap items and these champs got ahold of them, nerfed immediately
Shaco: hard to catch up due to true stealth
Camille: easy access to true damage
Yuumi: shift her pressure for free to ally
Kayn: 2 empowered version of Kayn turns high risk high reward to low risk high reward
Gangplank: physical damage control mage, an OP archetype
Leblanc: juggernaut stands no chance against her
Cassiopeia: very strong cc especially ground from miasma
Akshan: abomination of overloaded kit with no personality
Yone: he may not forgive Yasuo his kit forgives players for being bad
Kennen: huge advantage for being energy base so he can spam skill as long as he has health
It's actually kinda what Riot did with Wild Rift. The majority of the most hated champs are either not in the game, or reworked
Yasuo,Yuumi,Irelia,Katarina and Fiora?
@@giovanniarana5619 Katerina got massively reworked on transfer because an item here is Broken and hitting her was easier to do; Irelia had to be reworked to *function* on a mobile platform and the AI for not manually using Q is worse than an Iron player and thats the only way to even remotely copy the pace of PC irelia. Camille lost her ability to make sheen items true damage on transfer. Other than that there is no contest to that list. Also you forgot Riven, a horsewoman of toplane, joined too and they preserved her down to a T in all but specific numbers.
Though i will give credit in that OP said *Most* of the hated ones arent here and not all.
@@casualmarkit9969 Wait Camille is stronger at the non mobile version???
@@crazyperson2733 No, she is FAR stronger pc. PC she can convert all of any sheen's damage into True damage with Q2, which is missing from WR. In WR they also nerfed the true damage early game. It deals 40% damage at ability lvl 1. Meaning it deals less damage than Q1 against all enemies you encounter, and the reason i bring this up is because im mentioning ways WR handled the super annoying and rage inducing parts of champ's kits, and they removed 2 of them for Camille. Sheens converting to true damage and excessive amounts of true damage at all points in the game; she literally cannot do the former and she only has decent or excessive true damage as early as the mid game, meaning she lost any meaningful amounts in lane and that was half the true damage related frustrations simply Removed. She is 100% very balanced in WR compared to PC Camille. As anti Tank is always Anti champ she is still frustrating to fight at all points as anyone (assuming a good Camille player) as thats the point of her design basically, but she is in a FAR healthier place than PC in WR.
If I had to remove one champ it would have to be Warwick. Warwick sorta just… stops taking damage when he gets low.
Riven: Just bullshit stats. You can never really tell how much damage they're gonna do. One riven jumps on you and does a full combo and it does 100 damage, the other riven deletes you from full doing what looks like the same thing.
Irelia: You can't just dash 10 times and heal to full mid fight. It feels so fking bullshit.
Fiora: You can't just be an item down and win anyways because durability patch made you tankier while basically not affecting your damage at all. Also conceptually the champ makes no sense. You shouldn't have a "I win 1v1s" champ in the 1v1 lane. What if riot introduced a champ that can 1 shot any mage by right clicking them as soon as they have vision with global range? Would be bullshit right? And it wouldn't stop being bullshit when I say "Oh but it's the anti mage champ". In both cases you have similar counterplay.
Heimerdinger: He will one shot you if you're melee and he can't do anything if you're ranged. Cringe.
Ekko: Me see enemy. Me E Q auto. Combo no work. Me R back. Me see enemy. Me E Q auto. Combo Work. Profit.
Katarina: I cannot compel my team to not int to her. No matter how behind she is she always comes back and wins.
Viego: I shouldn't lose a fight after 3 enemies are down just because viego got a posses. Also he stacks conqueror in 1 and does Yi levels of damage with Kraken build.
Bel'Veth: I know she's new, and I don't mind her most of the time, it's just that she has a fiora situation where she can beat any fighter a whole item down by pressing E. Yi's fine cuz at least he's killable, this shit ain't
Yuumi: Duh
Lulu: Remove her because of the playerbase that plays her. Hopefully hey quit.
I also basically only play fighters, and I'm fine with hard counters like cassio and leblanc. Cuz even though I stand no chance to kill them it's pretty hard for them to run me down as well. But the above shit is not only unkillable for fighters, but also has no problem at all killing them or breaking their base.
The champions with the "pull you out of position" abilities - Blitzcrank and Pyke especially. At least with the diving abilities, the enemy doing so is putting themselves in bodily harm's way, including Lee Sin diving in to kick you away. Blitz and Pyke? Nah. You can be doing just fine positioned under your tower and/or with your team then get hit with ONE ability and suddenly you're in the middle of their team getting dogpiled while they remain grouped up and safe. Thresh's is almost ok because it doesn't pull you that far and he has to dive in to basically use the rest of his kit.
I just can't believe you left Akali out, i used to main it, but man. She's the flashiest and easiest assassin, simply ridiculous. It's the only champ in the game that can kill you through everything, if she wants to kill you, ain't no teammate gonna save you. I just think she would be my first go to, i love the lore and the character, but with that kit i ain't never touching her again
It's fine, Akali is balanced by being unable to _not_ recast her E, even if it'll kill her to do so.
I don't know why they keep doing it, but if I'm a full health tank fed out of my mind and she's got a sliver of health left, she still _just can't resist_ going for that shuriken flip recast. Happens all the time lol
@@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149Akali enjoyer here. I plead guilty lol
I'd love more lighthearted content like this, sometimes the usual design videos get stale. Keep it up!
"Assassins are meant to be high risk high reward"
The boat has long since sailed on that. Kha has him jump for a free escape and stealth, Talon jumps over any wall, Zed shadows away, Shaco has everything to escape forever, Kayne can cross a billion walls.
Honestly at this point in the game it feels like assassins are the safest class to play, they've given them just a ton of escape tools to make sure that if they don't get that kill they don't need to be punished.
I mean...yes and no
Kha'zix needs evolved wings AND a kill for jump reset. That's technically safe, but also very conditional
Talon jumps over any wall...unless he jumps over it to gap-close or engage
Zed same. You want your shadow for damage, not escape. His ult is much more of an escape tool than his W
Shaco yes. he's very safe.
Kayn, well, his E does have a long cooldown, but I kinda agree it's quite safe. It's nowhere near braindead, but it's very safe
I'm surprised you didn't mention Evelynn though. Honestly.
yk that assasins are supposed to have mobility and outplay potential right and zed has one of the shorter dashes compared to most assasins most of what he has is reposition but its predictable
@@Jacob-zn6ov Yeah, Zed is definitely balanced and has a lot of counterplay. Kha'Zic and Shaco are very irritating and don't have so much. They really need to add a true-visio-granting support item to the game, even if the active only lasts a few seconds.
@@lemon3389 You realize Duskblade alone nullifies all of your counterarguments.
@@Jacob-zn6ov I mean that's my point, he said they were high risk high reward, but in lol having a load of mobility makes you low risk, and all assassins have loads of mobility so are low risk.
Camille easy fix :
Transfer power from her Q to her R. Make her R deal burst physical damage based on AD & missing HP. Remove the unescapable web from her R.
Maybe add a .5 s silence and slow to her R on impact.
then shes just another garen/darius/sett type
The fundemental issue with Yone is he's fine to play against.....until he snowballs....then you effectively can't walk near the lane, ever
I love how you indirecty said that Yuumi is just an OP item
My list:
- Veigar: best cc skill ? easy infinite AP stacking ? Massive outplay potential with his ultimate ? count him in
- Yuumi: hate playing with her, against her, as her
- Master Yi: "just cc him lel". Hopefully he'll never get tenaci- nevermind
- Zeri: even Riot doesn't know what to do with her since she gets buffed/nerfed every patch
- Illaoi: "just dodge her e"
- Yorick: "just dodge his e" but unironically
- Yone: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
- Ryze: just free the poor souls that still main this guy
I hate Illaoi so much, I’m a top lane Mundo main and whenever I have to pick before the enemy top laner I have a 90% chance to fight her and even if I perfectly poke her to near death and fight her at level 6 at full hp I still lose because of that stupid ult that one shots me and heals her
Veigar is so ridiculously outplayed that including him on the list just cause of his cage, his infinite AP scaling in a game that is evermore faster and ending before he can even get enough AP, and because of his ult that completely fits the character theme, is just bs.
I'm main mage, and if one knows how to deal with him, then you're screwed. You have a terrible low range, you have no mobility, your cage is easily avoidable, and the ult you have to be really close to use it. It's only fair that he gets this "massive outplay potential" with his ult, he's slow as fuck and don't have mobility, what do you want?😂😂
the thing is as a shaco main I can speak on behalf of the community and agree with you because that's literally why we play him
it's the fact that he's so annoying and hated that we love him, there is a certain type of pleasure we get when we one tap someone with an auto without them even seeing us before or after the kill or from running away trolling the enemy team with our clone or jacky box because we know on the other side of the screen they're crying and screaming and from now on going forward we'll live in their heads rent free as they keep perma banning our champ and explaining why they hate us so much and wish nothing but pain and misery for us
ik we sound pretty sadistic but that's because we are
even if we aren't toxic or annoying we embody that persona when we play him because we are one with him when play him and that's how you become a great shaco play, by being shaco himself in a way
also great vid love it :D
YUUMI!!!
Wait, Yuumi is not a champion, she is just a legal AFKing tool.
A yugioh tool card in a champion
Yuumi is not a champion she is the equivalent of having an extra mythic item
Yone (obviously), Yasuo, Riven, Fiora, Irelia, Yuumi, Master Yeet, Fish, Vayne, and Katarina. They're all so annoying with their insane mobility, OPness, and toxic playerbase.
Noo vayne ... I get it I have Lovehate relationship with her and she is my main
"Fish" lmao
I think Fizz and Riven aren't so bad, but pretty good list overall
I can't help but agree with a lot of your list, even for characters I personally love. I've often thought about outright changes to shaco and yuumi specifically to make them less frustrating to play against. Less CC, more interaction mechanics, something
I'd raise my own delete from the game champ, pyke. He's a more consistent blitz crank, who's whole balance factor was he had to land his Q to be any good. For pyke, he is just stacked with privilege. His Q doesn't pull as far, so it has a brutal slow built in and can be quick cast at melee range because the safety champ can't be allowed to struggle ever. He can't build tanky like bitz, so he gets over the top good regeneration in lane tied to camo and a massive speed buff that doesn't even slow you afterwards. Those are just the parts that match blitz, he's got a whole kit that invalidates blitz and a lot of counter play too. Quick dash for extreme safety on top of what hes got, and it's a stun so you can't even match him with other hyper mobile champs, An AOE stun even. it's so easy to land off of it's dash and his crazy movement W. And my god the privilege on that execute. Double gold on landing one of the easiest aoe spell in the game with safety boxes in an X shape on what is already an easy to land circle cast? Try that but it refreshes on that privilege execute kill. It invalidates any last stand mechanics like olaf or the rune "last stand". On a squishy no mobility adc this would be a strong ult, but on the safest champ in the game, even over yuumi who is untouchable for 99% of an encounter, this is just a game buster of a no fun champ to see in game.
I know he falls under the feast or famin flag, but i think he has that yone quality where his feast is unplayable against and his famine isn't quite famine enough. At worst he has a safer yone ult with less damage. Sometimes I wonder if both akshan and pyke would be better if they swaped their execute and revive mechanic
For me, it's Ezreal. The guy USED to be skill reliant - but now he does so much damage for how safe, and easy to play, that he is
I would said that too, but I haven't seen a ezreal carry a game xD
I think ez has the most unrealiable DPS out of any adc out there, his entire kit is skillshots and for autos to be even remotely useful you also need to hit your abilities continuously
everyone is mobile now, he's as useless as he is safe
There's only one champ I want to remove and it's Bel'veth.
Otherwise I have no problem with most champs. Only champs I have problem with are new ones/stat checkers, but rather than removing them I would rework/rebalance them.
That's fair. I hate Bel and stat sticks too. I love the concept of outplay so seeing the enemy delete me by clicking on me once with a targetted ability or auto attack and makes me so depressed. Many tanks too, since they have so much CC, damage and HP/resistances. Very uninteractive.
*Laughs in fed crit Garen*
Since I'm a support main, I've LOVED the small taste of 200 years that Senna has provided, so much so to the point where she became my main. In League, most overloaded champions are annoying skirmishers that exist in the top lane. Personally, I hate going against them, but I also hate playing them too due to personal tastes, so I cannot really take advantage of their existence. However, Senna has permanently scaling AD and AUTO-ATTACK RANGE, AoE damage, lots of healing, camoflauge for the team, and a global ult that both does sniping damage and can single-handedly protect an entire team. She also has a Jhin-style passive that makes kiting on her much easier compared to high attack speed marksmen. They took a marksman, which is a class I enjoy but cannot play well, but put it into a support WITH OVERLOADED MECHANICS. She also has a crit build, a lethality build that makes her vision control uncontested with Umbral Glaive, and even a tank build. Her only downside is her CC being somewhat lacking, but her root can still hit an entire team, and its range is still insane. I'm glad that she was the first POC woman in the game, tied into the lore well, and combined my two favorite playstyles while adding a bunch of unnecessarily strong stuff on top. Even then, she's not that bad to begin with compared to a lot of the more recent champions.
dude same man i love playing her too. i cannot play marksman because i get tunnel vision so senna was perfect to climb for me . but she was nerfed to the ground last patch in wildlife .
Honestly I'd remove/rework every champ since Viego. Not even being dramatic, each of them has been a balance disaster. The only one that feels like their in a healthy place now is Vex. But Veigo, Gwen, Zeri, Bel Veth Ahkshan all have the most baffling design to me. Especially Gwen, so little actual gameplay in that kit.
You forgot to list Renata, her too?
And you forgot Renata, just like Riot did 🙃
Agree with you.
Only champ that is OK is Renata, but I would remove her Revive from W, so it would work like old Yorick R.
@@walkelftexasranger It is not a revive, it is death prevention. If they WOULD die they have a short chance to get a takedown and if they do their life is set at 25% always and only get it once per cast. I have yet to see it as that much of a problem and most people forget about her cause overall she is pretty weak and a niche pick of a support.
@@walkelftexasranger I think they should make it so you have to activate it at least a second before the champion dies in order for the "revive" to work, plus it should have more indication. It's so poorly designed how a champion can literally die the second it activates and immediately be granted another life. Zilean is irritating, but at least you can see his ult on his target and wait it out if needed. Counterplay.
For my list of ten hated champions :
Yone (no dash on R if it doesn't hit any champion, no movespeed with the e, the knock-up range of third q is reduced)
Akali (shift the majority of the damage on q and passive instead of having it all on the dashes)
Bel'Veth (make it that her q really limits the directions towards which she can dash instead of still allowing her to dash three times towards the same direction, four if she hits her w, do not let her dash through thick walls, maybe remove the lifesteal from e)
Seraphine (make her only buyable with rp, so that people remember why she was added to the game)
Diana (either reduce her natural tankyness with giving more damage but no shield or reduce the dash distance)
Akshan (remove the stealth and the revive)
Kayn (give him a bigger cooldown on his e)
Pyke (make the ult no longer a direct execute, but an ability that deals damage with missing health, move the stun out from the dash, change the invisbility to a skillshot that, when hitting, turns Pyke invisible or something like that, why not putting the stun that got removed from the dash there too, I don't really know about the shared gold, since the ult would be weaker it may not need to be removed)
Yuumi (make her way weaker when out of a body)
Gwen (I have no idea what to do but her immunity is not legal)
Morgana (make it so the black shield can block only one cc per ennemy champion at each cast (so still five total))
There is also viego and qyana I dislike but don't really know how to modify, sylas' healing is a pain to deal with too, I personally don't like kassadin either but there's nothing fundamentally wrong with him I think
There are some good agreeable points though I would like to make some adjustments/additions that fit my biased view of the game:
1. Zilean: Nobody likes to play him, nobody likes to play against him. One of the most unpopular champions that even riot themselves has admitted is very overpowered and the only reason he's not nerfed into the ground is because of his low pickrate. There's just nothing to do against this guy, a 0/5 and a 5/0 Zilean are pretty much the same E R spam bots.
2. Fiora instead of Camille: A Camille will beat you in lane if she's better than you, a fiora will beat you if she's good at all. Basically you don't really have a say in the fiora matchup, you can just pray that this guy can't land the chinese fiora 0.1sec ult combo or lose. Also she's way harder to shut down late game than a Camille, her reposte is probably one of the best trading tools in the game even without timing it well to counter a cc ability it slows your attack speed so much that most auto attackers wouldn't notice a difference between the heavy slow and insane attack speed slow or not being able to move at all
3. Bel'veth should be changed or just removed: I dread having this champion on my team and I dread having her on the enemy team. If she's on my team I know I'll pretty much get no jungle assistance and if she's on the enemy team she feels like a hyper mobile melee kayle with resets and true damage that I cannot zone off xp for her terrible early game.
4. Even though I play him a lot Ornn isn't the healthiest champion at the moment. He just provides too much for his team. Good damage? Check. Amazing cc? Check? Insanely tanky? Check. Not to mention that past level 13 he just gives thousands of gold worth of stats to his team for free. It's also insane how differing in gold value all his Ornnaments are. I will straight up just tell my team tp build Frostfire, Rocketbelt, Eclipse, Kraken or Moonstone because if we have those 5 items I might aswell just randomly generated 5-7k gold for our team out of thin air, also he himself gets INSANE amounts of tank stats for upgrading items. I don't think Ornn should be outright removed hes really fun and has a place in the game but damn he kinda feels dirty to play at the moment
5. Vayne: Even fucking fiora has to get into harms way to do her bullshit % health true damage not to mention that she still has to hit a specific side of her oponent which is really hard to do in teamfights while avoiding cc and damage all from melee range. Vayne just kinda has to sit back and auto attack, why the fuck does she have an invisibility on a 1.5 sec cooldown when she ults again? I don't know lol, don't think riot does eather but whatever. And I'm serious saying that I really wouldn't be making a problem out of Vayne if she was forced into building pure damage like all other adcs, but no that would be too fair to make her a squishy champion that dies easily in fights haha! Why not allow her to build 4 tank items while still shredding everything she touches with a Shieldbow and Rageblade. Slap an enchantnter on her ass and you have a 3K hp 200 armor 150 mr creature that goes invisible 20 times per fight, gets constant shields heals and buffs, has a point and click disengage and kills any tank in the game within 12 autos. Even her "low range" problem is mitigated by the LT rework.
both camille and fiora should be removed no cap
Whoever added true dmg passive to vayne needs to be skinned then dipped in salt.
It's not "low effort" content, it's content we love, its your content
Should do a video on "The problem with High-Skill Champions" or something like that.
This is because I've noticed a lot of the community's most hated champions are mechanically demanding. All the Four Horsewomen of Top Lane, Gangplank, Leblanc, Qiyana, Akali, Zed, Katarina, stuff like Zeri, Samira and Pyke down in botlane, and probably some more I can't think of right now.
Now that I look at the list, you could probably do to add that assassins especially suffer from this problem. I have my own reasons for why I think these parallels exist, but I think it would be really cool to hear your take.
its a simple answer most of these champs are suppose to be high skilled but they really arent and their kits are too forgiving for the skill level that should be required to play them. pyke for example is an assassin support that is suppose to ks. you would think to counter his damage they would make him really squishy and once he is caught he is dead but no, he gets a speed boost that allows him replenish missing health and go invisible. so he can basically get out of any bad situation easily, and almost everyone of the champs you mentioned have similar abilities.
@@tonguepop9453 Well, he IS very squishy, having 1300 HP lvl 18. He is just very slippery
Simply the skill they need to be used well needs some reward. And that reward is performing better than their "noskill" counterparts. While on paper it sounds ok in practice it feels like one person is playing a soloplayer game. Instead of the game being a tactical and strategy based battle there is one person having all the tools and you just have to wait for them to screw up. By giving one player agency it takes away ot from the other. That is basically why they had to make THE hugh skill ceiling champion, Azir, basically unplayable.
Kind of funny how everyone thought that Aphelios would be the most cancerous to go up against just cause of the overloaded kit. Now thinking about it, playing him is fun and i maybe know only like ten people who dislike playing against him.
I'd rather face aphelios all day than have one game against a sweaty bald akali main dude..
@@zer0sevenine153 Aphelios is how to do a difficult champ right imo. Most of the skill in playing him lies in game knowledge, and that's a lot harder to master than mechanics. Same with stuff like TF.
My list will be
10.vladimir buying life steal is one thing, having it in your kit is another
9.singed he just doesn't have a play style for league
8.kayn to many times i almost one shoted him just for him to press r and win
7.yone as vars said privilege
6.gank plank w is too annoying (maybe cuz i started as mord main and my hatr for him just sticked)
5.pyke r reset more gold for kill should i say more
4.yummi
3.illaoi e and you won the trade the enemy didn't even strated
2.akshan fucking revive
1.vayn %max health true damage
0.ryze if you can't fix my main just delete him and end my suffering riot
Somehow forgot teemo
Yone is the Garen of mid lane but he actually scales. If you have a basic understanding of the game he's easier to play than Annie.
Pretty sure Nilah will be included to the list in the near future
Definitely. Unless she gets abysmal ratios.
@@Lowaver Out of her entire kit, it's kind of sad to say the two dash ability is the most fair one, considering how many jokes were made about every champ having thousands of dashes...
cause giving jax E, diana R, AoE autoattacks and a free shared spirit visage + xp boost to an adc is completely fair lmao.
Figure every champ will have insane mobility or untargetability. My personal unbiased pick I haven’t seen yet is Vayne. Fuck Vayne.
I used to hate Yone too but then Riot blessed me with Vex and now the enemy team locking in Yone and attempting to try-hard anime main character me and dash directly into my turret out of desperation is the funniest 45 minutes of my day and one the few joys this game even brings me anymore
win against op bs as op bs lol, you are not better
It's not about being OP it is about how fair it feels to fight. Yone will feel unfair even if he is garbage tier as does Yuumi.
@@yasarmmmdzad5026 how is vex op bs? the only actually strong part of her kit is her R and it's not even that strong when she's not 11/0 because of her cooldowns
@@thelostsoul9446 he’s tripping. Vex is balanced.
@@yasarmmmdzad5026 vex is not OP. I give rito a lot of crap for their game balance (or lack thereof) but I have to admit that vex is actually one of the more balanced champs in the game. She is only a menace when fed, but you could say the same thing about all champs
As a veigar fanatic I should say he’s also up there, he plays like a squishy up close mid scaling champion getting outscaled by almost everything
Pyke is the champion that I'd want removed. Even a bad Pyke can still perform and absolutely skew the gold generated in a game to absurd levels. He's the epitome of a champion that is unfun to play against. He deals huge damage with good CC, is tanky as hell since he can camouflage himself and heal at the same time which also just lets him re-engage. But obviously his main power budget is placed into his ult, a true damage, true execute, and as if that wasn't enough - he actively grants gold out the ass and will forever have a general low power level because of that alone.
I just hate that even a bad Pyke can technically hand out a total of 4500 gold across all team members if everyone gets an assist on every teamfight that Pyke executes in. Like, you are already winning the fight, why does every single teammate also get a total of 900 gold perr kill on top of that? It's dumb and it easily snowballs a losing team, or just hard snowballs an already winning team. The fact that his resets also last for approximately two lifetimes is also absurd to me.
Trynd better be on there or i riot
Actually i love to see more opinionated content like this, its refreshing. Keep up the good work :)
Akali should also be just thrown out of the game completely. A champion having a thousand dashes and an invisibility should not deal that amount of damage. I didn't even mention how far those dashes can go, Akali just bursts someone down in the blink of an eye while being nigh uncatchable. If an Akali with enough items decide to kill you, there's little to nothing you and your team can do
Zoe, Lillia, Gwen, Bel'Veth, Zeri, and Nilah are also abominations in the rift
3:28 "Fiora is much easier to kite" She gains 20-50% move speed when she hits a vital, and she can press r to also gain this move speed for 8 seconds. Her q is a dash on a 6 second cd at rank 5 that goes down to 3 if she hits a target WITHOUT any ability haste, imagine with ability haste. If you think this is much easier to kite, idk what game we're playing here.
@Nathan Waterser Her hookshot can be cancelled with cc if timed correctly, fiora can parry any attempt to cc her during her q dash lol, and will instead stun you the target
@@Autoswitched camille's q also Grant's her ludicrous amount of movespeed, and with trinity it's like double your movespeed. They can both easily stick to you once already in range but camille can do so from much farther away, hookshot has like triple fiora Q range
@@xdrago1051 She has to hit you with the q at melee range to get the move speed for 1 second. Fiora can just press her r button or hit a vital in the general area. Once again, hookshot can be cancelled and has a 12 second downtime at max rank. Fiora q has a 2 second downtime if she hits a champ/minion with a few items. You can cc camile whilst she's mid air, and simply escape. Fiora you cannot do this as ccing her risks you eating a parry into stun thus making her impossible to kite.
@@Autoswitched fioras parry stun is a rarity, I rarely get hit by it and rarely hit it on others unless telegraphed. Not to mention not every champ has cc. You're acting like her parry is a 100% stun when in reality 99% of the time you just predict their cc and pray they try it
Camilles q cd is so low you can always keep the movespeed up, Camille can use e twice in all in's usually, alongside R, and her 80% slow off w. Camille also has more effective engage to actually stick to her target.
While I believe camilles harder to escape, they're both hard and camille has more effective range. So camille wins when it comes to engaged and overall stickiness.
fiora is hard to kite, camille is impossible to kite
I think Camille would be fine if Precision Protocol's second cast just had the damage nerfed like you said or, rather than making the bonus damage true damage instead of all of it, the 2nd cast instead has a large amount of armor penetration (40-60%?) so that damage reduction still works against it and she can't shred tanks quite as fast.
its from 20% to 100% based on level
Maybe make the true dmg in a specific part like sett.
Great video!
If I'm being honest I'd probably remove every infinitely stacking champion because I just dislike the concept of it.
9:36 okay, but she's a mage specifically made for the midlane and specifically made to stop all the assasins mobility. I mean it would be better if she didnt benefit as much from the tank items, but if you take out the grounded effect you take out her viability in the midlane, which she is made for
She flickers faster than katarine or kassadin.
I rest my case.
Xerath q range being the same length as your monitor is fun
oh I wonder how my list will be since I'm an aram only player as the first 4-8 of my list are primarily aram only anti fun design
Kai'sa: W centric builds that do 30% of your hp as a squishy with only 1 minion wave to heal from for your whole team and no backing.
Ashe: imperial mandate, manamune and axiom arc puts her w on a 3 second cooldown, with it being the size of the lane giving her team bonus damage whilst slowing you. Along with the fact you can't flank her and she will always have ult for anyone who rushes her due to her w giving her easy assists.
AP shaco: he literally just afk with boxes being the champion, but when he's the enemies your team forget he exist and will walk into every box and make every clone blow up on you. Also because it's aram you're stuck having to go through his boxes because there is only 1 lane
maokai: half the game is played around 2 bushes and there is a bush right next to your tower if you're pushed in so 30% hp per SAPLING
kayle: whilst games are shorter within the last 40 of my aram games only 5 have ended b4 level 18, so ye ending quickly in aram to stop kayle is rare, so it's either body the enemy team or you're at a 80% chance of losing. it's annoying to fight the clock more than the enemy team.
Kat: Divine sundere, death dance, titanic is still the kat build in aram and it's just stupid
Yuumi: designated healers are just annoying in general and i think yuumi is just the prime example, 2 healer comps are just kinda an auto loss with how weak anti-heal is.
Soraka: same reasons as yuumi really she's just the second worst, plus she gets warmogs so she's actually hard to kill.
LB: i just really hate fighting her: she's hyper mobile so bruisers can't get her, she's high burst so damage dps get 1 shot with her not putting herself in real danger, and her passive makes bursting her practically impossible because she goes invisible long enough for her to get over the shock of being jumped.
Lulu: i don't like polymorph.
honourable mentions: cass: same as video, yone: same as video, quinn: e q sucks for melee champs, nidalee: aram spear spam, Zoe: Zoe, and finally aphelios: i still don't quite understand what he does because adc is the least appeal champ type to me, he's either just eating dirt in the background or is a god and i never know why.
shaco's deceive was designed when pink wards revealed all stealth units. it was a form of counterplay in early league. when they removed that they gave him his largest buff in all of his history
He's still not really that good. Just more annoying
Shaco is one of my most played champs and ap shaco is some of the funniest games I've ever had. They hate me so much
The literally only one champ I don't agree with is Gankplank. He requires his player to have at least chimp-sized brain to play, while Yuumi or Yone can literally push random buttons and do okay.
Fiora and Yone should be removed to assist in making their players’ ELO’s more accurate
Kayn
Yuumi is worth 25% while attached, 10% while not. Problem is there is no incentive to detach and no downtime from being attached.
1. Senna: too much damage and cc
2. Vayne: true damage on a machine gun adc
3. Fizz: E
4. Vladimir: Untargetable, one shots you late game, infinite sustain
5. Yuumi: just an item
6. Shaco: Q, W and ult
7. Akali: dashes everywhere and becomes invisible
8. Akshan: cringe revive
9. Master Yi: True damage on a machine gun that you can’t kite
10. Ashe: no one likes to play against a cringe ass ashe support with mandate
I feel like my list would basically end up being every champion that's been made going back to, but not including, Ornn with the exception of Neeko. All of them (besides Rell but that's a different problem) just feel overloaded because Riot feels the need to make new champions ever more ridiculous so people spend money to buy them on release and all their skins and it just feels so dumb. Sylas, Viego, Pyke, Senna and Yuumi especially. It's not like older champions aren't frustrating either. Shaco, Akali, Vayne and Kennen, amongst others, are also annoying as balls but I also don't feel like their champions are full to the brim with some kind of power/feature creep as the recent champs do and I wish Riot would u-turn on this philosophy change.
New champion q be like
Slows
Speeds up
Dmg buff
Dmg nerf
Deal true dmg
Negate true dmg
Dash away
Hook
If it hits reduces cd to 0 on r
Sucks you off
Pays your bills
Does your taxes
Revive team
Kill your team.
P.S: i may have exaggerated a bit.
For context, I was a midlane main who basically one-tricked Ahri between seasons 5-10 and mostly played burst or control mages. The worst of the bunch for me was honestly Lux, Yasuo, and Katarina. Fighting those matchups was genuinely unfun because of how little Ahri could do back then compared to them. Higher base damage, more mobility, and effectively a 'nono' zone I couldn't enter otherwise I'd be murdered.
I am still a ahri main. Wait till someone picks irelia or yone into you. Pre lvl 2 u can get some free auto attacks of but after that u really cant do shit.
Yone reaches 6? Gg u cant even cancel his damn ult with ur E.
Irelia clears entire wave and heals back to full hp so u cant roam or ur tower is gone.
Get to close to minions and irelia straight up dashes in you and ur dead.
I agree with almost the entire least. Let me explain.
-Camille
Being able to do a 1000 true damage with a regular ability is stupid. No interactive gameplay.
Having an ult that allows you to 1v1 duel an opponent is fine. However, not being able to Qss it is stupid. You are able to Qss Mordekaiser ult but not camille?
-Shaco
Having two get out of jail cards with his Ult and Q is stupid. Cannot punish.
Ult having AOE 3 second fear is stupid
Having an ability that does AOE fear is stupid.
This champion is stupid.
-Yuumi
Stupid.......
-Kayn
An ult that allows you to deal damage while the opponent can't. Very interactive.
An E ability that allows you to heal on entry and gaining extra movement speed in blue form and being able to pass through terrain that other champions can't.
-Gangplank
Has a free QSS in the kit. Why?
An ult that provides pressure everywhere on the map even though he is not in the fight.
Barrels that can zone unless you're playing ranged. Even ranged is hard.
-Leblanc
I agree with some of what Vars said, HOWEVER, Leblanc can't really function if she is behind. She relies on kills soooooooooooooooo. She is annoying tho.
-Cassiopeia
Has an ability that denies movement. WOW so cool!
Ult is just annoying.
-Akshan
WHY IS HE ALLOWED TO BRING PEOPLE BACK FROM THE DEAD!
Passive syngergies very well with PTA and Kraken which makes it very hard to trade with. However, I will say that the passive is fine. There are ways to work around it.
-Yone
Having practically a BOTRK passive on his E is kinda meh.
Has huge comeback potential when most champions don't. Being able to 1v9 after a kill is not fun.
Hard to punish even when behind
-Kennen
Has 6000 stuns and is ranged...
Do I have to say more?
Tbh i would just eliminate Vayne, in the toplane she can basically dominate early game with her poke and at the same time being a good scaling hypercarry that whipes your team as long as the game progresses..
Akshan's downside to attacking twice is that his attack speed ratio is 0.4 as opposed to the usual 0.6. He would be fine if the second shot's damage reduction also affected on-hits since at that point his damage output would be no different from a regular champ's. Still his revive is game breaking in the sense that it turns the game on it's head and throws out all the normal rules. Kill 3 people but you die? that wasn't a good trade because now Akshan revived them and your team has to fight 4v5 while missing the person that could 3v1.
But also: how the fuck are vayne and fiora not there? I do not care how weak they are, %max health true damage should never exist. ESPECIALLY not to the ridiculous degree that those two have, and then they get some of the craziest abilities for their class on top of that with CC block and full immunity that stuns, and the strongest peel I can think of on an ADC, and both of them have low cooldown dashes as if they weren't given enough tools to fuck you over. If you're playing a tank, you're not playing today
I genuinely wouldn't hate Vayne as much if those fucking no life losers stopped taking her top
Indeed, each time they first pick garen or cho its vayne time xd
@@alessgr9394 Translation: I want to tank bust but I'm too garbage at the game to play Fiora
I actually ban yone in every game since his release. (there was a period when I banned Seraphine, but came back to yone)
It's nice to hear that others are yone haters too. Other champions that I would delete: Sylas, Akshan, Pyke, and Seraphine.
The before 6 trades and w healing on sylas is such bs.
Yone is actually fun to fight imo. I love seeing one
Honestly' My list of Removable's would be:
Teemo, Bard, Yummi, Camile, Shaco, Master Yi, Dr.Mundo(the rework), Graves, Gankplank, Talon
"Sion"
Teemo- Early free poke with poison and quickly win games on shroom. Just Toxic
(sidenote- ff before 15)
Shaco- He's a clown, literally the most toxic champ one can ever face. Even the players embodies him, smh.
Bard- Leaves ADC after 5mins, Like how is this champ consider a support when leaves losing all other lanes, let alone his own lane. Seriously, I deeply hate a Bard than a Shaco.
Camile- Imagine giving divers free options to corner pressure top with no consequences, worst 2 kills and can now 1 v 3 the enemy in 7mins. Let's ff already. Lane bullies Queen
Dr. Mundo- Just alittle more cancer to deal with than Morde, Why did riot choose to give his basic ability's a chunk ton of dmg on lvl 1. Just nerf him already.
Graves- Possibly every jungler's worst match-up, 2 words: "Smoke-screen". It's the same reason why players hate Akali, just stop giving certain champs easy outs.
Talon- Kinda similar to Graves, easy outs. What's worst however, When talon wall jumps, it gets free reset as many times as possible. Meaning, a 0 cooldown ability with prehaps no mana cost. U can't make this shit up.
Master Yi- Same with Camile, can 1 v 3 the enemy team under 10mins after the first 2 kills. Debatable if this champ is worst than Camile or not.
Yuumi- Everyone reading this, We all know. Let's just grab popcorn and bench-watch some shows on Netflix or something. The Easiest champ Riot has made with no new future nerfs.
Originally, I thought Gangplank as toxic/ bannable champ bc the crazy amoutnt of control he holds at all time, but no, they're is one champ that does this list justice on how stupidly ridiculous it does it's role in the whole entirely of League of Legends.
Instead of Gangplank, meet Sion- Int all game and still hold more pressure & impact on the game than most champs of the whole league rooster. Win by losing, just wow.
Not to far off with you're list, Vars. Kinda the same issues each of the picks hzve that Riot may have intentional made & ignored.
Honestly, no one.
the busted 1v9 champs may ruin the game at some times, but equally, being in a good position, and being able to yell HAHAHAH I KILLED HIM AGAIN, to one of those, is an amazing feeling and makes league what it is today
am i saying these champs should be in the game? no, probably should be balanced. But it is what it is and makes the game so much more dynamic (even if in a bad way, lol)
For me it's Master Yi. I feel like this champ does require no skill at all to run down your enemies. One argument a lot of ppl use is "just cc him and he is useless". Well find that coordination in low elo.
11:25 i love his argument, "yone is not strong because he has counters" even then the ones he mentioned that counter him are like only 4% of leagues 150+ cast
edit: i also love how he won 4600 of all 5000 match played with yone and still argues he's not broken
He is probably in panic that Riot decides to nerf him.
Champs I hate in no particular order:
Tryndamere - Too easy to get out of bad situations / decisions. Press E every 3 seconds to disengage or engage at will.
Lillia - Too hard to catch when she makes a bad decision
Talon - Press E to traverse the whole fucking map and engage / disengage with minimal risk.
I play a lot of divers so I have to be smart about when and how I engage. Champs that can just always get out of a bad situation piss me off royally.
Since i otp singed this is my list.
1.Camille - stated in video
2. Darius - just an actual stupid champ especially if they go flash ghost, can pull you from under tower, him building tanky and still being mobile, that dumbass bleed.
3. Shen - dude can literally build one item and be tanky as fuck to to mention his q w and passive being a little bit stupud at times.( rather a nerf but definitely had games where i wanted him deleted)
4. Tryndamere - i really dont feel like i need to explain.
5. Gp - his crit build is actually dumb like, laning against him is literally getting q'd the whole time, if you try to proxy he can clear wave with 1-2 barrels.
6. Yorick - kinda like gp laning is just getting Qd and taking too much dmg from his ghouls, plus he clears waves fast af when u try to proxy.
7. Karma - her ms, root and slow are so fucking rediculous not to mention on top of her healing and shielding, so hard to close on her or her team.
8. Mundo - quite literally just counters singed plus has a free get out of jail free card with his passive.
9. And 10. - idk atleast for rn probably a support or mid laner that has too much shit in their kit or main build that is just toxic gameplay.
your voice is so soothing
My toughts on the list, agree to disagree
1. Shaco - Disagree, Shaco is a elo terrorrist in low elo but can easily fall behind and be useless for example, you can just go and clear his boxes before the camps spawns which will effect his clear significantly. I agree he can be annoying, but he is not unhealthy for the game with his playstyle it's very aggresive and can be extremly unfun sometimes to play against but so is it with very many champions who has aggresive playstyles like a katarina or a kindred.
2. Camille - Disagree, You can't remove Camille if Fiora is still in the game with her current design, if camille dives in Camille can't get out Fiora can on the other hand. They have about the same playstyle but fiora is just worse from everyone you can't just kite a Fiora or a Camille, but you can get away from Camille which significantly easier than getting away from a Fiora. They both have the same main weakness which is waveclear but Fioras kit compensates more for her weakness while camilles kit doesn't really compensate for her weakness. And also PERCENT HEALTH TRUE DMG!!!!!!!!
3. Yummi - i pretty much agree
4. Kayn - I agree
5. Gangplank - HOLY SHIT THIS CHAMP IS ON CRACK. But on a real note i think his kit is really interesting but how he needs a big rework for his dmg and how he builds, a bruiser shouldn't be able to build bruiser, crit and lethality
6. Leblanc - I see you just met a smurf leblanc otp last game (disagree)
7. Cassopeia - Disagree, Extremly annyoing if you get counterpicked but such a dog champion in general. Her range is too small to be usefull as a control mage and most champions in the meta right now can just kite her for example zeri and most adcs atm. And her whole kit is based around her hitting a target with q which most champions shouldn't have a problem with
8. Askhan - I agree
9. Yone - "Tell me you're bronze without telling me you're bronze" (obv disagree) Your argument for yone being a slayer x factor as you put it can't really work By your own standards. Diana would be considerd a x factor slayer champion and also a ap champion which is more usefull and she has more with more synergy with ohter champions. Yone in general has no x factor really his ult does no real dmg and hardly hits 5 people, If it hits 5 then its the enemy team being mispositioned, all of the adcs has a way of dodging his ult, most can by gale force. If you go yone top as im assuming you're talking about you ussually offer a tank /brusier by going yone top but even if he is mid your team gets very limited mostly because you're most of the time going to end up with full ad (if you go yone mid) or no tank/brusier (if you go yone top which is in it self a high risk mid reward as you say yone doesn't have.
10 Kennen - Mad :tf:
In genral this list is more appealing to the lower elo audience with champions like Shaco, Leblanc, Camille and Yone. But if you in higher elo this list dosen't make sense.
"Tell me you're assassin main without telling me you're one"
@@zeppelincraft1443 Lmao nah man i'm a top lane main sadly
As a Yone onetrick, I was forced to learn a secondary character bc every single game my character gets banned😭
4:35 nonononono. Yuumi decreases pressure for the crucial first 15 minutes of the game.
Also Yone would actually be a feast or famine champ if they removed the crit from his passive.
The passive is the reason he is feast or famine, it locks your build to crit so if you lose early, you can't build defense without being useless, and if you win early, you get a big powerspike with 100 crit.
@@yaman9463 "It locks your build to crit"
We ignoring that Yone top mains rush botrk rn?
Big agree on all of the list WITH THE EXCEPTION of Gangplank. I like playing both as him and against him, he's very fair and open about what he does and ends up being a pure skillcheck - either you outtime him with the barrel hit and he has no combo for the next 30 seconds, or you get outtimed and lose half your health as punishment. Harsh, but avoidable. He doesn't really have bullshit gotchas, he's like Azir, just very honest but skilled gameplay. Each time I lose against Gangplank, I can tell exactly what I did wrong to deserve that.
Hard agree with this take.
As an adc main, my personal must ban nowadays is Miss Fortune. Until her E gets changed to not be a free no participation poke that cannot be avoided or dealt with whatsoever, she is absolutely awful, the only counterplay is to have a dash to get in on her and kill her but earlygame good fucking luck with STRUT MOVESPEED also, it's a bot laner, they have a support there. MF can just take arcane comet and spam her E with no consequence slowing you for a massive ammount and possibly build AP so you get hit by a lane covering aoe slow that deals magic damage and slowly KILLS you. Absolutely stupid, this would get irritating in ANY lane, see the problem is that it's so big AND has good range to it so it's a very easy poke to center on your target so they take most if not ALL the damage, and it;s a good way to allow allies to come in and capitalize on it, it's good for kite and chase and just shuts down anyone who isn't a dashing assassin about to gut her in two abilities. And even then if she's ahead, she can build Lethality and BECOME the assassin by hitting Q and autoing a few times with strut attack speed bonus to kill the assassin instead! Miss Fortune is by far one of the most unfun bot laners that you legit need to team up against just to have a good lane phase.
I think kayn would be fine if it wasnt for blue form. Red form was also kind of toxic last season, but that was due to the eclipse into lethality itemization that made him a oneshot assasin. Bruiser red kayn on paper is totally fine and just another flavor of statcheck skirmisher imo.
1-2) The 0/10 powerspike brothers: It's pretty dumb to try to explain it, everybody knows why are they hated.
3) Fiora: I hate bruisers in general, but the fact that you can't lane aginst her bc she deals dmg based on max hp it's so fun. Even if you are lucky, and the Fiora player is dumb enough to lose lane against you, DOESN'T MATTER, she scales so hard and her powerspike comes after 2-3 items. You blink and she heals 2K hp in 3 aa to different marks and oneshot any champ, adc, tank, mage, doesn't matter, bc the only way to "dodge" her aa on her passive is hugging a wall crippling yourself and being forced to 1v1 her.
4-5) Lb and Qiyana: Assassins with too much capability to fool around with ppl. Honestly, you cant play against Qiyana in the jg, she spams her brush Q and throw all her cds at you, if you manage to survive, she repeats the process and you're f*cked, bc you can't escape from a champ that has 2 dashes (3 with prowlers claw, aka: Qiyana's core item and powerspike).
6) Aphelios: Simple, he gets 2 items, gets infernum + chakram and you have to fear his R like a Corki's package, but this one oneshots everyone. But that's in the case the Aphelios player has braincells, he doesn't need them anyway, just smash the keyboard as hard as possible and you take 2 ppl with you at least.
7) Kayn: XD
8) Sion: This is actually one of the champs I main, and got me out of bronze when I started playing 4-5 years ago. I still like him but in his current state it's kinda dumb. You can do 1 of 2 things in games: A) Int and splitpush, as long as you get waves and farm you get extra max hp and become a pain in the butt to the enemy team. B) Build full tank and ult in the middle of the Tf, if you hit the adc/control mage/any champ that's a little squishy, and you oneshot him; Full cc chain with a butt-ton of base dmg on the (R-W during charge-R detonation before it hits-E-Q-W detonation during q charge-Q detonation) combo. It's pretty "weak" in the season 12 meta (so far), but his kit and playstyle is kinda... wierd? I mean, Karthus also revives for a certain amount of time, but he can't move. Sion is better dead than alive sometimes.
9) Riven: Idk her weakness and neither her onetricks (they'll probably say the easy stuff like Garen, Malph and Renek, bc they hate playing pasive), nobody. A lane bully with 4 dashes (3 in a basic abillity and the 4th has a shield), knock up, aoe dmg, cc and execution (dmg based on missing hp R2), empowered aa each time she use and ability and activating her R1 give her extra ad (bc why not), one of the first champs with an overloaded kit ever. But wait, there's more, she shines in mid game and has a wonderful late, the more cdr + ad the better she gets. Did I mention she can ALSO jump over walls on top of all her kit?
10) Bel'veth: Yi and Irellia had a daughter and she's from the void. She has the whole pack: Infinite scaling true dmg, stacking attack speed, dmg reduction, a Rhaast W but bigger and faster, 4 dashes that can be reset, capability to stack more attack speed than any adc by like 2x-3x, her ult gives her more max hp, more dmg, and for some reason she can also spawn voidlings like Malzahar (why not?). Her E not only gives her dmg reduction, but she also get on hit effects on every aa she hits. It's a joke of a champ.