From years of undercover work for [redacted] I can guarantee that [redacted] was the killer aided and abetted by [redacted]. I hope that clears it up for everyone.
Well, there might be references to fx. intelligence sources, who are still alive and must be protected. But they should be able to redact those name and other identifying description. I certainly dont think, that theres any reason not to release the vast majority with just the parts about sources, that must still be protected, and possible info, that might compromise other cases, things like that redacted.
Let's say there was a young CIA agent somehow named in secret reports that were never released. Let's say he was 22 in 1963. He would now be 80 years old and the release of these reports, even if redacted, could, by inference perhaps, jeopardize his identity.
They just show them a copy of the Zapruder Film...and not the tampered with version that is shown to the public now, but the CIA’s unaltered version of the film
@@roberthussey595 Bill Hicks put it this way. "Whoever’s elected president… when you win, you go into this smoky room with the twelve industrialists capitalists scum-fucks who got you in there. And a big guy with a cigar goes: ‘Roll the film.’ And it’s a shot of the Kennedy Assassination from an angle you’ve never seen before. It looks suspiciously off the grassy knoll. Then the screen comes up, and they go to the new president: ‘Any questions?’” "Er, just what my agenda is."
Not odd at all. It seems that EVERY PERSON who got the full picture thinks that these informations should not be made public. And if you come with: "Well, what´s the damage?" Some information are not supposed to get to the public. You saw the same thing with the NSA scandal. You had a NSA agent. Top journalist from one of the biggest newspapers BUT STILL they fucked up the publeshing and information about the war efforts against ISIS were leaked. Having said that i do think that Snowden did the right thing but stop just assuming the worst freaking szenario with zero evidence behind it. That is conspiricy thinking the same way like people who think corona is a hoax, and the election was a fraud....
This is pretty wholesome. I like the dynamic between young political pundit and quick thinker David Pakman and the sweet older Jefferson. Both of them care about facts, discussing possibilities but not jumping to conclusions. It is interesting to see the sharp minded man in his early 30s having an inter-generational bonding over intellectual analysis of the assassination of JFK. They are sweet and because I like that here I go.
Next time you have him (or any assassination buff) on: 1) Please ask him directly about the assassination itself. Does he think LHO was the sole shooter? Does he think LHO shot Officer Tippett? Does he agree that LHO tried to assassinate Major Gen. Walker earlier in 1963? As much as possible, find out what he believes are FACTS surrounding Oswald, Oswald's rifle, and Oswald's actions on 11/22/63. THEN you can ask him to speculate about what information could lie within the files. 2) Please insist that he connect his computer to the modem with a cable rather than relying on wifi.
I agree with your comment. Here's my take.. Unlikely he was sole shooter.. likely he shot Tippet.. not sure about Gen. Walker.. it probably was Oswald's rifle ordered under an alias he was known to use.. Oswald was probably on the 6th floor either assisting or shooting. Considering Oswald had connections to virtually every shady organisation in the country I'd say it was obvious why everyone would want it covered up to either protect themselves or stop them from being exposed as completely incompetent after the fact. I presume any incriminating evidence involving specific individuals is long gone.
@@kellykeefe3610 I don't have fixed ideas on JFK's killing, but I've learned enough, in my 69 yrs, to know that the official report is often correct. Not always, .....but a lot better than 50%.
I think it is warranted to be suspicious of incomplete records for a crime 57 years later. I am however more inclined to suspect "criminal" incompetence from the Secret Service as cause. But if we don't know, we don't know
Yeah, to be honest this is my suspicion too. I suspect what's being covered up is fuckups, not dark deeds. They all knew about Oswald but for some reason they weren't watching him close enough, and that's the sort of thing that could get some very important people in a lot of trouble and more broadly make the organisation look very bad.
@@CLaw-tb5gg Yeah, I have also heard speculations that a weapon from the secret service accidentally went off in the confusion and that that was the bullet that "sealed the deal" This accusation was never dealt with (other than verbal denial). If true, it would be understandable that they would "cover it up". After all ... it would have been too FUBAR to deal with. And the longer you wait ... But that IS speculation, of course (but it definitely would have been an understandable "cover up")
@@busylivingnotdying That's the problem with this topic. Everyone has an opinion on it, people who know nothing about the case, people who have seriously read nothing, people who don't know the difference between William Harvey, Lee Harvey Oswald, and Victor Oswald. Yet they bleat and opine as if they have a sense. "Cover up incompetence." Only someone who knows nothing about this case would believe such drool, yet here are a bunch of time-wasters clogging up web space. And that SS man accidentally firing his weapon?? Get lost and go post over on Reddit.
@@bones007able Yeah, and the size of the hole in the back of his head (too small for that fellow up in the window's weapon. And the angle is supposed to be wrong for that (it went in at the base of the skull and out at the top-front indicating it came from "below", not above. Still though, it's only speculation and would be VERY hurtful (for the agent) if wrong, so ...
There are over 60 million Americans right now who can’t understand how elections work. How can they be expected to grasp the reality of JFKs murderers?
“JFK Revisited: Through the Looking Glass” from Oliver Stone was absolutely eye opening and seems to already connect the dots pretty well. Worth the watch.
@@peterstafford4426 check out the book False Witness which tells the real story about Jim Garrison and the Clay Shaw trial. Garrison's case revolved around the fact that Shaw was gay and the assassination was a "homosexual thrill killing "
Right, especially when the worst interruptions kept happening whenever Morley got to the juiciest part. Those could have been "random" interruptions, but if so, they came at the worst possible time in the interview.
I'm old enough to remember when Oswald screamed when they dragged him to jail that he was a patsy I knew something was up. A Patsy is a person who is easily manipulated or victimized....before Ruby shot him.... to shut him up?
We must be near the same age. I was 15 and remember that vividly. Back in the early 2000s a man named Michael Hasty (If I recall correctly) pinned an online article entitled "Paranoid Shift." It's worth looking for if you can find it. Suffice it to say, the JFK assassination was the beginning of mine, and Oswald was neither the last or most recent patsy.
The part that doesn't make sense is the fact he used a very cheap rifle. If he was a part of a hit team, he would have at least had a half decent rifle. In the JFK movie, they made out like Oswald wasn't much of a shot, but he had achieved rifleman level, which I think was higher than marksman status. Oswald was a very good shot.
@@michaelwells6075 Thank you for this! I read the comments to find connections like you've provided. I don't find many but yours is a gold mine. I am very grateful to you.
He may have been one of the shooters but it seems doubtful after an expert removed color from zapruder to analyze it in b+w and said no shots came from the book building or at least none that hit the motorcade . But h howard hunt admitted to being part of the assassination and said it was called the big event. He was probably the grassy knoll gunman
@@adamjg4 I assume you're being ironic/sarcastic (i.e. snarky) when you write that. Those were some of the most atypical and extreme distortions I've seen in recent years. Jamming is a very plausible possibility.
@@tjmc1378 Absolutely agree. While we can't prove this was done intentionally, the most extreme distortions in the signal came just as he was making the most important points, just when someone with a motive would have wanted to jam the signal the most.
We even know the name of his U.S. minder. George de Mohrenschildt. And we have some idea of that man's role in framing Oswald. And we have some details of Johnson's involvement in the plan. But if all we listen to is this video none of that will enter our understanding. Oh yeah, i almost forgot: George de Mohrenschildt was killed by a shotgun blast to his head, inside his library. The weapon was left in his hands as if to suggest he elected to commit suicide with a shotgun. Oh yeah: this happened during a break in the middle of a tell-all interview that de Mohrenschildt was giving to.... a JFK conspiracy researcher. He wrote it all up in the book he was working on at that time. So much for calling the conspiracy a "theory".
The fact that he wasn't taken off the plane in handcuffs upon his return is telling. An ex-Marine too. Where was the show trial? The Bircher hand-wringing? Very suspicious.
@@bob7975 Thank you.... you are one of the few who gets it. And in about 10 years' time, if we don't manage to change something, finding anyone under the age of 45 who can even understand the meaning of that comment without having it explained will be almost impossible. I mean just consider that the host of this interview probably wouldn't even get it if he read it... and he's one of the best we got.
@@no_rubbernecking George as a boogie man is a stretch. He threw Oswald under the bus when he testified and I have never had anyone explain to my satisfaction what exactly George did to handle Oswald.
@@johncooper7663 Throwing him under the bus is what you'd expect a CIA agent who was helping to frame a patsy to do. I haven't seen the book in ages but it had been digitized and i'll see later if i can find it again and link to it. It's a mind-blowing read. He was gonna say more and then sometime between the end of that day's interview and the author's arrival at his house the next day, he was k----d.
So many second level questions that could be confirmed or denied with a simple direct question, and a simple direct response. Example: how did LHO get out of the Soviet Union so easily and quickly, and how and why was he so readily taken back and set up with a Russian support network? As a Marine did he really have access to classified information that would be useful to the Soviets? In Dallas that day, why would he go home to pick up his handgun instead of bringing it with him that morning? The pre, post, and during life story and actions and motivations of LHO have always confused me, and the story given does not line up with the way the world worked at the time.
I don't think LHO was so important, other than being the trigger man. Everything runs on money. Someone likely paid LHO to shoot the gun. We'll never know, because Ruby shot LHO before he could talk. If my scenario is correct, then Ruby was likely hired to off LHO, ...and Ruby is dead.
That’s a good point about why didn’t LHO bring the handgun to work with him that morning. And LHO leaving all the $ he had with Marina, along with his wedding ring in an antique cup on the dresser - he must’ve known he wasn’t coming back to Irving the evening of 11/22/63, saying in the Texas theatre - “it’s all over now” when the police accosted him. Aside from the terrible tragedy of JFK’s murder, the next worst thing was Ruby killing LHO to shut him up. And LHO saying, ‘I’m just a patsy.’
Well, he begged the state department to come home from Russia, actually.. Wrote some 20 letters over 24 months.. But why would you know that, you’re just repeating what you’ve heard.. lol..
I read a book years ago and I can't remember the book name or author I apologize. It went into the people behind his murder. CIA, FBI, Mafia, Israel, France. Oswald was a pawn used by the CIA as a scapegoat.
David Jennings - Of course Israel would be included. A conspiracy theory isn’t really a conspiracy theory if it doesn’t include Jews🙄. Also JFK’s papa was a notorious Jew Hater, maybe he and his followers were behind the Israel - well really the Jewish conspiracy thingy.🙄
@@chouloudemusilin I dont think they were going the anti semitic route or theyd have just left France out but it's an angle to consider about the original source for sure
@Skankhunt36 ... well that is where - on occasion- knowledge is ascertained... there have been more than 500 books written about this subject...anyone who only believes the government’s version of events is a fool
@@roberthussey595 I don't believe the government's narrative, I just believe a completely different chain of events than this person, because I read a different book.
Not much is hidden though. And nothing yet to be released will alter the information that has already been made public. It will not alter the fact that Oswald assassinated Kennedy.
@@NewNormalWorldOrder Dude, we can see blood coming out of his head via the bullethole in various footage. There is no way JFK survived a headshot. To the HEAD.
@@NewNormalWorldOrder "DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH, ME CALL OTHER CHANNELS BOTS WHEN THEY AREN'T, THAT MAKE ME SMART!" Also, are you seriously saying that something that people saw happen WITH THEIR OWN EYEBALLS didn't happen? I guess that means reality is fake, too, according to your so-called "lOgIc?
@@NewNormalWorldOrder to be fair, a film set where you can stop/resume in a closed set is VERY different from a public event being filmed live (and being watched by real spectators). Faking a headshot in that scenario would be impossible (unless of course every single person at the event was in on it). He’s dead.
On Thanksgiving 1978 I had dinner at the home a Special Agent of the FBI, at his farm in Maryland. The guy worked directly with Hoover. I asked him what he thought really happened to JFK. He lapsed into a tirade and called JFK a "fucking whore monger" and a "godamned communist". He said JFK and RFK got "what they deserved." The guy went off - his hatred for the Kennedy's was off the charts. For God's sake, the doctor's at Parkland ALL say that the autopsy photos presented to the Warren Commission must have been fakes, of one kind of another - they didn't vaguely resemble what they'd seen in the ER. And on the evening of the assassination, the Dallas DA gives a press conference. Somehow, a random strip club owner gets into this thing - when the DA says that Oswald was the head of the "Free Cuba Committee" Jack Ruby stands on a chair and corrects him, correctly stating that it was called the "Fair Play For Cuba Committee". And, recall, the Warren Commission found that Ruby didn't know Oswald, at all, and was not part of any conspiracy. WTF? How did this random bar owner (1) get into this thing, and, (2) how in the hell does Ruby know the name of this "committee" which Oswald never promoted in Dallas - there's no evidence that Oswald ever actually held a meeting of this thing. Ruby knows this completely oddball fact about the life of this guy he doesn't know at all. Okay. He's got to be in on the plot to frame Oswald - or he knows the guy really well....or something. People will believe anything. The CIA coined the term "conspiracy theory" to throw shade on people who asked legitimate questions. Of course it was a conspiracy - probably elements of the government, Texas oil men, the mob, and others who hated Kennedy for one reason or another. Oswald was used - and only a Kennedy hater or hyper-nationalist nut job couldn't look at the totality of the facts and pretend that there was no conspiracy. Ask every doctor from the Parkland ER and - to a man - they'll tell you the autopsy photos submitted to the Warren Commission were some kind of fakes.
i was born in Dallas in 63 , grew up fascinated by the whole assassination, gave tours in Dealey plaza for 3 years, stood in every possible area including climbing up on the same concrete stand that Zapruder filmed from, i believe that Oswald was incapable of carrying out such a sophisticated operation without some kind of help or guidance
Sophisticated? The president happened to drive by the place Oswald worked. After he shot JFK, Oswald ran downstairs and got on a bus. This is not James Bond quality espionage.
@@robertcatterall438 The official line is based on eyewitness testimony and forensics. If you put 5 conspiracy clowns in one room you would get 5 wildly different versions and after an hour they would be accusing each other or being a mole or a government plant. Guess what side I am on.
@@johncooper7663. It all depends which forensics you believe. There is 'forensic' analysis that a bullet in pristine condition just happened to be discovered at the scene. Believe that if you like, but it's an event never before in history, nor reproduced since.
It’s likely that if anyone had standing to appeal an FOI request for the documents discussed the appeal process would result in the CIA issuing a Glomar Denial - "We can neither confirm nor deny the existence of the information requested but, hypothetically, if such data were to exist, the subject matter would be classified, and could not be disclosed”
Sue who? The Justice Department, totally infiltrated by Trump appointed 'Nuttsi's', is pretty much useless if Garland can be used as an example, there's a documented criminal still wandering around freely dispensing of his lie based ideology to adoring fans on TV and the Internet and in his off time, playing/cheating at golf at his headquarters in Mar Lago Florida. So who do you sue? Who CAN you sue?
Everyone knows that there are decades old ties between Texas and the former Soviet Union. Just because the Soviet Union isn't on the map anymore doesn't mean the neighbors, families and political ties have changed. JFK prevented the Cuban missile crisis which was a Soviet attempt to launch missiles at American targets from Cuba. Admittedly, a large portion of the white population of Texas has a geniology linked to Czechoslovakian ancestry. Czechoslovakia was definitely a part of the former Soviet union. How many sleeper cell KGB agents could have been or may still be living under assumed American identities in Texas and other parts of the U.S.? If we still have citizens who sympathize with Nazi ideology, it's not a stretch of the imagination to think KGB and Lennon era Soviet sympathizers still exist.
I think you could be correct. But instead of bombs, they are using anti democracy tactics. Suppressing voting rights,women's right to choose, etc. I think the KGB is behind thR GOP and Qanon.
@@daghostxxx1797 July 4, 1776 We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness 1778 The First Treaty With The Delaware Indians 1782 Treaty Broken Pennsylvania militiamen killed nearly 100 Lenape (most of them women and children) at the village of Gnadenhutten in March 1782. The 15th amendment was passed 94 years after-- February 8, 1870 "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal" That 1630 sermon by John Winthrop is now famous mainly for its proclamation that we “shall be as a city upon a hill.” America Is A Christian Nation...really? A nation built on lies, shares commonality with And every one that hears these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. "A double minded man is unstable in all of his ways".
In thePlaza where JFK was assassinated, they have a museum set up in the book depository where the supposed shot was fired from. The window where Oswald was supposed to have fired from is set up to look exactly like it did on that day. it is called the Sniper's Nest, and the museum is called the Assassination Museum. The Sniper's Nest is a very accurate reconstruction. One of the main reasons it is so accurate is because Oswald isn't in it.
What are the odds of two brothers being assassinated in the same family? What are the odds of that assassination happening years apart? What are the odds that one was president and years later the other might be president? These brothers could win the Powerball with luck like that.
About two decades ago someone somewhere wrote: "The file will stay closed till 2050. Because by then all involved - including John & Jackie's children - will have passed on". So that's the "privacy" reason your vid is mentioning. At the time I expected that this would not keep the data a secret, it would leak. And that never happened. I also remember an interview in 1994 held by Robert Kiviat and Wim Dankbaar with a guy named James File aka James Sutton who said that HE was the Grassy Knoll shooter. He was in jail at that time, serving a 50 year conviction for attempted murder on two police officers, I never took that serious. But he was the first one who came forward with a "I did it" confession. James File is still alive, btw.
What are the facts of Oswalds backstory? Whe know he defected after leaving the military on pretty poor terms, he eventually got a Sovjet citizenship, married and was back in USA after 3 years, and that his life after that unraveled. It's a strange history considering the times, did he really do all this as a private citizen? And what about Jack Ruby, not only managing to get close and kill Oswald with a single shot, but he dies just 3 years later, conveniently loosing his mind after a vistit from "jolly" West of operation MK Ultra fame, it all sound like too many coincidences to be the full story.
Cameras at every turn in todays world, and politicians etc still get away with murder (literally and figuratively). Imagine 50+ years ago.. it’s amazing if we ever get an entire truth
Oswald was the guy who took the fall for the crime, he said he was a patsy. I believe Oswald was Intelligence. How much he knew about what was going to actually happen that day, I don't know, but I bet he wasn't a shooter. Once the President had been shot, I think he knew he'd been framed and that was why he ran. I don't believe he shot officer Tippit either. I hear a bunch of people saying that there was no way it could have been a conspiracy, that someone would have talked. A lot of people did talk, and they were either dead or threatened into silence soon after. I think Jack Ruby had terminal cancer and that's why he shot Oswald. I don't know what his connections were besides bribing local cops and in with gangsters in the area. Dead men tell no tales, right? The reason they wanted JFK dead isn't complicated. J. Edgar Hoover (FBI) hated the Kennedys with a passion. I was only eighteen months old when JFK was killed, so I have no direct knowledge of him as a President. What I know, I've read and seen. My impression has always been that he was very intelligent, thoughtful, courageous, logical, and had a will of steel. He understood what his job was and didn't tolerate nonsense. He was going to get us out of Vietnam. The first troops were coming home at Christmas. The military did NOT like that. Wars make money, which they felt was worth the loss of life they take. The bigger issue was that Kennedy believed the CIA had much more power than it should. He said he would shatter the CIA into a million pieces.
@@Tam5115 a bit of trivia: days prior to Ruby's famous gunshot, Robbie Robertson and his band (The Band) met Ruby at the nightclub he owned. Also, my dad was career CIA (came thru from OSS) and I never heard him voice an opinion of JFK's murder. However, my dad and I would have vigorous conversations about things like Iran-Contra - he being conservative and me being Liberal. Side note: from the late 50's through to early 70's, the CIA was essentially run by a hard core drunkard. Jim Angleton, after 5 martini lunches, would retire each night to drink, solo, a fifth of bourbon. His sidekick was ex-KGB Golytsin. The pair kneecapped the CIA for all those years. Even though they were the top CIA 'mole-killers' - they were possibly moles themselves. They ruined dozens of spy careers, and would sometimes send Soviet defectors back to the USSR to be shot. It's not dissimilar to Trump outing a US spy in Syria, when T invited the 2 top Russkie agents into the Oval Office (Feb. 2017). Only Russkie journalists allowed in to that meeting, ....no Americans.
There is good eye witness accounts of those employed by Kodak at the time that the Zapruder film was altered before it was ever shown to the public or anyone outside the alphabet agencies.
I know a lot of people think this guy is either a liar or nuts but I would encourage people to watch James Files JFK MOB Hitman. It's very long but also very interesting.
That's no joke. Cruz's father was part of that CIA plot to cause a stir in Louisiana. There is data that shows the CIA planned that event. Fair Play for Cuba committee.
If it’s a law that all the records be revealed, the appropriate legal challenge would be to file a motion for issuance of a Writ of Mandate by a court of competent jurisdiction commanding the relevant agency to carry out its duties under law.
No offense, but nothing was said or really revealed here. I found myself drifting out because all he was doing was rambling on and on with no substance. It quite frankly came off as if he just likes hearing himself talk.
If US history was longer, Americans wouldn't be so obsessed with a handful of spectacular events. Maybe Americans should focus on actual knowledge, e.g. things that are elevant for the whole planet, like its survival..... or common sense nation building and politics
...@@struthersboyz4990 Maybe focus on re-establishing trust in today's news. If one political side can just claim anything (i.e.. making things up...) without being contradicted, truths will no longer matter.
Wow! So your solution is what? Invent a time machine and break away from the British empire earlier….. then we would have a longer history? I actually lost 10 IQ points by reading your comment😜
He also did a very disingenuous shooting recreation to prove it was impossible to make the shots. Jesse was using a 50+ year old mannlicher carcano that clearly had been buried in dirt and hadn't been properly serviced in years. A shooter in 1963 would have gotten a new rifle that actually functioned properly. And of course there has been at least one recreation where a shooter was able to replicate the shots with a mannlicher carcano.
@@chouloudemusilin The EVIL bush families. The Pierce side too: barbara Pierce bush's mother: Pauline Pierce was a WELL Known Cultist / Socialite of the 1920s, until her death. She was a proud Satan Worshiper, and had to "tone it down" for the prescott bush Criminals!
@@dyronw.brodbeck I am not a fan of the Bush family. It is just that many conspiracy theories about JFK murder include the Mossad, Israel and Jews - and those conspiracy theories are full of Jew hatred.
I was on the ARRB staff and am familiar with the records that were not released in their entirety -- and I believe that they should now all be released in their entirety. However, it is important to note, that the ARRB released ALL information that it understood as being relevant to the assassination, including ALL records related to Lee Harvey Oswald. Any information about the CIA and Oswald has already been released. This is exactly the type of information that the ARRB prioritized in releasing.
If this is really you Mr. Gunn? Any and all records on the President’s murder should never have been held back for any reason. This was a murder, plain and simple. For records and files to have been hidden for 58 years speaks volumes as to what were they trying to hide. I know for a fact Mr. Gunn that records and files relating to JM-Wave and George Johannides are still being withheld. Am I really responding to the real Jeremy Gunn who worked with Douglas Horne?
@@davidpallin772 This was "a murder plain and simple" carried out by a single assassin. The hidden files trick will not salvage the lost cause of a JFK conspiracy.
@@ENDTIMEsVideoLibrary "END TIMES Trolling Library" is at it again. He's binged on assassination disinformation, and pinching it out as if it were truth.
@@stddisclaimer8020 Nice try but you Turn Coats are vastly outnumbered by those of us who don't sell ourselves out for treason. Thank you for playing.. Please drive through..
It a very interesting take on the movie "JFK". I always hated it for presenting "facts" that had long been debunked, like the silly "magic bullet" theory. I didn't know that Stone used the, "I did that on purpose" excuse. Clever.
I always had the impression that the provocative "interpretation" was designed specifically to trigger public speculation and demand for more clarity from the government. What I object to mostly about the film is how Stone weaved himself into Jim Garrison and idealized the character and presented that as fact. I think anyone watching the film would have a clear distinction of what was "speculation" and what was fact (as presented). Having said that, what Stone clearly argued for through his fictionalized Garrison, especially in that last court speech, is entirely legitimate and deserves praise. The public ought to know more of what the CIA and pentagon know. It's entirely in the public interest to uncover the classified files, and probably also very congruent with the goal of strengthening national security, instead of the opposite as the CIA claims.
? The magic bullet is the official version. One bullet hit both Kennedy and Connally. It has never been categorically debunked. I am skeptical about one bullet following that trajectory and doing that much damage but I am far from an expert.
@@KenS1267 The "magic" part has been debunked. When that shot was fired, Connally had turned in his seat; he was in a contorted position. The bullet went straight.
@@KenS1267 that bullet that came out of the gun in Baldwins hand went through two people and possibly could have wounded a third person if one had been in line.
@@gplito There's a major difference between penetrating soft tissue and penetrating many different bones. The magic bullet broke I do not even remember how many bones in both the Governor and President. Without changing its trajectory or being noticeably damaged. I do know that as a lifelong hunter with a 7.62mm rifle at ranges not unlike that under discussion a single rib is enough to make a clean kill shot to the heart challenging on a deer and the better shot is through the spaces, if the animal is standing still, or from the forward oblique angle in front of the ribs. That still doesn't make the shot impossible just raises doubts, as it has for many people.
JFK and the Unspeakable - why he died and why it matters - is one of the best books on the assassination...two other books are Dr Mary’s Monkey by Edward Haslam and Me & Lee - How I came to know, love, and lose Lee Harvey Oswald by Judyth Baker and you’ll see why Lee was chosen to be the patsy...Dr. Mary’s Monkey is not even a book about the assassination itself but you will see why the government wanted to keep it secret...especially anything pertaining to Lee Oswald’s past. Because some things may be more sinister than the assassination itself...
Please David do not start covering conspiracy theories because I will not watch those broadcasts - that’s my view , you can do whatever you want with your channel of course.
He's been on the downward spiral for months. I stopped watching regularly when he proclaimed that democrats should kill the spending bill because it isn't as big as he wanted.
I was 12 years in the Secret Service your uniform division. I wrote two books crisis of character and secrets of the Secret Service. I believe Oswald's first shot hit the ground, about the same time in the follow-up limo a Secret Service agent picked up M-16, oswalt's second shot strikes the president in the back of the neck. In the follow-up car the agent loses his balance has his finger on the trigger accidentally fires off around Street Hoover the windshield of his car striking the president in the back of the head. As more time goes by and POTUS after POTUS. Refuses to release all information I feel this is a very likely scenario. Also years ago a book was written about this scenario in that theory was ballistically proven. When I wrote secrets of the Secret Service, I set aside the conspiracy theories and my bias both pro and con for the Secret Service and looked at what I experienced and what I researched. If you see the Secret Service as the superhumans, you're mistaken. We started out as good men and women doing a very important job. The Secret Service as all of the issues of Any Government agency, the Postal Service, the IRS. And my time there're want the most hostile management systems to work for, into appox 2014, out of 305 Government agencies the Secret Service morale was 305, they were more unhappy thank corrections officers working in the maximum security prison Full of the most heinous human behavior known to man. Also the guest left out that in the early 90s when Congress looked at the JFK assassination, the Secret Service had to publicly admit they have destroyed all the records of the motorcade and thir behavior relating to JFK. Respectfully Gary
That is not what happened and were you in the secret service you would know better. George Hickey never pulled the trigger, something far worse occurred.
They are not assassination files -- they are accidental homicide files. They are not released (1) because Agent Hickey accidentally shot jfk, (2) because Agent Hill is still alive. Hickey's Colt Armalite AR15 01 we now know didn’t have a BURST mode, it had an AUTO mode. And we can be fairly certain that agent Hickey accidentally fired an auto burst of at least 4 shots, probably 5, possibly 6. Here is my 6-shot scenario & timeline. The AR15 01 probly fired at 400 rpm. Shot-6 is the last shot, the JFK headshot (at Zapruder frame Z313). The remnant slug exits & cracks the windshield just left of the mirror. Anyhow, whether JFK was hit by Shot-6 or Shot-5 or Shot-4, it was the last shot that hit him - as the AR15 was falling - ie as agent Hickey was falling forward. Hickey was in the process of standing up to turn around to find a target near the TSBD, when the Queen Mary (the followup limo) braked, Hickey falling forward onto O'Donnell sitting in the jumpseat. Shot-5 puts a dent in the chrome trim above & right of the mirror. Fragments dent the back of the mirror. Shot-4 goes over the windshield & hits the tarmac of Elm St. Shot-3 goes over the windshield & hits the concrete curb. Shot-2 goes over the windshield & hits grass. Shot-1 goes over the windshield & hits the tarmac of Main St & ricochets onto the curb 23'4" from the pier, near Tague. Tague's left cheek is stung & bloodied by a fragment of lead from Shot-1. The 52 grain deformed remnant of what is probly the 55 grain slug from shot-1 or one of the later shots is found buried on top of the triple underpass by Lester using a detector in 1974.
Pakman, for the love of God, if you talk about the Kennedy Assassination again please do your research prior to the event. If you really believe it was mere incompetence, then you may as well just quit right now. 60 years later hiding stuff due to mere incompetence. Give me a break
@@chouloudemusilin - It is ALL connected. Lee Harvey Oswald probably would have talked about what was entailed, so Jack Ruby, also known by the Criminals of the CIA, needed to STOP Oswald.
When being transferred inside the Dallas jail, Oswald looked at a camera and said " I'm the patsy. " An assassin would never say that. He is proud of his actions.
But an assassin would attempt to lay the groundwork for a defense by saying…”they have taken me in because I lived in the Soviet Union… I’m just a patsy”… Which is an actual direct quote, not conveniently edited to change the context.. He’s clearly saying he’s a convenient arrest because he was a defector.. Not that he’s a fall guy for a conspiracy.. Context is important, which is why YOU SHOULDNT EDIT IT!..
David is being presented with an expert who is substantially more informed on this subject than he is. Nonetheless, he insists on clinging to this idea that it is impossible that the CIA was in any way operationally responsible for the Kennedy assassination. This is incredibly narrow thinking considering all the information that's come out over the past decades. Seems to me that someone is a very dedicated member of the establishment.
I just wanna make sure we’re talking about the same CIA, here.. The same CIA that missed 9/11?.. That missed 100K Soviet troops amassing on the Afghan border?.. lol.. That same CIA that screwed up the Bay of Pigs, Iran, missed Soviet missile being I Ported tithe island until they were almost operational?.. The same CIA that learned about the Berlin Wall coming down from a local Berlin newscast, just like everyone else?!.. LMAO!.. The same CIA that was in an agency civil war for 15 years, from 1964-1978?.. Is that the CIA you believe did this operation?.. In America, where they have no charter and no network of spies to use?.. Because if it is, all I can do is just laugh at you.. Smh..
@@jacobjones5269 I promise you that the cia did not "miss" 911. Some ultra covert compartment made up of saudi intelligence, mossad, agency and god knows who else pulled it off in the first place. Oswald was an agency asset. I realize you are far too comfortable in your cozy POV to consider these possibilities.
@@SpaceyMonkey75 It has nothing to do with being comfortable, and everything to do with the evidence.. The guy was a textbook crackpot, who was totally unreliable as an asset..
If Edward Snowden's description of the 'culture' in the secret services is anywhere near accurate, their incompetence could offer a very plausible reason for not publicizing some embarassing information, as the incompetence may well have been present even in Kennedy's days. It's also very likely Kennedy would have stopped wasting government money on the agencies for that reason. Failing to stop a guy like Oswald from killing JFK - for a failure it was - could have been inspired by more than one reason.
@@GiacomodellaSvezia I don’t need to. He is a criminal who ran with files and secrets through Hong Kong to Russia. He made a lot of noise about gov surveillance on the way out to cover the fact that those files were 1/100th part of all of the secret files he stole and gave to Russia. Anyone who believes he is a patriot, or that he is knowledgeable about anything other than theft and defecting to Russia, is naive
@@GiacomodellaSvezia to those like you who are willfully obtuse, sure. To anyone with any *actual* knowledge of what happened, without Glenn Greenwald’s treasonous spin, absolutely and positively true. All of it. Get a clue
I read through a lot of, but not all of the comments and some reply's and no one seems to have touched on one of the possible conspiracy theories relating to both the reason for the assassination and those responsible. The fact that both recent and current Presidents have chosen not to release the full files imo is telling in and of itself of a deep secret coverup because imo such a release would not only reveal this was an inside job, but it more importantly it would disclose the reason behind it, which again imo is not a false attack to justify a military response in order to liberate Cuba, but rather world changing revelation that the CIA learned the president was about to publicly disclose the existence of, and covert military involvement with, advanced intelligent life forms not born of this earth, aka "aliens" and the alien presence on this planet. I have no proof of this, merely speculation based on conspiracy theories in the ufo community that I find more credible than any other theory as to the reason behind the murder, no other reason comes close to justifying this extreme act of violence against such a well liked president who oddly enough is credited with the start of the space race program that led to our landing on the moon. That's a secret they can't ever tell, sadly if true.
It was almost 60 years ago. Until somebody can produce concrete evidence (which I doubt they can) proving otherwise, I will still believe Oswald acted alone.
@@speck343 Gov. John Connelly (also shot, but survived) saw the film JFK in 1991. He said it was a great film, but total fiction. Interesting that with all the people supposedly shooting at JFK, the only bullets (and fragments) all were ballistically matched to Oswald’s cheap Italian carbine.
If it wasn't for one home movie n it was used in movie JFK lone gunman theory might cut it. Laws of physics being applied makes any reasonable person think . also Robert Kennedy was removed from his position as attorney general n handful of top mafia men got off the hook because of it then Robert was killed on his way to becoming President . Jack Ruby had wanted to make a statement before he died in prison but for some reason some one put a stop to that . Seems the rabbit hole is bottomless .
@@garyferguson1105 u should ask how many shots were fired n how many bullets were retrieved . the way 1 bullet was found is very suspicious look that up .
No, it doesn't make me wonder. There is information in those reports which is still relevant to how the FBI conducts investigations against criminal and terrorist activity. The FBI isn't going to tell people how they can circumvent routine investigative routines to conduct criminal activity or attacks on our nation.
Even when all the people involved in this will have died from old age, we won't know the truth. You would think that someone would talk from their death bed, having nothing to lose, but it seems this will not happen.
They still teach Oswald as a crazy lone assassin in history classes today with no mention of the 1979 House Select Committee On Assassination that said there was a good chance of conspiracy. The government can wait out people like me who were alive when JFK was murdered. E Howard Hunt said on his deathbed that he was one of the 3 tramps by the grassy knoll. Hunt also was a CIA operative. The crazy theory that the kill shot to the head came from behind because his head moved forward before violently moving back and to the left is bs. JFK had just been shot in his neck, his hands were being raised to his throat which would cause his head to move slightly forward before the kill shot from the front caused the head to move back and to the left. The Zapruder film shows the explosion of the President’s head occurred to the right front part of his head with brain and skull fragments exiting the back of his head. The President’s brain checked into the National Archives in a metal box would show the trajectory of the bullet and resolve the matter but disappeared when attempts were made to examine it. Not signed out. The metal box is still there but no brain. The brain was listed on the inventory list when put into the National Archives. Why get rid of the brain if the shot came from the back. You don’t get rid of evidence that proves you are right. You get rid of evidence that proves the trajectory came from the grassy knoll.
My sister's mother in law was working at book depository that day. She was questioned by FBI. Love this topic. To me the simplest explanation is most likely true. But, what is it? 🧐
I use occams razor all the time for so many situations but this is so complicated I'm not sure occams razor is something you can really fall back on here. If it was occams razor theyd have just released the records already because the simplest thing is some random guy killed the president. I doubt that's case with all the secrecy 60 years later. One of the few times where it's likely actually pretty complicated
Little known fact: Army Intelligence was in TX immediately after the shooting and recreated the shooting using both marksman and snipers. Lee Harvey Oswald was a trained marine marksman. Hoover then took over the entire investigation as the head of the FBI. From what I have heard from original sources and read, Lee Harvey Oswald shot the President by mistake. He was aiming at the Governor of TX. As a marksman he aimed directly at the target which was moving, so his shots hit behind the target. A sniper aims where the target will be. (leading the target) Why? After Oswald left the Marines he went to the USSR and became a communist. He later grew tired of that ideology and returned to the US. While he was gone, his honorable discharge was changed to dishonorable because he defected. When he got back to the US, he couldn't hold down a job because he would get fired after the company checked his discharge status. He petitioned the Governor to fix his discharge and the Governor refused. Most of this info is readily available in military records, news clippings and interviews with Oswald's wife. I think the conspiracy is that some three letter agency seized the opportunity and had Jack Ruby kill Oswald to make it look like a Presidential assassination instead of an accident while trying to murder the governor. This event went a long way to keeping us in Vietnam just like 9/11 led us to Iraq. I think that Ruby knew he was sick and they paid him to take out Oswald.
In reference to your belief Lee Oswald was only out to kill the Governor....the thing that doesn’t make that theory possible is the argument that occurred in the Hotel Texas in Fort Worth the night before the assassination... Lyndon Johnson was trying to change the seating arrangement for the motorcade through Dallas the next day...Lyndon Johnson wanted Governor John Connolly to ride with him and he wanted Senator Ralph Yarborough (his enemy) to ride in the president’s limousine....Malcolm Wallace, a man who had already murdered people for Johnson, and who was blind as a bat, may have been given inaccurate information about Yarborough being in the car with Kennedy...The people that Malcolm Wallace Killed for Johnson, like Douglass Kinser and Henry Marshall, were never more than a few feet away...The police did find a 7.65 German Mauser in the Book Depository...When you study the wounds it appears more likely that the Governor was shot with the 7.65 Mauser...the president’s head wound looks more like being shot with a higher velocity - smaller caliber FRANGIBLE bullet...Something like a .223 or .308 ....
There is a lot of Question That He scored as a semi good shooter " To the Editor: William Manchester (letter, Feb. 5) announces: "I needed no authority to assess Lee Harvey Oswald's marksmanship. As a World War II Marine, I had qualified as an expert rifleman on the Parris Island, S.C., range. Oswald, a former Marine, had also qualified." Now these sentences convey the impression, no doubt intended, that Oswald qualified as an expert rifleman. Evidence in the Warren Report, however, shows that Oswald barely qualified as a marksman, the lowest of the three Marine classifications of expert, sharpshooter and marksman. He scored 191 on a scale of 190 to 250. Witnesses to Oswald's prowess on the firing range testified that his frequency of "Maggie's drawers" (complete misses of the entire target) was something of a joke. Oswald was a poor shot, and Mr. Manchester risks his credibility to pretend otherwise. Mr. Manchester continues: "In Dallas he was equipped with a bolt-action, clip-fed, 6.5 Mannlicher-Carcano rifle and a four-power telescopic sight. His target -- the Presidential limousine -- was only 88 yards away from his sniper's nest. At that distance, with that scope, a trained marksman could scarcely miss." The Mannlicher-Carcano was a cheap, old, unreliable make, known in the Italian Army as the "humanitarian rifle," on the ground that it could not hurt anyone on purpose. It was testified that the scope on the rifle was mounted for a left-handed user. Oswald was right-handed. Also, the sights were misaligned, and shims had to be inserted to aim properly. The Warren Commission conducted simulated test firings, a pointless exercise as they took place after corrective adjustments of the scope and sights. Even so, none of the Olympic-class Army riflemen who participated in the tests were able to duplicate the alleged feat of Oswald in firing so rapidly and accurately. Proponents of the Warren Commission have never clearly explained how it reached conclusions contrary to so much of the evidence it itself assembled. HUDSON HATCHER Bronxville, N.Y., Feb. 15, 1992 The writer qualified as an expert on the M1 rifle in the Army.
Governors have no say so over military discharges. That’s all the department of defense. And if anything Kennedy was going to end all the wars. He was set to strike a deal with Khrushchev and Castro and Ho Chi Minh. And the military didn’t want that.
Why is there no talk of the German Mauser rifle, th-cam.com/video/nNXJufM2Ns0/w-d-xo.html, found with the Italian Carcano rifle at the sixth floor of the book depository.(youtube video). Also, I have an old video of damage to Kennedy's car showing bullet hole in the center of the dashboard.
This video is very frustrating to me. I was 13 when Kennedy assassinated and didn’t want to wait 50 years to hear the truth. We still don’t know the truth. Why??? And the bad connection on this video only frustrates me moe😡
Does David know that Oswald emigrated to the USSR? What did he really do there? Does David know that Oswald was "allowed" back into the country? What was that about?
Allowed is not exactly correct.. Oswald wrote dozens of letters to the State Dept over about 20 months, while living in the Soviet Union, almost begging he and his wife to be allowed to return..
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I'm a patsy.
Oswald told us himself he was part of a larger conspiracy and that in retrospect he realized he was going to be the fall guy.
From years of undercover work for [redacted] I can guarantee that [redacted] was the killer aided and abetted by [redacted]. I hope that clears it up for everyone.
Indeed, thank you very much!
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Thank You for all the clarification!!!😂😂
Now they're going to kill you.
Ya rocket
If Oswald was the lone assassin as we’ve been told to believe, then it makes zero sense to conceal any of the records. It never did.
Well, there might be references to fx. intelligence sources, who are still alive and must be protected. But they should be able to redact those name and other identifying description. I certainly dont think, that theres any reason not to release the vast majority with just the parts about sources, that must still be protected, and possible info, that might compromise other cases, things like that redacted.
Oswald was not even on the sixth floor! Three witnesses said!
Just like the 9-11 commission and NIST won't release all the materials relating to the utter failure of Building 7 due to office fires.
Yeah right. Nothing was here concealed except your brain.
Let's say there was a young CIA agent somehow named in secret reports that were never released. Let's say he was 22 in 1963. He would now be 80 years old and the release of these reports, even if redacted, could, by inference perhaps, jeopardize his identity.
A bit odd that these are sealed and EVERY president elects to keep them private.
They just show them a copy of the Zapruder Film...and not the tampered with version that is shown to the public now, but the CIA’s unaltered version of the film
Why don't they just burn them. If you're never going to show them, why keep them?
@@roberthussey595 Bill Hicks put it this way. "Whoever’s elected president… when you win, you go into this smoky room with the twelve industrialists capitalists scum-fucks who got you in there. And a big guy with a cigar goes: ‘Roll the film.’ And it’s a shot of the Kennedy Assassination from an angle you’ve never seen before. It looks suspiciously off the grassy knoll. Then the screen comes up, and they go to the new president: ‘Any questions?’” "Er, just what my agenda is."
@@jamessimpson9690 So? He was a comedian who never served in any public office and was just talkin out his ass....
Not odd at all.
It seems that EVERY PERSON who got the full picture thinks that these informations should not be made public.
And if you come with: "Well, what´s the damage?"
Some information are not supposed to get to the public.
You saw the same thing with the NSA scandal.
You had a NSA agent. Top journalist from one of the biggest newspapers BUT STILL they fucked up the publeshing and information about the war efforts against ISIS were leaked.
Having said that i do think that Snowden did the right thing but stop just assuming the worst freaking szenario with zero evidence behind it.
That is conspiricy thinking the same way like people who think corona is a hoax, and the election was a fraud....
This is pretty wholesome. I like the dynamic between young political pundit and quick thinker David Pakman and the sweet older Jefferson. Both of them care about facts, discussing possibilities but not jumping to conclusions. It is interesting to see the sharp minded man in his early 30s having an inter-generational bonding over intellectual analysis of the assassination of JFK. They are sweet and because I like that here I go.
And Pompeo wants to become president
Agree
@@harryrocco7591
butwhaddabout Trump? He has more Coup rights than Pomp!
@Pol Pot 2024
Cue the “you’re sweet, he’s sweet, everyone is sweet” dialogue in Slingblade by Dwight Yoakam
Woody Allen put it best: "... I've been working on a non-fiction version of the Warren Report."
I like that!
Next time you have him (or any assassination buff) on: 1) Please ask him directly about the assassination itself. Does he think LHO was the sole shooter? Does he think LHO shot Officer Tippett? Does he agree that LHO tried to assassinate Major Gen. Walker earlier in 1963? As much as possible, find out what he believes are FACTS surrounding Oswald, Oswald's rifle, and Oswald's actions on 11/22/63. THEN you can ask him to speculate about what information could lie within the files. 2) Please insist that he connect his computer to the modem with a cable rather than relying on wifi.
I agree with your comment. Here's my take..
Unlikely he was sole shooter.. likely he shot Tippet.. not sure about Gen. Walker.. it probably was Oswald's rifle ordered under an alias he was known to use.. Oswald was probably on the 6th floor either assisting or shooting.
Considering Oswald had connections to virtually every shady organisation in the country I'd say it was obvious why everyone would want it covered up to either protect themselves or stop them from being exposed as completely incompetent after the fact. I presume any incriminating evidence involving specific individuals is long gone.
Also: Jack Ruby has always seemed like a mystery. Was he paid to kill LHO?
A friend of mine's dad was a military ballistics expert who examined LHO's weapon. He went to his grave saying LHO was the lone shooter.
@@kellykeefe3610 I don't have fixed ideas on JFK's killing, but I've learned enough, in my 69 yrs, to know that the official report is often correct. Not always, .....but a lot better than 50%.
@ thanks
I think it is warranted to be suspicious of incomplete records for a crime 57 years later. I am however more inclined to suspect "criminal" incompetence from the Secret Service as cause. But if we don't know, we don't know
Yeah, to be honest this is my suspicion too. I suspect what's being covered up is fuckups, not dark deeds. They all knew about Oswald but for some reason they weren't watching him close enough, and that's the sort of thing that could get some very important people in a lot of trouble and more broadly make the organisation look very bad.
@@CLaw-tb5gg Yeah, I have also heard speculations that a weapon from the secret service accidentally went off in the confusion and that that was the bullet that "sealed the deal"
This accusation was never dealt with (other than verbal denial). If true, it would be understandable that they would "cover it up". After all ... it would have been too FUBAR to deal with. And the longer you wait ...
But that IS speculation, of course (but it definitely would have been an understandable "cover up")
@@busylivingnotdying goes along with how quick the SS cleaned the evidence out of the car right at the hospital .....
@@busylivingnotdying That's the problem with this topic. Everyone has an opinion on it, people who know nothing about the case, people who have seriously read nothing, people who don't know the difference between William Harvey, Lee Harvey Oswald, and Victor Oswald. Yet they bleat and opine as if they have a sense.
"Cover up incompetence." Only someone who knows nothing about this case would believe such drool, yet here are a bunch of time-wasters clogging up web space. And that SS man accidentally firing his weapon?? Get lost and go post over on Reddit.
@@bones007able Yeah, and the size of the hole in the back of his head (too small for that fellow up in the window's weapon. And the angle is supposed to be wrong for that (it went in at the base of the skull and out at the top-front indicating it came from "below", not above. Still though, it's only speculation and would be VERY hurtful (for the agent) if wrong, so ...
Definitely CIA. I mean, they're still messin' with my dude's WiFi connection am I right?
Hahaaah!
I couldn’t help but think the same thing
"DONT LET HIM SAY THE 3RD POINT!!!"
- Some CIA suit probably
Seriously WTF?
Pretty sure they're outside my house right now.
The CIA doesn't know everything. They missed JFK Jr coming back to work with dear orange leader to make 'Merica great again.'
That's right ! They should have investigated that plane crash better.
Lmao
And if he's alive, what happened to his wife ? where has she been for the last 25 years ?
Good one!!!😂😂😂
@@chrismcdevitt7814 Raising the kids off the grid.
SPOILER... nothing newsworthy has been disclosed.
I think the people of the United States should be allowed to know the information in those files about Kennedy’s assignation.
There are over 60 million Americans right now who can’t understand how elections work. How can they be expected to grasp the reality of JFKs murderers?
Your not ready for the answer and we will never have a real answer also even if we were given the truth we as humans still wouldn't believe it
They have. And they still think C-O-N....spiracy
@@gfexc For Very Good Reason!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“JFK Revisited: Through the Looking Glass” from Oliver Stone was absolutely eye opening and seems to already connect the dots pretty well. Worth the watch.
No one should trust anything Stone puts his name on.
@@peterstafford4426 check out the book False Witness which tells the real story about Jim Garrison and the Clay Shaw trial. Garrison's case revolved around the fact that Shaw was gay and the assassination was a "homosexual thrill killing "
Everybody with a brain knows JFK from Oliver Stone was total stupidity. Way to fall for it.
@@stephenjackson7797 I wish someone would make a movie about the real story of the Clay Shaw trial
Stone is a liar.
How ironic- he's talking about the assassination of Kenedy and the audio gets interrupted.
Right, especially when the worst interruptions kept happening whenever Morley got to the juiciest part. Those could have been "random" interruptions, but if so, they came at the worst possible time in the interview.
Just at the critical time that he was exploring what the records might show and that LHO was a CIA operative , namely a patsy .
I'm old enough to remember when Oswald screamed when they dragged him to jail that he was a patsy I knew something was up. A Patsy is a person who is easily manipulated or victimized....before Ruby shot him.... to shut him up?
We must be near the same age. I was 15 and remember that vividly. Back in the early 2000s a man named Michael Hasty (If I recall correctly) pinned an online article entitled "Paranoid Shift." It's worth looking for if you can find it. Suffice it to say, the JFK assassination was the beginning of mine, and Oswald was neither the last or most recent patsy.
The part that doesn't make sense is the fact he used a very cheap rifle. If he was a part of a hit team, he would have at least had a half decent rifle. In the JFK movie, they made out like Oswald wasn't much of a shot, but he had achieved rifleman level, which I think was higher than marksman status. Oswald was a very good shot.
It really was all so suspect. Not saying that he didn't shoot Kennedy but there was definitely more the story that has not been revealed.
@@michaelwells6075 Thank you for this! I read the comments to find connections like you've provided. I don't find many but yours is a gold mine. I am very grateful to you.
He may have been one of the shooters but it seems doubtful after an expert removed color from zapruder to analyze it in b+w and said no shots came from the book building or at least none that hit the motorcade . But h howard hunt admitted to being part of the assassination and said it was called the big event. He was probably the grassy knoll gunman
Such a great interview, thank you.
There's still questions that remain all these years later....😞
So the jammers are interfering with this guest’s answers. That is nothing new. Fascinating nevertheless. Thanks for posting!
Thought the same thing.
No, just typical intermittent broadband connection issues.
@@adamjg4 I assume you're being ironic/sarcastic (i.e. snarky) when you write that. Those were some of the most atypical and extreme distortions I've seen in recent years. Jamming is a very plausible possibility.
@@tjmc1378 Absolutely agree. While we can't prove this was done intentionally, the most extreme distortions in the signal came just as he was making the most important points, just when someone with a motive would have wanted to jam the signal the most.
Amazing that the CIA kept trying to break his internet connection the entire interview
Damn CIA has its paws on everything loll
It was batman messing with the cables to get him off the line because he's gotta talk to the commissioner about the joker.
Just a coincidence.
Definitely odd they had bad connection
@@kevinhoffman6592 you’re right, because that never happens.
The idea that the CIA would be completely unaware of a former defector to the Soviet Union in 1963 is
[redacted]
We even know the name of his U.S. minder. George de Mohrenschildt. And we have some idea of that man's role in framing Oswald. And we have some details of Johnson's involvement in the plan. But if all we listen to is this video none of that will enter our understanding.
Oh yeah, i almost forgot: George de Mohrenschildt was killed by a shotgun blast to his head, inside his library. The weapon was left in his hands as if to suggest he elected to commit suicide with a shotgun.
Oh yeah: this happened during a break in the middle of a tell-all interview that de Mohrenschildt was giving to.... a JFK conspiracy researcher. He wrote it all up in the book he was working on at that time.
So much for calling the conspiracy a "theory".
The fact that he wasn't taken off the plane in handcuffs upon his return is telling. An ex-Marine too. Where was the show trial? The Bircher hand-wringing? Very suspicious.
@@bob7975 Thank you.... you are one of the few who gets it. And in about 10 years' time, if we don't manage to change something, finding anyone under the age of 45 who can even understand the meaning of that comment without having it explained will be almost impossible. I mean just consider that the host of this interview probably wouldn't even get it if he read it... and he's one of the best we got.
@@no_rubbernecking George as a boogie man is a stretch. He threw Oswald under the bus when he testified and I have never had anyone explain to my satisfaction what exactly George did to handle Oswald.
@@johncooper7663 Throwing him under the bus is what you'd expect a CIA agent who was helping to frame a patsy to do.
I haven't seen the book in ages but it had been digitized and i'll see later if i can find it again and link to it. It's a mind-blowing read. He was gonna say more and then sometime between the end of that day's interview and the author's arrival at his house the next day, he was k----d.
So many second level questions that could be confirmed or denied with a simple direct question, and a simple direct response. Example: how did LHO get out of the Soviet Union so easily and quickly, and how and why was he so readily taken back and set up with a Russian support network? As a Marine did he really have access to classified information that would be useful to the Soviets? In Dallas that day, why would he go home to pick up his handgun instead of bringing it with him that morning? The pre, post, and during life story and actions and motivations of LHO have always confused me, and the story given does not line up with the way the world worked at the time.
Jack Ruby is also a big question mark.
I don't think LHO was so important, other than being the trigger man. Everything runs on money. Someone likely paid LHO to shoot the gun. We'll never know, because Ruby shot LHO before he could talk. If my scenario is correct, then Ruby was likely hired to off LHO, ...and Ruby is dead.
That’s a good point about why didn’t LHO bring the handgun to work with him that morning. And LHO leaving all the $ he had with Marina, along with his wedding ring in an antique cup on the dresser - he must’ve known he wasn’t coming back to Irving the evening of 11/22/63, saying in the Texas theatre - “it’s all over now” when the police accosted him. Aside from the terrible tragedy of JFK’s murder, the next worst thing was Ruby killing LHO to shut him up. And LHO saying, ‘I’m just a patsy.’
Well, he begged the state department to come home from Russia, actually.. Wrote some 20 letters over 24 months..
But why would you know that, you’re just repeating what you’ve heard.. lol..
For a second there I thought David was having face time with his future self.
Agree. We've entered the uncanny valley with this one.
🙄😂🤣
I read a book years ago and I can't remember the book name or author I apologize. It went into the people behind his murder. CIA, FBI, Mafia, Israel, France. Oswald was a pawn used by the CIA as a scapegoat.
Because you read it in a book?
David Jennings - Of course Israel would be included. A conspiracy theory isn’t really a conspiracy theory if it doesn’t include Jews🙄. Also JFK’s papa was a notorious Jew Hater, maybe he and his followers were behind the Israel - well really the Jewish conspiracy thingy.🙄
@@chouloudemusilin I dont think they were going the anti semitic route or theyd have just left France out but it's an angle to consider about the original source for sure
@Skankhunt36 ... well that is where - on occasion- knowledge is ascertained... there have been more than 500 books written about this subject...anyone who only believes the government’s version of events is a fool
@@roberthussey595 I don't believe the government's narrative, I just believe a completely different chain of events than this person, because I read a different book.
- *_If there's nothing to hide, why hide so much?_*
- That's it in a nutshell, isn't it?
Not much is hidden though. And nothing yet to be released will alter the information that has already been made public. It will not alter the fact that Oswald assassinated Kennedy.
Keep in mind that most of the MLK assassination files aren't released yet. There are supposed to be released in 2029.
We know for sure who shot MLK. And Bobby. It’s on tape, with eye witnesses. This hasn’t got any eye witnesses (that we know of).
David, it's a little strange that this video jumps around quite a bit when your guest is speaking.
3:34 - CIA at it again
@@NewNormalWorldOrder Dude, we can see blood coming out of his head via the bullethole in various footage. There is no way JFK survived a headshot. To the HEAD.
The new world is a TROLL!
@@NewNormalWorldOrder "DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH, ME CALL OTHER CHANNELS BOTS WHEN THEY AREN'T, THAT MAKE ME SMART!" Also, are you seriously saying that something that people saw happen WITH THEIR OWN EYEBALLS didn't happen? I guess that means reality is fake, too, according to your so-called "lOgIc?
If the CIA is into assassinating presidents Trumputin wouldn’t still be breathing.
@@NewNormalWorldOrder to be fair, a film set where you can stop/resume in a closed set is VERY different from a public event being filmed live (and being watched by real spectators). Faking a headshot in that scenario would be impossible (unless of course every single person at the event was in on it). He’s dead.
On Thanksgiving 1978 I had dinner at the home a Special Agent of the FBI, at his farm in Maryland. The guy worked directly with Hoover. I asked him what he thought really happened to JFK. He lapsed into a tirade and called JFK a "fucking whore monger" and a "godamned communist". He said JFK and RFK got "what they deserved." The guy went off - his hatred for the Kennedy's was off the charts. For God's sake, the doctor's at Parkland ALL say that the autopsy photos presented to the Warren Commission must have been fakes, of one kind of another - they didn't vaguely resemble what they'd seen in the ER. And on the evening of the assassination, the Dallas DA gives a press conference. Somehow, a random strip club owner gets into this thing - when the DA says that Oswald was the head of the "Free Cuba Committee" Jack Ruby stands on a chair and corrects him, correctly stating that it was called the "Fair Play For Cuba Committee". And, recall, the Warren Commission found that Ruby didn't know Oswald, at all, and was not part of any conspiracy. WTF? How did this random bar owner (1) get into this thing, and, (2) how in the hell does Ruby know the name of this "committee" which Oswald never promoted in Dallas - there's no evidence that Oswald ever actually held a meeting of this thing. Ruby knows this completely oddball fact about the life of this guy he doesn't know at all. Okay. He's got to be in on the plot to frame Oswald - or he knows the guy really well....or something. People will believe anything. The CIA coined the term "conspiracy theory" to throw shade on people who asked legitimate questions. Of course it was a conspiracy - probably elements of the government, Texas oil men, the mob, and others who hated Kennedy for one reason or another. Oswald was used - and only a Kennedy hater or hyper-nationalist nut job couldn't look at the totality of the facts and pretend that there was no conspiracy. Ask every doctor from the Parkland ER and - to a man - they'll tell you the autopsy photos submitted to the Warren Commission were some kind of fakes.
i was born in Dallas in 63 , grew up fascinated by the whole assassination, gave tours in Dealey plaza for 3 years, stood in every possible area including climbing up on the same concrete stand that Zapruder filmed from, i believe that Oswald was incapable of carrying out such a sophisticated operation without some kind of help or guidance
Sophisticated? The president happened to drive by the place Oswald worked. After he shot JFK, Oswald ran downstairs and got on a bus. This is not James Bond quality espionage.
@@johncooper7663. That's the official line.
@@robertcatterall438 The official line is based on eyewitness testimony and forensics.
If you put 5 conspiracy clowns in one room you would get 5 wildly different versions and after an hour they would be accusing each other or being a mole or a government plant.
Guess what side I am on.
@@johncooper7663. He didn't 'happen' to drive by, it was a planned route.
@@johncooper7663. It all depends which forensics you believe. There is 'forensic' analysis that a bullet in pristine condition just happened to be discovered at the scene.
Believe that if you like, but it's an event never before in history, nor reproduced since.
"They don´t want to comply with the laW". A very clever observation!
Could Mr. Morley or a journalist sue under the Freedom of Information Act to get those records that, under law, should have been released already?
Everything that gets FOIA'd or has been released (even the Warren report) is very heavily redacted.
It’s likely that if anyone had standing to appeal an FOI request for the documents discussed the appeal process would result in the CIA issuing a Glomar Denial - "We can neither confirm nor deny the existence of the information requested but, hypothetically, if such data were to exist, the subject matter would be classified, and could not be disclosed”
Sue who? The Justice Department, totally infiltrated by Trump appointed 'Nuttsi's', is pretty much useless if Garland can be used as an example, there's a documented criminal still wandering around freely dispensing of his lie based ideology to adoring fans on TV and the Internet and in his off time, playing/cheating at golf at his headquarters in Mar Lago Florida. So who do you sue? Who CAN you sue?
The CIA has been sued and lost on releasing paper work before. They simply dont comply.
@@morganthomas1576 that’s the latest gambit in America today. Nobody complies with anything.
David great job keeping your cool with his bad connection. I know it drives you wild
Everyone knows that there are decades old ties between Texas and the former Soviet Union. Just because the Soviet Union isn't on the map anymore doesn't mean the neighbors, families and political ties have changed.
JFK prevented the Cuban missile crisis which was a Soviet attempt to launch missiles at American targets from Cuba.
Admittedly, a large portion of the white population of Texas has a geniology linked to Czechoslovakian ancestry. Czechoslovakia was definitely a part of the former Soviet union. How many sleeper cell KGB agents could have been or may still be living under assumed American identities in Texas and other parts of the U.S.? If we still have citizens who sympathize with Nazi ideology, it's not a stretch of the imagination to think KGB and Lennon era Soviet sympathizers still exist.
I think you could be correct.
But instead of bombs, they are using anti democracy tactics. Suppressing voting rights,women's right to choose, etc. I think the KGB is behind thR GOP and Qanon.
Better question;
Why is it anything is ever hidden from those PEOPLE who ARE the government?
"WE" will never know the truth, and they wonder why no one trusts the government !
@@daghostxxx1797 July 4, 1776
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness
1778 The First Treaty With The Delaware Indians 1782 Treaty Broken
Pennsylvania militiamen killed nearly 100 Lenape (most of them women and children) at the village of Gnadenhutten in March 1782.
The 15th amendment was passed 94 years after-- February 8, 1870
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal"
That 1630 sermon by John Winthrop is now famous mainly for its proclamation that we “shall be as a city upon a hill.”
America Is A Christian Nation...really?
A nation built on lies, shares commonality with
And every one that hears these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
"A double minded man is unstable in all of his ways".
It was a Cia black op. Their man shot him from the front. Look at the film unedited
In thePlaza where JFK was assassinated, they have a museum set up in the book depository where the supposed shot was fired from. The window where Oswald was supposed to have fired from is set up to look exactly like it did on that day. it is called the Sniper's Nest, and the museum is called the Assassination Museum. The Sniper's Nest is a very accurate reconstruction. One of the main reasons it is so accurate is because Oswald isn't in it.
Obviously a frontal shot. No question
After all this time, it is very frustrating that people continue to try to do their jobs over shaky Wi-Fi.
What are the odds of two brothers being assassinated in the same family? What are the odds of that assassination happening years apart? What are the odds that one was president and years later the other might be president? These brothers could win the Powerball with luck like that.
6:54 ...... as Buford T. Justice would say.....
"The goddamn Germans ain't got nothin' to do with this!!"
About two decades ago someone somewhere wrote: "The file will stay closed till 2050. Because by then all involved - including John & Jackie's children - will have passed on".
So that's the "privacy" reason your vid is mentioning. At the time I expected that this would not keep the data a secret, it would leak. And that never happened.
I also remember an interview in 1994 held by Robert Kiviat and Wim Dankbaar with a guy named James File aka James Sutton who said that HE was the Grassy Knoll shooter. He was in jail at that time, serving a 50 year conviction for attempted murder on two police officers, I never took that serious. But he was the first one who came forward with a "I did it" confession.
James File is still alive, btw.
Bullet hits 2 men, 7 wounds, numerous bones & exits 'pristine'? Bullet hits JFK skull and is fragmented? Uh-huh.
in further news... secret info about the revolutionary war was delayed from being released for another 25 years.
Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd were behind the grassy knoll.
@@user6008: Fuck'n I'll bet.
My theory is that Oswald was involved in an operation that is still currently partly active that affects directly Cuba or Russia.
Or Finland.
Apparently there is lots to keep hidden. And why does the public need to know anything? It is not like they matter.
What are the facts of Oswalds backstory? Whe know he defected after leaving the military on pretty poor terms, he eventually got a Sovjet citizenship, married and was back in USA after 3 years, and that his life after that unraveled. It's a strange history considering the times, did he really do all this as a private citizen? And what about Jack Ruby, not only managing to get close and kill Oswald with a single shot, but he dies just 3 years later, conveniently loosing his mind after a vistit from "jolly" West of operation MK Ultra fame, it all sound like too many coincidences to be the full story.
Cameras at every turn in todays world, and politicians etc still get away with murder (literally and figuratively). Imagine 50+ years ago.. it’s amazing if we ever get an entire truth
Yea, Ruby was as big a question mark - as anyone else in that imbroglio.
Oswald was the guy who took the fall for the crime, he said he was a patsy.
I believe Oswald was Intelligence. How much he knew about what was going to actually happen that day, I don't know, but I bet he wasn't a shooter. Once the President had been shot, I think he knew he'd been framed and that was why he ran. I don't believe he shot officer Tippit either. I hear a bunch of people saying that there was no way it could have been a conspiracy, that someone would have talked. A lot of people did talk, and they were either dead or threatened into silence soon after. I think Jack Ruby had terminal cancer and that's why he shot Oswald. I don't know what his connections were besides bribing local cops and in with gangsters in the area. Dead men tell no tales, right?
The reason they wanted JFK dead isn't complicated. J. Edgar Hoover (FBI) hated the Kennedys with a passion. I was only eighteen months old when JFK was killed, so I have no direct knowledge of him as a President. What I know, I've read and seen. My impression has always been that he was very intelligent, thoughtful, courageous, logical, and had a will of steel. He understood what his job was and didn't tolerate nonsense.
He was going to get us out of Vietnam. The first troops were coming home at Christmas. The military did NOT like that. Wars make money, which they felt was worth the loss of life they take. The bigger issue was that Kennedy believed the CIA had much more power than it should. He said he would shatter the CIA into a million pieces.
@@Tam5115 a bit of trivia: days prior to Ruby's famous gunshot, Robbie Robertson and his band (The Band) met Ruby at the nightclub he owned. Also, my dad was career CIA (came thru from OSS) and I never heard him voice an opinion of JFK's murder. However, my dad and I would have vigorous conversations about things like Iran-Contra - he being conservative and me being Liberal. Side note: from the late 50's through to early 70's, the CIA was essentially run by a hard core drunkard. Jim Angleton, after 5 martini lunches, would retire each night to drink, solo, a fifth of bourbon. His sidekick was ex-KGB Golytsin. The pair kneecapped the CIA for all those years. Even though they were the top CIA 'mole-killers' - they were possibly moles themselves. They ruined dozens of spy careers, and would sometimes send Soviet defectors back to the USSR to be shot. It's not dissimilar to Trump outing a US spy in Syria, when T invited the 2 top Russkie agents into the Oval Office (Feb. 2017). Only Russkie journalists allowed in to that meeting, ....no Americans.
LHO requested Soviet citizenship, but was denied. Who is "MK Ultra fame"?
This one of the too many reasons people don't trust government which is the main cause for antvaxxers
There is good eye witness accounts of those employed by Kodak at the time that the Zapruder film was altered before it was ever shown to the public or anyone outside the alphabet agencies.
Because it is. Whenever you view the Z film know that it has been slteted, edited, and is missing framed.Same with other photos and films confiscated.
I forgot about that.
We will never know… but, there was more than Oswald as a shooter …
We may know one day, and yes, I think it’s pretty obvious he can’t be the lone actor.
If the CIA was incompetent or they directed the hit, what happens when that is made public? Really, what happens??
it wouldn't have been the CIA in charge, it would have been the Secret Service. The CIA just provides the intel.
I know a lot of people think this guy is either a liar or nuts but I would encourage people to watch James Files JFK MOB Hitman. It's very long but also very interesting.
Trump swore teddy's pops did it
No thinking person believes anything djt says. 💩💩
That's no joke. Cruz's father was part of that CIA plot to cause a stir in Louisiana. There is data that shows the CIA planned that event. Fair Play for Cuba committee.
LOL!
It's funny how the feed is so scratchy, like maybe the CIA was watching with their finger on the "kill this guy's internet" button.
Wonder if it’s the same CIA spooks who were cutting the microphones of defense lawyers during trials of terror suspects at Guantanamo Bay…
I think the CIA is responsible for the bad connection. AGH please have him on again this is way too interesting!!
Right! Every time he mentioned operation northwoods google voice kept activating on my cell phone.
It's like your cable going out in the middle of a big sports play!🤣
If it’s a law that all the records be revealed, the appropriate legal challenge would be to file a motion for issuance of a Writ of Mandate by a court of competent jurisdiction commanding the relevant agency to carry out its duties under law.
No offense, but nothing was said or really revealed here. I found myself drifting out because all he was doing was rambling on and on with no substance. It quite frankly came off as if he just likes hearing himself talk.
Thanks so much for the video and info.
I wish you All the best.
If US history was longer, Americans wouldn't be so obsessed with a handful of spectacular events.
Maybe Americans should focus on actual knowledge, e.g. things that are elevant for the whole planet,
like its survival..... or common sense nation building and politics
If our country can’t tell us the truth about something that happened 50 years ago , what chance do we have to get to the bottom of ANYTHING
...@@struthersboyz4990 Maybe focus on re-establishing trust in today's news. If one political side can just claim anything (i.e.. making things up...) without being contradicted, truths will no longer matter.
Wow! So your solution is what? Invent a time machine and break away from the British empire earlier….. then we would have a longer history? I actually lost 10 IQ points by reading your comment😜
A weird summation. Do better
Oswald killed Kennedy
jesse ventura wrote a book that details the killing and what happened for several years after.
Ralph Colerick - didn’t good ol Jesse blame the Jews for it.
He also did a very disingenuous shooting recreation to prove it was impossible to make the shots. Jesse was using a 50+ year old mannlicher carcano that clearly had been buried in dirt and hadn't been properly serviced in years.
A shooter in 1963 would have gotten a new rifle that actually functioned properly.
And of course there has been at least one recreation where a shooter was able to replicate the shots with a mannlicher carcano.
@@dyronw.brodbeck Who are his spawns of Satan?
@@chouloudemusilin The EVIL bush families. The Pierce side too: barbara Pierce bush's mother: Pauline Pierce was a WELL Known Cultist / Socialite of the 1920s, until her death.
She was a proud Satan Worshiper, and had to "tone it down" for the prescott bush Criminals!
@@dyronw.brodbeck I am not a fan of the Bush family. It is just that many conspiracy theories about JFK murder include the Mossad, Israel and Jews - and those conspiracy theories are full of Jew hatred.
Clear talk here. Thank you
I was on the ARRB staff and am familiar with the records that were not released in their entirety -- and I believe that they should now all be released in their entirety. However, it is important to note, that the ARRB released ALL information that it understood as being relevant to the assassination, including ALL records related to Lee Harvey Oswald. Any information about the CIA and Oswald has already been released. This is exactly the type of information that the ARRB prioritized in releasing.
If this is really you Mr. Gunn? Any and all records on the President’s murder should never have been held back for any reason. This was a murder, plain and simple. For records and files to have been hidden for 58 years speaks volumes as to what were they trying to hide. I know for a fact Mr. Gunn that records and files relating to JM-Wave and George Johannides are still being withheld. Am I really responding to the real Jeremy Gunn who worked with Douglas Horne?
@@davidpallin772 This was "a murder plain and simple" carried out by a single assassin. The hidden files trick will not salvage the lost cause of a JFK conspiracy.
@@stddisclaimer8020 Here we go again with the Trolls, Mr Troll..
@@ENDTIMEsVideoLibrary "END TIMES Trolling Library" is at it again. He's binged on assassination disinformation, and pinching it out as if it were truth.
@@stddisclaimer8020 Nice try but you Turn Coats are vastly outnumbered by those of us who don't sell ourselves out for treason. Thank you for playing.. Please drive through..
Come on David you're above this...
The CIA was interfering with his transmission.
Insightful.
"Release the goddamn files!" - Bill Hicks
The Kennedy family ought to sue for the records...
So, what are we buying today?
CIA blocking his connection
It a very interesting take on the movie "JFK". I always hated it for presenting "facts" that had long been debunked, like the silly "magic bullet" theory. I didn't know that Stone used the, "I did that on purpose" excuse. Clever.
I always had the impression that the provocative "interpretation" was designed specifically to trigger public speculation and demand for more clarity from the government. What I object to mostly about the film is how Stone weaved himself into Jim Garrison and idealized the character and presented that as fact. I think anyone watching the film would have a clear distinction of what was "speculation" and what was fact (as presented). Having said that, what Stone clearly argued for through his fictionalized Garrison, especially in that last court speech, is entirely legitimate and deserves praise. The public ought to know more of what the CIA and pentagon know. It's entirely in the public interest to uncover the classified files, and probably also very congruent with the goal of strengthening national security, instead of the opposite as the CIA claims.
? The magic bullet is the official version. One bullet hit both Kennedy and Connally. It has never been categorically debunked. I am skeptical about one bullet following that trajectory and doing that much damage but I am far from an expert.
@@KenS1267
The "magic" part has been debunked. When that shot was fired, Connally had turned in his seat; he was in a contorted position. The bullet went straight.
@@KenS1267 that bullet that came out of the gun in Baldwins hand went through two people and possibly could have wounded a third person if one had been in line.
@@gplito There's a major difference between penetrating soft tissue and penetrating many different bones. The magic bullet broke I do not even remember how many bones in both the Governor and President. Without changing its trajectory or being noticeably damaged.
I do know that as a lifelong hunter with a 7.62mm rifle at ranges not unlike that under discussion a single rib is enough to make a clean kill shot to the heart challenging on a deer and the better shot is through the spaces, if the animal is standing still, or from the forward oblique angle in front of the ribs. That still doesn't make the shot impossible just raises doubts, as it has for many people.
Instead of allowing an investigation at the time. It was fast to call Oswald and swear in Johnson.
Oswald was just a pasty. I highly recommend reading the book JFK and the Unspeakable by James W. Douglas.
JFK and the Unspeakable - why he died and why it matters - is one of the best books on the assassination...two other books are Dr Mary’s Monkey by Edward Haslam and Me & Lee - How I came to know, love, and lose Lee Harvey Oswald by Judyth Baker and you’ll see why Lee was chosen to be the patsy...Dr. Mary’s Monkey is not even a book about the assassination itself but you will see why the government wanted to keep it secret...especially anything pertaining to Lee Oswald’s past. Because some things may be more sinister than the assassination itself...
Agreed that he was a pasty. He didn't kill anyone including the cop.
Excellent book. Also read Jim Garrison’s book about it 👍
Pasty? Or a patsy?
@@kettle2293 😝
Please David do not start covering conspiracy theories because I will not watch those broadcasts - that’s my view , you can do whatever you want with your channel of course.
He's been on the downward spiral for months. I stopped watching regularly when he proclaimed that democrats should kill the spending bill because it isn't as big as he wanted.
Has the General Walker bullet ever been through ballistics testing to verify if it came from the assassination weapon?
Don’t know, but Marina Oswald knew her husband shot at, and missed Gen. Walker. If only she hadn’t been afraid to tell the police.
Good question
The "Walker bullet" was so fragmented it could not be identified to any gun.
It did not.
Gen Walker stated that the bullet in evidence wasn't the bullet that was fired at him.
Northwoods is a pretty crazy accurate template...
Wow this is exhausting!
I was 12 years in the Secret Service your uniform division. I wrote two books crisis of character and secrets of the Secret Service. I believe Oswald's first shot hit the ground, about the same time in the follow-up limo a Secret Service agent picked up M-16, oswalt's second shot strikes the president in the back of the neck. In the follow-up car the agent loses his balance has his finger on the trigger accidentally fires off around Street Hoover the windshield of his car striking the president in the back of the head. As more time goes by and POTUS after POTUS. Refuses to release all information I feel this is a very likely scenario. Also years ago a book was written about this scenario in that theory was ballistically proven. When I wrote secrets of the Secret Service, I set aside the conspiracy theories and my bias both pro and con for the Secret Service and looked at what I experienced and what I researched. If you see the Secret Service as the superhumans, you're mistaken. We started out as good men and women doing a very important job. The Secret Service as all of the issues of Any Government agency, the Postal Service, the IRS. And my time there're want the most hostile management systems to work for, into appox 2014, out of 305 Government agencies the Secret Service morale was 305, they were more unhappy thank corrections officers working in the maximum security prison Full of the most heinous human behavior known to man. Also the guest left out that in the early 90s when Congress looked at the JFK assassination, the Secret Service had to publicly admit they have destroyed all the records of the motorcade and thir behavior relating to JFK. Respectfully Gary
That is not what happened and were you in the secret service you would know better. George Hickey never pulled the trigger, something far worse occurred.
They are not assassination files -- they are accidental homicide files.
They are not released (1) because Agent Hickey accidentally shot jfk, (2) because Agent Hill is still alive.
Hickey's Colt Armalite AR15 01 we now know didn’t have a BURST mode, it had an AUTO mode.
And we can be fairly certain that agent Hickey accidentally fired an auto burst of at least 4 shots, probably 5, possibly 6. Here is my 6-shot scenario & timeline. The AR15 01 probly fired at 400 rpm.
Shot-6 is the last shot, the JFK headshot (at Zapruder frame Z313). The remnant slug exits & cracks the windshield just left of the mirror. Anyhow, whether JFK was hit by Shot-6 or Shot-5 or Shot-4, it was the last shot that hit him - as the AR15 was falling - ie as agent Hickey was falling forward. Hickey was in the process of standing up to turn around to find a target near the TSBD, when the Queen Mary (the followup limo) braked, Hickey falling forward onto O'Donnell sitting in the jumpseat.
Shot-5 puts a dent in the chrome trim above & right of the mirror. Fragments dent the back of the mirror.
Shot-4 goes over the windshield & hits the tarmac of Elm St.
Shot-3 goes over the windshield & hits the concrete curb.
Shot-2 goes over the windshield & hits grass.
Shot-1 goes over the windshield & hits the tarmac of Main St & ricochets onto the curb 23'4" from the pier, near Tague. Tague's left cheek is stung & bloodied by a fragment of lead from Shot-1.
The 52 grain deformed remnant of what is probly the 55 grain slug from shot-1 or one of the later shots is found buried on top of the triple underpass by Lester using a detector in 1974.
Um, so how did Connoly get hit?
@@jamesfrank3213
Oswald fired 2 shots -- the 2nd (at say Z218) went throo jfk & then throo Connally (the magic bullet).
Strange some of his closest friends were in the follow up cars.
Yet not one has corroborated your nutty claim.
@@Stoptheweird
U should get 2 books -- The Smoking Gun -- Mortal Error -- about $30 ea plus postage.
Pakman, for the love of God, if you talk about the Kennedy Assassination again please do your research prior to the event. If you really believe it was mere incompetence, then you may as well just quit right now. 60 years later hiding stuff due to mere incompetence. Give me a break
Don't forget about Jack Ruby who shot Lee Harvey Oswald!!
Dale hannon - and your point is?
Jack Rubenstein... used to work for Dick Nixon. No 💩.
@@chouloudemusilin - It is ALL connected. Lee Harvey Oswald probably would have talked about what was entailed, so Jack Ruby, also known by the Criminals of the CIA, needed to STOP Oswald.
When being transferred inside the Dallas jail, Oswald looked at a camera and said " I'm the patsy. " An assassin would never say that. He is proud of his actions.
But an assassin would attempt to lay the groundwork for a defense by saying…”they have taken me in because I lived in the Soviet Union… I’m just a patsy”… Which is an actual direct quote, not conveniently edited to change the context..
He’s clearly saying he’s a convenient arrest because he was a defector.. Not that he’s a fall guy for a conspiracy..
Context is important, which is why YOU SHOULDNT EDIT IT!..
David is being presented with an expert who is substantially more informed on this subject than he is. Nonetheless, he insists on clinging to this idea that it is impossible that the CIA was in any way operationally responsible for the Kennedy assassination. This is incredibly narrow thinking considering all the information that's come out over the past decades. Seems to me that someone is a very dedicated member of the establishment.
CIA Zane Mafia both..
I just wanna make sure we’re talking about the same CIA, here..
The same CIA that missed 9/11?.. That missed 100K Soviet troops amassing on the Afghan border?.. lol.. That same CIA that screwed up the Bay of Pigs, Iran, missed Soviet missile being I
Ported tithe island until they were almost operational?..
The same CIA that learned about the Berlin Wall coming down from a local Berlin newscast, just like everyone else?!.. LMAO!..
The same CIA that was in an agency civil war for 15 years, from 1964-1978?..
Is that the CIA you believe did this operation?.. In America, where they have no charter and no network of spies to use?..
Because if it is, all I can do is just laugh at you.. Smh..
@@jacobjones5269 I promise you that the cia did not "miss" 911. Some ultra covert compartment made up of saudi intelligence, mossad, agency and god knows who else pulled it off in the first place. Oswald was an agency asset. I realize you are far too comfortable in your cozy POV to consider these possibilities.
@@SpaceyMonkey75
It has nothing to do with being comfortable, and everything to do with the evidence.. The guy was a textbook crackpot, who was totally unreliable as an asset..
@@SpaceyMonkey75
Bring me evidence, and I’ll reconsider..
David interviews future David
"What's Actually in the Hidden JFK Assassination Files?"
Trump's birth certificate.
His draft card.
His actual Bone Spur.
His daddy’s love
Interesting question
Why do you think JFK Jr named his magazine George? Because that's who killed his dad, George Bush Sr. It cost him his life also.
He could be David’s dad.
If Edward Snowden's description of the 'culture' in the secret services is anywhere near accurate, their incompetence could offer a very plausible reason for not publicizing some embarassing information, as the incompetence may well have been present even in Kennedy's days. It's also very likely Kennedy would have stopped wasting government money on the agencies for that reason. Failing to stop a guy like Oswald from killing JFK - for a failure it was - could have been inspired by more than one reason.
Snowden’s opinion of anything is worthless. He is a low level hacker thief with the reputation of a guy with some insight. False.
@@markwest1963 False: He's way more than that. You don't give any arguments for your claim to the contrary.
@@GiacomodellaSvezia I don’t need to. He is a criminal who ran with files and secrets through Hong Kong to Russia. He made a lot of noise about gov surveillance on the way out to cover the fact that those files were 1/100th part of all of the secret files he stole and gave to Russia. Anyone who believes he is a patriot, or that he is knowledgeable about anything other than theft and defecting to Russia, is naive
@@markwest1963 Again, empty accusations.
@@GiacomodellaSvezia to those like you who are willfully obtuse, sure. To anyone with any *actual* knowledge of what happened, without Glenn Greenwald’s treasonous spin, absolutely and positively true. All of it. Get a clue
I read through a lot of, but not all of the comments and some reply's and no one seems to have touched on one of the possible conspiracy theories relating to both the reason for the assassination and those responsible. The fact that both recent and current Presidents have chosen not to release the full files imo is telling in and of itself of a deep secret coverup because imo such a release would not only reveal this was an inside job, but it more importantly it would disclose the reason behind it, which again imo is not a false attack to justify a military response in order to liberate Cuba, but rather world changing revelation that the CIA learned the president was about to publicly disclose the existence of, and covert military involvement with, advanced intelligent life forms not born of this earth, aka "aliens" and the alien presence on this planet. I have no proof of this, merely speculation based on conspiracy theories in the ufo community that I find more credible than any other theory as to the reason behind the murder, no other reason comes close to justifying this extreme act of violence against such a well liked president who oddly enough is credited with the start of the space race program that led to our landing on the moon. That's a secret they can't ever tell, sadly if true.
It was almost 60 years ago. Until somebody can produce concrete evidence (which I doubt they can) proving otherwise, I will still believe Oswald acted alone.
LOL
watch the movie JFK
@@speck343 Gov. John Connelly (also shot, but survived) saw the film JFK in 1991. He said it was a great film, but total fiction. Interesting that with all the people supposedly shooting at JFK, the only bullets (and fragments) all were ballistically matched to Oswald’s cheap Italian carbine.
If it wasn't for one home movie n it was used in movie JFK lone gunman theory might cut it. Laws of physics being applied makes any reasonable person think . also Robert Kennedy was removed from his position as attorney general n handful of top mafia men got off the hook because of it then Robert was killed on his way to becoming President . Jack Ruby had wanted to make a statement before he died in prison but for some reason some one put a stop to that . Seems the rabbit hole is bottomless .
@@garyferguson1105 u should ask how many shots were fired n how many bullets were retrieved . the way 1 bullet was found is very suspicious look that up .
When just about everyone involved is long dead but they still won't release them.. it makes one wonder, no?
No, it doesn't make me wonder. There is information in those reports which is still relevant to how the FBI conducts investigations against criminal and terrorist activity. The FBI isn't going to tell people how they can circumvent routine investigative routines to conduct criminal activity or attacks on our nation.
Even when all the people involved in this will have died from old age, we won't know the truth. You would think that someone would talk from their death bed, having nothing to lose, but it seems this will not happen.
They still teach Oswald as a crazy lone assassin in history classes today with no mention of the 1979 House Select Committee On Assassination that said there was a good chance of conspiracy. The government can wait out people like me who were alive when JFK was murdered. E Howard Hunt said on his deathbed that he was one of the 3 tramps by the grassy knoll. Hunt also was a CIA operative. The crazy theory that the kill shot to the head came from behind because his head moved forward before violently moving back and to the left is bs. JFK had just been shot in his neck, his hands were being raised to his throat which would cause his head to move slightly forward before the kill shot from the front caused the head to move back and to the left. The Zapruder film shows the explosion of the President’s head occurred to the right front part of his head with brain and skull fragments exiting the back of his head. The President’s brain checked into the National Archives in a metal box would show the trajectory of the bullet and resolve the matter but disappeared when attempts were made to examine it. Not signed out. The metal box is still there but no brain. The brain was listed on the inventory list when put into the National Archives. Why get rid of the brain if the shot came from the back. You don’t get rid of evidence that proves you are right. You get rid of evidence that proves the trajectory came from the grassy knoll.
My sister's mother in law was working at book depository that day. She was questioned by FBI. Love this topic. To me the simplest explanation is most likely true. But, what is it? 🧐
I use occams razor all the time for so many situations but this is so complicated I'm not sure occams razor is something you can really fall back on here. If it was occams razor theyd have just released the records already because the simplest thing is some random guy killed the president. I doubt that's case with all the secrecy 60 years later. One of the few times where it's likely actually pretty complicated
My brain says to me that when an assassin is murdered it is to shut him up.
Little known fact: Army Intelligence was in TX immediately after the shooting and recreated the shooting using both marksman and snipers. Lee Harvey Oswald was a trained marine marksman. Hoover then took over the entire investigation as the head of the FBI.
From what I have heard from original sources and read, Lee Harvey Oswald shot the President by mistake. He was aiming at the Governor of TX. As a marksman he aimed directly at the target which was moving, so his shots hit behind the target. A sniper aims where the target will be. (leading the target) Why? After Oswald left the Marines he went to the USSR and became a communist. He later grew tired of that ideology and returned to the US. While he was gone, his honorable discharge was changed to dishonorable because he defected. When he got back to the US, he couldn't hold down a job because he would get fired after the company checked his discharge status. He petitioned the Governor to fix his discharge and the Governor refused. Most of this info is readily available in military records, news clippings and interviews with Oswald's wife.
I think the conspiracy is that some three letter agency seized the opportunity and had Jack Ruby kill Oswald to make it look like a Presidential assassination instead of an accident while trying to murder the governor. This event went a long way to keeping us in Vietnam just like 9/11 led us to Iraq. I think that Ruby knew he was sick and they paid him to take out Oswald.
In reference to your belief Lee Oswald was only out to kill the Governor....the thing that doesn’t make that theory possible is the argument that occurred in the Hotel Texas in Fort Worth the night before the assassination... Lyndon Johnson was trying to change the seating arrangement for the motorcade through Dallas the next day...Lyndon Johnson wanted Governor John Connolly to ride with him and he wanted Senator Ralph Yarborough (his enemy) to ride in the president’s limousine....Malcolm Wallace, a man who had already murdered people for Johnson, and who was blind as a bat, may have been given inaccurate information about Yarborough being in the car with Kennedy...The people that Malcolm Wallace Killed for Johnson, like Douglass Kinser and Henry Marshall, were never more than a few feet away...The police did find a 7.65 German Mauser in the Book Depository...When you study the wounds it appears more likely that the Governor was shot with the 7.65 Mauser...the president’s head wound looks more like being shot with a higher velocity - smaller caliber FRANGIBLE bullet...Something like a .223 or .308 ....
There is a lot of Question That He scored as a semi good shooter " To the Editor:
William Manchester (letter, Feb. 5) announces: "I needed no authority to assess Lee Harvey Oswald's marksmanship. As a World War II Marine, I had qualified as an expert rifleman on the Parris Island, S.C., range. Oswald, a former Marine, had also qualified."
Now these sentences convey the impression, no doubt intended, that Oswald qualified as an expert rifleman. Evidence in the Warren Report, however, shows that Oswald barely qualified as a marksman, the lowest of the three Marine classifications of expert, sharpshooter and marksman. He scored 191 on a scale of 190 to 250.
Witnesses to Oswald's prowess on the firing range testified that his frequency of "Maggie's drawers" (complete misses of the entire target) was something of a joke. Oswald was a poor shot, and Mr. Manchester risks his credibility to pretend otherwise.
Mr. Manchester continues: "In Dallas he was equipped with a bolt-action, clip-fed, 6.5 Mannlicher-Carcano rifle and a four-power telescopic sight. His target -- the Presidential limousine -- was only 88 yards away from his sniper's nest. At that distance, with that scope, a trained marksman could scarcely miss."
The Mannlicher-Carcano was a cheap, old, unreliable make, known in the Italian Army as the "humanitarian rifle," on the ground that it could not hurt anyone on purpose. It was testified that the scope on the rifle was mounted for a left-handed user. Oswald was right-handed. Also, the sights were misaligned, and shims had to be inserted to aim properly.
The Warren Commission conducted simulated test firings, a pointless exercise as they took place after corrective adjustments of the scope and sights. Even so, none of the Olympic-class Army riflemen who participated in the tests were able to duplicate the alleged feat of Oswald in firing so rapidly and accurately.
Proponents of the Warren Commission have never clearly explained how it reached conclusions contrary to so much of the evidence it itself assembled. HUDSON HATCHER Bronxville, N.Y., Feb. 15, 1992 The writer qualified as an expert on the M1 rifle in the Army.
Because LHO was a spy for the US Government.
@@criticalevent There was a false defector program to gather intelligence.
Governors have no say so over military discharges. That’s all the department of defense. And if anything Kennedy was going to end all the wars. He was set to strike a deal with Khrushchev and Castro and Ho Chi Minh. And the military didn’t want that.
Why is there no talk of the German Mauser rifle, th-cam.com/video/nNXJufM2Ns0/w-d-xo.html, found with the Italian Carcano rifle at the sixth floor of the book depository.(youtube video). Also, I have an old video of damage to Kennedy's car showing bullet hole in the center of the dashboard.
Weird how his connection was breaking up everytime he made an important point. It's like the CIA is still at work covering this up
gay propaganda!! did u realize? in the i think 6th minute
This video is very frustrating to me. I was 13 when Kennedy assassinated and didn’t want to wait 50 years to hear the truth. We still don’t know the truth. Why??? And the bad connection on this video only frustrates me moe😡
I was also 13. In some ways I don’t think many of us fully recovered from Nov 22, 1963
is this guy on a mobile hotspot, missed important points while hes connection was down.
It was the CIA holding back the information. Lol
How has this not leaked yet
Does David know that Oswald emigrated to the USSR? What did he really do there? Does David know that Oswald was "allowed" back into the country? What was that about?
It's likely the USSR or Cuba was behind it.
Allowed is not exactly correct.. Oswald wrote dozens of letters to the State Dept over about 20 months, while living in the Soviet Union, almost begging he and his wife to be allowed to return..
@@jacobjones5269 his wife was Russian and never here in the first place.
The use of the word "emigrated" is incorrect. LHO was a US citizen.
@@gplito
Queue the Twilight Zone theme..
Everyone has the right to live and not be drugged.
When i see what republicans have become I believe we need another couple lee harveys
As a leftist I find your comment unhelpful. Both sides are bought