John F. Kennedy Jr.’s Last Flight Was Supposed to Be Simple 👨✈️ Air Disasters | Smithsonian Channel
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- It was supposed to be a simple coastal flight with good visibility, from the New York area to Martha’s Vineyard. But the Piper Saratoga piloted by John F. Kennedy Jr. on July 16, 1999 would never reach its destination.
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The voice overs in this video are 100% correct. Been there myself, but with complete training and ratings of commercial, multi-engine and instruments. His only hope was to stop looking around and lock onto those instruments.
Have ever really looked into this? You seem knowledgeable about procedures & about flying in general. There are so many red flags connected to this & JFK’s actions were not part of them. I’m not writing to draw you into an argument either, just a conversation.
@@thetruth72667 There is a saying of sorts among the flying community that says a pilot without an instrument rating has roughly 30 seconds to live if he flies into something he/she's not equipped to handle. This situation is one of those. He flew into the mist and the dark without any outside reference as to which way was up or down. He had two basic options at that point . . . 1) turn around so he could light from he coast (referred to and the classic 180 degree turn) or 2) be instrument rated. He did/was neither. Flying out over the ocean at dusk is particularly dangerous for a non-instrument rated pilot. Ocean mist and darkness and the horizon disappears and vertigo sets in within seconds leading shortly to a fatal crash, which is exactly what happened. A qualified instrument rated pilot would know to "get inside the aircraft," and to start flying by instruments only. He did not do that, according to this video. If I remember right, it was noted that he was taking IFR training, but that in no way says he was qualified for what he was attempting to do. It takes roughly 50 hours of training just to be able to force yourself to get you eyes inside and locked onto the instruments. It seems and feels counter intuitive to do this . . . after all, the horizon is "out there," not inside. But, for all practical purposes, when the horizon disappears, a pilot without proper training is usually doomed.
@@dickbudig6693 When he got to Martha's vineyard he made a pass over his mom's house like he always did then he completed his turn to line himself with the airport, stopping his descent at 2200 feet. Because it's against FAA regulations to fly below 2,500 ft without contacting the tower he brought the plane back up to 2,500 ft. At 9:39 he contacted the tower to let them know he was 13miles from the airport & 10miles out from the coast telling them he was on his final approach. He told them he was dropping off his wife's sister & would be taking off again for Hyannis Airport at 11-11:30pm. This was all said when he contacted the tower at 9:39. At 9:40 & 15sec the plane fell, nose dived, out of the sky falling 2,500 feet in 45sec. All this came directly from Coast Guard Petty Officer Todd Burgun!!!
This sounds like a case of a pilot not being instrument rated therefore he didn't know where he was & crashed? Even if that was the case, which it was not, but if it was why wasn't rescue sent out when he still had not landed 5min after he called in on his final approach? Is it not protocol to do so? Help wasn't sent out for 15hrs! There's also a very very good chance a co pilot was with him. Again I'm just asking cause you obviously know what your talking about & I like hearing it from all sides & your willing to just have a conversation unlike what usually happens on here lol.
@@dickbudig6693 I don't see how it takes anyone with brains 50 hours to realize if you can't see shit you should probably look at your artificial horizon and altimeter.
Me personally I’d never step foot as a pilot until I learned all my instruments inside and out
I actually watched this full episode a few days ago. Turns out one of JFK Jr's flight instructors offered to fly with him to his destination..but Jr declined that offer and wanted to fly himself...WOW if he had only said yes to that offer.
If his dad would of said yes for driving in a glass bullet proof top.
would it have made a difference? If the instruments didn’t work and he’s adjusting accordingly what change does another pilot make?
@@alexdennison6265 But the official NTSB report ruled this crash pilot error due to spacial disorientation...there was nothing wrong with the instruments. In fact JKF Jr wasn't even qualified to fly under instrument flight rules so there's no way he could have crashed based on the plane instruments. He was basically flying visually based on what was in front of him. So it would have made a huge difference if an experienced well-trained pilot was with him.
@@petematos4278 Nah, I think even if he did this, somebody would have just got him another way. He was clearly a wanted man, and his killer or killers were going to get him one way or another.
How your destiny changes with one wrongfully tragic decision
In JFK Jr's defense, this can happen to even a seasoned pilot and one error quickly turns into many. RIP
Flying is deadly, always has been.
Not likely, Idid. A seasoned IFR rated pilot would lock onto those instruments like a snapping turtle.
@@dickbudig6693 but in many cases due to spatial disorientation you don’t believe what your instruments are saying
@@cityplanner3063 That is why you get proper IFR training to realize, you cant trust what your body is telling you. You TRUST your instruments and fly by them. Been there done that.
@@dickbudig6693 Flight 19 had seasoned pilots and they got disorientated and crashed just like JFK Jr mind you they didn’t have the exact same internments and everything was not the same, the point is even seasoned trained pilots can get disorientated.
Nothing is simple when you are a inexperienced single pilot in a high performance piston aircraft in bad weather. All the worst combinations. Very bad judgment.
This video: He should have trusted the instruments rather than his senses
Other videos: They crashed because the pilot trusted the instruments rather than their senses
He had no sense.
Wonder if the instrument show the plane turn side.
Like the korean airlines
Happens, but if you're in the dark with no references.. you trust your instruments before your brain. Also there's are thousands of flights a day flying using instruments that land perfectly fine with no mechanical errors, if you repeated the same thing JFK Jr. did thousands of times a day, you'd have thousands dead.
Sometimes no matter what you do your fucked. Fly by instruments.
I have been in the same situation. In a spiral dive, pulling back on the controls does NOT make you go UP, but merely tightens the turn.........."Power back to idle to reduce rate of descent. Level wings using artificial horizon. PULL hard. Hope! When the little bird WELL into the blue, full power, trim as speed bleeds off." Very very terrifying. Seconds from death and killing a bunch of people on the ground. Only my RAF training saved my life. It was a privilege to serve with them. CAVU skies.
It’s like turning into a skid to stop it. Counter-intuitive but it’s what you are supposed to do. Same thing with pulling back on the controls when in a dive…..seems right but is wrong and makes it worse.
@@jackpow2004 Yes, it is stunning that pulling back does not work.....the noise deafening the altimeter unwinding in a blur; air speed increasing fast; engine revs rising like crazy......wanting to panic, but knowing that your death seconds away if you do........and afterwards, a massive warm feeling of knowing you faced death and did not flinch. My thanks to my superb RAF training. CAVU skies to you.
You are wise, experienced, and lucky.
@@schawnettarobinson8584 Very kind of you to say so. But, no, just try hard......in 1956 while visiting my Aunt/Uncle in Nairobi, Mau-mau sign everywhere. (chalk marks; stones on top of one another)....Aunt punched in face by staff next door; Police an hour away; Uncle goes for help and gives me (7!) his 9mm ready to fire; pulled sofa across corner, my 2 baby cousins on floor sleeping; gun so heavy I leaned it on back of couch and waited for them....they rushed in, saw the gun and rushed out!!!
My best wishes to you...."Mungu napenda Africa!" "God loves Africa!"
Glider training also helps ... When I finally got to take single engine training lessons in a Cessna 152 it scared the s..t out of my instructor doing my usual 60 degree banked turns.
Years later I noticed that I had reached my limit when flying my Piper Arrow II in marginal night conditions over the ocean and felt that I needed refresher training in unusual flight attitudes. The aerobatic instructor for the Zlin that I rented taught me all the necessary after he had introduced me how to use the parachute. Years later I learned that JFK junior had stopped by to get training with him at just about the same time.
In my first instrument training lesson I learned to say out loud, when entering instrument conditions "I am entering instrument conditions, I trust the instruments". I think this is the part that was missing.
RIP
John F. Kennedy Jr.
(1960-1999)
Carolyn Bessette-Kennedy
(1966-1999)
and
Lauren Bessette
(1964-1999)
This is so sad may they rest in peace🙏🏻❤
In my house we have a rule. Never ever fly with someone who doesn’t do it for a living. Period.
I remember it was speculated at the time that he may have been able to see lights onshore and attempted to navigate by them, unsuccessfully.
that NTSB ghost that popped up in the cockpit though... hahahhaha
He should of never been in hazy conditions in the first place. One the reasons VFR pilots aren’t allowed to fly into these sorta conditions
People overestimate themselves ....when they do they die
It has been claimed in other vids John accidentally switched the auto pilot off . This was the start of him losing control ..sound plausible.
R.I.P JFK Jr.
And his wife and daughter
@Smita Smee my bad but still r.i.p.
As a result of JFK Jr. all Student Pilots must have completed at least 5 hours Instrument Time (under the hood) before getting their Private Pilot's License.
:(
pfft 5 hours? 20 minimum is needed.
In my opinion, 5 hours sounds too short.
Politicians are exempt from that and other mandates
5hrs isn’t enough should be part of the entire time your working on your license. One should train both at night day and bad weather like the condition Kennedy flew in.
@@petematos4278 You need to be working on getting your Night Rating to fly at night and you need your Instrument Rating to fly in bad weather. Both are completely separate from your Private; and you need your Private first before getting those.
Excellently neat job guys!!
gee glad they added the screaming at the end. We needed that,
while watching the video, i fell asleep and woke to the sound of the passengers screaming. Would be so terrifying for the pilot and the passengers
I would crash if a ghost is sitting next to me
Not a pilot so I don't disagree with the experts that in this situation the thing to do is to trust the instruments to tell you how to fly the plane, but I think it's interesting that every pilot trying to simulate Sully's emergency landing on the Hudson River crashed it. There is something to be said for intuition meeting skill. Plus Captain Sully is just simply quite bad ass in my opinion.
The information on the crash came from the Pentagon. The Pentagon rarely ever investigates domestic aircrashes.
That was the 35th president John F Kennedy's son flying the plane.
You don’t say. How could we have possibly known that? lol
down to the sea ! Oh ! It is so bad 😣
This actor did amazing down to the voice. 😊
A classic example of a death spiral.
I’m filming a movie called “JFK Jr.” Right now. This video definitely helps me recreate that night. Thank you Smithsonian ❤😊
We just seen last year upload for backup present day.
They even got Christian Bale to play the pilot
Laughed
Put the auto pilot on!
The autopilot wouldn't engage in a spiral descent, it's all you when something goes wrong
Any flashpoint fans? Investigator reminds me of Sergio di Zio lol
That's because it is Sergio. Spike left the SRU, left Canada, and joined the NTSB in the US. 😂
When this happens, you stop looking out the window and trust your instruments. I've been in this situation before. It's terrifying. I have great sympathy for his situation
i watched this years ago in nat geo OMG
Makes no sense. If you can't see, you must go by your dash indicators. Why go against them? Makes no sense. Why would anyone do that?
Because your brain is telling you one thing and the instruments were telling him another. Apparently, he didn't have enough experience to focus solely on the instruments.
Well I imagine sheer panic sets in on top of the spatial disorientation and it can be hard to think clearly through panic, that’s why the many hours of training is so important to get accustomed to those feelings while relying on your instruments simultaneously
Is that a soviet style of gauge at 2:26 right there?
The Saratoga plane can only supply fuel through one tank of the two placed symmetrically in the wings. The operational book advises changing tanks every hour as that would load one wing with over 150lbs. inbalance He did not change tanks after one hour flight.
When he was on automatic pilot, that slight differential weight in the wings was corrected by the automatic system but when he went manual and tried to service other chores of flying, the aircraft banked to the right and pulling up in that state does not recover but tightens the spiral into the lower altitudes. Pushing the wrong digit on the radio frequency selection started the ball rolling.
VR goggles and digital ADI equipment might be a good technology. Ten years out?
In Australia we have a night VFR rating ..this is a minimum of 10 hours extra training after
qualifying as a Private Pilot. Even so, under the conditions John experience, he should have reconnected the auto pilot.
The guy who’s playing him is handsome! There should always be two people who can fly a plane in the front so while the other pilot is looking at the instruments, he can continue to fly.
That's the first thought that came in my head was that the actor is very good looking. 🙈
Harmon Walsh, but he reminds me of Patrick Bateman who's played by Christian Bale, heh.
I mean, no. There's hundreds of thousands of flights with solo pilots every year that don't crash. He just needed to be trust his instruments and training.
Pilots must rely on instruments (not what their senses feel)
2:33 LSD Effects ????????????????
Good to kinda know what happened 🧐
why they reupload?
Exactly.
Man. If that water impact was as shown, no wonder why they died instantly. Horrible. All because he let his ego win.
He was reckless,I'm sorry to say it ,reckless with the accident with his leg!!!!!😳
Huh?
Nonsense ?
He was in a leg or foot castt from an injury and may have diminished his ability to work the ailerons I think.
Только чувство ручки и самолёта!приборы на потом,только состояние двигателя и топливной системы!летали же раньше без приборов👍
Where can I watch the full episode
here this is
on TV
R.I.P good master jfk Jr
Not very smart, there’s a reason he had to take the BAR 3X
Ooh
bon document avec explications
mais se sont uniquement que des hypothèses !!!!!
JFK Jr. was the BEST out of ALL of them! I liked his Parents real well. That Family has really Suffered. I Pray his Heart was for Jesus ✝️🙏
Still is.
Horse maure, all the Kennedys were ....political power grabbers, whiskey running felons who worshiped the ALMIGHTY ..dollar and fame. Ted Kennedy was a cheat in law school and liar in politics. In short...typical democrats.
I'm sure it didn't take long to crash from everything I read. there probably wasn't much time before impact..... why he chose to go over the water instead of following the coast, a mystery I suppose....
the guy hear sounds like john when he's on the phone. 2:24 u can hear the simulator engines revving...imagine how scared they were knowing there going to die at any moment ... couldn't see the water...I remember the National Enquirer magazine had the headline
Carolyn saw John die
it's was ridiculous, they said she seen him die first when the plane hit the water. unbelievable what some magazines or whatnot said after the crash...they were all killed at the same time....oh and the Carolyn was pregnant thing...
David pecker from Hachette fillipachi who helped John start his magazine. left that position while John was alive to transfer to ceo of American media association or something like that they owned and put out the tabloid magazines, globe, nat.inquirer, star, etc.
why he would publish certain articles that were stupid about john when he was a friend of John's, anything to sell a magazine IMO...but when John heard he was leaving, John wrote him a nice letter wishing him all the best because John was a kind person.
Smithsonian institute. its brighter here,. wow quite an ad after this video of 3 ppl crashing into the water dying on impact, they really made it look like real footage of a plane crashing
You have to be clean of alcohol for 24 hours before flying the plane. I read about this crash in the newspaper. JFK Jr. was ill prepared for this flight because of the time of arrival. If he had a party to go to he should not have rushed over there in the middle of the night, as his instrument reading he didn't rely on them. Commercial airlines is out of Truro or Provincetown he should have hired a pilot.
His flight instructor offered to accompany him and John refused.
rip John F. Kennedy Jr😢😢😢😢😢
dude didnt his uncle die of a plane crash in Operation Amphordite ? or something along those linez? super weird this family keeps having repeated types of deaths .....
Joe died in the war flying a bomber.
I remember watching the news about what the hell happened to JFK Jr.
Here’s my question.. they said jfk jr was a pilot who wasn’t trained using the flights instruments which means he relies on what he sees and that navigates him on wherever he’s trying to fly too...here’s my question.... no disrespect to jfk jr so this is a overall general question... when you become a pilot how in the world can someone become a pilot and not be trained using the instruments in the cockpit??? You would think that’s the first thing you have to do becoming a pilot... the gauges, the instruments and pretty much everything in the cockpit.... in my opinion isn’t communication and being able to read what the cockpit is telling you the most important thing??? Everyone has seen what the cockpit looks like... buttons, lights, gauges, everywhere all over the place... how the hell can I become a pilot without learning the instruments??? Very bazaar too me
Valid point
Good question
JFK jr. flew VFR, that means visual flight rules and using outside reference points for 90% of the time. The other 10% is checking the instruments. Flying instruments (IFR) only is a whole other level, with no outside references.
@@dutchygirl Right.... can you learn 100% of the instruments and then go to outside visual or do you have to learn outside visual first and then instruments? Me personally I’d think about if I’m a visual pilot then things can alter the things you see outside.. like weather, night flying, fog
@@johead8516 Every student learns to fly VFR with outside reference points first. Off course you do your flight preparation to know if there are visual meteorological conditions on your route and for the time that you planned to fly. There can be many reasons to cancel a VFR flight as it comes to safety/changing weather. Night flying could be IFR (on instruments), but also visual (than it's called night-VFR).
The Kennedy family isn’t having a fun time with life
Trusting the seat of your pants and inner ear instead of the instruments has got more than one pilot killed.
Plane crash 🚀
The auto pilot needs to be turned when your in level flight or in a shallow turn. That is before he would get into unusual attitudes.
Ich
Radio not in frequency and fuel tank unbalanced he not experienced.
Les Kennedy c'est la tragédie du destin , la volonté du seigneur de l'univers 😂😂 rip .Une brave et merveilleuse famille !
Died so young.RIP
rip jfk
JFK Jr. Just tried to soon.
All speculation, no one knows what really happened. Well someone does.
He’s not dead he is going to be Vice President.
I hope you’re just joking
@@sunnyfon9065 of course I am.
Thankyou CIA 🙂
He was irresponsible and arrogant.
Amogus
sussy
Jesus
What is this comment even for lol
Sussy baka
the Kennedy curse
Same thing that killed Kobe Bryant and everyone aboard the helicopter.
There were reports of this hazy condition despite the reports of clear weather
It would have been a simple flight if he wasn’t leading HRC for NY Senate by 35 points. It’s hard to stay oriented when they never found your right wing.
i live on the island, and was here when it happened. it was terrible because it was the shark tournament that weekend, so they had just chummed the waters to attract them (i never heard this mentioned or read it anywhere..). also, Jackie O was living right near where he crashed and while she was waiting for word, stuff was washing up on her beach. horrible. my step-father was a cop in Gay Head where this happened, and it was grim. pretty awful. clearly, he should never have made that trip alone, in the dark, with an injury. hope Carloline enjoyed what she got at the shops that made them 2 hours late. otherwise, this probably never would have happened because it would have been light out.
Jackie O died several years before this crash.
Nice story - but a lie. Jackie died 5 years before the crash.
John is an excellent pilot and much more experienced than this video gives him credit for.
naw he's alive and coming to office with trump in 2069 🥴
Nope 2070 when he is 150 and will come out of hiding.
Lol
L.. 😔
Fa
Legit 2 People in the JFK family were shot President John F Kennedy and Robert F Kennedy now John F Kennedy Jr We all hope their lives were for Jesus
It all bull his pop his uncle and now him . All dead.. something fishy here...
Every freaking mainstream media said he had no copilot. Those who saw them leave saw his pilot with him
So many wanna be pilots and armchair pilots is just too funny.
He was suppose to leave earlier in the day, but rumor has it that his coke dealer was running late.
supposed
Carolyn bessette was having her hair done and was late.
Didn't know this happends to JFK Jr and his wife and kid. But what I directly think: of course this wasn't an accident. 😉
lol
Accident? JFK jr had no experience flying in the dark. His arrogance caused the death of himself, his wife and her sister.
He was going to run for Daniel Monihan's empty senate seat and which he would of won easily going against his mother's fears for public office. He named his magazine George. Many people believe George HW was in the picture on the steps of the Dallas school book depository on 11/23/63. When John's plane crashed W Bush was absent from his presidential campaign for three days. Fact. Nobody knew where he was. Fact. Hillary moved to New York and filled the empty seat and became the senator from New York. Fact. It's been 60 years and they still will not release thousands of documents of his father's murder The only thing after all this time they could be protecting is the truth. Robert Kennedy was going to reopen the investigation of his brother's murder after the win in California and almost certain road to the presidency until he went through the kitchen of the Ambassador hotel. Also a lot of artifacts that don't fit the official narrative of human history disappear in the depths of the Smithsonian.
It all makes so much more sense once you realize that John wasn't the walrus, George was.
ONE WORD: SABOTAGE.
Dang. This Kennedy Curse really has no chill. 💀
What really happened may be politically motivated.
Not hardly.
Spacial disorientation, that's hilarious.
His wife was sitting beside him according to actual report. And he was about to reveal he was getting a divorce. And this video doesn't show that
Moi j'ai toujours pensé qu'ils s'étaient disputer violemment dans l'avion et que c'est du a ça qu'ils ont accident.ils se sont battu.
@@brigittecaillol4181 QUE PASO! Mi No comprehendo ESPANOLA. NECCESSITO Traduzca esta texto en Ingles.
Hillary Clinton.
Nothing to do with it. People might hate her, but in this case it was pilot error nothing more nothing less. Dream up all the conspiracy you want, in this case she had nothing to do with it. Seth Rich…Different story.
Not this time.
JFK jr flew the plane! He promised his sister never to fly without a flight instructor. But when he was offered one, he declined and decided to fly alone. His arrogance caused the crash!
According to the cell phone records there was a flight instructor on the plane. That's who they were waiting for at the airport for 45 min. . His was the seat that was removed from the plane crash along with his body & other items during the 15.5 hours it supposedly took to locate the plane even though the N-tap was on point they sent search planes way off course to waste time so they can retrieve the flight instructor & his seat then set the auto fuel tanks to off, etc. 15.5 hours the Govt deliberately wasted to conceal the evidence & remove the flight recorder box as well. All the phone calls made to authorities, FAA, Coast Guard, etc are time stamped yet nothing was done for 15.5 hours to attempt to locate the plane in the area even though the radar showed exactly where it went down. See " Dark Legacy II." How did one seat break away from the entire crash site while the other 3 passengers were found strapped in theirs under water at the site? They wanted him dead because he was revealing the "swamp" with "George" magazine among other reasons.
This video is fake
JFK Jr , his wife Carolyn and sister in law Lauren did not die in the crash.
JFK jr,his wife Carolyn and her sister Lauren all died in the crash. They were found and identified.
SOUNDS more like a mob hit 🤔