What is Messianic Judaism? What do Messianic Jews believe? w/ Rabbi Jason Sobel - Podcast Episode 78
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- To what degree, if at all, should Jewish and Gentile followers of Jesus Christ be distinct? Should Christians celebrate the Jewish holidays? What are the keys to sharing the gospel of Jesus Christ with Jews? Why do most Jews still reject Jesus as Messiah? An interview with Rabbi Jason Sobel.
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Shalom thank you and peace be with you. Much love to you from Bulgaria
Blown away by the testimony...he could see clearly the Jewishness of Christ's work of Salvation. ❤️
@24 minutes you have me in tears!! I had a very supernatural experience, that from one day to the next had me at the book store buying the Torah (grew up Catholic ) , learning all things about Jesus and who he was before his resurrection and what they didn’t teach in bible sturdy, I am so blessed to have found this video! ❤❤❤
@violet's place explain further.
I'm so happy to find messianic Judaism. I have always been interested in Judaism because Jesus was a Jew and followed Judaism and loved his faith and his people! Never went to a synagogue because I'm a white Christian woman. However I've had issue with the Christian faith because Jesus did not intend to create a new religion and it is so heavily influenced by Roman's and pagans to pull people in. Big issues for me was changing the sabbath to Sunday. So no religion has felt 100% right. I'm so excited cause this feels so right. I feel being a non Jew I will still be welcomed to learn and love and worship as Jesus did and as Jesus is calling me to!
Excellently stated. It feels other religions are missing alot.
@@carchick7545 Excellent false witness! Don't you people understand Jewish history? The history of the Tanakh and New Testament???!!!
Christianity is NOT a "new faith." The "new apostate faith" is actually rabbinical Judaism, created by the pharisees after the destruction of the temple in 70 AD. There is no oral torah in the Tanakh.
The New Testament is 100% pure Judaism, and *Messianic Jews believe in the New Testament,* and iconsider it just as inspired as the Tanakh. So where is this "new" religion this person speaks of? No where.
There is NO difference THEOLOGICALLY between Christianity and Messianic Judaism. None whatsoever. As a matter of fact, when the Jews finally recognize Him "whom they have pierced," Christians and Messianic Jews become one big family. And I'm not saying that Messianic Jews "convert" to Christianity. They do not. They remain just as "Jewish" as they always were. They merge theologically. Under Yeshua.
Even Messianic Jews will tell you that. They also call themselves "Christians" in the sense that "Christian" just means "Christ Follower." Simple as that.
The New Testament was not influenced by "pagans and Romans." That is so false! The New Testament was written ENTIRELY BY Jews, FOR Jews and ABOUT Jews. Period. The New Testament is 100% pure Judaism, the seamless continuation and fulfillment of the Tanakh. Again, even Messianic Jews will tell you this and they believe wholeheartedly in the New Testament.
So where is this "pagan" religion you speak of? No where.
The person you SHOULD be identifying with is RUTH. A GENTILE who accepted Judaism and is even the GENTILE ancestor of King David and Yeshua Himself!
Except that Christianity is NOT a "new faith." The "new apostate faith" is actually rabbinical Judaism, created by the pharisees after the destruction of the temple in 70 AD. There is no oral torah in the Tanakh.
The New Testament is 100% pure Judaism, and Messianic Jews believe in the New Testament, and it is just as inspired as the Tanakh. So where is this "new" religion this person speaks of? No where.
There is NO difference THEOLOGICALLY between Christianity and Messianic Judaism. None whatsoever. As a matter of fact, when the Jews finally recognize Him "whom they have pierced," Christians and Messianic Jews become one big family. And I'm not saying that Messianic Jews "convert" to Christianity. They do not. They remain just as "Jewish" as they always were. They merge theologically. Under Yeshua.
Even Messianic Jews will tell you that. They also call themselves "Christians" in the sense that "Christian" just means "Christ Follower." Simple as that.
The New Testament was not influenced by "pagans and Romans." That is so false! The New Testament was written ENTIRELY BY Jews, FOR Jews and ABOUT Jews. Period. The New Testament is 100% pure Judaism, the seamless continuation and fulfillment of the Tanakh. Again, even Messianic Jews will tell you this and they believe wholeheartedly in the New Testament.
So where is this "pagan" religion you speak of? No where.
The person you SHOULD be identifying with is RUTH. A GENTILE who accepted Judaism and is even the GENTILE ancestor of King David and Yeshua Himself!
Think about that. Selah. Shalom Shalom!
This is exactly how I feel... Pray with me please that I will find this place to be and worship in my life's calling. Praise be to God, thank You.
I only recently found out, a few years ago, that I have some Jewish ancestry. Prior to this, however, I had encountered the idea of Messianic Judaism. From that day until today, I had ALWAYS been super-excited about them...A Jewish believer is so awesome to me...
I also found Ashkenazi Jewish ancestry
I called myself a Christian but the holy spirit led me to the same teachings messianic Jews believe. So I am learning slowly and surely everything you dear brothers have to teach me. It is a ten almost 11 year journey but I am finally getting fed and I finally getting the full picture
I am a Christian, also grew up in New Jersey, and I've seen no difference THEOLOGICALLY between Christianity and Messianic Judaism. The first "Christians" WERE the Messianic Jews. The "Nazarenes." What is fascinating is the HISTORY of Messianic Judaism/Christianity and Rabbinical Judaism. And how the festivals and traditional holidays (ie; Easter vs Passover) split.
Messianic Jews do NOT "convert" to Christianity. On the contrary, they profess to become MORE Jewish after finding their 100% Jewish Messiah. They continue to go to synagogue, celebrate the traditional Jewish feasts, etc. They REMAIN 100% Jewish and practice JUDAISM. Christians don't have the same *personal connection,* obviously, but Christians still practice the same Messianic Judaism, just with some cultural differences. But not theological differences. It's truly fascinating.
It was the nation of Israel that God decided to give birth to from Abraham and Sarah's descendants. Salvation came out of Zion. It's the most unique culture in the world because GOD created the nation of Israel. The Gentiles come from a different cultural background.
But from **Messianic Judaism/Christianity** comes the "oneness" spoken of in the Tanakh, where all will worship the SAME, ONE TRUE GOD and Yeshua someday. In Messianic Judaism/Christianity, we all become ONE FAMILY.
Where we come from really doesn't matter to God in terms of salvation. All are God's children, Jew and Gentile alike. Especially when you consider the fact that Abraham and Sarah WERE GENTILES, as were Isaac and Jacob (later to become Israel). And Gentiles have always been "grafted in." One of the most prominent ancestors of King David and the Messianic line is RUTH, a Moabite GENTILE. An entire book is dedicated to her.
I guess that I, as a Gentile, identify completely WITH RUTH. 🙂 Ruth's story pretty much sums up my views.
So we are ALL ONE in Christianity/Messianic Judaism, no matter what our ethnic background. Shalom! Shalom!
@@stoirmz big difference. You people disobey the torah we don't.
@@stoirmz there is a big difference.
@@stoirmz Easter is pagan trash so as Xmas holloween etc. God calls us to be holy and separate. Jubilee is talking about people like you. Especially ch 1
He explained this so much better than other teachers I have heard. Far more simply. The end story about the pig make me have cold chills 🐖
23:35: WOW!!! The Way he just associated those was just....WOW!
I cannot love Rabbi Jason's teaching in this video anymore!! I have learned more from him than a lifetime of Catholic and Methodist upbringing 🤙🥰✌️ Thank you!! 💕
I've been on a spiritual journey for a couple years now. Trying to find answers to questions, and every answer that I get poses 3 more questions. The biggest problem for me has been reconciling the present day existence of the Jewish faith and Christianity. What is the right way? Am I not living the way im supposed to? And through it all, I've had this feeling that the Jewish people are our closest allies, our brothers at the very least. But this tells me that we aren't brothers, instead WE are one in the same.
As one who is a part of the Messianic movement and has faced similar challenges within my own understanding I would love to discuss that with you 👍🏼. From what I have observed throughout history is that the Jewish religion added to the Torah or God's instructions. Yeshua faced this religious dogma head on while on this earth. He directed the religious elites, who had misused their authority, back to Torah which is what I believe Yeshua intended for us as believers today Jew and non Jew. One body within spiritual Israel. That being said the Western Gentile church today has misplaced the importance of Torah in one's life. I heard it explained once like this "The Jews added whereas the Gentiles took".
Great insight about the Prodigal in the pig pen.
25:55: This rabbi is mad intelligent...
Jesus CLEARLY declared all things clean. Messianics are most confused people on earth.
Jesus is the fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy.
Thank you for this, having a Jewish brother in Christ makes me very excited, I love Jews, as a gentile I am very thankful for our King and Savior 🥰 tha Lion of Juda hu is worthy to open the book , and Seals 🙌 Rev 5 praying for more Jews and gentile to believe on him 🙏 ❤
Oh wow..I have been wondering this..and here it is..Praise GOD ALMIGHTY..FATHER,SON,JESUS CHRIST...
As a gentile Christian, I never know Jews are anti-Christ until I went to Israel. But Roman 11 gives me comfort to the eventual outcome of God’s plan and purposes.
Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
We’re not anti christ, we just don’t accept him as the messiah. Please don’t paint us with the same brush as a few ultra orthodox nutters
@@rosspatterson1233. Who is your messiah to come that was prophesied in the Hebrew Bible?
@@andywong9847 well we know the messiah will be a descendent of king David, not the son of god.
@@rosspatterson1233 . Good, but you are looking for a messiah to the earthly kingdom. Read Psalm 22, Isaiah 53.
All New Testament writers were Jews except Luke.
@@andywong9847 that’s right, the messiah of course be a human so they will be earthly. I’m not disputing the Jewishness of early Christians since a lot were from Judaea. Of course Jesus himself was a Jew, this isn’t disputed by me. I believe Jesus was a real person. There’s a lot of proof he existed, but there’s no way he could be the messiah. I respect your opinion, we just don’t share it. But your original comment was that we are anti christ. This isn’t true for most of us. We either don’t believe in him, or we just don’t think he was the messiah. No hatred at all
7:57: This is something I've never known... It's awesome.
All I could say about this is we Gentiles are GRAFTED to the Jewish faith as a WILD Olive, but I think we arent OBLIGATED to follow the Jewish traditions as mandated by Messianic because thise were meant SPECIFICALLY made for Jews.
So we NEED to apply the Romans 14 principle.
As long as we have the MAIN ESSENTIALS of Christianity, then we are all in ONE body of Christ.
If I being a gentile end up following the traditions and laws of Messianic Jew, i'd FAIL misserably. As I dont have ALL understanding of being a Jew.
And for a Jew to become a Christian, its an AMAZING privilege, because that person is now COMPLETE in Christ which a gentile may not have the opportunity.
It truly gives a DEEP meaning if being grafted as an Wild Olive branch for a gentile.
Absolutely loved this, made so much sense tying the Old Testament & New Testament together & how Christianity is so steeped in Jewish history 🙏🏼💫
Good explanation, I appreciate it.😊 thanks
Thank you Rabbi
Thank you! Well clarified and done in wisdom and love
Well put, I love the comments from Abrahambridges
God’s love letter to YOU
You may not know Me, but I know everything about you.
Psalm 139:1
I know when you sit down and I know when you rise up.
Psalm 139:2
I AM familiar with all your ways.
Psalm 139:3
Even the very hairs on your head are numbered.
Matthew 10:29-31
For you were made in My image.
Genesis 1:27
In Me you live and move and have your being.
Acts 17:28
For you are My offspring.
Acts: 17:28
I knew you even before you were conceived.
Jeremiah 1:4-5
I chose you when I planned creation.
Ephesians 1:11-12
You are not a mistake, for all your days are
written in My book.
Psalms 139:15-16
I determined the exact time of your birth and where you would live.
Acts 17:26
You are fearfully and wonderfully made.
Psalms 139:14
I knit you together in your mother’s womb.
Psalm 139:13
And brought you forth on the day you were born.
Psalm 71:6
I have been misrepresented by those who don’t know me.
John 8:41-44
I AM not distant and angry, but I AM the complete expression of love.
1 John 4:16
And it is My desire to lavish My love on you.
1 John 3:1
Simply because you are My child and I AM your father.
1 John 3:1
I offer you more than your earthly father ever could.
Matthew 7:11
For I AM the perfect father.
Matthew 5:48
Every good gift that you receive comes from My hand.
James 1:17
For I AM your provider and I meet all of your needs.
Matthew 6:31-33
My plan for your future has always been filled with hope.
Jeremiah 29:11
Because I love you with an everlasting love.
Jeremiah 31:3
My thoughts toward you are countless as the sand on the seashore.
Psalm 139:17-18
And I rejoice over you with singing.
Zephaniah 3:17
I will never stop doing good to you.
Jeremiah 32:40
For you are MY treasured possession.
Exodus 19:5
I desire to establish you with all My heart and all My soul.
Jeremiah 32:41
And I want to show you great and marvelous things.
Jeremiah 33:3
If you seek Me with all your heart, you will find Me.
Deuteronomy 4:29
Delight in Me and I will give you the desires of your heart.
Psalm 37:4
For it was I who gave you those desires.
Philippians 2:13
I AM able to do more for you than you could possibly imagine.
Ephesians 3:20
For I AM your greatest encourager.
2 Thessalonians 2: 16-17
I AM also the father who comforts you in all your troubles.
2 Corinthians 1:3-4
When you are broken hearted, I AM close to you.
Psalm 34:18
As a shepherd carries a lamb, I have carried you close to My heart.
Isaiah 40:11
One day I will wipe away every tear from your eyes.
Revelation 21:3-4
And I will take away all the pain you have suffered on this earth.
Revelation 21:3-4
I AM your father, and I love you even as I love My Son Jesus.
John 17:23
For in Jesus, My love for you is revealed.
John 17:26
He is the exact representation of My being.
Hebrews 1:3
He came to demonstrate that I AM for you, not against you.
Romans 8:31
And to tell you that I AM not counting your sins.
2 Corinthians 5:18-19
Jesus died so that you and I could be reconciled.
2 Corinthians 5:18-19
His death was My ultimate expression of My love for you.
1 John 4:10
I gave up everything I love that I might gain your love.
Romans 8:31-32
If you receive the gift of my Son Jesus, you receive Me.
1John 2:23
And nothing will ever separate you from My love again.
Romans 8 38-39
COME HOME AND I WILL THROW THE BIGGEST PARTY HEAVEN HAS EVER SEEN!!!!
Like 15:7
I have always been Father and will always be Father.
Ephesians 3:14-15
My question is….. Will you be My child?
John 1 :12-13
I AM WAITING FOR YOU
Luke 15: 11-32
GOD BLESS YOU
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To all the Gentiles who’ve become arrogant, do not forget you have come up to the Mountain of the LORD [in one sense] to whom? The God of Jacob. The God of Israel. To their God and their Messiah. When Yeshua ushers in His Kingdom, Israel will play a role of prominence [Isaiah 60:12] and spiritual leadership over the nations [Isaiah 2:2-5, Zech 8:23] mediating that blessing to the world.
In those days, Rabbinic Judaism and Messianic both agree that Messiah will bring a new Torah, and we shall all walk in the light of the LORD. The believers in Yeshua will be crowned with immortality and an inheritance along with the Jews who are saved. And we shall see a millennium of righteousness, peace and harmony between the nations.
So lest we become arrogant, remember these two passages:
Ephesians 2:11-13
“Therefore, keep in mind that once you-Gentiles in the flesh-were called “uncircumcision” by those called “circumcision” (which is performed on flesh by hand). At that time you were separate from Messiah, excluded from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. But now in Messiah Yeshua, you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of the Messiah.”
And Romans 11:17-26
“But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive, were grafted in among them and became partaker with them of the rich root of the olive tree, do not be arrogant toward the branches; but if you are arrogant, remember that it is not you who supports the root, but the root supports you. You will say then, “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in.” Quite right, they were broken off for their unbelief, but you stand by your faith. Do not be conceited, but fear; for if God did not spare the natural branches, He will not spare you, either. Behold then the kindness and severity of God; to those who fell, severity, but to you, God’s kindness, if you continue in His kindness; otherwise you also will be cut off. And they also, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these who are the natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree? For I do not want you, brethren, to be uninformed of this mystery-so that you will not be wise in your own estimation-that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; and so all Israel will be saved”
Peace be among us brothers and sisters!
[I am a gentile in the flesh]
I want to celebrate the feast days
I really feel that Messianic is the closest thing to what Jesus was teaching and what the early Christians spoke of. I dont believe any other comes as close. There seems to feel something missing in other groups.
Thank you for sharing your understanding; I object to you saying the weekly Sabbath was given to the Israelites.
The Lord God created the Sabbath at the time of Creation, long before the Ten Commandments were given, and long before Israel came into being.
All glory be to God now and forever!
Hashem ehad and so, in Him, are we! Shalom
Thanks Rabbi! Appreciate your time and experience!
I have a question, Rabbi. How do you respond to the chapter on head covering, mentioned in 1Cor 11: 1-16.
When did they open up the comment section?
@@kiavaxxaskew Cool!
The first shall be last and the last shall be first.
Matthew 23-8
Well the word... the law. If u receive my Commandments, God tells us, we will be holy indeed, that you have not broken my Covenant. This is what the Rabbis will tell, mng hagaddah, to tell. Jews r born into their living religeon. Praise to the Lord most of all we know who He izz. Many have not broken their Covenant with God. Bless them, seed of Abraham.
The inheritance is from the Torah of Abraham as Jesus is the seed, not the amendment given to Moses, whose polity was only about condemnation due to sin.
23:42…..Oh my gaaaaaahhhh🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
My daughter became a Messianic Jew when she met her husband who grew up Jewish and later converted. My concern with many of the Messianic Jews is their tendency towards legalism. As a Christian the law was fulfilled in Christ and we are held to a higher standard in our own life but not try to force it on others. The spirit leads each of into his knowledge through the word.
@@martykropf421
Jesus said "it is finished" on the cross, not finished when I return. Jesus and the aposltles/disciples were Jewish so under Jewish law until his death. You neglect the rest of the New Testament. In Acts, the question of circumcision came up and determined it was not necessary to become a Christian. Paul admonished Peter when he separated himself from the gentiles when the Judaisers showed up, probably eating bacon with the gentiles. In Romans Paul presents the law as fundamentally flawed because of our inability to follow it. Without Christ we are under law which we can't follow, under Christ he leads us into true righteousness. If you are Jewish and you wish to follow Torah just know you can't, you will fail in one point therefore fail in all. The difference with the legalistic is asserting I am not Christian if I don't go to church on Friday after 6 and until Saturday until 6 which seems to be a big point of contention. I would contend that going to church, synagogue is breaking the sabbath in multiple ways. Interested in your view but do take issue with at least what I know of it.
@@martykropf421
The Torah is not eternal, God's word is eternal. It seems you choose to worship Torah over God's word. Please reread all I wrote because I think you miss the point. We do not worship Paul and you bring up Constantine as a straw man while not knowing church history. Paul was 1st century and was acknowledged by Christians including Peter and others. Did Peter worship Paul, NO. Constantine was 4th century and many heresies had occurred before then. Paul declared that he should not be worshipped and his writings are the root of Christianity. I do not think you worship Torah though there are those that do. Worship Christ but worship him in truth not with Old Testament legalism.
@@martykropf421 why do judaizers want to enslave gentiles to the law ??? Have you not read Galatians or Romans ???
@@martykropf421 you are wrong sir and good luck trying to earn salvation by the law because you will perish into the eternal lake of fires ,Jesus said that loving ones neighbor fulfills the law and by loving your neighbor you're not gonna commit adultery,steal,lie,covet or any other commandments falls into that category.Know your bible marty is not enough to obey the letter of the law you need the grace of God and be born again .
@@martykropf421 have you been born again or are you trying to earn your salvation by works of the law which by the way no flesh shall be justified!
A Jewish follower of Jesus ? I didn't know that was a thing! How fascinating.
Where does it say that?
Jewish and Jesus makes sense. Ty
How do I find a Messianic congregación near me? I live in Houston Texas thank
I searched for a Messianic congregation on maps-easy to do. I visited the next Sabbath (Saturday). I met one Jew; most of the others I talked to were pentecostal. I would visit again but it's a very long distance from my home.
Congregation Beth Messiah, 9001 w. Airport Blvd, Houston
City on the Hill Messianic Community, 19814 Atascosita Shores
Humble Texas 77346
I’m familiar with Messianic Judaism. I’m also Jewish. I don’t feel that the Messianic Jewish movement exemplifies the the eschatological church.
Jesus completed the Revelation, he didn't bring a different faith, but the fulfillment of the True religion that was always the same. So why would you think that just being a Christian is not honoring the old covenant? He wanted us to spread the Gospel and not Judaism (obviously not the same thing)
How do I find a messianic congregation near me? How do I get the Bible they use?
TLV(tree of life version), another popular one is CJB(complete jewish bible) that one is confusing to alot of people so I'd go with TLV 😊
It's not was goes into a person that defiles them it's what comes out of them
Being vegetarian is very important that Jesus spoke about. I fish for men not fish. Jesus teaching was to be vegetarian.
Why is it that we find most believing Christians that have almost the same story, they had an empty spiritual life and they found Jesus, but you would never find an Orthodox Jew, saying he was unhappy with Judaism and found Jesus?
They usually keep it to themselves. It's a different world in the Middle East and the Honor/Shame system still applies.
Shunning, excommunication, and violence still happens when a Jew discovers his King. So it's kept a secret.
Genesis 12:3, God's Timeless Blessings.
Genesis 12:2 is an interesting fact.
Genesis 12:4 counts Abram as 75 years old, and Genesis 12:3 is when " I will bless them that bless you and curse he that curses you and in thee shall all the families of the earth be blessed. "
From anyone of those time points, it's close to 1900 centuries, beginning with Genesis 12:1 to Jesus Christ and Paul in Galatians 3:8, where he's admonishing the bewitched Galatians around year 62 a.d.
Fast forward to 1983, when the late great Rabbi Yechiel Eckstein, began proclaiming his ministry on Genesis 12:3 and the Isaiah 58 promises.
Prophetically speaking, that 1900 centuries to 1900 centuries seems too parallel close to not being a God timed occurrence.
Another small similarity, Abraham lived right off the road from the ancient King's Highway root that connected the cultural worlds of his day.
Then arrives Rabbi Yechiel Eckstein who soon began proclaiming his ministry through the Christian Television broadcast system that crisscrossed the world cultures of our day.
Just an acknowledgement for today.
God bless you on your journey!!!
I am an Orthodox, Jew I wonder do people actually have to convert to messianic judaism?
XMas? December 25, is Nemrod's birthday, not the Messah's! And you guys don't know that??? Don't know the difference between the truth and a pagan unholday!? Bye!
Messiah birthday -Ethanim 15
Day of death -abib 14
@@user-im1sh4qe8t Nisan 14...
That is what you want to focus on?
@@teenmomAT14toRN it's actually a really big deal sister. God honors All covenants. Those beliefs are pagan gods. If we celebrate it ...it becomes a covenant because we agree. 😢 God said if we worship or go to idols and worship them he would bring curses back from our generations. When you can please listen to pastor kevin la ewing on the subject. He stays directly in the word to explain in depth.
Habakkuk 2:4
I have a doubt. Do Messianic Jews believe in Trinity? Father, Son and Holy Spirit?
Yes, they do believe in the Triune God.
Yes.
Yes
Which Gentile women were in the line of Jesus ?
Question... Are these the Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 Jews of the Bible?
No it specifcaly states in the verses : they say they are Jews but *they are not* in these specific churches.
Behold, I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews and *are not* , but lie-I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and make them know that I have loved you.
@Cosmin C he is speaking to crowd of gentiles in both churches .
Nope.
According to Jewish Law, when the Jewish Moshiach comes, are there any consequences for a Jew NOT accepting him as Moshiach? Are there any consequences for a Gentile NOT accepting him as Moshiach?
A Baptist with a yarmulke
Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf. 1 Peter 4:16
In my opinion “Messianic Jews” are trying to avoid the reproach of their fellow countrymen by not bearing the name of Christ. They are ashamed to be called Christian and they divide the body of Christ, building up the middle wall of partition that Christ removed when he made of the two one new man as Ephesians says.
Exactly and these "Messianics" are also what Jesus called "Judaizers"
@@licht300 - Cultic Psycho Babble is all you know.
@@licht300 - Thank you, and same to you
I’m aware of what Christ means. It’s the fact that they refuse to be called Christian even though that’s what we have been called since the book of Acts was written. They are ashamed of the name. They want to separate themselves from the rest of the church.
The New Testament was written in Greek so why not just use the name that the New Testament gives the church? God promised to call his servants by a new name in Isaiah 65. This is the fulfillment. I also do think that many want to still try to be Jews so that they won’t be persecuted by family or countryman for believing in Jesus.
Do Messianic Jews believe that Yeshua is God? Do they believe in the Trinity doctrine?
Yes
@@alkaseltzer8437 do they base this on the testimony of Jesus or on the teachings of his followers? And if on the testimony of Jesus, could you please provide verse reference?
@@AbrahamsBridges Shalom. In simple terms the Bible is Holy/complete from Genesis to Revelation, and the Word is God. Scripture to study about "God of Abraham, Jacob, Issac," Yeshua/Jesus, and the Ruach ha-Kodesh/Holy Spirit are Genesis 1:26(*US), Matthew 3:13-17(*16) ; 17:1-8(*5) ; Acts 21:20. I hope you find peace in Him.
Not all believe the trinity doctrine. Probably most of them though.
Not all do. I consider myself a Messianic Jew but I do not believe in the divine nature of Jesus. Jesus is the Messiah. He is holy which means set apart for God, but he was sent here to show us the way to the Father. He did have the Holy Spirit inside him but that did not make him God.
okay so let me explain, Messianic Jews are Christians who realized that in order to fulfill the prophecy of bringing all Jews to God, they must convert all Jews! Now, what happened is that Christians realized Jews were not responding to open missionaries since it was too obvious. So they needed a way to make Jews more responsive to the teaching of Christ. They figured out that saying Messianic Jew (or fulfilled jew) instead of saying a Christian made it easier for Jews to connect with them and listen to the teachings of christ. So these christians who call themselves messianic jews changed their language to sound less threatening and took on the old Testament customs so they can better get into the minds of Jews for the purpose of bringing them to Jesus. This rabbi doesn't want to say it directly but the goal of the Messianic movement is to convert Jews to Christianity. They discovered acting like Jews and dressing like jews in order to make jews trust them helped convert more jews so they blurred the lines between Jewish and Christian which makes it so much easier to convert a jew. Every christian reading this with doubts, the messianic movement believes exactly what you believe but puts a more jewish flavor to it to help "real" jews trust them and come to Christ. Please explain to me if I am correct, rabbi?
Lol girl, ain’t nobody checking for Jews like that 🙄. If anything Christians want the world to come to Christ not Jews only. Jesus is a Jew, so were His first followers
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I don't believe like that. These kind of Movement, pretty much Pre-Messianic judaism itself. It's already exist, in a form of early Christianity
"It takes Jew and Gentile to birth the Kingdom of God on Earth as it is in Heaven"????
Who said WE "birth the Kingdom of God"
Yashua Messiah birthday -Ethanim 15.. not Christmas.
Day of death -abib-14 ..not good Friday.
I am a member of the spiritual Israel of God. Not a Gentile, not a Jew, but a new creation.
Galatians 4:9-11 KJV
But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, *_how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?_*
[10] *_Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years._*
[11] *_I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain._*
One problem I have trouble understanding here is what Jason Sobel is saying about pork. Pigs are not meant to be food, they are unclean on the inside and out. While I believe that all animals will be accepted into heaven there won't be any eating of animal protein at all after, so while we are here on earth we need to eat clean animals, not dirty ones. I am disappointed in Jason Sobel's response to his question about bacon.
Is that the only issue you have? Animals don't get accepted into heaven.
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Seriously? Jason Sobel? You may want to take a closer look..
I’m not a troll, just a believing grandma who has spent time researching new age Christianity and used to send her kids to your website for answers to questions. I’m praying this was an oversight.
Whats wrong with him?
A messianic Jew in this sense is a very confused Jew. The Messiah will bring world peace, not turn the world against the Jewish people. He has yet to come.
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3- 7-23 Jesus) YESHUA EMMANU-EL told me to tell you whom is speaking in this video these words: “I will be with thee when the Earth becomes dark.”
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HE asked me to go into churches and ask Sunday School Teachers and Preachers this question:
“Do you teach The HOLY Days or the holidays?”
Then HE told me that the teachers and preachers will not be Taken Up and they fall into Hell.” This includes congregations, for not knowing THE HOLY WORD, HE was THE HOLY WORD before HE became flesh to dwell among men. Jeremiah chapter 10 we are commanded to not learn the ways of the nations (holidays) and we are commanded to not have a Christmas Tree.
Isaiah chapter 14 CREATOR YHVH YAH established Christmas as Satan’s holiday.
Christmas was banned in America when people obeyed THE HOLY WORD.
HE rose from death on THE FATHER CREATOR YHVH YAH’s established Feast of First Fruits.
HE said “Cross is corrupt.”
The scriptures tells MESSIAH JESUS EMMANU-EL will be hung on a tree and that is pure truth. Not a cross.
People must not edit THE FATHER CREATOR YAH’s whole HOLY WORD religion into their own religion.
JESUS YESHUA obeyed all commandments not just 10, so we must also obey all commandments not just 10 just as JESUS YESHUA did. HE Took the place of ONLY ONE commandment, Burnt Offerings. THE WORTHY LAMB for a goat, blood for blood, skin for skin.
Easter is her evil rituals in her evil religion she named after herself Easter, Her god is Molech. We must obey THE WHOLE HOLY WORD to be in THE FATHER YAH’s religion, not edit HIS religion. HE doesn’t ask us please when HE commands us to observe and keep The commanded Biblical HOLY Days !!!
It’s what was first practiced- read the Didache. Bring the rest of the world into the family
The “spirit” is to lead Israel, ISRAEL, back to Torah. The two houses become one. The house of Israel and the House of Judah. This is a covenant made with ISRAEL. If gentiles aren’t following Torah, as written by Moshe, then they aren’t in covenant. The new covenant is a promise that YHVH will write His Torah on Israel’s heart. This hasn’t happened, yet. The two houses haven’t become one, they are still is the diaspora, and Israel is still sinning.
Judah is of the house of Israel and merely separated by sin and failure to accept Jesus as the Christ (messiah, anointed one).
@@davidsinclair47 Nope. The “House of Judah” is the southern kingdom. They are the Jews (their capital is Jerusalem.) The “House of Israel” is the northern kingdom (their capital is Samaria.) They are known as the “ten lost tribes” of the House of Israel. In the 700’s BCE, the House of Israel fell into Idolatry so bad; and in God’s judgment, He sent the Assyrians to capture them and take them into exile. These were only the northern 10 tribes. Eventually, Judah rebelled as well, and God sent the Babylonians to capture the Jews in the 500’s BCE. In God’s mercy, He sent many, many prophets to warn both kingdoms of impending wrath if they didn’t turn back to God’s covenant and His Torah. In God’s mercy, He gave them the opportunity to repent and return back home. The Jews did repent and they were able to return. However, the house of Israel never repented. They assimilated into the nations. They became Gentiles. They forgot their roots. They forgot the covenant. But the Torah itself has a promise of restoration and for the unity of Israel as a whole. But this can only happen if the descendants of Israel repent and return to the covenant. God says over and over to circumcise the heart and obey His commandments. The purpose of messiah is to find the lost sheep of the house of Israel, teach them to obey God’s commandments, and gather in all of the exiles back to the Primised Land. The covenant has always been open to gentiles. God not only took the United Kingdom of Israel out of Egypt, He also took a “mixed multitude.” As Moses presented the covenant, ALL of the people agreed to it. The gentiles were grafted into Israel. But God has ONE covenant. He has the SAME Torah for the native born and the convert. It’s the constitution of which the world will be governed. “His Torah will go forth from Zion.” Everything will return to its former glory. Even the land will be healed. The land is vitally important. God Himself will circumcise the heart of Israel who rebelled and assimilated into the gentiles. He will turn their heart of stone into a heart of flesh so that they will desire to do His will. This is the NEW covenant. The two kingdoms will become one again.
Unfortunately, Gentiles can’t even recognize that their messiah is a Jew. If He taught any new way of being justified or if he redefined the definition of “righteousness” or if he taught that we no longer needed to obey the commandments, well, he missed his purpose. The Bible defines this as “counseling rebellion” against God and His covenant. It’s a crime worthy of the death sentence. Did Jesus teach against the commandments? Did he counsel rebellion against his Father? Did he teach that he was God? Or did he teach that he and his father are one, like you and I should be one? Did he teach that he came to abolish the law? Did he teach that those who follow a NEW Law, or who trample on the Covenant, will be great in the kingdom? Was he a criminal? Did he teach that he’s the only righteous one and that we would never be able to be righteous enough to please God so why bother trying? Did he teach that men should no longer be circumcised? Did he teach that the Sabbath is no longer a sign between God and His people? Did he teach that he was going to arise from the dead and that would mean that we no longer needed to rest on the seventh day? However, Jesus did speak in parables. This is a Hebrew way. He warned that after he was gone, his testimony would be twisted. He warned about false teachers. The Torah itself warns against false prophets and those who teach to worship new deities, to fear new deities, to obey new commandments, and who teach to disregard the covenant given by Moses. These are all crimes, and it defines SIN. Obedience to Torah defines righteousness. Was Jesus the king of righteousness? Or did he teach us to rebel? The false teacher is the church. The false teacher is Paul, persecutor of the earliest followers of Jesus. Paul taught that the commandments are a ministry of death engraved in stone. He was an evil evil man who was the antichrist. For the most part, Jesus taught to obey his commandments, and if he was a Jew, Gentiles should know which commandments he was talking about. Jesus taught to repent. Well, repent from what? Repent from rebellion against Torah. He said I only came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel. The house of Israel or the Gentiles don’t know the Torah and don’t know the commandments. The Jews need to teach the Gentiles the Commandments. Jesus is disciples were Jews. It’s their job to be a light to the nations. The nations or the Gentiles. It’s their job to suffer for righteousness sake. Through the suffering of righteous Israel, the nations can be healed. Friend, if you’re teaching against God’s Torah, then you’re teaching against Jesus and the purpose of messiah. The Messiah‘s job is to restore Israel. His job is NOT to atone for your sins. He can’t atone for your sins. The Torah explicitly says what we can do to atone for our sins, and this is forever binding. The righteousness of somebody cannot rub off on somebody else. We’re all responsible for our own sins. The only way to be forgiven is to TESHUVAH, repent and return to the Commandments. If you’re a gentile and you want to join Israel, God invites you to do this. You can be grafted into Israel through your own love for God, and our love for him is defined by our obedience. We are “justified by our WORKS and not by faith alone.” James probably died defending Torah and fighting the evil works of Paul who taught “faith alone” and “belief in Jesus’s righteousness” and “NOT the letter of the Law.” Over and over the NT records the disputes of Paul and Jesus’ apostles. Paul wasn’t one of the twelve. He wasn’t chosen. He’s a liar and he’s the teacher who spoke rebellion against the commandments and rebellion against the way of Jesus. If Jesus was a Jew, the world knows which commandments he followed. The Torah teaches that it issss possible to be righteous. Obedience defines love. “If you love me, obey my commandments.” Scripture says that it’s “not too difficult” to obey Torah. Although the Messiah‘s job is to restore both kingdoms of Israel, The Messiah’s job is primarily to reach the Gentiles who are the assimilated House of Israel. He taught to be light to the nations. The nations are the gentiles. Worshipping Jesus, or Yeshua, as if he’s God is a SIN. “There is only one good”, and it’s not Jesus, says Jesus himself. The NT is full of mixed seed, tares and wheat, canonized by gentiles who piggybacked onto the Hebrew Bible and who made their own messiah out to be a sinner through their own writings. God said He’d TEST His children to know who has His Torah written on their hearts and who obeys Deuteronomy 4:2 & 12:32…teaching rebellion against Moses and adding or taking away from what Moses wrote. The NT documents Paul teaching against Moses and circumcision, but Paul denies the charges. What’s your opinion? Did Paul teach us to obey Torah? Or was he the Antichrist who…to a Jew was a Jew and to a Gentile was a gentile. He was a two-faced liar who was always in trouble with the Jews, and his words drown out Jesus and are full of “tares and wheat” and confusion.
@@AbrahamsBridges Paul was never against the Law my friend, he just points out that some Christian’s are weaker and won’t live up to the law in Christ. That’s just a fact so let’s not blame Paul and understand some Christian’s will stay baby Christian’s for their entire life or not even be considered Christian’s according to the Bible.
@@elielsreaction4892 There is NO Law in Christ. There’s one Torah. The messiah can’t add to, take away from, nor make the Torah more challenging. Jesus was a rabbi. He gave His own opinion on HOW to follow the Torah. Paul did, in fact, counsel rebellion against YHWH. He venerated and gave glory to Jesus, and taught others to worship Jesus. This is called idolatry. YHWH says that He will not share his glory with another. Paul didn’t have his closest disciples circumcised. If a male isn’t circumcised, he can’t participate in Passover. Paul allowed people to eat meat sacrificed to idols. Paul said not to let people judge you on which day you keep. Paul said that the Law is a “ministry of death engraved in stones” and it’s fading away. If Jesus was king, he’d be required to fear YHWH, and he’d be required to write a physical copy of the Torah in the presence of the Levites. The Torah is everlasting. It’s physically written and is supposed to be written on the hearts of Israel. Paul never met Jesus while Jesus was alive on the earth, yet, Paul claimed to have had a vision of Jesus. But why didn’t Paul teach what Jesus taught? Jesus’ teachings weren’t always accurate, but Jesus kept Torah far better than Paul. If Paul taught the Law, it’d be clear. Paul was a Hellenistic Jew who caused problems in the early church, and who James had to refute on more than one occasion. His teachings have done nothing but lead generation after generation in rebellion against YHWH and even rebellion against Jesus.
@@AbrahamsBridges yeah no you’re on a whole other thing. To deny Jesus as the Messiah is to deny Hashem.
type in rabbi tovia singer to know the truth.
Jesus Christos is the Son of the living Adonia Eloheiom 13733717....❤
Pr. 8--I do not see the Spirit of wisdom there as a Person other than God as you seem to suggest.
Here's anther "type". When Moses interceded for the Jews after God judged them with the "fiery serpents" God instructed Moses to make a BRASS SERPENT ON A POLE AND PLACE IT ON A HILL. The Lord revealed to me the true meaning of the Brass Serpent. The Brass Serpent (that hurt no one and looked like the fiery serpents that were killing them) was on a pole on a hill and all who looked upon it were healed. Likewise, Jesus in the form of sinful flesh committed no sin and was crucified up on a cross placed on a hill and all who look to Christ will be saved from the curse of sin! God showed me how the Brass Serpent on a pole on a hill represented Christ on a tree on a hill. These are the kinds of connections made between the old and new. There is a plethora of references to Jesus throughout the Old Testament that you will also see confirmed in the book of Revelation. The Bible is amazing!
Jesus Christos is the Son of the living Adonia Eloheiom 13733717....
To me the Church changes everything . To me a name has a meaning it was Yeshua, not Jesus He died as the king of the Jews. We want All the blessings of the Jews as The people that was given the Torah, but we want to take as Christians or gentiles what we want or is convenient. To me there is no Messianic Christian We are disciples of Yeshua, followers if Him. He did not come to make a religion, He came to bring us His children to Hashem Yave the Creator. Man, is the one that bring religions ,cults denominations,. Man was responsible,Not Yeshua. I was born in Puerto Rico, raised in New York..I can pretend to be Jews! I love the Torah, I love the nation of Israel , is a blessed nation, they know their history, they culture, they live what they believe They are a Nation that God gave the Law. All nations hate Israel. People hate them but they don't know it live there. To Abraham God gave and make a covenant with him.. Ismael is the first seed of Abraham , but Isaac was the one that God gave to Abraham Jesus, to the gentiles those following Christianity are the want that created the different religions .not Yeshua . But in every discussion all mediators forget to mentions the adversary the want that is behind all this division, confusions, wars and hate and ignorance...that my humble opinion...
Messianic Judaism is Hebraic Evengelical Christianity. The original, authentic 1st century Yeshua movement was known as Netzarim. They were led by James as first Paqid and ended with 15th and last Paqid in 135 ce. That was the official end date. Splinter groups and Romanized Christianity don't count as Netzarim. Rabban Gamaliel's statement that if the Yeshua movement came to nothing then it was not from the Lord came true then. So Yeshua is just like those other false leaders mentioned in the 5th chapter of Acts.
I HAVE GOTTEN PORK PARASITES IN THE PAST...I WILL NEVER EAT PORK. 🤮🤢🤮
This 'rabbi' "came to know the lord Yeshua." This means that he believes that Jesus was God in the flesh who supposedly died for our sins. To all non-Jews reading this, this means that the man with the hat is _not Jewish_ and can hence not be a rabbi as well. What's worse, he lies to us and to God.
The most blasphemous assault to Yahshuas teachings is the Trinity.
Do messianic Jews believe in Trinity?
The pig thing tells me that you do believe in false Trinity.
The Greek canon says that they ate leavened bread at the Passover. Some debate what meal this was because the gospel accounts contradict each other. Matthew, Mark, and Luke all state that this is the first day of unleavened bread, which is the Passover Seder. John is the only gospel that says Yeshua was crucified on Passover. Eating leavened bread is forbidden in Torah. Eating leavened bread at the Passover meal is a sin.
Y’all worship a human being. That’s pagan.
So-called Messianic “Judaism” is not Judaism, it’s just Protestantism dressed up as Judaism.
Yes, Yeshua was Jewish. In more than one occasion, He gave higher authority to “oral” Torah vs. “written” Torah. The NT is full of teachings from Torah, both written and oral. We have no writings from Yeshua. All we have are quotes from others that were canonized by pagans hundreds of years later. The earliest followers of Yeshua were destroyed. They were Jews who didn’t believe in the virgin birth, they didn’t believe in the Trinity doctrine, and they said Paul was false. Did Yeshua himself believe that He was God? If so, this is blasphemy. However, I don’t personally believe He thought he was God. Torah forbids us to worship the image of a man, or any other created being, because scripture says that YHVH has no form. Moses Speaking “face to face” with God is called biblical poetry. God said You saw “NO FORM” on the mountain. Jews reject the NT because Yeshua isn’t God. Jews reject the NT because it calls the coMmandments a curse. Jews reject the NT because the Passover lamb isn’t a “sin” sacrifice; It’s a memorial. YHVH is One, not three in one. Scripture says that ISRAEL is God’s firstborn son; and if Yeshua is a Jew, he’s a son of God, just like the rest of Israel. The covenant has always been open to gentiles, just like Caleb and Ruth and the “mixed multitude” who came out in the exodus with the Israelites. God shows no partiality. If you want to be a son of God, you’ve got to love Him by obeying His commandments. Paul calls the commandments “a ministry of death engraved in stones”. He said they are fading away. What hateful, hateful speech to trample on the word of God! Paul is accused on more than one occasion of trying to turn God’s children against His commandments. He nominated himself as apostle, but Yeshua didn’t choose Him. Yeshua never even met Paul. Paul wasn’t one of the twelve. James knew the truth of Paul. Paul said that we aren’t justified by the letter of the law. How false! James said we are justified by our works and not by faith alone. Paul always had issues with Yeshua’s chosen ones. Why is half the cannon written by Paul? Why do Pauls words drown out Yeshua’s? Yeshua taught “if you want to inherit life, obey the commandments” Yeshua taught repentance and return to the commandments; This is the same message of Torah and the prophets of Tanakh. The false teacher said, “without the shedding of blood there can be no forgiveness.” What a lie! This verse was totally twisted and vandalized from Torah. According to Torah and Tanakh, No blood is needed for forgiveness of sins. But if Christians don’t circumcise their hearts and study to obey God’s instructions, they’ll never know the truth. Paul is the creator or Christianity, not Yeshua. Yeshua was a Jew. He warned that after he was gone, false teachers would twist his words. He spoke about “tares and wheat.” Christians can’t tell the tares from the wheat because they’ve never eaten the bread of life. They don’t even follow their own messiah. The messiah is a tool of God; he’s not God. Worshipping the messiah as God is called idolatry. The messiah is prophesied to fear God, not to be God. God isn’t a man. Yeshua said “why do you call me good, there is only one good”. God said His commandments are forever, throughout your generations, and as long as you live on the earth. He calls it “counseling rebellion” against Him when so-called prophets lead Israel to fear and obey anything other that what was given by Moses. The sacrifices of God are a broken and contrite heart.
Beautifully written🙂
By the way you have so many points on your comment I can see how the brit hadasha contradicts itself so much the rabbi was right thank you for this comment
@@vicsmith7006Yeah, if you're uneducated.
@@azulcielo278Or, you can listen to Dr. Baruch Korman. A Jew who knows how to interpret the TANAKH and Brit Chadasha correctly instead of following an uneducated rant.
I tend to agree with you. Is there a movement that believes this way?
It is called christianity. The most deceptive of chrustian denominations. Stop being deceptive. It is not G-dly
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Lmaoo "Messianic Jew" believes Jesus is the saviour and Messiah😂 shame on the people who preach this false propaganda, you're not G-d but you want to be.
7:57: This is something I've never known... It's awesome.